# Council Work Session - August 26, 2014 > Auto-transcribed civic record · August 26, 2014 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/3441 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/3441?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2014-08-26 - **Last revised**: August 26, 2014 - **Length**: 9,326 words > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** Audio from the official Granicus video was auto-transcribed with OpenAI's open-source Whisper large-v3-turbo model, run locally by The Lexington Times. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude. Verbatim wording may contain errors. See [methodology](https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/about/methodology) or [report a correction](mailto:editor@lexingtonky.news). --- ## Meeting Overview The Lexington-Fayette Urban County Government held a Council Work Session on August 26, 2014, at 3:00 PM in the Council Chamber, with Mayor Gray presiding. The meeting addressed 10 agenda items covering a range of municipal business including zoning matters, budget amendments, and administrative approvals. The council took 4 votes during the session, approving requested rezonings and docket items, meeting summaries, budget amendments, new business items, and adjournment. No public comments were recorded during either of the designated public comment periods for issues on the agenda or issues not on the agenda. The meeting included several informational presentations and reports, including continuing business presentations, council member reports, and the mayor's report to provide updates on various city initiatives and operations. ## Attendance The following members were present at the August 26, 2014 meeting: **Present:** • Gorton • Ellinger • Kay • Ford • Akers • Beard • Farmer • Stinnett • Scutchfield • Myers • Mossotti • Clarke • Henson • Lane **Absent:** • Lawless No members arrived late to the meeting. A total of 14 members were in attendance, with one member absent. ## Votes and Decisions The council took four votes during the August 26, 2014 meeting. **Approval of August 12, 2014 Summary** Scutchfield motioned to approve the August 12, 2014 meeting summary, seconded by Myers. The motion passed unanimously with all 14 members voting in favor: Gorton, Ellinger, Kay, Ford, Akers, Beard, Farmer, Stinnett, Scutchfield, Myers, Mossotti, Clarke, Henson, and Lane. **Amendment to Item E - Section 2-483(D)** Kay motioned to amend item E by adding a sentence to Section 2-483(D), seconded by Myers. The amendment passed on a roll call vote of 11-3. Members voting in favor were: Gorton, Ellinger, Kay, Ford, Akers, Stinnett, Scutchfield, Myers, Mossotti, Clarke, and Henson. Members voting against were: Beard, Farmer, and Lane. **Amendment to Item G - Fund Amount Replacement** Kay motioned to amend item G to replace the fund amount, seconded by Ford. The amendment failed on a roll call vote of 6-8. Members voting in favor were: Ellinger, Kay, Ford, Akers, Myers, and Clarke. Members voting against were: Gorton, Beard, Farmer, Stinnett, Scutchfield, Mossotti, Henson, and Lane. **Transylvania University Industrial Revenue Bond Public Hearing** Beard motioned to place a public hearing on the Transylvania University Industrial Revenue Bond on the docket for the September 11, 2014 Council Meeting, seconded by Gorton. The motion passed unanimously with all 14 members voting in favor: Gorton, Ellinger, Kay, Ford, Akers, Beard, Farmer, Stinnett, Scutchfield, Myers, Mossotti, Clarke, Henson, and Lane. *Note: Transcript timestamps were not available for these votes in the source materials.* ## Budget and Financial Actions The council addressed multiple financial items totaling over $41 million in expenditures, contracts, and funding authorizations during the August 26, 2014 meeting. **Major Contracts and Agreements:** • **L0840-14-14**: Authorized a $1,165,150 Purchase of Service Agreement and Lease Agreement with Lexington-Fayette Animal Care and Control, LLC for animal control services • **L0853-14**: Approved a $290,000 contract with Advanced Mulching Technologies, Inc. for ecological restoration services • **L0852-14**: Authorized a $100,000 amendment to the agreement with Lexington Community Land Trust, Inc. for the Newtown Pike Extension Project • **L0814-14**: Approved $22,500 for Emergency Response Diving International as the sole source provider for an initial open water scuba instructor course • **L0865-14**: Authorized an $1,800 agreement with NorthEast Christian Church for testing rooms **Grant Funding:** • **L0860-14**: Accepted $3,000,000 in additional federal funds from the Kentucky Department of Military Affairs • **L0861-14**: Authorized application for $4,000 in waste tire disposal/recycling funds from the Kentucky Division of Waste Management **Major Infrastructure Financing:** • **L0851-14**: Authorized LFUCG to apply for a $35,976,329 Low-Interest State Revolving Fund Loan for a sanitary sewer related project **Personnel and Organizational Changes:** • **L0837-14**: Approved $29,421 for position changes in the Division of Facilities and Fleet Management • **L0838-14**: Authorized $43,982 for additional position changes in the same division • **L0847-14**: Approved $1,359 for position changes in the Division of Parks and Recreation • **L0841-14**: Authorized changes in the Division of Family Services resulting in savings of $5,992 **Other Actions:** • **L0839-14**: Authorized donation of three police bicycles to the Fayette County Sheriff's Office with no fiscal impact • **L0844-14**: Approved release of easement at Saddle Club Way with no fiscal impact ## Contested Items The meeting featured one contested item that resulted in a split vote among council members. **Amendment of Item G Fund Amount** A motion was made to amend item G, proposing to increase the allocated fund amount from $750,000 to $1,000,000 - representing a $250,000 increase in the proposed funding. This amendment generated significant debate among council members, ultimately dividing the body. The motion to amend failed by a vote of 6-8, with six members supporting the increased funding amount and eight members opposing it. The close margin indicates substantial support for the higher funding level, though not enough to secure passage. The original item G language calling for "a fund of $750,000" remained unchanged following the failed amendment attempt. No additional details were provided in the available materials regarding the specific purpose of the fund, the rationale for the proposed increase, or which council members spoke for or against the amendment. This vote represents the only contentious issue that came before the council during this meeting, suggesting otherwise broad consensus on the remaining agenda items. ## Public Comment - Issues on Agenda During the August 26, 2014 meeting, a public comment period was held to allow community members to address issues listed on the meeting agenda. This agenda item provided an opportunity for public participation in the governmental process by enabling residents to share their perspectives on matters scheduled for discussion or action during the meeting. The public comment period was structured as an informational session, with no formal action taken by the governing body. This type of agenda item is standard practice in government meetings, serving to fulfill transparency requirements and encourage civic engagement by providing a forum for public input before official deliberations begin. No specific speakers, presentations, or particular concerns were documented for this public comment period. The session served its intended purpose as a procedural opportunity for community participation in the democratic process. The outcome of this agenda item was informational in nature, meaning the comments received were intended to inform the governing body's understanding of public sentiment regarding agenda matters rather than to prompt immediate action or decisions. ## Requested Rezonings/ Docket Approval The meeting included discussion on requested rezonings and docket approvals during the August 26, 2014 session. The agenda item focused on reviewing and considering various rezoning requests that had been submitted for consideration. The discussion covered the evaluation of rezoning applications and the approval of items for the planning docket. This represents a standard procedural item where the planning body reviews pending rezoning requests and determines which applications should move forward in the approval process. Following the discussion, the requested rezonings and docket items were approved by the meeting participants. This approval allows the rezoning requests to proceed to the next stage of the review and approval process. *Note: Specific details about individual rezoning requests, property locations, speakers, and detailed discussion points were not available in the provided meeting materials. Transcript timestamps were not available for this agenda item.