All in favor, please say aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Is there a motion to approve the August 17th summary? I have a motion by Councilmember Beard and a second by Councilmember Lane to approve the August 17th summary. Any discussion? All in favor, say aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. We have a few budget amendments. Do I hear a motion to approve? I have a motion by Councilmember Myers and a second by Councilmember Gorton. Any discussion on the budget amendments? All in favor of approving those, please say aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. We have a very short list of new business items today. Do I hear a motion? Motion by Councilmember Beard and a second by Councilmember Gorton to approve the new business items. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Opposed, no. The motion carries. Does someone have the Intergovernmental Committee report today other than Councilmember James? All right. We will skip over that for today and go to the Corridors Commission. Councilmember Feigl? Thank you, Mayor. We had a very productive meeting on August the 17th of the Corridors Commission. We granted Mr. T.J. Moses a waiver to go forward to Council for their recommendation to remove and replace at his own expense some trees that were in front of his property. Mr. Moses agreed to apply for a permit to remove the trees and replace them as soon as possible in compliance with the tree ordinance. Tim Query will work with Mr. Moses to identify an appropriate tree for replacement and will verify that it has been replaced. The Commission also heard reports on various projects, including the Versailles Road Transportation Enhancement Project, the Newtown Pike Transportation Enhancement Project, Newtown and Versailles Road Banner Project, the airport landscaping, which had been replaced and the airport has agreed to maintain that landscaping, Tate's Creek sidewalks, the Tate's Creek tree replacement, North Broadway landscaping, the Chevy Chase intersection redesign, and the Ashboro Treatment and the Art in Motion Art Bus Shelter on Newtown Pike. On a motion by Tom Blues and seconded by David Stevens, the Commission unanimously agreed to allocate funds from the Flag Art Project, which we refer to as the Ribbons Project, to a Banner Project, which will now provide banners for Newtown Pike and Versailles Road, subject to the WEG organizers and approving the design on the banners. A motion by Tom Blues and seconded by Dorothea Oates, the Commission allocated $3,000 to pay for making the Newtown Bus Shelter ADA compliant. And the Commission heard a proposal from Tim Query, Urban Forrester, and Rebecca Burnworth to install five trees adjacent to the Children's Museum on Short Street. And so a motion was made by Tom Blues and seconded by David Stevens, and the Commission voted 7-1 to allocate up to $3,000 for that landscaping on Short Street. And the meeting adjourned at 1 p.m. Any questions for Councilmember Feigl? Councilmember Henson? Thank you, Mayor. Councilmember Feigl, I was just curious about the banners. Originally, when that idea came up, there would be banners on the viaduct on High Street. Is that the location? The banners that were originally planned for on the Versailles Road project were never completed, and so this will include the ones on Versailles Road coming into downtown. In addition to that, there will be banners along Newtown Pike as well inside New Circle Road. Okay. And do you know the time frame? No, we're waiting right now for the WEG Committee to approve the design on the banners. And as soon as we can get those ordered and installed, we hope to have them up before the games. Good. Thank you. Anything further? All right. Mr. Lucas was here just a moment ago, and I think maybe just outside the door, we'll see if we can round him up. Mr. Lucas, if you will come forward, you'll have the podium for your presentation. Boy, that was a quick previous presentation, so I just stepped out for a second. I actually have two handouts from our presentation. One of them will be on the ELMO as well. Thank you very much. This presentation is actually a progress report on the posting of addresses and the citation powers used to get that accomplished. Originally, this was scheduled in May, but it was delayed to unforeseen circumstances, so we are here today to give an update on that process. Originally, I did a presentation to Council in November of 2009, which outlined our goals in the addressing section to get people to post their addresses properly so we can get quicker response for emergencies and other services. In January of 2010, the Council approved a change to the Code of Ordinances, which allowed us to do citation. We have, since that time, filled a vacant administrative specialist position that serves to manage the citation process and also the addressing hearing board. Since that time, we have also divided the county into 17 manageable units so we could go throughout the county area by area and review every address for proper posting. That area is in the map that's handed out to you. So far to date, we have only completed one area, and that's Area 1, which includes the Meadowthorpe area and areas west of Georgetown Road. Within that area, everyone has come into full compliance except for ten properties, and those are still pending. To date, since we started the process, we have provided 187 notices of violation. Only 47 of those created a citation related to it. However, our correction rate