Hello, hello, and oh, I was looking at two different clocks. The digital clock says it's 559 and the other clock says it's 601, so now we're ready to go. We'll call the meeting to order. and first on our agenda is the roll call. And Madam Clerk, would you please call the roll? Mr. Ford? Here. Ms. Gorton? Here. Ms. Henson? Here. Mr. Kay? Mr. Lane? Here. Ms. Lawless? Here. Mr. Martin? Here. Mr. McCord? Here. Mr. Myers? Here. Mr. Stennett? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Beard? Present. Mr. Blues? Here. Ms. Crosby? Here. Mr. Ellinger? Here. And Mr. Farmer? Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Thank you. Tonight we'll just stand for a moment of silence for our invocation tonight, please. Thanks, everyone. Appropriate to welcome a new year with our first council meeting of the new year. and welcome everyone who's here tonight joining us. We have on our agenda tonight minutes of previous meetings. There are six sets of minutes, and as chair I'll ask for a motion to accept all six sets of the minutes. Motion to approve. Second. A motion by Council Member Ellinger, second by Council Member Myers to approve all six sets of minutes. Is there any discussion? All right. Hearing none, then we'll take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. All opposed, no. Motion carries. And next on our agenda tonight is the second reading of ordinances. Madam Clerk, will you give us a second reading, please? Ordinance No. 1, an ordinance amending certain of the budgets of the Lexington Fayette Urban County Government to reflect current requirements for municipal expenditures and appropriating and reappropriating funds, Schedule No. 49. Move approval. Motion by Vice Mayor Gordon, second by Council Member Lane to approve. Is there any discussion? All right. Hearing none, I'll ask the clerk to please. I'll call the roll. Mr. Ford? Yes. Ms. Gorton? Aye. Ms. Henson? Yes. Mr. Lane? Yes. Ms. Lawless? Yes. Mr. Martin? Yes. Mr. McCord? Yes. Mr. Myers? Yes. Mr. Stinnett? Yes. Mr. Beard? Aye. Mr. Blues? Yes. Ms. Cosby? Yes. Mr. Ellinger? Yes. Mr. Farmer? Aye. Thank you. Thank you, Meredith. All right, next on our agenda is the first reading. of ordinances. I should have said that the vote reflects passage of the motion. And next on our agenda is first reading of ordinances. Madam Clerk, will you give us the first reading of ordinances, numbers 2 through 12? Number 2, an ordinance changing the zone from a wholesale and warehouse business B4 zone to a light industrial I1 zone for 3.18 net to 3.82 gross acres for property located at 1133 Industry Road, SRC of Lexington, Incorporated. Number three, an ordinance changing the zone from a wholesale and warehouse business B4 zone to a high-rise apartment R5 zone for 8.54 net, 8.83 gross acres, and from an agricultural urban AU zone to a high-rise apartment R5 zone for 2.06 net and gross acres for property located at 843 South Broadway and 1200 Red Mile Road, a portion of Hallmark Student Development Company, LLC. 4. An ordinance changing the zone from a light industrial I-1 zone to a heavy industrial I-2 zone for 10.59 net and gross acres for property located at 195 Lyle Industrial Avenue, a portion of, subject to certain use restrictions imposed as conditions of granting the zone change, Wayne Supply Company. 5. An ordinance closing a portion of Evans Street, determining that all property owners abutting the portion of the street to be closed have been identified, provided with written notice of the proposed closing and consented thereto in writing, and authorizing and directing the Mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute a quick-claim deed transferring the former right-of-way to the abutting owners, subject to the reservation of easements for access and maintenance of existing utilities in the former right-of-way. Number six, an ordinance amending Section 1 of Ordinance No. 163, 2011 to correct a typographical error in the subsection line number relating to the position of maintenance mechanic. Number seven, an ordinance amending Section 2152 of the Code of Ordinances abolishing two positions of public service worker, Grade 106N, in the Division of Waste Management, and amending Section 2152 of the Code of Ordinances creating one position of microcomputer support specialist, Grade 113N, in the Division of Waste Management. Number 8, an ordinance amending Section 717B of the Code of Ordinances of the Lexington-Fayette Urban County Government to change the position authorized and directed to establish fees from the Chief Information Officer to the Chief Administrative Officer. Number 9, an ordinance amending Section 2252 of the Code of Ordinances extending the term of the temporary position of Staff Assistant Senior, Grade 108N, from April 1, 2012 to April 1, 2015, and the temporary position of Project Engineering Coordinator, Grade 119E, from February 25, 2012 to February 25, 2015, all in the Division of Water Quality, effective upon passage of Council. Number 10, an ordinance amending certain of the budgets of the Lexington Fayette Urban County Government to reflect current requirements for municipal expenditures in appropriating and reappropriating funds, Schedule No. 50. Number 11, an ordinance amending Section 1 of Ordinance No. 158, 2011, amending the schedule of meetings for the Lexington Fayette Urban County Council for the calendar year 2012 to change the time of the Public Safety Committee meetings on June 26th and July 10th to 11 a.m. and the time of the Environmental Quality Committee meeting on June 26th to 1 p.m. Number 12, an ordinance relating to discharges of surface or groundwater into the Urban County Sanitary Sewer System and creating Article 8 of Chapter 16 of the Code of Ordinances, Sections 16111 through 16115, to ensure adequate enforcement to deter and prevent introduction of surface or groundwater into the urban county sanitary sewer system, to prohibit discharge of surface or groundwater into the sewer system as a condition of initial or continued sanitary sewer service, to provide that urban county government representatives shall have access at all reasonable times to enter properties for inspections, to provide for notice of prohibited discharges to owners or occupants of property and require abatement, to provide for a supplementary sanitary sewer user charge in the amount of $75 on all sanitary sewer user charge billings for those properties that do not permit urban county government representatives to inspect and those that do not abate an unauthorized condition within 60 days until the inspection is permitted or the condition is abated. To provide that failure to abate such condition may subject property owners to civil or criminal penalties and to provide that the supplementary user charge is in addition to any fines or other penalties imposed under applicable law. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Are there any motions? regarding the ordinances. All right. Council Member, do you have something? Okay. Vice Mayor Gordon. Thank you, Mayor. I move to suspend the rules and give second reading to number 11. Second. All right. Motion by Vice Mayor Gordon, second by Council Member Crosby, to suspend the rules and give a second read to item number 11. All right. Is there any discussion? All right. Hearing none, we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. All right. Are there any other motions? All right. Madam Clerk, please give us a second read. Thank you. Ordinance No. 11 for second reading. And ordinance amending Section 1 of Ordinance No. 158, 2011, amending the schedule of meetings for the Lexington-Fayette Urban County Council for the calendar year 2012 to change the time of the Public Safety Committee meetings on June 26th and July 10th to 11 a.m. and the time of the Environmental Quality Committee meeting on June 26th to 1 p.m. Move approval. Second. Motion by Vice Mayor and a second by Council Member Ellinger. Is there any discussion? All right. Hearing none, we can take a roll call vote. Madam Clerk. Mr. Ford? Yes. Ms. Gorton? Aye. Ms. Henson? Yes. Mr. Lane? Yes. Ms. Lawless? Mr. Martin? Yes. Mr. McCord? Yes. Mr. Myers? Yes. Mr. Stinnett? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Beard? Aye. Mr. Blues? Yes. Ms. Crosby? Yes. Mr. Ellinger? Yes. Mr. Farmer? Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Thank you, Madam Clerk. All right, when you're ready, we can move on then to the first reading of resolutions. Resolution number one, a resolution accepting the bid of Top Dog's Police Canine Academy, LLC, establishing a price contract for detection and patrol canines for the Division of Police. Number two, a resolution accepting the bids of Helgen Industries doing business as DeSantis Holster, U.S. Cavalry, Kiesler Police Supply, Inc., Kentucky Uniforms, Inc., GALS and Aramark Company, LLC, and Bluegrass Uniforms, establishing price contracts for police recruit equipment for the Division of Police. Number three, a resolution accepting the bid of Sapphire Cleaning Service, LLC, establishing a price contract for custodial services for Sales Road Campus for the Division of Facilities and Fleet Management. Number four, a resolution accepting the bid of C.W. Nielsen Manufacturing Corporation, establishing a price contract for police badges for the Division of Police. Number five, a resolution accepting the bid of W.J. Brands, LLC, doing business as Manowar Harley-Davidson, LLC, establishing a price contract for police motorcycles for the Division of Police. Number six, a resolution accepting the bid of J. Eninger & Son, Inc., in the amount of $27,994 for a V-box salt spreader for the Division of Facilities and Fleet Management. Number seven, a resolution accepting the bids of Recreation Supply Incorporated, Recreionics Incorporated, EMSCO, doing business as OP Aquatics and Aquatic Technology Incorporated, establishing price contracts for swimming pool supplies for the Division of Parks and Recreation. Number eight, a resolution accepting the bid of Jack Doheny Supplies Incorporated in the amount of $374,975 for a combination sewer cleaning unit for the Division of Water Quality. Number nine, a resolution accepting the bid of G4S Justice Services, LLC, establishing a price contract for electronic monitoring of inmates for the Division of Community Corrections. Number ten, a resolution accepting the bid of Cornerstone Institutional, LLC, establishing a price contract for mattresses for the Division of Community Corrections. Number eleven, a resolution accepting the bid of Superior Demolition Incorporated in the amount of $120,600 for the demolition of the Phoenix parking structure for the Division of General Services and authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Irby County Government to execute an agreement with Superior Demolition, Inc. related to the bid. Number 12, a resolution accepting the bids of Pennington Seed and Spill Management Products, Inc., establishing price contracts for baseball field drying conditioners for the Division of Parks and Recreation. Number 13, a resolution authorizing the Division of Human Resources to make a conditional offer to the following. A. A. 730.77 biweekly in the Department of Law, effective upon passage of counsel. Number 14, a resolution ratifying the probationary civil service appointments of Corey House Engineering Technician, Grade 111N, 18.087, hourly in the Division of Traffic Engineering, effective January 16, 2012, and Horace Miles Equipment Operator, Grade 108N, 15.002, hourly in the Division of Water Quality, effective January 16, 2012, ratifying the probationary sworn appointment of David Sullivan, Fire Lieutenant, Grade 315N, 17.740, hourly in the Division of Fire and Emergency Services, effective December 14, 2011. Number 15, a resolution authorizing the Mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute change order number one to the contract with Red River Ranch, LLC, for Haley Pike Landfill Compost Pad, increasing the contract price by the sum of $2,985 from $103,361 to $106,346. Number 16, a resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute a health services agreement with Corizon Incorporated for the provision of medical care services to inmates at the detention center at a cost not to exceed $2,883,924. Number 17, a resolution authorizing and directing the Mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to accept a grant from the Kentucky American Water Company, which grant funds are in the amount of $500 under the Kentucky American Water Firefighting Support Grant Program, offer the purchase of 25 personal protective equipment hoods, and the acceptance of which does not obligate the Urban County Government for the expenditure of funds. Number 18, a resolution authorizing the Mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute an agreement with Lexington Fayette Urban County Airport Board for the upgrade of the Bluegrass Field Sanitary Pumping Station, with the parties equally sharing the project costs at a cost to the urban county government not to exceed $600,000. Number 19, a resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute an agreement with the Kentucky Office of Homeland Security for extension of the Metropolitan Medical Response System, MMRS, project through May 31, 2012 at no cost to the urban county government. Number 20, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute an engineering services agreement with CDP Engineers, Inc. for the design of the Southland Drive bike lane project, Nicholasville Road to Rosemont Gardens, at a cost not to exceed $49,886. Number 21, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute an agreement with Omnisource Integrated Supply, LLC, for WebEOC coordinator services at a cost not to exceed $57,041.22. Number 22, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute an agreement with Omnisource Integrated Supply, LLC, for temporary employees at the Division of Emergency Management 911 at a cost not to exceed $15,000. I believe there's a public hearing for number 23. There's a public hearing. 23, yes, ma'am. Thanks, Meredith. There is a public hearing associated with this resolution, number 23. It is on the docket to address a program amendment for use of the Community Development Block Grant, the recovery funds, and I will open the hearing now. Does anyone wish to address the Council regarding item number 23? Yes, sir. Please. Mayor, Jim Gray, and members of the Lexington Fed, Urban County Council, my name is Alvin M. Seals. I am one of the spokesmen for the Child's Young Community Center Advisory Board, or Council, I should call it, and have been given some authority to speak for them. There may be others who may speak as well. But we strongly endorse the proposal that a new Community Development Block Grant project be established in the amount of $173,000 for the restoration and rehabilitation of the Charles Young Community Center. May I say that during the past four decades, institutions in our community and across our USA, particularly the family, our schools, peer relations, and even mass media, have been challenged by rapid change. serious, rapid change, resulting in some degree of disorganization across our community. I speak as a professional sociologist. These dynamics have been especially devastating to the poor, to the disadvantaged, to ethnic and racial minorities. most especially jobs, that is the occupational structure, has not provided adequate employment for many across this land as well as the East End that we are concentrating on as well as Lexington Fair County. Males have been most affected. Subsequently, family life has been has been torn asunder. Too many families are single-parent units with at least 67% to 70% single-parent families across the United States and possibly here as well. While we are in this transitional period here in Lexington at this particular time, other institutions as the Charles Young Community Center have a very significant role to play during this time, during this transitional period. It can provide support and guidance, in a sense, be a second home for many of our youth in East End and across Fayette County. Hence, Lexington, Fayette County, and particularly the East End, has an institution available that can provide substantive support that is social, psychological, and otherwise to the children and youth, as well as all other citizens in the area. To make it brief, please carefully consider these points, and as you make your decision about the grant proposal, please, in support of it. