Music Thank you. guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Today is April 24th, and this is the Council's Committee of the Whole budget meeting. Those of you who've been around government for a while understand that during the budget season, the Budget and Finance Committee morphs into a Committee of the Whole, chaired by the vice mayor to look at the proposed budget, which is now in the council's purview. And so our topic for today is to have an analysis of the mayor's proposed budget. and Connie Underwood has been assisting and, shall we say, training our council administrator on the ins and outs of our LFUCG budget. And so with that, I'll go ahead and turn this over to Connie Underwood, And we'll hear your analysis, and then we'll have time for questions, and we can also look at the council's budget schedule for the next upcoming several weeks. So with that, Connie Underwood will give us our presentation. Good afternoon. Some of you may realize already that in addition to what I'm presenting today, I have created some reports for the LINCS Committee to use to review budgets for your process, reports that include prior year, actual, and a current year to date. I sent that out, and most of the aides have access to them. They're on your shared drive if you know where that is. If you don't, let me know. It's a great place where we store information that everybody can have access to. So today we wanted to talk about the Mayor's proposed budget for 2013. One of the things I always like to do is to talk about so everybody remembers what our budgetary structure is. The urban county government's budget is divided into several funds that are grouped according to category. The first of those funds and the main one that we mostly talk about because it provides most of the services to our residents is the General Services District. The General Services District does police fire planning, parks, libraries, and other community services. And the funding for the General Services District is primarily three places, employee withholdings, net profit license fees, and property taxes. But when you look at your CAFR, your annual audit that you get, the general fund totals also include, because this is general services district versus general fund, the donation fund, tenant relocation, miscellaneous special revenue, and those are the three main ones that you will find in your audit. In addition to the general services, we have the urban services fund. We've talked about that a lot recently with the street light issues. It also takes care of refuse collection and street cleaning. Residents in our community who have those services pay a separate property tax to receive those services in the districts that they're in. In addition, we have a handful of special revenue funds. these account for specific revenue sources that are legally restricted for specific expenditures we have our confiscated police confiscated funds there are three of those at this point i think our public safety fund our municipal aid program fund municipal aid pays for road resurfacing and improvements in the county we have our city county our county aid program fund that does the same and is county oriented our mineral severance fund and our coal severance funds and our capital projects funds which account for our major capital and construction projects in this government if we issue bonds or notes for a project we budget for those in the capital projects funds in order to have the project stay open over time because these funds stay open and roll from year year. We also have some enterprise funds. They are supposed to be self-supporting through charges from services to qualify to be an enterprise fund. Our major enterprise fund is our sanitary sewer system, our water quality system, our landfill. Then we have some smaller ones, our right-of-way, our extended school program, which is our after-school program for kids, our prisoner's account that takes care of the commissary funds, Enhance 911, which is part of a fee on your telephone bill, and our Lex Van service where riders pay to be a part of the Lex Van program, and the funding that they pay helps provide operating expenses and replace the vans. And we have some public corporations that are actually sort of left over from the time before we could issue bonds. And our parks projects fund is also in the public corporations domain. We have two pension trust funds, our city employees pension fund and our police and firefighters fund. And we hold these as a trustee. We manage the funds and the money for the funds, but they aren't government-specific funds. Our internal services funds, we use these to account for when we're transferring or financing services from one fund to the other. We have two of those. Our medical insurance, where our health insurance and vision, dental are all taken care of, is one of our internal service funds. And the other is our property and casualty claims fund, and that takes care of our self-insurance needs. Of course, the most important fund for most people is our General Services District Fund because most of the services are provided from that fund. I wanted to show you today the Summary of Revenue Appropriations. You will have seen a portion of this in your Mayor's Proposed Budget document. I included the prior year actual in putting this one together. In going through the numbers for the prior