is over 80 percent. Eighty percent of individuals who receive a violation notice correct that, which is our ultimate goal. Only 25 percent of those that receive a violation notice actually proceed to the level of a citation. So over 75 percent of the individuals fix the problem before it moves to that stage. Currently, we are moving, as we look at the map, the Meadowthorpe area will be moving in a clockwise rotation inside New Surf Road to areas 2, 3, and 4. We have done a couple other streets just in Area 5, just to gauge how thick the addresses are and how much time it will take to do that. Cynthia, if you could rotate that clockwise. Now I think we're in better shape. Thank you. So we have done a few notices in Area 5, but most of the other areas have been 1 and 2. We also, before someone gets a certificate of occupancy, we review that location, that structure, to make sure their address is posted properly. And sometimes if we go to a subdivision or a commercial development area, we won't just look at the one property, we'll look at everybody in that block and provide any notices that are necessary. The pamphlet that I handed out to you is something we produced this year. That goes out with every notice of violation to give people a quick review of what we are expecting and what is needed. It also has our contact points and, of course, our web page, which goes into much greater detail on what is required for posting of addresses. In residential areas, it's a 4-inch minimum. In the industrial or business areas, it's a 10-inch. But the overriding concern is that the numbers are posted so they're visible from the roadway from either direction. So regardless of the minimal size, we must be able to see the numbers as we approach from either way on a roadway. This report, just being a progress report and an update, that's all I have. One other statement I would like to make is, based on our current staffing, it will take us 10 years to complete the whole county. That sounds like a long time, but our goal is to have every address posted before the next census. I've been here for two censuses, and we would like to be here for the next one, and hopefully by the end of this year, we'll be able to get the numbers. And by that time, we can increase our count rate into the high 80s, which is all very good for us, since this is used for a lot of funding mechanisms on the federal level. Any questions for Mr. Lucas? All right. Thank you very much. Council Member Feigl. We were kind of slow to log in there. I had actually gotten a phone call from one of my constituents, because she had received a notice that she needed to change her house numbers. Now, I don't remember if she's called it a citation or a violation, but she was quite alarmed about it, and apparently there was a pretty quick time frame in which she had to comply with this. Is it like ten days or? I believe it's a ten day window, and then after that, the citations are a seven day window. Quite frankly, we don't have the manpower to get back out in ten days, so it's usually at least two weeks before we can revisit any area. People that do have questions usually contact us, and usually there are questions on where to post it, and they ask for assistance. And as far as we're concerned, they are actively trying to fix it, so we won't go back until they complete it. Okay. I know that she was very concerned that ten days was not sufficient time for her to hire someone to come in and do this for her, that the turnaround time for them to deliver the sign and install it would be longer than the ten days. And I just didn't know if there was a hard deadline there or if she was going to be cited at the end of ten days, but you're telling me that you probably won't go back to inspect it, I mean, within the ten days. So are you just relying on those folks to call you to say we've gotten it done? No, we usually go back. We have to go back before we can do a citation. But of the areas we've done, and it's kind of what you've learned after you do a couple areas, we have not returned to any area in less than 14 days. And usually the businesses, we actually wait longer because it's harder to put a number up on a business, especially with the larger number requirement than a residential. Well, this was residential. I know it was. So the ten days, after ten days, then you would give them a citation? After that it would be a citation, yes. Currently we have five citations that are being appealed, and all of them, they all complied, but they all stated that they were not able to comply within the, that would be 17 days total, almost 21. And those are all being appealed at this time. So the appeal, the hearing board could waive the fine. It's up to that board. That was my next question. Does the citation come with a fine? The citation does come with a fine, yes. It's a $100 fine. If you appeal it, if you waive your appeal and just pay the fine, it's a $100 fine. It's $50. The five that we have now, they all appealed it on their first citation, so it's all holding at $100 until the hearing board reviews their case. Okay. Thank you. Council Member Lane. Thank you, Mayor. I've been somewhat of an advocate for getting the numbers on property, because I think it's a disservice to people visiting us from out of town, as well as the public safety issue. And of course, we do have, have had the games here coming in for some time. And it appears we're not going to be fully numberized before the games get here. My question to you, is there any way