# Council Work Session - November 12, 2013 > Auto-transcribed civic record · November 12, 2013 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/3168 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/3168?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2013-11-12 - **Last revised**: July 15, 2026 - **Length**: 4,366 words > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** Audio from the official Granicus video was auto-transcribed with OpenAI's open-source Whisper large-v3-turbo model, run locally by The Lexington Times. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude. Verbatim wording may contain errors. See [methodology](https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/about/methodology) or [report a correction](mailto:editor@lexingtonky.news). --- ## Meeting Overview The Urban County Council met on November 12, 2013, at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chamber on the 2nd Floor of the Government Center, with Vice Mayor Gorton presiding. The council addressed nine agenda items during the meeting, including public comment periods for issues both on and off the agenda, rezoning requests, budget amendments, and various reports. The body took seven votes and heard nine public comments from residents. Among the items approved were the summary of the previous meeting, new business, continuing business and presentations, and council reports, while other items including requested rezonings, budget amendments, and the Mayor's Report were handled on an informational basis. ## Attendance **Present:** Gorton, Ellinger, Kay, Ford, Akers, Beard, Farmer, Stinnett, Scutchfield, Myers, Mossotti, Clarke, Henson, and Lane **Absent:** Lawless **Late:** None ## Votes and Decisions The meeting included seven votes, all of which passed. **Approval of the summary of the work session** [timestamp: 0:01:00] Motion by Gorton, seconded by Mossotti. Passed by voice vote. **Ordinance 148-2012: Amendment to change oversight agency for 21c TIF from Lexington Downtown Development Authority to LFUCG's Department of Finance** [timestamp: 0:05:53] Motion by Stinnett, seconded by Henson. Passed by voice vote. **Ordinance 266-2008: Amendment to withdraw the Lexington Distillery District Incremental Tax Special Fund due to non-activation within four years** [timestamp: 0:09:20] Motion by Ford, seconded by Farmer. Passed by voice vote. **Approval of new business items (L1179-13 through L1206-13)** [timestamp: 0:18:47] Motion by Stinnett, seconded by Farmer. Passed by unanimous vote. **Approval of neighborhood development funds** [timestamp: 0:19:17] Motion by Ellinger, seconded by Myers. Passed by voice vote. **Ordinance 16-14(c): Amendment to section 16-14(c) of the Code of Ordinances** [timestamp: 0:00:00] Motion by Ford, seconded by Farmer. Passed by roll call vote with 13 ayes and 1 nay. Those voting in favor were Gorton, Ellinger, Kay, Ford, Akers, Beard, Farmer, Stinnett, Scutchfield, Myers, Mossotti, Clarke, and Henson. Lane voted against. **Placement of oversight of rehabilitation homes into the Public Safety Committee** [timestamp: 0:24:23] Motion by Lawless, seconded by Ellinger. Passed by voice vote. ## Budget and Financial Actions The meeting included authorization for several financial actions and agreements: **Grant Funding** * Authorization to accept a $25,608 award of federal and state funds from the Kentucky Emergency Management Agency under the Hazard Mitigation Grant Program for the Versailles Road Shelter (L1179-13) * Authorization to submit an application to the Kentucky Emergency Management Agency for $47,154 in Hazard Mitigation Grant Program funds for a Weather Radio project (L1183-13) **Agreements and Contracts** * Authorization to execute an agreement with the Internal Revenue Service for Volunteer Income Tax Assistance (VITA) through the CKEEP program in partnership with United Way of the Bluegrass (L1184-13) * Authorization to execute a lease agreement with James R. Kemper for property at 951 Enterprise Drive to relocate Sewer Line and Pump Station Maintenance sections in the Division of Water Quality for $86,592.96 (L1187-13) * Authorization to execute agreements with utility providers—Kentucky Utilities, Windstream Communications, Kentucky American Water Company, Columbia Gas of Kentucky, and Time Warner Cable—for relocation related to Section II of the Todds/Liberty Road Improvement Project for $1,418,162.32 (L1195-13) * Authorization to execute a Release of Easement for property at 1000 Export Street (L1196-13) **Ordinance and Fund Amendments** * Authorization to amend Ordinance 148-2012 to change the oversight agency for the 21c Tax Increment Financing (TIF) district and execute a Letter of Agreement with the state (L1205-13) * Authorization to withdraw the Lexington Distillery District Incremental Tax Special Fund (L1206-13) ## Public Comment Council members raised several topics during the public comment period: **Hazard Mitigation and Emergency Preparedness** Council Member Farmer emphasized the need for a tornado safe room at the Versailles Road Shelter, citing the vulnerability of the current sheet metal structure. The project requires a local match of $3,827 for the $29,435 Hazard Mitigation Grant. [timestamp: 