year actual, one of the things I noticed was that the general fund actually ended 11 with a deficit of $943,000. The 2012 adopted had a proposed beginning fund balance of $500,000, which obviously we did not make, and we're looking at $1.5 million to carry over from 2012 into 2013 in the proposed budget plan. I wanted to tell you this because some people, when I said I saw a negative 943, everybody said, but it's 562, 360 in unassigned fund balance for the general fund, which is true, but that 562, 360 comes from those several funds that make up the general fund in the audit. Your audit is more than just the general, the general fund is more than just general services district. There's funds sitting still in our Family Care Center fund that we don't actually use anymore. We formally did Medicare through that from the Family Care Center, and they're sitting on about a half million dollars. We have a donations fund that we use for when people donate money for specific causes. We account for those funds there. We've created a tenant relocation fund that gets money from the General Services District and has $50,000 budgeted to add to that this proposed fiscal year. Our miscellaneous special revenue fund and a bond pension obligation fund, which has about $97,000 in it, for the total of the $562,360 that you see when you look at your CAFR. Our revenue for the General Services District, as you can see, We're looking at a proposed revenue of $289,277. That's a $14.8 million increase over our adopted 2012, which is 5.4% overall. That is quite a bit different than what we saw last year when we looked at proposed budget for 2012. It's quite a bit higher. Our main category of revenue is license and permits. It's our largest category of revenue, and the top four sources in that category are our employee withholdings, which is what employees pay who work in the county, our business returns that businesses pay on their net profits, insurance, and franchise fees. When you combine those three revenues, the top three revenues, not including franchise fees, They're expected to grow by 6% for 2013. Like I said, that's a considerably better projection than what we saw last year at this time when we were looking at the mayor's proposed budget. Employee withholdings is our salaries, wages, and commissions at 2.25%. It's 56%, however, of all the general services revenue, which is a little over half of our money for our major projects or services comes from employee withholdings. and it's very responsive to changes in the economy because it's all about employment. And as wages go up and employment goes up, we benefit from that. As those go down, as they do when the economy is bad, we also have to deal with downturns. We have been generally much more immune than some areas of the country to the economic downturns because we have a large number of education and government and health care employees in our area. This is a listing of the top ten employers for 2011. Our major employer in Lexington is the University of Kentucky, followed by the Fayette County Board of Education. So there's two of our government education entities. St. Joseph Hospital, the Lexington Fayette Urban County Government is what makes this list. Lexmark, ACS, Baptist Healthcare, Walmart, Lockheed Martin, and then finally Kroger. IBM at one time was a part of our list but has since fallen off. So we have had some downturns in the past in our economy, but the one that we just experienced obviously lasted longer than had done in the past. As you can see, there's some downturns, but it's usually just a year. And the one from 2008 to 2010 was longer and harder than the ones in the past. The 2013 projected budget is a more normal growth rate than we've had in the past. So what do we see in employee holdings right now? Collections for 2012 are at 2.4% over 2011. They were budgeted to be at 1.6%, so we are doing much better at the moment than we had anticipated in the budget. For 2013, the projected rate is 3.8%. However, that's over our original 2012. If 2012 comes in at the 2.4% that they're looking at at the moment, the actual growth rate would drop to 1.7%. And there's the schedule. As you can see, we had $153 million in 2011. We're looking at adopted of $156 and proposed of $162. So that's $5.9 million more than the adopted budget for 2012. Business returns are license fees on net profits. This is 11% of general services revenue, and it's projected to be $4.4 million from adopted last year to proposed 2013, an increase, if you look at adopted to proposed, of 5.4%. This is also very impacted by the ups and downs in the local economy. And for 2012, the collections were down 1.4% over 2011, but we budgeted to have them be down 5.4%. So they're still down, but a much better downward progression than we had anticipated. The mayor's proposed budget shows a revised estimated growth for 2012 in this category of 5.2%, so that they're looking for it to actually even improve more between now and the end of the year. For 2013, if that 5.2% increase happens, the growth rate for 2013 drops from that 15% that I showed you earlier to 4%, which is a much lower rate of growth than first appeared. Insurance, our third large category of revenues, there are fees imposed for our insurance companies for premiums that are received on risk-infected county. So life insurance has a 5% fee, and all other insurance have a 5% fee