! Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Greetings, hello everyone. I'll call the meeting to order. This is a meeting of the work session of the Council for February 5th. Before we get started, just a quick note of congratulations to Chief Ronnie Bastin, who is with us today, and Chief Bastin has been selected as the Distinguished Professional for 2013 by the Eastern Kentucky University College of Justice and Safety. This award is given to those who have made outstanding contributions in the areas of justice and safety. And Chief Bastin will be honored by Eastern in April. But just wanted to take this opportunity to recognize our chief. He's here with us today, and he has a presentation later. Congratulations, Chief. Yes. All right. Mr. Mundy, has anyone signed up for issues on the agenda today? All right, sir. Thank you very much. Next on our agenda, docket approval or rezonings. I don't have any notice of either. We don't have a council meeting this week, so no approval is required. Next on our agenda is a summary, approval of the summary. Is there a motion? Motion by Council Member Farmer, seconded by Council Member Myers. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. Hearing none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Next on our agenda, budget amendments. There are no budget amendments today, so we don't need any action there. Next on our agenda is new business. Second. Motion by Council Member Beard, second by Vice Mayor Gordon. Is there any discussion on new business? Mayor. All right. Mayor. Council Member Massadi. I'm sorry. My, I guess, prompter here is not working correct. I have a question on number B on the change order on the Clayton Road contract. Is that? Go. All right. Commissioner Paulson. Thank you. Is that just to finish up what we're doing now in that phase two, or is that for the future, the next phase? I've actually got Brad Frazier here, and he's going to discuss it, if you would. And this is a good chance. I don't know if everyone knows Brad yet. He is our new director of engineering, our county engineer, and he can answer any questions you guys have about the Clay's Mill. Thank you. Welcome, Brad. Thank you. I'm the Clay's Mill Road contract. Is that just to finish up the phase that we're currently dealing with now, or that's not for the new phase? No, it's not for the new phase. This is the final adjusting change order for 2A. So this will be the final thing for that. This is the balance of the quantities and everything. So nothing new is being added or done to that one portion? No, ma'am. Will you be able to give us a presentation or just an update on the next phase when you start that, you let that out for construction and so forth? Oh, absolutely. So we can get an update on exactly what's going on. Whatever you need. And plus at any time, because I know that we have a lot of projects going on in engineering, so at your convenience we'll be more than happy to even meet one-on-one or do a presentation, however you wish to do it. All right. Thank you very much. Yes, ma'am. Thank you, counsel. Thank you, Brad. Thank you, Council Member Massadi. Council Member Stanton. Thank you, Mayor. I had a question and some clarification on Item H. This is the public safety radio project that many of us who have been on Council know has been ongoing the last couple of years. And this is a change order on the new contract, which is for, I believe, the capital piece, not the bid on the provider, but this is the capital consulting piece, correct? This is the consultant services, yes, an additional amount for that. And these were the same consultants we used on the previous bid on the vendor? These are the consultants we've been using all along in the process, yes. I was just curious about it. It says the first change order, number one. I know we've had one before on the previous piece of this project from the same consultant when we rebid the vendor and selection of the tower and radio service. I see that and I don't know what the distinction is as to why this one's called number one. Todd, do you have any? Is it just because it's a new phase of the project? Because we've used them all along. I know we've paid them a lot more than $55,000. Yeah, I mean, they're related projects, but this is... Reinforcement. I suspect they entered into a new agreement when they started doing new work, but they'll verify that for you. They'll look into that. But I think that's what happened. Once you had an original agreement that's already been expired, and this is the continuing work under a newer agreement. So when we shifted focus from the overall system to include the radio, the handsets and everything, and switched to two purchases, one of the system and one of the radios, this may be the first change order that came under that new process. So under the new process, you listed about five things here that were not included in the original contract. I'm just wondering, why would we not include language for tower site leases, and why did we lose the local representative from the company? Did they bring a local person in here to obtain the bid and then they left? What's the issue there on some of these things? It seemed like that should have been included because this is a 54% change order. That's sizable. Technical consultant, yes. We've had technical issues arise that I think Chief Stack can explain in much better detail. Yes, sir. When we changed the design of this project, we went back to the original consultant. We brought them back on board because of their experience. They did an excellent job last time. Let me catch my breath. I'll take your time. Thank you. All you all talking next door ran over. Thank you. Well, again, and I'll give you a second, but those five bullet points there, I'm just trying to figure out why we would. If we've used them before, why wasn't that language included in the new agreement? Why is there a necessity for a change order when they've worked with us all along on this project? Well, let me explain to you what we've run into with this project. The vendor that we selected, not this consultant, has recommended a lot of technology changes that we simply don't have the experience with to know whether to accept them or reject them. We send all of those technology changes to our consultant. We ask them to review them, give us their feedback. We also send leases. These are leases that not even our Department of Law has a lot of experience with. Just today I had an email from one of the lawyers asking me, would you send this to the consultant? This is language I don't have experience with. Every time we do that, it's like sending it to another lawyer. They're going to bill us against that. We've been using their services quite extensively. We expect to continue to use their experience all through this project. Now, we've been eating away at those hours. We have right now about roughly $8,000 left on our balance sheet to pay this consultant. What we know we have on the horizon is some of the most critical parts of this project, and that includes having this basically what I call a post-construction inspection. We need them to come in at the end of this project for about 40 hours and tell us, did they do it right? Did we get our money's worth? Did they deliver what we asked them to do? We don't have that experience in government to do that kind of inspection. This is not a bricks-and-mortar project. This is high technology, way above any of the levels of people working in the urban county government. We need somebody to tell us, did we get our money's worth? Is this a high price? Most certainly is. But we have nowhere else to go for that. And so the change order covers them coming back at the end, the extra money? That's exactly right. We've been eating away at these hours every time something comes up that we don't know how to handle. We go right to them for their expertise. And the other thing that was something that we weren't expecting is our consultant used to live locally. When he left the company, we now have to fly this consultant in occasionally. That added some travel expenses as well. So when we do this final inspection, which we anticipate to be later in the spring, the consultant will literally fly in from Chicago, spend a week or so here doing these inspections. We will do surveys all over Fayette County to make sure this radio system works in all parts of Fayette County, up to a 95% coverage level. They'll bring the expertise on how to do those kind of studies. We don't have that kind of experience in-house. Okay, well, thank you for that explanation. Thank you for hustling over here. This is, as you know, an important project, and you've been on the front end trying to get it done, so thank you for your push to... I wouldn't ask you to spend this money if I didn't think it was money well spent. Yeah, let me ask you. I think it's worthwhile also to put in context, I will. I'm not done, Mayor, so I know you're trying to cut me off, but I'm not done. No, I'm