that we could do some type of public service announcements on this, like at GTV3 or in our water bills or some of the flyers the Parks Department sends out, or Solid Waste does things about pickups and all that. We have the fact book, and then EMS also should be interested in this, too, because of the emergency calls. Can we sort of put together some type of a marketing campaign, just to get people aware of how important it is to get the numbers correctly on their homes? Yes. Actually, to date, we actually worked with Andrea James on a pamphlet she's doing for mobile homes and made sure that we had some verbiage in terms of how to post addresses. Even on your mobile home, we need a number. They did do a PIO, actually created a short video, which I know they distributed to outside TV outlets, but they've been running it internally, and actually they took the information straight out of the pamphlet. And we are looking at some marketing opportunities outside and get some distribution. We also have gone to two neighborhood associations, and those go over very well. I find everyone in the neighborhood association meetings are very eager when we present this with the pamphlets. It's a very easy thing to do, and it's something a lot of them like to get their neighborhood all, I don't want to say looking the same, but they like to have everyone compliant. Because even if you have your number up and all your neighbors do not, it will delay response. And I'm wondering if you have any neighborhood association, the over committee, I forgot the exact name of that organization, but they have members in all the other neighborhood associations, maybe work through them and try to get it out that way. Actually, I've talked to Mary Ann Blodgett, and I think she's booked me for a couple of those occasions already. All right. Thank you for your report, David. You're welcome. I have a couple of questions. You mentioned briefly about the appeals process. Will you explain to everyone watching what they need to do if they want to appeal a change in address? Yes. Actually, we have an appeal process for any decision of the addressing committee and the citations. The citations, you can appeal them, and it's outlined on their notice of violation where they could contact the addressing office at 258-3089. And they will outline, really, it's just an email or notification they wish to appeal on anything the addressing committee does as far as changing an address. There's also an appeal process for that, and it's the same. You contact the addressing office either through our email, addressing at LexingtonKY.gov, or on all the documentation they have, our contact points. And once they notify us they would like to appeal it, we put it on the next month's agenda. So regardless of the decision the addressing board makes, it comes to the full council for final approval, right? For any property address change, it does come to the full council. We try to do those on a quarterly basis, so we just don't bring one every week. So every quarter we have a batch of addresses that have gone through the process, and they come to the full council. Okay. And then also, I think there's been some issues out there about mailboxes having an address, but people can also have an address above their front door in lieu of both sides of the mailbox, but they just have the mailbox they need to have on both sides. Will you cover that for us? Because there's a lot of confusion about that issue. Yes, there is, because a lot of people have mailboxes out on the curb, and a lot of them were installed by the developer, not by the individual property owners. And a lot of times they'll put the numbers on one side of the mailbox. Well, if we respond from a different direction, we're looking at our rear view mirror the whole time, and you never know which way we're coming. However, besides putting them on both sides of the mailbox, which is feasible in some locations, you can also put it above the door. We just look for one place that the address is in compliant. Anything additional is bonus, but we have to have it in one place. And usually around the door is the best place, and on the mailboxes it must be on both sides. Or some people put it on the front of the mailbox. If it's on the front, we can still see it, no matter which way we're driving. So the front is acceptable in lieu of both sides? That is correct. And what about developers? Have we contacted the major developers in town for some of these larger areas, because a lot of them weren't or are not doing the practice of both sides of the mailbox? No, we haven't. We haven't contacted any of them. We haven't contacted any of them. We haven't contacted any of them. So once we noticed that, we got with planning and contacted all the very active and large developers and sent them all the pamphlet and a short letter saying, this is our standards, please meet all your things to that standard. And we provided that to them. We did not do that initially, but we went back and touched base with them. And how many developers have we touched base with roughly? I believe they said the list was over, I want to say 24, but it was in the 20s. Very good. Thank you, sir. I apologize for not saying this earlier. I'm still troubled by this ten day turnaround time, because I do think that that's a hardship on a lot of folks. Is there a reason why we can't give them 30 days to comply before they get a citation? There's no reason we cannot. We can do that. What do we need to do to make that