annually. Life insurance is only in the first year that you take out a life insurance policy. And this provides 8% of all general services revenue. So as you can see, the employee withholdings at 56%, our next largest category is 11%. So after employee withholdings, they get a much smaller piece of the pie. They're subject to year-to-year fluctuations. Currently, they're collecting 4.2% above those from 2011. The proposed budget estimates a 5.9% growth rate, which is much higher than the 2.3% that we were looking at in the budget originally. And the proposed for next year is at 5.7%. Obviously, if the current budget comes in at 5.9, that 5.7 goes down. Then it drops to 2%. So this category is $23 million estimated for next year and was adopted at $22 million for the current year. Franchise fees is another area where we receive revenue that's significant for the general fund. This is on our public service companies that pay for their franchise fee right-of-ways in the county. It's 7% of all general services revenue, and the proposed budget includes a projected fee increase for gas and electric. And part of that increase included the idea of transferring $2.5 million to the Urban Services Fund for street lights. As you can see, franchise fees was 15.8. I didn't change the headers on that one. 17.6 and 18.5. Our next category is our charges for services. At $21.4 million estimated for next year and $20.9 million adopted for 2012. There are several items within that category. The first is our golf course collections. Our golf course collections are budgeted to remain relatively flat for 2013. There's a small difference of $11,770, but I don't know that that's consequential for the overall budget. Parks and Recreation, I believe, includes closing Berry Hill and Constitution Pools. Our EMS collections, as you can see, at a $200,000 increase or 3% growth is pretty strong for 2013. Our building permits, although it looks like they're going up quite a bit at 13.5% on the chart compared to original, they're projecting that 2012 will come in at the 907.8, and so it will be flat for next year. And detention revenue is up $320,000, and this is, according to what I found out, a result of better reporting that they plan to do for the next fiscal year. It was a result of better reporting for the detention revenue. Ad valorem, although it also shows an increase over our adopted budget, in the proposed budget, it's flat compared to what they now propose 2012 will be. So they're looking at no increase in property values from this year to next and no change in the rate, I would presume. Our other revenue sources that we have are fines and forfeitures and intergovernmental. Our fines are our ABC fines. They're not expected to meet their current 2012 projections and the FY13 estimate reflects this newer projection. Our intergovernmental revenue, there's a reduced collection rate for 2012, and it also reflects that we don't anticipate then as much in 2013. Property sales, 2011 included the sale to the Agricultural Extension Office of the property on Red Mile Road. We have no property sales included in this budget, nor did we have any projected for 2012. Other financing sources, this is our transfer from the landfill fund for this year's payment from Republic. In 2011, this category included some transfers from urban and sewers for self-assurance administrative costs, and these are not included in this manner for 2013. Our other income includes our penalties and interest. at $1.6 million, our school board tax fee, which is very small at $12,000, and other income at $81,200. The $154,800 downward route projection in our other income is a reflection of where they anticipate 2012 to come in at. Expenditures. In 2012, personnel made up 66% of our overall budget. With debt service at 12, partner agencies at 6, operating at 14, and then insurance at 2, transfers and capital are such a small number that they don't actually show anything in our pie chart. For 2013, the pie chart changes slightly with personnel decreasing to 65%. Partner agencies remain the same. Debt service goes down by a percent. Insurance goes up by a percent. operating stays the same and transfers has changed enough to actually put them in at 1%. Our largest expenditure is still and always has been our personnel cost for the urban county government. The personnel at $185 million accounts for 65% of all of the budget for the General Services District. And the increase that's projected is $6.9 million, and it's driven by the following items. The largest change is in our pension costs, followed by our sworn salaries, overtime, our payroll recoveries, other salaries, some generic ones that I listed as other. Our temporary and seasonal and part-time are actually down $107,000. Our special duty is also down $344,000. Uniforms and equipment for police and fire is down almost $450,000. And there's a big overall reduction in what I saw for health insurance at $2.8 million for the total of $6.9 million. We also have payments that we make to our partner agencies at $17.7 million. These are non-governmental programs, such as the library and various economic and social organizations. They receive either full or partial funding from us. I think most of them at this point are partials and no longer any full payments. The total funding for part... Sorry, is there a reason why the personnel costs weren't compared