# Council Work Session - September 17, 2013 > Auto-transcribed civic record · September 17, 2013 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/3117 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/3117?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2013-09-17 - **Last revised**: July 15, 2026 - **Length**: 3,617 words > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** Audio from the official Granicus video was auto-transcribed with OpenAI's open-source Whisper large-v3-turbo model, run locally by The Lexington Times. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude. Verbatim wording may contain errors. See [methodology](https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/about/methodology) or [report a correction](mailto:editor@lexingtonky.news). --- ## Meeting Overview The Urban County Council met on September 17, 2013, at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chamber on the 2nd Floor of the Government Center in Lexington, Kentucky, with Mayor Jim Gray presiding. The council addressed ten agenda items during the session, including public comment periods, rezoning requests, budget amendments, and various business matters. The body took 29 motions and votes throughout the meeting and heard 3 public comments from citizens. Key actions included approval of a summary, new business items, continuing business and presentations, and adjournment of the meeting. ## Attendance **Present:** Chuck Ellinger, Steve Kay, Chris Ford, Shevawn Akers, Diane Lawless, Julian Beard, Bill Farmer, Kevin Stinnett, Jennifer Scutchfield, Jennifer Mossotti, Peggy Henson, Harry Clarke, and Ed Lane. **Absent:** Linda Gorton and George Myers. **Late:** None. ## Votes and Decisions The Council approved numerous motions and resolutions during this meeting, with most passing unanimously. **Procedural Approvals** [timestamp: 00:01:02 - 00:04:11] The Council unanimously approved the docket for the September 12, 2013 Council Meeting (motion by Julian Beard, second by Jennifer Scutchfield), the summary of the August 27, 2013 Council work session (motion by Bill Farmer, second by Shevawn Akers), budget amendments (motion by Jennifer Mossotti, second by Bill Farmer), new business (motion by Bill Farmer, second by Steve Kay), and the NDF list (motion by Peggy Henson, second by Jennifer Scutchfield). **Committee and Administrative Actions** [timestamp: 00:03:40 - 00:04:11] The Council unanimously approved motions from the August 27, 2013 Social Services and Community Development Committee meeting (motion by Chris Ford, second by Harry Clarke), removed the Senior Citizen's Center item from that committee (motion by Chris Ford, second by Bill Farmer), and extended presentation time by 10 minutes (motion by Steve Kay, second by Peggy Henson). The Council also unanimously placed a correspondence policy issue in the next Committee of the Whole meeting (motion by Bill Farmer, second by Julian Beard) and a grant reporting procedure issue in the General Government Committee (motion by Jennifer Scutchfield, second by Bill Farmer). The Mayor's report was approved unanimously (motion by Kevin Stinnett, second by Julian Beard). **Legislation and Resolutions** [timestamp: 00:04:11] The Council unanimously passed six items: L0990-13 (environmental position amendment), L0926-13 (EMS Paramedic Training Coordinator agreement), L0960-13 (Hazen and Sawyer renewal agreement), L0972-13 (UK Opera Theatre performance agreement), L0974-13 (easement release), L0989-13 (Humana employee benefits accounts), and L0996-13 (DEA Task Force agreement). The Council also unanimously approved a resolution authorizing the Department of Law to institute condemnation proceedings for the Blue Sky Pump Station and Force Main Project (motion by Shevawn Akers, second by Harry Clarke). **Roll Call Votes** Two motions required roll call votes. The motion to create a Budget Analyst Senior position for the Council Office passed 10-3, with Linda Gorton, Chuck Ellinger, Jennifer Scutchfield, Jennifer Mossotti, George Myers, Julian Beard, Ed Lane, Peggy Henson, Kevin Stinnett, and Chris Ford voting in favor, and Shevawn Akers, Harry Clarke, and Bill Farmer voting against [timestamp: 00:04:11]. The motion to hire a security officer position as Council receptionist passed 9-4, with Ed Lane, Bill Farmer, Harry Clarke, and Shevawn Akers voting against [timestamp: 00:04:42]. **Additional Motions** The Council unanimously approved distributing the annual Council calendar by the third week in October, adding a public hearing in full meeting months at 4:00pm, reconsidering a failed motion on standing committee start times, and switching standing committee start times annually except for Budget & Finance and Economic Development. ## Budget and Financial Actions The meeting included approval of the following financial actions and contracts: **Service Contracts** * **EMS Paramedic