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That just was not part of the motion that changed so I was just trying to clarify. It would be up to you all I mean if you decided not to approve it at all I mean that would be your option but if you wanted to have it for a lesser term that would be. I don't know I think we were going to as I think about it I you know when the request for proposal originally went out I think it went out for three years and I know Mr. Mark is not in today but we can get you that answer before Thursday night for you read it. That'd be great thank you. So if it's okay I'll leave the motion as is if we need to revise that by Thursday I'll do so or you can do so at that time. Sounds good thank you. Any further discussion? Councilmember Martin. Thank you mayor I had an additional thought after the conversation last week about this. One of the issues I don't know perhaps Commissioner Askew can help us on this but I guess one of the additional reasons for having additional multi-year contract is so you don't have to incur the expense of bidding it every year and I don't Commissioner is that a very you know how much we we spend to bid this each year? I think that and the most important thing to me is that we confirm that we had the 30-day out because it doesn't the multi-year doesn't work for me if it doesn't have the out. It does it's my understanding it does have the out and we will confirm that before Thursday night and I will check with Mr. Mark about the multi-year as well. You're correct if we didn't have to go back but we haven't done this before so yeah if we were to bid it back out we would. Thank you mayor. Go through that process again. Any further discussion? Councilmember Beard. Logan. Yes sir. The concern I have with shortening the term the contract is that you're going to have on some of the major situations that you might be dealing with over a span of time two different eyes on the same case and maybe different philosophies embedded in both of their heads and some inconsistencies then might crop up about how a review was handled with reviewer A it might be different than reviewer B might approach it is that a concern at all of yours? I think it is that's a very legitimate question that you raise and and I think that is certainly a possibility I'd really like to get Mr. Markham's take on it since he deals with this all the time and he helped put this together because I don't think it's that uncommon to have contracts that exceed more than one year as I understand and as long as we do have some provision that would allow us to get out from under that contract if it was not being performed properly or to our satisfaction but I'll get you that information before Thursday. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Council Member Crosby. Yeah, Bill, just the last thing I was gonna ask that you bring also is how many of these as I recall it wasn't that common either that we would be in a situation where we would need to have bills reviewed so maybe if we could find out to how many of those. Sure, I'd be happy to do that. That would be great. Thank you. Anything further? Those in favor then of restoring that item to the docket for Thursday evening's meeting please indicate by saying aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Thank you, Mayor. The next item was exit interviews. Council Member Myers brought this issue to committee. There was some wonderful research that was included in our packet by Paul Schoeniger, our staff to council. He reviewed other cities, reviewed how the private sector and other human resource policies on exit interviews. Council Member Myers discussed to us that his intention of bringing this item forward was to review for exit interviews for employees that leave on their own. So that way we're realizing that it's a choice that that person is making and so we want to try to track their choice and why is it they would be choosing to leave their government job and what is it about their new job that they prefer over their government job. Leslie Jarvis was present representing the Human Resources Department, our division. She said that there were two divisions currently using the practice, only two in our government right now. There was a program that existed but it hadn't been implemented yet that would have a component of exit interviews as part of that program and that would include face-to-face as well as electronic surveys. Council Member Myers said he was very interested in this. He wanted to see memos to commissioners and a copy to directors to ask about if they were doing any existing exit interview processes to get the feedback. Council Member Myers also asked Ms. Jarvis to send a copy of the exit interview template to the staff to council so that we would have that for our review. We had some discussion about what would the intention be of the exit interviews. We talked about a requirement of an exit interview as part of a hiring process. So we vetted those things back and forth and in the end we formed a work group consisting of three members of the committee and they will work to further research and develop a process of the exit interviews. Any questions on that? So we'll have something to report out. There are three members of that group. Council Member Myers, Council Member Henson and Council Member Beard have all agreed to be a part of that committee so we appreciate that. You have a comment on that? Thank you for the report out. I'd like to add one thing in there that we found out from Mr. Shoniger's research that it takes an average of 