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Sears. Would anyone else wish to speak? All right. Then we can proceed. At this time, it's appropriate for me as chair to close the hearing, and we can ask the clerk to proceed with the reading of the resolution. Thank you. Number 25. Number 26. a resolution accepting the response of Utility Planning Network to RFP No. 43-2011 for project management and consulting services related to the implementation of a new user fee billing system for the Division of Revenue and authorizing the Mayor on behalf of the Lexington Fayette Urban County Government to execute a consulting services agreement with Utility Planning Network at an hourly rate of $140 to $170 dependent upon travel with funds budgeted for fiscal year 2012 in the amount of $350,000. Number 27, a resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to accept a grant from the Kentucky State Police Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Division, which grant funds are in the amount of $75,000 federal funds, are for continuation of the Motor Carrier Safety Assistance Program, MCSAP, the acceptance of which obligates the urban county government for the expenditure of $18,750 as a local match and authorizing the mayor to transfer unencumbered funds within the grant budget. Number 28, a resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute a modification to agreement with the Kentucky Department of Military Affairs, Division of Emergency Management, for extension of the agreement for funds for the Chemical Stockpile Emergency Preparedness Program, CSEP, for fiscal year 2009 through March 31, 2012, at no cost to the Urban County Government. And number 29, a resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute a modification to agreement with the Kentucky Department of Military Affairs, Division of Emergency Management for extension of the agreement for funds for the Chemical Stockpile Emergency Preparedness Program, CSEP, for fiscal year 2010 through September 30, 2012, at no cost to the urban county government. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Are there any motions? Yes, Council Member Myers. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Council members, you received an email from my office kind of late in the afternoon today with a motion and a resolution in it or an agreement attached to it and an email saying that we were going to try to walk it on tonight. So I hope you'll approve this. I moved to place on the docket for January 12, 2012 council meeting under the first reading of resolutions. The resolution with the Friends of the Skate Parks for website assistance for donations for skate parks. So moved. Second. That's a motion by Council Member Myers. Second by Council Member Blues. Is there any discussion on the motion? Council Member Crosby. I was just going to ask, can you repeat the motion, please? Sure. I moved a place on the docket for the January 12, 2012 Council meeting on the first reading of resolutions, a resolution with Friends of the Skate Parks for website assistance for donations for skate parks. So moved. Does anyone else wish to speak to the motion? Council Member Lawless? I think this is a good idea. Have we done this for any other groups like the dog park, Friends of the Dog Park? I don't know the answer to that question, but I know that the Vice Mayor just talked to me about this, and I'll let her add any comments that she wants to, but the option is available to do that, and this has been through law, it's been through Parks and Rec, and everybody's on board. I don't have any problem with it, but I think we have, I would encourage us to do this for more of our programming that would allow for both people to volunteer and to donate to parks programs or whatever that are LFUCG programming, because I think we are missing a huge opportunity out there. So thank you. Thank you. Council Member Farmer. Thank you, Mayor. Councilman Myers, I noticed on the second page, number three, that there's a blank in there, So is there no intent to fill in the blank at this time? Yes, thank you very much. After talking with Computer Services this evening, they have, you're talking about number three on page two? Yes, sir. Thirty days would be the number that we're going to place in there. Well, I would suggest we want to make that part of the motion then. Yes, so thank you very much. I move to amend the agreement that's before us to include the 30 days and number three on page two. Second. There's a motion and a second on the amendment. Is there any discussion on it? All right. Hearing none, we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries, Mr. Farmer. Thank you, Mayor. Then since no others of this time have been done, just how did you arrive at donating no less than 90% of the funds raised to the LFUCG or to use no less than 90% of the funds raised to directly purchase goods, service, and equipment to be donated to the LFUCG? Give me a little background there. Okay. And I don't want to put the vice man on the spot, but we kind of had a little bit of a conversation about that as well this evening. and if she wants to add some comment, that would be welcome. What we're thinking on that is, one, we want the public to understand and be assured that the money is going to be appropriately used on both sides. The Friends of the Skate Park wanted to be ensured that the money didn't get lost in our budget and then not used for what it was intended to be used for. But also we all want people who write that check and donate to understand where the money is going and be able to be transparent with that. The reason that we didn't do the full is because obviously there's things like hosting the website. There's different things that are going to cost money that the government's not going to pay for, that the organization will be responsible for, and that's why we want to leave that cushion of the 10%. But we also had the foresight to understand that oftentimes when we have these public-private partnerships, the project is completed, but there's no funding for repairs, for maintenance, for upgrades in the future. Understood. And so the organization intends to fully continue to engage the community, continue to raise funds year after year, and some of that money can go towards maintenance and upkeep and repairs and upgrades and those kinds of things. But we wanted to ensure that the organization had some money left in their budget to be able to keep functioning and pay their dues with the state and all those other things. And then upon request, Mellon FUCG to provide an accounting of its revenues and expenses. so transparency transparency so this group is set up and it's been functioning and this is just a new endeavor for them no it got started simply or specifically for this endeavor that we're doing yes so it's brand new but we went to the vice mayor she actually spoke at at one of the first organizational meetings gave her insight as to how they set up friends of the dog parks we've been in communication with previous council mayor sandy schaefer on how she originally set up friends of the parks. So instead of trying to create a new wheel, we went to the pros that had done it before and said, how did you guys do it? And we want to model ours after you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Vice Mayor Gordon. Thank you, Mayor. I do have just a few comments. I chatted with Council Member Myers just a few minutes ago about this. We have had extensive conversations on the Parks Advisory Board about the importance of using friends groups more and more to raise money for parks because we know that our parks don't have enough money within government. And so I guess Friends of the Dog Park was probably the first real specific friends group that was formed for a specific reason and and has raised well over $100,000 to date. Friends of the Dog Park began giving money to LFUCG for projects and determined after a while that it suited its purpose better for it to just pay the bills straight and not give the money to the government. And that has worked well for our Friends group. We've just paid the bills. can give to the 501 and get a tax benefit. And so I think this is a really good idea. I will look to, I thought Chad Cottle maybe was in the room. Is Chad here? I would presume from this resolution that it will now be, the government will now put all Friends websites with a link, because Friends of the Dog Park established their own website, which is a very good one, but it would be really good to have that link on the LFUCG website as proposed in here, and I think that we need to do that post-haste with the Friends groups that are raising money for government. So I appreciate your bringing it forward. Thank you. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Council Member Lawless. And maybe I can find out more about this and not take up time. So will Friends of the Skateboard be a separate 501c3, or will it be part of parks? Because now that would make it an outside agency. No, it is a separate 501c3. It will have its own website, but it will also have a link on the city's website. But it is a separate 501c3, just like, that's why I said we use the same framework that Friends of the Parks and Friends of the Dog Park used. Okay. So we can talk about it more later, but it technically now is an outside agency. it's not getting any funding from the city so i'm not sure that's a partner i mean i don't know it's going to get any kind of services to help build its website if that i mean i completely support it but thank you all right if there's no further discussion then we can ask for a vote On the motion, all in favor, please indicate by saying aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. All right. Madam Clerk, would you give a first reading to the resolution, please? A resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Irving County Government to execute an agreement with Friends of Skate Parks, Lexington, Kentucky Incorporated, for website assistance for donations for a skate park. All right. Thank you. Are there any other motions? Council members. Council Member Martin. I move to suspend the council rules to give second reading to item 20. This is a project that's been three years in the making, and this will allow the design work to proceed for the Southland Drive bike lanes during the winter months so that we can hopefully get started on this construction when spring hits. So moved. Motion by Council Member Martin, seconded by Council Member Lawless. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. Hearing none, we can take a vote. All in favor, please indicate by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Council Member Ford. Thank you, Mayor. May I make a motion that we suspend the rules and give second read to Resolution No. 23 to allow the administration to move quickly with this project. So moved. Motion by Council Member Ford, seconded by Council Member Henson. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. Hearing none, we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. All opposed, no. Motion carries. Councilman Myers. Thank you, Mayor. I move to suspend the rules and give second meeting to number 30, and the reason why is that their fundraising calendar is already being set. They've got some things set for early February, and so we'd like to have the website up as quick as possible. Thank you. Motion by Councilman Myers. Second by Councilman Ellinger. Is there any discussion on the motion? Hearing none, all in favor, please say aye. Opposed, no. No. All right. Let's take a show of hands. All in favor, please. All right, we can do it. Can we do it electronically? Commissioner Sally. Commissioner Sally. Commissioner Hattie. This is the first time I've done this. I would like to request a suspension of rules. Wait, wait, wait. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, just a little bit early. Hold on just a second. We've got to take a vote on this last one. We're voting on the second read for number 30. All right? So just let's vote electronically. All in favor. All right, let's just show of hands then. All in favor of the motion, raise your hand, please. All right. Opposed? Raise your hand. Motion carries. Not sure what's going on with the vote, but we'll make sure we get that recorded correctly in minutes. Thank you. All right. We can freeze the tape and see. All right, let's vote again, please. All right, raise your hand, please, if you're for the motion. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. All right, motion carries. All right, are there any additional motions? Now, we have some motions for a second read from the administration, and first is Commissioner Hamilton. I would like to request that the rules be suspended for a second reading on Phoenix Garage, docket number 11. Please. Move approval. This is a motion by Vice Mayor Gorton, second by Council Member Crosby. On item number 11, is there any discussion on the motion? Council Member Martin. Thank you, Mayor. Can you walk us through the funding of this? Because my question is whether a budget amendment is required. Because we budgeted the money for the maintenance of the garage, which I'm not sure applies to tearing it down. So can you help us with that? You want to do it or you want me to? That's a rather poor amount of maintenance. Sal, you might want to. It ends up being gone. I think I know the answer, but I'm going to let the expert do it. The original intent of the half a million dollars that was allocated for the garage repair and maintenance was for items such as this. And we got another project that's coming up in regard to fire suppression system for another garage. In evaluating the options available to us in regard to the second deck of the Phoenix garage, We're looking at primarily as a life cycle cost analysis repair versus the demolition of that justice upper deck. Considering the age of the facility as well as some of the code issues that at the time the garage was built, probably met codes, the method of construction was the biggest issue that we had in regard to conducting a thorough 100% analysis and inspection of the prefab panels. that are part of the second deck. And consultation was about three to four different consulting firms. The decision was made at this point. It would be much more prudent to go ahead and move forward with the demolition rather than trying to repair. Well, I certainly am not going to argue about the safety, but I just question whether if the council approves something for maintenance, it can be used for demolition instead. So that's just, I leave that for. Mr. Barrows. Yes, sir. From a purchasing standpoint, I would have to defer to them, but I believe we could book that expenditure in that particular account. From a procedural standpoint on the budgeting side, council approves at the division level operating dollars. We didn't necessarily approve a specific amount for each account. So each division director has discretion within their operating budget. so there is no budgetary amendment that would need. We would typically encourage that to be put into the appropriate account, but there is discretion within the operating dollars. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. All righty. Thank you. Anyone else wish to speak to the motion? All right, then we can take a vote. Thank you. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. All opposed, no. Motion carries. All right. Who else? Yeah, we have some others here. Commissioner Driscoll. Yes, thank you, Mayor. I respectfully request a second reading on item number 26. It's the UPN agreement for project management support for the user fee billing and collection system. As you know, Kentucky American Water gave us a deadline on March 31, 2012, pretty tight deadline to transition this service. This project manager will assist us in vendor selection, contract negotiations with that vendor, negotiations with Kentucky American Water for the information that we will continue to need from them, and implementation of software, data transfer, et cetera. They have industry-specific experience in supporting municipalities in similar projects. Thank you for your consideration. Move approval. Second. Motion by Vice Mayor Gordon, second by Council Member Beard. Is there any discussion? All right. Hearing none, we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. No. All right. Motion carries. Commissioner Mason. I would like to respectfully request a second reading on document number two, which is a police recruit equipment resolution, and also number 21, the Omnisource WebEOC coordinator services. Number two and number 21, is that correct? Yes. Okay. And, Council, yeah, Vice Mayor Gordon. I have a question. What was the reason on number 21 other than just to speed it up? It's to speed it up. It's a timing issue on a grant. On a grant, a timing issue? It's out of grants, yes. You're right. Yes, sir. And what is the timing issue? The contract for the WebEOC coordinating services has expired, and this is something that we took the proposals for last September, and we've had some contractual issues to work out, and we don't want these services to lapse. This is the Emergency Operations Center, and we don't want those services to lapse, and that's the timing issue. It comes out of the CSET project. Thank you. Any other questions, comments? Do we get a motion? Second. Motion by Councilman Martin, second by Vice Mayor Gordon. Is there any discussion? All right. All in favor? We can take a vote then. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Mayor. And we would also like to request second reading on number 13, which is our. Thanks, Glenda. Number 13. And what was it again? That's our standard personnel resolution. So after approval, human resources will be able to make an offer to these employees and we'll be able to send them to have their physicals. All right. All right. Any questions? Can we ask for a motion? Motion by Council Member Ford, seconded by Council Member Blues. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right, then take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Thank you. Madam Clerk, when you're ready. Resolution number two for second reading, a resolution accepting the bids of Helgen Industries doing business as DeSantis Holster, U.S. Cavalry. Kiesler Police Supply Incorporated, Kentucky Uniforms Incorporated, Gals, and Aramark Company, LLC, and Bluegrass Uniforms establishing price contracts for police recruit equipment for the Division of Police. Number 11. A resolution accepting the bid of Superior Demolition Incorporated in the amount of $120,600 for the demolition of the Phoenix parking structure for the Division of General Services and authorizing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute an agreement with Superior Demolition Incorporated related to the bid. Number 13. A resolution authorizing the Division of Human Resources to make a conditional offer to the following. Christy Taylor, Police Analyst, Grade 111N, 17.530, hourly in the Division of Police. Eric Gentry, Public Service Worker, Grade 106N, 12.181, hourly in the Division of Water Quality. Richard Draper, Treatment Plant Operator, Grade 113N, 16.189 hourly in the Division of Water Quality. Alan Caldwell, Service Writer, Grade 109N, 16.815 hourly in the Division of Facilities and Fleet Management. And Darrow Handy, Public Service Worker, Grade 106N, 12.181 hourly in the Division of Parks and Recreation. Authorizing the beginning of the probationary civil service probationary period upon successful completion of a physical or medical examination as required, effective upon passage of counsel. authorizing the Division of Human Resources to make a conditional offer to the following, Jacob Walburn, attorney, grade 117E, 1,884.62 biweekly in the Department of Law, and Michael Cravens, attorney, grade 117E, 1,730.77 biweekly in the Department of Law, effective upon passage of counsel. Number 20. A resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute an engineering services agreement with CDP Engineers, Inc. for the design of the Southland Drive bike lane project, Nicholasville Road to Rosemont Gardens, at a cost not to exceed $49,886. Number 21, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute an agreement with Omnisource Integrated Supply, LLC, for WebEOC coordinator services at a cost not to exceed $57,041.22. Number 23, a resolution approving and adopting a program amendment for use of community development block grant recovery CDBGR funds in the 2008 consolidated plan to establish a new project, the restoration and rehabilitation of the Charles Young Community Center, $173,000, and to permit use of all remaining allocated CDBGR funds for all housing rehabilitation activities and authorizing the mayor to transfer unencumbered funds within the grant budget. Number 26. And number 30, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Irvin County Government to execute an agreement with Friends of Skate Parks, Lexington, Kentucky, Incorporated for website assistance for donations for a skate park. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Is there a motion to approve? So moved. Second. Motion by Council Member Myers, second by Council Member McCord. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. Then we can ask the clerk when you're ready to go. Councilman Lawless. I support the skateboard issue, but since it is unprecedented and I can see that it has the potential of opening a can of worms, which I think is probably good to open, we need to have some kind of process. So I would ask that, request that Vice Mayor Gordon appoint a small task force to look at these issues and kind of put some parameters around what kinds of friends of, et cetera, that we will do this and put a link to our website. I think it's an outstanding idea. I support it. I'm going to vote for it. But I think we need to put some parameters around it. Thank you. All right. So does that need to be in the form of a motion, Vice Mayor? Just make it cleaner with me. All righty. You're going to make that in the form of a motion? I do have a motion. I'd like to make a motion that Vice Mayor Gorton put together a small task force to explore this and other opportunities for volunteers and donations to support government activities in parks or whatever. I'm not hearing what you're saying, George. Is there a second to the motion? My motion is that Vice Mayor Gordon put together a task force to look at ways that we can do a similar project with other government-supported parks, whatever, firefighters, police, who might want to donate or volunteer and link with our website. that there be a process and we look at doing more of this. I think it's an outstanding idea. So the motion is that a task force be put together to examine the parameters of this type of website building and linking for people to donate to friends of trees, friends of sidewalks, friends of... Well, just for a procedural matter, would this be able to be done separately from this vote? Yes, I didn't realize it really required a motion, not an e-motion. All right, then you want to... I'll withdraw my motion. Okay, and just then consult with the Vice Mayor on appointing a task force for this purpose, and then if necessary bring it back to the Council, but it's the Vice Mayor's authority to do that. Okay. Yeah, I just thought she had the authority. I didn't realize it was a motion that needed to be made. Sure. Vice Mayor. I just want to clarify your desire, and it is to examine the parameters for website building for other entities that are nonprofits or? I think they're especially important for those things that support urban county government, such as parks, tree board, whatever. Okay, thank