Training Coordinator services** (L0926-13): $23,700 contract with Dr. Patricia Howard * **CMOM Implementation Services** (L0960-13): $345,000 contract with Hazen and Sawyer, P.C.S. for Consent Decree renewal * **UK Opera Theatre Performance** (L0972-13): $600 contract with UK Opera Theatre for a performance at Family Care Center **Property and Administrative Actions** * **Subsurface Drainage Easement Release** (L0974-13): Release of subsurface drainage easement for property at 1141 Shagbark Lane * **Humana Voluntary Employee Benefits** (L0989-13): Approval of new account applications with Humana for voluntary employee benefits * **DEA Task Force Continuation** (L0996-13): Continuation of Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Task Force participation ## Public Comment Three speakers addressed the council during the public comment period. **Mayor's Challenge Design Competition for Downtown Parking Lot** [timestamp: 00:10:03] Danny Meyer presented a proposal to transform a city-owned parking lot near downtown LexTran Station into a public commons. The proposal includes a food truck pavilion, pedestrian access improvements, murals, and green screening. Meyer emphasized the importance of safety, public transit access, and community engagement in the project design. **Support for Security Officer on Council Floor** [timestamp: 00:17:43] George Myers spoke in strong support of hiring a security officer to protect staff and employees. He cited recent national events and stressed the importance of building safety as a rationale for the position. **Town Branch Creek Cleanup** [timestamp: 00:22:38] Shevawn Akers reported on a successful volunteer cleanup of the Town Branch Creek, which was sponsored by the Fade Alliance and Bourbon Review. According to Akers, the cleanup effort improved visibility and access along the creek and included a post-event cookout for participants. ## Appointments Dr. Patricia Howard was appointed to the position of EMS Paramedic Training Coordinator. ## Contested Items The September 17, 2013 meeting included two items that generated debate and divided votes among council members. **Calendar Distribution Timing** Council members debated the timing for distributing the annual calendar. The point of contention was whether the calendar should be distributed by the third week in October, with some members questioning whether this deadline was too early. Despite the disagreement, the motion to distribute by the third week in October passed with a majority vote. **Standing Committee Start Times** A motion to switch standing committee start times annually resulted in a deadlocked vote of 7-7, causing the initial motion to fail. However, the item was reconsidered, and following a second vote, the motion to switch standing committee start times annually ultimately passed. ## Public Comment - Issues on Agenda [timestamp: 00:00] No members of the public signed up to speak on issues on the agenda. The meeting proceeded directly to the next agenda item. ## Requested Rezonings / Docket Approval [timestamp: 00:01:02] No docket approval was required during this meeting, as there was no council meeting scheduled for that week. ## Approval of Summary The Council approved the summary of the August 27, 2013 Council work session without dissent [timestamp: 00:01:34]. Bill Farmer and Shevawn Akers participated in this agenda item. The summary was presented for approval and was adopted by the Council with no opposing votes or objections raised. ## Budget Amendments No budget amendments were presented for discussion during this agenda item [timestamp: 00:02:04]. ## New Business [timestamp: 00:02:04] The new business agenda was presented for approval. Chris Ford and Steve Kay were the key speakers during this discussion. A motion was made to remove the UK Opera Theatre performance item from the new business list. This motion passed, and the revised new business agenda was subsequently approved. ## Continuing Business / Presentations [timestamp: 00:03:40] During this agenda item, the meeting addressed two main matters: approval of the Neighborhood Development Funds (NDF) and a review of the August 29, 2013 Committee of the Whole summary. **Neighborhood Development Funds Approval** The Neighborhood Development Funds were presented and subsequently approved. Details regarding the specific allocations or purposes of these funds were not specified in the available meeting materials. **Committee of the Whole Summary Review** The meeting included a review of the August 29, 2013 Committee of the Whole summary. This review encompassed recommendations on two key topics: - Job positions - Calendar changes **Key Speakers** The following individuals participated in this agenda item: - Chuck Ellinger - George Myers - Shevawn Akers **Outcome** The Neighborhood Development Funds were approved by the meeting body. ## Council Reports Council members