# Council Work Session - January 27, 2015 > Auto-transcribed civic record · January 27, 2015 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/3573 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/3573?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2015-01-27 - **Last revised**: January 27, 2015 - **Length**: 5,231 words > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** Audio from the official Granicus video was auto-transcribed with OpenAI's open-source Whisper large-v3-turbo model, run locally by The Lexington Times. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude. Verbatim wording may contain errors. See [methodology](https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/about/methodology) or [report a correction](mailto:editor@lexingtonky.news). --- ## Meeting Overview The Lexington-Fayette Urban County Government held a meeting on January 27, 2015, at 3:00 PM in the Council Chamber located at 200 E. Main St, Lexington, KY 40507. Mayor Gray presided over the session, which included five agenda items and resulted in seven motions and votes. The meeting addressed several substantive matters, including requested rezonings and docket approval, approval of a summary, budget amendments, and new business items. Two members of the public provided comments on issues appearing on the agenda. All major agenda items—including the requested rezonings and docket approval, summary approval, budget amendments, and new business—were approved during the meeting. ## Attendance The following individuals were present at the meeting on January 27, 2015: * Mayor Gray * Council Member Scutchfield * Council Member Akers * Council Member Farmer * Council Member Henson * Council Member Stinnett * Council Member Gibbs * Council Member Lamb * Council Member Massadi * Council Member Maloney * Council Member Brown * Council Member Ford * Council Member Evans No council members were absent or late for this meeting. ## Votes and Decisions The following motions were voted on and passed during the meeting: **Approval of the Docket** [timestamp: 0:06:00] - Motion by: Council Member Henson - Second by: Council Member Lamb - Outcome: Passed by voice vote **Resolution Authorizing Agreement with the United States Marshal Service** [timestamp: 0:07:08] - Motion by: Council Member Massadi - Second by: Council Member Henson - Outcome: Passed by voice vote **Approval of Summary** [timestamp: 0:07:39] - Motion by: Vice Mayor Kay - Second by: Council Member Henson - Outcome: Passed by voice vote **Approval of Budget Amendments** [timestamp: 0:08:12] - Motion by: Council Member Henson - Second by: Council Member Massadi - Outcome: Passed by voice vote **Approval of New Business** [timestamp: 0:15:48] - Motion by: Council Member Farmer - Second by: Council Member Henson - Outcome: Passed by voice vote **Motion to Go Into Closed Session** [timestamp: 0:36:31] - Motion by: Vice Mayor - Second by: Council Member Evans - Outcome: Passed by voice vote **Motion to Adjourn** [timestamp: 0:52:42] - Outcome: Passed by voice vote All motions were decided by voice vote. No roll call votes were conducted during this meeting. ## Budget and Financial Actions The meeting included approval of several financial actions and contractual agreements: **Bonds and Performance** - Purchase of the Constitutional Officers' Performance Bond for Donald Blevins in the amount of $400,000 (Resolution 0045-15) **Professional Services** - Professional Service Agreements with Sexual Assault Nurse Examiners, budgeted amount, with the following providers: Carrie Barnett, Susanna Moberly, Angela Wallace, Lauren Vincent, Melissa Young-Flynn, and Brigette Holleran (Resolution 0066-15) - Agreement with Horizon Information Systems for Representative Payee Software in the amount of $586.50 (Resolution 0067-15) - Agreement with University of Kentucky Albert B. Chandler Medical Center for Sexual Assault Treatment Program in the amount of $3,000 (Resolution 0070-15) **Bond Fund Reallocations** - Reallocation of $1,687,889 in funds from the 2010A bond, moving money from the Distillery District project to the Sr. Citizens project - Reallocation of $1,687,889 in funds from the 2015 bond, moving money from the Sr. Citizens project to the Distillery District project ## Public Comment Two speakers addressed the council during the public comment period. **Council Member Gibbs** [timestamp: 0:16:21] discussed recent developments in the third district. His remarks highlighted redevelopment projects and school rankings that have received media attention in the district. **James Frazier** [timestamp: 0:17:57] addressed a parking authority citation issue. He explained the problem with parking citations and described the steps that have been taken to resolve the situation, including the provision of refunds and vouchers to affected parties. ## Contested Items **Parking Authority Citation Issue** The parking authority faced community opposition regarding late fees applied to citations. Community members expressed concerns about the fee structure, which prompted the board to convene and address the matter. In response to the backlash, the board passed a resolution to refund affected individuals who had been charged late fees on their