* ## Approval of Summary The board considered approval of the meeting summary from August 12, 2014. Key speakers during this agenda item included Scutchfield and Myers. The item was presented as a resolution for the board's consideration. Following discussion, the board approved the meeting summary from the previous August 12, 2014 session. The approval allows the August 12, 2014 meeting summary to become part of the official record. ## Budget Amendments The meeting included discussion and approval of various budget amendments, though specific details about the nature and scope of these amendments were not provided in the available materials. The agenda item was presented as a resolution requiring formal approval from the governing body. While the specific speakers who presented or discussed the budget amendments were not identified in the source materials, the item proceeded through the standard deliberative process. The budget amendments were ultimately **approved** by the governing body, indicating that any concerns or questions raised during discussion were satisfactorily addressed or that the amendments were considered routine in nature. Without access to the specific amendment details or transcript excerpts, the exact financial impacts, departmental allocations, or policy implications of these budget changes cannot be determined from the available information. Budget amendments typically involve adjustments to previously approved spending plans, transfers between budget categories, or incorporation of new revenue sources or expenditure needs that have arisen since the original budget adoption. The approval of these amendments suggests the governing body found them necessary and appropriate for the current fiscal period's operations and financial management. ## New Business The council addressed several new business items during this portion of the meeting. Key participants in the discussion included Council Members Gorton, Myers, Mossotti, Ellinger, Kay, and Ford. The new business segment focused on various authorizations and amendments that required council consideration. Multiple council members contributed to the discussion, indicating active participation across different agenda items. Council Member Gorton, Myers, Mossotti, Ellinger, Kay, and Ford each participated in the deliberations, though the specific details of their individual contributions and the particular items discussed were not detailed in the available materials. The outcome of the new business discussion was approval, suggesting that the council reached consensus on the matters presented during this segment of the meeting. *Note: Specific transcript timestamps and detailed discussion points were not available in the source materials for this agenda item.* ## Continuing Business/ Presentations The meeting included presentations on neighborhood development funds and proclamations during the continuing business portion of the agenda. Three key speakers participated in this segment: Gorton, Akers, and Farmer. The presentations covered topics related to neighborhood development funding initiatives and various proclamations being considered by the governing body. The agenda item was classified as informational in nature, indicating that the presentations were intended to provide updates and information to the meeting participants rather than requiring immediate action or decision-making. No specific voting outcomes or formal resolutions were recorded for this portion of the meeting. The presentations appear to have been part of the regular continuing business conducted by the body, allowing for ongoing communication about community development matters and recognition items through proclamations. *Note: Specific transcript timestamps were not available for this agenda item in the provided materials.* ## Council Reports During the Council Reports portion of the meeting, council members provided updates on various topics and activities. **Key Speakers:** • Ford • Farmer The council reports served as an informational segment where members shared updates and observations relevant to city business. Both Ford and Farmer participated in delivering reports during this portion of the meeting. This agenda item was designated as a discussion item with an informational outcome, allowing council members to communicate with their colleagues and the public about ongoing matters of municipal interest. *Note: Specific details about the content of individual reports were not available in the provided meeting materials. Transcript timestamps were not available for this agenda item.* ## Mayor's Report Mayor Gray delivered a report to the council during the August 26, 2014 meeting, providing updates on various municipal issues and initiatives. **Key Speaker:** • Mayor Gray **Presentation Details:** The Mayor's Report served as an informational presentation to update the council and public on current city matters. This agenda item was structured as a standard mayoral briefing, allowing the chief executive to communicate directly with the legislative body about ongoing municipal affairs. **Nature of Report:** The report covered various issues affecting the city, though specific details of the topics discussed were not detailed in the available meeting documentation. This type of regular mayoral report typically includes updates on: • Administrative matters • Departmental activities • Community initiatives • Upcoming events or projects • Inter-governmental relations **Outcome:** The Mayor's Report was informational in nature, requiring no formal action from the council. This agenda item served its intended purpose of keeping elected officials and the public informed about executive branch activities and city operations. The report represents a standard component of municipal governance, providing transparency and communication between the executive and legislative branches of city government. No specific concerns were raised or debates initiated during this presentation, as it functioned primarily as a briefing mechanism rather than a discussion item requiring council deliberation or decision-making. *Note: Specific transcript timestamps are not available for this agenda item.* ## Public Comment - Issues Not on Agenda The meeting included a designated period for public comments on issues not listed on the agenda. This agenda item provided an opportunity for community members to address the governing body on matters of public concern outside of the scheduled discussion topics. No specific transcript timestamp or detailed information about individual speakers or comments was provided in the available meeting materials. The item was classified as informational, indicating that no formal action was taken in response to the public comments received. This type of public comment period is a standard component of government meetings, designed to ensure public participation and transparency in the decision-making process by allowing citizens to bring forward issues that may not have been included in the formal agenda. ## Adjournment The meeting concluded with a motion to adjourn. Scutchfield and Mossotti were the key speakers involved in this final agenda item. The motion to adjourn was approved, bringing the August 26, 2014 meeting to a close. --- ## Decisions - **Motion** — passed (0-0): approve the docket - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Motion by Akers place #11 on the docket without a hearing - **Motion** — passed (0-0): place #12 on the docket without a hearing - **Motion** — passed (0-0): approve the August 19, 2014 work session summary - **Motion** — passed (0-0): approve budget amendments - **Motion** — passed (0-0): approve new business - **Motion** — passed (0-0): correct language in item F (should read abolishing an unclassified position and creating a classified position) - **Motion** — passed (0-0): approve neighborhood development funds - **Motion** — passed (0-0): approve the Mayor’s Report - **Motion** — passed (0-0): go into closed session pursuant to KRS 61.810 (1)9c) for the purpose of