# Board of Architectural Review Meeting - March 11, 2015 > Auto-transcribed civic record · March 11, 2015 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/3605 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/3605?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2015-03-11 - **Last revised**: July 15, 2026 - **Length**: 2,305 words > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** Audio from the official Granicus video was auto-transcribed with OpenAI's open-source Whisper large-v3-turbo model, run locally by The Lexington Times. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude. Verbatim wording may contain errors. See [methodology](https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/about/methodology) or [report a correction](mailto:editor@lexingtonky.news). --- ## Meeting Overview The Board of Architectural Review met on March 11, 2015. During the meeting, the board addressed 11 agenda items, took 6 motions and votes, and heard 1 public comment. Eight applications were approved, including requests to replace trees at 324 South Mill Street, remove a diseased tree at 316 West High Street, remove walls at 763 Caden Lane, change and install new windows at 731 West Main Street, install grassy pavers in a driveway at 601 Russell Avenue, expand a rear porch at 418 West Third Street, and install a pool at 341 Madison Place. The board also approved the minutes from the February 25, 2015 meeting. One item—a request to change rear openings at 165 Woodland Avenue—was postponed. One application to install red rock pebbles in a driveway at 145 West Bell Court was withdrawn. An informational item regarding the installation of a retaining wall and change in column arrangement at 148 Woodland Avenue was also presented. ## Attendance The following individuals were present at the meeting on March 11, 2015: * Greg Fitzsimons * Tom Cheek * Amelia * Mr. Chair * Mrs. Tate * Mr. Grant No members were recorded as absent or late. ## Votes and Decisions The meeting included six votes, all conducted by voice vote and all passed or approved as indicated. **Minutes Approval** [timestamp: 00:17:52] The minutes from the February 25, 2015 meeting were accepted. **Certificate of Appropriateness for 731 West Main Street** [timestamp: 00:04:52] The motion to approve a Certificate of Appropriateness to change, relocate, and install new windows passed. The approval includes conditions that final window specifications must be reviewed by staff prior to purchase, and all changes must be reviewed by other LFUCG divisions and returned to staff for approval prior to the start of work. **Certificate of Appropriateness for 601 Russell Avenue** [timestamp: 00:06:58] The motion to approve a Certificate of Appropriateness to install grassy pavers in the driveway passed with no conditions. **Certificate of Appropriateness for 418 West Third Street** [timestamp: 00:09:42] The motion to approve a Certificate of Appropriateness to expand the rear porch passed. Multiple conditions were imposed, including retention of the original rear porch core and architectural elements, lattice squares of 1 to 1.5 inches, submission of final details for streamlined brackets and spandrels to staff, roof meeting the brick wall at current elevation, submission of metal roofing details to staff, and review by other LFUCG divisions with staff approval prior to work commencement. **Certificate of Appropriateness for 341 Madison Place** [timestamp: 00:15:09] The motion to approve a Certificate of Appropriateness to install a pool passed. Conditions include archaeologist monitoring of excavation, submission of final pool mechanical system details to staff, submission of final fence details to staff, and review by other LFUCG divisions with staff approval prior to work start. **Postponement of 165 Woodland Avenue** [timestamp: 00:15:43] The motion to postpone the application for 165 Woodland Avenue until March 25, 2015 passed. ## Public Comment [timestamp: 00:13:00] A neighbor addressed the council regarding the proposed pool at 341 Madison Place. The speaker expressed concern about the design and type of pool planned for the location. Specifically, the neighbor opposed the installation of a full-sized pool, stating a preference for alternative designs such as a wading pool or river-type pool. The speaker characterized a full-sized pool as "tacky" and voiced opposition to moving forward with that particular design option. ## Contested Items **341 Madison Place Pool** A neighbor raised objections to a proposed pool at 341 Madison Place. The opposition centered on two main concerns: the aesthetic quality of the project and the type of pool being planned. The neighbor characterized the pool as "tacky" and expressed a preference for alternative designs. Specifically, they objected to the plan for a full-sized pool, arguing instead for a wading pool or river-type pool as more appropriate for the location. No outcome regarding this dispute was documented in the available meeting materials. ## 324 South Mill Street: Replace trees Staff approved the replacement of trees at 324 South Mill Street in the South Hill Historic District [timestamp: 00:03:05]. This item required staff approval only, and no board discussion or vote was necessary. The proposal was approved as presented. ## 316 West High Street: Remove diseased tree [timestamp: 00:03:05] Staff approved the removal of a diseased tree at 316 West High Street. This agenda item required no board discussion or vote, as it was handled through staff approval. **Outcome:** Approved ## 763 Caden Lane: Remove walls [timestamp: 00:03:05] Staff approved the removal of walls at 763 Caden Lane, located in the Cadentown Historic District. This agenda item required staff approval only, and no board discussion