parking citations. ## Public Comment - Issues on Agenda [timestamp: 00:05:30] No public comments were made on issues on the agenda during this portion of the meeting. ## Requested Rezonings/Docket Approval [timestamp: 00:06:00] The docket for requested rezonings was presented to the council for approval. Council Member Henson and Council Member Lamb participated in the discussion of this agenda item. The docket was approved without any zoning issues being raised or identified during the meeting. **Outcome:** Approved ## Approval of Summary The summary of the previous meeting was approved during this agenda item. [timestamp: 00:07:39] Vice Mayor Kay and Council Member Henson participated in this discussion. The summary was presented for approval and was subsequently approved by the council. ## Budget Amendments [timestamp: 08:12] The council discussed and approved various budget amendments involving reallocations and fund transfers. Council Member Henson and Council Member Massadi were the key speakers on this agenda item. The amendments were approved by the council. ## New Business [timestamp: 00:15:48] During the New Business section of the meeting, Council Member Farmer and Council Member Henson participated in discussion of various items requiring council action. The agenda included authorizations and agreements that were presented for consideration. The specific details of individual items were not provided in the available meeting materials. The New Business items were approved by the council. --- ## Decisions - **Motion** — passed (0-0): approve the docket - **Motion** — passed (0-0): place on the docket, under first reading of Resolutions, a Resolution authorizing and directing the Mayor, on behalf of the Lexington-Fayette Urban County Government, to execute a three (3) year Intergovernmental Agreement with the United States Marshals Service, for the housing of federal detainees at the LFUCG Division of Community Corrections, at a cost not to exceed $52,500 (FY 2015) - **Motion** — passed (0-0): approve the January 20, 2015 summary - **Motion** — passed (0-0): approve budget amendments - **Motion** — passed (0-0): approve new business - **Motion** — passed (0-0): refer to the Environmental Quality & Public Works Committee, the issue of partnering with Fayette County Public Schools regarding "Safe Routes to School" - **Motion** — passed (0-0): enter into closed session pursuant to KRS 61.810(1)(c) for the purpose of discussing pending litigation - **Motion** — passed (0-0): return from closed session - **Motion** — passed (0-0): adjourn at 3:50pm --- ## Full transcript It's coming true, but those dreams move on Thank you. I'll call the meeting to order and first on our agenda is issues a public comment for issues on the agenda mr. Monday nobody signed up all right that allows us to move on to any rezoning motions or in a docket approval are there any any no zoning issues all right then is there a motion to approve summary All right. Wait a minute. We do need to approve the docket. Yeah, we need to approve the docket. That's what I'm talking about. It says summary of a work session. I don't think that's what we're talking about here. I move approval. Second. Motion to approve the docket by Council Member Henson, second by Council Member Lamb. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. Hearing none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. motion carries all right just a second you want to do that now okay council member massadi there's a walk on thank you mayor i move to place on the docket under first reading of resolutions a resolution authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the Lexington-Fayette Urban County Government to execute a three-year intergovernmental agreement with the United States Marshal Service for the housing of federal detainees at the LFUCG Division of Community Corrections at a cost not to exceed $52,500. So moved. Second. Motion by Council Member Sadi and second by Council Member Henson. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right, hearing none, then we can vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. All right, next is approval, is summary approval. Is there a motion to approve the summary? So moved. Motion by Vice Mayor Kay and second by Council Member Henson. Is there any discussion? All right, hearing none, then we can take a vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. No. Allows us to move on to budget amendments. Is there a motion to approve? Move approval. Second. Motion by Council Member Henson, second by Council Member Massadi. Is there any discussion on the motion? Council Member Lamb. Mayor, I was just going to ask a question. I know on budget entry 83813, it's on page 8, and it's talking about moving the money over for Fire Station 2. I just thought maybe for the new council members that we could kind of go when the estimated date for breaking ground for the new fire station might be, if that's appropriate. Thank you, Council Member Lamb. It looks like Chief Jackson's coming to the podium. Chief? Yes, ma'am. Thank you. In reference to the breaking ground, We're in the Phase B process right now. Chief Hoskins and Joyce and John Pashita are working towards the development of the process. We're looking, hopefully, to be breaking ground in June to be in the process. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. All right. Thank you, Chief. All right. Any further discussion? Council Member Maloney. Yes. I'd like to have a question on 837-88-89, the quarry inspection. Is there somebody here that can answer me? What's the question? Wait just a minute until it gets up. Okay. Excuse us, Mr. Maloney. All right. There we go. Is this a quarry inspection, the boundaries we check every year to make sure that they haven't gone over the boundaries? How does this work? This is a general inspection of the quarry, and we just contract that out. This is done. It's a yearly inspection. This is a yearly inspection that's done other quarries, and it's something that we contract out. And that's what they look at the boundaries to make sure that they haven't gone beyond that. Do they do both quarries or just the one down? I believe they do both quarries. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member. Thank you, Commissioner. Council Member Akers. Thank you, Mayor. I have a question on 83834 and 83836 for Commissioner O'Mara, please. Commissioner O'Mara, would you thank you? Bill, can you just tell us a little bit about this reallocation and the history behind it for those who are new and for the public? I'd be glad to. Thank you. This is an idea we had over the break when we closed on the 2015 bond, and we were looking at what other outstanding bond amounts there were. And so the 2010 bond, which is five years old now, still has a balance associated with the distillery district project. There's a requirement to spend 80% of a bond within three years, which we have met that criteria. That's not a problem. but the fact that this district project didn't really have an end date, that we felt that we were exposed to IRS penalties for failure to spend the money in a timely manner. And so the idea was to switch and reset the time clock on this project and to move the distillery project, $1,687,000, into the 2015 bond projects In order to make room for that, we would put an equal amount of the senior citizen center, which we know we're spending at a very rapid rate, to spend down these 2010 bond project funds. That would meet our requirements for good governance and management of the 2010 bonds, as well as reset the clock, and so that would give another period of time without a deadline to discuss what's the best use of these funds. So this is what's currently, we have a bond project with the $1,687,000 sitting in the 2010 bond, and we have a senior citizen center at $8 million in the 2015. And what we're proposing is to flip those two. We haven't changed the total amounts of spending. We haven't changed the projects. It's a matter of which stack of money that gets spent first and for which project. Thank you for that. And I also want to just thank you also for doing both transfers and reallocations at the same time instead of doing one first and coming back later for the second. This makes it very clean and neat and I think pretty understandable for everyone. I also know that the stakeholders in the distillery district are meeting Friday with myself and Commissioner Paulson and others, I believe, in the government to hopefully formulate a plan for the district moving forward. Is the timeline reset then at three years or thereabouts? Yes, we have three years to spend 80% of the new 2015 bond projects. So again, we're looking at the total, not just the one project, but at $1.6, almost $2 million, that that's a measurable sum. So we've reset the clock. We have three years to talk about how is the best and most efficient use of those dollars. And the deadline for even making this transfer or resetting the clock, as you said, is that, I mean, coming up March 1st, is that why it's on the docket now and waiting for a second reading and all of that? Is it March deadline? There really is not a deadline. We know that we have exposure here for when we're audited, so we felt that it was something to consider. I actually didn't intend this to be on the docket today without having conversations first, but a budget amendment was made, and it was included in the package that was presented to you. So there isn't really a deadline, but we know that we're bumping up to a deadline, and so sooner is better than later. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Akers. Council Member Brown. Thank you, Mayor. The entry 83533, Division of Parks and Recreation. All right. Can you ask us, okay, Commissioner Reed, if you'll come to the podium, please, sir. Thank you. It's the 83533, the $170,000. Yes, sir. I just want a little explanation there. It says to provide funds for parks fund balance projects for tennis and basketball courts and community center ceiling replacement and parks maintenance by decreasing funds for those projects in recreation. What's the? In November, during the fund balance discussion, we received roughly that amount of money for these projects from the council. The money was incorrectly put into a recreation program's accounts, and it needs to be in maintenance. This is simply a cleanup move of money from recreation