# Urban County Council Meeting - September 15, 2011 > Auto-transcribed civic record · September 15, 2011 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/2175 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/2175?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2011-09-15 - **Last revised**: September 15, 2011 - **Length**: 27,346 words > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** Audio from the official Granicus video was auto-transcribed with OpenAI's open-source Whisper large-v3-turbo model, run locally by The Lexington Times. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude. Verbatim wording may contain errors. See [methodology](https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/about/methodology) or [report a correction](mailto:editor@lexingtonky.news). --- ## Meeting Overview The Lexington-Fayette Urban County Government Council held a meeting on September 15, 2011, at 6:00 P.M. in Lexington, Kentucky, with Vice-Mayor Linda Gorton presiding. The council addressed three agenda items during the session, including informational updates on the Tates Creek Road Sidewalk Project and the Downtown Streetscape Project, as well as approval of a Musical Invocation. The council took six motions and votes and heard four public comments during the meeting. ## Attendance **Present:** Linda Gorton, Martin, McChord, Myers, Stinnett, Beard, Blues, Crosbie, Ellinger, Farmer, Ford, Henson, Kay, and Lane **Absent:** Lawless **Late:** None ## Votes and Decisions The Council held six votes during this meeting, all of which passed unanimously with 14 ayes and 0 nays. **Musical Talent Showcase** [timestamp: 0:30:14] Motion by McChord, seconded by Myers, to set aside 5:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. before Council Meetings to showcase local Lexington musical talent. Passed unanimously. **Moment of Silence or Invocation** [timestamp: 0:42:12] Motion by McChord, seconded by Myers, to have at least a moment of silence or an Invocation after the roll call at each Council Meeting. Passed unanimously. **Ordinances Given Second Reading** [timestamp: 0:46:34] Motion by Blues, seconded by Lane, to approve ordinances given second reading. Passed by roll call vote 14-0. All members voted in favor: Martin, McChord, Myers, Stinnett, Beard, Blues, Crosbie, Ellinger, Farmer, Ford, Gorton, Henson, Kay, and Lane. **Resolutions Given Second Reading** [timestamp: 1:06:11] Motion by Ellinger, seconded by Stinnett, to approve resolutions given second reading. Passed by roll call vote 14-0. All members voted in favor: Martin, McChord, Myers, Stinnett, Beard, Blues, Crosbie, Ellinger, Farmer, Ford, Gorton, Henson, Kay, and Lane. **Police Staffing Report** [timestamp: 1:05:37] Motion by Henson, seconded by Martin, to place into public safety a staffing report by police. Passed unanimously. **Special Council Meeting** [timestamp: 2:07:17] Motion by Kay, seconded by McChord, to set a special council meeting on September 20th at 3:00 p.m. Passed unanimously. ## Budget and Financial Actions The meeting on September 15, 2011 included approval of the following financial actions: **Employee Health Services Contract** An agreement with Marathon Health, Inc. was approved to provide employees with preventative, wellness, disease management, health consultation, and primary care services. The contract amount is $1,370,886. **Drug Testing Reagents Purchase** A contract with Siemens Healthcare Diagnostics, Inc. was approved for the purchase of drug testing reagents in the amount of $230,000. **Environmental Grant** A grant from the Environmental Protection Agency in the amount of $200,000 was approved for a Brownfields Assessment Project. ## Public Comment Four members of the public addressed the meeting with concerns spanning municipal services, infrastructure, and community issues. **Parks Department Management** [timestamp: 2:53:21] Donald Newman expressed dissatisfaction with the Parks Department, citing unaccounted revenue streams and mismanagement at Meadowbrook. **Traffic and Zoning Compliance** [timestamp: 2:56:40] Bernard McCarthy raised concerns about traffic lane changes and sought clarification on zoning compliance permits and the North Lexington Gateway Plan. **Community Projects and Events** [timestamp: 2:58:52] Gwen Summers discussed multiple issues including a memorial project, a personal incident with law enforcement, and concerns about the Roots and Heritage Festival. **Abandoned Property Safety** [timestamp: 3:03:22] Henry Kenyon spoke on behalf of a friend regarding an abandoned property on Jupiter Drive that poses safety concerns. ## Appointments The following appointments and reappointments were made: * **Dana G. Walton-Macaulay** was appointed to the CASA Board * **Jane Bennington** was appointed to the CASA Board * **Ronald Tritschler** was reappointed to the Convention & Visitor's Bureau Board of Directors * **Ryan A. Stanton** was appointed to the Emergency Medical Advisory Board * **Lawrence T. Smith** was appointed to the Library Board of Advisors ## Contested Items The September 15, 2011 meeting included two contentious discussions: **Marathon Health Contract Approval** Council members engaged in a heated discussion regarding approval of a Marathon Health contract. The primary concern centered on the process and timing of the request. Council members expressed frustration about the lack of prior information before being asked to approve the contract, indicating they felt unprepared to make an informed decision on the matter. **Police Staffing and Promotions** A second heated discussion focused on police staffing and promotions. Council members raised concerns about how planned promotions would impact patrol staffing levels. In response to these concerns, council members requested that a plan be developed to address existing vacancies created by or related to the promotional changes. ## Tates Creek Rd. Sidewalk Project Update Keith Lovan provided an update on the Tates Creek Rd. Sidewalk Project [timestamp: 0:11:25]. The presentation covered funding, project scope, and the current status of the initiative. This agenda item was presented for informational purposes, with no formal action or decision required from the meeting attendees. ## Downtown Streetscape Update George Milligan presented an update on the Downtown Streetscape Project [timestamp: 0:18:53]. The presentation covered the current status of the project, including timelines, costs, and upcoming work phases. This was an informational presentation with no formal action or decision required from the meeting participants. ## Musical Invocation [timestamp: 00:01:02] Gail Wynters and Sons performed a musical invocation at the meeting. Following the performance, a proclamation was presented declaring September 15, 2011, as "Gail Wynters and Sons Day." The proclamation was approved. --- ## Decisions - **Motion** — passed (14-0): Motion to set aside 5:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. before Council Meetings to showcase local Lexington musical talent. - **Motion** — passed (14-0): Motion to have at least a moment of silence or an Invocation after the roll call at each Council Meeting. - **Motion** — passed (14-0): Motion to approve ordinances given second reading. - **Motion** — passed (14-0): Motion to approve resolutions given second reading. - **Motion** — passed (14-0): Motion to place into public safety a staffing report by police. - **Motion** — passed (14-0): Motion to set a special council meeting on September 20th at 3:00 p.m. --- ## Full transcript We are going to go ahead and convene the council meeting of September the 15th, 2011, and I'll ask the clerk to call the roll. Mr. Martin? Yes. Mr. McCord? Here. Mr. Myers? Here. Mr. Stenet? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Beard? Present. Mr. Blues? Here. Ms. Crosby? Here. Mr. Ellinger? Yes. Mr. Farmer? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Ford? Here. Ms. Gordon? Here. Ms. Henson? Here. Mr. Kay? Here. Mr. Lane? Here. And Ms. Lawless? Thank you. Thank you. We have a real treat in store for us tonight. And for our invocation time, we have Gail Winters and Sons. And we have Gail Winters, who is a recording artist for RCA, Capitol Hickory, Maxos, a twice Grammy-nominated person, faculty member of the New York School of Jazz in New York City, has a long bio. And her sons, Trip Bratton, a percussionist, producer, arranger, musical director who teaches percussion at Berea College. Her other son, Artie Bratton, independent composer, arranger for commercials, underscoring films. They each have a long list of talents. And on Tuesday, starting September 13th, Gail and Tripp are joined by Jay Flippen and Bob Bryant for three months of Tuesdays at the Trust. Yes, oh my. And so if you want to go out and hear them, it's 6 to 9 p.m. on Tuesdays. And so welcome. They're going to perform for us, and then we'll have a proclamation. So welcome. Thank you. This is a song I wrote while I was in New York, my little room. And I was just very concerned about what I was seeing and what I was experiencing in life. And so this song pretty much wrote itself. It goes like this. Here I am in this assembly room Somehow I don't understand I don't understand what we have done to create such pain and strife. You've read the headlines in the news They keep trying to separate us from each other But they cannot convince me I know you're my sister I know you're my brother But Charles is the father Of mankind We better Give our children love And teach them that the symbol of brotherhood Is like the branch in the beak of the dove I'm going to go. guitar solo Cause I am you, you or me. It's so simple. How could we forget? That any wrong that we commit against humanity. We'll all live to regret. The child is the father of mankind We better love them and let them be And they'll guide us, ooh They'll help us grow through the eyes of a child them teach us to be free. The child is the father of mankind. Come on in, offer your hand. And we'll build a chain that no one can break. For we are one What? We are one We are one With a family of La-da-do-dee-da-ba-ba-da-da-da-da La-da-da-da-da-da La-da-da-da-da-da-da-da Could you all say We're the family Cause we all one Come on We A little better than that We're one We all one Do it again We're the family We all one After we work at it a little bit longer We'll all come together And be the family that we really are. We're the family of men. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. We're going to stand right here. Will you join me for the proclamation? This is for Gail Winters and Sons Day. And this is on behalf of the mayor, who says, I, Jim Gray, mayor of Lexington Fayette, Urban County Government, in recognition of the musical achievements of Gale Winters, Trip Bratton, and Artie Bratton, do hereby proclaim September 15, 2011, Gale Winters and Suns Day. And it's signed by the mayor, Jim Gray. Oh, we treasure this. Thank you. Thank you all very much. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. We do have two presentations tonight. And the first is our Taste Creek Road Sidewalk Project Update by Keith Lovin from Division of Engineering. and that will be followed by the downtown streetscape update by George Milligan, Department of Environmental Quality and Public Works. Yes, I appreciate the opportunity to give you all an update on a couple of projects. We have so many projects going on in our department right now, and you all know a lot about a lot of them. but to be able to come before the group and give you an update, give you a chance to ask questions is an honor that we look forward to. Two of the projects that we have been asked quite a few questions about are the two that Vice Mayor Gordon mentioned, the Tates Creek sidewalks and also Streetscape. And so rather than me attempt to answer those questions, I've asked the experts to come forward and then we'll kind of cover where we are in these projects, what's going on with them, and then give you a chance to ask any questions that you might have about that. So with that, I'll turn it over to Keith. He is our project manager for the Tates Creek Sidewalk Project and can give you an update on where we are here. Thank you, Cheryl. Thank you all. I'm Keith Lovin, the project manager for the Tates Creek Road Sidewalk Project. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. There we go. That's it. Thank you. A little bit of background about the project. This project was funded with the CMAC grant, Congestion Mitigation and Air Quality. We got $811,000 from the federal government, and we provided a $200,000 match with local funds. The scope of the project is to construct sidewalks on each side of Tate's Creek, where there are none, from Dove Run Road up to the enclave at Montclair. The way it became a project was it was identified in the 2007 Bike and Pedestrian Master Plan as the number one project where the citizens of Lexington would like to see a sidewalk. There was a lot of public input and a lot of requests for this project. So when we found out that was the project that the citizens wanted, then we went out and found the funding. It provided connectivity. It provided access for the citizens to get to the shopping centers, to the churches along the corridor. It connected the neighborhoods. We had a public meeting in January. We had presented a set of plans to the public. And at that meeting, we had said we would hope to be under construction in the late fall. Actually, we had projected completion by the fall of this year. We are not able to do that. We are in the right-of-way acquisition phase. Since we had that public meeting until today, we've done a number of things. We had a lot of input at that public meeting, and we had to go back in and adjust some of the plans. once the citizens saw, or actually the property owners saw what we were doing, they had asked us to make adjustments and to shift the sidewalk in a couple locations, actually several locations. We also met with utility companies, and they got an opportunity to see how this project was going to affect their utilities. And so we worked out some agreements to shift the sidewalk in some locations, and then they have offered to relocate some of their facilities in order to make the project work. So we've been working on that all of this spring and summer, and we have just now begun the right-of-way acquisition phase. We also had to do the properties. We were taking such large amounts of right-of-way from the properties, we had to get appraisals. And so we're waiting on those appraisals to get done before we can make offers to those two properties. we are anticipating some delay in actually after we get all of the memorandums of understanding from these property owners to get the actual deeds recorded and so we're looking at outside council to help us to move that process along and then once we have all of the right-of-way then we'll be able to submit the plans to the state for approval and that process from the time that we submit the plans to when we actually bid the project is a several-month project. This is a status of the right-of-way acquisition. You can see we've got 27 parcels to acquire. 11 of them are permanent easements, and 16 of them are temporary easements. We've made an offer to 25 of the 27. The two that we have in are the ones that we're writing on the appraisals. We've already had six parcels where they have agreed to go ahead and transfer the property to the LFUCG. We've made follow-up contacts to another 12. And as those come in, then that's when we will start filing them with the, doing the transfer of the right-of-way. This is our revised schedule. right-of-way acquisition is ongoing. We anticipate we'll start relocating utilities in November. As soon as we get all of the right-of-way acquired, we cannot submit the plans until we have all of the right-of-way. We anticipate a two- to three-month review time by the state. We anticipate letting the contract in May and starting construction in July of 2012 with a completion date of November. And this is just some pictures of the corridor. It shows why we're putting the sidewalk in. You can see a worn path, and this is some more scenes along the project. And that shows the after view. And that's all I have for Taits Creek. Are there any questions, Council Members? I got one. If you'd like to log in, it would be a good time for questions. Council Member Farmer. Keith, thank you for the update. On the presentation, can you go back like three or four slides? One more, one more, stop. In that picture is the spot that is constantly low on Tate Street Road. That's on the 5th District side. Now, I've tried to explain to the transportation cabinet folks exactly where that is. It's always a big puddle like that, and it's icy in the winter, and it's something to dodge when it rains in the summer. We need to find a way to get that to drain right there, because it just so happens it's perfectly pictured and obviously shows the need for the sidewalk because the poor persons are in the road there. But that is exactly the low spot there. And I met with two, well, the day we had the double diamond presentation on the fifth floor, I talked with them about it and tried to send them pictures of it. But if you could isolate that spot and try to get it fixed since we've gotten until November of next year on this project, I would appreciate it very much. Okay. I will look into that. Is there any other question, Councilmembers? If not, thank you very much for your update. And Mr. Milligan, the downtown streetscape. Start off with something you have never seen before. This happens to be limestone. As you'll recall, back in August of 2009, we began construction on the streetscape projects. The first one that we started with was the limestone project. And as you can see, this was right before school started there at UK. This was right after we opened it, the same shot. We had that section opened up. Still, if you see at the very top, the road is closed there from Maxwell on down. And again, as I looked before and afterwards. After completing that portion of limestone, we went down and started work on Main Street. We had two projects on Main Street and two projects actually on Vine Street, which were to be completed before the World Equestrian Games. In addition to those, we had the Cheapside Pavilion that was done as a winter project and was actually opened in April of last year. After the World Games ended, we still had approximately four more blocks of downtown to construct, and those were the blocks from Martin Luther King to Elm Tree Lane. This is another site I'm sure that you all know. It happens to be in front of this building. And again, they're in front of the building. where we are on the Main Street project at this time is it doesn't look like it today, but we are actually starting to wind down on the major construction. We think there is a light at the end of the tunnel. We hope it's not a train coming the other way. But as of right now, as of today, our schedule is on Monday, the landscapers will come in and start the landscaping work. On Wednesday, we will be milling the street during the day. On Thursday, we will re-blacktop Main Street. Thursday night, we will re-stripe it. We will still be on the concrete sidewalk. The sidewalk right now is presently complete with the concrete portion up to Founders Bank. By next Tuesday, all of the concrete is scheduled to be completed. We're having a little problem getting some of the asphalt to do the rest of our pavers, but decorative paving is back in working on it. They were working on some of the handicap ramps today, and we'll be doing more of the amenities package starting tomorrow. We are anticipating right now that we will have substantial completion by the end of next week on the project. We know there's still going to be some landscaping work and some punchless items to do. In addition to this, for all of the streetscape, there is an amenities package still outstanding. And where we are on the amenities package, for the Main Street portion, the bike racks are at the fabricators. They should be installed in October. The benches, we are repurposing the existing benches that are on Main Street. They're being used now. We don't want to take them up and take them away from everybody. So this fall, we are going to bid the refurbishing of those benches, have that work done over the winter, replace them in the spring. Same is basically true about the flower boxes. We will bid them in the fall of this year with installation in the spring of 2012. One of the things that we're doing a little different is when we bid these, we are also including the maintenance of all these for the first year. Presently, Parks comes down and changes out the plannings three times a year. In this contract, whoever the successful bidder is will do that for the first year of it. There is also across the street from this building, there is a transit shelter scheduled. It actually sits in front of the Chase Bank fountain. If you look over there now, you'll see a couple of orange cones sticking up out of the ground where the foundation is already in, and there is a market stall shelter and identity pier scheduled for Cheapside Park. The final design has been approved by the architect, KKG, and they're in the process of preparing the bid documents for those right now. For the vine and lime, before you all went on break, You all approved a $750,000 safety grant with the state for the amenities on that portion. It did have a $187,000 match to it. The Kentucky Transportation Cabinet approved it on May 20th, and the Transportation Cabinet approved us using the existing design team to design that project, and they issued a notice to proceed on August 9th. The same on the regular Vine Street, there is some concrete work going over there for the punch list. We anticipate that being punched out and that project totally closed out within the next 45 days. We'll take questions. Okay, very good. Thank you, Mr. Milligan. Council Member Stenwick. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Mr. Milligan, thank you for coming tonight. It's always a joy to talk streetscapes. As you know, this government is very fond of them and has been the last couple of years, apparently. Just a quick question on the Main Street. When did we begin this piece of Main Street? This piece? Yes. We actually started it before the World Games, May of last year. From Martin Luther King to Rose Street? We started the portion of it we did was from Limestone to MLK with the plan to come back and do the other afterwards. We started this in February of this year. And so are we on schedule? No. How far behind are we? It was scheduled to actually have had substantial completion by the 4th of July. If you will look, we had a very, very wet winter and spring. We would have liked to have started it actually earlier than when we came back, but the previous administration had made some decisions that they didn't want to do that. So we lost some construction time. When that schedule was set, it was anticipated that when the World Games were over, we would come back in and do some construction at that time before winter set in, and we were unable to do that. And what about change orders? Has that delay cost us any additional money? You're going to see you've already approved two change orders on it. You're going to see two more coming. One of them is, if you recall, for a long time there was a humongous hole in front of this building. once we found out after we started construction that there was 110 foot of sanitary sewer that had to be replaced there. The way the timing worked out, we were able to excavate that and locate all the existing utilities and find the conflicts. We then had to come back and fill the hole back in for the Fourth of July Festival and then re-excavate it afterwards. Re-excavating it the second time, we were able to reuse all the material someplace else and was a lot faster because we had already located everything. We knew where everything was down there. And what's our total cost of change orders so far? Right at $200,000, I believe. And what's the total cost of the project altogether? $207 million. $207 million? Yes, sir. Okay. And then what's our now completion date up there? Should be the end of next week. Oh, everything totally done? For substantial completion. There may be, depending upon what the weather does, there may be some landscaping work. And what are the little metal squares in front of this building for? Those are to protect you. Those are going to be steel safety ballers. Okay. And do they light up? Are they just metal, steel? They're metal, steel, like the ones that are in front of Cheapside Park. Okay. That's what I thought. Only they're black instead of the chrome. Okay. And was this the same contract that did South Limestone? No, it is not. This is Woodall Construction. Limestone was done by ATS Construction. Okay. Very good. Thank you, sir. Are there any other questions from council members? Commissioner, did you want to speak? I just wanted to clarify the cost of the project. Evidently, I said $207 million. It was $2.7 million. I'm sorry. And I don't know what that is per foot. That's okay. I haven't got there yet, but I will. Thank you for clarifying that. Any other questions? Okay. Councilmember McCord. Well, since you led with that, what I would like for you to bring back is what is the cost per square foot? It will be a linear foot, but I'll be happy to do that. I can provide that for all of the projects. That would be great since that seems to be how we measure things in Lexington is cost by square foot. It's going to be a little funny. On the Vine Street project, it was actually two projects. Part of it, the roadway and the electrical service was actually done under a state contract. And then the urban county government, we did the streetscape portion under a bonded contract. I know the citizens appreciate that. It seems to be the math that they understand most. Thank you. Okay, Council Member Lane. I just wanted to comment. My offices are across the street, and I'm running the gauntlet between the two offices to get over to the city hall. all, but I see Mr. Milligan out there all the time running the job, and I just want to say I know you've been working hard. Thank you. Thank you. Any other questions? Seeing none, thank you very much, Mr. Milligan. That completes our presentations, and Council Member McCord has asked to make a comment regarding our invocation time before we start the readings. I want to clarify something I think that may have been confused or maybe I have misstated, and I want to make sure that I have clarified that to council and to the community. A couple of years ago we went to Austin, Texas, and one of the things that we saw was music was everywhere. That was part of their culture, and they highlighted the creative culture and the talent they have in their community in a lot of different ways. But one of the ways was before council meetings they had some of their talent, their world-class talent, perform much like what we heard tonight. And I wanted to thank Gail Winters and Sons for coming down and you see the type of talent we have. And what I would like is for folks to have more of an opportunity to see that and for us to showcase that. But let me clarify that I in no way indicated that I felt like we needed music in lieu of an invocation. And I want to go on record to say that that's not what we're going to do, or at least this council member wants to see done. So I want to clarify, and this is what I'd like to do, council. I would like to make a motion that 5.30 to 6 o'clock, the half hour before our council meetings, would be a time for showcasing of talent, a musical preamble, and I'd like to make the motion that we designate that time for our talent to perform inside these chambers. Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second to set aside 530 to 6 before our Thursday night council meetings for a time for musical entertainment, so to speak. Is there discussion? Council Member Lane. Yes, sir, Mr. McCord. Are you suggesting also it would be appropriate to have that televised? If we're going to have people come down and do that, we don't have that much room here, so perhaps it should be televised on GTV3? We'll work with G3 to make that a reality. Thank you. Any other discussion of the motion? Council Member Cosby. Are these people donating their time, or are we paying some sort of stipend for them to come in and perform? Does anybody know that? Do you mean the people who've already played? No, just for, I guess, in the past, and then also for the future, have we been? Council Member Crosby, a few years ago we had a group called Little Big Town that came in to perform with the Lexington Singers and so forth. They took a half hour and were able to showcase a whole lot of their talent. It was great. The chambers were filled up with folks listening to it. It wasn't done for a fee or anything like that. What I envision is using that 5.30 to 6 o'clock as an opportunity to give an audience to some folks who may want to perform. I remember when they were here, and I wasn't asking about them specifically, but if we're going to make this a routine, I was just curious if they were donating their time since we're showcasing them or if we already had some talent. I was just curious. Council Member Kay. Thank you, Vice Mayor. My understanding was that this was a form of invocation in musical form, and that it is one of the ways in which we would begin our meeting. There may also be an interest in showcasing local talent, which I'm all in favor of, but I guess I'd like to hear more discussion about whether alternative forms of invocation are acceptable to the Council as well as more traditional prayer. Thank you. Okay. Is there any other discussion of the motion? Council Member McCord? We'll go ahead and take the vote, and then I'd like to go to Council Member Kaye's comment. And I think if it does pass, certainly there will be folks who would work on it to iron out all these details. I think my question was going to be answered, but... Did you want to answer Council Member Crosby's question at the microphone, please? They do donate their time. It's just, you know, people that volunteer and are seeking out non-traditional implications like Steve Kay mentioned. Council Member Kay. Well, I see Laurie Houlihan's come up. Perhaps she can explain kind of what we've had so far and what the intention is, and then I may have an additional comment. Yeah, it's just a different form of invocation. Nobody's paid, and we're just trying to pick really talented, accomplished local musicians to showcase. Thank you. I think it would be harder to ask them to donate their time for 30 minutes than the five minutes that we've been doing. So that's kind of how we chose that time slot. Councilmember McCord. Again, let me reiterate, since I was attributed with bringing back this idea, this is not the idea that I brought back. What I brought back was how Austin, Texas did that by showcasing their talent. before council meetings. And so this is not in lieu of an invocation. And so we'll speak to that after this particular vote. But this time would give us an opportunity to have that opportunity before council meetings to showcase that talent. Council Member Beard. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I guess my question might be, can we fill 30 minutes' worth of time with an audience? because I walk in here at 10 minutes until 6, and there's maybe two people sitting in the audience and me. I haven't tried to do that, so I have no idea. I've asked... I'm actually probably asking my colleagues what they feel about that. I mean, if we set up something to do for 30 minutes, maybe we only do it once a month as opposed to every council meeting. Yeah, and we're not planning on doing it every council meeting. Well, how will we know? Will somebody let us know so we can come and... At this point, we don't have anyone else scheduled yet until December. Until when? To December. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Council Member Martin. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I support the motion, Council Member McCord's motion. And, you know, if they run out of time, we can just homitune. So I'm sure it will vary from week to week. But I think it's a great chance. We've got a lot of great talent here in Lexington, so I appreciate you doing that. It will probably be every once in a while, so we'll see how it goes. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Council Member Farmer. So it's not mandatory each time then? No, just designating from 530 to 6, that would be the time frame that folks could use for that. So then the musical portion of our program would be from 530 to 6. Correct. And at 6, we would have our roll call or invocation. Correct. You know, my initial reaction is simpler is better. But in the spirit of infotainment, I will vote for your motion. Council Member Myers. Thank you, Vice Mayor. And I agree, the clarification that Council Member Farmer just made I was going to make. But I think it's an excellent idea. I was down in Austin with you when we looked at that. And so I think it's a fantastic idea. I believe that if people get in the habit of having someone come in and play for that half hour, then people will come in here and certainly it will be on TV for people to watch as well. But I do agree with your premise in the very beginning, and that is that this was never intended to be a substitute for the invocation. So I support your motion. Thank you. Council Member Lane. Just another thought I was having is if we have them on GTV3, of course, that will be rebroadcast. It would help give this talent some exposure to our local community, and we might be able to promote it on GTV3 that next Thursday Jay McCord Group will be in. So I think that's a good idea. I will be supporting it. Thank you. Council Member Hanson. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Lori, this is something you'd be willing to schedule and coordinate. I guess I'm wondering, is it going to be like something like you think you can sing? I've tried to keep the two that I've scheduled so far. I've tried to make sure I've got some pretty critically acclaimed local artists. artist. I guess I was just curious, is it something where somebody just shows up and they will play music, or is it going to be scheduled? Yeah, that's... Scheduled. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Is there any other comment? Council Member Ellinger. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I understand and I appreciate the spirit that this has brought forward here. I think we have some logistic issues that probably need to be addressed, and I want to support it, but I'm not sure if at this point we're really ready to pursue it, and I'm wondering is this something maybe we could put in committee and then at that point we could talk about it? I mean, I would like to do it, but I just think that when you're asking the administration to fill up the 30 minutes, is this going to be for every council meeting, or is this... No, let me clarify again, because I think we're making this a lot more complicated than needs to be. The idea is that when we came back from Austin, that they used the time before their council meetings to showcase their talent, but they have music everywhere. They have venues everywhere. I want to designate the time from 5.30 to 6 where we could do that. You can fill any portion of that that you want, but this was never intended to supplant our invocation time. I want to be clear what I said coming back. I know the mayor had kind of attributed that this was my idea, this was not my idea to supplant that. But I do want to give my idea was a couple years ago to create a time that when it worked with your schedule and we had folks to do that, that there was a place to do that. Certainly we can work through logistics, but at the end of the day, I want to create a time frame by resolution that we can do that in where we have some structure. Any other comments on the motion? Okay. Seeing none. Have it restated, please. Would you like to restate your motion? Certainly. I'd like to designate the time from 5.30 to 6 on Thursdays before council meeting as the opportunity for music in these council chambers when available and when scheduled by the administration. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Is anyone opposed? Okay, that motion passes. We'll look forward to working with the administration. The council can work with the administration, and we'll see if we can make it happen, maybe see how it works. Okay. Okay. Vice Mayor, if I may, let me finish with that, because I believe that Council Member Kay brought up a very good point. Having a time designated as an invocation, this government has been around for quite a while. This city has weathered a great deal of challenges, and I think that this council faces as big of challenges as maybe any council has faced, this administration does. And it's my firm belief that looking past ourselves and looking to something much higher is probably a very wise move. And while we all may not share the same faith and who we would pray to in that situation or if we would pray at all, I do think that it is wise before we get into the business of tonight that we at least take an opportunity to pray beforehand or a moment of silence. And I would so move that we would take at least a moment of silence as a formal invocation. So moved. Okay, we have a motion and a second that after roll call, is that what your motion is, we have at least a moment of silence or an invocation. Is that correct? That we would hold our invocation time, yes. Yes, okay. And there's a second by Mr. Myers. And there is discussion. Mr. Myers. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I would just say that, you know, in Congress in D.C., not only do they have a chaplain for both the House and the Senate that are on staff that are paid by the taxpayers, but they open their sessions the same way. The Supreme Court opens in a prayer. and this government's been doing that probably since I don't know how long. So I'm in support of the motion and hope that we continue on with what we've been doing. Thank you. And Council Member Kaye. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I can support the motion so long as people are willing to include music as a part of an invocation. I see no reason to exclude that. I think that's been the intention. We wanted to have a moment of reflection and I think that can be done musically as well as just with the spoken word. So maybe I need a clarification of whether the motion is meant to exclude that or not. Council Member McCord. I would certainly not exclude that, but I would say, Council Member Kay, that giving someone's concert schedule and where they're appearing and all of that is not something that we do with someone else that takes that mic to pray for us or to lift this body up and this city up. And so during that time of invocation, I think that what I would say is that we recognize the sacredness of that and that we give opportunity for our talent to show during that half hour before. But I'm not opposed to that. But what I don't want is something that takes away from that moment where we are looking to something much past ourselves to guide these deliberations. Is there anyone else who wishes to speak to the motion? If not, all those in favor, please say aye. Anyone opposed? Okay, that motion passes. Now, thank you, Mr. Farmer. I believe we're ready to move on. And if the clerk would give second reading to the ordinances. Ordinance number one. An ordinance amending certain of the budgets of the Lexington Fayette Urban County Government to reflect current requirements for municipal expenditures and appropriating and reappropriating funds, Schedule No. 31. Number 2. An ordinance granting a waiver to the Richmond Road Landscape Plan, Ordinance No. 21283 for 2299, 2349, and 2399 Richmond Road. Number three, an ordinance amending certain of the budgets of the Lexington-Fayette Urban County Government to reflect current requirements for funds in the amount of $3,796.91 from neighborhood development funds in the Division of Fire and Emergency Services for training equipment and appropriating and reappropriating funds, Schedule number 32. Number four, an ordinance amending Section 2152 of the Code of Ordinances abolishing one position of administrative officer, Grade 118E in the Office of the Commissioner of Public Works, and creating one position of Administrative Officer, Grade 118E in the Office of the Commissioner of Environmental Quality and Public Works, and amending Section 2252 of the Code of Ordinances, abolishing one position of Commissioner of Public Works and Development, Grade 211E, one position of Construction Supervisor, Grade 118E, one position of Administrative Specialist Senior, Grade 112N, changing the name of the Commissioner of Environmental Quality to the Commissioner of Environmental Quality and Public Works, creating one position of Construction Supervisor, Grade 118E, and one position of Administrative Specialist Senior, Grade 112N, all in the Department of Environmental Quality and Public Works. And number five, an ordinance amending Section 235B of the Code of Ordinances, abolishing one position of Police Captain and creating one position of Police Lieutenant in the Division of Police and appropriating funds pursuant to Schedule Number 30. Do I hear a motion to accept? All right. We will take a roll call vote. Can you restate the motion and motion and seconder, please? Will the firster and the seconder, please, electronically announce your firster or seconder? And the motion is to approve. I thought it was you. Okay. Do you see the motioner and the seconder? Okay. Ready to go? Mr. Martin? Yes. Mr. McCord? Yes. Mr. Myers? Yes. Mr. Stennett? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Beard? Aye. Mr. Blues? Yes. Ms. Cosby? Yes. Mr. Ellinger? Yes. Mr. Farmer? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Ford? Yes. Ms. Gordon? Aye. Ms. Henson? Yes. Mr. Kay? Yes. And Mr. Lane? Yes. Thank you. Okay, those ordinances pass 14-0. Thank you. Will you read first reading of ordinances, please? Ordinance No. 6, an ordinance amending Article 27-8 of the Zoning Ordinance to update references to codes for properties within the courthouse area overlay zone. Number seven, an ordinance changing the zone from a planned neighborhood residential R3 zone to a high-density apartment R4 zone for 6.81 net, 8.24 gross acres for property located at 2391 Sir Barton Way. 8. An ordinance amending Articles 1, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 19, 22A, 24, 25, and 27 of the Zoning Ordinance to authorize changes in permitting and enforcement functions to the Division of Planning and to create a zoning compliance permit. 9. An ordinance amending certain of the budgets of the Lexington Fayette Urban County Government to reflect current requirements for municipal expenditures and appropriating and reappropriating funds, Schedule No. 33. Number 10, an ordinance amending Section 2152 of the Code of Ordinances, changing the job title of the Director of Community Development to the Director of Grants and Special Programs in the Division of Grants and Special Programs, and amending Section 2252 of the Code of Ordinances, abolishing one position of Administrative Officer, Grade 118E, and creating two positions of Administrative Officer, Part-Time, Grade 118E, in the Office of the Chief Administrative Officer, and appropriating funds pursuant to Schedule Number 34. Number 11 and Ordinance Amending Sections 15, 16, 18, and 19 of Ordinance No. 69, 2011, relating to the reorganization, correcting subsection line numbers in the Code of Ordinances, effective retroactive to July 1, 2011. Number 12, an ordinance amending section 2152 of the Code of Ordinances, creating one position of staff assistant senior, grade 108N, and one position of administrative officer, grade 118E, in the Office of the Commissioner of Social Services, creating one position of administrative specialist senior, grade 112N, and one position of social worker, grade 111E, in the Division of Adult Services, abolishing one position of administrative officer, grade 118E, one position of administrative specialist senior, grade 112N, one position of social worker, grade 111E, in the Division of Adult Services, abolishing one position of administrative officer, grade 118E, one position of administrative specialist senior, grade 112N, one position of social worker, grade 111E, in the Division of Adult Services, abolishing one position of administrative officer, grade 118E, one position of administrative specialist senior, grade 118E, one position of administrative specialist, senior, grade 118E, one position of administrative specialist, senior, grade 118E, one position of social worker and one position of Staff Assistant Senior, Grade 108N, all in the Division of Youth Services, amending Section 2252 of the Code of Ordinances, abolishing one position of Equipment Operator Part-Time, Grade 108N, in the Division of Family Services, and creating one position of Equipment Operator Part-Time, Grade 108N, in the Division of Youth Services, and transferring the incumbents and appropriating funds pursuant to Schedule No. 36. Number 13, an ordinance amending Section 2152 of the Code of Ordinances, creating one position of Administrative Specialist Senior, Grade 112N, in the Division of Youth Services, and amending Section 2252 of the Code of Ordinances, creating one position of Commissioner of Planning, Grade 210E, in the Office of the Chief Administrative Officer, and appropriating funds pursuant to Schedule Number 35. And number 14, an ordinance amending certain of the budgets of the Lexington Fayette Urban County Government to reflect current requirements for funds in the amount of $750 for the Division of Historic Preservation from Neighborhood Development Funds to assist with restoration of Scholar's Clock and appropriating and reappropriating funds, Schedule number 37. Council members, are there any motions? Seeing none, will you go ahead and give a second reading to resolutions, please? Resolution number one, a resolution amending sections one and two of resolution number 149, 2011, which authorized the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute an amendment to agreement with Granicus, Inc., to include authorization for monthly support and maintenance for web streaming and the council chamber voting system, and to include two monthly license fees for the word add-in module and one word add-in template at a cost not to exceed $33,520. Number two, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute agreements with Imani Family Life Center, Inc., $600, and Kentucky Humanities Council, $700, for the office of the Urban County Council at a cost not to exceed the sum stated. Number three, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute an extension of the lease and option agreement with William L. Hassett, Jr. as trustee under the restated revocable living trust for the benefit of William L. Hassett, Jr., Charles D. Mitchell, Jr., Elizabeth Mitchell, Executrix, estate of James L. Mitchell and Ann Hassett-Zelly, extending the contract period for 166 North Martin Luther King Boulevard to June 30, 2012. Number four, a resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute and submit a grant application to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development and to provide any additional information requested in connection with this grant application, which grant funds are in the amount of $500,000 federal funds under the Community Challenge Planning Grants Program and are for planning consultation services for the North Lexington Gateway Plan. Number five, a resolution amending Resolution No. 255-2011 to change the name of the entity from which the Zumro Air Shelters and Equipment are being acquired to Advanced Ecosystems Incorporated, a sole source distributor, and increasing the total cost to an amount not to exceed $189,365.60. Number six, a resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute and submit a grant application to the Kentucky Department of Juvenile Justice to provide any additional information requested in connection with this grant application and to accept this grant if the application is approved, which grant funds are in the amount of $16,183 federal funds and are for continuation of the juvenile surveillance program, professional services, professional development, drug testing services and supplies, and educational materials, the acceptance of which obligates the urban county government for the expenditure of $1,798 as a local match and authorizing the mayor to transfer unencumbered funds within the grant budget. Number seven, a resolution ratifying the permanent civil service appointments of Vincent Davis, Public Service Worker Senior, Grade 107N in the Division of Streets and Roads, effective July 31, 2011. Andre German, Trades Worker Senior, Grade 109N in the Division of Streets and Roads, effective May 15, 2011. Approving the probationary sworn appointments of Thomas Perkins, Police Sergeant, Grade 315N, 28.588, hourly in the Division of Police, effective September 19, 2011. Darren Salyer, Police Sergeant, Grade 315N, 28.588, hourly in the Division of Police, effective September 19, 2011. Jacqueline Richardson Newman, Police Sergeant, Grade 315N, 28.588, hourly in the Division of Police, effective September 19, 2011. Mark Brand, Police Lieutenant, Grade 317E, 3025.14 biweekly in the Division of Police, effective September 19, 2011. Christianelli Police Lieutenant, Grade 317E, 3025.14 biweekly in the Division of Police, effective August 1, 2011. Number 8, a resolution authorizing the increase of Purchase Order LF00082806 by the amount of $1,149 for the Division of Water Quality on behalf of the Urban County Government to purchase three mixing compressors for the Town Branch Wastewater Treatment Plant from Siho Pumps Incorporated, care of Kentucky Sherman & Schroeder Equipment Company, a sole source provider, increasing the amount from $40,689 to $41,838. And number nine, a resolution approving the recommendation of the Division of Water Quality to select a two-year, 24-hour storm event as the design storm to form the basis of implementation of the LFUCG Sanitary Sewer System Remedial Measures Plans required by the U.S. EPA Consent Decree. Do I hear a motion to approve? So moved. Okay. Will you log in if you made the motion or second? That will help our clerk. So the motion by Mr. Ellinger, second by Mr. Stennett to accept. Stennett? Mr. Stennett seconded. So will you take the vote, please? Yes. Oh, Council Member Stenet. Thank you. Commissioner Mason, I had a quick question. On number seven, there's a lot of promotions over in Division of Police. What does this do to the patrol ranks when they move up from a patrol officer to a sergeant? I assume they're not on patrol anymore. I know we have a shortage there. Have we looked at that? Is that affecting the patrol at all, or will these people still be out on patrol? The sergeants are out and handle calls as well, but, again, we've got to have people that supervise the line officers, and the sergeant is the first position of that. Same way with lieutenants on here? Yes. They will be out in the sectors managing the operations on the different shifts. So there's no lapse in coverage for patrols at all right now. These six individuals, we're five. Can we verify that? Can you give us some information and make sure I know? Commander Edwards. Because I know there has to be some kind of ripple effect. Yes, there is some ripple effect. But I'm not sure all of these people are coming from patrol to the positions they're coming in. With this situation, you do have three of the officers who are getting promoted to sergeant who are coming from patrol. So we do subtract from their numbers out there on patrol. We are looking at other ways to staff and allocate our personnel as our numbers do dwindle with attrition. And until we can hire a class, that's the situation we're in. So this makes having the class in January more valuable at this point. If we're freeing up three empty bodies, Commissioner, I think we'd want to stick by what the council budgeted and try to find bodies to fill this somehow, some way without cutting services. So this is something we all need to keep an eye on. I know you need supervisors. There's no question there. But my point is we're losing people on patrol, and that's where we also need people. And don't want to cut other services to fill those, but that's probably what we're going to have to end up doing if we don't. So I'd just like an update on the plan as we move people up through the ranks and as you have retirees at the end of the year even, what we're going to really do to field patrol. Thank you. Thank you, Commander. I appreciate that. On the same issue, before you leave the podium, Mr. Farmer has a question and then Mr. Martin. Well, I'm glad you brought this up because it's similar to a question I asked a couple of weeks ago about when we do these, what's the net effect of people on the street? And I agree we need a plan. or we need something that shows us when we've been. We don't want to stop anybody from getting their promotion, but we want to make sure that the citizenry is properly protected. And right now, the opportunity for that to be replenished at the patrol level isn't until beginning in January for a class that wouldn't be ready until months after that. So I agree. We need to know what the plan is because the more people who aren't on patrol, the more likelihood there is that something could happen. I just think we just need to be a little vigilant about it. That's all. Okay. Count. Commander. It will not have an effect on the number of people that we put on the street every day. It may impact officers who want to take time off. We may have to deny vacations. We may have to jockey around the schedules to cover training. But we're not going to sacrifice numbers on the street to make these promotions. on any given night. Thank you for that clarification. I appreciate that. But I think when we have further actions like this, part of it needs to show us what the net effect is. And we can talk about that offline. Okay, now we have a few more. This has stimulated some interest. Council Member Martin. Thank you, Vice Mayor. And I appreciate that is exactly what we were kind of looking for. But as a cautionary note, I think there's an assumption here that we're going to hire this new class of police officers. And I think we should all at least account for the possibility that our city's finances are not going to allow that. So I think what we need is a contingency plan should our finances deteriorate rapidly, that how we can cover all the spots, because it may be that we may not be able to do that. So obviously we need those officers. There's no doubt about that. We are short, and we all know that. But I think the situation seems to be changing fairly rapidly, so I think we need to have contingency plans. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Council Member Henson. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I remember I also asked specifically Assistant Chief Bossy two weeks ago if these promotions, if these folks would be taking calls for service because we've reduced the special units and so forth because there's not enough units, enough officers to take calls for service. So I guess even if you don't prevent people from getting promotions, I definitely don't want to do that. They should be in a position to take calls for service, I would think. Now, if officers are not getting vacation time or whatever, then I think it has another trickle-down effect. You're going to have maybe leaving the department, maybe retiring when they would stay on because morale is going to affect morale. So I think we definitely need to look at this, and we probably, I would make a motion to put this issue in the Public Safety Committee. What is your specific motion? Just to look at a plan for coverage of calls for service. Does that make sense? It's getting close. Okay. So you would like to hear in the public safety committee their plan, the public safety's plan for police coverage? That's a pretty regular occurrence with the police department. and I think you're just wanting to be educated on how it occurs and what the plan is. Well, I guess I see it as getting worse if we don't address it. And I don't want the officers on the streets really burned out and the morale getting low because they can't take any time off. They're in stressful jobs. and so we really need to look at this in committee of how this is going to be addressed. I see it as being a critical factor to get that class in here. Did I hear a second yet? I don't think I did. Okay. Will you log in on your motion and your second, please? Council Member Lane, did you want to speak to the motion? Yes, ma'am. I actually had a question that relates to the motion for the commissioner. Do you maintain some type of a database that shows the number of patrol officers that are available for patrol duty? So it would be helpful if we could have some type of a regular report showing the size of the force so that the Council would have some of an idea if we've lost some retirement or active duty call or some other medical issue so we could keep some of the tabs on where we are in the force because if we see the force is getting understaffed substantially, we need to respond to that as quickly as possible. I think that would be valuable information if you could provide that. Sure. Thank you. Council Member McCord. Thank you, Vice Mayor. As you put this together, this presentation or this information for that committee, would you also include things such as the folks who are being deployed, retirees that are scheduled and so forth? I think what the Council is really asking you for is we want to see the administration's plan in how we're dealing with our police force, the morale of that police force, and where we are with that going throughout the year so that we can best support you all as police and go by the administration's plans. So I appreciate you considering some of those other types of things that give us a here's the roadmap of what the future kind of looks like. And I know, Council, it's going to change fairly dramatically when the administration comes out of the collective bargaining hearings, and that's going to probably be another thing that we need to make sure that as soon as we know how things are going, how that fits into your all's plan and the roadmap that we've got to work with. So I appreciate that. Thank you, Commissioner and Commander. Okay. If I can maybe repeat what I think was your motion, and you corrected if it's incorrect, to place into public safety a staffing report by police. Does that do it? I would say, yes, I was going to say to address vacancies. Okay, we can add that on. A plan to address vacancies. Okay, is there any other comment on the motion? Seeing none, all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? Okay, that motion passes. Thank you very much. Now, where were we? We are on number 9, and did you get to finish reading? Yes, ma'am. We were to vote on the motion to approve the resolutions. Okay. All right. So we're ready to read. We're ready to do a roll call. Yes. to do the roll call. Mr. Martin? Yes. Mr. McCord? Yes. Mr. Myers? Yes. Mr. Stinnett? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Beard? Aye. Mr. Blues? Yes. Ms. Cosby? Yes. Mr. Ellinger? Yes. Mr. Farmer? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Ford? Yes. Ms. Gordon? Aye. Ms. Henson? Yes. Mr. Kay? Yes. And Mr. Lane? Yes. Thank you. Okay, thank you very much. If you'll go ahead and Continue with first reading of resolutions, please. Resolution number 10, a resolution accepting the bid of Task Incorporated establishing a price contract for Greenways Maintenance Supplemental for the Division of Engineering. Number 11, a resolution accepting the bid of Sapphire Cleaning Service, LLC, establishing a price contract for Custodial Services Police Headquarters for the Division of Facilities and Fleet Management. Number 12, a resolution accepting the bids of Bluegrass Uniforms, Bluegrass Fire Equipment, Inc., U.S. Cavalry, Wind Fire Equipment, LLC, and Gals, Inc., and Aramark Company, LLC, establishing price contracts for fire recruit equipment for the Division of Fire and Emergency Services. Number 13, a resolution accepting the bid of Kiesler Police Supply, establishing a price contract for ammunition for the Division of Police. Number 14, a resolution accepting the bids of Ink Spot Incorporated and Uniforms Manufacturing Incorporated, establishing price contracts for uniforms for various departments and divisions. Number 15, a resolution accepting the bids of Municipal Sales Incorporated and Duke's Root Control Incorporated, LLC, establishing price contracts for sewer line chemical root control for the Division of Water Quality. Number 16, a resolution ratifying the probationary civil service appointments of Elizabeth Ashley Johnson, Staff Assistant Senior, Grade 108 N, 12.374 hourly in the Division of Police, effective September 16, 2011. Kevin Wagner, Project Manager, Grade 114 E, 1,587.52 biweekly in the Division of Water Quality, effective September 19, 2011. Irene Gooding, Director of Grants and Special Programs, Grade 121 E, 3,599.84 biweekly in the Division of Grants and Special Programs, effective October 1, 2011. David Smith, Engineering Technician Senior, Grade 113E, 100523.20 biweekly, in the Division of Water Quality, effective September 19, 2011. Donald Mott, Public Service Worker Senior, Grade 107N, 12.050 hourly, in the Division of Water Quality, effective September 19, 2011. Billy Prater, Engineering Technician Principal, Grade 115E, 100796.16 biweekly, in the Division of Water Quality, effective September 19, 2011. James Dennis, Police Analyst, Grade 111N, 17.530 Hourly in the Division of Police, effective September 19, 2011. Ratifying the temporary appointment in the Office of the Urban County Council of Donna Jeanette Williams, Council Administrator, Grade 121E, 2474.96 Bi-Weekly in the Council Office, effective July 12, 2011. Approving Council Leave for Kevin Bolton, Equipment Operator Senior, Grade 109N, in the Division of Waste Management, request 90 days, Council Leave, effective July 28, 2011. Number 17, a resolution authorizing the Division of Human Resources to make a conditional offer to the following. Frank Fierstein, Pastoral Counselor, Grade 113E, 2001.04 biweekly in the Division of Community Corrections, effective upon passage of counsel. Barry Prater, Commodity Marketing Manager, Grade 115E, 10919.76 biweekly in the Division of Waste Management, effective upon passage of counsel. Sharika Hamilton, Zachary Sanders, William Bellamy, Virgil Owings, Scotty Scalf, Ralph McCracken, Nathan Barks, Matthew Crossfield, Matt Schmidt, Mark Erie, Kevin Woodall, Jonathan Evans, Joanna Lowry, Jason Fyfe, Greg Workman, Desmond Duncan, Craig Van Norman, Chad Donahue, Cassie Peters, Carrie Wallace, Bruce Smith, Brian Armstrong, Bradley Baker, Bonnie Robinson, Community Corrections Officer, Grade 110N, 14.340 Hourly, in the Division of Community Corrections, authorizing the beginning of the probationary civil service probationary period upon successful completion of a physical or medical examination as required, effective upon passage of counsel. Authorizing the Division of Human Resources to make a conditional offer to the following. Edward Hale, Equipment Operator Part-Time, Grade 108N, 13.411, hourly in the Division of Youth Services, authorizing the beginning employment upon successful completion of a physical or medical examination as required, effective upon passage of counsel. Number 18, a resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute an agreement with Siemens Healthcare Diagnostics Incorporated, a sole source provider for the purchase of drug testing reagents for the Division of Community Corrections at a cost not to exceed $230,000. Number 19, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute an agreement with Kentucky Humanities Council, $100, Dove Creek Town Home Owners Association, $500, and Lexington Art League $275 for the Office of the Urban County Council at a cost not to exceed the sum stated. Number 20, a resolution of the Urban County Council providing that the deadline to submit a request to the Office of the Mayor for Council Action Blue Sheet Process shall be the close of business on the Tuesday preceding the next work session. Number 21, a resolution authorizing the Division of Emergency Management 911 to obtain support services for its emergency notification system from Dialogic Communications Corporation, DCC, doing business as Cassidian Communications, a sole source provider, at a cost not to exceed $31,329.60, and authorizing the mayor to execute any necessary documents. Number 22, a resolution authorizing the Division of Emergency Management 911 to obtain 911 database management services from AK Associates, Incorporated, a sole source provider, at a cost not to exceed $85,000, and authorizing the mayor to execute any necessary documents. Number 23, a resolution amending Resolution No. 298-2011 changing the contractor from Hayden Construction to Burdette Construction and changing the contract amount from $48,859 to $59,730. Number 24, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute agreements awarding EcoArt grants to Arturo Alonzo Sandoval, $5,000, Blake Snyder Ames, $1,000, Christine Kuhn, $5,000, Chrysalis House Incorporated, $4,500. Columbia Heights Neighborhood Association, $5,000. Friends of the Arboretum, $5,000. Lansdowne Elementary, $3,000. Lexington Art League, $1,200. Lexington Children's Theater, $1,275. Lexington Roots and Heritage Festival, $5,000. Louie Guida, $5,000. Luella Pavey, $4,450. Marco Logsdon, $3,712. Mill Creek Elementary, $1,300. Norrie Hall, $5,000. North Limestone, Neighborhood Association, $4,835, Robert Morgan, $5,000, Sarah Heller, $5,000, Seedleaf Incorporated, $5,000, Sosopromatum Art Foundation, $3,065, Tates Creek High School, $5,000, The Learning Center, Lindley, $5,000, University of Kentucky Research Foundation, $2,390, and Wellington Elementary, $1,300, at a cost not to exceed the sum stated. Number 25, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute a purchase of a service agreement with UK Arboretum to provide water quality related workshops at a cost not to exceed $50,000. Number 26, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute a three-year network services contract with Insight Kentucky Partners 2 LLP for services used by the Division of Fire and Emergency Services to link components of the 800 MHz radio system at an annual cost not to exceed $10,800 in fiscal year 2012 and future fiscal years subject to sufficient funds being appropriated. Number 27, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute an amendment to management agreement with Kentucky Theater Management Group, Inc. for a one-year extension. Number 28, a resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute an amendment to memorandum of agreement with the Kentucky Department for Environmental Protection for extension of the Clean Diesel Grant Project through June 30, 2012, at no cost to the urban county government. Number 29, a resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to accept a grant from the Environmental Protection Agency, which grant funds are in the amount of $200,000 federal funds, are for a brownfields assessment project, the acceptance of which does not obligate the urban county government for the expenditure of funds and authorizing the mayor to transfer unencumbered funds within the grant budget. Number 30, a resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the Irma County Government to execute change order number two to the contract with Clonch Construction, LLC for the Meadows-Northland Arlington Public Improvements Project, subphase 2E, increasing the contract price by the sum of $8,379.10 from $1,022,759 to $1,031,138.10. Number 31, a resolution authorizing the Mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute change order number 3 to the contract with CDP Engineers Incorporated for the West Hickman Trail Project, increasing the contract price by the sum of $17,680 from $138,250 to $155,930. Number 32, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute change order number 2 to the contract with Clonch Construction, LLC, for the West Hickman Trail project, decreasing the contract price by the sum of $7,828.32 from $477,343.40 to $469,515.08. Excuse me. Council members, number 33 is the Humana item, and number 34 is the Marathon Health item. I know that in the room we have representatives from Marathon Health, and we have folks from our HR department and from the administration. and council members have asked for an opportunity to ask questions, make comments, and so now is that opportunity before first reading. So I guess first I would ask if there are comments or questions about the Humana number 33 and are there folks in the room, if there are questions about that, there are folks in the room who can answer them. Councilmember Martin, this is 33, number 33. I guess my question is why we didn't get a presentation a week or two ago, because these are all both significant contracts. And I know I would have liked to have had a little bit more time to sort of chew on this stuff. So I don't know if anybody is able to address that or not. I can kind of address the process issue. We went through an RFP process back in January of last year where we selected a consultant to help us select the TPA and pharmacy and then the wellness program. We selected BIM to help us with that. We put the RFPs out in, I think, early June, got proposals back. I went through a process with three council members that participated in that selection and came to a decision to use Humana again for our TPA. That just all got resolved within the last two to three weeks, and we got a contract negotiated with them. We're trying to get this put through so the contract doesn't expire in January. I'm not sure if that's what you're asking or not. So does this solve our insurance problems, or is that somewhere to come? I think it's a part of it. The on-site health clinic is a big part of this, as well as the pharmacy. We spent about $8 million in pharmacy claims last year. When we get to presenting that solution, we're going to end up saving $1 million to $1.5 million right there. that was one of the main drivers in selecting Humana again was that our claims were not really going to increase. They were going to remain the same, which if we had gone with somebody else, they would have increased. Right. But, you know, I know there was some stuff the afternoon was devoted today for, but that's fairly atypical to have sort of a time set aside during the workday and council members invited to it and then us asked to vote and maybe even second read it the same night. That's pretty fast. Yeah, and the on-site clinics, since that's kind of a new concept for the government, I think that's why we put together that meeting this afternoon to give people an opportunity to come and listen and hear what that was all about. The Humana TPA, that's really, I mean, it's going to be very similar to what we've had in the past as far as administering that. So we budgeted that we need $3.5 million savings in this year. Where are we going to be told or when are we going to be told where that's going to come from? So what part is that here and what part may be something down the road? I think some of that will be addressed with not only the pharmacy, the on-site clinic, but then also the plan design is a key part of that. because really what we negotiated and worked on was getting the TPA, which is going to repay our claims. That's one part of it. The employee contributions is another part of it, and I think that's where you realize some of that savings. My thing, if you just give us a couple weeks' notice that, hey, this is going to be coming up, we're finishing up our things, and this is what it's going to look like, because it's just a little faster than me. I mean, this is a lot to, you know, it feels very fast. I think it's important to remember that we've had a couple, maybe three presentations from our insurance consultants, and they've talked about the strategy and the concepts that we've delivered in our vendor. And that's really the only thing that's new is just the vendor. So that's why we devoted the afternoon to council to come and meet the vendors and ask questions if they had them. I understand that was the middle of the day. We did the best we could for a short period. But I assume there's some point you're going to tell us where you're going to save the 3.5 because that would be. Sure. I think Bridge has probably hit on that a couple times. But that's getting off. Well, Council Member Stenet wanted to answer one of your questions. I have used my... I think it's important, as one of the members of the RFP, along with Council Member Henson and Beer, Mr. Benefits Marketing has made three presentations to us on this issue. They explained to you the process is four RFPs are out right now. These two tonight are a result of two of the four. One being the health insurance vendor selection. This is not the contract. They have to come back to council to approve the contract as we negotiate. So that's where you're going to see potential savings. But the rubber meets the road in the medical on how we design the benefits, and I know that's going to come to council too. Is that not correct, Todd, to approve, or is the administration just going to make a recommendation? So that's where we're going to save money too is the plan design. We haven't got there yet. So this is just selecting the vendor, same way with the marathon. The contracts have to be finalized and negotiated. You have two more RFPs that will be coming. That's the prescription drug benefit you don't see here, as well as the wellness incentive plan. So there's a couple more discussions to be had on those two items. But tonight you're just selecting the medical vendor who we already have. This is not the contract. You'll have another motion to make the contract, and that's the time you can review that as well. Just wanted to give some clarity to it. Thank you, Vice Mayor. You're welcome. Council Member Myers. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I guess, Councilman's Senate, on 33, we're just selecting the vendor but not the contract. But on 34, which I know we haven't gotten to yet, the contract's included. Am I correct? Yeah, they've negotiated that price already, and that's the vendor that won out of the bids. And then again, this process is no different from any RFPs that we all participate in and come to. We made this one a little different because, as Councilman Martin said, the magnitude of it, and that's why we recommended offering the workshop today to give more information because there's other RFPs on here to the docket tonight, and no one's asking questions about those. So we tried to go an extra mile on this one to give more time and more explanation how important it is. But, yes, this one is the contract, too. Okay, and I appreciate that. But I think to Council Member Martin's point, we've got a $3.5 million hole that somewhere along the line, these two and those other two are going to have to fill, supposedly. And so I need to have more information, particularly since I know we're not speaking on number 34 yet, but on 34 we're actually approving the contract amount as well. So I guess let me ask this question. I know Tuesday we're having a presentation. Is that correct? Can somebody move on? Yes, that is correct. It's a presentation from the Chattanooga Human Resources Department. They use the same vendor, same on-site wellness center, and they wanted to just give us a brief update on their perspective about their experience that they've had with Marathon. But I'd be happy to have Briggs come back up and explain to you how the 3.5 gap is being filled. I think he's done that before, but I'm sure he's willing to do it again. Let me ask you, that presentation, is that on 33 or 34 or both on Tuesday? It's on neither. It's just an educational component to the council and to the employee base. I guess whoever you wanted to have come up and speak, I'm inclined to say that Tuesday would be a good time to have a presentation on both of these and bring people up to speed before we vote, even to give it first reading. but I'll turn over to Ms. Jarvis. I was listening to two different conversations, so I apologize. One of the issues with number 33, what we're needing is the ability to start having those discussions and setting the design plans, and that's why we're needing to do that to meet some critical deadlines with open enrollment. So what we're doing with 33 is requesting the ability to start entering those discussions with Humana so we can start designing our plans. And that's what we plan to start doing with Humana on Monday if we get those readings. And I guess my problem with this is that we're getting this this late. You're asking us to brush this through with two readings, I presume, for both of these, right? Yes. And are you telling us that we can't wait another two weeks? That's going to throw the train in the ditch. In order to get things loaded and tested into open enrollment and get everything properly so our employees, because we expect this to be what we refer to as a positive enrollment, where all of our employees will need to come to open enrollment, we need to have those numbers, meaning the premiums, ready on September 30th so we can start testing them and have them ready for the open enrollment that begins in November. because then we have to have our file to Humana by December 1st so that people can have their new cards and their new rates and everything set by January 1. Okay, and here's why that's problematic. Because if it's that important that another week won't wait, then why did you take, and I know it's not you, but why did it take so long to get these here? If you guys selected back in June or July, I think he said, the situation is simple. We keep being crammed at the last minute, asking us to come in here and vote on things that are millions of dollars. We've got a $3.5 million gap that has to be filled. We have no idea how that's going to happen. If it's that critical, then why wasn't this timeline set sooner so that we had time to review this and let the citizens hear this instead of coming down here today and saying, well, we gave you on a Thursday afternoon, time to come down and hear the presentations, and now we want you to come in here tonight and vote twice to pass this through. Part of this process is set up so that the citizens of this community that pay the taxes to do everything we do have an opportunity to weigh in. If we vote this thing through twice tonight, they don't get that opportunity. So to me, I guess I'm hoping someone in this group can explain to us why everybody else got to take as much time as they needed, but now all of a sudden the council, who has to deliberate and vote to approve, gets pushed in a corner and said, okay, we need you to do this tonight. And if you don't do it tonight, then the sky's going to fall in. And I know, Ms. Jarvis, that you're the one that always has to stand up the mic and take all these hits. And you didn't have anything to do with this, more than likely. But whoever wants to answer the question can. But that's what I want to know is why everybody else had all the time in the world, and now here we are today pushing the corner expecting to