delivered reports during this agenda item, which began approximately 9 minutes and 31 seconds into the meeting. **Speakers and Presentations** The following council members participated in the reports: Chris Ford, Danny Meyer, George Myers, and Shevawn Akers. **Key Content** Danny Meyer presented on the Mayor's Challenge design competition and community engagement initiative. This presentation focused on efforts to engage the community through a design-based competition framework aligned with mayoral priorities. **Outcome** This agenda item was informational in nature, with council members sharing updates and information with the body rather than taking formal action or making decisions. ## Mayor's Report No mayor's report was presented during this agenda item [timestamp: 00:18:48]. ## Public Comment - Issues Not on Agenda [timestamp: 00:23:43] No members of the public signed up to speak during the public comment period for issues not on the agenda. Diane Lawless noted this absence of speakers, and the meeting proceeded directly to adjournment. ## Adjournment The meeting was adjourned following a motion by Jennifer Scutchfield, seconded by Shevawn Akers. [timestamp: 00:23:43] There was no discussion on the adjournment motion, and it was approved. --- ## Decisions - **Motion** — passed: Approval of the docket for the September 12, 2013 Council Meeting - **Motion** — passed: Approval of the summary of the August 27, 2013 Council work session - **Motion** — passed: Approval of budget amendments - **Motion** — passed: Approval of new business - **Motion** — passed: Approval of NDF list - **Motion** — passed: Approval of motions from the August 27, 2013 Social Services and Community Development Committee meeting - **Motion** — passed: Removal of Senior Citizen's Center item from Social Services and Community Development Committee - **Motion** — passed: Extension of presentation time by 10 minutes - **Motion** — passed: Placement of correspondence policy issue in next Committee of the Whole meeting - **Motion** — passed: Placement of grant reporting procedure issue in General Government Committee - **Motion** — passed: Approval of the Mayor's report - **Motion** — passed: Motion to go into closed session pursuant to KRS 61.810(1)(c) for pending and proposed litigation - **Motion** — passed: Motion to return from closed session - **Motion** — passed: Resolution authorizing Department of Law to institute condemnation proceedings for Blue Sky Pump Station and Force Main Project - **Motion** — passed: Motion to adjourn - **L0990-13** — passed: Authorization to amend Section 21-5 of the Code of Ordinances, abolishing one Environmental Inspector (Grade 113N) and creating one Environmental Initiatives Specialist (Grade 115E) - **L0926-13** — passed: Authorization to execute Professional Service Agreement with Dr. Patricia Howard as EMS Paramedic Training Coordinator - **L0960-13** — passed: Authorization to execute second renewal of agreement with Hazen and Sawyer, P.S.C. for CMOM Implementation Services - Consent Decree - **L0972-13** — passed: Authorization to execute agreement with UK Opera Theatre for a performance at the Family Care Center - **L0974-13** — passed: Authorization to execute Release of Easement for subsurface drainage easement on property at 1141 Shagbark Lane - **L0989-13** — passed: Authorization to execute new account applications with Humana for voluntary employee benefits - **L0996-13** — passed: Authorization to execute State and Local Task Force Agreement with DEA for continuation of DEA Task Force (Sept 30, 2013 – Sept 29, 2014) - **Motion** — passed (10-3): Motion to move forward with recommendation 1: Create Budget Analyst Senior position for Council Office - **Motion** — passed (9-4): Motion to move forward with recommendation 2: Hire a security officer position to serve as Council receptionist - **Motion** — passed: Motion to distribute annual Council calendar by third week in October - **Motion** — passed: Motion to add a public hearing in full meeting months at 4:00pm - **Motion** — passed: Motion to reconsider the failed motion to switch standing committee start times annually - **Motion** — passed: Motion to switch standing committee start times annually, except for Budget & Finance and Economic Development - **Motion** — passed: Motion to adjourn --- ## Full transcript Music All right. Welcome, everybody. I will call the meeting to order. This is a meeting of the work session of the council. and first on our agenda is a public comment for issues on the agenda. Mr. Mundy, is anybody? Mr. Mundy, I don't have anyone signed up for issues on the agenda, so that allows us to move on to requested rezonings or docket approval. There's no council meeting this week, so there's no docket approval required. That allows us to move on to the approval of the summary. Is there a motion? Move for approval. Second. All right. Motion