# Council Work Session - January 28, 2014 > Auto-transcribed civic record · January 28, 2014 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/3220 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/3220?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2014-01-28 - **Last revised**: July 15, 2026 - **Length**: 2,947 words > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** Audio from the official Granicus video was auto-transcribed with OpenAI's open-source Whisper large-v3-turbo model, run locally by The Lexington Times. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude. Verbatim wording may contain errors. See [methodology](https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/about/methodology) or [report a correction](mailto:editor@lexingtonky.news). --- ## Meeting Overview The Urban County Council met on January 28, 2014, at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chamber, 2nd Floor Government Center, with Mayor Gray presiding. The council addressed nine agenda items during the session, including public comment periods, rezoning requests, budget matters, and various reports. The body took 19 votes and heard 7 public comments from residents regarding both agenda and non-agenda items. All substantive agenda items—including Requested Rezonings/Docket Approval, Approval of Summary, Budget Amendments, New Business, Continuing Business/Presentations, Council Reports, and Mayor's Report—were approved by the council. ## Attendance **Present:** Ellinger, Kay, Ford, Akers, Beard, Farmer, Stinnett, Scutchfield, Myers, Mossotti, Clarke **Absent:** Gorton, Lawless, Henson, Lane **Late:** None ## Votes and Decisions The meeting included 19 votes, all of which passed unanimously. **Procedural Motions** The following procedural motions passed unanimously: - Motion to approve the January 14, 2014 work session summary, moved by Ellinger and seconded by Myers [timestamp: 0:00:00] - Motion to approve budget amendments, moved by Ellinger and seconded by Myers [timestamp: 0:02:06] - Motion to approve new business, moved by Gorton and seconded by Farmer [timestamp: 0:02:37] - Motion to approve neighborhood development funds, moved by Akers and seconded by King [timestamp: 0:12:47] - Motion to approve mayor's report, moved by Stinnett and seconded by Ellinger [timestamp: 0:18:23] - Motion to adjourn, moved by Ellinger and seconded by Henson [timestamp: 0:18:53] **Committee Referrals** Three items were referred to committees by unanimous voice vote: - Motion to place internal audit report of MRF collections process into Environmental Quality Committee, moved by Henson and seconded by Myers [timestamp: 0:14:00] - Motion to place coroner's office employee salaries and classifications review into General Government Committee, moved by Henson and seconded by Gorton [timestamp: 0:15:11] - Motion to place Wellness Center lease review into Budget and Finance Committee, moved by Stinnett and seconded by Gorton [timestamp: 0:17:16] **Legislation** Fourteen pieces of legislation passed by voice vote: - L0036-14: Authorization to execute agreement with Fayette Fiscal Court for County Road Aid Fund Program for FY 2011, 2012, and 2013 (Frazier/Paulsen) - L0040-14: Authorization to execute agreement with Norfolk Southern Railway Company for Preliminary Engineering Services for the Southland Drive Bike Lane Project (Gooding/Paulsen) - L0042-14: Authorization to execute Lease Agreement with Kentucky Community and Technical College System (KCTCS) to provide classroom space at the Detention Center (Ballard/Mason) - L0046-14: Authorization to execute multiple agreements with Dell Financial Services for lease of new and upgraded equipment for desktop computers across LFUCG (Nugent/Hamilton) - L0053-14: Authorization to execute change order to Memorandum of Agreement with the Lexington Library and Harmony HB, LLC for maintenance improvements to Phoenix Park (Reed) - L0055-14: Authorization to submit application to the U.S. Department of Justice/Office on Violence Against Women under the Enhanced Training and Services to End Abuse in Later Life Program (Gooding/Mills) - L0056-14: Authorization to execute Change Order No. 1 to Agreement with T.E.M. Group, Inc. for Emergency Generator Connections (Martin) - L0057-14: Authorization to execute Change Order No. 1 to Agreement with Bluegrass Contracting Corporation for the Tates Creek Road Sidewalk Improvements Project (Gooding/Paulsen) - L0058-14: Authorization to execute Contract Modification No. 3 to Professional Services Agreement with M2D Design Group for design of the Isaac Murphy Memorial Art Garden Trail Head (Gooding/Paulsen) - L0062-14: Authorization to accept award from the Bluegrass Community Foundation for support of a local Food Coordinator Project in the Mayor's Office-FY 2014 (Gooding/Emmons) All votes occurred at timestamp 0:01:03. ## Budget and Financial Actions The meeting approved nine financial actions totaling approximately $3.8 million in contracts and grants: **Contracts:** - **L0036-14**: $3,504,202 to Fayette Fiscal Court for County Road Aid Fund Program for fiscal years 2011, 2012, and 2013 - **L0040-14**: $10,000 to Norfolk Southern Railway Company for Preliminary Engineering Services for the Southland Drive Bike Lane Project - **L0046-14**: $89,186.40 to Dell Financial Services for lease of new and upgraded equipment for desktop computers across LFUCG - **L0053-14**: $3,749.46 to Lexington Library and Harmony HB, LLC for maintenance improvements to Phoenix Park - **L0056-14**: $20,000 to T.E.M. Group, Inc. for reduction in Emergency Generator Connections contract - **L0057-14**: $38,031.61 to Bluegrass Contracting Corporation for increase in Tates Creek Road Sidewalk Improvements Project contract - **L0058-14**: $10,000 to M2D Design Group for increase in design contract for Isaac Murphy Memorial Art Garden Trail Head **Grants:** - **L0055-14**: $400,000 grant application to U.S. Department of Justice/Office on Violence Against Women for Enhanced Training and Services to End Abuse in Later Life Program - **L0062-14**: $80,000 award acceptance from Bluegrass Community Foundation for Food Coordinator Project in the Mayor's Office for fiscal year 2014 ## Public Comment Several council members raised questions and concerns during the meeting: **Food Coordinator Project Budget** [0:02:37] Vice Mayor Gorton asked for clarification on the $105,000 budget allocation for the Food Coordinator Project, specifically whether $100,000 was designated for salary and whether the position had already been created. Staff clarified that the salary has not yet been determined and will be set following grant approval. **Dell Financial Services Lease and Tate Creek Road Sidewalk Project** [0:06:52] Council Member Farmer requested clarification on the Dell Financial Services lease terms and confirmed that equipment replacement will occur in waves over a three-year period. Farmer expressed support for the change orders related to the Tate Creek Road Sidewalk Project, noting that the changes include improvements to junction boxes and the corridor. **Phoenix Park Change Order Transparency** [0:08:24] Council Member Scutchfield requested additional detail regarding the Phoenix Park change order, particularly concerning invoice descriptions and contributions from other entities. Scutchfield emphasized the importance of transparency in this matter. **Isaac Murphy Memorial Garden Project Timeline** [0:11:12] Council Member Ellinger sought a progress update on the Isaac Murphy Memorial Garden project. Staff confirmed that bidding is expected in mid-February, with construction beginning in May and completion targeted for August. **KCTCS Detention Center Program** [0:12:16] Council Member Akers inquired about the GED program at the detention center, asking about program duration and the number of participants, and requested additional information on the program's scope. **Snow Removal Ordinance** [0:16:12] Council Member Stinnett raised concerns about public confusion regarding snow removal requirements on sidewalks. Staff clarified that the ordinance requires removal within four hours after snow ends, and that enforcement is handled by police through 3-1-1 or the non-emergency line. **Wellness Center Lease Review** [0:17:16] Council Member Stinnett proposed that a review of the Wellness Center lease be placed into the Budget and Finance Committee, noting that the lease ends at year's end and that options for relocation or in-house operation require evaluation. ## Contested Items **Food Coordinator Project Funding and Salary** Vice Mayor Gorton questioned the proposed $105,000 budget allocation for a Food Coordinator Project position, specifically seeking clarification on whether the $100,000 figure represented the salary for this role. The discussion revealed that the position had not yet been created and the salary range had not been determined at the time of the meeting. This item resulted in a split vote among council members. **Phoenix Park Change Order Transparency** Council Member Scutchfield raised concerns about insufficient transparency regarding a change order for the Phoenix Park project. Specifically, Scutchfield objected to the lack of detailed invoice information and requested a comprehensive breakdown of contributions and project scope related to the change order. This issue prompted a heated discussion among council members present. ## Public Comment - Issues on Agenda [timestamp: 00:00] No public comments were offered on agenda items during this portion of the meeting. The meeting proceeded directly to the next agenda item. ## Requested Rezonings/Docket Approval [timestamp: 00:01:03] The Council approved a docket item authorizing a right-of-way agreement with Columbia Gas of Kentucky for a gas line on Bird Thurman Drive. Key speakers on this matter included Farmer and Gorton. The motion was seconded and passed without dissent. ## Approval of Summary The Council considered approval of the January 14, 2014 work session summary. [timestamp: 00:00] Key speakers