vote twice on this. Welcome. I'm Briggs Cochran with Benefit Insurance Marketing. Great questions. Hopefully we can offer some clarity. Humanis' function for you all primarily is to reprice claims. Their value proposition is to take a retail health care claim and reprice it with a discount, a lab, a hospital, a doctor, a surgical procedure. Their value proposition is to take a $100 retail claim and discount it down to $50, not balance bill the employee and then submit that $50 claim to LFUCG to pay. So when we evaluated Humana with all the other carriers, our primary concern was to see who has the broadest access to health care, there's the biggest provider panel, and who has the average discount of billed retail charges that would keep your net cost flat. and Humana demonstrated to us that they have the deal strength to reprice claims so that you don't have an upward spike in claims from people consuming health care. So 95% of the money you're spending with Humana is your money. It's self-funded and they're just paying claims costs. Now, we do pay Humana a smaller amount, 5% for purpose of discussion, for administering the claims, to turn on the lights, to negotiate the deals, to keep people having fraud, to provide disease managers, to provide great customer service. And we did achieve substantial results in negotiating with them on flatlining their administration cost. Plus, we were able to, I can use the word leverage, we were able to negotiate with them a reinsurance policy that will protect LFUCG for these outlier, really hot claims. Right now, LFUCG stands on the line to pay 100% of any claim, regardless of what it goes to. With federal health care reform, the new law of the land is you have unlimited health care benefits. You all are self-funded. You don't have any insurance for that right now to protect you against some high outlier claims. This past 12 months, you've had two $700,000 claims. So the other thing that we did with Humana was negotiate very, very competitive reinsurance to protect LFUCG from these high-cost outlier claims. We flatlined their administration costs, and we put them through a very rigorous analysis on the deal strength of their network. And, you know, Humana is not going to, and I'll be blatant with you at the end of the day, they're not going to keep you from having increasing health care costs. Your health care costs are going to continue to increase if you all are very passive and not concentrating on improving the clinical health of your employees. forward-thinking cities, forward-thinking employers, private sector, public, whatever, that are flatlining their cost or reducing their cost, are employers that their number one focus is improving the clinical health of their employees. Humana is going to discount the cost of your claims. The health care providers your employees are using may or may not improve the clinical health of your employees, But all Humana is doing for us is repricing their claims. They're doing it at a great value. They've given us fantastic administration fees. They've given us a great reinsurance policy. And they absolutely represent the best value for you. To Leslie's point, it is somewhat time sensitive. We've got IT issues with your PeopleSoft platform. We've got to build out plan designs. We've got to get ready for open enrollment. We need to talk about the various benefit structures that Humana is putting together. And so it is somewhat time-sensitive. In regard to the solution to improve the clinical health of your employees, Steve Kay has been on every one of those presentations. Julian Beard has been active in that. Kevin Stennett, Peggy. They have all participated in an exhaustive educational process about what that space looks like. Who is out there that can improve the clinical health of our employees? The solution that gains the most traction are ones where employers are delivering health care at the work site. And they're doing that by eliminating all cost barriers to care. When we talk about Marathon Health, we're talking about no deductibles, no coinsurance, and a really heavy emphasis not only on acute and primary care, but prevention and disease management and risk factor reduction. So one of the things that you will hopefully hear next Tuesday will be a presentation by the city of Chattanooga, which has had phenomenal success with on-site pharmacy, on-site wellness vendors, et cetera. So the solutions, Humana, we've got them negotiated on reinsurance, flatline on admin. They're delivering great deal strength on the network. We've got some phenomenal solutions on your prescription benefit manager, which is going to produce some boxcar savings numbers. Marathon Health, their CEO, is here with us tonight, and he can certainly speak a lot more pointed to this subject than I can, but the critical success factor there is we want that to be online January 1. And if this is September 15th and we want to recruit an absolutely world-class clinical team of a medical doctor, two physician's assistants, registered nurse, medical office assistants, and get this thing built out to provide your employees with a phenomenal health care experience, it's going to be very time sensitive. And so I'll be quiet and listen a little bit, but hopefully those explanations might have been a little bit more substantive from a consultant standpoint and maybe gives you confidence in some of the strategies we're trying to push. We think there's great value here. Mr. Myers, did that answer your question? No, actually. Mr. Cochran, thank you very much for your presentation. Your presentation is what I wanted the full council to have. You made the comment that four of us have been through an exhaustive education program. That means 11 of us have not. That's what we're talking about here. So I asked a simple question, and it was, if this is so important, then why are we being crammed into a corner at the last minute asking to give two readings? You didn't answer that question. You gave me all the information that you would give us in a presentation if you were doing one for us, which is really what I'd like to see happen. Right. So with no disrespect to you, I appreciate everything you said. I'm also licensed to sell health insurance. I understand everything you're saying. But 11 of us have not heard any of this until today. That's the problem. So you're probably not the person to answer the question that I asked, but you came up. And I appreciate what you said. But the question still is, why have we waited this long? I mean, if you said that you wanted this online by January 15th and you've got people's office issues and all these different things, then why wasn't that built into the timeline so that this was done before now, so that we didn't get backed into a corner tonight? You know, in terms of the education process, obviously I've been down here to, I think, two other council meetings, which is probably not sufficient for an educational process. But to talk about the strategy. Can I know up here for just a second, please? Yes, sir. You're going back to the other question. The question I have is why are we here today being asked to give two readings for this? Why wasn't the timeline pushed back in a way that we would have more time to understand what we're looking at and evaluate it and have the employees hear the information, the citizens hear the information, before we give two readings to this? That's the question that I have. And that's probably an administration question. Like I said, you're probably not the right person. I think you're off the hook on this question. We're in the trenches pulling as hard as we can based on the timelines. I'll let Leslie or Jamie even answer that from the administration standpoint. I do know, Peggy and Kevin, how did you all get on the committee? Were you sent an invitation? You were able to volunteer? Excuse me. I think that's really probably not pertinent to the discussion, how someone got on the committee. But I wanted to be sure Mr. Myers got his questions answered, and then we have a couple more people. I'm looking for somebody from the administration to answer that question because they're the ones that put the timeline together. The RFP process, which we started really with the selection of BIM back in January, I think it's an exhaustive process, and this is probably the biggest one that we do every three or four years, however long the contract's good for. We went down this road last year about this time, and we decided that we needed to take a step back and just continue on with our existing coverage and try to do a better job of it. I think we did that. I think we found a much better solution, and we're going to reduce our costs. I think also it took a lot longer than we anticipated, especially the selection process. We received RFPs back, I think we got proposals back in June, and it took us until the end of August to actually make vendor selections and then negotiating contracts with them took another month or so, and that's how we are here. I mean, in retrospect, we probably should have started this time last year with RFPs. But, I mean, that's something that you kind of learn as you go along, I think, and I think we've learned from this process this time. My final question, if I could. If we pass 33 tonight, can you do open enrollment without 34? I'll have to defer to Leslie. 34 is where we anticipate gaining, as the question was asked by Council Member Martin, saving that $3 million that we expect to save is not just going to come from one avenue, meaning cutting or raising our premiums. 34 will help us gain a lot of savings. I think the question is, can we go forward with open enrollment if the Council tonight gives first and second reading to 33 only? That's the question. That's the question. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Vice Mayor. You're welcome. Council Member Kay. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I was not on the RFP committee. I was away when that process began. and so I could not serve officially, but I sat in on all but the initial meetings. And I guess I want to talk to a couple of issues. One, the timeline issue. I would agree that it's inappropriate for many things to come to this council in the timeline that they do, and there's a general underlying issue. Earlier this evening, we got a presentation about two projects that are roughly a year behind. So, as a generalization, we've got a timeline problem in government. We don't start early enough, and we don't make reasonable judgment about how long it's going to take to get something done. I would hate to have this particular issue held hostage to that general problem. I agree it needs to be fixed and needs a lot of attention. But again, I think that we have a specific problem facing us, and it's facing us right now. I would separate out 33 and 34. I think the answer about 33 is that it's fairly straightforward. We've had a third-party administrator. We will have another third-party administrator. We went through an RFP process. This is the result. We need to have that negotiated. It needs to be approved. On 34, which is the wellness site, wellness clinic, however you want it, whatever you want to call it, there's a similar concern about timeline if we ought to achieve savings in the coming year. It will take a minimum of three months from the time that we say yes to have this facility in place and to have it staffed appropriately. If we don't have it in place by early January, we begin to not basically benefit from what it has to offer. For those of us who have been through the process, I'll just speak for myself. I'm convinced that it has the potential to save the urban county government money, to save employees money, and to improve the wellness of our employee community. We went through an RFP process. This particular vendor was head and shoulders above anything else that we saw. They offer what I think is a first-class product. And so I would urge council, to get back to my original point, not to put the brakes on these particular issues at this particular time when we need to go forward for a variety of reasons and to address the larger issue of when and how Council gets informed about issues and when we're asked to make decisions. Thank you, Vice Mayor. You're welcome. And still discussing number 33 is Council Member Beard. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Um, Briggs, when was the decision to engage Marathon? Because you made a comment that I went along with it, and I didn't know Marathon existed until sometime today. Yeah, I didn't mean to infer if I said something about that. But, you know, Todd would probably be able to call out those timelines better. I know the RFP went out. They were scored. We had three finalist interviews. The marathon had the greatest value proposition. I think that was sometime around August, early August maybe. And I don't argue with any of that at all. It's just a matter, again, of process. If you remember, I was suffering bronchial pneumonia for three straight days and had to actually walk out when we were only an hour into it. Right. And I've got no problem with mynathomia. and what I've heard, I do want to point out that if we're going to save $3.5 million, somebody's going to have to get $4,800,000 out of it because it's going to cost us $1,370,000 to pay Marathon for doing this. The other point, I guess, is if we were to give you two readings tonight, Why bother having the people from Chattanooga come up here? It's a done deal. We're through. Why are we even listening to anybody from Chattanooga? We've been hearing about Chattanooga now for two months, and nobody seemed to push to get them up here any sooner. And now we're going to... Well, first of all, I think it's human resources that's coming up here. I think they're going to have an interesting perspective from an employee perspective about the quality, the confidentiality, the cost, the experience. So I think it's part of that ongoing communication campaign of starting to broadcast the value of what LFUCG is getting ready to do. and we've got a continual communication campaign and a timeline to run that as well, and that's one of those components. But I think, again, from experience, it's going to be a very informative presentation that I think would help you gain additional confidence in the concept, in the strategy, I should say. I've got no problem with the concept myself, personally. It makes a lot of sense, and it's a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned. Maybe the employee base in and of itself might want to watch this on GTV. Absolutely. You don't need to convince me. This is a process problem that we're talking about. It isn't specifically about Marathon. The first thing that pops into my mind is Marathon World Company. Right. Well, we're going to brand this, you know, and that's another part of the communication process. How do we brand the wellness center specifically to LFUCG? You know, Marathon is going to be way under the radar screen. This is your all's wellness center. Just one other clarifying comment while I'm here. You know, the health care delivery system that your employees are currently participating in is going to remain there. That's what the value that Humana is going to provide for the heart attacks and the cancers and the new babies and diseases and hospitalization. We've still got to have that. What we're going to do is we're going to enhance that benefit through the Marathon health care delivery system that will be branded to you all. So I think there's some employee confusion about, is this going to be our new health care? No. I think you're right. And again, I just want you to understand that you're preaching to the choir as far as I'm concerned. But at the same time, well, I really hate for us to reach this point in a council meeting and have to go through the process of communicating to everyone out there that something slipped through the cracks or we could have done this two weeks ago, whatever. The process has been flawed, and we'd like to fix that. Thank you. Thank you, Vice Mayor. You're welcome, Council Member Henson. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I just wanted to point out a few things as far as the timeline. I think one of the best things that has occurred is for us to contract with Briggs's firm, the benefits insurance marketing, because they're experts in the field. They know all the ins and outs, how they can look at our data and say where we are and come up with the best plan that would work for us. The administration took over January 1, if I'm not mistaken. We had an incredible budget to go through. And we also, in addition, Briggs and his staff had to get a handle on where we were as far as our insurance, medical, and so forth. We spent in the RFP 25 hours, I think it was, which was a lot of fun. Very exciting. But I learned a lot, and I truly believe in the concept of the Wellness Center. Now, I don't think item 33 is any different than the process we go through every year for health insurance, correct? Correct. So I would say go ahead and give 33. I'd be in favor of giving it a second reading. and since the wellness center and all that is such a new concept, get the presentation in order, educate people better on that, and then we'll get it a second reading in two weeks. But I just wanted to put all that out there as far as the time frame, and we knew, I think the administration knew, this council knew coming in that our health care, we have several things that are broken that need to be corrected. And thankfully, with Briggs and his staff, I think we are getting a good handle on where we are with that. Thank you. Council Member Martin. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I agree with Council Member Henson and Council Member Kay. I think this is a process issue, and I just want to make sure I agree with the direction of this. I agree with the wellness, and I understand that we've used you, man, in the past. And, you know, when I came on council, they said, well, it's just like drinking water through a fire hose, and sometimes the fire hose just gets going too fast. So I think I agree with Council Member Henson. I'm willing to second read the number 33 if and when that comes up. And 34, that's not going to cause irreparable harm to wait two weeks on that so we can sort of absorb it more. But, you know, I read things over the weekends, and, you know, sometimes during the weeks I can't get between my day and council and absorb a packet of something. I need to do that before the council day to do that. So I think what I'm hearing is we all just need a little bit more time to absorb some of this stuff and to sort of catch up. And I trust the council members who spend so much time, and I appreciate them doing that. And so I think we all just need to sort of catch up with where they are. Thank you, Vice Mayor. You're welcome. Council Member Stennett. Thank you, Vice Mayor. And I do share, you know, Council Member, some of the frustration about this issue. I mean, it's been going on in government for decades now that we haven't corrected this problem until now. But keep in mind that Mr. Crockman was here July 12th to give us a presentation and a timeline at that point. He said September we would be having the RFPs to council. As soon as we came back from break, August meeting, he was here and said we'd have them in September. The selection committee made the final presentation on August 16th as a group, and we couldn't go public with it until they negotiated contracts. That's part of the RFP process. So I don't think there was any intent to rush it or push it on the council tonight. I do agree with the issue on 34 is do we want a wellness center? Because who is really going to benefit here, and they're not all in this room, but it's our employees. That's who's going to see the cost savings in their pockets when they go home at night. They don't have to pay extra money to go get to see a doctor or for medicines down the road. That's who it's for, and that's who we should be keeping in mind when we're making this decision tonight. Because if you want the RFPs, there was 2,000 pages. It was on a disc. We couldn't even pass out the print copies. That's how much information there was to go through. It's a difficult process, and I'm not sure. I guess I'm trying to get to the bottom on number 34. Council Member Martin asked, is it a critical one tonight that we discuss whether or not to have a second reading? But even more so is what information do we need to present back to council, I guess, for my colleagues? Do you need to see? Do you want to see all the RFPs? Is that what we're looking at? Is Marathon the best? Or are we looking at do we really need a wellness center? I mean, is that the main issue? I think we need to give some feedback so we know exactly what type of presentation so we can make an educated decision as soon as possible. Because getting this up and running is going to be tough even at this point. Again, it's to benefit our employees. So I'll just throw that out there. Leslie, you want to answer that first question on the critical need on 34? I believe 34 for two reads is very critical because we need to, in educating our employees and preparing for this, we have been preparing them and they understand that there is going to be changes that happen to their plan designs because of the financial situation. With those changes come a lot of uncertainty and nervousness based on what does that do to their personal finances. 