by Council Member Stennett. A quick second by Council Member Ellinger. Is there any discussion on the motion? Okay. Hearing none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Next on our agenda is budget amendments. There are no budget amendments today, so that allows us to move on to new business. Is there a new business? Second. Motion to approve. That was a... See, I'm going to give that one to Council Member Beard. Council Member Ellinger. That was a rush to the finish line there. Motion to approve by Council Member Beard, seconded by Council Member Ellinger. Is there any discussion on the motion? Council Member Ford. Thank you, Mayor. on business item letter C in regards to the U.K. Opera Theater and the Family Care Center. I move to remove this from the new business items. I've talked with Commissioner Beth Mills. Craig Benz is here to provide clarification. But I move to remove. All right. Councilman Ford, can you say that one more time, please? I'm sorry, Mayor. Business item number C, authorization to execute agreement with the U.K. Opera Theater for a performance at the Family Care Center. I make a motion to remove that from new business items. Second. There's a motion to remove item C. There's a second. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. Hearing none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Any further discussion? on the motion. All right. Then if there is none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. All right. Moving right along. We have in continuing business and presentations, the first NDFs. There's a motion by Council Member Ellinger, second by Council Member Massadi. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. Hearing none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Next on the agenda is a summary of the Committee of the Whole meeting on August 29th by Councilmember Ellinger. Thank you, Mayor. The Committee of the Whole met on August 27th. We had four items in the agenda. The first item was the blue sheet process. Meredith Nelson, our Council Clerk, provided an overview of the administrative blue sheet process and types of legislative items for Councilmembers in attendance. The next item was the job description work group recommendations. I provided an overview of the work group discussions. We recommended to the council that we create a budget analyst senior position for the council office. I made a motion, and I'll move this forward with recommendation one and move the position budget analyst senior to the full council, so moved. Second. It's a motion by Council Member Ellinger, seconded by Council Member Henson. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. Hearing none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. The work group discussed several options for the front desk position, ultimately decided to fund a security officer position to serve as a council representative. I made a motion, and I'll move this forward for recommendation two and to hire a security officer position with which security will hire and manage. So moved. Second. Motion by Council Member Ellinger. Second by Council Member Henson. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. Hearing none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no? No, no. All right, let's do an electronic vote then. All in favor, please indicate by voting electronically. All right. All right. The vote reflects the passage of the motion. Thank you, Mayor. The third item was the Council calendar. Councilman Myers commented on the requested calendar changes. a motion by Councilman Reyers that the annual council calendar be distributed to all council members by the third week in October, so moved. Motion by Councilman Ellinger, is there a second? Second by Councilman Massadi. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right, Councilman Beard. I guess I didn't bring this up when we were actually discussing this at the Cal, but why Why so early? Why not November? I'd like Council Member Myers, who brought this, to give the rationale behind this if you'd like to. Thank you, Mr. Chair. We actually discussed that in the meeting, and the council administrator had looked at the last couple years when she put the council calendar together, and when the last date was that she got information, and we settled on that date, she said that would work for her. So the purpose is just to get it out. It seems like every year there's different iterations of the council calendar once we get the draft. And it stretches out to the end. It just gives us an opportunity to get it done and get it out of the way. What if some of the various and sundry organizations that we grace at dinners and things of that sort haven't made their decisions yet as to timing and such? That's what I was saying when we went through that discussion in the meeting. she made it clear that that's not the case, that