you. And then, Council Members, I'll need a few of you to serve, So please email me if you're willing to serve on this task force. Council Member Henson? I was going to suggest, I don't know if this would work or not, Vice Mayor, but I think we have enough task force. And when we restructured our committees, I think we were trying to get out of that. So I was going to suggest maybe putting it in committee first and take a look at it. And then if it needs more in-depth. Point of order, Mayor, there's a motion on the floor, and I don't think this relates. There's not a motion? She withdrew it. There was a motion for the second readings, and we've gotten off track from our original motion. So there's a motion on the floor, and I was just going to see if we could get back on track and vote. All right. So Vice Mayor has asked for Council Members to offer input through an email if they wish to serve on this task force. Yeah, Vice Mayor. Mayor, I agree with Council Member Crosby about getting back on track, but I think Council Member Henson has highlighted a very good proposal to put this into maybe general gov, which we could do later with a separate motion. All right. All right, is there any further discussion then? Council Member Martin. Thank you, Mayor. I just want to say that I think this is a creative idea that has a huge amount of merit to explore. But for something that came in late in the afternoon that we're going to double read, it has too many implications, I think, for what our standard policy is going to be. The government and our computer service department are stretched so thin right now that I am not ready to step down a path which could lead to having the Friends of the Tree coming to the city to ask that we design a website for them. There's also issues about whether or not we're endorsing a group by having a link from our website to the other group. And I appreciate Council Member Myers bringing this forward and that he's kind of worked with legal, but I haven't talked with legal yet, and I still have some concerns. So at this point, anyway, I'm not able to support it. Thank you, Mayor. No. Council Member Lane. First, I'd like to blackball the motion to put that in the general government just a little. But, no, my concern is very similar. is what if some group that is an antisocial group or has some position that is counter to what the government stands for or the people of our community stand for wants to be the friends of something. I feel like this is really loosey-goosey and there's too many variables in there. And I, too, just walking it on on this short of notice, I think it's not appropriate either. I think this deserves a little bit more discussion if we're going to do it. I'm not opposed to the idea. I just don't think we have arms around all the ramifications of the ordinance or the resolution there. Thank you. Councilman McCord. Can I point out that our parks and rec has been gutted? We don't have any money. We've sat up here and we've talked about pools. We've talked about $50 million worth of capital need improvement, deferred maintenance. We're talking about a group that's putting money back into our parks. We sat here and we're talking about task forcing it and looking at this and looking at that and procedure. And, you know, at the end of the day, we're talking about a group that's saying we want to put some money into government, not take money from government. I think what's happened is that we kind of get off on this track of over-legislating and over-thinking things. And at the end of the day, if there's some other group that wants to come forward, let them come forward. This group just came and did it, and I firmly support anybody that wants to help us with some of these needs. So I would just encourage my colleagues to stop overthinking this and not make it more complex than it needs to be. Say yes to a vote to receive some money and work with some folks. All right, does anyone else wish to speak on motion? Mr. Lane. I mean, I agree with you, Council Member McCord. We need to raise money for the parks. I'm definitely in agreement with that. But to walk it on and get a double read, and I know absolutely nothing about how the business plan for this is structured, who's going to administer what, who has to do what, how we're going to get paid, who keeps records. I mean, there's a lot of loose ends here, which, you know, I think it's bad practice to vote in a resolution and we don't even know what the deal is. and I don't know enough about it that I can support it at this time. But that's my concern. I'm not a, and I agree with you, it's going to go into my committee, so, and you're Vice Chair, okay, so we can definitely move it through with a dispatch, but I'm just concerned about, you know, pulling the trigger with really not that much consideration. Thank you. Mr. Myers. Thank you, Mayor. The first thing I want to say is for someone to say that it's inappropriate to walk something on when that's the rules that govern this body is a little bit interesting to me. But secondly, this has been through legal, this has been through parks, this has been through computer services. I spent about 45 minutes on the phone today talking to Philip Stifel. We've not asked him to put this in front of any work that the government already has lined out for the employee that would be doing this. they actually can get it done much quicker than the 30 days, but we put the 30 days in there just so that there would be all kinds of time to get it done and even assured him that if it didn't get done in that time frame, we'd still be okay. So when people say things like they haven't seen a business plan, there's no business plan. There's nothing that the city's going to be getting paid for either, so I'm not sure about that. but what I said earlier was that we formed this after Friends of the Parks, Friends of the Dog Parks. It's the exact same thing. We looked at the law department, went through several of the different agreements that they have with both of those two entities over the years when they drafted this one. Again, this was drafted by legal. It's been through Parks and Rec. Jerry has offered some amendments to the document. Those were included. So it's been vetted by everybody in government that it's going to have a part in it. So I just hope that you guys support this and let it go on through. Thank you. Councilor Blase. I agree that this has been a thoughtful process, and it's not been a quick operation. It's been, I think, for several weeks this has been in progress and follows up on the decision to close the pool but to make a better use in that park. I agree with Council Member McCord that we have a group willing to do some work to actually produce, come forward, and help us out in our parks. It's an excellent model. Finally, I'd add that there's not been a motion yet to put this issue, whatever the issue is, in the General Government Committee. And if there is, it's up to the Council whether to do so. So I'll support this motion and encourage my colleagues to do so. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Councilor, Vice Mayor Gordon. Thank you, Mayor. Some of the comments have, I think, revolved around LFUCG doing work for the nonprofit. so I guess on page two maybe it would be helpful to clarify number 5B. It was my understanding there would simply be that LFUCG would be building the website and then putting a link on. This says to the website host. does that make LFUCG the host of the website? It doesn't, does it? No, ma'am. And you're absolutely right. All they're doing is creating the website and putting it out there. But B is that Friends of the Skate Park is responsible for not only finding who's going to host the website, the domain name, but also paying those fees. So there isn't anything that LFUCG is going to be paying. All they're doing is creating a website and putting a link on their website. That's all they're doing. And so does B also mean that the Friends of the Skate Parks will pay LFUCG to build the website? No, that's the in-kind part that they're getting. And the history, part of the reason we were doing that was because they wanted to be able to donate through the website, and we wanted to make sure we had a found, secure website in order to get that done. But that's really all LVCD is doing is designing the website and then putting a link on their website to that website. But the hosting of it and the paying for it being hosted and all that stuff is the organization's responsibility. Thank you. Thank you. All right. I don't see anyone else signed on to speak, so we're ready to vote then. Madam Clerk. Call the roll, please. Mr. Ford? Yes. Ms. Gorton? Aye. Ms. Henson? Yes. Mr. Lane? Yes. No, I'm 30. I'll note that. Thank you. Ms. Lawless? Yes. Mr. Martin? Yes. No, I'm 30. Thank you. Mr. McCord? Yes. Mr. Myers? Yes. And yes, on 30. Mr. Stennett? Mr. Beard? Aye. Mr. Blues? Yes. Ms. Cosby? Yes, on 211-23. No on the rest. Thank you. Mr. Ellinger? Yes. Mr. Farmer? Yes, ma'am. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Madam Clerk. The vote reflects passage on the motion. All right. Next on our agenda, communications from the Mayor. Second. Motion by Council Member Crosby to approve, second by Council Member Myers. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. And item 678. 6, 7, 8. Communications from the mayor is for information only. And number 9 is announcements. and the floor is open for announcements from the council. Does anyone on the council have anything to announce? Council Member McCord. Just real quickly, Mayor and CAO Maloney, as we move into this kind of nasty weather time frame and whether we have school or not, would we just make sure that we're talking with the school board and the school superintendent, this new superintendent? I know during the budget process we talked about sharing some of the SALT requirements and the schools being the ones that kind of put the pressure on us and us having the discussion with them to maybe fund some of that. So if you would, just make sure that that doesn't fall off the radar. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Is there any other council members? Councilman Crosby. Mayor, I was hoping that somewhere along this week that we just might take the opportunity and send our condolences to the Gatewood-Galbreath family. and I probably should have mentioned to you prior to the meeting that maybe our moment of silence could have been a time to reflect on what he was to our community and what a colorful figure he was and I know that you participated in his service but as a body for somebody who did so much for our community I learned a lot about what he did for the homeless and the Carnegie Center and on and on and on and I just want to acknowledge and I guess as a body send our condolences to the family and keep them in prayer. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Crosby. Council Member Henson. Thank you, Mayor. I was thinking that we need to put in, I wanted to make a motion to put into committee the website, I'm not sure what to call it, What are you trying to do? Council Member Lawless, the concerns with the website, I thought we would put that into General Gov. Yes. Would you want to state what exactly you want looked at? I'd like to move to put into General Gov a process by which nonprofits and other entities that support LFUCG functions and divisions and are building websites or putting their links on our websites. All right. Is that sufficient? If that's a motion from you, then I'll sack you. Okay, thank you. I just want to move on to your process. Let's see. Council Member Gordon. I just had a comment when Council Member Lane, if this motion passes when your committee looks at it, It would be a very good thing to have the list of all the nonprofits that currently raise money for government, because there are a lot. All right. We have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion on the motion? Councilor Myers. Thank you, Mayor. Being that what has been moved is a budgetary issue, I would move to amend this to put this into budget and finance. So moved. How did this get to be a budgetary issue when it wasn't for the state boards? The issue you're talking about is people raising money for government. Before we start discussing it, is there a motion? Is there a second to the motion? Second. Yeah, there's no second. Yeah, that was very clever. Very clever. All right, motion. The motion fails for the lack of a second by a second person, by a second council member. All right. Is there any discussion on the council member lane? All right. I think if we're going to undertake to evaluate the opportunities to raise money for the parts of the divisions of government, perhaps we could just broaden the scope of this to look at any opportunity done or right into the operations of government, whether it be for not-for-profits or for-profit entities. For example, maybe perhaps sponsorship of a park area might be another idea that we could bring up. We do it all at one time. So I'd like to make an amendment that it would be for-profit and not for-profit entities. So move. I accept that as a friendly amendment. So it's offered as a friendly amendment without objection. Council Member, all right, four is available. We're still on discussion. Does anyone else wish to speak on the motion? Council Member Myers. Thank you, Mayor. I was just wondering, the Vice Mayor and I were having a sidebar, if this isn't something that maybe the Park Advisory Board would want to take a look at. All right. That's a council member that's not offered as a motion, so Council Member, Vice Mayor Gordon, do you have a wish to speak? My only comment is that the Parks Board, if they looked at it, would look simply at nonprofits that raise money for parks. They would not do that for the whole government. All right. All right. If there's no further discussion, then we can take a vote on a motion. Council Member Henson? I really seriously, though, think that we need to take a look at and make sure that if other agencies are on our website, that we control the content of those websites and I think Council Member Lane did bring something up too. And I think each of you made very good points when you were speaking against Council Member Meyer's motion, so I certainly think it would be worth checking and investigating and researching further. So thank you. All right. Council Member Vice Mayor Gordon? Well, now, since Council Member Henson said that, I would not be supportive of our government controlling the websites of nonprofits. Now, that raises a red flag for me. And so I guess my question to Council Member Myers is, did you discuss with law the content of the Friends of the Skate Park website and whether there's any relation to that and their link going on the government website. Did that issue come up? I actually wasn't privy to a lot of the conversation. But, you know, if it becomes that much of an issue and the legal team decides that maybe they shouldn't put the link on the website, then we're fine with that. So I'm not going to call you up and put you on the spot. if you want to come up, you can. I mean, I think in general we can study it in committee. Getting into control of content might be problematic. That's why I think we're going to have the link, which links it to content that's private. But we'll be glad to further explore that committee if we need to. While you're here, can I ask, do we not have a page on our website that has a whole bunch of links to a whole bunch of other websites on it? I have not reviewed the website completely. I think I pulled up the parks website to look at it, and it talks a little bit about the Triangle Foundation. But I can't tell you right off how many links to different things we have. I just haven't done a full review of that. I believe if Councilman will take a look, there's several links to other websites on our website, and no one's ever raised the issue of content on those other websites or control of it or anything else. So I welcome the lively discussion. I'm glad that I was able to bring