not. I'm just trying to suggest that the chief also illustrate the scope of the project, the size of the project and the relationship of this value to the scope of the project. Well, to give you an illustration, this is an over $4 million project. We're looking at six sites. Five of those are transmission tower sites around Fayette County. One of them is located near our building here, and it's a receiver site on Park Plaza Tower. Each one of these has some construction similar to any other construction project. A lot of it is hardware and software driven. A lot of it is running new wires and fiber around Fayette County to connect all of these sites together. And we'll do it with a 99 point and put six nines behind that survivability factor in a worst case scenario. That's how strong this system will be. How do we know it will be that good? Well, we're going to ask this consultant to make sure it lives up to that, that they met the contract. This is a huge project. If at some point in the future you all would like a presentation on how this project has proceeded, what we're going to get for our money, I'd be happy to come over and give that to you. It won't be just me speaking. We'll bring the fire department, who are our partners in this project, and we are building something that when it's done, we hope it's not just a public safety infrastructure. It's an urban county government infrastructure for radio communications in the future so that it's not just about us, it's about everybody in this room. Do I get the floor back? Never took the floor, but go right ahead, Council Member. So following up on this piece, can you give me at some point and all the council how much we've paid to consultants for the entire project since you just described the entire project? And this does not include the fireplace. That's our next phase on down the road, correct? That will be the next phase down the road. It will not be nearly as intense as what we've done here. There are two phases here. There was a project that failed to launch. And if you want that included, I need to know because there was a separate price for that. and that was the project that was taken through the end of 2011 and did not happen. And we did use this consultant for that, and through no fault of their own, we started all over again with a scaled-down project. Would you like both? Yeah, if you don't mind, just what we paid the sole source provider, as it's listed in here. And then, Commissioner, while I have you up here, we did get an extension from the SCC on this project, and can you kind of update the council and tell us how long that extension was for on this project because we were under a time deadline to get it done? The FCC got back to us the week between Christmas and New Year's, I believe, or right after New Year's, and said we had gotten our extension through 2013 to have the system in place. They cited how much work had been done already, the contract that we had entered into, how much money we had already spent on the infrastructure as the basis for the good faith that we had shown in making progress towards completing the program and granting us that extension. Thank you for all your diligence and hard work in getting that obtained as well. And I think if we could, I think there's some agreement on Council if we could have a presentation as we get further down the road about the whole project and give, especially the new Council members, an update on what we've been working on. Thank you both for your hard work and everyone else who worked on it. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Stanton. Thank you for your insights and patience, too. Yes, sir. Vice Mayor Gordon. Thank you, Mayor. My question is back on Item B. Brad Frazier and Commissioner Polson and I realize this is a large project I think the original bid was the original contract was $3,569,321 what sort of threshold do you have for change orders for it looked like the total on this project, the Clays Mill Road project, was a little over 10%. What is the threshold that you have set? I think on this one it was about 10.2. Normally you look for about 10% to go ahead for things that could be anticipated or not foreseen or things that needed to be done once you actually get out in the field condition. So it kind of falls within that range. So once you start looking, but once you start going beyond that, then you start wondering if there was something that was not, you know, accounted for as far as what was in the scope or something along those lines. And what is the process when one of our bids is, do they submit the change orders and someone checks them out, or what's the process? Do you just automatically accept them? No, we have an inspector in the field. We also have a project manager which is assigned to the project. And in this case, we're dealing with federal dollars. It's not only at this level, but it also goes for approvals at the state level. The District 7 office has already reviewed this and approved it and forwarded on for the district highway engineer signature. the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet has given its approval to forward it on to go ahead and have the state chief engineer to sign off on this as well, since it's federal money. And then as an urban county government, do we follow our contractors and the bids and whether certain companies traditionally go over and have more change orders? Do we have any kind of system where we follow that history? At this point, and I hate to say since I'm a newbie, I'm not sure if that's done. However, I can tell you since I have been there, the project manager and the field inspectors do look at each project and go ahead and take in consideration and look for those quantities that are done to make sure that what is being billed or what's being submitted does go ahead and fit within what needs to be approved and to be forwarded on to the other entities, which in this case will be the state. So one of the things that when I came on board that we wanted to work with the staff, and they're real good at making sure that everything stays within the bounds of the scope. And so we do try to go ahead and take that to heart and take that into consideration when we do that work. Well, and I understand that when a project gets going, they can encounter things that weren't anticipated. I understand how that works. I just, now that this project has gone over by quite a bit than the next lowest bid, I wondered if there was something built into our system to track whether companies, you know, how they fall in their bids and their final amounts and their change orders, whether there's any kind of history. Is that something that would be possible? Quite frankly, that would fall to me, and that is something that I would look for in the future. In other words, do we have a history to where this one group that we contract with is, you know, Always goes over. Yes, always goes over, has high change orders, things like that, or is it something that just simply wasn't anticipated within the original scope and the work that's done? So that actually falls to me to do that. Okay. And so I do have, I do take that to heart because I know that we must be mindful of the dollars that we do spend, even though it is, in this case, federal dollars. It's still all our dollars. Yes, it is. Well, I was just curious about one item, the $85,105 for leveling and wedging. And I don't mean to get into the weeds, but is leveling something they didn't anticipate? This one, as far as I know, this was used as, this was the amount that was needed to where they went from actually taking parts of Clay's Mill Road and doing full reconstruction there and then also making use of the existing roadway where they could. And so this was within that transition area where they didn't anticipate how much tonnage you were going to have through there. That seems to be the reason why you had that. Plus, it was over a full mile stretch of road as well. Okay. Well, I appreciate your information. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Councilor Lawless. Thank you, Mayor. on item H. Thank you and congratulations on your new position. Thank you, ma'am. Commissioner Mason, I had a question about that also. So when you all talked about there was a local representative and he moved out and now left the company, left the company, yes. It seems to me that it would have been in our contract that we would have had a certain amount of support when we contracted with these people and that that's not the government's or the customer's problem, that they don't have anybody local. Has there been anything to – I mean, it's not double, but it's almost – You're exactly right. The company agreed with that. They took 138 billable hours and never billed them for us. That's taken a pretty good lick. So they've met us quite along the way on this, but there are certain projects that we asked them to undertake. They ate up these hours, too. So I met with their president, and they were willing to eat the 138 hours at $250 an hour. And so I think they met us quite along the way. At least that's my perception. But it comes a point to where when it comes to travel, they can't eat that. and there were some unfinished business we needed them to do for us, and those hours were yet to come. And so they were very forgiving of a lot of things for us. Well, I appreciate that, and I appreciate their eating their $250 an hour fee. Very generous. Thank you. Yes. House Member Farmer. Thank you, Mayor. Mine was just merely to make the statement on item C, where we're asking for an application for a grant with the Division of Waste Management. for waste, tire, crumb, rubber for the Kenwick playground, which is something that should be very successful for that neighborhood and for us as a municipality. To step back to some of the comments that others were making about overruns or differences, I think that we can see that in the conversation today as it relates to the streets and roads, the Clay's Mill project, as well as the radio project. So I think if we want to have a consistent policy, it would reflect across different types of things. And then, you know, stepping back to the radio thing, two years ago when we had such a dire budget situation, that came to us as a $30 million late item is what I recall. And that's why I think it sticks in some of our minds that, you know, I think the administration decided to break it up and do it in changed chunks that we can handle or swallow. But I think there's still an issue about, at least from my point of view, that this was a top-down approach from the federal government, mandating that we do something at a time where not only was the cupboard bare, but somebody was going to come and repossess it. I mean, we were out of money. We had no alternatives. So I think this is still part of the heightened fiduciary responsibility that I think each council member, and certainly you, Mayor, feel with all the resources at our disposal, and the fact that some of these things overlap and restart, have different numbering about them. It's something that just is us continuing to do the very specific job of using the resources of the taxpayers as wisely as possible. So I appreciate the conversation that we've had today. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Farmer, and agree. The insights and the challenge is always important and useful coming from the Council. And those who are involved in the administration appreciate that in the administration of their roles. Appreciate it. Council Member Scotchfield. Thank you, Mayor. Commissioner Mason, if I could ask. When we have these highlighted or these bullet points, I guess for me to know how the budget's increasing, the change that they want, for me it would be a better picture if I could see what each one of these items is budgeted at. Okay. I don't know if you have that now or if that's something. In the overall radio budget, we could break out things like that and show kind of what the projections are and where it falls in line. And I guess along the lines, I can't remember, I think, Council Member Lawless, I'm sorry, regarding the employee that left. I think it would just be a better idea for us to take a look at if we're increasing the amount on the item to see where these break down. Okay. Thank you, Council Member Scutchfield. No other Council members have signed up for comment on new business so we can take a vote on the motion. Is all in favor of the motion? Please indicate by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. All right, now we can move on to continuing business and presentations. First on our agenda is NDS. Is there a motion? Move approval. Motion by Vice Mayor Gordon. Second by Council Member Myers. Is there any discussion on the motion? Hearing none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Next on our agenda is Social Services and Community Development Summary for the January 22nd meeting by Councilmember Ford. Thank you, Mayor. The Committee for Social Services and Community Development met on January 22nd. Vice Mayor Gordon called the meeting to order at 1.35. All members were present. On a motion by Councilmember Myers and second by Councilmember Lane, I was nominated to serve as chair on a motion by Myers, second by Lane. I was elected the chair. I asked Council Member Akers to serve as the vice chair. The summary from December 4, 2012 was passed on a motion by Council Member Kaye, seconded by Council Member Myers. Our topic discussion was on workforce development and training. Paul Schoeniger, our staffer to the committee, provided some information as requested. We also had public comment from Mr. Darrell Smith, who serves as the chair of the Bluegrass Workforce Investment Board. The committee resolved to invite officials from the Investment Board back to our next meeting on March 19th. Committee items referred were discussed. Seventeen minutes later, we adjourn the meeting at 1.52. The next meeting will be on March 19th. Mayor, this concludes my report. Thank you, Council Member Ford. All right. Next on our agenda is a presentation by our police command staff on the police training facility. Chief Bastin. Thank you, Mayor. Today I'm really excited to bring forth a proposal for a great opportunity for a partnership, It's something that we've been discussing with folks at BCTC and other stakeholders for several months now, and I hope you find it very exciting, as exciting as I do, as we give you the framework of this partnership. I'm going to introduce the folks that are actually going to be speaking today. First will be Assistant Chief Mark Barnard, who's really played a lead role in this entire project. Mr. Ron Harris, who's an architect with the state and is the project manager for all the eastern state property at the state and for the building at BCTC, Dr. Augusta Julian, President of BCTC, and Derek Paulson, Commissioner of Planning. And I know Dr. Julian has some other folks here as well, her facilities person, finance person. A lot of the decision makers are with us today. So without further ado, I'm going to go ahead and ask Assistant Chief Barnard to come forward and start with a PowerPoint. Thank you, Chief. I wanted to start off and thank you all for your time this afternoon and start with the presentation, the PowerPoint. I hope you all received that. I'll briefly go through it and let some of the major stakeholders give you some information about it. You can go to the next slide. Envisioning how we came about this process, Dr. Paulson and I were asked by the Bluegrass Community College to come in and look at their new campus on the Newtown facility. and we did a secure by design consultation on that, how to make a campus safe through design features. Dr. Paulson and I met with them, and as I crossed the United States, campus security is one of the major things that all universities and colleges are facing right now, and we assisted them in that. In doing that, we looked at their facility, what it would look like next year and the following years through that, and discussing some of the safety issues. One thing that came out in the conversation was a building that they had, and they were trying to get some police presence around in that neighborhood. We have worked a lot with the Georgetown neighborhood and the Newtown Corridor talking about roll call facilities or some type of facility in that neighborhood for a long time. As you all know in your districts, most districts have a roll call facility, and we discussed with them giving up one facility moving to another district was going to be very difficult. So we tried to envision how do we do public safety in that community and we looked at a building that they had currently which was the McGowan building which is actually a cafeteria building along with a gymnasium attached to it. Our vision was working with them as partners is not moving in on the campus as an occupying force with a police roll call but actually tying the training element and the educational element into it. We discussed this, and then the challenge to us was to look at our facilities we currently have, see which ones we're utilizing over the next 15 years, and see if this would fit into our facilities plans. In doing that, Chief Bastin asked us to look at all the facilities we either had leased or that we owned and we're utilizing, and if we could save money in any of those areas. This slide demonstrates the current division of police facilities that we either own or are leasing in different parts of the areas of town. The next slide will demonstrate what the facilities, when we present you those packets, look like and what we came up with. In doing that, we have two areas, Safety City, which is on Cisco Road, that currently is not used, and also our Special Investigations, which is leased. So we looked at combining those areas and those programs with what we're having and bringing those into our facility plans. The one thing we did notice is that