0:02:02] Council Member Massadi questioned the effectiveness of weather radios for mobile home park residents, noting that sirens are outdoor-only and may not alert people indoors. [timestamp: 0:03:34] **Tax Increment Financing (TIF) Matters** Council Member Akers sought clarification on the transfer of 21c TIF oversight from the Lexington Downtown Development Authority to the Department of Finance, requesting explanation of the rationale and process. [timestamp: 0:05:53] Council Member Ellinger requested information on the future of the withdrawn Lexington Distillery District TIF, including next steps and developer engagement. [timestamp: 0:09:20] Council Member Akers raised concerns about TIF activation and compliance, questioning how a TIF could be approved without a development plan and remain inactive for four years, expressing worry about the city's reputation and adherence to state requirements. [timestamp: 0:12:44] **Veterans Recognition** Council Member Massadi praised the 400 veteran employees at LFUCG and shared a personal story about her daughter, a female weightlifter, to highlight nontraditional roles among women. [timestamp: 0:20:19] Council Member Lawless honored military families and expressed appreciation for their sacrifices, particularly those who relocate frequently due to military assignments. [timestamp: 0:23:51] **Transportation and Community Updates** Council Member Ford announced that West 4th Street between Jefferson and Newtown Pike is now open to two-way traffic and commended Commissioner Paulson and the Transportation Cabinet for their work. [timestamp: 0:22:39] Council Member Rakers announced several upcoming neighborhood meetings and thanked the Vice Mayor for speaking at a Veterans Day event in place of the mayor. [timestamp: 0:26:05] ## Contested Items **Withdrawal of Lexington Distillery District TIF** The council faced a split vote on the withdrawal of the Lexington Distillery District Tax Increment Financing (TIF) district. The TIF had not been activated within the required four-year timeframe, triggering the withdrawal process. The core dispute centered on the city's oversight mechanisms and the developer's failure to meet activation requirements, which included completing $20 million in capital expenditures. Council members were divided on whether the withdrawal should proceed, reflecting disagreement about how to handle the failed development initiative and what consequences should follow. **TIF Activation and Development Planning** A heated discussion emerged regarding the approval and management of the TIF without an accompanying development plan. Council members questioned the fundamental process that had allowed the TIF to be approved and then remain inactive for years without triggering earlier intervention. This contentious debate raised broader concerns about municipal accountability and the city's ability to ensure developers meet their obligations. Additionally, council members expressed worry about the implications for the city's future eligibility for state funding, suggesting that the mismanagement of this TIF could jeopardize access to financing for other projects. The discussion highlighted systemic issues in how TIFs were being vetted, approved, and monitored throughout their lifecycle. ## Public Comment – Issues on Agenda [timestamp: 00:00] No public comments were made during this portion of the meeting. The public comment period for issues on the agenda proceeded without any members of the public offering remarks or input on the scheduled agenda items. ## Requested Rezonings / Docket Approval No requested rezonings or docket approvals were presented during this agenda item. ## Approval of Summary The summary of the work session was presented for approval. [timestamp: 00:01:00] **Motion and Vote** Gorton moved to approve the summary, and Mossotti seconded the motion. The summary was approved without dissent. **Outcome** The approval passed unanimously. ## Budget Amendments No budget amendments were presented during this agenda item. The work session summary indicated that no amendments were brought forward for consideration at this meeting. ## New Business [timestamp: 00:02:02] A series of new business items were presented during this agenda section, including authorizations for federal grants, contracts, lease agreements, and Tax Increment Financing (TIF) amendments. Key speakers during this segment included Farmer, Massadi, Akers, Ellinger, Ford, and Lawless. All new business items presented were approved unanimously following discussion among the board members. ## Continuing Business / Presentations [timestamp: 09:20] The Neighborhood Development Funds were presented and approved during this agenda item. The funds were allocated across multiple community priorities, including traffic safety, cultural events, school projects, and park improvements. Key speakers in this discussion included Ellinger, Akers, Ford, and Paulson. Following the approval of the Neighborhood Development Funds, the group engaged in discussion regarding the future of the withdrawn Distillery District TIF (Tax Increment Financing). The specific concerns raised and details of this discussion were not detailed in the available information. The outcome of