29 to 46 percent of the salary of the person who left the job to replace them every time somebody leaves. So that's another reason why we need to get this done and figure out how we can keep some of these folks on board instead of leaving. Thank you. The last item we talked about came about, I believe, during the discussion of restructuring and streamlining the council work session process and there were items that referred to purchasing, procurement, and professional services and from that Council Member Crosby placed several of those items into intergov for discussion. There were about 40 pages of data and Council Member Crosby made a great suggestion, I believe, of having a work group to drill down on the specifics of what the concerns were. So as of right now we have two members of that group and that's Council Member Crosby and Council Member Lawless and I'm looking for a third person to work on that work group and then once they work they'll come back to intergov and we'll drill down a little bit on what those, what the concerns are with the purchasing, procurement, and professional services aspect. We just really weren't too sure where to go with 40 pages of information without a substantial amount of time to drill down on that. Are there any questions on that? And I've got Council Member Ellinger agreeing to be the third, so thank you very much. That's all I have, Mayor, and just for anyone that's anxiously awaiting the next intergov meeting, we're not going to be meeting again until June due to some other scheduling things happening in May so stay tuned for June for any updates on the existing intergov items. Thanks. Any final questions on the Intergovernmental Committee report? All right, we're ready then for Council reports. If you wish to make a report please indicate. Council Member Beard. Thank you, Mayor. I would like to move approval of the NDF list for this week. I have a motion by Council Member Beard and a second by Council Member Myers to approve the NDF. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Thank you, Mayor. Council Member Martin. Thank you, Mayor. The Firebrook Association meets tonight at 7 p.m. at the Firebrook Clubhouse and so residents are entitled to and encouraged to join. The YMCA of the Bluegrass is holding its annual Healthy Kids Day Fun Fest this Sunday, April 25th from 2 to 5 p.m. at the University of Kentucky Nutter Fieldhouse next to Commonwealth Stadium. The event is free and promotes fun physical activity for the whole family, provides families with tools and resources to help them adopt and maintain healthy lifestyles year-round. I had just a wonderful time attending the Lafayette High School Echo Concert with Commissioner Taylor and we got to address the crowd and talk about environmental issues and arts funding issues and it was really a lovely evening for concerts. The Lafayette High School Orchestra was there and about six or eight other feeder orchestras from the middle schools and elementary schools and it was just a delightful event and lots of booths were on hand from folks like the, well my brain has shut down, but a lot of a lot of fun folks on him like, goodness I can't think of it, that's TV for you. So anyway, but there's some great folks to talk about their environmental projects and to talk about what folks can do to make Lexington a more environmentally friendly place and obviously the Wolf Run Creek folks were there, so thanks for everybody. Appreciate it, Mayor. Thanks. Council Member McCord. Thank you, Mayor. Just a couple things. One is tomorrow is United Way Day at Keeneland and so proceeds from general mission will will go to the United Way, so certainly want to encourage everyone to to come and support the United Way at Keeneland. And also the other night on the CMA Awards, the group Montgomery Gentry, Eddie Montgomery and Troy Gentry who are from this area, they won the Humanitarian Award and as part of that Home Depot basically funds and promotes a playground build in whatever city that that they choose, that the winner chooses. And the the choices this year are between Atlanta, Georgia, Orlando, Florida, Denver, Colorado, Toledo, Ohio, Los Angeles, California, Lexington, Kentucky. And whoever gets the most votes wins and presently we are up right now in Lexington, Kentucky. But I've sent an email and asked Rama to put this maybe on our homepage and would encourage folks to to go and to vote for Lexington, Kentucky. This is through the group Kaboom that does one-day builds for playgrounds and it would be a wonderful opportunity for for these folks to be to be honored in close to their hometown. So certainly would encourage folks to to go and vote for Montgomery Gentry's playground to be built in Lexington, Kentucky and certainly am very proud of all those folks who come out of this area and are doing well at many levels. Thank you, Mayor. Council Member Crosby. Thank you, Mayor. I first have a couple thank-yous. I want to thank Keith Levin from Engineering and Bill Sally from Planning. They have been busy in the 7th District attending meetings so I really appreciate their help. They've taken their personal time in the evenings to come out to this and I just want to tell them how much I appreciate everything they do to help us out. Also I wanted to announce that the budget links for the Division of Water Quality and Public Works will start this Friday. We've got the conference room and I believe everybody has all the information as to when they're supposed to be there so hopefully we can get started on this process. And then lastly I just wanted to congratulate