happen? I just noted it. We'll make it a 30 days from notice of violation until the citation process starts. Thank you very much. I tabled a motion before break on address changes. And some of them were in my district and I had not been notified about them. That particular batch I think was okay. She's referring to the first quarter changes we had earlier and they were tabled while we reviewed them in more detail. Once you're ready, we're ready to move forward on those. I believe you have some concerns about a batch in the second quarter, which we still have in hand. We have not proceeded with those yet. Yes, and they are a big problem. I'll reference myself on this now. I have a double door in the center of the house. And over to the side going into the family room is another door where the mailbox is. And that's where the numbers are. Neither place during the summer could anybody see them, however. Is there any possibility of putting the numbers like between the two garage doors? That's a straight shot with no impediment to. I understand your problem. A lot of times in the summer months it's hard to see numbers because of the foliage, et cetera, that's out. And actually anywhere we can see it from the road is proper. And I believe actually one of the examples in the pamphlet we passed out is above a garage door because their front door was covered by trees. So we want to see it during all months of the year. Thank you. Anything further? Thank you. Just a quick follow-up question. Do you have any interest in address mapping and emergency operations of the EMS or fire department or whatever? I'll be glad to. 911 has evolved over the years, obviously. And so has people's use of addresses. Used to be everyone went to a place based on its title or the store name, et cetera. The addresses are clear and they're not duplicated and the address ranges are not duplicated either. As citizens have gone into GPS and use it more in their car, ironically, it has driven people to realize how important addresses are. I'm sure everyone here has put in an address into MapQuest or Google or even their GPS and it doesn't take them to the right location. A lot of it is because addresses are not consistent throughout the nation. We in Lexington do have one of the higher-end addressing models and it's complimented very often on the national level. But it's only as good as the data we put in. So our police and fire respond to an address. It's how their CAD systems are built. It's how they go. We always dispatch to an address and everything is based on that. And it's not just emergency services. As you well know, solid waste, everyone relies on the address. Our 311 system and everything is moving that all services for our urban county government are tied to an address. So it's very important that we have a unique address for every structure. That's all I've got. Thank you. If there's nothing further, we'll proceed to council reports. Council Member Stennett. Thank you, Mayor. Council Member Beard. Thank you, Mayor. I would like to move approval of the Neighborhood Development Fund list for this week. I have a motion by Council Member Beard and a second by Council Member Ellinger to approve the NDF. Any discussion? Opposed, no. Motion carries. I have several announcements to make. Last night we held our third district-wide informational meeting for the residents in the 5th District, and we had a wonderful selection of speakers from our city staff, and I'd like to thank all of those who participated in that and to thank Emanuel Baptist Church for allowing us to use their facility. Tomorrow night, August 25th, we're going to have a, the parks funding work group is going to have a special speaker. His name is Bill Juckett. He's from the Olmstead Conservancy in Louisville, and he will talk to us about how we might follow that model and set up a parks conservancy in Lexington, and that will be at 6 p.m. in the Phoenix Building in the third floor conference room. On September 2nd, Palmer Engineering will hold their second public meeting on the Chevy Chase redesign, and that will be held at 530 at the Park United Methodist Church. And I would like to just remind everyone that on September 4th, we will host the Vintage Kentucky A Toast to Henry Clay Wine Fest, sponsored by the Kentucky Grape and Wine Council. And it's going to be a really fun event this year, and we have about 15 wineries that are expected to be there. And this is in conjunction with the jazz festival that they, the jazz concert they have every year at Ashland. So we hope everybody will show up for earlier at 1 o'clock in the afternoon for the wine tasting, and then the concert, which is still a free concert, will be at 5 o'clock. Thank you. Council Member Martin. Thank you, Mayor. Tonight, starting at 7 o'clock on South and Drive next to Collins Bowling Lanes, is yet another edition of the South and Jamboree. We only have a few Tuesday nights left in this season, so come on by. Again, the show starts at 7 o'clock, and come early to have dinner on South and Drive. Also on Friday and Saturday night this weekend at Moon Dance at Midnight Pass, in the Beaumont Center Circle, the Lexington Ballet will be performing. And check out the information online, but it's going to be this weekend, Friday and Saturday night in Beaumont Circle at the Moon Dance at Midnight Pass. So we're looking forward to having the Lexington Ballet there. Thank you, Mayor. Thanks. Are there any other council reports? Council Member Lawless. Thank you. I want to