something to the new year that we'd have some more work to do. Thank you, Mayor. Okay. Thank you, Councilman Myers. All right. Ready to take a vote then on the motion? The motion is to place this issue in where? General government. All right. Councilman Blues. Well, I think that's a good question. What is the issue? Is there some issue here that somebody has brought up that makes sense that we really need to devote this attention to? I'd like to hear the issue articulated on which we're going to... All right, let's go back to the motion then. Council Member Lawless, would you please restate the motion? Are you kidding? Could you restate the motion? I didn't write it down because I wasn't planning on making it. I thought Peggy was. I rest my case, Mayor. I'll call the question. Second. All right, there's been a motion to call the question and second. Oh, wait a minute. Place into general government committee processes by which nonprofits and others. That's no lawless. The question has been called, so. Oh, excuse me. Yes. All in favor of the motion, please indicate by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, no. All right, show of hands, please. All in favor of the motion, please indicate by saying aye. All opposed, no. No. All right, show of hands, please. All in favor of the motion, please raise your hand. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. All opposed? One, two, go. What is it? Wait a minute. All right, let's vote electronically. All in favor of the motion, please vote yes. Motion is to put in committee. What's your vote, please? I'll record it. So what is it? One, two. I have to vote? The motion passes. Put the motion into General Gov. Yes. Whatever that issue may be. All right. Now, we have several folks signed up for public comment. Mr. Lane? Oh, maybe some of these folks, of all. Mr. Lane is here. Yes, sir. Chris has an announcement. Oh, Chris, I'm sorry. Before, Mr. Lane, before you just hold right there. Thank you, sir. Council Member Ford has an announcement. Thank you, Mayor. Just two quick announcements. The first one is that the Commission on Youth Development and Public Safety is nearing the end of its work. It's going to have a meeting at the William Wells Brown Community Center next Wednesday, January 18th, beginning at 530 through 730. We're hoping that the community and the youth will come out. And then also I'd just like to quickly acknowledge all the hard work that is going on in our community as we speak in preparing for the Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. birthday weekend observed. and I hope that our community can come out and celebrate and acknowledge the contributions of civil rights and human rights. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Ford. All right. Now, Mr. Lane, would you please introduce yourself and give us your address, please, sir? And I think you have a clock up there, I noticed, so you know that there's a three-minute rule. Thank you, sir. My name is Bruce Lane, and I'm resident of 304 Bentfow Place, Lexington. And I'm here to talk to the council about the Lexington-Fayette Urban County government violating a Kentucky law, KRS 65.870. I have some copies if you'd like me to pass them around. Would that be something you'd be interested in looking at? Thank you. citizen to understand and abide by. There's a long history of this. I won't bore you with the whole thing, but basically 2009, I tried to rent a pavilion at the park, and rule number nine was referenced in the rental agreement, and it was no firearms in the park. So I called Jerry Hancock and explained to him that 65.870 doesn't allow that, and he quickly capitulated on the matter. He didn't like it. He definitely didn't agree with the law, but he recognized the law for what it was, and so that came down. And then in 2010, there was a first rule for the libraries was only police officers were allowed to carry firearms in the library. I think they worded it deadly weapons. So I was going to call the director of the libraries, I guess, Ms. Imhoff. I think she was in the process of being terminated for buying beer and pizza with funds or something. But anyway, I ended up speaking with Martha White. She was the acting director of the library. And she eventually capitulated, but first she used some of my tax dollars to hire a high-priced downtown lawyer. And he told her that I didn't know what I was talking about. And I was completely wrong on all substantive matters, but then told her exactly what I told her, which was that urban county government can regulate firearms only in the matter of concealed carry but not an open carry. So anyway, they eventually took that down, and we don't have that anymore in the library, but now we have metal detectors downstairs, and that's another violation of KRS 65.870. Its only purpose is to deprive people of the right to keep and bear arms. I'd spoken to Mayor Gray about it. I gave him a few months to settle into the job and called, thinking I'd set up an appointment with someone from his office, but I was pleased that he picked up the phone and talked to me in person. But he didn't seem at all compelled to abide by the state law, so I'm here asking you to hopefully address that issue. The law is real simple. You can read it for yourself. It's one simple sentence, and it's been upheld repeatedly. I don't think it's ever been not upheld. So I would ask you to address that issue if you would. Thank you, Mr. Lane. Thank you, sir. I do remember that phone call. Yes. I don't know if, yeah, okay. Does anyone else wish to speak to the council tonight? I have Mr. Seals has already spoken. Connie Kell. Ms. Kell. All right. And Bernard McCarthy. Your Honor and members of the Council, traffic is already horrible in this city, and it seems to be worse tonight even than usual. Please do not do anything that's going to make things worse yet. By that I mean all of our downtown pairs of one-way streets, at least the ones that are one-way across the entire length of downtown, really need to stay one way. if you're so enthusiastic about two-way streets, instead of changing our one-way streets to two-way, try extending some of the two-way streets that already exist but aren't all that lengthy. For instance, extend Midland Avenue from 3rd Street to the corner of Magnolia Avenue in Zesta Place, and extend Magnolia from 7th out to the corner of Floyd and Loudoun. You could extend Jefferson Street from 6th to Russell Cave. You could extend 5th Street at both ends. You could probably extend 6th at both ends as well. And I would suggest extending 4th eastward a little too. But really, if you tie downtown into knots the way that the rest of the street pattern, at least inward from New Circle, funnels toward downtown, is if you tie downtown into a knot, those of us living inside New Circle but outside of downtown itself have really no way to get places except go outward to New Circle and take the long way around. And that burns a lot more fuel and makes a lot more pollution. I don't think we really want that. And I will say today's weather, it seems to have made the traffic worse long before any of the snow actually started sticking to the pavement. I'm not sure how much of this is due to people like me that maybe would have pedaled or walked in good weather, drove because of the crummy weather and how much is due to people actually making extra trips for it gets joked about. Maybe there's some truth to it that people really are going out and trying to buy up all the milk and bread before somebody else does. But you get the idea, though. No matter how much we put into bike lanes and sidewalks, when you get weather like this, most of us are going to have to drive. So we still need the capacity for the cars and trucks. Thank you, Mr. McCarthy. I have nobody else signed up for public comment tonight. The floor is available for a motion to adjourn. Second. Motion by Council Member Myers, second by Vice Mayor Gordon. Is there any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. We are adjourned. All right. Thank you.