from year to year? Because we've got a lot of charts that show where we were last year and the year before, but that one doesn't show how we compared the previous year. I didn't stick it in. I can certainly give you one. That would be great. Thanks. So partner agencies has actually increased this year by $129,703. in the projection. So in the last fiscal year, most of you know that we put in a new process for determining what agencies would receive funding, and the result was that some agencies, most agencies were reduced. There were a few that were eliminated altogether, and we actually have four new agencies that were funding for 2013, and they're listed there, the Kentucky Pink Connection, the Kentucky Refugee Ministries, the Lexington Rescue Mission, and the Prevent Child Abuse Kentucky. I think everybody has pretty much felt that having the committee go through and truly review our agencies to make a determination on their funding has worked very well. Our overall partner agency is at $17.7 million, but of that, our library receives $13.3 million. So the bulk of our partner agency funding actually is given to the library. Debt service. Debt service is projected to be $33 million for the next fiscal year. This is both our long and our short-term debt for public projects. An increase, this $33 million is $850,000 more than the prior year. And an additional $2.7 million is included for anticipated bond issues. This is the chart for debt service payments for next year. You can see toward the top the anticipated debt issues that were $1.4 million for 2012 and are at $4.1 million for 2013. There's also a large decrease in the payment for our GO 2008A bond from $3.6 million to $2 million. I think this is a category that you're all going to do a lot more discussion on on Thursday, I believe, when you talk about debt and what's planned and where we are. Insurance. Now this is our payments to our self-insurance fund as opposed to on the revenue side where people are paying us. This is our payments for our self-insurance fund for claims for workers' comp and general liability, auto liability, physical damage. It is increased by $2.3 million for 2012. One of the major differences that took place this year is prior to 2013, the funding for this was put in one place in one division. For 2013, the administration has gone through and made an allocation of those payments within all the divisions and shown what would be their appropriate portion of the funding that we send to the insurance fund. So you'll see a lot of the divisions have an increase in their budget for next year, and it's primarily due to having this allocated to them where it wasn't there before. It's a really good move to start trying to capture all costs of a division in the division, but you'll see differences as you go through the next year's budget. Our operating costs. Our planned costs for 2013 are $40.3 million. These are all our day-to-day general stuff, our operating supplies, our pens and paper, our telephone costs, our fuel and utilities, and professional services for various professional agencies that we have to hire to get our jobs done. There's an increase of 2.3 projected for next year. I'll also get you a comparison on this if you'd like, Mr. Martin. So indirect costs for next year, although indirect costs are generally a credit to expenses for the general fund, if those go down, then it swings the other way and becomes an expense on the different side because the credit isn't as large. And the change in indirect costs for next year is $1.5 million. We have an increase in clothing of $244,000. I think that this may reflect switching from clothing for sworn coming out, being given to them in paychecks, to being a difference. Hi, I'm Paul Chartier. $3,000 in what we're planning for grant match for the next year. And as most of us have experienced personally, fuel and repairs is up by $221,000 going into 2013. Operating is $214,813. We have an increase in maintenance costs. Training and travel, there were several divisions as I went through who were looking to try to get some certifications back in where they didn't have money before in order to keep their employees certified to do their job. Assistance is primarily to the adult and tenant services to provide help for our low-income residents in Lexington. Equipment is essentially minor equipment that everybody needs to replace as it breaks professional services at $34,000. And then the really nice and surprising fact was that utilities is actually budgeted to go down by over half a million dollars for next year, primarily in gas, as I recall. So we also have a category called transfers. This is where we transfer funds from one fund to another. As you can see, we have $600,000 in there as a planned addition to the Rainy Day Fund. We have road project transfers in there, but they are less at $1.5 million than last year. Urban Services, that $2.5 million that you see is the transfer of franchise fees for streetlights. Our Police and Fire Pension Fund is up. Our transfer to that for administrative costs and health insurance is up by $4.1 million. City employees is up by $192,900, or is $192,900. These aren't up by, these are what they are. Tenant relocation, we're putting that $50,000 in to transfer to that fund you saw earlier. Our PFC general fund, we transfer funds there to offset the debt costs for some old bond issues, primarily