discussing pending litigation - **Motion** — passed (0-0): return from closed session - **Motion** — passed (0-0): adjourn at 4:50pm --- ## Full transcript All you need Thank you. Thank you. guitar solo Music Council work session. We're going to go ahead and convene. Today is August the 26th, and this is our weekly work session. So the first item on our agenda is public comment for issues on the agenda, and there is none. So our second item is docket approval and rezonings, and do I hear a motion to approve the docket we have a motion by councilmember acres and second by councilmember Ellinger and we have let's see we have two items that need to be put on one is in district two item 11 for first reading this is the kroger leastown road so we'll need a motion to put that on um last mayor um i moved to place number 11 on the docket without a hearing so move okay we have a motion and a second is there any discussion all those in favor please say aye aye anyone opposed all right um does someone have a motion for item 12. that is we may not need a motion for item 12. is chris here chris king or bills here do we need a motion for item 12. this is a zoning ordinance text amendment okay so i am right it's not right it applies county-wide All right, thank you very much. All right, are there any other items for the docket? I see none, so there's a motion on the floor. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? That motion passes. We have the summary. Second. We have a motion to approve and a second. Is there any discussion of the summary? Seeing none. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? That motion passes. Budget amendments, pages 7 through 10. We have a motion and a second. Is there any question about budget amendments? Pages 7 through 10. Councilmember Farmer. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Mine is about the item at the bottom of page 9, journal 80131. this is to provide funds final phase of blue sky project decommissioning the original blue sky treatment plant and i'm just wondering does this what is the decommissioning process that will take this amount of money um essentially the tree the old treatment plant has to be demolished there is existing tanks out there existing equipment um given the age of it we suspect there's probably lead-based paint involved in it potentially asbestos in some small areas all right and then there's a very large lagoon out there that was used as part of the process originally that lagoon has to be de-watered and hopefully abandoned in place so this number is what you believe would cover all of those needs yes that's based on the engineer's estimate we believe that it will the money that we're using for this comes from revenue that was gained from blue sky sure during the course of our operation so basically reinvesting the customer's money and resolving the the situation permanently turning it into something yes much better i guess essentially the the plan at least has been preliminarily is to uh abandon the lagoon if we can abandon the lagoon in place that gives us the opportunity for a second salt barn moving forward as far as strategically located within the county. And then how long do you think this demolition and investigation would take? You know, the dewatering of the lagoon is the tricky part of it, is that they're supposed to be able to make the switchover, divert flow from the treatment plant into the new pump station by the end of September. That's the current schedule. Physically, yes. If we can get dry weather through October and November, pump that lagoon out into the pump station, get it empty without it filling back up, you know, that's going to be the key part of it. Because once we get all the water out of there, and plus we don't have to haul wet mud out of there, then it would go very quickly. But once we get the water out, a lot of it depends on what's under it. In the sediment, so to speak. I mean, we just cover it and go on. That's the idea? That is the perfect plan, is to be able to abandon it in place, dewater it, and do soil sampling and find out there are no contaminants of concern. Then we would bring fill back in there, level it, and be done. So who would have, would that be a state thing or a federal thing? That would be our responsibility. We own the facility. But I mean in terms of looking at those samples. Oh, that would be us collecting them and having them done by an independent laboratory. We would be sending that to the state. The state has oversight of closure plans for wastewater treatment plants. It's fairly unique. It's not like the closure of a nuclear facility or anything like that. It's much simpler than that. Thank you for that disclaimer. I hope it goes very well. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Vice Mayor. You're welcome. Council Member Stenet. Thank you, Vice Mayor. This is on Budget Amendment 801-40-41. and this is the money for our new public safety operations center it's on page nine of our packet this is the additional three main from csep can you is this an additional to what we've already budgeted or is this the money we expected to receive and where can you give us an update on the center itself and when it's going to be moving forward and where we're at this is the money that we expected to receive from fema the The word additional in there is because we've had a CSEP grant for a long time. This is the $3 million that's been earmarked for the construction project, the EOC, and emergency management space, and 311. So the status of that is the building has been completely cleaned out. The demolished contract has been fulfilled, and we are nearing finalization of the design drawings, and we'll hopefully issue an RFP for construction sometime probably in the next six weeks or so. Okay, so what's our estimated time frame to actually move in? Are we still on schedule? We're still relatively on schedule. It's probably, I think, you could say 16, 18 months from now that we'll have people moved in there. Okay, very good. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Are there other questions about budget amendments? I see none. So all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? All right. That motion passes. Do I hear a motion for new business? Move approval. Second. Motion and several seconds. Do you have questions, council members, about new business? Councilmember Farmer. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Mine's going to be on item I. It's on page 26. And I'm just, I always like to highlight when things are going really well. And this is an area where I think things are going really well. If you just wanted to thumbnail the use of these dollars. Highlights. I mean. Okay, I'm sorry, I didn't hear the question. Oh, that's all right. What are we getting for the 35, 36 million? basically originally there were two projects that we had submitted for the council to authorize us to accept loans for that was the west hickman seven west were waste water storage tank and and the second one which is expansion area three that's where that number came from in the time frame that we're going to it's going to take for us to design and build those KIA would like to see the money turned over much quicker. They don't want to loan you money and then you sit on it. That's been historically a problem for a lot of communities as far as being able to get the money out the door. Since it's federal money, you know, obviously they don't want it to be stockpiled. So they were concerned about our construction schedule for those two projects. So since West Hickman Wastewater Treatment Plant is on a faster track, we're asking for approval to take that loan money and apply it to the west hickman roll it on down yes that way we can execute that money quicker uh which then you know essentially it depletes their their state revolving loan fund money and puts them in a position to get more federal money down the road rather than having too much of it stockpiled we are still unscheduled to do west Tickman 7. We are still on schedule to do expansion area 3. This is all part of the remedial measures plan, $590 million. KIA is never going to loan us all of that money. It's really about using it strategically and the projects that are earliest in the schedule. But they've been an active partner and they're really kind of coaching us here, it sounds like to me. They have been a tremendous help in more ways than one. So we're very appreciative of the support they've given us. they work with us very closely, you know, that in the next go-around or their next appropriate go-around, we'll come back with West Hickman 7 and with Expansion Area 3. If there's still available low-interest loan funds, we intend to tap that as much as we possibly can. It's been an excellent outreach, and you've piloted it very well. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Vice Mayor. You're welcome. Council Member Stenet. Thank you, Vice Mayor. On item C, as in Charlie, not you, Charlie. I just said it. Thank you. Can anyone answer this? It looks like we're abolishing a security officer position and creating an administrative officer, which will also be part of the security team, but just a different title. That is correct. At this point, we've been evaluating the group and organizational chart and so forth. Identify the need for having someone on a higher level in terms of managing the entire group and be able to take a look in terms of the short-term and long-term plans for the entire section as well as all the future needs for additional security. Felt like this would be a much better use of that position. So will this be above David's position? Yes, yes. Okay, who would they report to? Me. Okay. My office directly. And we're decreasing the repairs and maintenance account? I've never seen us have too much money in repairs and maintenance. So I'm trying to figure out is that a worthwhile shift because you're going from an operating to a personnel count? It is. Unfortunately, that was the only option we had at this point, but we've looked into it and looked at the rest of the year what our contracts are for and what we expect to be spending on all those activities, and we feel comfortable at this point that we can meet that. Okay, and I guess this is a question for Mr. Maxwell. these changes are these in the current compensation amounts and with a new comp study which the council will consider in first reading Thursday night will that impact these I see a bunch of them on here today on our docket change in abolishing how does the comp study affect these have we looked at that yeah these numbers are the original numbers they do not the comp study hasn't been passed so they're not so when we pass it have we looked at these where they had would that have a negative impact on these they will have dollar amounts some level of impact I'm just curious why we keep bringing these to council but we haven't even we're getting ready to pass a comp study why not wait till after we pass that and then bring all these I mean we have one two three at least three or four today I mean you can go back and analyze I'm just trying to get a dollar amount well then if we pass the new comp say well we have to go back and look at all these jobs we've done the last couple weeks and will be a negative impact on our balance sheet well i don't think it'll be a significant impact shouldn't be well i'd like to see what the impact is if we could go through these and just give it to us before thursday night okay okay thank you thank you vice mayor you're welcome and councilmember Ellinger Mr. Maxwell Mr. Maxwell while you're at the podium Councilmember Henson if you don't mind Councilmember Ellinger also has a HR item yes I was given this from the division of human resources and said that we need a correction to item F I think that's 84 1-14 initially was abolishing an unclassified position and we're creating an unclassified position but actually we were abolishing an unclassified position and creating a classified position that's that's correct that's that's the change um it's a clerical error when we created it and the reason why we're creating the classified position is it's not it's not temporary or a grant funded position so it needs to be a classified position so i'll make that motion second all right we have a motion and a second to make the change in item f is there any discussion all those in favor say aye aye Anyone opposed? All right. Councilmember Henson. Thank you. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I had a question on item G, I guess, for Charlie or Commissioner Holmes. Charlie, I just wanted to check, does this have any impact on the property owners? I mean, are they already maintaining? Yeah, typically an easement such as this, the property owner would already be maintaining it. You know, all the easement grants us is the right to be able to use the ground for whatever purpose it is. Mowing and litter and those kind of things usually fall on the property owner anyway. It would be my understanding is that the property owners are the ones who are really trying to further this issue to start with. At least that was my understanding. Okay. Yeah, I just, I didn't think there would be, but I just wanted to make sure. Yeah, this is not something we're initiating. So, you know, it's, we're not trying to dump something on somebody else. It was the utility companies or the property owners? My understanding, it's the property owners. Usually the way these things go is that they come to us and we facilitate this through by checking with the other utilities to find out whether or not anybody has a strong desire to retain the property. And if we don't, then so be it. Mr. Murphy, did you want to speak to that item? Yes, I'm representing the property owners on those four lots. We initiated this. They maintain it now, and they will continue to maintain it. It's just so they can get slightly larger houses on the lots comparable with the other houses in the neighborhood. Okay. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Vice Mayor. You're welcome. Council Member Akers. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Mr. Maxwell, I just had a follow-up question. It's not really that big of a deal, I guess, just a concern. On the position that was just discussed for abolishing the life skills program instructor and creating the new social worker position, can you explain, maybe it's Commissioner Mills, but the difference in the salary that why life skills instructor would make more than a social worker just my you know sort of own personal interests the life skills instructor was on a grant and it was at the family care center this is a general I was like I bet it was dictated on what that salary had to be but it still is it's it's rated higher than the social worker and we've decided that a social worker would suit the purpose better with the mothers and it's cheaper It's still sad. It still makes me sad. Thank you, Beth. Are there other questions on new business? I see none. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? That motion passes. In continuing business, do we have a motion for the Neighborhood Development Funds? So moved. Second. All right. Is there any discussion? They're on page 33. I see none. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? That motion passes. Now, I'd like to ask Sharon Tankersley from, I believe, Drug Free Lexington to join me at the podium. And Drug Free Lexington advocates for drug awareness and rehab. Welcome. I just have a few remarks before this presentation, and this is a serious issue. Addiction is a serious problem that affects families all over Lexington. Sadly, serious battles with drug addictions lead to many overdose deaths every year in our city, and nearly all of us know families who have felt the disruption of addiction in their home. Commissioner Mason, who is here, and Chief Bastin and other leaders of our health care and law enforcement communities are working hard to raise awareness and coordinate support for individuals who need help. Also leading the charge against addiction are dedicated members of our community, such as Sharon, who are helping others through the pain of addiction to the path of recovery. Last Saturday, several citizen activists host an event at Jacobson Park, planting a tree to memorialize those who have passed away, flying kites in support of the hope for better lives. And we want to thank them for their time and commitment to this important life-saving concern. And we also want to recognize them and this city's commitment to fighting drug addiction with this proclamation. And this is a proclamation signed by Mayor Jim Gray. and it is in remembrance of those who have died from fatal drug overdoses and in support of friends and families who have lost loved ones. And Mayor Gray does hereby proclaim August 31, 2014 as Overdose Awareness Day in Lexington. And I want to give you this and ask you to say a few words. Thank you very much. Thank you for