34, the importance of that is when you say this is maybe what happens to your premiums, but we're going to provide you an option for quality medical care that will not come out of your pocket, that makes the angst of seeing what's going to happen to the premium and the extra that may potentially come out of their pocket, that eases that burden. And that's why I think it's very, very important to be able to show both of those at the same time. I guess just to clarify, so if 34 didn't get second reading until the 29th of this month, you would not be able to show them at the same time? Is that what you're saying? We have been asked from an IT that people saw to give them the new premiums on the 30th. So if we got the second reading on the 29th, we want to, the goal is to bring some of the employees into the process of looking at how we design our plans to give some input in how those plans will be designed. So if 33 gets two readings tonight, 34 gets second reading the 29th, can you go forward is the question I think. I would rather not release the premiums to the employees without the assurance that 34 is in place so that they know that there is that potential for them to have in their savings. Okay. And, Councilmembers, I hope it's okay to use a little leeway with speaking more than twice here because we have a couple more Councilmembers. Councilmember Myers. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I guess a couple things. Councilman Smith asked for a little bit of clarification, and I think I'd go back to Mr. Cochran made a statement earlier that some of the employees are getting confused and have concerns about whether or not Marathon is replacing their health care. That's why I brought this up today, because if we'd had this education piece before we were asked to vote on this, there'd be no confusion among our employees. So, and I guess I have a question for Ms. Jarvis. earlier I asked you clearly if we separated these two out, we gave second reading to and we went on with 33 and didn't give second reading to 34 you said it wasn't a problem. Now suddenly you come up to the microphone and say it is going to be a problem. No, let me clarify. What the question was is can we separate them? Yes. We can give two readings to number 33 and start working with Humana to design our plans. What I'm meaning by where I think the issue is if we separate them is once we educate our employees on the premiums, if there are changes to those premiums, to the co-pays and so forth, it makes that angst a little easier for them to deal with if we can show them, here's what we're getting ready to offer you, a medical facility where there will be no co-pays, where you can get quality medical care for your primary and acute care that will not cost you a co-pay, that will be available to you. So, yes, we can do 33 on its own, but I believe 34 added to that will help relieve the stress that our employees are feeling when we show them what option we're going to provide to them to deal with the changes in their plans. I think for most people that have spoken up here tonight, none of us that have spoken so far have raised an issue with Marathon or the work that they're proposed to do. Everybody's talking about the process. If you can do open enrollment, I mean, everybody knows a change is coming. So just saying that, being able to tell the employees that you're going to be able to go to this clinic for free and all these different things, that doesn't change anything. So I have a difficulty. There are some questions about not Marathon necessarily or what they're going to do, but I wonder if everybody knows that retirees are all going to be included in what Marathon does. And, you know, there's questions about, at least I have some questions about the contract aspect of it and that $1.37 million and how that was arrived at. So normally the council doesn't give second reading to something that has a budgetary impact. So actually I would ask even how it is that we could give second reading to this in the first place, which is a question for law. But normally we can't. If it has a schedule, we can't give a second reading. This doesn't have a schedule number to it, but it has a budgetary. Because the funds are budgeted, it doesn't matter? I mean, because the reason that we do that as a government is so that the citizens can intervene and have their say before we spend money. So if we're going to spend $1.4 million without anybody understanding what we're doing, I'm not sure that's the wisest move to make either. So if you can do open enrollment without giving second meeting to $34, that's going to be what I'd like to see happen. But as far as what Councilman or Senate asked in terms of information, I think we don't want to see 2,000 pages of RFPs. We want the other 11 who didn't get to sit through 25 hours of training and our employees to understand what it is that Marathon's going to be doing. And I'm not sure that we have to give a second reading to it before we can explain to them what, in concept, this health care center is going to do. And I would like to add with 34, if I may, with the Marathon contract, once we have that contract in place, there is an educational process that's built into that cost so that there would be a lot of education that Marathon would be assisting us with so that employees do understand that what that's covering is a doctor, is RNs, is, you know. So there will be a big piece with that that Marathon would assist with once we have a contract. So you're saying it's like D.C., pass it, and then we'll hear what's in it. So you're saying just go ahead and give a second reading, and then the employees will learn what's in there. There's no way they can learn what's in there before we give a second reading. In building this health care delivery system, it was never the intention to educate the employees prior to the selection of the vendor. You know, as we build out this health care center, now is the time to start educating employees. It was never intended prior to the date to start educating the employees on it. Our intent was to educate council and other leadership within LFUCG. Going forward, we have a robust communication campaign. In fact, part of our campaign is to do a communication audit of LFUCG and all the different departments to understand how different people are communicated with and how they like to receive information and what is the highest impact and what makes them retain the most knowledge about it. So we're getting ready to conduct a communication audit with Marathon Health, with all the departments, to figure out how we can roll this out and get the highest impact. But the employee piece was never there. And just one other statement of correction. I spoke about the confusion with employees between this is a voluntary plan from a frame of reference as a consultant universally, not necessarily for LFUCG. I do know part of the communication campaign that you will run into is that question. And I can tell you that I had employees come to me today that said, don't vote to pass this. So there are our employees that have those concerns. And we haven't communicated to them yet. Secondly, I would say this. I represent other people. So if you tell me that your goal is to educate me before the fact, but everybody else gets educated after I vote on something, I don't have anything to explain to my constituents when they ask me what I'm voting on. So the reason why we're here and we're a representative form of government is that we get information, we provide that to the people we represent before we take our votes. Right. Thank you. Council Member Kay. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I'm looking for a middle ground, as I often do, and I wonder if it would be appropriate to use Tuesday's meeting, And we will have people from Chattanooga here as an opportunity for council to be informed about the details of how this has worked elsewhere, as well as what's proposed for our employees, and to have, I don't know if it's appropriate to make a motion, but have a second read on Tuesday after that meeting. I would hate to see this delayed two weeks, but I can imagine it delayed by five days. And we might be able to make that work. So a motion? I'm sorry. A special meeting on Tuesday. Special council meeting. Thank you. Move to have a special council meeting on Tuesday. Do I need to specify? Three o'clock. Three o'clock. Thank you. Before work session. Before work session. Second. And do you want to specify? Yeah, to address the informing council about the way in which this wellness center would be implemented, get more information about that, and to potentially take a second read on the item before us. Okay. Does your motion include, you mentioned getting information. Now, Chattanooga is one experience. Are you wanting to have the consultants here? Well, they're here. I don't know if they were planning to be back. If that's possible, it would be great. If it's not possible, I think that we would ask the consultants to use their slide presentation, and those of us who've been in on the process will be able to weigh in on that as well. Jamie, Mr. Emmons. I don't believe they've been scheduled to come back on Tuesday. I don't know whether it's possible or not. But they're here tonight if you have questions about the contract itself, and I'm sure they'd be happy to come up right now. We have a motion on the floor right now to call a special council meeting at 3 o'clock on Tuesday before the work session to give second reading to number 34, although this hasn't had first reading yet. this is a little bit out of the order and to hear I think your motion included and to hear from the Chattanooga folks as to their experience yes is there discussion on the motion and Ms. Crosby, Council Member Crosby is on the list, do you want to discuss the motion? No, that was prior to the motion I'm going to remove my name, I was just getting ready to do things okay, any discussion? Councilmember Beard. Just one point, and that is the sequencing of things. If, in fact, we're going to pass it before or after Chattanooga has the opportunity to... I think the idea would be to hear from the Chattanooga folks first and then have second reading. That makes sense. That makes sense. Everybody's understanding. So, help me with the timing on the thing. Then we would have our meeting before 3 o'clock. Okay, this is like the mayor's proposed budget. It's like the state of the merged government. It's like other special meetings on Tuesdays. We have the special meeting first at 3 o'clock, followed immediately by the work session. When do we hear from the motion? from the Chattanooga folks as to their experience and then to have the second reading of number 34. Correct? That's what I wanted to hear. Okay. Now, is there any other discussion of the motion? Now's the time. No. All right. All those in favor of setting a special council meeting September 20th at 3 o'clock to hear from Chattanooga and then to hear second reading of number 34, please say aye. Aye. All those opposed? Okay, that motion passes. All right. Council Member Crosby, did you want to speak? No. Okay. Is there any other comment before we have first reading of number 33 and number 34? As well as everything else. Okay. Okay. If our clerk will proceed. Resolution number 33, a resolution of the Urban County Council authorizing the selection of Humana Insurance Company as the third-party administrator for the health insurance plans for the period beginning January 1, 2012 through December 31, 2012, and authorizing the administration to finalize contract negotiations. Number 34, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute an agreement with Marathon Health, Incorporated to provide employees with certain preventative wellness and disease management health consultation and or primary care services at a cost not to exceed $1,370,886. Number 35, a resolution authorizing the Division of Human Resources to internally advertise for vacant positions if requested by the Division Director from the date of passage of this resolution through December 31, 2011 and authorizing the Division of Human Resources to advertise externally if a qualified internal applicant pool does not exist within the first week of any internal advertisement. Number 36, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute a facility usage contract with the Fayette County Board of Education for use of the Henry Clay High School track at a cost not to exceed $78.60. Number 37, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute an interlocal cooperation agreement with the Jessamine County, Kentucky Sheriff for Fayette County Division of Police, full police powers in portions of Jessamine County where the Urban County Government owns property, i.e. Veterans Park and West Hickman Treatment Plant. Number 38, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute a memorandum of understanding with the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation for the Financial Crimes Task Force. Number 39, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Irving County Government to execute an agreement with the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation for reimbursement of certain division of police expenses. Number 40, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Irving County Government to execute a facility lease agreement with the Kentucky Horse Park for the Mountain Police Colloquium. Number 41, a resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the Irving County Government to execute a memorandum of agreement with Ray Sabatini for Mr. Sabatini to serve as interim director of the Division of Community Corrections at a cost not to exceed $112,900. Number 42, a resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the Irving County Government to execute a sales agreement with Horizon Information Systems, Inc. for the purchase of software for the representative payee program for the Department of Social Services at a cost not to exceed $5,552.50. Number 43, a resolution authorizing the Mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute change order number 2, final, to the contract with Hall Contracting Corporation for South Elkhorn Pump Station Improvements for the Division of Water Quality, increasing the contract price by the sum of $82,037.33 from $3,842,000 to $3,952,024.33. Number 44, a resolution authorizing the Mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute change order number one, final to the contract with Gooch Construction Company for the Della Drive Stormwater Pipe Relocation Project, increasing the contract price by the sum of $12,678.28 from $94,422 to $107,100.28. Number 45, a resolution authorizing the Mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute change order number one to the contract with Ken Virens, Inc. for the Dixie Pump Station Upgrade and Force Main Improvements Project, increasing the contract price by the sum of $11,021.39 from $30,730 to $41,751.39. And number 46, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Irving County Government to execute change order number one final to the contract with Gooch Construction, Inc. for the Trinity Road-Wellington Way Stormwater Project, increasing the contract price by the sum of $3,620 from $82,970 to $86,590. Before we take motions for suspending the rules, are there any motions to walk on? If not, I'd like to turn the chair over to Council Member Ellinger. Vice Mayor. I move to place on tonight's docket a resolution requesting that the Lexington Fayette County Planning Commission, consider appointing Will Berkley Jr. as a member. Second. We have a motion by Vice Mayor and a second by Council Member Myers. Any discussion? All in favor, say aye. Aye. All is opposed. That passes. Vice Mayor. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Ellinger. Now, are there any motions for suspending the rules on first reading of resolutions? Vice Mayor, should we give first reading to that resolution? Oh, yes, I think we should. Thank you. I'm so glad you're here. It will be number 47, a resolution requesting that the Lexington-Fayette County Planning Commission consider appointing Will Berkeley as a member. Thank you very much. Now, are there motions to suspend the rules? Councilmember McCord. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I want to go ahead and ask for a second reading on number 20 so that we can move away from some of the confusion we had with blue sheeting. and then number 24 to go ahead and get these NDF funds out to these folks. Okay. Is there a second? And are there others? I'm sorry. Council Member Blues. I'd like to add number 33. And Council Member Crosby. I'd like to add number 47 since we missed a deadline. Let's go ahead and just get that taken care of. Thank you. Okay. Motion in a second. Is there anything else to add to the motion? Vice Mayor? Pardon me? Can I do the second readings on behalf of the administration? Yes, please. Thank you. The first one is number 17. It is the resolution authorizing us to make the conditional offer, so that we can send these potential employees to have their physicals and medical exams. The second one is number 28. The Department of Environmental Protection has requested that we get this memorandum back to them as soon as possible. Number 41. The current short-term contract is set to expire on September the 27th, And so that would be prior to when we could get second reading on this one. And that is it. Okay. Are there any others? Okay. Just to review, we have a motion and a second to give second reading to number 17, number 20 number 24 number 28 number 33 number 41 and number 47 did that catch everything? Point of order, Vice Mayor. The request by the administration for a second reading is not really a motion so I think a council member has to make a motion and second for the request from the administration. Thank you. Do you want to do that? I was just pointing it out. Okay. I make a motion that we accept the recommendations of the administration for second reading. And with the first group. Thank you. And we have second by Council Member Ellinger. Thank you for reminding us about that. Any others? Okay. Okay, there's a question on one before we vote on the suspension of the rules. Okay, Mr. Farmer. Tell me again about number 41. You're saying that the current, what did you say? The current short-term agreement is so short it's over. It expires prior to the next council meeting where we could get second reading on this resolution. Okay, then I need to hark back to, I guess, Tuesday's conversation. or maybe I don't remember if there was a question about this on Tuesday or not. A year is my question. Correct. Number 41 is a one-year contract. However, we do have a termination clause in there that would allow us to terminate this agreement prior to a year. Clay Mason, I saw you get up and come this way, Commissioner. That was preemptive movement. Sorry. So why is it going to take so long? Or why potentially is it going to take a year to fill this position? We want to ensure we have time. Excuse me. I'm so sorry. Our parliamentarian wants to rule on the discussion that's going on right now. Well, I want to get to that conversation, but there's a motion on the floor to suspend the rules. So we need to dispose of that, and the proper way would be to amend the motion to exclude 41 so we can have that conversation tonight. I would so move, Vice Mayor. Okay. We have a motion by Council Member Farmer and a second by Council Member McCord to amend the motion on the floor to suspend the rules on everything that was mentioned but not 41. Okay. Any discussion? You need a second? No, I have a second, Council Member McCord. So this is a motion to amend. All but 41. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? So then the motion on the floor becomes to suspend the rules on everything that was mentioned except for 41. So that's the motion on the floor. So now? Any other discussion? We need to vote to suspend the rules first on all those other items. Any other discussion? Council Member Beard, did you want to comment on the current motion? No, not the current motion. Okay. And Council Member Lane, not yet. Okay. All those in favor of suspending the rules on, I'll just repeat them, 17, 20, 24, 28, 33, and 47, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? Now, do we have a motion related? Yes, you do need to give a second reading, and then we can deal with number 41 later. Resolution number. Do we need a motion to approve? No moved. Second. After the one says yes, yes. They both say yes. Okay. We had a motion by Mr. Ellinger and a second by Mr. Myers to approve these. After they're run. Yes. After they're run. Resolution number 17. A resolution authorizing the Division of Human Resources to make a conditional offer to the following. Frank Firestein, Pastoral Counselor, Grade 113E, 2001.04 biweekly in the Division of Community Corrections, effective upon passage of counsel. Barry Prater, Commodity Marketing Manager, Grade 115E, 10919.76 biweekly in the Division of Waste Management, effective upon passage of counsel. Sharika Hamilton, Zachary Sanders, William Bellamy, Virgil Owings, Scotty Scalf, Ralph McCracken, Nathan Barks, Matthew Crossfield, Matt Schmidt, Mark Erie, Kevin Woodall, Jonathan Evans, Joanna Lowry, Jason Fife, Greg Workman, Desmond Duncan, Craig Van Norman, Chad Donahue, Cassie Peters, Carrie Wallace, Bruce Smith, Brian Armstrong, Bradley Baker, Bonnie Robinson, Community Corrections Officer, Grade 110N, 14.340 hourly in the Division of Community Corrections, authorizing the beginning of the probationary civil service probationary period upon successful completion of a physical or medical examination as required, effective upon passage of counsel. Authorizing the Division of Human Resources to make a conditional offer to the following. Edward Hale, Equipment Operator Part-Time, Grade 108N, 13.411, hourly in the Division of Youth Services, authorizing the beginning employment upon successful completion of a physical or medical examination as required, effective upon passage of counsel. Resolution number 20, a resolution of the Urban County Council providing that the deadline to submit a request to the Office of the Mayor for Council action, blue sheet process, shall be the close of business on the Tuesday preceding the next work session. Number 24. Lexington Roots and Heritage Festival, $5,000. Louie Guida, $5,000. Luella Pavey, $4,450. Marco Logsdon, $3,712. Mill Creek Elementary, $1,300. Norrie Hall, $5,000. North Limestone Neighborhood Association, $4,835. Robert Morgan, $5,000. Sarah Heller, $5,000. Seedleaf Incorporated, $5,000. Ciso Prometum Art Foundation, $3,065. Tates Creek High School, $5,000. The Learning Center Lindley, $5,000. University of Kentucky Research Foundation, $2,390. And Wellington Elementary, $1,300 at a cost not to exceed the sums stated. Number 28. A resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute an amendment to memorandum of agreement with the Kentucky Department for Environmental Protection for extension of the Clean Diesel Grant Project through June 30, 2012, at no cost to the Urban County Government. Number 33, a resolution of the Urban County Council authorizing the selection of Humana Insurance Company as the third-party administrator for the health insurance plans for the period beginning January 1, 2012 through December 31, 2012, and authorizing the administration to finalize contract negotiations. And number 47, a resolution requesting that the Lexington-Fayette County Planning Commission consider appointing Will Berkeley as a member. Approve. Second. Thank you. Will you take the vote? Who was the seconder, please? Second was? I second. You seconded. Council Member Ellinger seconded. And Council Member Farmer motioned. Okay, Mr. Martin? Yes. Mr. McCord? Yes. Mr. Myers? Yes. Mr. Stennett? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Beard? Aye. Mr. Blues? Yes. Ms. Crosby? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Ellinger? Yes. Mr. Farmer? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Ford? Yes. Ms. Gordon? Aye. Ms. Henson? Yes. Mr. Kay? Yes. And Mr. Lane? Yes. Thank you. Now, there were folks on to speak before, and so if you need to speak back on number 41 or, and Mr. Farmer does. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I appreciate the parliamentary procedure we went through to have a conversation tonight, and it's not my intent to delay this so that the short-term agreement runs out. But I feel like from the discussion that we just had where everything was jammed into the last possible moment, this is something that, if you take this on its surface, it would mean that it would take us potentially a year to fill the top or the vacant position at the corrections facility. We're giving ourselves the flexibility to have time for Mr. Sabatini to be there to deal with a number of different problems. And we're giving a presentation next Tuesday about some of the progress that we're making. This progress will help determine what the timeline is on finding a permanent director. and we would like to have that flexibility by this contract, which is terminable at will, that we can work with him. We're spending a great deal of time out there now looking at some of these issues that have come up, some of which are more complex than we originally recognized. So we're just wanting to have the flexibility to have the time we need to better evaluate, to see what some of the issues are, to solve some of the issues before the new person comes in and do it that way. Now, when he was here, I thought that I heard him kind of intone that he really only wanted to do this for about six months. It may only take six months. This just gives us the flexibility without having to come back and do it again. Well, then looking at it another way, is it cheaper? Which way is cheaper, to have him as our consultant or have him as our interim director? It's the same amount. It's cheaper than hiring a full director because the amount we're paying him is going to be cheaper than bringing somebody on with benefits for this level of position. Okay. Council Member Beard. Thank you, Vice Mayor. On the same subject, Commissioner, Again, should we not amend this so it says one year as opposed to, as it's written here, it looks like it's open-ended. Because there's an underlying document, which is the contract, and it says that it is one year, we're fine. But if you all would feel more comfortable having the time frame in the title, we can do that. What we saw Tuesday did have, and then it disappeared. So I would think that that might be the best thing to do. I would like to make a motion that we amend number 41 to insert one-year duration. In the title? In the title, yes. Do I hear a second? Okay. If I understood correctly, in this underlying documentation, blue sheet, et cetera, whatever, it says one year. In this title of the resolution, it does not say the one year, but it's included in the resolution. So you're asking to put it in the title, which this is the title. Do I hear a second? Okay. Okay. We have a second from Council Member Crosby to insert the one year into the title. Any discussion? Council Member Stenner. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Council Member Beard, I appreciate the spirit of what you're trying to accomplish, but I think that's just the issue that some of us have with 41 is the one year. I think Commissioner Mason is doing a valiant job for the administration to ask for flexibility, but I think at the end of the day, It's this council's responsibility to determine what type of flexibility we allow on issues such as contracts and hiring an intern director in a situation that's very volatile and needs consistency as soon as possible. So I would be more inclined, Commissioner, to allow six months, as Mr. Sabatini said himself, six months to a year, and you come back in six months and say, we need more time, because I think that's a better way of operating. I think after tonight we need to get on the ball and find a permanent director, because there's nothing that place needs more than consistency on a long-term basis. So I won't support this motion because I think time is the difficult piece for me. Well, I have no problem with that. I just wanted to see it. When we saw it Tuesday, it had the one year in there, and then we see it tonight, and it doesn't. And it just... Are you withdrawing your motion? I will withdraw my motion. Did the seconder withdraw the second? Yeah. Okay, so there's no motion on the floor. Council Member Lane. I'm sorry, were you not finished? Council Member Stenet wasn't quite finished. I was finished on the motion on that issue. I was on the list, but I can wait. I'll go ahead. I'll wait. I don't want to steal your thunder, but I was going to make a motion to reduce the contract term to six months. And the only reason I say that, I don't want to be redundant here, but Mr. Sabatini was here. He clearly stated he didn't want to be there on term. CAO Maloney told me specifically that Mr. Sabatini was an interim jailer. We were going to recruit somebody of high quality. And I believe that Mr. Mason also said the same thing. So I think giving six more months, and then if you need more time, you can come back and we can talk about extending that. So that is my motion. Your motion is to amend number 41 to include six months to replace one year. Is there a second? Second. Council Member Farmer seconds. Is there a discussion? Excuse me, Mr. Stenet, did you want to say something to me? Council Member, did you want to speak? Oh, Council Member Crosby. To the motion? Okay. Council Member Stennett. I'll add, make an amendment to that motion and reduce the pay by the proportionate amount so that he doesn't get the 112 for six months, because that's what it currently says now. We would reduce that in half as well. Thank you, Mr. Farmer. So there's been an amendment, a motion and a second to amend to cut that pay in half, to go with the six months. Okay. Okay, the amendment is on the floor. Council Member Crosby. Well, I just had a question because Commissioner Mason mentioned that it costs less for us to have him in there doing this position than hiring somebody else, but he's making the same amount of money as our past director. No benefits? Okay, thank you. So he's not receiving benefits? Okay. Okay, any other questions on the amendment? The contract does have an amount per pay period. Okay. So it's not the – does that take care of your situation, Council Member Stenner? Well, the memo we received on Tuesday actually states an annual salary. So I was just going to cut the $112,900 in half. But I just want to let you be consistent with what we were given on Tuesday. Okay. Thank you for both clarifications. Is there anything else? If not, all those in favor of the amendment say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? Now, the motion on the floor is for number 41. And will this require a new first reading? Yes. And I also have a question for you all. So do you want the title to include the length of the contract? I think that was the intent. Okay. Yes. And so the motion on the floor is to approve the resolution, excuse me, for number 41 to show six months and half the salary which is mentioned. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Anybody opposed? Now, can you go ahead and give that first reading? Okay. Number 41, as amended for new first reading, a resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute a six-month memorandum of agreement with Ray Sabatini for Mr. Sabatini to serve as interim director of the Division of Community Corrections at a cost not to exceed $56,450. Okay. Thank you very much. Now, are there any other motions? Mr. Farmer. I would like to suspend the rules and give a second reading to the amended number 41. Okay. And Mr. Lane seconds the motions to suspend the rules and give second reading to number 41 as read. Any discussion? All those in favor of suspending the rules say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? All right. We need a motion to approve, and then you'll read. Read, and then read motion. Okay. Thank you. A resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute a six-month memorandum of agreement with Ray Sabatini for Mr. Sabatini to serve as interim director of the Division of Community Corrections at a cost not to exceed $56,450. Thank you. Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Council Member Kay seconds. Council Member Ellinger moves. Will you take the vote on number 41? Mr. Martin? Yes. Mr. McCord? Yes. Mr. Myers? Yes. Mr. Stinnett? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Beard? Aye. Mr. Blues? Yes. Ms. Crosby? Yes. Mr. Ellinger? Yes. Mr. Farmer? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Ford? Yes. Ms. Gordon? Aye. Ms. Henson? Yes. Mr. Kay? Yes. And Mr. Lane? Yes. Thank you. Okay, that motion passes 14-0. Do I hear a motion on communications from the mayor? Move approval. Second. Council Member Farmer moves and Council Member Lane seconds to approve communications from the mayor. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? Okay, the number nine, communications from the mayor, is for information only. Do Council members have any announcements? If you'll log in if you have an announcement. Council Member McCord. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Just very quickly, Brian Rogers from our Parks and Rec Department has spearheaded something that we just wanted the community to know, that in Sheepside Park through the month of September on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursdays, there is basically open fitness and wellness opportunities for everybody on Tuesday at 6.30 a.m. There's a fitness class taught by Jonathan Mizek. Wednesdays, there's fitness lectures at noon and nutrition and wellness seminars on Thursday from 12 to 1.30. There's yoga in the park. So, again, just want to let folks know that at Cheapside Park, there's opportunities to come out and exercise that are for free and for our benefit. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Ford. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Members of the council have some announcements I would like to make about some future meetings. As many of you guys know, I serve on your behalf as the chair of the Charles Young Center Redevelopment Task Force. We have four additional meetings scheduled. Those meetings will be September 21st, October 5th, October 12th, and October 19th. I always state that those future meetings will be Wednesday, September 21st, October 5th, October 12th, and October 19th at 5.30 at the Charles Young Community Center. That's the future announcement I share with the council. I'd also like to take a look back and share some news with the council that you guys may or may not be aware of. We had a community forum that was scheduled on Wednesday, September 7th at the Charles Young Community Center. we did not have that meeting at the Charles Young Community Center as scheduled. And I'm very upset about that. We had about 100 community members to convene at the center, and we were locked out. I won't beat around the bush. We were locked out of the center and were not able to have our meetings there. I'd like to ask CAO Maloney if he would come up to the podium for just a second. and I want to thank him for his presence and support being there. Council Member Henson serves on this task force that you guys appointed, allowed us to serve in January. Council Member Kay also serves on the task force. Just a little background, and I'm going to ask for your assistance and leadership in helping us move forward. The meeting on the 7th was our 10th meeting, and we've had good community support thus far. and we did a very good job I think of publicizing the meeting at Charles Young Center. This was our second community forum there. And it's unacceptable that the Division of Parks and Recreation did not have the facility ready for us to come and have our meeting there. It's unacceptable. And I'm going to ask the council's help in getting some accountability on this issue. If you recall last Wednesday, we were in a period of some bad weather. The sun didn't shine for a week. And so not only were we locked out, we were standing in the rain. A hundred of my constituents, a hundred of your constituents, our residents, were standing in the rain. And Richard, I'm not going to hold you long. I just want to give you the opportunity to chime in here. The meeting was scheduled to begin at 5.30. I arrived at 5 o'clock. Unfortunately, I was not the first person there. The first person there was a senior citizen. And I saw her get out of her cab, a yellow cab that parked right in front of the center at 5 o'clock. And I was upset with myself that I was not at the stairs when she was there. I had no idea as I walked to the front door that we were not going to be able to get into the center. the good news is that we did have a very productive community forum and for that I want to thank the Shiloh Baptist Church and Reverend Joseph Owens and his members for rescuing us that evening and allowing us in the center I say all that to say is that damage has been done even though we had a good meeting that night it's unacceptable for something so important to my district and to the community in general to be taken in so little disregard by a Division of Parks and Rec. Richard showed up and Richard came to the church in support of us, but the Division of Parks and Recreation displayed what has in my community long been believed to be insensitivity and just a record of disregard for what's important to us, which is the Charles Young Community Center. I'm asking, and I have a letter that I'm going to share with Mayor Gray, and I spoke to the mayor that night, and I spoke to Richard. And simply in this letter, I'm asking for a commitment from General Services and Parks and Recreation to have the facility accessible on the four dates that I aforementioned. I'm also going to ask that a formal letter of apology be issued to the ten remaining members of the Charles Young Redevelopment Task Force. That is a council task force that we asked to go to work for us. To this point, I have not heard from, personally, our Director of Parks, Mr. Jerry Hancock. I have not personally heard from Deputy Director Chris Cooperrider. Neither of those