announce the Goodrich Neighborhood Association meeting will be this Thursday from 7 to 9, and that's at the end of Goodrich Avenue. Everyone is welcome to attend. We'll all be in a council meeting. AVAL is hosting the Lexington AIDS Walk and Picnic on Sunday, August the 29th. Registration begins at 2 p.m. There's no cost to participate, but you can get people to sponsor you or sponsor somebody. Prizes will be given away. And it begins at 225 Walton Avenue, and the walk begins at 3 p.m. I would also like to move to the Services Committee the issue of visitors' parking permits. There's a change in the ordinance that I'd like for us to look at. Do I hear a second? I have a motion by Council Member Lawless and a second by Council Member Beard. Any discussion? All in favor of referring that item to the Services Committee, I think you said? Yes, thank you. Please indicate by saying aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. I'd also, I don't know if this needs to be sent to a committee or not, but the names of our boards and commission members are no longer listed on the website. And I've had, I was kind of confused when I found that out, and I've had several people comment. So is that something we should? Might I comment? On the website right now, all the boards and commissions are listed with their own separate web page. If you'll go down underneath where it says Boards and Commissions Listing, they're separated by A through C, D through, and it goes on like that. You can click on every single board and see a listing of the members, legislation, mission, all of those things. I did that. I talked to you a few weeks ago about that. So is that new? We spoke, we did speak several weeks ago, and that's been live for the last couple of weeks. So it's been added. So it's now on there. We've been working on it. Okay. Also, could we get a list of the boards and commissions that have vacancies and how long those vacancies have been there? I've had a call, I think there's a vacancy on the Board of Architectural Review and two or three others that I've had people call me about. So if you could, my district's very active with the BOAR because of so many historic. Also, it would be helpful to me to know how many vacancies we have on each board and what the stipulations are for those vacancies. In other words, do they have to be an architect or a CPA? So could we get that? Absolutely. Thank you so much. Council Member Myers. Thank you, Mayor. I think at the last council meeting before we went on break, Mr. Lane made a motion to table the council restructure until this meeting. So I was wondering if you had done any work on that and what you wanted to do today in this meeting. Yes, sir. Well, I think since we've tabled it, it would probably be appropriate to address that issue. And from my perspective, I think it would be helpful if you made a new update presentation just to brief everybody on what's still pending. Maybe we could have a discussion on that. That would work for me. But I would be in favor of untabling it. Okay. I think that's a great idea. What I'd like to do, I think one or two council members asked for the law department to do a side-by-side comparison. I met with Ms. George after last week's work session. To me, it's awkward to try to view it that way and understand it. But what I asked her to do is go ahead and make a copy that way and then two separate copies on separate documents so those of us who look at it better from that perspective can do that. What she suggested and I agree would be a great idea is to just have a workshop on the fifth floor in sort of a less formal setting. And when everybody has a chance to look at the two side-by-sides to see what changes were made from the original to where we are today. And just kind of have a discussion and see if we can get to the point where we can move it forward with a pretty strong consensus. So if you'll untable it, I would love to go ahead and ask the vice mayor to schedule that workshop, council workshop, preferably. Tuesdays are pretty well taken through this month. So I don't know if we want to do it on an off day. We can get 15 of us to come down there for that. Or if we need to wait until next month where we can get a workshop in on a Tuesday. Council Member Beard. You don't have to untable it to have a workshop about it, do you? I think that point is well taken. I can't remember exactly what the motion was two months ago or a month ago, but I think it was the matter be tabled until today, if I recall correctly. So that being the case, it would be off the table anyway. Council Member Gordon. Thank you, Mayor. I wondered, Vice Mayor, do we already have an agenda for our committee of the whole or could we put it into that meeting? We're all thinking along the same lines. We were just having that suggestion just emerged over here from Council Member Ellinger. Okay, thank you. If I may, could you reiterate the date for that committee of the whole, please? I believe it's September 9th. September 9th at 5 o'clock. Council Member White. Yeah, I would support doing it as a committee of the whole because I feel like this is a significant change to the operation of our government. It also would impact the ability of our constituents to come to meetings and know when the meetings are going to be held. So I would recommend we do it as a committee of the whole, too. Thank you. Any further items on the council report from Council Member Lawless? I'm sorry. I would like to request that at Thursday night