our Kitty Capers dance program through Parks and Rec. This past weekend they had several dance teams as well as some individual dancers competing in a competition in Louisville, Kentucky and all teams and individual dancers I believe took home high gold honors which is a very difficult thing to achieve, it's my understanding. And the dance groups that also performed won overall in their age divisions so I think that speaks very highly of our Parks and Rec. program through Kitty Capers. There's also two teams who will be competing against teams throughout Central Kentucky and Ohio this weekend and we wish them luck too and hopefully next week I'll be able to report how great they did as well. Thank you. Council Member Blues. Thank you Mayor. First some meeting announcements tonight at 7 p.m. the Historic Western Suburb Neighborhood Association Board will meet at 645 West Short Street. Then next Monday April 26th at 7 p.m. the following meetings. Oakwood Neighborhood Association will hold its monthly meeting in the community center in Oakwood Park. Radcliffe Marlboro Neighborhood Association will meet in the community center in Marlboro Park and the McConnell's Trace Greenway Committee will be meeting at 7 p.m. at Harmony House and I'll be cloning myself I guess that evening. Another announcement and one appropriate to Earth Week, Columbia Gas of Kentucky has introduced a program called Warm Wise, a series of residential energy efficient programs designed to help its customers identify places where their homes may be losing energy and to provide solutions for improvements and savings. There will be three aspects of this of this program. First of all a low-income furnace replacement program. Columbia Gas customers can call 800-244-2275 to find out if they are eligible for the free furnace replacement. That's 244-2275 that's an 800 number. Second a home energy audit program and to request that audit call 800-300-8709, 300-8709. And finally a natural gas appliance rebate program which will be later available this summer, which will be available later this summer and there will be further information on that forthcoming. Thank You Mayor that's my report. Thanks. Councilmember Hinson. Thank You Mayor. I just want to remind everyone that the Commission for Citizens with Disabilities is sponsoring the Disability Expo at the Lexington Center in the thoroughbred room on Thursday, this Thursday from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. and there'll be lots of vendors there that provide services and all types of things for individuals with disabilities. I think there'll be some artwork and anything you could probably think of. They do a very good job organizing this but I invite you to come down if you have time. Thank You. Councilmember Myers. Thank You Mayor. I just got a little bit of, excuse me, internal housekeeping. Now that the Citizens Advocate position is vacant I was wondering when the Vice Mayor was going to get together to start that process for filling it. And then also in the interim I know that Ms. King, the last time the position was vacant served as acting for two years without any increase in pay. I want to make sure that doesn't happen this time around. So could you kind of speak to where we're at on that? I'm sorry, Paula Campbell, I'm sorry. Paula Campbell, yes. Maureen was, I just talked, spoke with Maureen today and actually had a meeting with Paula. And she will be getting with the, Maureen's going to be scheduling a meeting of the Citizens Advocate workgroup, which I believe you're on George, just for that purpose. Thank you sir. Thank you. Councilmember Lawless. Thank you. I have several announcements. The Goodrich Neighborhood Association will meet this Thursday, April 22nd from 7 to 9 p.m. at the lot located at the end of Goodrich. I want to encourage everyone to go visit the new Fifth Third Pavilion located in Cheapside Park. The farmers market is now located there and hope everybody will be there on Saturdays to support them and see the improvements going on down there. The Elizabeth Street Neighborhood Association generally meets on this Tuesday night and, but tonight the meeting has been canceled. They will not be meeting. Also, it was a really wonderful and busy weekend. Oh, and there's one more. At 7 p.m. tonight, the Hollywood Mount Vernon Neighborhood Association will be meeting at Ashland Terrace, 475 South Ashland Avenue. It was an exciting weekend here in Lexington. Starting with this past Thursday night, the opening at Gallery 193, which is on Limestone, kind of across from Serre Avenue. A wonderful local artist, Bob Morgan, who got one of the Echo Art grants. So, thank you to Commissioner Taylor and the mayor and the administration for making that possible. I went and it was an extraordinary exhibit, so it's still going. I encourage people to drop by there and see that. The UnConference, which was all day Saturday as a follow-up from the Creative City Summit, was very interesting and well attended. There were several fusion groups doing projects around the 3rd District and I want to thank them. That's the UK Student Fusion Group and I do believe that's all. Thank you. Thanks, Councilmember Feigl. Thank you, Mayor. I forgot one thing. As many of you know, the city handles a lot of flooding issues in our community and one of the things they do when they have a home that's flooding is to do an assessment on whether it's more cost-effective to actually buy the home or to try to mitigate the flooding. And in our discussion today in the Water Resources Oversight Committee, I learned that