over to maintenance. So it's not new tennis courts or new basketball courts? No, it's repair, updates, cleanup. No, it's nothing new. Thank you. yes sir thank you council member brown thank you commissioner reed all right allows us there's no further uh discussion that allows us to take a vote all in favor please say aye aye opposed no motion carries that allows us to move to new business is there a motion to approve and then discussion motion by councilmember farmer second by council member henson is there any discussion on motion discussion on the motion all right hearing none then we can take a vote all in favor please say aye opposed no motion carries there is no presentations today that allows us to move to council reports if you please sign on electronically and for council reports council members council member Gibbs. Thank you, Mayor. I'd just like to say there's a lot of wonderful stuff happening in Lexington, but much of it is my third district. And last week, I got considerable media attention. Last Tuesday, the New York Times ran a piece on the redevelopment of National Avenue. Visionary developer Greg Walker and the entrepreneurs over there should be proud. Niche.com, an organization that ranks schools, gave the top spot for elementary schools in Kentucky to Ashland Elementary. Sunday's Herald Leader scored a trifecta for the third district. There was an article by Beth Musgrave on another visionary project, Town Branch Commons. Rich Copley wrote about the exciting changes to the Outtown Arts Center. Control of the facility has gone from LexArts to Park and Rec, and under the leadership of Celeste Lewis, the unused facility is starting to boom. Tom Ebelin wrote a great column about National Avenue and the new Kroger. I think the urban design of the new Kroger is wonderful. I've made four visits there and I've never seen so many people smile when they shopped. The opening was not without glitches. Traffic and parking had some problems. Several inches of snow contributed to that. But our police department was there directing traffic and I think they did an excellent job. I'm confident the glitches will be worked out and I'm delighted to represent such a vital and evolving district. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Gibbs. Council Member Farmer. Thank you, Mayor. After we'd had our meeting last week, the notice came out about the parking authority and some of their recent charging for different things. And I think that the chair of the parking authority, Mr. Frazier, is here, and I asked him to come to the microphone just to kind of just have three or four minutes here, just to thumbnail what had happened and how you all responded and what the outcome was. Please, sir. Thank you, Pastor. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm James Frazier. I am the chair of the parking authority. We had a little issue that got a lot of attention the last few days, and let me try to explain it to you in the best terms I can. We write, there are 35 different types of citations that the parking authority can write, and that sounds like a lot, and they all deal with different issues, whether too close to the curb, yellow line, expired meters, overtime meters, all kinds of things. Anyway, back in 2008, between 2008 and 2012, there was a check the box on this little form we all used, and they checked the box expired meters, which one would think expired meters and overtime meters are the same thing. And quite frankly, I've looked at Gerald's ordinances, and they're quite confusing. All of them, hard to believe, I know Councilman Farmer, but really, one of the 35 we write, They're all 10-day expired. If you 10 days hadn't paid your fine, we're entitled to put a late fee on. And one of them is 30 days. So we wrote 80,000 citations during this period of time between 2008 and 2012. So we have 80,000 citations written. And of those 80,000 citations, 6,300 of them fall within a window of this type of citation that we levied a late fee on. that was from day 14 to day 30. So we're dealing with 6,300 people. And that equates, it's $15 a ticket, so it's roughly $95,000. When the board found out about this, when I found out about it as chair a couple weeks ago or maybe 10 days ago, we immediately called a board meeting, special meeting, looked at the issue, understood the problem, because quite frankly it's confusing at best, but we felt we needed to make rectification on our own. So we prepared and have already sent out to 6,300 people. We have addresses on, 97% of those people. It's self-addressed stamped envelope with the check your box, sign your name, send it back on our nickel, and we'll send you a check for $15 plus $3 to park in any of the garages that we operate for the government or anybody else. We couldn't figure out interest on $15, and quite frankly, it was too mind-numbing. So we just offered them a little voucher. That's how we dealt with it. I think we got out in front on it very quickly. once we were made aware of it. Now, fair question that's been asked to me, and I think you want to know, why did we not know about it, okay? And, you know, I think hindsight is perfect and a perfect world for all of us, but Mr. Means did not bring it to