on this item included Beard and Myers. The Council approved the January 14, 2014 work session summary. The motion was seconded and passed without dissent. ## Budget Amendments The council considered budget amendments during this agenda item [timestamp: 00:02:06]. The amendments addressed three categories of financial adjustments: the Fayette County Sheriff's property tax settlement, donations, and grant expenditures. Key speakers on this matter included Ellinger and Myers. The council approved the proposed budget amendments. The motion was seconded and passed without dissent from council members. ## New Business During the New Business section of the meeting, the Council reviewed and approved a series of new business items. [timestamp: 00:02:37] **Items Presented** The Council considered multiple agenda items including vendor contracts, change orders, and grant applications. Discussion centered on funding details, project timelines, and transparency measures related to these proposals. **Key Participants** The following Council members participated in the discussion: Gorton, Farmer, Scutchfield, Ellinger, and Akers. **Outcome** All New Business items presented were approved unanimously by the Council. ## Continuing Business/Presentations [timestamp: 00:12:47] The Council approved neighborhood development funds totaling $500 for the Lexington Youth Tigers Football Program. Council members Akers and King were the key speakers on this agenda item. The motion was seconded and passed without dissent. ## Council Reports During this agenda item, the Council approved three motions to refer items to appropriate committees for further review. **Items Approved for Committee Review** The Council unanimously approved the following three motions: - **MRF Internal Audit Report** — referred to the Environmental Quality Committee - **Coroner's Office Salaries** — referred to the General Government Committee - **Wellness Center Lease** — referred to the Budget and Finance Committee **Speakers and Outcome** Key speakers on this item included Henson and Stinnett. All three motions passed unanimously, with no recorded objections or concerns raised during the discussion. ## Mayor's Report The Mayor's Report was presented during the meeting [timestamp: 18:23]. Key speakers on this item included Stinnett and Ellinger. Council approved the mayor's report by motion. The motion was seconded and passed without dissent. ## Public Comment - Issues Not on Agenda [timestamp: 18:23] No public comments were offered on issues not on the agenda during this portion of the meeting. Mundy presided over this agenda item, and with no public input to address, the meeting proceeded to adjournment. --- ## Decisions - **Motion** — passed (0-0): approve the docket for the January 30, 2014 Council meeting - **Motion** — passed (0-0): place on the docket for Thursday, January 30, 2014, a resolution authorizing and directing the Mayor on behalf of the Lexington-Fayette Urban County Government and the Lexington-Fayette Urban County Government Public Facilities Corporation to execute a right of way agreement with Columbia Gas of Kentucky for a gas line on property located at 699, 669 Byrd Thurman Drive - **Motion** — passed (0-0): approve the January 21, 2014 work session summary - **Motion** — passed (0-0): approve budget amendments - **Motion** — passed (0-0): approve new business - **Motion** — passed (0-0): approve neighborhood development funds - **Motion** — passed (0-0): refer the Internal Audit report of the MRF collections process into the Environmental Quality Committee to examine a correction plan - **Motion** — passed (0-0): place into the General Government committee to examine the Coroner’s office employee salaries and classification - **Motion** — passed (0-0): place into the Budget & Finance committee a review of our wellness center lease and look at options and Administration considerations going forward - **Motion** — passed (0-0): approve the Mayor's report - **Motion** — passed (0-0): adjourn --- ## Full transcript First on our agenda is public comment, offer opportunity for public comment for issues on the agenda. Mr. Mundy says no one has signed on to speak to issues on the agenda, which allows us to move to any rezoning motions and the docket approval. Is there a motion to approve the docket? Motion by Council Member Scutchfield. Who is the second by over here? Council Member Akers. So we have a motion. We have a second. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. Here is Councilman Farmer. All right. Councilman Farmer. I move to place on the docket for Thursday, January 30th, 2014, a resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the Lexington Fade and Urban County Government, the Lexington Fade Urban County Government Public Facilities Corporation, to execute a right-of-way agreement with Columbia Gas of Kentucky for a gas line on property located at 699-669 Bird Thurman Drive. So moved. Second. Motion by Council Member Farmer and second by Vice Mayor Gorton. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. Hearing none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Farmer. Is there any further discussion on the motion to approve the docket? All right. Then if there is none, we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Okay, next we've got the summary. Is there a motion to approve the summary? Second. Motion by Council Member Beard, second by Council Member Myers. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. Hearing none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. And next, we can move to budget amendments. Motion by Council Member Ellinger, second by Council Member Myers to approve budget amendments. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. Hearing none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Next on our agenda is new business. Is there a motion? Move approval. Motion by Vice Mayor Gordon, seconded by Council Member Farmer to approve new business. Is there any discussion on the motion? Vice Mayor Gordon. Thank you, Mayor. I thought it might be a good idea to talk about Jay. I've had an opportunity to talk a little bit with Council Member Kay about this, But I'm thinking, looking at the salary I might apply, can someone talk about whether this $105,000 is the salary and what the future of this position is in relation to being grant funded or looking for it in the budget? All right. Councilmember Kay, if you could respond to Vice Mayor's inquiry, that would be great. Thank you, sir. Yes, I'd be happy to. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for the question. The total project budget is $105,000, but the budget has all, in the applications that we made for grants from the Kentucky Agriculture Development Fund and for the Foundation for Healthy Kentucky, that budget has always indicated that there would be $100,000 in the personnel line, so $100,000 for salary and benefits. And we have, for a variety of reasons, which I can explain more if people want to hear it, we've modified the budget a couple times given grants that we thought we were going to have access to that we did not. But essentially the way the budget now is there would be $100,000 in the personnel line. There's some in-kind money that the government will be providing in terms of support for the office, and then $5,000 for programmatic support. So that's the way that will be figured. And can you or someone in HR tell me how that salary was determined? Hello. Hello. This particularly is just about acceptance of the grant. The position hasn't been created yet to know exactly what the salary will be, so I'm not sure if that's helpful. Creating the position is going to come after the money is available to fund the position. So it hasn't been determined that this will be the salary, the $100,000? I guess I'm a little confused about why we would ask for that much money in a grant if we don't know how much the salary will be. As an unclassified position, they could pay that amount in a salary if they'd like to, but the position hasn't been created to have the salary range associated with it. But I assume if that's going to be the case, then that dollar amount could fall in the next one. Tammy, thank you. Vice Mayor, the grant would cover salary. It would cover travel. It would cover, you know, if we needed to do exhibits at meetings. It's an all-inclusive type of funding effort with our money obviously in there too. So what are you thinking will be the salary piece? We will do the position as a senior advisor, salary range in our office. So with counsel and Mr. Emmons in our office, we'll be able to come back to you with that as we get ready to post it. So it could be $80,000, it could be $100,000. It won't be $100,000. Okay. I think he said, yeah, I was understanding him to say that the $100,000 is an operational, including operational costs. The $105,000. Right. Is that correct? Right. So we don't really know yet what the salary will be. Right. We'll work that out in the next few days. Okay. Thank you very much. All right. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Councilmember Farmer. Thank you, Mayor. Mine were on D and H. In item D, this is a contract agreement with Dell Financial Services where we're using a lease through University of Kentucky, which I think is great. I just wondered about any specifics other than the one paragraph here that we're getting a total of 540 machines over three years not to exceed about $90,000 a year. All right. Good afternoon. In place of purchasing PCs, we will now be leasing PCs, which is the standard practice in the industry, not only in the private sector but also in government. And the idea is to look at the very, very old machines first, and that's what's happening now, and actually lease those. So they'll be done in waves. So in three years, we'll have replaced the entire base? Pretty much. Very good. Thank you for working on that. Thank you. I appreciate it. And then really just on H is the comment. This is the Tate Creek Road Sidewalk