the courthouse facility. It was also pools, but that may have been paid off. This is net. That fund also receives some revenue from the Kentucky Theater and some interest income. And so what you see in the transfer is a net. Fleet services recoveries. This is the transfer that takes place to cover personnel costs in fleet services. As they do their work, they charge out to the other divisions and the other funds, and they recover that money here. Park impact fees. These are your additional building permit fees or your parkland fees. They're estimated to be $190,000 for next year. And finally, you see a transfer to the extended school program. That program has had a budget deficit for the last couple of years. It's on our enterprise funds as a self-funding enterprise, but it's not at this point being self-funding. So the parks committee might want to have to take a look at what we're doing in terms of fees. for that area so we have six hundred four thousand two hundred dollars in actual capital budgeted for next year is cash out of the general fund and they're just small items really we have our copy machine lease in the council office personal protective equipment for fire some safety equipment for fire a small amount for landscaping our parks and recreation, we have some hike bike trails, some construction for the areas, some renovation. I believe that might be the money that's going to fix those pools that are going to be taken out, and a small amount for some construction on some tennis courts. In addition, there's $3.5 million budgeted for capital in our bond fund. This would be where we plan to issue bonds, or notes in this case, to pay for certain items. so there's streets and roads will receive 150,000 for sidewalks and driveways traffic engineering gets 75,000 for signal equipment and traffic devices the public safety administration straighter the emergency operations center that the mayor spoke of in his speech that 800,000 is there to renovate a building community corrections has some money for equipment at 160 fire, some more safety equipment at $30,000. Facilities and fleet, a lot of that money is the automobiles. These are a replacement of automobiles. Obviously, we're not replacing, apparently, any police cars in this money, except police, at $500,000. Some GPS units, some building repairs, HVAC services, roofing and downspout at $590,000. And then we have our parks and recreation amounts, some more construction money, some sport court area money, and some renovation money. There's our $3.5 million that's in our planned, bonded projects for next year. So as you can see, our departmental expenditures, public safety is our largest department at 55% of the proposed budget. It far overshadows all the rest of the divisions that are out there. We have social services is only 3%. Our general services, 10. Partner agencies still at 6. General government is some divisions, some smaller divisions that we've rolled together here like finance. Our chief administrative officer is 3%. Non-departmental would be our indirect cost and our contract debt. We have finance at 2%, environmental policy and public works at 4%, and law is 1%. You can see the changes from year to year by these departments in government. The biggest change that we have is our $10 million in public safety. Some of what you see in the changes within the divisions, if you see law is down by 4.8, That's part of the movement of the insurance money out to the other divisions so that we can more accurately reflect divisional costs. Some of the increases that you see within the divisions are part of that $4.8 million. Obviously, the biggest and the biggest increase that we've got dollar-wise is our public safety allocation for next year. We have $3.5 million that would be our non-departmental, which is indirect cost and contract debt, and general services has a large portion at $2 million. And I think a lot of the general services is their allocation for the self-insurance fund. Staffing changes for next year. There are a reduction of a net of 10 for the next fiscal year. 18 general fund funded positions are not funded, and we have eight new positions that will come into play. But of the 18 that are not funded in the general fund, 12 of those have actually been moved to the Urban Services Fund to more accurately reflect where they should be predominantly. Those are our government communications call takers. Urban Services receives most of the calls that come into them, And so they are now in urban services primarily and recovered from general and sewers for the portions that general and sewers should pay. So it's a net reduction of 10 positions. That's all I have on the slides. I also have put in front of you a summary booklet with a lot more detailed information about not only these overall groups, but the actual divisions themselves. and all the other funds, summary and revenue appropriations listing. And I think that's it. Thank you very much, Connie. Council members are logging in with their questions. And I wonder if first you would just explain again about, from your perspective, the difference in the fund balance, what you believe it is and what the council was told it was? Well, the CAFR, if you look at your CAFR, it shows an unassigned general fund balance of $562,000. But the general fund is several funds combined. And we speak of the General Services District