our attention. What Gary did do in his defense, once he saw the problem, it was brought to his attention in 2012. We fixed the problem, and we've not had a problem since then. We've been using the correct violation codes to deal with it over time, expired meters, and they fall within the 10-day late fee category. However, I think in his own mind, once he fixed the problem, he saw nothing else to inform the board. I think, honestly, he would do that differently today, but it's not like we've made some big bonanza windfall here, and the money is very readily available, and we've offered it back to those affected. Hopefully, we'll get a lot of folks back, but that kind of sums it up if you have more specific questions. No, I think it was just kind of the first time with this entity we've seen the situation play out like that, and I appreciate your explanation and the words about Mr. Means. I think I take from the conversation or your point that if you've read through and you think that there is a way to make our ordinance clearer, I think we should have a conversation about that because that's the interface between a lot of people and the government is they get a ticket in some capacity, and I think if we can make it clear and more concise, everyone would be better off. Well, I can see exactly why the staff looked at this ordinance and applied the way they did. But there are two conflicting statute ordinances here that you really can't tell which one applies to which. And we kind of inherited this, as you know. The police force kind of did it and didn't do it. And this was early on in the deal for us. So I can see why it happened, but it has been fixed. And I think the only real issue has been ever is why didn't we know about it sooner? And I think we've made the best of fixing that. So, you know, we are. Great respect for your all's work and the work that you do with that board. And I think if there's a follow-up here, we can make better for everyone. We will. That's all. A lot of help. Thank you, sir, very much. Thank you. Thank you all very much. Mr. Frazier. Thank you. And thank you, Jim, for your service. It's a lay board member. There are 80 boards and commissions in the city, and you serve on one, and you serve as chairman, and that's a lot of unpaid pro bono work. So thank you very much. Well, I think we've done a lot of good. But I personally am proud of the garage downtown and the work we've done with that and the light show at night. So I think the board, it's a very hands-on board. It's not just me. And we take great pride in it, and we're glad to do it, Mayor. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Councilmember. Councilmember Massadi. Thank you, Mayor. I was looking for Kevin Adkins, but I'm not sure if he's in the audience. I don't think he is. Is there somebody else? What's the question? Well, it's about the Bluegrass ad. We've been getting some correspondence, and I had asked him, I don't know if you recall, before we went on break, if he could just kind of give us an update on what was happening, because there's been a lot of, we've gotten correspondence. He is. Mr. Atkins. Looks like he is here. Come on down. Just in time. Good afternoon. I just want, how are you? Good. Good. But we had spoken just before we went on break about you had sent us a lot of information regarding the Bluegrass ad. We've gotten more correspondence from one of the board members who's just now resigned. And there's just been some issues that I'm not real clear about. And we had talked about maybe you coming to us and giving us the Cliff Notes version of kind of what was happening. I just wonder if that is in the process anytime soon. It is. Councilmember Ford and I have talked on a couple of occasions. We had tentatively scheduled it for his committee in the February meeting, but with the retirement of Commissioner Mills, there were some things that needed to be moved up to that docket, so we're going to discuss it at his March meeting. Will that be before the governor makes his decision on what to do? Yes. Will we have any influence or impact on that? The mayor has talked to the governor. I've talked to the staff. We've talked to the secretary's office, so we continue, and we've provided them some of the initial data that we have come up with to state our case. I myself have some concerns. Not concerns, probably just some things that need to be discussed a little further, and I just wonder, maybe some of the new council members do, too, just don't know all the background behind all of this. So just something I wanted to get kind of on the burner. Yeah, we're dealing with a case right now where six of the private sector board members have resigned within the last 36 hours. Is that right? We're now dealing with a board that is below the 51% federally mandated private sector membership. So you've got your plate full. But, yeah, whatever you can bring back to us, I would appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Sidi. Council Member Fuller. I just have one more question, too, Mayor. It's not for the commission, or unless it's on the same subject. Is it on the same subject? Pardon? It may be on the same subject. What's the? All right. After what happened