this date will work. Okay, that's fine. Thank you. All right, is there any further discussion on the motion? All right. Hearing none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. There was discussion about adding a quarterly public hearing to the Council of Vice Mayor Gordon to state that the legal opinion was that if Council wanted to do this, they should add one per month or one every other month due to the timing issues with notices from the Planning Commission. A motion by Council Member Akers to add a public hearing in full meeting months at 4 p.m. So moved. Motion by Council Member Ellinger and second by Council Member Myers. Is there any discussion on the motion? Okay. Hearing none, we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. There was discussion about the switching standing committee start times annually. Council decided to leave the Budget and Finance Committee and the Economic Development Committee at 1. There was a motion to switch this, and it actually failed 7-7. Then there was a motion to reconsider, and then that passed. And then they did not have here in the summary, but there should have been also a motion that did pass to switch standing committee start times annually except for budget and finance and the economic development, and I will move that forward. So moved. Second. Motion by Council Member Ellinger, seconded by Council Member Myers. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. Hearing none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. And the fourth item, there is agreement to ask Connie Underwood to prepare a preliminary fiscal year 2013 to fund balance estimate for council as soon as possible. And there's a motion by Council Member Stendham to adjourn. And this passed without dissent. Thank you, Mayor. All right. Thank you, Council Member Ellinger. All right. That allows us to move on to council reports. Please sign up for council reports. Council Member. All right, Council Member Ford. Thank you, Mayor. Council Members, I sent an e-mail. Hopefully you guys got it last night. I'm going to yield my council report time and bring forth a constituent of mine, Mr. Danny Meyer, who will utilize these moments to introduce you to Community Engagement Initiative, if the council will so welcome him. All right. Mr. Danny Meyer. Did I just push the button for the push button so I can go forward? Right, Danny. Thanks, Chris, for allowing me the time to speak in front of council today. and to apologize in advance for taking 30 to 45 seconds too long. Council Mayor, I am Danny Mayer, a 10-year resident of the Northside, residing for the past six years in the 1st District. I am also a faculty member at Bluegrass Community Technical College, an urban walker, a paddler, a Lex Tran user, and publisher of free monthly print community newspaper, North of Center. In March of this year, acting as editor of that paper, I issued a Mayor's Challenge design competition. Okay, I'll just count back to you. For a portion of roughly half-acre city-owned surface parking lot that sits across from the downtown Lex Tran Station and behind the main street facing City Hall, downtown library, Kentucky Theater, and licensed registration buildings. The competition asked specifically for local class design plans for transforming the space and staying within a budget of $70,000. The idea for the challenge grew from the city's new interest in reclaiming underused urban space and for its appeal to create a commons to be utilized by the public. The challenge literally chooses its design site as the cartographic overlay of the clean and carved scape revising town branch development blocks. This Mayor's Challenge did stimulate a significant change from the ORF design. The MLK Viaduct had to stay and be incorporated. Our perspective was local. One, tearing down and rebuilding a bridge is terribly expensive. Two, the MLK Viaduct is an important north side connector to UK where MLK dead ends. Closing it will force north-south bikers and cars onto heavier traffic and narrower rows and limestone streets. The mayor's challenge design stakes out four design spaces with $9,000 in supplemental money to entice city workers with LexTran passes and or to stimulate city leader residents to take LexTran. The most important, cheapest, and possibly easiest thing to do is to free LexTran. Currently, those getting on or off the bus at our downtown station, People like me, who lovingly lug a two-year-old a half mile to be there, have our exits to Maine woefully aborted. To cross heavily trafficked and fast-moving vine, I must either cross at Limestone or in a street I forget its name before Rose. The man crossing the street in the picture made you what the city's bike and ped committee had in mind this past summer when they observed the viaduct needed city attention. Phase 1 of the mayor plan calls for cutting a 5-foot opening in the