ROCOL, which is our West Sector ROCOL where the training division is, is way overused, and it's really hurting the facility, and that's the area that we needed to expand in and this project join together. Some of the things we looked at when we worked with BCTC, the internal benefits, larger updated classroom space. Currently in our facility today, for instance, we have an in-service class, an FTO academy, a sergeant's academy going on, and the actual recruit class, so every classroom we have is filled. Other training aids will all be housed together. Reduction of the number of facilities maintained, so we're cutting cost into that. And the biggest part that we really liked, which is sometimes police, and you get into an academy, you get into that bubble, you're segregated from everyone else. This actually puts our police recruits on campus with college students at the BCTC area and allows them to integrate with the community. Next slide, please. External benefits, integration in the Newtown Pike Corridor. Dr. Paulson and them will have a moment after this presentation to show you some of the things where that is really expanding. We're entrenched in the emerging university district talking to BCTC with Transylvania University and all the other entities that are going to that area. the revitalization of the downtown area of Pullma's back into there and actually having and being on there, which I believe is a dual benefit for BCTC and for the police department, a presence on the BCTC campus. This is what the building actually looks like, and Ron Harris will be up here in a moment to speak to some of the renovations. This is over a 20,000 square feet building. It's a shared building. It's not one entity to itself. So we looked at the uses, space features. One in the orange is actually what they have dedicated for the Division of Police to use for the training campus. The green is the shared space that we use with BCTC. We split the cost on those, and the blue is the offices that BCTC will currently house. That's also in your packet. This is the breakdown, and I'll let Ron go through some of this because the neat thing about this is the renovation costs that they have dedicated to go into this. He'll go over this for you in a second. The major thing to understand is there is no lease. There is no lease for us. This is the cost of the facility. The utilities, we're estimating $60,000. The reason we're estimating is they've gone in and gutted it, and they're putting all new utilities. BCT maintenance, they're taking care of everything, so that's not anything for the city. repair budget custodial which is a cost of $88,000. When we broke the shared usage of the facility down 0.21% of the facility is BT share of the expenditures. Ours is $79,000. They have the two offices and part of the gymnasium. We have the gymnasium and then the other parts in green. The nice thing that they have agreed to do because they put the investments in is there is a $200,000 cost to us specifically for the things that we need for the training academy. They have agreed to amortize that over 10 years for us. So they'll put that over 10 years for a $20,000 a year cost. Breaking it down in the last slide that I have, fiscal year 2012, our cost to operate Safety City was a total of $6,800. National Avenue was $46,000. Add those together, $53,000 for fiscal year 12. What we're saying is allow us to move those buildings back into spaces and do away with those buildings. The McGowan Building yearly operational cost is $69,520. Amortization $20,000 over 10 years. For the 10 years, it will be $89,520. If you subtract the buildings that we'd like to get out of the lease, safety city, That comes to operational cost, and that's paying for the building $36,241 in the year. After the 10-year amortization, so that cost is $16,241. I want to introduce Dr. Paulson, going through the phase of working with them and working with that neighborhood association, if that's okay. Thank you. Thank you, Chief Barnard. Really quickly, we're going to talk about what we're calling a strategic area plan or a very small area plan associated with this particular section of town. Several years ago, we did a central sector small area plan, and the reason we're kind of bringing this up right now is just because of the tremendous changes that have occurred in this area over the last few years. And what we'd like to do is partner with a few other groups to look again at some of the uses in this area. In the Central Sector Small Area Plan, we sort of envisioned it would probably be about 10 or 15 years before some of the changes that are occurring now would occur. With BCTC coming in quickly, with the changes along Jefferson Street, with the police potentially moving on to the BCTC campus, and with Transylvania moving closer towards Cooling Park and BCTC, we really felt this was a really good opportunity to try to come in and, again, look at some of these issues in the area in terms of land use. The goals of this project, and, again, we're kind of building this as a very micro area, small area plan, are to engage the public in that area, both business owners and residents, as well as institutional members in that area, about future development plans, about land use, potential developments, and, again, looking forward for potential in the future for landowners in terms of zoning changes as well. Really, this is kind of a first step or a major step in changing the character of that area along the lines of the way the residents and the business owners and institutional partners want to make the change. I think it's a very important time, again, with the various things that are going on here, to really take a chance on this opportunity to move it forward. We have a really quickly, just to kind of, I didn't want to put a lot of information in here, to give you a quick what we're looking at in terms of a timeline. This is really about a five-month deal. Again, we've got the central sector small area plan to build off of, and we're really looking to kind of work quickly on these public issues, a lot of it being public participation to kind of move forward in terms of how we would best use this land. for both the residents and the business owners and, again, the institutional partners. What we're going to do in the future, very soon, in the next week or so, is to blue sheet what we think of the costs, and it will be about an $8,000 contribution of which VCTC and Transylvania are also our partners in here, sharing an equal cost of $8,000 to work with consultants. And, again, this will be working with our planning staff along with consultants to really move this forward in terms of the public participation about this area. I will take questions after the rest of this little presentation here is done. I'm Ron Harris, an architect with the Finance Cabinet. I think it's been a pretty good job of explaining most of what I could say about the floor plan and relocation costs. I just want to emphasize just a couple of things. When we realized that we could partner with the Lexington Police Department, we said let's do every single thing we can to do it. So our goal was to have zero profit on this thing. That's why there is no lease involved. Also, we said let's absorb as much of the cost as we can. So we're going to invest a million dollars in renovating this building. We're asking that $200,000 be absorbed by you all. And also we're absorbing all the consulting architectural engineering fees, which is going to amount to about $150,000. We feel like this is an awesome opportunity for the finance cabinet, for the city. And so we feel like we've done every possible thing we can to make it happen. And the last thing is we also made a decision to try to keep the first 10 years yearly costs under $90,000. So some of the numbers that you saw up there are actually larger than they could be like janitorial services. But we felt like the first 10 years we want to absorb the majority of those costs too. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Harris. Dr. Julian. Welcome. Thank you, and thank you for the opportunity to speak in support of this just amazing and terrific project that has been presented to you today. I want to say from the point of view of the college that we just couldn't be more pleased to be at this point. I have to give credit to a number of people, not only from the Division of Police, but from the state, from our consulting staff, from our consultants and our staff. And I also wanted to mention that we have three of our advisory committee members here today. We've been working with the neighborhood associations and businesses in the area for quite some time, so we also have three of our council members here. and I also want to just thank particularly Councilmember Ford for his support. Former Councilmember Blues also has been very supportive and involved from the beginning of our project and now we're pleased that Councilmember Akers is involved as well. I want to just make two quick comments. As a citizen, I want a well-functioning police department with well-trained officers and as the head of a relatively large community college serving our region, we're responsible for about 18,000 students and about 500 employees. This is the best opportunity I have ever seen in my 35 years in this business to really partner with the council, with the city, with the police department, and to provide some support and safety, security, as well as education for not only our students and our faculty and staff who will be occupying this location, but the residents of the area. I don't have to talk anymore about some of the challenges today and being in a public, open institution and some of the realities that we face in our larger world. and again we think that providing the safety and security for people who will visit us on the campus as well as study on the campus is just incredibly important. The second aspect of this, which again I don't have to tell you, but we're also equally excited about is the opportunity for an educational partnership and the criminal justice program is relatively new for BCTC and we do have the chance to help create trained officers who will work with not only the council and the city and urban area of Lexington, but the larger region as well. We'll be placing officers in other communities. So the opportunity to partner not only with materials, facility, classes, is incredibly important to us. And so I want to certainly speak in favor of this. I hope that you will see the value and approve this project. And I will conclude my remarks. Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Julian. Chief? I know the clock's been stopped ticking there just a couple minutes ago, but if I could just kind of recap some of the takeaways. This provides us an opportunity for government to enter into a great partnership with a number of entities, potentially. BCTC, the YMCA sits right across Loudoun Avenue. There's opportunities that we can partner maybe to use some of their facilities, jointly use some of those. Neighborhood associations, that really excites us to have the ability to be in the area, in an area that's being revitalized that there's a lot of excitement about. And quite frankly, we don't want to get left out of it. We want to be part of that because it's really going to change the face of the area that we're talking about. And Transylvania, as you're aware, there's a lot of plans there for growth at Transylvania. So it's a happening area, and it's a great opportunity for us in terms of location. The educational opportunities for all employees due to the partnership of BCTC is just, I think it affords some endless possibilities, and we've already discussed some of those, and I think Dr. Julian and I both are very excited about the preliminary discussions about that. It's going to give us larger state-of-the-art classrooms on a college campus, which really kind of changes the philosophy and state of mind for the academy environment. And after looking at our division needs, and some of that space study is in your packet that we did for you, We believe this facility will certainly meet our needs for the next 15 years. We've been in the other facilities since 1991, and quite frankly, we've just outgrown it. So that's a big plus for us. Dr. Julian has said that if we do need overflow, we can use additional classroom space in the brand-new building that they're using, should we find a need for that. In this plan, we propose to reduce the total number of police facilities, the National Avenue narcotics facility and safety city, thereby reducing the cost and offsetting the majority of the cost for this project. Public safety will become an anchor in the revitalization of the university district, and that's something that we're excited about. and being part of the community that, as I said before, that's really growing and changing a lot is exciting to us. We haven't had a presence in the area since on Charlotte Court in the late 1990s, so we feel like that would be a great opportunity for us to have a presence and make a difference. So I want to thank you for letting me go over just a minute or two here. I know your time is precious, and I appreciate it, But I certainly want to thank Dr. Julian, Ron Harris, all the staff that have worked on it, Assistant Chief Barner, Lieutenant Chris Nellie is being off of quiet today, but this has been his life for several months. I dedicated him to this project. So he's done a phenomenal job. Thank you all. Thank you, Chief. Some council members have signed on for comments, and we're beginning with Council Member Lane. Well, I would just like to congratulate all the parties that worked on this project. Probably in the time I've been on council, this is one of the most innovative things I've seen, and I just want to say a job well done, and I'm very enthusiastic about it. And I really only have one question, and that's for Dr. Paulson, if he has just a second. My question is, are we going to have the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet involved in this, too? Will they be looking at the intersection of 4th and Newtown, maybe changing the configuration of that? Is that part of your problem? There already are some plans for their changes, and we can give a presentation, if you would like, about what the changes are that the state is doing to Newtown along the BCTC corridor. But they are going to evolve. The way this works the best is if we get as many participants in the area as we can. And it will be, again, those institutional partners, not just Transy and BCTC, but also the state who has a very big investment in Newtown Pike, and, again, business owners and residents. So if you would like, I can talk to you, be the person who will come by, do a presentation about what the changes are that the state is making on Newtown Pike. That's great. Well, you know, from a redevelopment area, this is going to be a great catalyst. There's already a lot of activity on Jefferson and Forth, and Transylvania is expanding some too. So with everything going on, it's going to be a real hot area of town. All the investors should run up there and look for property. It truly is a great area. Again, having been on the central sector small area plan a few years ago, we were really impressed with the small area plan, and I think we were kind of all in agreement. This will be great when it comes to fruition someday, and I don't think we ever saw the speed at which it was really going to come. Again, a lot of it with the movement along Jefferson, with Transylvania moving down as well. And I don't think people really realized how close transit in BCTC are. It's just really a few blocks away. And it really is a great opportunity to really strike while the iron is hot. Thank you very much. That's all I've got. Council Member Henson. Thank you, Mayor. Chief, I have some questions about, well, Safety City first. It has not been operating, correct? That's correct. So will it, will you reactivate it at the new location? We don't have any plans to reactivate Safety City at this point. We've been in some discussions with some other potential partners that might be interested in coming in and looking at that operation. But we don't have any plans at this point to go back in there. Okay. And also, the officers have to have continued education. Is that right? We do. Every officer is required after their initial basic training certification to have a 40-hour continuing education in-service training each year. And that would occur here at the new location? Absolutely. What about the other, like Fayette County Public Schools officers, TransyHealth officers, U.K. officers? Would they be able to use the facility? Well, we certainly work with all of our partners, and we try to share facilities whenever possible and use economies of scale so that we can all afford to do things. And certainly, if there's a class going on that we have, we typically invite our other partners to come in when we have space. Good. Well, I think it's an excellent partnership, and I appreciate the work that's been done on it. I'm really excited for that area. I think it'll be a huge change. You know, it has changed over the past few years, but it's going to change even more drastically. So good changes. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Clark. I did. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Council Member Massati, then Vice Mayor Gordon. Thank you. I don't know who would address this, but I have a question about the memorandum of agreement. Yes, ma'am. On page two, it basically is the lease term of a year, and I know there's not really a lease, that you would be in that facility up to 2021. But you're amortizing your operational costs over 10 years, and I just wonder why could we not have that run concurrently? Yes, ma'am. That's a good question, actually. It is a – Ron, I may need help with this. There is an issue with writing memorandums of understanding with the state as far as leases go that they have varied guidelines of what they can use. They have offered to amateurize that over 10 years, which was very gracious, or we could have matched it at eight years, which is all the state will allow, if I'm correct, Ron, before they have to renew it. We feel confident that we'll be there longer than 10 years. So because of the structure of the state's policies where they say they can only do the lease for eight years, that's why it is that. And that's why we had that caveat at the very bottom, just for legal issues, as if somebody opt out of the agreement to move out. We feel confident that we're going to be there. The effort we put into doing the facilities research and the fact that the state is putting $1 million of renovation towards moving us in there. I understand, and I'm just trying to protect us. I would like to see that in writing. As the term goes, there's no such thing as a verbal agreement. So I was just hoping that we could have had that, like I said, run concurrently. But it doesn't look like we can. Well, I guess there's always the ability to go back. We were on a time frame, and I apologize when we started discussing this and moving forward and doing it. They actually are interested in having the facility done and us moving in by November 1st. And so looking at that timeline and going through it, and we sent the agreement up back and forth to each state and through our law department. Okay. I can request it if you like. I just want to, like I said, I was hoping we could have some kind of assurance since we're amortizing it over that time period that we would be able to have that lease extended to that time period. That's all. Okay. Thank you. Vice Mayor Gordon. Thank you, Mayor. I just had a question or two about the headquarters, 150 East Main. And on page 20 of the, I guess it's page 20, the part that ends with recommendations for the 150 East Main, it looks like there are two or three entities that will move out. communications, community services, and I wondered if do you see a time or have you looked into the future enough to see that the 150 East Main Building may eventually all move to different places, or do you have a plan for it? We don't have a plan on the drawing board for relocating that facility. At this point, what we are doing is looking at all the facilities and trying to make logical moves in sequence that they should occur based on someone moving from one place to another. It's a domino effect. We will realize some space at 150 East Main Street. But as the years go by, there may be a need to move and create some space for our Detective Bureau of Investigation. and they're pretty well confined into a small area and some other units that we have. So we see that the space will continue to be utilized in an efficient manner. Okay. And then the bullet point about locating central records on the first floor, I was thinking that before David Boggs left, he had said that you all were pretty much totally electronic. Are you pretty close to being all electronic? We've moved way down the pike. The problem is that with some of our case jackets, with case materials and things like that, we still have to take a hard copy with us to court. And hopefully the dream is someday that the prosecutor will be able to log in, pull up our case, our judge, if they want to look at it, and do it all electronically. But as of right now, we're not there. We have cut down significantly on the numbers of hard copies that we used in the division. But you still keep all those copies for cases? We keep a much more limited number of them now than we used to. Okay. Well, I applaud you, Chief, and all your folks, and Dr. Julian, and all your folks who've worked on this. It seems like a really terrific partnership, so thank you very much. Council Member Clark. Thank you, Mayor. I can think of about 15 questions I'd like to ask. I'm not going to ask any of them. But I want to say this, that when the announcement was made between Eastern State and BCTC, I was pretty amazed at that. That was a remarkable kind of thing. But I'm even more amazed at this, I think, because this is a great move. I see it not only benefiting both entities, but also benefiting the neighborhood. I don't want to prolong that statement, but I just want to say how proud I am of all of you that have taken a part in this. It just shows a lot of visionary thinking, a lot of cooperation, and I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Clark. Council Member Stennett. Thank you, Mayor. Let me keep up the echoing. And, you know, I can always count on your Division Chief to come back with innovative solutions. You know, you stay within your budget. You don't outgrow your means, and you've done a great job in the last several years. And this is just another example of those efforts. So thank you and your command staff and everyone who put in the hours, because I know you don't do it alone. I know there's a lot of good people out there to help you. And thank you, Dr. Julian. We appreciate your partnership tremendously, and this is a great opportunity for everyone, including the neighborhoods around there, Transy, et cetera. And I'm just curious, Dr. Julian, I have a curious question about the relationship between yourself, BCTC, and Transy. But are kids given the opportunity, can they transfer credits very easily back and forth between schools? Is there a partnership there? I know we've talked about this education triangle. I know there's been some headway. I think it's good for us to know that publicly. Yes. There has not historically been a close working relationship. Of course, our history is that we had a very close working relationship with the University of Kentucky and have had for many, many years. and with other regional universities. We had not had with Transy, but the opportunity to come into the neighborhood has opened that dialogue, and Dr. Williams, President Williams and I, have had many conversations about the possibilities for the future, and we are already in discussion with their academic staff about creating transition agreements so that we will have some students who will have the opportunity to go to Transy. They're talking about scholarships, and so they are very open and excited, as we are, about being neighbors and the opportunities that it will give students to experience both institutions. Well, thank you for updating us. I think it's important that the council and the community know that, you know, even though you didn't have relationships in the past, now this has created other opportunities, and I appreciate your leadership because I think it's a lot of credit to you and what you're trying to do in that area. Long-term, will BCTC always operate the Lee's Town Road campus as well as the Eastern State campus now forever? Is that the long-term plan as it stands today? Our long-term plan, we initially began to talk about the Eastern State site as possibly consolidating all of our classes in Lexington. I doubt if that will ever happen. Our plan at this point is that we will retain the Leastown site. It has all of the technical programs, the big high bay labs and welding equipment and all of that. So that kind of facility is very expensive, and we have a good facility there in Leastown. So we will probably stay there. We do hope eventually to move most of our operation off of the Cooper campus, which, of course, is the U.K. facilities. Very good. Thank you so much. Again, Chief, thank you for your efforts on this. Maybe we can even have a council meeting there one day once you get moved in, or maybe even a mayor's night out there. Oh, there we go. There we go. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Council Member Ford. Thank you, Mayor. And I want to applaud Chief Bassett and his colleagues and leadership at the police department. I want to thank Dr. Julian, and I want to thank the officials from the state finance cabinet and all who have come together for this specific proposal about the training facility on the campus. I think it's an ideal partnership between our police department and the community college coming online. I think, and I look forward to supporting it as it goes forward, when I think about what's occurring development-wise, it's been hinted at around this horseshoe. This is nothing less than a transformational opportunity for this section of town. And I stand very proud to represent the location proper where the campus is and also in conjunction and proximity to Councilmember Acres District. The first and second districts definitely welcome these partnerships. I want to also applaud Dr. Julian. She has been, and the community college has been, very engaging and deliberate in including community input with your roundtables quarterly to keep us apprised of what's going. And we're almost there. It's almost time that pretty soon we'll have folks at the classroom building there on Newtown Pike. So I'm pretty excited about that. In closing, I want to harp and circle back to something that Council Member