in that assessment that they do, there is no consideration for the long-term maintenance costs associated with purchasing that property or taking responsibility for that property. And that certainly has been a problem for us. We do have a lot of vacant lots out there where we have purchased the homes that we are now having to mow and maintain and it's pretty costly. So I would like to place this issue into the Planning Committee for us to discuss how we might go about including this element or this cost element in that assessment process. I'll entertain that as a motion to refer that, did you say the Planning Committee? Planning Committee. Okay. And I have a second from Councilmember Ellinger. Any discussion? Councilmember Stennett. Councilmember Feigl, can you reiterate what you're trying to do? Because I think we've already tackled this issue in the Water Resources Oversight Committee. Well, when I spoke, when we were talking about it this morning in Water Resources, I asked Daryl if there was, he said it had never been done in the past, where they had included an assessment of the the long-term maintenance costs. And I said, well, is there anything that would make you do that now? And he said no. So if we need to add something to our policies, then I think that's something, some action that we need to take. Otherwise, they have no impetus for changing the way they do business. Well, I think this morning, though, in the Water, we had a proposal before us that we all endorsed that would change that. Indeed, the Vice Mayor brought it up, I know Councilmember Blues alluded to it, that before we buy a home and tear it down and leave an open eyesore in a neighborhood, we look at a different alternative method before we go down that path. And that's what Charlie Martin alluded to this morning, is that we'll look at a different way. That's why doing the assessment for the entire city is very important on the drainage basins versus individual properties. Okay, I still don't think that that's addressing my concern. My concern is when they purchase a home and they do the the appraisal on how much that home is worth, there is no, and then they use this appraisal to determine whether or not it's more cost-effective to to fix the problem or just purchase the home outright. And there is no consideration for the long-term maintenance figured into the cost of purchasing that property. And that's what I allude to. We're going to do an RFP for an assessment of all of our stormwater projects to see if that is still a feasible way of conducting stormwater mitigation control, is tearing down a home and putting those costs in there. Until we have the total assessment and what tools are in our tool bet, then we'll look at what tools are available to do that. I think it's a little bit premature until we reevaluate all of our stormwater projects. That's what we're currently underway and about to do. Okay, I will withdraw my motion then until we can maybe discuss it a little bit more. I do think that discussion has to happen. It's just until we get this assessment done, you know, you may be doing a lot of work too early, so to speak. Okay, well then I'll withdraw my motion and until we get a better handle on it. Okay. Thank you. Council Member Stennett. Thank you, Mayor. I just have one brief announcement. The Elkhorn Park neighborhood will have their annual neighborhood meeting tonight at the new Northside Library branch at 7 p.m. Thank you, Mayor. Thanks. Council Member Martin. Thank you, Mayor. I overlooked announcing that the Lexington Children's Museum, Children's Theater Celebrity Curtain Call Goes Wicked will be this Saturday night, Saturday, April 24th at 630 p.m. at the Lexington Children's Theater. This is just a wonderful group of folks. This is a fundraiser for the Children's Theater. There are going to be some terrific actors and local community actors involved. I think the mayor is involved, and I think I'm involved, and other local individuals. Council Member Stennett, are you involved in this? Indeed, I am St. Peter, so I decide who gets into heaven and who doesn't. Apparently I'm the evil captain. I have to learn my lines. But please come out. This is a great fundraiser for the Children's Theater. The Children's Theater is just rocking and rolling this year. They are really firing on all cylinders, and it's a great way to come out and have a good laugh at the expense of some of your public officials. And I encourage you to come on down and join us Saturday night. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member Ellinger. Thank you, Mayor. I attended on Saturday the What's Next that was held out at Carnegie Center, and it was a follow-up from the week before from the Creative Cities. And it was a great opportunity. A lot of people turned out. And one of the different groups that I attended was talking about the CVS, and actually Mr. Hullaback was the one that was moderating. And I asked him actually if he would come down here, because one of the issues we talked about in planning today that was brought up, and we're actually going to have a special planning meeting on May 27th at 3 o'clock to look at this, was the design guidelines and also the form-based guidelines. But I asked Phil if he would come down here and just give us a little update of what happened at that, because when we're looking at CVS and our downtown and that area, I think it's important that we have guidelines to make sure that we protect our downtown. So I asked Phil, and he ran over here, and I think he came here within about 30 seconds of when I pushed the