yesterday, I mean, we're waiting to march to talk about this. To me, shouldn't we do it a little bit quicker? I mean, it sounds like to me we're in a crisis here. And I know the governor read some of their concerns and all that and what the workforce and what we're trying to do on that. It seems like to me it's a resolution. I think the last thing I want to do is be out of compliance, is what you're saying. We're probably with the 51 percent. And to me, it seems like this is a pretty serious issue. I don't know if March is going to wait that long, or do we need to keep up with what's going on here? Yeah, Council Member Maloney. What happens now is next week, Deputy Secretary Brindley will host three meetings across the state on the proposed regions that the cabinet is going to suggest be the new workforce regions. Those will either be out later this week, the first of next week, then we'll get a chance to see them. The public meeting that's in this part of the state is Wednesday in Frankfurt for public comment on what thoughts are, and the Commerce Lexington Board yesterday endorsed a more compacted region, and they're going to be over there speaking along those lines as well. That then goes to the Kentucky Workforce. After those public meetings, the input goes to the Kentucky Workforce Investment Board, and we have four members on that board from Lexington who will then make the final recommendations to the governor who then will make that announcement according to the timeline provided by the cabinet around the end of March. Can I ask another question about the workforce? When I was on the council, I voted not to take this money away. How did we get it in the first place? When Scottie Bass was here, why couldn't we not do the same thing that when Scottie and them did it and was a great program, which I supported all these years? How do we, can't we do the same thing? Those monies were under a different version of workforce training laws. and you were allowed to keep them for a period of time. If you left that arrangement, if you decided you didn't want the carve-out anymore, which was the agreement at some point that was reached with the Area Development District, you can't then turn the clock back in time. You have to, you know, that carve-out, if you will, is no longer available. Okay, I'll just give you a second. Thank you. All right. Thank you. And Council Member Ford, do you want to speak on this? Yes, sir. Okay. Council Member Sadi's time has expired, but if council, unless someone objects, we'll continue. Council Member Ford. Thank you, Mayor. And thank you, Council Member Sadi. Thank you, members of council. And Kevin, thank you for your hard work. For the newcomers of the council, this is an issue that we've been working on in a hands-on fashion for about the last two years. And it's very complex. So the questions that are being raised today by council members and those being raised in the public are valid. It's a very complex issue. And again, I thank Kevin for his leadership on guiding the council through this. But where we stand right now as a council is that we are petitioning Governor Beshear and his administration for Fayette County to have its own workforce area. And it's timely because there's a new federal law that's going to take effect in July. looking back not to delve into all the chaos and all the at times acrimony that has taken place between the Bluegrass Area Development District and this workforce board, I think where we stand is in a strong position to get some data to validate our position that for Lexington to have a stronger impact and oversight of this workforce is in the best interest of our residents and our business constituents. And I know that council members are going to have questions, but when we come to our committee meeting on March 3rd, as Kevin mentioned, the proposed workforce area map boundaries will be released. They won't be the final, but they will be the proposed. There will be further opportunity for folks to go to Frankfurt in the next week or so to provide input. But more importantly, we're going to have Billy Peevler from being at Work and Commerce Lexington to come and bring forth the information that we asked of her last fall, which is specific workforce data to Lexington. And, you know, I think that's where our position is. I think we're in a strong position. And I think we're looking forward to the data that will validate that position. But ultimately, it will be a decision by the Kentucky Workforce Investment Board and our governor, Governor Beshear. We hope that the folks over at the Bluegrass Ad and the Workforce Investment Board, it's unfortunate that we've had the controversy and the chaos surrounding the resignations of those private sector business representatives. As you just mentioned, Mayor, to Mr. Frazier, we have a lot of folks in our community that dedicate their time, and these are folks who've dedicated their time and lent their expertise to an area that we need their help. So that's kind of where we are. We're not in a wait mode, but we have to let the process play out, and in the end we hope the governor's office will see it our way. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Councilman Ford. I'm going to turn the chair over to Vice Mayor. I've got to escape to a meeting. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Lamb. Yes, Vice Mayor. Okay, I have a question for someone in the Division of Fire regarding dumpsters and outside trash fires. Chief is going to come forward again. Thank you. No problem. Thank you, Chief Jackson. Yes, ma'am. We've had a pattern over the last couple of weeks where we've had like 10 different dumpster fires and outdoor fires on Malibu and Surfside. And I was just wondering, we tried to connect with you guys to check on it and see if there's any kind of investigation or maybe what causes. Or can you enlighten me a little bit, please? Yes, ma'am. We discussed that this morning. We've identified it as an issue in that area. Battalion Chief Mark Blankenship, our lead investigator, our arson investigator, has already identified it, and we are each call that is made in that area, in that particular area, gets response from an investigator, and if an investigator is not available, then we've asked to have support from the police department to identify potential suspects, and we have some identified. So Chief Blankenship has already identified it. We're working on it, and we're continuing to monitor. All right. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Thanks. Thank you. I see no other council members signed up for council comments. That moves us to Mayor's report. There is no report this meeting. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Council Member Ford. Sorry, Vice Mayor. Council members allow me to resort back to my council report. Earlier I circulated a memo to you guys to refer an item to the Environmental Quality and Public Works Committee. Our Division of Police and hopefully our traffic engineers will be working in close tandem with our public school officials on efforts to allow safer routes to school. The memo explains itself and so I'll bring forth my motion. I move to place in the Environmental Quality and Public Works Committee the issue of partnering with Fayette County Public Schools regarding safe routes to schools. So moved. Second. I have a motion and a second. Anybody wish to speak to the motion? Seeing none, all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That motion carries. Thank you. Council Member Massadi. Thank you, Vice Mayor. And maybe you can answer this, Vice Mayor. We had a pretty lengthy discussion last week on stop signs. If you remember, Council Member Akers had brought that to the floor. I'm just wondering where we are on this and how do we proceed. Did we ever decide anything definitively when we deal with stop signs or speed reductions? What's the process? Did we put it in committee? Yes. Actually, I don't recall if we put it into committee or not. I don't either. That's why I was asking. It may also be appropriate for the quarterly cow if we want to talk about procedure. So we're going to leave it until then? Add it to that agenda, which will be another week. Okay. Is that okay? Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Council Member Evans? Yes, I just wanted to, since we went back to Councilmember Ford's memo, to thank him for the actual memo instead of the, you know, we get a little lax in what we think and what we want to bring to the meeting. So I appreciate the formality, and we've been talking about process and how we want procedures in place. So I just wanted to say on record thank you for the official memo and the layout and the history behind what your proposal was. And I just wanted to thank you for that and put it on record and hope we can move to that formality and get back into that process because it seems to be an issue for everyone. And I'm all about process. I come from government. So, yeah, I'm happy to have paper and to make sure that we all know what's going on. We're all on the same page. So I would just put that on record to thank him for that official process. Thank you. Now I don't see anybody else seeking recognition. The mayor's report, there is no mayor's report. Public comment for issues is not on the agenda. There are no public comments. I need to, I'm sorry, they are, excuse me, out of order. In fact, I need to ask Council Member Sennett if he would accept the chair for a moment because I have a motion. Thank you. And I'd like to seek recognition. I move that we go into closed session pursuant to KRS 61.8101C for the purpose of discussing pending litigation. so move is there who is the seconder on that councilmore Evans was seconder okay all in favor say aye aye any opposed all right we're in closed session Thank you. The End ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ Thank you. ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ We've got a quorum. I'll entertain a motion to come out of closed session. We need a motion to come out of closed session. I have a motion to second come out of closed session. Any discussion? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Okay, that motion passes. Now a motion to adjourn. Move to adjourn. Second. All in favor say aye. Aye. We're adjourned. I just want to dance with you. That's what they invented dancing for And I just want to dance with you