concrete barricades, painting a crosswalk, and allowing pedestrians to cross Vine there, under the shelter provided by the viaduct. I've asked a couple of engineers who claim it to be a simple $5,000 job. I've doubled that number just in case. If the city were really interested, though I haven't budgeted it, a pedestrian stoplight to slow traffic at the point of Vine would help ensure our public transit users' safety, but also slow traffic. And where will these LexTran users travel with their newfound freedom? A food truck pavilion located away from residential, out of view from brick-and-mortar restaurants, nearby large buildings filled with workers, and across from a station that sees 35,000 people bored and alight weekly. When I contacted him, Sean Tibbetts of the Food Truck Association said he'd definitely be interested. The $8,000 would go to provide basic seating and event money for public gatherings held on-site in warmer weather, most likely music, but other things too. Leaving the food truck pavilion, the design calls for the muraling of the small path that runs alongside the viaduct. The money would go to 8 to 10 artists to redo this walkway in the food truck pavilion. Some will collaborate on a regionally focused mural detailing the area's history in four to five separate individual artist panels. You can see those. They're sort of the dark shapes on the right-hand side. They're big, long concrete blocks. Non-thematic panels, as viewed in the picture on your left, might also appear lower on the path walls. I already have agreements to work from the following artists. To ensure that NOC interests don't crowd out other artists' possibilities, the idea is to open this up to other artists if the City Hall takes it seriously. This would mean $2,500 to $5,000 per artist for supplies and payment, depending on how many more artists come on board. All right, and this part will be quick. I apologize. Those involved currently, ArtistWise, who have said that they would be interested and are supportive of the project include Blake Eames and Claudia Michler, who have been featured actually also in North of Santa and a number of other places, for their watershed designs. Next, Denise Brown, who I came across through a wonderful Lexington Herald Leader article, who would be, I think, a much-needed voice in the city for Native and African American artistic perspectives. I would love her to have her do a mural of early Lexington history. Ken Minter and Christopher Epling are both ones, I guess, no longer up and coming, but has been a mainstay. Ken Minter and his Lexington Graphic Landscapes, and also Christopher Epling. His work has appeared in not just Northwest Center, but also places like the Kentucky Colonel. And just yesterday I found out that, or Joel Pett informed me that he would be interested in designing a frame, and by the advice of Kermena Todorov and Kurt Goethe, they've suggested trying to pair him up with an anonymous graffiti artist. and last things, I'm sorry, to connect the plan back into the common grid, the last phase calls for a heavy green screening of Vine Street in place of the two-wide sidewalk there and the reclamation of the northwest side of the surface lot to be turned into a permaculture path. The idea is to extend the pedestrian activity away from Vine Street and inward to Water Street where it might extend naturally to Phoenix Park. Rebecca Glasscock, along with watershed advocate Ken Cook and watershed crew owner Chris Sullivan will be joining me for a more extended hour-long session at Al's Bar tonight at 7. You are all invited. At the talk, Rebecca can tell you about her work getting certified in permaculture or her work with DCTC's Piecemeal Gardens, a several-acre patch of land she oversees at my college's Lee's Town Campus. Thanks for letting me talk. How far over did I go? Thanks, Danny. Thanks very much. And Chris? Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Counselor. I just appreciate Danny engaging our council office to bring this forward. As you guys can relate, there's a lot of energy across our city, and when they have the opportunity to let us know their activity, it's always good. Thank you, Mayor. Shout out to North of Center. Always creative and often provocative as well. Appreciate it. And a great legacy and history of gazettes in our country. All right, anybody else? Council Member Myers. Thank you, Mayor. I just want to say I was downstairs in your office with a conversation down there. I was a little bit late getting into this meeting, but I just wanted to say to our staff that I'm sorry that I missed the vote on bringing a security guard to our floor. I think it's very important that we do that. And I think in light of what we see happen yesterday at the Naval Yard, it just brings it home that when those kinds of things happen, it's not going to be the 15 of us sitting around here that's on the floor most likely. It's going to be our staff that's up there and the rest of the employees in this building. So all we can do to improve the security in this building, I'm all for. And that's why our employees know that I support them. Thank you. Thank you, Councilman Myers. Any other council members? Councilman Beard. I believe there is a meeting tomorrow at Kentucky Theater concerning Rupp Arena and some of the area he was discussing on town branch. What is it? That's what I was going to ask you. What is the time? I believe it's 4.30 or 5. I'm not sure, but we'll find out. 4.30 to 5? 