button. So Phil, if you would, just kind of give us a little update of what happened there at the what's next. You have about three, four minutes. My name is Phil Hullaback. I think first and foremost, thanks to so many of you for not just your support, but actually attendance at Creative Cities Summit. I saw so many of you there for a long period of time. I really, really appreciate it. It's been a great support. Coming out of that was the unconference, what's next Lexington, or what now Lexington. And really, the goal was I didn't want to put on a summit that was more talking. I wanted to have some actions come out of that. And so I've got about eight different things that I'm sure my wife is not happy I'm working on. But one of the presentations was on design guidelines or form-based guidelines. I just talked about the CVS as a case study of what can happen. And so a CVS is a very good thing for downtown. Surface parking in and of itself is not a bad thing for downtown. One story is in and of itself not a bad thing for downtown. I had my kids in Chicago on Michigan Avenue. We walked three blocks and went to a one-story restaurant. Even downtown Chicago has one-story buildings. So those things aren't bad in and of themselves. Main and Rose has surface parking. Main and Rose is an award-winning building, not just locally, but with some regional awards as well. Doing all of those things properly is what we want. We don't want all one-story buildings, but it's okay to have one story. It's okay to have surface parking. It's okay to have drive-throughs, if done right. You know, we proposed a larger mixed-use project for this block. It didn't work out for reasons that I fully understand. The city wasn't in a financial position, I don't think, to support a parking garage, and I get that and I understand that. I know that a 10 to 12 million dollar garage may not be more important than putting police on the street or than streetscape or than all the other capital improvement projects that need to be bonded. I will say I think we're making progress as a downtown. This downtown master plan versus the prior one is a big step forward. The prior master plan said, let's bring some more churches downtown. That'll really get downtown rolling. So we're making incremental progress. I'd encourage us as a community, not just administration or council or government, to look at things really holistically. The current master plan said we need a parking authority. One of the things the parking authority is working on is saying, these are hypothetical numbers, hey, over the next 17 years we need four parking garages. That's great. We may not know where those parking garages could end up, but knowing that in advance would allow a council to have on their five-year capital improvement project, we need a parking garage at some point in the future. It would allow this body to be proactive as opposed to having to react when someone like me comes and says, you know, we need a parking garage and making those subjective determinations over what's more important. Because of the decision that I understand and respect, we gave back much of the land that we controlled on that block, and on a smaller subset of that block, our land owners, and we're doing a land lease with the CVS. I don't get to be the developer on the way these things work. I'm simply a minority partner that owns the land. They hire their own master developer. A CVS is good for downtown. What we as a community want to do, however, is make sure that that building, A, looks as good as it possibly can, and B, works with the way that the rest of that block potentially can be developed. So we've specifically tried to cite that at a specific spot on the block so that if the rest of the block is developed as a master plan mixed-use project, this will work well with it. Your time's about to expire. So thank you guys. Thank you, Phil, for coming down. Is there anybody have any questions for him? I just want him to kind of give a little update of what happened at what's next summit, and thank you. All right. Councilmember Martin. I just want a brief follow-up with that because I was in Louisville. I was practicing law in Louisville in 1989 when they did a comprehensive downtown study of Louisville, and one of the things they found is that the convention center, because it was bonded, didn't have any retail and turned a blind eye to the to the street, and so it was completely un-interactive with the people who came through there. There was no walkability, and so what you want to make sure with our form-based guidelines is the planning committee, which I watched a lot of, does its progress and work, but also on buildings like this is that it be able to interact with the environment and with the people going through there, and that we get a building that that doesn't have four sides or three sides that is dead to the street, but it kind of enjoys and celebrates the people who walk by it. So I think we have a, that was 1989, so we are way behind, so we have a lot of work to do. Thanks, Phil. All right. Councilmember McCord. Just a couple things. One is, you know, it's very easy to sit on the sidelines and say, well, you shouldn't do this, or I would have done this, and folks really have no idea what all, you know, goes into a situation like this, and it was mentioned in the planning committee earlier that that piece of property has some very unique challenges, all of which, you know, certainly your group has worked within, and not only anybody's more conscientious about downtown and doing more for downtown and