Lane mentioned in regards to the roadway improvements. And Commissioner Paulson and I have talked, and I'll be supportive of his micro plan coming forward to look at the land use around this new university district, as it may be called in the future. I'm not certain, but particularly about 4th Street, Council Member Lane talked about the intersection of Georgetown Street, Newtown, and 4th Street. And I do appreciate District 7 Transportation Cabinet putting in a lot of resources there and considering the reconfiguration of that intersection. And my understanding is that is in the works. Council Member Farmer is the chair of our planning committee. I think the administration has already pledged to facilitate the improvements there. And it can only be completed if we take 4th Street to 2-way between the block of Jefferson and Newtown. And if Commissioner Poulsen would briefly talk about the intersection improvements in that proposal going forward, I think it's going to be very, very timely as we celebrate what's happening with the Police Training Academy. Commissioner, if you can, just briefly. Don't want to steal your thunder. Sure. We have had some questions about that. If we can move 4th Street between Newtown and Jefferson to two-way. And in those discussions, we have been very much in favor of doing just that. We're trying to, if we can do that, identify budgetary sources that we can contribute to that. But I believe the state is willing to do it, do all the parts that they can to get it going. And I think that would be a great advantage for that area to really get the traffic flow going along 4th Street. I know the residents have been very much in support of it as well when we've discussed it. And I think it really would be a big bonus for that area to get that two-way all the way down 4th Street from BCTC to Transy. Thank you, Commissioner. Mayor, I really, council members, ask for your support in due time to do that again. District 7 has really stepped up to provide the funding. Finance cabinet, everybody's coming together, and we definitely look forward to playing our role as a council. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you all. Thank you, Councilman Ford. Councilman Rakers. Thank you, Mayor. There's not much more I can say except I, too, am so excited about this project. I love the public-private partnership, the innovation. I want to commend the Chief and Dr. Julian as well. She has been absolutely hospitable and engaging, as he said, as Council Member Ford stated. I think it's just going to drastically improve the Newtown Pike Corridor and the entire neighborhood and bringing the training facility from Old Frankfurt, where it's just in a dead zone, and having that traffic and that presence in a residential area, I'm just really looking forward to that engagement with the community. And BCTC's also involvement in the community and willingness to come to neighborhood association meetings and present and get involved. And I actually have a bus shelter project to talk with you about. But I also want to commend Commissioner Paulson for the expertise in creating the campus with its safe by design, therefore eliminating the need for security on campus full-time paid for by BCTC. So I think it's just a magnificent partnership. The 0% amortization also, thank you for that, interest-free. That's always a good thing. and I'm excited as well to be involved in the strategic area plan to look at how we change the land use in those surrounding neighborhoods. So thank you to everybody involved, and I also look forward to supporting this in the future. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Akers. Council Member Farmer. Thank you, Mayor. Council Member Ford, when you talked about in planning taking 4th Street from one-way to two-way, the mayor started humming, Oh, Happy Day. All right. Everybody's done a great job. Everybody's been thanked. What I just, from all of this, where is this? There's no picture of where this is on the street. There's a picture of the floor plan. But I know where the new building's being built, but I don't know where this building is. I mean, is there a rendering or a give me a feel? You said it was across the street from Loudon, across Loudon from the Y. And I'm just trying to. They're going to. I think they're going to. Page 23, I'm told, is a picture of the outside of the building. The best way to get to it is to enter off 4th Street just prior to Newtown. And it's a couple buildings to the right. You bear right as you go into the campus. Oh, is this? I don't know. I recognize the barn. Where are we? So what number is it? Maybe Officer Snelly. There we go. He's got the graphic up there. It's building number 69, which is on the lower left-hand side of the screen right there. So for orientation purposes, Newtown is on the upper side of that slide, and Out of Town is going to my right, Ural's left, and then Loudon is, of course, going on the right-hand side of the screen, and 4th Street's down there. So Building 69 is the McGowan Building. It is the newest building on Eastern State's campus. It was constructed in 1990, I think, is when it was actually completed. And it's one of the buildings that we've identified that has real potential value as far as architecturally and just in the condition that it is. So that's it. So if you were going to drive in there to look at that building, would you come in off of 4th Street? Well, right now, since we've closed Newtown, the access from Newtown for the new construction, you either come off of Fort Street, which is probably the most direct route to get to it, or you could come off the temporary, off of Loudoun, where we've created that temporary access for the hospital. Eventually, part of the whole District 7 plan is to upgrade Newtown and actually create more of an entrance off of Loudoun into the campus. so that would probably become the primary entry point at that time. I'd like to think I'm like a lot of people that, you know, I've been watching the building being built that's along Newtown Pike, but I haven't really explored in behind that. So this is a whole different assessment of how big this project is. It's quite amazing. The buildings that are there on campus and obviously the long history of that particular site as a mental institution, a mental hospital. I think it started in 1824, or early 1820s. So it's got a lot of history on site, and there's obviously a lot of buildings that are there. Unfortunately, some of those are in disrepair, but we're identifying the ones that we can keep and repurpose. So if a member of the public wanted to drive in there, could they? It's open, but I think they pretty much discourage people from getting on the campus. Well, it's worked for me. So, you know, I think the hospital would not look favorably if everybody's still in operation. Yes, the hospital's still in operation. Okay. Thank you. Right. Well, we'll just go with Google for now. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Yes, sir. Council Member Beard. Thank you, Mayor. Whosoever might be the answerer, parking. for the whole site. There was an awful lot of trees and an awful lot of buildings, but I don't see much parking. So flip a coin or whoever wants to do it. Looks like Dr. Jillian. I'll just make a quick comment. Racing to the podium. Do you mean parking for the students for BCTC, parking for the police? Students primarily. There's a parking area in the middle of the facility right now that we will be resurfacing and using. There's also a plan for an additional parking. Okay, it's B. on this site plan. And so there is parking designed for the number of students that will be in the building in this first phase, and that's about 1,000 students. So the parking that is designed in, once we have the campus with the demolition done and the renovations done, we will have parking for all of the students and faculty and staff who will be on site. And there also is an area that's designed for the police officers' parking as well. It's kind of that little gray area at the bottom. There you go. While I have you at the podium, once upon a time, they discovered 6,000 bodies buried that they didn't know. And I heard that it's anticipated that there are others there. Yes, sir. Is that correct? I don't know if there are others there, but we believe it is certainly possible. And there are state protocols in a case where that would happen. We will not be disturbing ground other than what we absolutely have to to do the demolition that's required. And in any case, whatever is discovered will be treated respectfully as the state protocols required. I would anticipate that would be the case. I just wondered if that was going to be additional costs or roadblock on time. It would be additional costs and it would be additional time if such remains were discovered, and we just basically don't know. The consultants and architects and archaeologists do know relatively where it is believed that there might be additional remains, And, again, we do not intend to disturb any more of the property than we absolutely have to. Thank you, Dr. Julian. I like your name, by the way. Thank you. I know. We also, let me just say, would be happy to work with the hospital to provide tours of either the McGowan Building, the proposed police and shared facility, or any of the other property. The hospital has been excellent to work with us. So if any of you would appreciate the opportunity to see it, we'll be happy to work with you and do that, facilitate that. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member. Mr. Moore. Would you like a quick explanation of the overall plan here? Are you still interested in that plan? If my colleagues would like the idea also, it would be great. I don't want to be the only one that wants to see it. All right. Well, on your left here is Newtown Pike. On the bottom left is 4th Street. The new... Oh, yeah. Okay. Ron, hold on just a second. What you're looking at here is the brand-new building. Okay. Number 16 up there is a laundry building, current laundry building that has had a lot of historic significance. we're in the process of restoring that building right now and have a bid package out for the outside of that. This whole campus will eventually, when totally built out, hold around 20,000 students. This phase is 1,000 students for the first building. And you'll see clusters of other buildings all centered around that big open courtyard and that laundry building, which will be like a student center building. And so there will be parking on your right-hand side there, which is right across the street from the YMCA. Just coincidentally, that number 6, show them that number 6, Randy. That is the current cemetery. The first thing we did when we took over construction of certain areas of the campus was we put quite a bit of money into improving that gravesite. And there are about 4,500 bodies there. We have an archaeologist working with us. We found approximately another 170, which will be reinterred there in the month of May. There is the potential for other bodies always, but we're working very closely with our archaeologist. If we do find some bodies, it's very possible to rope that area off and continue construction. So there's the potential for slowing us down, but it probably won't. So I don't know if you want to get into specific areas there, but that's kind of the overview. I'll point out one of the buildings. Show them the administration building there, Randy. That's the current building there. It's a red brick building with some big white columns out front. You may be familiar with that building. It's called the administration building. We're keeping that building. And anyway, we're in the process of renovating that also. Any other questions? Mr. Farmer? Okay. Thank you. So the building that's being built right now along Newtown is number three then? Yes, sir. So then coming to the other side of the property, does this anticipate a railroad crossing there at number two? When this plan was developed five years ago, we wanted to conceptually show every way possible to interface with the neighborhood and the surrounding areas. And so our master planner said, this is a potential. Of course, it has a lot of ramifications with it, but that was one of the proposals. It doesn't mean that we have to do it, but it was a proposal. And so this rendering would be a full build-out in, you said, 20 years? Who knows? Who knows? Sir, I wish I could tell you. But it could be 20 years, could be 15, 25, just depending on how the economy goes. Okay, then the building that we're talking about today, the McGowan building? Is it up there? The McGowan building, no, it's not up there. It's up there all the way up to this final phase, but it's located, Randy, show them where that is. It's located in that area right there. When we get to that point, which who knows how many years away that will be, we'll be talking relocation for the police academy there on campus, and one of those other facilities that are shown there, one of those other buildings could represent the academy. So we have to have faith you're not going to throw us out before our amortized unit is done. We want you there very badly, and we have no desire to make you leave. Well, this has been a very enlightening presentation. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you, Ron. Thank you, sir. All right. No other council members have signed up, so we want to thank you all very much for your presentation. Everyone who participated, thank you, Chief, for pulling it all together. Thank you, Dr. Julian, for your contributions and also your support. All right, next on our agenda is Council Reports, and the floor is available for Council Reports. Council Member Farmer. Thank you, Mayor. Just two quick things. First, earlier I was watching the, I was not here for the general government committee meeting about the changes in the council rules. I just wanted to make a suggestion to those who are working on that, that as you work that back through the committee, maybe you could give us a mock-up of what a docket might look like with those changes. I know the chair of the committee is not here today, but I think since we're talking about making some rather large changes in how the council would handle legislation, I'd like to see a mock-up of how that would look physically, maybe in one of the upcoming packets, and I would just leave that to the committee or the committee chair to kind of work on. Then, let's see. Madam CAO, I had a question for you. Ian, and I'm evidently spending a lot of time in two years ago when we were working on a very tough budget. One of the things we were working on at the time, because at that time one of the proposals that came forward from the administration was to, in essence, outsource the ladies and gentlemen that are what I would call our security force. And I know we're going through some changes there, and I just, if you all were going to make a policy change about those folks and how we utilize them, I would just like for us to be a part of that before anything happens, if you would just keep us in mind as that moves forward. I know some people are leaving, and we may not add them back directly, but I just think that's why I make sure that we're secure in this building with people that we know. That's exactly what I want to say to you. Certainly. And I will check again with Commissioner Reed to find out exactly where we are in that process of outsourcing anything. But I can tell you one thing. I've arrived after that particular budget, but I have heard numerous people talk about the security, and we have no intention of laying off that security staff. Very well put. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Farmer. Council Member Ford. Thank you, Mayor. I would like to share an announcement that most council members may be aware of, but so our constituents will know as well. The application period for the 2013 Summer Youth Employment Program has opened. It will run from February 2nd through a deadline of February 28th at 4 p.m. The ages will be ages 14 through 17. I'm excited that we will be projecting to hire 225 up from 150 the last few years. The point of contact is Maddie Morton or Stephanie Love in the Department of Social Services. Their phone number is 246-4300. So we hope that and we're continuing to look for business partners to sponsor these site locations. So the Summer Youth Program is getting started in anticipation for the summer. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council. Thank you, Council Member Ford. Any other council members? Council reports? All right then. Council Member Lawless. I'm sorry. Thank you. I just want to remind people the Ellsford Neighborhood Association is meeting this evening at 7 p.m. on the corner of Woodland and Kentucky Avenue, and that is at Woodland Christian Church. And the topic this evening will be the new Kroger building plans, et cetera, for the Kroger on Euclid. And I know a lot of people in and around the district are very interested in that because it is going to be a proposed zone change involved. I will not be able to be at the meeting, but I encourage folks to go. and if you're interested. So that's 7 p.m. at Woodland Christian Church on the corner across from Woodland Park, on the corner of, oh, I said Woodland and Park, I'm sorry, on the corner of Maxwell and Park, Woodland Christian Church, across from Woodland Park. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Lawless. There's no further Council Member reports, then we can move on to the Mayor's report. There is no mayor's report this week, which allows us to move on to public comment for issues not on the agenda. Mr. Mundy, nobody signed up? All right, sir. Well, then, if there is no further business, I'll ask for a motion to adjourn. Motion by Councilman Lane, second by Councilman Lawless. Is there any discussion on the motion? If we're hearing none, all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion to adjourn.