when we're talking budget. The General Services District is just one of the several funds that are combined that make up that total. Let's see if it'll go. How can I get it up to go back again? So while there are positive numbers amongst the smaller funds, let me go back to that one. The general fund itself was at a negative when I went through and put actual expenditures for 2011 into the system that I have. So general fund is at a negative 943.930, and overall we're at 562.360. when you add those all together and come up with the general fund unassigned fund balance as opposed to the general services district fund unreserved fund balance. Thank you very much. Obviously, and I didn't show it on this. I sent some documents that I sent out and have on there. If you look at our current amended budget, it goes much higher than that because we have since rolled purchase orders from last year to this. and the unassigned fund balance now, according to GASB rules, we no longer reserve our money for purchase orders. It rolls into the unassigned fund balance number, and when you roll purchase orders, you need to have enough unassigned fund balance to cover them now. They used to be set aside, and this number wouldn't have that as a part of it. So the March numbers that I looked at was about $2.2 million. Thank you very much. Now, we do have some council members logged in with questions. Council Member Beard. Thank you, Vice Mayor. A couple of things, Connie. These pages aren't numbered, so it's hard to reference them. I realize that. It's under personnel. There's been a proposal, a declaration, however you might want to call it, that we're going to have two more police and two more fire classes when, I don't know, sometime in 2013, or it will carry over into 2013, obviously. And I noticed that we had a negative on uniform and equipment. And I would think it was the classes that we have going now plus what we're going to have, that we outfit all those folks, especially the fire people, with a bunch of equipment. Was that taken into consideration? I think that when you saw operating, the clothing that went up was a part of what we're going to do. I believe that they're planning to do a quartermaster system now as opposed to giving the employee the money to buy whatever they need initially and otherwise. And if you'll notice on the staffing, FIRE actually has some additional people. Twelve additional people are funded for next year. Police don't actually have any additional people funded for next year. I think that when they talk about having the classes, it's a discussion of making sure that the vacancies are filled, not necessarily additional personnel in numbers. But we have in the past held them back from filling their vacant positions, and I think the plan for next year is to not do that, to let them fill their vacants by having the classes that you mentioned. Okay. Second question involves the $1.5 million match with the state of Kentucky concerning design activities for the arts and entertainment slash Ruppel Arena deal. So is that in here anywhere? Not in the general fund, no. Where else would it be? It's not in here for cash, or I did not see it if it is, and it's not in here as a bond issue for the next year that I saw. So pass a hat. Did I recall that in the speech, though, they talked about using some prior bond money to do that with? Am I right? Maybe. Yeah. I believe that the idea was that we have some bond money that hasn't been spent from previous issues, and the idea is to use some of that to hit the 1.5 million mark. During the links, we found out that there was bond money left over from the Lyric situation also that was not apparent to the council, or at least to the link at all, that that was the case because if everyone will remember, everyone that was here will remember, there was a lot of discussion about outfitting the Lyric with the proper kind of equipment necessary to do what their mission was. And they wanted or asked us for more money to buy a movie projector, which I would have thought would have been the first piece of equipment that they would have bought, not the last piece of equipment. I just had to say that. I'm sorry. And the money, the $1.5 million, probably something we want to discuss on Thursday when we talk about bonding and debt. Okay. Thank you. Connie. Council Member Crosby. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Connie, thank you so much for your presentation. My question is on the very last page with the staffing changes. You had mentioned you were talking about the Urban Service Fund and how employees were being moved to more accurately reflect where they spend their time. Can you just tell the council, was there some kind of audit done, or how was this determined? Because I know there are a few of us who recognized a few years ago during the budget links that we weren't accurately, or there wasn't a consistent way to accurately keep time as to who was doing what and what should be charged to that fund. Can you just tell us how it was determined that they would be moved over to this fund? Thank you. They have been in the general fund primarily with credits coming into the general fund, payments from the urban services and sewers for the portion of time they spend on their work. But generally, when you put your personnel budgets together, you'd like to have the person be primarily where the