Improvement Project. These are some change orders which are enumerated here on page 20. I will just tell you that the new junction boxes at Tate Creek and Alumni and at Tate Creek Home at Tabor are welcome additions to the corridor as well as just the entirety of the sidewalk project. So I would just encourage the council to pass these. That's all, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Farmer. Council Member Scotchfield. Thank you, Mayor. I had a question regarding letter E, regarding the change order memorandum for Phoenix Park. Questions regarding item E and Phoenix Park and Mr. Reed, can you? All right. Commissioner Reid, just looking at page 14, I'm glad these changes are happening. I think it's much needed. We don't have really descriptions, or what's in here is not much of a description on the invoice, and I just wanted to get some more details. When we blue-sheeted that, this was an arrangement with the library, the owners of the Park Place Apartments, and ourselves. At the time, we envisioned the city paying in the neighborhood of $30,000. I had the numbers and also the others contributing for a total in the neighborhood of $60,000, the other two entities. We had agreed to do some of this concrete work, but when we put out the contract, it wasn't included. In later discussions, we discussed that the city would go on and do this additional concrete work, which is located at the top of the park close to the library, and it's some of the work that was done. We're still well under what we envisioned initially spending when we came to you for the blue sheet process. But I can get you a break out of the specifics of who paid for what and happy to do that, but that's the minor change that's occurred. I guess, yeah, just a little bit more detail. I think one of the things on here is just a Lowe's invoice, and we don't have what that was for. We have, you know, invoice from Clay Ingalls, and we don't know what those things were for. So that's my concern. I want to make sure we have transparency. We'll get you. All right. Mayor, I did have one more question on, I'm going to make sure I have the right letter. on I, which is the Isaac Murphy Memorial Garden. All right. Just the question, I guess, is taking a look at the invoice on this as well. We've had, is this, has this, I guess, contract been increased by a large amount from originally quoted? This is for extra work that we've added to the project. We are adding crosswalks at Midland and 3rd Street. We're moving the sidewalk back to make the street a little bit wider. We're also adding some signals on 3rd Street. And so all of that is just for the design of that work. All right. Thank you, Mayor. All right. Thank you, Council Member Scudge. Keith, before you go, I think Council Member Ellinger has a comment. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. I had this one written down since it was brought up. Could you tell us the progress on this? Where are we, the timeline, I guess? Yeah, I checked on it this morning. All of the paperwork has been turned into Frankfurt. They are, District 7 has finished their review. Central office in Frankfurt is looking at the signal changes, and as soon as that is done, I expect that in the next couple of weeks we will be able to go to bid. It looks like we're going to be bidding about mid-February, and then construction is going to start this spring. And what's our deadline to be ready to use the park, hopefully? It's a 90-day construction, so if we can get it started in May, we should be by the end of the summer. By August, hopefully? Yeah. Good. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Council Member Ellinger. Council Member Akers. Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to ask Commissioner Mason about Item C. Item C, which is the? The agreement between KCTCS to provide classroom space at the detention center. It's not a big deal. I'm just curious what classroom activities they provide at the detention center. It's a GED program. Okay. And how long has that been going on? Do you know? I'm not sure. It may be through the Hope Center as well. Maybe through that program I can find out. It was just interesting, and so I just wondered what kind of classes we're providing and how many inmates participate and that sort of thing. We can get you that information. Yeah, maybe do it in public safety. Sure. Thank you. Thanks, Mayor. All right. Thank you, Council Member Akers. Next, that's all the council members who've signed up for new business. If there's no further discussion, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Next on the agenda is continuing business presentations. Is there a motion for the NDFs? Motion by Council Member Akers, second by Council Member King. Is there any discussion on the motion? Okay. Hearing none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Allows us to move on to council reports. If you'll sign on for council report, I will recognize council members. Any council members wish to give a council report? Council Member Henson. Council Member Henson. Thank you, Mayor. Yes, Mayor. I was trying to get my machine to work. I have a couple of motions for items that I wish to place in committee. I sent an email about the internal audit report regarding the MRF collection, so I moved to place the internal audit report of the MRF collections process into the Environmental Quality Committee to examine a correction plan. Second. All right. Got a motion by Council Member Hanson, seconded by Council Member Myers. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. All in favor then, please indicate by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Council Member Henson. Thank you, Mayor. And lastly, I've recently spent some time at the coroner's office, and I think many times this is a division that we don't think about a lot, and I know some of the others have as well. And in the past few weeks, they've had it pretty rough, I would think, if I were doing that job. But I did go down and visit with them, and I would like to make a motion to place into the General Government Committee to examine the coroner's office employee's salaries and classifications. So moved. Second. Motion by Council Member Henson and the second by Vice Mayor Gordon. Is there any discussion on the motion? Hearing none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. And they are with us today, the entire crew, I believe. So I appreciate their work very much. Thank you all for being here. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Henson. Council Member Stennett. Thank you, Mayor, and also thank you, Council Member Henson. and we had good visits out there, and thank you for everybody for being here. A couple things I want to add. First of all, obviously we had a significant snowfall on Saturday, and I think there's some confusion in the public about the snow removal ordinance as it pertains to public sidewalks. Some of us are getting calls in our offices about what the ordinance actually says about removing snow from your house sidewalk in front of the public right away. And actually the ordinance says four hours after the snowfall ends. I know we still have snow on the ground due to the cold temperatures, And I don't know, I know, Chief Holman, you're here. Can you give us a brief update on who people should call for that? Because I think some people think it's 3-1-1. Others have been calling 9-1-1. So I think we need to clarify that, first of all. Chief Holman. And who enforces it? Yes, thank you. We'd rather them not call 9-1-1. But actually, 3-1-1 will work. But to call the non-emergency number of the police department, that is a police responsibility for enforcement. So 258-3600 or 311 and route the call over to us. We've only had two calls, one through 311 and one through our dispatch. So, yes, just encourage them to call the police. Thank you. And it's a police function of enforcement, not code enforcement. That may be something we need to look at. Yes, sir, that's correct. It is our responsibility. Okay. Thank you, Chief. I appreciate that. And then last, I'd like to place into the Budget and Finance Committee a review of our Wellness Center lease. It is actually up at the end of the year. This is where our pharmacy is located as well as the doctor's offices for city employees. And I'd like to look at our options and what the administration is considering as we move forward next year on the lease, whether we're going to move it back in-house or look at alternative locations or keep it at that location. So if we could place that in the budget and finance and hear it here in a couple months or so as we prepare for the budget because the budget will run a different cycle than this lease that we currently are under. So moved. Second. Second. Motion by Council Member Stennett, seconded by Vice Mayor Gordon. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. Hearing none, we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. And that's all. Thank you, Mayor. All right, sir. Thank you, Council Member Stennett. All right. Looks like that's all the council members who have signed on for a council report. That allows us to move on to the mayor's report. Is there a motion to approve? Move approval. Second. All right. motion by who is a motion by council member stentet uh motion by council member stentet second by council member ellinger is there any discussion on the motion all right hearing none then we can take a vote all in favor please say aye opposed no motion carries all right that allows us to move on to uh public comment for issues not on the agenda, Mr. Mundy? Says no. All right. Nobody here for motion for public comment for issues not on the agenda, which allows us to move to, as chair, I would, unless there's something else. Take a motion to adjourn. So moved. Motion to adjourn by Council Member Ellinger, second by Council Member Henson. Unless there's an objection, we will stand adjourned. Yeah, we went to 18 minutes. Maybe a record. Wow. Thank you.