putting the money where their mouth is than you and your wife and your partners. One of the interesting things, you mentioned earlier, Phil, that a CVS isn't bad for downtown is, you know, is a one-story building or so forth. It depends on how you do that. You know, we watched urban renewal, basically whitewash downtowns, and we had rules and laws that came through that said basically you couldn't have any sign protruding from a, from downtown. So what we have, we had Maine and Vine, where you just blow through town, you can't even see what's where. So you have extreme examples where people say, well, we need to do this because these things, these bad things might happen, and then you go to the other extreme, and you, well, you know, let's leave it up to kind of creativity, and you may get some things that you don't want there, too. So it's a very difficult balancing act. One of the things that happened at the Creative City Summit that I think is very interesting as it relates to the CVS and anybody out there that's watching that says, oh, well, that shouldn't even be there, or that type of business, is Mike Leighton, who is the gentleman that you all brought in from New York City that is the guru of city planning and pedestrian mobility, did a bike tour of Lexington. Got on his bike and just rode around the St. Louis campus and out Richmond Road and so forth. All he was looking for was some shaving cream and a razor because he had forgotten it. Couldn't find it anywhere. He said it's a travesty when you go in somebody's downtown, and you can't find a razor or some shaving cream. So, again, you know, people can say all day long, an armchair quarterback, and say, well, you shouldn't do that, and it shouldn't go there. But a lot of those folks don't really have any solutions that they're bringing to the table, and I think that it is good that we bring some of these amenities in. The trick is, is how do you balance that between the extremes that we've seen over the last few years? So I appreciate you coming down to kind of explain a little bit behind it from your end. All right. Council Member Gordon. Thank you, Mayor. Phil, thanks for being here. I know that one of the activities we did at one of the sessions at the Creative City Summit was we broke into small groups, and each group had the plan of the parking lot, which is on High Street across from Rupp Arena, and each group more or less designed the parking lot. It was very interesting. Some of them included a new Rupp Arena, and some didn't, and but it was a great exercise in seeing all of the different types of thinking that went into what is needed downtown. And so I don't know if you have those, or who has those, but some of them were very creative, and I think it was an expression of what people felt was lacking in downtown, and how we might spruce it up with some amenities. And the second thing is, Council Member Ellinger referred to the Planning Committee today. We had a pretty good discussion on the downtown master plan, as well as infill and redevelopment, and out of that, and this will all be reported out next week, but one of the things we're going to do is, May the 27th at 3 o'clock, we will have a meeting, special planning meeting, specifically on design guidelines slash form-based guidelines, and we've asked planning to come to us and give us a direct comparison of how these choices, design guidelines, or form-based might line up for downtown, and I would encourage all council members, if you can, to attend that. I think it will really daylight where we need to be going with that sort of thing. So thanks for being here. Vice Mayor Gray. I just, I would feel, want to put a ditto on what many have said about what you've contributed, your energy and enthusiasm for the downtown, your awareness for urban planning and space, so I know that you are doing the best you can, recognizing your role as a minority partner and still the value of that role, even as a minority partner, having the the opportunity to be persuasive, and that I thought of two things from the conference. One was your new friend, I guess Charles Landry, who said, what was it about, he commented on, or he's writing a book on the cost of ugliness, cost of ugliness, and how that that is really a very big deal in our, especially in our urban planning, and that when we do it, when we do it right, sort of like the old aphorisms, we don't have a second chance for a first impression. So I feel that, I know that you're going to be working on this issue hard, behind the scenes, behind the curtain, and because you know what's right, and I know that you will do what's right, and appreciate that. Thank you. Anything further? All right, I think that concludes. Thanks for coming down, Phil. Appreciate you being here. I think we're ready now for the mayor's report. There are a number of appointments for your consideration. I would call your attention to the fact on the land bank authority, there was some confusion about whether that was just for information purposes or not, but that actually needs to be approved by the council as well. So I have a motion to Council Member Crosby to approve the mayor's report, seconded by Council Member Gordon. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Opposed, no. The motion carries. That's all I have. Does anyone have any public comment for the council on matters not on the agenda? I have a motion to adjourn, seconded by Council Member Gordon. Council Member Lane made the motion. All in favor of adjourning, please indicate by saying aye. Opposed, no. The motion carries. Thank you.