this agenda item was approval of the Neighborhood Development Funds allocation. ## Council Reports During this agenda item, council members presented several reports covering employee recognition, community outreach, infrastructure matters, and upcoming public engagement [timestamp: 0:20:19]. **Key Presentations and Announcements** The reports included recognition of veteran employees for their service. Council members also discussed public outreach efforts related to the Design Excellence Task Force and provided infrastructure updates to the body. Announcements were made regarding upcoming neighborhood meetings to engage residents on various matters. **Committee Action** A motion was brought forward to place rehabilitation home oversight into the Public Safety Committee. This motion passed. **Speakers** Reports were delivered by council members Massadi, Kay, Ford, Lawless, and Rakers. **Outcome** The Council Reports agenda item was approved. ## Mayor's Report No mayor's report was presented at this meeting. This agenda item was listed but did not proceed as scheduled. ## Public Comment – Issues Not on Agenda No public comments were made on issues not on the agenda during this meeting. The meeting proceeded directly to adjournment following this agenda item. --- ## Decisions - **Motion** — passed: Approval of the summary of the work session - **Motion** — passed: Approval of neighborhood development funds - **Motion** — passed: Approval of new business items (L1179-13 through L1206-13) - **Ordinance 148-2012** — passed: Amendment to change oversight agency for 21c TIF from Lexington Downtown Development Authority to LFUCG’s Department of Finance - **Ordinance 266-2008** — passed: Amendment to withdraw the Lexington Distillery District Incremental Tax Special Fund due to non-activation within four years - **Ordinance 16-14(c)** — passed (13-1): Amendment to section 16-14(c) of the Code of Ordinances - **Motion** — passed: Placement of oversight of rehabilitation homes into the Public Safety Committee --- ## Full transcript Music Thank you. Thank you. So we will go ahead and get started and convene our meeting. Is there any public comment on issues on the agenda? I see none. No requested rezonings, no docket approval. Do I hear a motion to approve the summary? So moved. Second. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. All those opposed, that motion passes. There are no budget amendments. Do I hear a motion on new business? Are there any questions or discussion? Please log in. Council Member Farmer. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I just want to direct everyone's attention to item A, which requests council authorization to accept award of federal and state funds from the Kentucky Emergency Management Agency under the Hazard Mitigation Grant Program for their sales road shelter. This goes to an issue that I have championed in the past and will continue to do so in the future. Tornado safe room at Versailles Road Complex. These buildings are constructed of sheet metal on a concrete slab. Occupants cannot be protected in the event of a severe storm or tornado. Upon approval of federal funds, a prefabricated storm shelter will be purchased for installation in the property. The next paragraph is most important. Total project cost is $29,435. By the time you take the federal out and the state agency out, ours is a local match of 13% for a total of $3,827, which is why I believe that at some point we need to try to locate some tornado safe rooms in the greater Masters and Station area because I believe there's very little opportunity for people to cover themselves in place and or go to a place that is substantial enough to sustain them during a direct hit. That just for information, something I'm very supportive of. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Massadi. Thank you, Mayor. Vice Mayor. I have a question on B. Item number B, I don't know if, I guess maybe Commissioner Mason may be able to answer this. I'm sorry, which item is that? B. B. B. That's a boy. He's a brother. That would be Commissioner Mason. Welcome. Yes, ma'am. Thank you, sir. Just a quick question. You're talking about giving these folks in mobile homes radios, which is a great idea, but I'm just wondering, would this replace the, is this in lieu of sirens? I mean, I'm thinking about these mobile home residents that will get these radios, whether or not they'll have them on or not. My thought was, would it be more effective to have the sirens in place of the radios? That would depend on it. I'm not sure that the location has been specifically set out yet. It would buy each resident their own weather radio that would go off inside the home. I will check and find out where they are planning on using that and see how close some sirens are to those mobile home parks. My concern was who is going to monitor these residents to make sure they have the radio on. So I was just thinking if there was a siren in the closed vicinity, that may work better in lieu of this. That's just a thought. Sure. Okay, I'll check on that. Thank you. Well, Commissioner, Pat Duggar would say that the sirens are meant for outdoor notification only. Well, the verbiage on them is much more audible outdoors. Yes. But the noise could be heard inside of residences to at least alert people to turn on the radios. But I'll try and find out. Thank you. Councilmember Akers. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I have a question on G. It says Kevin Atkins, but I don't see him, so whoever would like to take that one. Commissioner O'Mara. Can you just tell me a little bit about the whys and hows of that transfer? I can tell you about the why. I might be a little unfamiliar with the how. I guess the how is just the letter. But all of the TIFs are in agreement with the state and the commissioner of finance or finance in LFUCG. The only exception was the TIF for 21C, which was originally with DDA. So to be consistent with all of them, we asked the state if they would mind a transfer. I don't know if that's the correct term. But anyway, we're changing the name from Downtown Development to LFUCG Division or Department of Finance. So it will be just like all the rest of the TIFs that we have with them. And so as part of your oversight of TIFs, what does that involve? Well, the oversight from my area is post-activation, and then it's a measurement. So we put in baseline information. There's an agreement. It's different depending on what they decide to do on whether it's a three-year average or the year preceding the application. Again, I'm a little fuzzy if I'm quoting this incorrectly, but we come up with baseline information. That's then accepted. It sits there as reference until the TIF is activated. At that point, we start measuring the local taxes that have been pledged so that we can measure the incremental tax revenues. So that's when we kick in is after it's activated and the project is up and going and those revenues come in. The state is doing a likewise thing. Theirs is the big dollars because their sales tax and property tax is much higher than our percent of occupational taxes. So you track the financial component specifically. So who is tracking what the developer agreed to do in the TIF agreement, what the city has agreed to do, and those kinds of larger components, I guess, that are not just fiscal. That's out of economic development. Okay. And I believe Kevin is out of the city today, so he's not here. Okay, that's all. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Lawless. I'm sorry. I punched in about the signs. Some of them can be heard indoors, but clearly the purpose is that they are outdoor only, to warn people outdoors. So you already said that. I think Commissioner Mason said, well, some of them can be heard indoors, but that's not. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Ellinger. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I would like to find some information on number H. Mr. Adger. Okay. Commissioner Paulson. Could you tell me where we go from here now, what's happening, what happens in the future now? A couple questions, I think, there. Where do we go from here and what happens in the future? I can tell you about where we're going from here. So our plans in terms of this, and we are meeting with some of the developers from the distillery district on Friday to discuss those next steps. and I think from our standpoint the feasibility study helps lay out what those next steps are which the first thing is to really get a good plan in terms of the infrastructure things that were laid out in terms of the feasibility study that are kind of left up in the air we know what is lacking it's lacking water, it's lacking sewer we have questions about all the utilities we have questions about the roads so I think what we've talked with the developer about doing is setting up what do we need? So what do they need in terms of water? What size pipe that would make that development work better? Working with utilities companies to get costs, to get designs about where those things would go, to set out at least a plan for infrastructure costs in that area. I think that is something we don't envision it being a huge cost at this point to set that up, to figure out phasing, to figure out next steps in terms of what needs to be done generally from an infrastructure standpoint, But to lay out how that would go, that kind of roadmap of what needs to be done, I think that would help the developer in terms of moving forward. I think from there we start to evaluate, do they go back? And I think that's a question for them. Do they come back with a TIF application again? If so, then we would go forward with a developer's agreement that would help outline when those things are going to be done and by whom. That's one thing that was not in the original distillery district TIF was the developer's agreement. But I think it would be helpful if they're wanting to move forward with the project to be able to say if they're marketing the properties to say a distiller wants to move in. We need a pipe of this sort, of this size. Is that coming? Yes, it is, and this is when it's going to be coming in. So those are questions that are still out there. I think from our standpoint, we're going to be working on how do we figure out from those larger infrastructure pieces what needs to be done and what is the preference for being done in that area. because we still