or vote was necessary for the decision. **Outcome:** Approved ## Review of Minutes February 25, 2015 [timestamp: 00:16:46] The board reviewed the minutes from the February 25, 2015 meeting. Mr. Grant led this agenda item. The minutes were accepted by the board without any amendments required. **Outcome:** The minutes were approved. ## 731 West Main Street: Change/relocate/install new windows [timestamp: 00:03:40] An application for a certificate of appropriateness to change, relocate, and install new windows at 731 West Main Street was presented to the board. **Key Speakers** Mr. Grant and Mrs. Tate participated in the discussion of this agenda item. **Outcome** The application was approved with conditions. The approval was contingent upon final window specifications and coordination with other LFUCG (Lexington-Fayette Urban County Government) divisions to ensure the work meets all applicable requirements and standards. ## 601 Russell Avenue: Install grassy pavers in driveway [timestamp: 00:06:28] **Application Type:** Certificate of Appropriateness **Outcome:** Approved without conditions The application to install grassy pavers in the driveway at 601 Russell Avenue was presented for review. Mr. Grant addressed the agenda item on behalf of the applicant. The proposal was approved based on staff recommendation, with no conditions imposed on the approval. ## 418 West Third Street: Expand the rear porch [timestamp: 00:08:07] The board considered an application for a certificate of appropriateness to expand the rear porch at 418 West Third Street. Greg Fitzsimons and Mr. Grant were the key speakers on this agenda item. The application was approved with conditions. The approval required the applicant to retain original architectural elements as part of the expansion work. Additionally, the board specified requirements regarding lattice size for the project. The applicant was directed to submit final details for approval before proceeding with construction. ## 341 Madison Place: Install pool [timestamp: 00:10:13] The board considered a certificate of appropriateness application to install a pool at 341 Madison Place. **Outcome** The application was approved with conditions. **Conditions of Approval** The approval included the following requirements: - Archaeological monitoring must be conducted - Mechanical and fencing details must be submitted for review - Interdivisional review must be completed **Key Participants** The discussion involved Tom Cheek, Amelia, and Mr. Grant. ## 165 Woodland Avenue: Change rear openings **Item Type:** Certificate of Appropriateness **Outcome:** Postponed The application for a certificate of appropriateness regarding changes to rear openings at 165 Woodland Avenue was postponed at the request of the applicant. [timestamp: 00:15:43] Mr. Grant was the key speaker on this agenda item. The application was scheduled to be reconsidered on March 25, 2015. ## 145 West Bell Court: Install red rock pebbles in driveway [timestamp: 00:16:16] This agenda item concerned a certificate of appropriateness application for installing red rock pebbles in the driveway at 145 West Bell Court. The application was withdrawn by the applicant and was not considered further by the body. ## 148 Woodland Avenue: Install retaining wall and change column arrangement [timestamp: 00:18:28] A staff presentation was provided on the conceptual review for 148 Woodland Avenue regarding the installation of a retaining wall and changes to the column arrangement. **Presentation** Mr. Grant presented the conceptual review for this project. **Outcome** This agenda item was informational in nature. No vote or decision was recorded in the meeting transcript. --- ## Decisions - **Motion** — passed: Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 731 West Main Street to change/relocate/install new windows - **Motion** — passed: Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 601 Russell Avenue to install grassy pavers in driveway - **Motion** — passed: Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 418 West Third Street to expand rear porch - **Motion** — passed: Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 341 Madison Place to install pool - **Motion** — postponed: Postponement of 165 Woodland Avenue application until March 25, 2015 - **Motion** — passed: Acceptance of minutes from February 25, 2015 meeting --- ## Full transcript Music Thank you. Thank you. Good evening. I'd like to welcome you to the March 11th meeting of the Board of Architecture Review. We appreciate those of you in attendance today. The Board was established by zoning ordinance in 1958, and our first historic district was Gratz Park. We now have a total of 15 historic districts. The board, which is appointed by the mayor and confirmed by the Urban County Council, is part of the Division of Historic Preservation. The Historic Preservation Office maintains a full-time staff to assist you with your projects. The board encourages and recommends that applicants use them as a resource. The Historic Preservation Office is located at 101 East Vine Street, room 220. It is our procedure to consider applications in the order in which they are listed on our agenda. In each case, we'll have a presentation by the staff, and we'll hear any additional comments from the applicant. The board will then ask questions or make comments regarding the application, and then hear comments from any other interested parties. The chair will then ask the board members to enter a motion. If you wish to address the board, please come to the microphone, state your name and address for the public record. We also ask that you write your name on the sign-in sheet by the door so that the information can be recorded correctly. I'd like to note the following