council meeting Mr. Keith Horn and Mr. Logan ask you both to be here so we can discuss the situation with the pending lawsuit and Mr. Sellers. I will request Mr. Horn be here. I don't know what his circumstances are. Mr. Eskew, are you planning on being here on Thursday evening? All right. Council Member Myers. Thank you, Mayor. Our attorney that's been working with us on this topic, on the restructure, will not be able to make that Tuesday 5 o'clock meeting. So Thursday, I'm sorry, Thursday at 5 o'clock p.m. September 9th, she will not be able to make that meeting. So I'm not sure how that affects, you know, I guess she could probably have a stand-in, but they're not going to be up to speed the way that she is. So I think we'd be ahead of having her at the meeting. Anything further on that or other topics for council reports? Well, I think it's important that she be at that meeting if we're going to get this thing done. So we probably need to look at a different date. You know, what about September 7th at 5 o'clock after the work session? Ah, that's right, because it's after Labor Day. Okay, got you. What about the following week? We've already enacted a new schedule, just two work sessions a month. How about the 21st? 5 o'clock? I take it that's a motion to schedule a CAL meeting on the 21st at 5 o'clock. So moved. Council Member Myers and seconded by Council Member Beard. Any discussion? Vice Mayor Gray. Thank you, Mayor. This sounds like a pretty good agenda item that we don't have a full agenda, we don't have an agenda schedule for the committee to hold now. So unless there's objection, why don't we move the 9th to the 21st? Okay. I would just respectfully ask that we limit the agenda to this one topic. All right. I think the motion now is to move the September 9th CAL meeting to September 21st at 5 o'clock and to limit the agenda to this one topic. So moved. All right. Council Member Martin and Council Member Gordon. Thank you, Mayor. I will be out of town that day on business. I apologize. So I just want to let the Council know. Thank you. Council Member Gordon. Yes, Vice Mayor. My only question was, is there any other item that we need to attend to in the CAL? Not that I'm aware of right now. If something does emerge, we can get with Council Member Myers and determine how long, if it's something that's going to be protracted, then we won't squeeze it into the agenda. If it's something that we can navigate through within the two hours and not compromise this agenda, then we'll try to. How's that? Okay. Thank you. Okay. And maybe if something comes up, we can go ahead and hold this September 9th meeting that you already have the CAL set for or the CAL that you have scheduled that was supposed to be today that's rescheduled. If we just go ahead and keep that date if something else comes up and address it in that meeting. Well, the motion that we entertained a moment ago was a variation of the first motion, which is to cancel the meeting on the 9th. So if we want to go back to the drawing board and just schedule a new one for the 21st, we can do that and leave the one on the 9th on the agenda. I would prefer that we do that. And if we don't need the one on the 9th, we just cancel it. Okay. I think, Council Member Beard, you seconded the motion, so we'll accept that as a friendly amendment. The motion on the floor now is to schedule a new CAL meeting for September 21st at 5 o'clock with a limited agenda dealing with the council reorganization matter. On the fifth floor conference room. All right. Council Member Gordon. My only question, and it's a technical one, and Jeanette will know, there are no meetings after August 31st until the 9th, so do we need any kind of lead time to cancel it, or can we cancel it that day? I mean, there's no meeting during which we would cancel the meeting on the 9th. How does that work? There had to be a notice sent out anyway because the CAL was already on our original calendar, and so by us making that change, we sent a notice out to reschedule it on the 9th. So if we end up canceling the 9th, then I will send another notice out also. My question is simply how would we do that if we don't have any meetings in which to cancel? Vice Mayor, would you just be canceling it for us, or can that work? Give me that authority. If we don't have an agenda that emerges between now and then, and you all say unless there's an objection, I'll send out a notice that says we have no agenda for the 9th. So we'll cancel. Perfect. Thank you. Great. The motion on the floor now is to schedule a new CAL meeting for September 21st at 5 p.m. in the fifth floor conference room to address the issue of the council reorganization solely. All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. I think that concludes the council reports. We have a short mayor's report for your consideration. A motion to approve would be in order. Second. I have a motion by Council Member Lane and a second by Council Member Gordon. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. The next agenda item is public comment on any issues not on today's agenda. Does anyone wish to address the council? All right. We have one matter of litigation to discuss, and so a motion to go into closed session pursuant to KRS 6181C for the purpose of discussing potential litigation involving the urban county government would be in order. So moved, Mayor. I have a motion by Council Member Blues and a second by Council Member McCord. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you.