bulk of their time is spent so that the major cost for them sits in the fund that they're actually doing work for. So this year they switched that, and they've moved these employees to the Urban Services Fund, and now the payments come from General and still Sewers. Sewers is now paying Urban instead of General. We have numerous employees in the government that spend portions of their time doing work for our multiple funds, and for most all of them, we've attempted to make sure that they sit, that their primary residence is the fund that they do the most work for, and then we recover pieces of their time from the other funds. For LexCall, they make that determination on what piece gets charged out based on the number of phone calls that come in for the various services. Yeah, with LexCall we can. Is there any way we could get, I mean, it doesn't have to be who the people are, but just kind of what areas, like LexCol, there are three employees that have moved over to this fund, and what division in government and who got moved over into the fund. That would be helpful. I think that they gave me some information. I can show you the employees and how they're getting charged. That would be wonderful. Thank you so much. Councilmember Lane. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Nice job on this, Connie. I had a couple of questions and a couple of comments. The first question sort of ties into my comment. The data on the expenditures by department, which is one of the last page, and where it says actual, does that come out of our CAFRA for that year? Every year, or last year and this year, when I've come to work for you, I get a file from accounting, and as far as I know, it's the file they use to create the CAFR, and I use that to put the actual in that you all see in the documents that I present for you. Okay. And then the fiscal year 12 that we're currently in, did that have any vacancies that were not filled, included in the budget information for that period? Did you, like, take those out? because I believe this year we took all the vacancies out of the data for this coming fiscal year. I don't recall. I know that the 18 that are unfunded were vacant in the general fund, and I don't recall seeing any funded vacant positions on the list that I got. I'll double-check that, but I don't recall seeing that. All right. And the other question was on the staffing, which is the very last page. This is only for the general fund personnel. Do you have data for the non-general fund? Okay. I think that would be very helpful, too, because we could look at some of the trend for year to year, look at the comparisons. And the only other minor suggestion I have is I think this is an excellent report. I would find it helpful if you had page numbers. I know. And also if you might have a source of data so that we know whether it was the CAFR or it was the budget or our current month-to-month statement or whatever, when it was appropriate. That's all I had. Thank you. Great job on that. I was copying it when I went, oh, I forgot to page number it, but I was almost done at that point. Okay. Well, that's fine. That's not a big deal. Nobody noticed that. And I have put, and I'll put page numbers on it before, Both this document and the summary document are also out in our shared information in our 2013 budget that I created with hearings. And I'll just send you all an e-mail that tells you where you can find it if you want to look at it electronically, as well as all the other reports that I put together. They're all posted there. Could I follow up with one more question? You reviewed this very intensely. Were there any numbers or data that you found that you didn't agree with that seemed to be too optimistic or too conservative? Or did you feel like the numbers were pretty much on the mark? If you look at where 2012 revenue-wise is proposed to hit, if we hit that, then it's not nearly as optimistic as it looks on first blush. If we don't hit that, then the revenues really look like a turn-the-corner sort of thing. It's 2013, so it's about time we turn the corner. Is what you're saying that currently our revenues are running a little ahead? Yeah, they're running quite ahead. But if they slack off towards the end of this fiscal year, that would have an impact in the next year's numbers. Okay. Thank you. Are there any other questions by Councilmembers? Councilmember Stinnett. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Connie, did you say you had a list on the staffing and who was moving where and what positions were either being eliminated or added? I have a total list of what positions have been eliminated or added, yes. Okay, you'll email that to us? I sure will. Okay, thank you. Councilmember Lawless. On the staffing changes, I see community corrections is being cut by one position. And I know at this point they're very understaffed, and I see six more resignations this week. and the other is the E911 and I know that they too are understaffed and working a great deal of overtime last report we had and the E911 are telecommunicator positions and detention is a community correction officer position Right. So I guess that's my question. So when it says Community Corrections 328, is that full staff, if it had a full staff, they'd have 328? 