staff approvals before we begin our review of applications. there are certain items that the staff can approve, eliminating necessity for all applications to appear before the board. There are a total of three approved applications noted on today's agenda. In the South Hill Historic District at 324 South Mill Street, replace trees. At 316 West High Street, remove diseased trees. And in the Cadentown Historic District at 763 Cadent Lane, remove walls. We shall now proceed with the review of applications for certificates of appropriateness. The first case on the agenda this evening is at 731 West Main Street. That application is to change and relocate and install new windows. Is that applicant here this evening? The applicant is not present but has received a copy of her staff report. Okay. Well, the staff recommendation is for approval pending. final details come back to staff for review. Is there, I don't think there's any reason for us to wait for the applicant unless there are questions or comments for the applicant at this time. That being the case, I would entertain a motion. Mr. Chair, Well, before I get that far, is there anybody in the audience to speak to this case this evening? All right. Seeing no motion out there and hearing no further comment up here. Now I would entertain a motion, please. Mr. Chairman, relative to case 122070733-J, I move that we approve this application based based on the staff recommendations that the final window specifications come back to the staff prior to purchase and once reviewed by other LFUCG divisions, all changes come back to staff for review and approval prior to the start of work. Thank you. Is there a second to the motion? Second. Any further discussion of the motion? Mrs. Tate, could you please turn your mic on, please? Thank you. Okay. Was the motion captured or do we need to go through that again? You can't. Okay. Very well. Any other discussion of the motion? So just to catch us back up, Ms. Tate made the motion for approval based on staff recommendation. for the approval of the opening changes with the following conditions. One final window specifications come back to staff prior to purchase. And also, once reviewed by any other LFUCG divisions, all changes come back to staff for review and approval prior to the start of any work. And then that was seconded by Mr. Grant. And then there was no further comment. So all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. All those opposed. And the motion passes with those recommendations. Next case on the agenda this evening is at 601 Russell Avenue. Install grassy pavers in the driveway. Is that applicant here this evening? The applicant has received a copy of their staff report and is emailed back. They are agreeable with the findings. They are not able to attend. Thank you. Once again, the staff's recommendation was in complete agreement with the application, and they've made a recommendation for approval submitted with no other recommendations. Any comments on that from this board? Anybody in the audience to speak to this case this evening? That being the case, I would certainly entertain a motion at this time. Great. No. Mr. Chairman. I'm having trouble finding it. relative to case number 165-20601-J at 202 Bell Place slash 601 Russell Avenue. I move that we accept this application and that it receives our approval without any further action. by the staff thank you very much is there a second to the motion second any further discussion of the motion all those in favor please say aye aye all those opposed and the motion passes the next case on the agenda this evening is at 418 west third street that application is to expand the rear porch good to see you this evening have you had a chance to review the staff's findings and recommendations at this time? Yes, Greg Fitzsimons, 112 West 3rd Street. We've reviewed the staff recommendations and we're in agreement with them. Okay, well just to make sure we're all on the same page, I'm going to run through those recommendations real quick. Staff recommends approvals submitted with the conditions that one, the original rear porch core and the architectural elements such as spandrels, brackets and columns be retained in lieu of demolition. Number two, the squares in the lattice be an inch to an inch and a half. And final details of the streamlined brackets and or spandrels come back to staff. Forch roof meets the brick exterior wall at the elevation of the current porch roof. And that metal roofing and details are submitted to staff for approval. And finally, once reviewed by any other LFU CG divisions, all changes come back to staff for review and approval prior to the start of any work. And you're agreeable to all of those? Yes, sir. Well, are there any comments from the board at this time? Anything to add? Questions? Mm-hmm. Does anybody in the audience here speak to this case this evening? Well, that being the case, I would certainly entertain a motion at this time. Mr. Chair, relative to case number 18800418-F at 418 West 3rd Street, I move to approve the application for a certificate of appropriateness with the conditions as previously read by yourself. Thank you. Is there a second to the motion? A second. Thank you. Any further discussion of the motion? Hearing none, all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. All those opposed? the motion passes with those recommendations. Thank you. With your project. The next case on the agenda this evening is at 341 Madison Place. That application is to install a pool. I see. Tom Cheek. I live at 722 West High. Good to see you this evening. have you had a chance to review the staff's findings and recommendations at this time? Yes. And are you in agreement with those? Yes. Just to make sure we're on the