4.30 or 5. Or 5. Yeah. Beginning. Yeah. I'm not sure. It's 4.30. Starting at 4.30. Okay. Yes, sir. Very good. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks, Councilman Beard. All right. There's no mayor's report today. Oh, all right. Council Member Lawless, I didn't see you on there. Okay. Thank you. I'd like to ask a question about your proposal, if you don't mind. I think I'd like to know more about it, but it seems real exciting. I'm curious about the 45 parking spots. Where would those be? Those would come from, if you were to look at the way I'm imagining it would be the northwest part of that parking area. So the actual entire site, as I understood it from the city's maps, that viaduct bisects that parking lot. And so the parts that would be taken away would be a strip on one side of that parking lot that would be, if you were on MLK, looking towards Limestone Street. Does that make sense? it probably makes a lot of sense but i'm direction here if you look on the mayor's challenge the big picture if you were to imagine that brooke you would look at the strip on the right hand side on the upper right picture you see that the it's a shot underneath the the viaduct and there is a strip of parking areas on the left and parking spots on the right-hand side okay and so why would there be a loss of parking that strip on the on the right-hand side leaving the mlk viaduct going towards say phoenix park if you would follow that strip this this picture here isn't a good example of if you go to the second picture all the way back in the beginning yeah so that picture in the upper right if you were to sort of take the um right hand side sort of there's a small little cut through street that goes towards phoenix park well the directing traffic the idea being to direct traffic that way so that what we're going to be taking away are the parking spots from directly underneath the viaduct on the back right hand side of that parking lot as that whole strip would go down towards that Phoenix Park let out, if you will. So those spots, including underneath the parking viaduct, I think I counted 45. I've also kind of been checking out on the city usually around 9, 9.15, 9.30 when I'm back in that area for the bus routes. And there's routinely about 7 to 10 spots that are open there, plus the new parking deck. I've never seen it with less than 80 in the couple of times that I've seen it in the new lights where they shine and tell you how many spots are there. Usually it's been around 90 to 105. So I feel like there's places they could go, and I also feel like maybe if the city could get behind public transit and try to encourage city workers by subsidizing it in some sense and having that be part of the plan to increase ridership. And to make it more appealing, I think that Colt Trolley's been really successful, and people have realized that public transportation is a good thing. Okay, thank you. All right, thanks again, Danny. All right, Council Member Akers. Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who came out this weekend. On Sunday, I participated in the Town Branch Creek cleanup that was sponsored by the Fade Alliance and the Bourbon Review. We had probably 20, 25 volunteers. We cleaned out a ton of honeysuckle grapevines along the banks of the creek on both sides. before we started on Sunday, you could barely see the creek from behind the pepper distillery. When we finished, you could see the creek, you could cross the bridge, and you could walk on the other side of it. So there were chainsaws and clippers, a few injuries. But all in all, it was a great day. We had lots of, again, volunteers, people who care about our creeks and our trails and the distillery district itself. And then Alltech, I want to thank them also. So they sponsored a cookout for all of the volunteers afterwards. So thank you to everybody involved. Thanks, Mayor. Thank you, Councilman Rekers. All right. I already mentioned that there is no mayor's report. Is anyone here to speak to issues not on the agenda? Mr. Mundy, nobody signed up. All right, then. That allows us to move to a motion. to adjourn. Council Member Scutchfield, motion by Council Member Scutchfield to adjourn, second by Council Member Akers. Unless there's any discussion, we will stand adjourned.