328 is the number of positions that we budgeted funds for for 2012. I won't speak to whether that is sufficient for them or not. That is just what they had in 2012 is 328, and for 2013 the plan is for 327. And E911 was 64. Yes. Can we find out how many of those positions are actually filled at this time? Yes. Or whoever. Yes. That probably isn't your thing, but is it a thing? It is. I have a list that was given to me where they pulled positions for doing the budget, so I know at a given point in time how many were filled or not filled. Okay. I don't know that I have access to decide right today where we stand. Right, right. But I think that's important information. Thank you very much. Council Member Hanson. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Connie, we had a public safety link meeting today with Community Corrections. We were told that they currently have 257 sworn officers at the detention center and another class that will be starting or graduating soon and then another class that will be starting. So they're trying to get to that 328 number or 327 number, but currently it's 257. I know some of our divisions have a very difficult time keeping themselves up to speed because as people leave and the time it takes to train them, detention and police and fire, all three have a huge issue with that. Are you finished? Yes. Council Member Beard. Quick question, Connie. On staffing changes, these listed here are the ones that have changes. These have changes. When I give you the other list, you'll see everybody. Like the council office isn't on here. Right, because you didn't have changes. It's static. It has been. Yeah. Okay. I just wondered. I kept on looking for the council office and I couldn't find it. I think you all sold it to Louisville or something. When I send the list out, it will have everybody and everything. Which may not be a bad idea. I think they get paid better than we do. Are there other council members who have questions? If not, I have a couple of questions. On the last page, the staffing changes, the planning, preservation, and development. are all eight of those positions going in the commissioner's office, or do you know what those are? I forgot to put my little note on that one because... It's the new commissioner and the seven people from building inspection. We had the seven people that you see building inspection lost. They were moved there to be part of that eight, and then we have the commissioner. So the commissioner is in the current budget, so are you counting him as a new position? It was not in the adopted 2012 budget. Oh, I see. He was added in. Okay. Okay, thank you. And then back in the beginning on your second page, you mentioned the special revenue funds. Will there be a point where, and it might be the links that do it, I'm not sure, where we will see what the mineral severance and the coal severance funds are budgeted for, what purpose? The summary booklet that I gave you, the longer booklet, has a summary of revenue and appropriations for each of those funds. Okay. And a very brief, in their case, description of what the money is for. I can tell you that coal and mineral, we're going for street resurfacing. Street resurfacing, coal and mineral severance. And then municipal aid will go for street resurfacing, correct? Street resurfacing. And some street improvements. Okay. All right. Thank you. Council Member Martin. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Does the proposed budget take into account any increases or pay adjustments for the police department since we haven't signed that contract yet? I see a change there when you look at their budget. But even if we didn't change, there would be an amount for their step system in place. So I can't answer that for sure. So you don't know whether it is the next level in the STEP system or whether it is a different number? I do not. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Okay. Are there other questions from Council Members? I know that since Council Members just received this today, Connie, they may, in looking over your information, may have some follow-up on Thursday when you come back to do, when we have our bonding debt and capital and revenue projections. Those will be done by the administration, but would you be available if there are other questions about today's reports? And then I'm trusting they can email you with questions also. Absolutely. Okay, very good. Thank you very much. You're welcome. We really appreciate it. And, Council Members, do you have any other business before we look at the schedule? Any questions? If not, your agenda includes a list of Committee of the Whole budget schedule and a list of the budget link schedule. And links, from what I understand, have been ticking along. And there's been some good feedback that by continuing the same membership of the links from last year, we're getting good continuity. Council members who heard the same link last year are able to connect with this year's. I think that's a good thing. And so our next meeting on your Committee of the Whole Budget schedule is Thursday, April 26th, here in the Chamber at 3.30. And we have revenue projections, bonding, debt, and capital discussions. So we'll be seeing the administration on that. Is there anything else to bring up before the Committee of the Whole? If not, do I hear a motion to adjourn? Okay, motion and second. All those in favor, please say aye. Anyone opposed? We are adjourned. Thank you very much. Unforgettable.