same page, I'm going to go through them if you don't mind. Staff does recommend approval of the pool as proposed in front of the garage in lieu of the walled garden area with the conditions that, one, the excavation for the pool be monitored by archaeologists during construction of the pool, Two final details of pool mechanical system be submitted to staff. Three final details of the fence be submitted to staff. And four, once reviewed by other LFUCG divisions, all changes come back to staff for review and approval prior to the start of any work. And you're on board with all of that? Do you have something to add there, Amelia? I would like to add, just if you know that there is a new plan at your desk. in this note to new parking area. And because that area has not been advertised by at this time, that part of the application will have to come back. I'm okay with that. So a separate application will come back at a later time? For the paving. For the paving, depending on your outcome. Sure. I understand. And just Amelia, I'm sorry I didn't ask you while you were standing up here The staff recommendation for the final detail of the pool mechanical system Is that just dealing with knowing how big it is and how it's going to be covered up in the note that talks about the enclosure? That actually has been answered by this particular plan before it was not there because if you notice the plan that you received earlier this week did not have the details of the area around in front of the garage. Okay. Well, I understand. Thank you for that clarification. I have a question. Shoot. What is the garage going to be used for now that you can't get a car into it? Well, I mean, if you look at the shape, I'm not sure you can get a car in it anyway. But I have seen a car in there. It's actually going to be a pool house. Oh, good. Okay, I was just curious. I should also note that we've received a letter from a neighbor just expressing concern that if this were not a wading pool, or excuse me, if this were not a, how do they say it, if it is not a wading or a river-type pool, that they weren't in favor of the pool. So for the record, that concern has been noted and received by us that they aren't a fan of a full-sweigh pool. I believe they used the word tacky. I don't agree, but that's what we received. Any other comments or questions from the board at this time for the applicant? Anyone in the audience this evening speak to this case? Seeing no motion. Well, I just want to clarify it. There are two different pool locations. In our last hearing, it was behind the house. In this hearing, the application still mentions two locations, but presumably the location behind the house has been abandoned as an option, and we're strictly speaking about the location by the garage. Is that right? That is correct. Okay. My preference really was to put it behind the wall, thinking that that would be the least obtrusive, but that wasn't the staff's opinion. And once I started working on it at the garage, I'm kind of in agreement. We were able to sort of, you know, not make any more hardscape, not putting it at the pool, actually eliminating some asphalt. So, you know, it may end up being a better location after all. Any other comments or questions for the applicant at this time? Well, hearing none, I would entertain a motion. Mr. Chair, relative to case number 12200341-S at 341 Madison Place, moved to approve the application for certificate of appropriateness pursuant to the staff's recommended conditions number one the excavation for the pool will be monitored by an archaeologist during construction of the pool number two final details of pool mechanical system to be submitted to the staff number three final details of the fence to be submitted to the staff and finally once reviewed by any other LFUCG division. All changes come back to staff for review and approval prior to the start of any work. Thank you very much. Is there a second to the motion? I second. Any further discussion of the motion? Hearing none, all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. All those opposed? And the motion passes with those conditions. Thank you. Thank you. The next case on the agenda is at 165 Woodland Avenue. That applicant has requested a postponement until March 25th. Can I get a motion to that effect, please? I move that we postpone 165 Woodland Avenue until March 25th. Thank you. Thank you very much. Is there a second to the motion? Second. Very well. Any further discussion of the motion? Hearing none, all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. All those opposed. and the motion to postpone passes. The staff, are we still within the deadline for action by the 25th or do we need to do some paperwork for that? Yes. We're good? He has until April. Great. The next case in the agenda at 145 West Bell Court, install Red Rock Pebbles in driveway. That's been withdrawn by the applicant. And before we move on to our conceptual review, minutes were distributed to the board for their review from the February 25th meeting. Let's go ahead and get those out of the way. Does anybody have any comments or things to add or amend? I didn't find anything. this is related to the last uh to the uh woodland avenue case oh never mind i answered my own question any comments no no comments no comments well i don't have any either but i wasn't there I would entertain a motion to accept the minutes as they've been prepared. So moved. Second to that motion. Second. All those in favor of accepting the minutes as they're written, please say aye. Aye. Aye. That's two ayes, and then I'm not going to vote because I wasn't there. The final item of business this evening is conceptual review for 148 Woodland Avenue. We'll have a staff presentation. The only