gentlemen found it important enough to show up on the scene as we waited out there approximately 45 minutes before we went to Shiloh, and none of them came to the church. I ask for the opportunity for our constituents to finish our work as a task force, and future mishaps such as this can't be tolerated. Before I turn it over to Richard, we had 100 constituents standing outside of a government-owned facility that's been there 75 years. Many of those folks standing out there were close to that age. None of us want that for our residents. Richard, I'm going to ask you just briefly, hopefully assure us, that such a mistake won't happen again. Well, we made changes on that, and I too want to say I apologize. And I want the council to know, after sitting in that rain, too, and seeing how important Charles Young is to this community, and I see all them people go to another location. This shows me in this administration and the mayor that is a very important priority in our list to make sure that Charles Young, that we do have your accessibility. We will make that happen. We will make sure that you all have a key. We have changed the park not to be involved with this. We have gone to another location with John Sheese, and I want to thank John Sheese the other night for being out there, and he knows how important it is. for Charles Young and for that community. And I do want to say I apologize, but I also want to say with an eye-opener to see how important that Charles Young is, center is to this community. And I want to make sure the council knows that Chris and the rest of the council members is on there, Steve and Peggy and all of them over there, that it's amazing how many people would show up and sit in the rain like that. And that tells you how important it is to this community. So we will make sure that those dates will be open, and we also make sure that there will be keys to the right people that this will not happen again. Thank you, Richard. And Vice Mayor, at this late hour, I do appreciate the Council allowing me to provide you guys this update. The most amazing thing, and I think that Peggy and Steve can attest, 90% of the folks that were in the rain on 3rd Street made way to 5th Street at Shiloh. We had a very good meeting. and for the leadership of the Division of Parks and Recreation, and I hope they do get this message. I expect a call personally. I understand. As an elected official, I expect the respect to hear from them personally. And I want to tell you, there will be changes. The park has set a bad example to that community, and it's going to be a long way before we get the trust back. But I will make sure that that trust will come back. Let me make this last comment, Richard, and I'm done, Vice Mayor. When it's good, it's good, and when it's bad, it's bad. I don't want this incident to express my displeasure with all that Parks does. They have a vast job, and they do a lot of good things in the community. But in this instance at Charles Young, and historically at Charles Young, there has not been the commitment there. And for that, it speaks a lot to the reason that we're in the situation now. I look forward to bringing you guys a report, and I ask for your support in getting the accountability we need to finish our work over there. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Thank you. I know that you're very dedicated to that task force, and I appreciate your educating the council members who didn't know about this. And, Mr. Maloney, thank you for taking some positive action. I think Mr. Myers wants to speak. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Thank you, CAO Maloney, for coming up today. And I guess I want to begin by saying that, you know, we had a conversation on Tuesday about parks and rec and a situation that occurred in my district with respect to that graffiti being left for a month. So I guess I have a question because this is really where leadership comes into play. And my first question is, has any disciplinary action resulted? We're doing some in-house. We'll take care of it right now as we speak. We're going through the problem with HR and the right people who did wrong. We'll be punished in the way that we're allowed to do it. Okay. My next question is, whenever this administration came in, there's a void in that commissioner's spot. And we had an acting commissioner for a while. I've been told, and I might be incorrect, so correct me if I am, that that person is no longer acting. And I think it's because the time limit for which they could act has expired. When we first put him in there and the council approved that, I asked the question, and how long were we planning to leave him in an acting role? Because we have another able-bodied person that's a great employee for our community, for our government, that's in an acting role that's been in that for a year and a half, I believe, in another department. But my question was, you know, what is the plan for putting the permanent commissioner in place? And the reason I think we're having some of these problems is because the leadership is not there because we don't have a commissioner. And so my question, my first question is, what's the administration, what's the mayor doing about replacing? I have a meeting in the morning, and we've had some people interested, real good people. And we've nailed it down to two. And we have tomorrow I've offered this person a chance for the position. He's going to let me know something tomorrow. And if we take this person, I think everybody will be really impressed with this. and it would solve not only just what the community problem, but also what Parks and Rec, a new direction that I think we've been lacking for a long time. And I really feel that there's a lot of potential in Parks and Rec. Jay McCord has brought up that we have a lot of opportunities there, and I don't think we've hit them yet. And I think that's one thing we want to do. We want to find a commissioner that has that vision, not only for parks, but also for facilities. We've got that facilities policy we're working on, and we've got issues there. Services and all that. I mean, it's an important position, but Park has a lot to do with it, and that's going to have a big component, and we want to put the right person in there to make sure that he has a visionary, that what the council wants, and also to be able to not let these kind of things happen. And I apologize, but we will make sure whoever gets that job will be the best person for this city. And hopefully tomorrow I get an answer on that, And if I don't, we have somebody else. But I'll keep my fingers crossed for you and hope to have an answer for you this week. Okay, and don't short-sell facilities because, you know, we've got not only that policy, but we talked Tuesday in that meeting about, you know, people who are leasing space from us that have locked us out of our own space and violating leases and things like that. So there's a lot of important things on that side too. I guess I'm going to ask that Tuesday the administration come in work session and present all the positions that are vacant that we have acting people in and how long they've been acting and what the law says about how long they can act. I believe we sent that out, but I'll make sure we'll get that back out to everybody. But I'd like to have a presentation on that, and I'd like to have in that presentation the administration's plan for filling all of those acting positions. And then also, are those folks still getting paid acting pay? Because I know that the person who was acting commissioner is not acting anymore. and so they're not getting paid for that, but everybody's still going to them with all the issues just like they are. So thank you for your willingness to come and speak tonight, and I look forward to the presentation on Tuesday. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Stenet. Thank you, Vice President. I did have one question. Council Member Ford, who was responsible for scheduling the meeting there, and who gave the indication that someone would open it up? Because that's not an active park and recreation facility currently. I want to know who scheduled the meeting. I'd be glad in the answer to that. I want to give you a little bit of history. It was scheduled weeks in advance. Right, because I remember we had the conversation one night. And then what happened was that morning of the day it was supposed to be done, we met with Parks and Recs, John Sheen and I did. We gave them the information. They went down at 3.30, unlocked the door, wanted to set it up. What happened was a person who left thought there were other keys to the facility. He went on home and locked it back up. Well, when the lady who went down there to open it up, he took the key off the wrong thing. It was really an accidental, but it was still wrong. So that person couldn't be called while you were there? We called him, and the problem was the person did not live close enough. We had two master keys where they were closer than where he was, but it still was a 45-minute drive from each one of those. One was out in Veterans Park and the other one was out in Veterans Park. It wasn't a scheduling error. It was human error, basically. It was human error. Okay. Very good. Councilmember Ford also wanted to... Thank you, Vice Mayor. Councilmember Stemm, I think Richard is correct on it to an extent. However, and I'm going to get this letter that I have, and I'll share it with all of the council if you guys are interested, because it gives a lot of the timeline. Human error is one thing, but the lack of response from parks and recreation is another. Richard got there in 10 minutes. John Sheeb, our general service commissioner, was ever present. That's not the issue here. The issue is that we had 90 chairs inside set up ready to go. And we had 100 people standing outside in the rain. Very inconvenient to us. but my perception is that it constituted no level of an emergency or urgency from the Division of Parks and Recreation. That's problematic. And the letter that I'll share with you guys gives a timeline that indicates, and we've talked a lot about process tonight, all processes were covered. But it reflected bad on the administration, and I shared that with Richard and I shared that with Mayor Gray from the leadership of Parks and Recreation. I'll make sure that you guys give a copy. I don't want to harp on this too much. We want to move forward. We need your help. We need your help in moving forward for the community. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Maloney. Is there any other announcement from a council member? Okay, we have four members of the public signed up to speak. And as I call your name, if you'll go to the podium and give your name and address, and you'll have three minutes to speak. So first is Donald Newman. Welcome. Welcome. Thank you, Mayor Gray. Mayor Gray, Vice Mayor Sordano. He's not here tonight. Yes, ma'am. I want to give thanks to him, though. All right. I have copied them on what I need to speak about. And if you can give your name and address for the record. My name is Donald Newman. I'm at 3420 Spring Lake Drive, Lexington, Kentucky, 40517. I want to start out by saying something very positive. And I'm not saying this just because I have relatives on the police force and the fire department, but I had a heart attack about three years ago, and those guys saved me. So I want to give a shout-out to them. I want to give a shout out to Ian Davis who works in the sign division I'm on our neighborhood association I requested a sign and also requested that the curbs be repainted they were done expressly excellent job very quickly when he mentioned that he would have them done I want to give a shout out to that and I want to say there's one department that I'm not quite thrilled with right now And that's where we're going, and I'm going to try to stay as direct but at the same time colloquial as possible. I have been ran around by the Parks Department. I don't know how else to put it. I wrote a letter complaining about abuses that take place in Meadowbrook. I wrote that letter May, roughly May 5th. I only heard from them ten days ago after I prompted them what happened. You were supposed to get back with me. They never got back with me. When they did, they wrote an arrogant letter to me saying, well, you don't know what you're talking about. Yes, I do. I've played metal books since 1983. I worked there two years in the late 80s, early 90s. I have a fairly low handicap. I have ten holes in ones out there. Yes, lessons have been given by unqualified persons out there. There are streams of income that are not accounted for. I asked for that accounting, and I have not received it. That was ten days ago. Mr. Fields and Mr. Hancock, I turned 50 this weekend. If they want to come to my house, they could come over. I'd have them for my birthday. They probably wouldn't have me, but that's okay. If you guys see them, let them know they're invited. I don't wish any ill will. But the taxpayers should not subsidize. Metalwork is losing money. It will be back up here pretty soon on the docket. It keeps losing money. It's been mismanaged. We can argue whether we should subsidize it, but we should not subsidize untaxed, unaccounted-for revenue that runs through there, and that is my major point. And thank you all for your time. I appreciate it. Thank you. And, Mr. Newman, if you want to speak to the – you've already talked to Mr. Maloney about this. Mr. Maloney has been very helpful. Very good. I know George Jay knows me. I've spoken with Mr. Beard. I copy Mr. Beard on a lot of my correspondence. Thank you. And thank you all for your time. Thank you very much. Mr. McCarthy. For the record, my name is Bernard McCarthy. My address is 515 Harry Street. There's three things that stick in my mind here. First off, the recent re-striping on Pink Pigeon Parkway at the next intersection northward from Manowar Boulevard that turned a through lane into a left turn lane. It seems like the traffic equivalent of robbing Peter to pay Paul. I mean, you have this nice, wide, grass median. Is this government really too broke to pay for the cost of digging out some of that median and actually building a true left turn lane? second in examining the docket here these synopsises don't really tell what it is you're doing what on earth is a zoning compliance permit and that's first reading ordinance number 8 and then second reading of resolutions number 4 What on earth is a North Lexington gateway plan? Are you spending more money to decorate things similar to the way that scaping our streets blows a lot of money decorating them without improving their traffic handling capacity? I bet Mr. Maloney could answer those questions if you wanted to talk with him. Thank you. Gwen Summers. Yeah. Welcome. Thank you, and good evening, Vice Mayor Gordon and Council. My name is Gwen Summers, S-U-M-M-E-R-S. The address is now 3310 Regatta Grove, Alpharetta, Georgia. It was, for the past 15 years, 845 Overview Drive, Lexington 44514, and it was in Mr. McCord's district. For the record, and I'm going to be really brief because I realize I only have three minutes, so I'm going to hit on the things that I want to maybe further discuss at a later date. The first one being the Brenda Calvin Memorial in honor of all fallen firefighters that I presented to Mayor Pam Miller when she was mayor and received her blessing to move forward that project, which I presented to the Fraternal Order of Firefighters, who also said they were interested in building a memorial. I had done a lot of lead work along with Naida Silverberg on that project, along with the sculptor who was Gary Bibbs, who's a U.K. professor, and we had everything in place, but we were left out. The other thing I want to talk about is on Broadway at the Old Winn-Dixie parking lot, I was there and that was on 11, 15 or thereabouts of last year, 2010. I was there with a broken tire. I had parked where I thought would be okay off the street and the police officer came up while I was in my trunk trying to get to my tire arm, to change my tire, and he told me that I needed to move my car. And it's my understanding that police officers are here to serve and protect, and he told me that I needed to move my car, and when I didn't move fast enough, he said that I was under arrest, slammed me to the ground, and took me to jail, but he left me out there for about an hour on public display, and they towed my car with my purse, my keys, my cell phone, everything. And subsequently, I spent five days in the FCDC for disorderly conduct and was not allowed a phone call for five days. Subsequently, I lost my job paying me $25 an hour, and I also had to pay about $300 to retrieve my car when I was released from jail that Thursday. This started on a Saturday. You have about 10 seconds. Sure. The Roots and Heritage Festival, the gospel show was moved from the end, stage one, near Rose Street in Maine all the way to the Lyric Theater. only 500 people got to attend and I imagine that was the friends and family of the staff and volunteers I didn't get to see the show the new executive director was not very helpful and she likes the public relations skills of I don't even know what the t-shirts the t-shirts I'm so sorry your time is up did you hold up the t-shirt yes I did and I wanted to ask permission to finish selling the ones that I had created for the World Equestrian Games. I didn't realize that you all had trademarked the horse capital of the world. So I have about 500 T-shirts that, I don't know. I wonder if perhaps someone from law could talk with you to answer that question. Commissioner Graham, could you talk with her about whether she can get permission and how she would do that? Okay. Thank you very much. And thank you. Yes. And last is Robin Pitts. She's with me. Oh, okay. Did she want to speak? Robin, yes. Did you want to speak? No? Okay. Thank you very much. Oh, yes, sir. Come on up. Good afternoon, Council. My name is Henry Kenyon. I live at 468 Douglas Street. That's off of the Georgetown Street corridor. I'm here to speak for a friend who is in the 10th District, Doug Martin's District. This friend has a particular problem. He hasn't been able to have anybody to take care of. So I told him there were three other members that not only represented the whole of Lexington, but represented his district too. And that was Councilman Kay at large, Councilman Ellinger, and Vice Mayor Gorton. The problem is at 1025 Jupiter Drive, it's on the corner. it's a house that has not been lived in since 2005 someone comes out periodically and cuts the grass in the front the problem is there are trees growing up around this house and it would make a perfect place for people that are transient or doing illegal things to hide in in the daytime the way the house is constructed it, all you have to do is catch rainwater in the bathtub and you've got facilities for using it during the day. So I said I would come in and I would speak for Orrin Kedrick's. He lives at 1032 Balsam Drive. That's next door to it. He has a wooden fence put up. But this property needs to be looked at and taken care of. And I said I would ask him to ask Mr. Martin and the other three members at large to see if they could come out and help him in his neighborhood get some kind of relief on this house. Thank you. I wonder if code enforcement comes to mind, if Commissioner Clay Mason would want to talk with you to get that address again. and he's agreed to talk with you about that after the meeting. Thank you for coming. And I'd be happy to work with you as well. I didn't understand the streets that you were giving me, so I'll get those from you afterward. But I appreciate you coming down and letting us know that. Thank you. Is there anyone else who wishes to speak before the council? I have a motion and a second to adjourn. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Anybody opposed? Thank you very much. Bill.