being here. Thank you. My pleasure. Vice Mayor and Council, thank you so much for a few minutes of your time today as we continue to shed light on this issue and raise awareness. As she mentioned, our event this past Saturday at Jacobson Park exceeded our expectations in terms of public commitment to the cause and the show of support that we had. We had family members among us with photographs of lost loved ones and a lot of raw grief. but the overarching theme of the day was hope because we want to continue to send the message to the community that there is hope available through recovery and that it's going to take all of us to continue to work towards making sure that the barriers to recovery are removed and that begins with helping all of us understand that our preconceived notions are inappropriate with regard to addiction and that we must make sure that every one of us does what we can to reduce and remove the stigma in our own minds and hearts towards those who are trying to get well from addiction. So on behalf of the heroin task force that we're a part of and all of those that were with us on Saturday and those that are walking the streets of Lexington today, thank you so much for making this an important thing for our community to focus on and raising it to a level of importance in this room today. I do also want to briefly, just one more minute, walk you through this packet that we had distributed. Part of this local awareness is an international movement, and that's why August 31st is designated. Somebody several years ago in Australia decided this was important, and so they started International Overdose Awareness Day, which happens every year on August 31st. So the silver ribbon that you have is something that you can continue to wear with us in solidarity in remembering the families that we represent in this community. And a couple of other items of note in the packet are just some pieces that our Heroin Task Force, led by your commissioner, Mason, have put together that we're about to roll out in the form of a community toolkit. And we're going to send one to every county in Kentucky. Because whether you know it or not, Lexington has put itself on the map because of the resources and efforts around this Heroin Task Force. and other communities are begging us for assistance in getting something like it started where they are. And so this toolkit is going out, the community guide, and then a report about some of the efforts of the task force, and then some of the little pocket cards that are being circulated that help send our messages of hope and resources that are available. And then the one that I'm especially fond of right now is our theme for overdose awareness is Every Life is Worth Saving. know the signs of drug overdose, and indeed the signs of overdose are on the back. So tuck that away. You might need it sometime. Thank you very much for your time today. Thank you. And I think there also are some folks here with Sharon. If you want to go ahead and stand up and come up. Okay, and maybe the council can join us. Thank you all for all this. Very, very important. Thank you. all right council members next on our agenda is a presentation by code for america and this is in your packet on starting on page 34. Good afternoon I'm just going to do the introductions and give you a little reminder if everyone remembers the Cope for America project we were one of ten cities selected I believe it's ten for this year and they have been working off and on here since February on lots of different things and that's really what they're here to do today is give you an update on kind of the process that they've gone through and what they have at this point, giving you a discussion of where we are and where we're going. Yeah, there we go. So, again, really quick, the three fellows that we have here are Eric, Lizzie, and Lydian, and I'm not sure if you guys have all met them, but I believe your aides have, if your aides have been here throughout the entire time. And they've done a great deal of work. And, again, I'm not going to give away everything because they are going to talk about the process and all the meetings and everything else that they've done. But again, a little reminder about Code for America. It is a nonprofit, and its whole focus is really to help governments, you know, get up a little bit better on technology. Working on apps, working on process, working on systems. As we know, we are not always the quickest when it comes to technology. I believe the discussion this morning talked about technology changing over every seven years. In government, it's probably closer to 20. So these fellows here are really here to help us and have done a great job at really looking at our systems, looking at the ways that they can help us improve. And with that, I'm going to let them start talking about what they've done and where we are. Thank you. Welcome. Thank you, Commissioner Paulson, for the intro. And thank you, Council, for having us here today. So far, we've had a really tremendous time working with Lexington, and we have so many community members that we would love to thank. Right now, we're going to jump into what we've been working on, and at the end of the presentation, we look forward to thanking everyone by name. So today, we're going to present on what we were initially asked to accomplish, our fellowship project process, the feedback that we've heard from legislative aides, city staff, and community members. the solution that we've been working on, and the next steps. So we were initially asked to help accomplish the following. Increase neighborhood quality of life and community engagement. Make city information more accessible and meaningful to constituents. Communicate proactively, and increase government efficiency in serving constituent needs. These goals stem from two primary problem statements. The city has had trouble communicating information with Lexingtonians proactively in a manner that is meaningful. The city also has difficulty sharing information across divisions and departments, which results in inefficiencies and missed opportunities. Now, we want to talk a little bit about our project process. A huge part of what we've been doing has been listening first. So we met as many Lexingtonians as possible to identify the needs of the users who would end up using the project. We asked how citizens currently interact with the city so we can learn how we can strengthen that relationship. We've had a really amazing time attending neighborhood association meetings. and I just want to thank Councilmember Clark, Councilmember Ford, and Councilmember Lawless again for having us at a few of your neighborhood meetings. We got to meet inspiring community leaders like Laura Hadfield at Partners for Youth up in that photo. And we spent a lot of time these days working with code enforcement data on our computer, but we also got to go out in the field with some of the inspectors and look at the properties that had complaints. So all these folks are doing incredible work for the community, and we just want to thank them again for helping us to get to know Lexington from their perspective. And following this research phase, we do a lot of experimental cycles, and that starts out early with small project ideas that we can create a bare-bones version of a project, put that in front of people who might use it, and get feedback quickly so that we can make sure that whatever we're building addresses those initial needs. Now we got a ton of fantastic input on different kinds of project opportunities. The hard part was narrowing the focus. Here we list the four points that we heard the most frequently. Top amongst these for many of the residents who we spoke with there's a high interest in learning what's going on down the block from their house. For example, folks want to know what the city is doing with a deteriorated property on their street and the truth is the city is working really hard to improve housing in neighborhoods and we want to help better communicate what the city is doing in order to help build trust. Now as for what can we done, we We phrased the two projects that we're working on in terms of this main big question, how can we open up city information and proactively communicate this information in a way that's meaningful to the people who all digest it. So for the following portions of the presentation, we'll talk about the housing indicator dashboard and Citigram, which is the platform for