don't know questions about burying power lines, upgrading of transmission and distribution lines, various issues like that. And we are trying to work with some of the individual property owners about how they move forward with putting in sewer and other questions as well. So would they have to go through a whole new process now for an application? They would. And that's not unusual. The webs had to do the same thing with CenterPoint as well. And in many ways, the TIF application probably needs to be relooked at. Just from where they were originally with that first application to where they are now, some of the numbers are probably just not going to work as well as they might have originally with their original thoughts with it. I think different things are going on there, and I think that's a time to revisit it and see where they want to go. Did we put some money into this application? We did. I believe we did. $50,000. I think it was one of the only ones I think we have, didn't we, actually put money into it? I believe so. Because normally I think it's the developer that puts that in, and I think we actually put money into it. Okay, thank you very much. Sure. Thank you. Council Member Akers. Don't go anywhere. So I guess, and I know that you weren't here then, so, you know, I guess do your best guess. So how was it, and maybe other council members that were here could weigh in, how was a TIF approved without a development agreement or development plan, and how was it allowed to sit idle for four years without really any action to then lose it? Like, doesn't that put us at a disadvantage or look bad or whatever to the state? I know in the nonprofit world, if you receive grant funding and you don't spend it, and have to return it, that doesn't really bode well in your next application. Right. And to the first question, I'm not sure what to answer because I wasn't here when it came out. And I think that's something we have learned from future TIFFs, is that we do want to make sure we have a developer's agreement, and we have those moving forward with the current TIFFs that we have. In terms of, and again, I'm not exactly sure how to answer your second question, about how does it sit without anything going on for a few years, I think a lot of that is the developers are the ones that really drive those projects and the activation time periods. I think in terms of, and that's where we are with the other TIFFs. The developers have told us when their activation dates are proposed to be and how they're going to move forward with it. In terms of withdrawing, we felt it would be better if you're going to withdraw than to go forward with a notice of noncompliance because I think that's the one where you get to, you know, if you want to come back in the future, if you have a notice of noncompliance and then kind of a letter of nonactivation later, I think that is a stronger kind of a negative against you than to withdraw before there is an issue that pops up, again, a noncompliance issue. And I think that's one of the things we felt was very important with this, since there really wasn't a good plan moving forward, development plan, to withdraw it rather than to go forward with it at that point, to preserve that right to go back. I think it would be much harder to go back in the future if we had not. So what should the developer have done to activate the TIF? What did they need to do? What would activation have looked like? This is where I'm not the expert on activations, but I can tell you my only experience with it is from what we've got from other developers in terms of what they've done. And in terms of – I'll let Jeff do it. He's a little more of a TIFFologist. TIFFologist. A TIFFologist. I will add that to my business card. So what was required was the setting of an activation date. And what activation does is it starts to clock. And let me step back for a second, which is the first thing to keep in mind is that a TIF, particularly an application to the state, is not a pledge of funding. What a TIF is is it is a mechanism in which you may be reimbursed. However, you must earn it. You've got to earn those dollars. So it's not a pledge of funding from the state. It's not guaranteed money. It is something that must be earned from new tax revenue in the district. And so it's a way for either the public or the private sector, or whoever invests in the public infrastructure to potentially be reimbursed, potentially, over 20 years or 30 years. And in a mixed-use TIF, which is the district that we created in the distillery area, that would be 20 years. So what activation does is it starts that 20-year clock running. Now, there are two things that you must do to activate. One is to set that date. The second one is you must spend a certain amount of money. What the threshold for the distillery district was is $20 million. So $20 million must have been expended, a capital expenditure, in the district in order to activate. And so had you set that activation date, and then that $20 million doesn't happen, and you start to eat into that 20 years, so now 20 years becomes 13 years, becomes 10 years, and you're unable to actually recoup the entire thing. So when Derek says that it's important