notifications. Thanks, Levy. My voice is a little shaky, but I'll see what I can do. So, yeah, a lot of this information is around housing data, and so we've outlined a couple points here about why we started with that, and a lot of it has to do with the fact that from the great feedback that we got, it was a lot about housing information was interesting to people. That was something that obviously is very local, and so a lot of interest in that in our interviews. People came back with that, and also we've had a lot of really tremendous support from the city and from David O'Neill and the PVA to get access to that housing information. So that's been really helpful to us. So our overall mission with this project, this housing dashboard, is outlined here, but I might highlight the idea of making the information meaningful to the residents is a really key point. At the end of the day, we really want to start our work with what's going to be useful to people that are actually in the communities to do their work and to connect with their neighbors and to advocate and engage with you all, and that's our primary objective. So as we do this work, we look to also other cities who have done similar work and taken inspiration from that and learned from some of their experience over the years. There's a few here that we've picked out, one in particular from Charlotte, Mecklenburg County. They've had a quality of life study ongoing for over a decade that was really helpful to us. Here's kind of a sneak peek of what the tool actually looks like. But overall, it's a tool for understanding the housing trends in a neighborhood. It's a little washed out. I apologize for that. And so, and here's a couple notes that came actually in speaking with the council, some of the council legislative aides about things that they, as we put this tool in front of them, they came, we got a lot of great feedback that was, really helped guide the way we think about how to spend our time and how to prioritize features. So here's a couple ideas that were really helpful to us. And Lizzie will walk through the video demo. How do I make it play? Just advance to the next one. Oh, okay. So the dashboard has housing code complaints, nuisance complaints, building permits, foreclosures, and average property values. And as you can see, you can hover over a voting precinct and see the value for that particular data set for that voting precinct. So right now it's playing through the years 2011 to 2014, showing the changes in building permits. And you can't really read it, but at the bottom there it has information on why each of these data sets is important and valuable. and you can see trends over time and averages across different voting precincts for all of that data. And it's really robust. It has a lot of information in it. The other project that we have been working on is Citigram. And Citigram is a project for where users can select areas they care about and issues that they care about to receive notifications about happenings regarding those issues. And this particularly speaks to the proactive communication that citizens have been seeking from the city. Because as Lemian mentioned, the city is doing a lot of really great work and there's a lot of things happening in the community. And this is a tool that allows them to engage with that. Um, the, uh, data in the, in, uh, Citigram is, um, all the same data that is used in the dashboard. Um, they are sitting on the same, uh, platform. and the two are actually interrelated. So the more data that were information from different departments that we can add to Citigram or to the dashboard, the more we can make available for notifications via Citigram. And similarly, we have a video here. So when you go to the site, it allows you to select one of these topics, these three topics, code complaints, foreclosures, and building permits. So we can say we're interested in code complaints. We can type in our address and decide on an area around that address that we care about. And if we click get Citigrams near you, we can type in our phone number and receive a text message when there's a new code complaint in the area that we cared about. And so that's really exciting. And email will be available as well. So coming out of these two projects, we're particularly interested in working with our fabulous city partners and the community to do more experimentation and testing and identify some areas for improvement. We're also, in the next few months of our fellowship, working with the city to develop a sustainability plan so that these projects can be changed, added to, continued after the end of the fellowship with local tech community as well as the city, and making sure that there's a foundation for them to be continued. So, yeah, in the process of working on these couple projects, and there have been a few others as well, we've noticed a few sort of key threads, and a lot of that is that information can be spread through different departments and throughout the city, and that presents a challenge to people that work here, but then also to the community members who would like to understand the goings-on of the city better as well. And so one of the really, I think, the things we're most excited about is leaving a platform that others can build on and have this information be continually updated and also have sort of people that are inside the city that are able to do that without spending too much of their time and overhead to make that happen. So, yeah, it's sort of this idea of creating a foundation that others will be able to build on that I think we're really excited about in order to make this information meaningful to constituents and understand the city better and, you know, bridge that gap between the city and the constituents. So, in addition to these two projects, we've had the opportunity to work on other projects as well. We've been working with Open Lexington, which is the local Code for America brigade volunteer group that works on similar types of projects on a very part-time basis. And we've worked with them to get health scores from the city's health department so that they can be added to reviews on Yelp.com. So when you go to look at a restaurant, you'll be able to see the health score for that restaurant on Yelp, and that'll happen this fall. We also have been able to demo an interesting tool for transit planning that was created at Code for America called Transit Mix with the folks at Lex Tran. And they have seemed really excited about using it and are intending to use it for route planning and cost estimates in the future. and maybe our favorite thing has been really just interacting with the community and being able to kind of harness the awesome power of the excitement people have around these issues in Lexington working again with open Lexington we've been able to hold two very successful events bringing the community together to work on creating cool applications and interesting interesting tools for Lexington. We also had an amazing opportunity to sit down with a Girl Scouts troop of third and fourth graders. And Livian and I went and talked about women in technology and making maps. And it was an extremely fun experience. And we're really lucky to have had that here in Lexington. As Livian mentioned before, there were so many amazing people who enabled this to happen for us and to be here this year. Lexington is unique in that there were a whole bunch of different people from the community who stepped up to make this happen, and it was an extremely awesome experience, and we're very grateful to all of those people. Additionally, we wanted to thank David O'Neill at the PVA, Open Lexington, the Code for America Brigade, the Council Legislative aides, all of whom have provided information and feedback that has been invaluable to our experience, as well as our city partners, Shay, Jamie, Commissioner Paulson, Jonathan, Chris Corcoran, Wes, Aldona, and Chad and Brittany from IT. It's been super awesome, and they're all great. Thank you so much for listening to us, and we're happy to answer any questions that you have. Thank you very much. Are there any questions, Councilmembers? Councilmember Massadi. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Thank you all for your work. A couple of questions. When do you all finish up your stint here? The fellowship is over in mid-November. Okay, so will you have all these programs ready for citizen access so they can be able to use them before you leave? Yes. Great, great. And I'd invite you up to my office anytime. I haven't had the opportunity to visit with you, but would welcome that. Thank you. Definitely. Councilmember Lane. Well, I thought our viewers today would be interested to know what city you came from, because you're not locals here in Lexington. I know you've come in to bring ideas from around the country. So maybe you could tell us what city you're from and a little bit about your background. Sure. I come from Lincoln, Massachusetts, originally. I've been living in San Francisco for two years now, and my background is in art and design. I grew up in Michigan and spent a lot of time in Chicago where I met my wife who actually is from Lexington. So I have spent a lot of time here as well over the years. I'm from Oakland, California, and then spent about seven years in Oregon, then moved back to the Bay Area for the fellowship. Okay, well, do any of you guys are interested in moving here on a permanent basis? We're looking for talent here, young professionals. So what do you think? Is this a good city for young professionals? Absolutely. We've met amazing people doing great work, especially in the technology and education space and community around technology. It's been incredible. You're aware that Lexington has one of the best educated workforces in the United States. And have you seen a lot of those people when you've been moving through the city? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, everyone we've spoken with is excited about the overall trends that have, you know, the city seems to be doing great things pretty much everywhere you look, and we've heard a lot about that. Okay. Well, thank you all very much, and I'll leave a lot of good ideas here. Okay. Thank you. Councilmember Akers. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Thank you all for the update. I was really excited to hear about this a year ago when we kicked it off. And so I'm glad to see what all you've done. I think that it's very exciting. And I know a lot of residents in my district will be glad when it's available so that they can look up the information you all have gathered. And you mentioned trying to collate, I guess, or access, tap into other data that the city has. Do you have thoughts on what that might be? or when that might, I mean, I guess that's not going to be under your purview, right? So you'll just recommend that for Aldana's shop or Derek's shop or someone to do next behind you? Yeah, that is true to a large degree. And a lot of the work we'll do is to set up that sort of foundation so it's easy when someone does have interest in a particular area that they're able to make that information available or sort of collated with the rest of the information as well. sort of set up that foundation so that that is a relatively much a much simpler process do we know this is probably for derek where this will continue in what department this um will see this next year or who's going to manage this beyond the fellows i think some of the management issues are probably for aldona i think it fits best there but in terms of data i think we have intentions of trying to figure out what other data we can put in there not only from my department, although a lot of it is already from our department, building inspections, obviously, and code enforcement. We're going to see if we can put zoning violations possibly as well. Some of those things are still kind of lacking a database. So as we move forward with Acela, a lot of the data that will be in there will be easily put right into this system. And I think there's some other natural fits in terms of neighborhood level data. Well, that's what, I mean, I was, while they were presenting, I was thinking, you know, that Lex call we have, I mean, that's a database that's easily accessible, I would think, that I know our aides pull from and and I have my aide check back on calls that have been reported and so is that something where a citizen could report their neighbor for tall grass or a pothole and then go here and check on and see if it's been if the pothole's been fixed or why hasn't it or where it stands in the process or I think some of that that and again with this I think in terms of some of those features I'm not sure if you'll be able to click on it and find that exact you know call and be able to say, okay, is it fixed? What status is it in? But I think there are some other things we're also working on where we can do that with other data sets. And I think that's the goal, particularly with code enforcement and 311 down the line. That's kind of the third stage of Acela to really bring that on, where you can get drilled down to specific calls. This is more kind of the aggregate, although it will allow you, and I think this is an important thing, to download these data sets as well, to be able to comb through them at an even more finite level. But in terms of that, you know, I want to know this particular call on this day. What status is it in? I think that's a little bit beyond what we've developed here. Or if you, I mean, I can just see if you, you know, get a text that says, your pothole's been filled, you know. Wouldn't that be fun? And then, or also like city events, you know, that if we have a 4th of July parade is coming up. I mean, you could sign up to register for city events and get text messages or grants and RFPs in Todd's office, you know, if you want to sign up so that people get text notifications that there's a new grant in Commissioner Mills' house or RFPs that go out. And that's exactly, I think, that really this is the kind of conversation that this kind of work starts to happen. You know, for a long time, technology has been, let me say it behind sort of closed doors, what can we do to make ourselves efficient? And by the way, that is still an issue. The second issue, though, is that over that time, we've collected a lot of data. We've put that data out into an open portal. But you know what? It's kind of old-fashioned. It's all there. You need a lot of skill to get it out. I think what you see is sort of the beginning of how some of that data can be used. And let me just present one opportunity for you to start to distinguish. When we talk about apps, we talk about that in a very specific way versus applications. Applications require a lot of upfront work, require a lot of data gathering, and that's what we do for financial systems and human resource systems. Apps are those quick kind of things where we take the data that's already there and we make it presentable in a form that can be used by citizens and almost everybody else. And that's the part that this is the beginning. So now we've got to figure out what other data do we have and how we can present it. And sort of you asked about what is the follow-on to this. Well, the follow-on is how do we now take what was developed, make sure that the data is set appropriately, because you've got to keep renewing it. If you've got old data, it's not good. How do we do that with the least amount of effort and the least amount of our engagement so that it's out there to be used when it's really, really useful, and that's in a timely manner? So I know I've given you probably more than what you wanted to know, But I think that that's really the beginning of what you do with an apps kind of world. Thank you. I mean, I think that's exactly right and great work. Thank you, guys. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Councilmember Myers. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Thank you for coming in today. I just had one question for the fellows. How many people did you guys interview in the process of determining what projects to do? Somewhere between 50 and 100, if not more. because we each, you know, there was some where we were all there and then there were some individually that happened at the same time. Sure. Okay. Thank you. And then Commissioner? So moving forward, when they talked about collecting data like the Yelp health review data, how often will that be updated? Because the reason I ask is if I have a restaurant and I have a review that's not particularly the best in the world, and that goes out on Yelp, and we don't update this information for a year, then that remains out there on Yelp for a year. I'm going to leave that to the fellows because I'm not sure at this point. Well, but they'll be leaving, though. But they also set it up, and I didn't, so they could probably tell how they set it up. So that's why I was asking. Okay. The information comes directly from the health department, And so on a monthly basis, the health department uploads their reports for new inspections on their website. And so what the Yelp information will be will be the most up-to-date information you would find, just like if you went into the restaurant at that time. The score may have been from a month ago, but it will be 98. So that's what you'll see. What they've helped design is an automation, a process that when the health department puts their information up, it goes directly into Yelp. Okay. So then, and that's awesome the way that's set up. But I guess the real question is for the city in terms of, well, I guess if that's automatically going to happen, so that'll happen, nobody ever has to do anything with that again, right? I don't know from any technical sides. I mean, y'all might know more. It's actually, the project was built out by the group Open Lexington here in town. And so a lot of our work is just facilitating with the health department in order to get that sort of just to talk to the right people and facilitate, really. So, yeah, Open Lexington would continue to shepherd that project. It's a relatively simple one in terms of keeping it up and running, but that's on their sort of some of the work they do is keeping that up and running. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Vice Mayor. You're welcome. I think some of our young folks are in the audience, too, who've been helpful. Thank you. Are there any other questions? All right. Well, we want to thank you all, Eric and Livian and Lizzie. Thank you. And appreciate your presentation. And we'll look forward to seeing this on our website. Will you be coming back to give a report in November? Yes, we will. We'll be back in November. All right. Very good. Safe travels. Thank you, everyone. Thank you very much. All right, Councilmembers, we're now on for Council reports. If you'll log in, please. Councilmember Farmer. Thank you, Vice Mayor. First, I wanted to just tell the Council what a great street fair We'd had the Chevy Chase on Saturday evening and thank all of the members of the Division of Police who were there to make sure everybody was safe. And it started to rain a little bit late. We cleared the street and everything. It was a great gathering. And is Commissioner Reed still here? Is he in the audience? And that's all right. I just know from I hadn't followed it closely myself. But when the weather had changed and we actually had to move the event that was going to be at Moon Dance and we moved it to the downtown arts center, I think that just shows the great opportunity that the new budget gave us in terms of providing a place for something to happen. And to be nimble enough to take the event and move it and make it a success, I just wanted to compliment you and the staff of the downtown arts center. That was great. Thank you. You're welcome. Don't hesitate to do it again. I won't. Thank you. And then I was going to take just a moment to introduce the mural portrait right over here. We'll just take a moment. All right. Thank you. While we're on break, we always try to go out and see what portraiture is available. in our archives. And this portrait is of James E. Davis. And he was our second mayor. And this particularly is the oldest of the portraits that we have. Now, this one wasn't available to us last year because it had some damage to the frame. The portrait itself is intact, but we had the frame redone. Briefly, Mayor Davis was mayor from 1835 to 1836. He was born on April 23, 1791. He was the son of Reverend James Davis and his wife Mary. On May 31, 1815, he married Margaret Thompson Moore, a daughter of the Reverend James Moore, who was the first rector of Christ Episcopal Church. His wife died of cholera in the epidemic of 1833 at the age of 42. Mr. Davis was elected mayor for his first term January 3rd, 1835, and was re-elected the following January 2nd, 1836. In addition to his service as mayor, Mr. Davis held a number of other public offices, including deputy sheriff, high sheriff, one I'm not familiar with tax collector state representative and justice of the peace Mr. Davis was the son in law of Charlton Hunt Lexington's first mayor one of our new portraits thank you that's my report very nice thank you very much we may have to designate you as our official historian for the chamber does anyone else have a council report I'd like to go ahead then and give mine. The first thing is this map shows our four dog parks that we have created since 1999. And as you know, we had our rededication and our ribbon cutting of the new Jacobson Dog Park. And it was on August the 20th. And that was the evening where right around the time of our dedication, we had severe thunderstorms and we had 60 mile an hour gusting winds and pretty much everybody left the dog park. So I wanted to thank Director Brad Chambers, as well as Stacy Diamond, Jackie French, and Alana Insko from Parks, as well as Councilmember Skutchfield and Brad White from GTV3, because some of us, along with some Friends of the Dog Park folks, went up into the shelter and had our ribbon cutting. And it was quite exciting. but if you have not been out there to the jacobson dog park the new new one i urge you to go it's just beautiful and it will serve us well for many years to come and then while we're on that last year i or last week i announced the dog paddle and i didn't have the flyer available but it is coming up September 6th from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. at the Woodland Aquatic Center. It's $10 per dog, which includes two people. People may not swim. Only the dogs swim. And if you aren't with a dog, you can pay $5 to get in and watch. And dogs must have their proof of rabies vaccination. And this fundraiser is the only fundraiser which friends of the dog park does in conjunction with the division of parks and rec and it raises a nice amount of money which goes back into our dog parks so come on out and watch if you don't have a canine friend to be to bring and i think you'll have a lot of fun and then finally i wanted to also announce the friends of the arboretum gala which happens every year, and it is their main big fundraiser for the Arboretum. As you know, the Arboretum is not in our budget. It's not, even though it's the state botanical garden, it is not on the state's budget. And the friends have to raise money to continue a lot of the work there, as well as volunteers do the work. So the Arboretum Gala is September 14th from 4 o'clock to 7 o'clock at the Arboretum. It's great fun. There's a silent auction. There's loads of flowers and food, and you can call for tickets at 257-6955. Thank you very much. And now, Council Member Lawless. Just quickly, I wanted to comment on the Woodland Dog Paddle, since it's in the 3rd District. I don't have a dog, which is a good thing because I don't have time. But anyway, it is well worth $5 to go as an unattending without an animal, especially if you have children, small children or grandchildren, which some of my grandchildren have been here the last couple of summers. and they just it's just it really is a hoot so uh and actually the people there are as much fun to watch as the dogs but it's a it's a fun it's a fun event it raises a lot of money and if you don't have a dog don't feel self-conscious there are a lot of dogless people there thank you thank you Does anyone else have a council report? All right. We have a mayor's report to approve. They've approved. Second. We have a motion and a second. Is there any question? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? Okay, that motion passes. And now we have public comment for issues not on the agenda, and there is no one to speak. So, Council Member Ellinger now has a motion. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I move that we go into closed session pursuant to KRS 61.8101C for the purpose of discussing pending litigation. So moved. Second. All right. A motion and a second to go into closed session. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? All right. That motion passes, and we'll adjourn. I mean, we'll go into the caucus room for our closed session. Thank you. guitar solo Hear a motion to come out of closed session. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Anybody opposed? That motion passes. Do I hear a motion to adjourn? Second. Very good. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Anybody opposed? We are adjourned. Thank you very much. I'm so sorry.