to have a clear development schedule in order to set an activation date, That's why, is because this is about now particularly when the public may have been the one making the infrastructure investment. So if you look at the other TIF districts that Lexington has created to date, the project itself has covered most of the public investment, most of the infrastructure investment, and then the TIF is a way for that project to be reimbursed over time. And so because of that, that's why. So when you ask what could the developer have done, it's not as much the developer as that the project would have needed to be much further along. There would have needed to be a very clear development schedule and expectation of when funding would come into the district, when we crossed that $20 million threshold, when the rest of the infrastructure was going to come in. And without that clear development schedule, which comes with commitments both from the public and the private side, without that, it's very inadvisable to set an activation date because you then get into this problem where not only, you know, you may be in compliance, but now you have a non-performing TIF. And that non-performing TIF also sets the expectations and challenges our relationship with Frankfurt. Do either of you know how much money the developer in the distillery district spent towards this TIF or in the development area? Of that $20 million, do you know how much was spent? I would be making a guess at that number. I've seen it, and it is somewhere in the half of that realm. And it's not the developer, but that would be all of the investments running from Oliver Lewis Way back to Forbes Road. So that includes not just the lead developer, but also all of the other businesses that have gone in. So I think it was about half of that, but I don't want to give you a number exactly. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I see no other council members. Anyone else have a comment or question? Commissioner, would you mind – I just have a quick question. Would you mind to say, is Mr. McNeese going to be in your meeting with the various – Yes. Okay, thank you so much. Thanks very much. Any other questions on new business? I see none. So all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? All right, that passes unanimously. Can I have a motion, please, on the neighborhood development? I have a motion and a second on the neighborhood development funds. Any questions? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? That motion passes. And now I understand Mr. Farmer would like to bring forth a planning report. And I think our council administrator sent it out yesterday for council members. So I really don't. Oh, okay. Well, you don't have to. Oh, good. Thank you. No. Do you want to wait until next week? Well, we'll have the part to come forward about the B1 Zota next week anyway. Okay. So we could just combine the two if that's all right with you. Excellent. So it could go on next week. It could actually be in the packet. Okay. All right. Very good. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. And so we'll get it on the – I'm looking at our council administrator. Thank you. Very good. Are there any council reports? Councilmember Massadi. Thank you, Vice Mayor Gorton. I just wanted to congratulate all our veterans that we have employed at the Urban County Government and thank them for their service. I saw the picture outside with the firefighters, and from what I understand that we not only have firefighters that are veterans, that we have police officers, and I guess we have about 400 LFUCG employees that are veterans. And I just want to thank them for their service and all other veterans for their service. what a great country we have because of these men and women who have given their sacrifices and service to this country. And I know, I think it was a couple of weeks ago, we talked about nontraditional jobs, and we had three female firefighters that came to the scene of, I guess it was a brush fire, a mulch fire, and that was atypical. And, Chris, if you wouldn't mind, I want to talk about something else that is a little atypical. If you look at the young lady in the middle, that is my daughter. I was just told about this picture today from my aide, and this is an Elaine report. These are weightlifters. These women are all ages from about 28 to 32, young professionals, mothers, women, and they weightlift. My daughter can deadlift 300 pounds. So this is another kind of a nontraditional role that some of our women are facing, and I just as a proud mother wanted to show off that's all. So that's Emily, my daughter in the middle. Thank you, Vice Mayor. You're welcome. Councilmember Kay. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I just want to let the public know and Council Members that the Design Excellence Task Force is having a meeting for public outreach. It will be on the third floor conference room in the Phoenix Building. That will be November 14th, which is Thursday from 6 to 8 p.m. and materials related to that are online and available from the LFUCG website. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Thank you. Council Member Ford. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I briefly want to speak to an exciting development infrastructure-wise in an area in my district, boarded by Council Member Acres District. We received an e-mail earlier this morning from Commissioner Paulson that West 4th Street between Jefferson and Newtown Pike is now open to two-way traffic. And I just wanted to take this opportunity to applaud Commissioner Paulson and also publicly thank the officials at District 7 of the Transportation Cabinet for their hard work. I think it is going to be very impressive based on what Bluegrass Community Technical College is doing in that area, trains these new athletic fields and such. Just my personal belief is that it's really going to have an impact on Georgetown Street. as it comes into town, not only will you be able to make a right turn southward onto Newtown Pike, you'll now be able to make a left turn going north on Newtown Pike and to come into 4th Street in two-way fashion. So I know Commissioner Poulsen wants to express his appreciation to his staff, but I just wanted to bring that to our attention and thank all involved. Thanks, Vice Mayor. You're welcome. Council Member Lawless. Thank you, Vice Mayor. And I know that your family, you have lived your life as service to the armed services by being the wife of someone in the military, which I know can be difficult, and that your children have followed suit. And so thank you and all the other folks that have served. I would like to place in the Public Safety Committee an oversight of rehabilitation homes, regulations and oversight of rehabilitation homes. Do I hear a second? Second. Okay. The motion is to place the issue of the oversight of rehabilitation homes. Standards and oversight. Yes. Standards and oversight into the Public Safety Committee. And Council Member Ellinger seconded. Is there any discussion? Council Member Lane. Could you be a little bit more specific about the intent of your motion? Well, currently, and we talked about this in planning, a rehabilitation home is defined as a 24-hour facility where anybody can be rehabilitated, And it's very loosely described about who runs it, how it's run, what the standard best practices and standards are for a rehabilitation home. So that concerns me. Thank you. That answers my question. I support that. Are there other comments or questions about the motion? I see none. And all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? That motion passes. Is there any other council report? Councilman Rakers. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I wanted to thank you for coming and speaking yesterday. In my other capacity, I work for Volunteers of America, and we hosted a Veterans Day event at Phoenix Park. And the mayor was supposed to speak and was ill and canceled Sunday night. And so the Vice Mayor graciously agreed to speak on his behalf and did a great job. Of course, her family is, she has a long history of military involvement in her family and herself as well. So I want to thank her and everyone who attended. It was a very moving event, I believe, and successful. So thank you to everyone who attended and the veterans who were there as well. Secondly, I wanted to announce several neighborhood meetings that are happening this week. The first is this afternoon. Meadowthorpe Neighborhood is hosting a meeting for those concerned about a sound barrier that they would like to have installed along New Circle Road. They're going to meet at 4.30 at the Meadowthorpe Elementary. And then tonight, the Meadowthorpe Neighborhood Association is meeting at 7 at the community center at the park. Tomorrow night, the St. Martin's Neighborhood Association is meeting at the Charles Quillens, newly named Charles Quillens Center at Whitney Young Park, and that is at 6.30 p.m. And then Thursday night, the McConnell's Trace Homeowners Association will be meeting at 7 o'clock at Bracktown Baptist Church. And that's all. Thank you. Very good. Are there any other council reports? Go Cats. I want to just say one quick thing before we go Cats. I appreciated the comments, particularly Councilmember Lawless, about veterans' families and our families of the military. So often the families who sacrifice in big ways more than the public could ever know are frequently forgotten. And these families move. They're sent somewhere different in the world every two or three years. usually they don't complain and say well I don't want to go they just go and they uproot their children and they leave their friends and they deal with setting up a new household all over again and I know that when my husband was on active duty we moved five times in eight years and it is a burden that most of them bear with mostly joy because they're very supportive of the mission of their loved ones but I especially appreciated the comments about the families and I thank all of our urban county government employees who are veterans we have a lot of them close to 400 and appreciate their sacrifice and service so now council report is finished, so there is no mayor's report. And is there any public comment issues not on the agenda? No. Thank you, Mr. Mundy. Do I hear move to adjourn? All those in favor say aye. Anyone opposed? Okay, now we're go cats.