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All right, for those in the audience, the council is now going into closed session. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm sorry. Thank you. The End Thank you. Mm. Thank you. I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. ¶¶ ¶¶ Thank you. Thank you. ¶¶ Thank you. ORCHESTRA PLAYS ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ The End ¶¶ Thank you. Thank you. All right. Sorry. Okay. All right. Thank you all for allowing us some time for a closed session, and we will now reconvene. And I'd like to begin with a comment. Today, one of the chairs around this council table is empty. We have placed flowers on Ed Lane's desk in his honor. And memorial ribbons are being worn today by council members and many staff members in our government. Ed's death on August 2nd took many of us by surprise and saddened all of us. Ed was highly successful in his own business. His passion and spirit and love for his city knew no limits or boundaries. He was an outstanding public servant. Ed brought his business experience and expertise to City Hall to fight for Lexington's businessmen and women. And as everyone here knows, he also was a strong advocate for his council district and the Bluegrass. Even when his point of view may have been different from others, he was always a gentleman. Our city will miss Ed's leadership and experience, and we will all miss Ed's friendship. We send our deepest sympathies to Ed's daughters, Susan Brett Lane and Catherine Meredith Lane, and we thank Mark Green, Editorial Director of the Lane Report, the business magazine that Ed founded, for joining us today. I know that several council members, perhaps all council members, would like to speak now, and I will give anyone that opportunity. Council Member Stenet? Yes, sir. Is that all right? Okay. I, too, want to express our condolences to Mr. Lane's family, his daughters, Brett and Meredith. I don't know if they're here yet, but, you know, if you listen to them and talk about Ed's legacy, you know that he was a man of infectious optimism. Everything was peachy and green and just happy every day. And the last two years of his life, he lived that way and lived to the fullest. And, you know, he did it his way. And going back to 2003 when he first ran for council, and I remember conversations he would tell me, people don't think I can win. People just don't think, but I'm going to win. And he had that the whole time. And he won. He beat a very formidable opponent and won easily and got on this council and put his heart and soul into loving the rural landscape, loving the neighborhoods that are actually in the 12th district. And everyone up here has disagreed with him. The public has disagreed with him, but he never won. He said a crossword. He always acted like a gentleman. And I think we all can learn from that as we go forward because, you know, he would want us to do that. And it's hard in politics to find someone like that, find someone who's always optimistic and always a gentleman. and usually they don't go into politics. But Ed did that, and he'll be sorely missed, and his thoughts and ideas will always be with us, and I appreciate the opportunity. Stacey Maynard, thank you for organizing today and the ribbons. We appreciate that on behalf of Ed's family, and the public will sorely enlist him, and so will the council. I know most of my colleagues feel the same way. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Stenet. My monitor is not working, so if anyone wishes, if you just hold your hand. Council Member Henson. Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to share my thoughts about Ed and having served with him for the seven and a half years I've been on the council and being on the opposite side of the fence from Ed many times. But we always knew. I mean, as time went on, we knew where Ed stood, and he was very consistent. I think that it wasn't really until I began sitting right next to him that I realized what a really funny sense of humor he has. It was probably a dry sense of humor, but I just loved that about him. It was a very, very sad day when I heard that he had passed because he went or seemed to have gone right up to the last minute just working just as hard. as he always has. So I appreciate everything he did for his district, for this city, and he will definitely be missed. So thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Henson. Council Member Maloney. I do want to follow up. I got to work with Ed in a different way when I was working with the administration, and there were a couple things that came up to show how much Ed really cared about this community. And one was the Valley View Ferry. If it wasn't for Ed, we would have shut that Valley View Ferry down, and that's one of the oldest, I believe, business in Kentucky, and Ed really had a passion to make sure that stayed open. And also, when we had the budget shortfall, we were going through some tough times, and Ed came to me, and we met with a couple people at the Ag Research Center, and we were able to sell that and bring some money in to balance the budget. And Ed really knew how to find ways to make money, and with his, in the retail business, real estate business, he understood how we could make a profit out of that. And I do commend his family. He will be missed. And what Council Member Stennis said, he never had a hard word for anybody, and we will always miss Ed. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Maloney. Anyone else? All right. Well, I would like to ask that all of us today in the council chambers and council members, let's stand for a moment of silence in honor of our colleague, Ed Lane. All right. Thank you all. That allows us to move to, this allows us to move to, first on our agenda is public comment for issues on the agenda. Mr. Mundy, has anyone signed up for issues on the agenda? All right. That allows us to move to item number two, which is the docket approval. Is there a motion to approve? Move approval. Motion by Council Member Henson. Second by Council Member Scotchfield. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. If not, then we can vote. All in favor, please. Whoa, whoa. I'm sorry. I missed. Council Member Farmer. I have a walk-on, Mayor. All right, sir. I move to place on the docket for the August 13th council meeting a resolution authorizing the approval of Kelly Nursery LLC as a sole source provider of plant material for the Breeders' Cup beautification projects on Newtown Pike at Main Street, on Newtown Pike at I-75, and on Oliver Lewis Way. So moved. Motion by Council Member Farmer and second by Council Member Henson. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. If not, then we can vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Now we can move back to the original motion and vote on it. All in favor of the motion to approve the docket, please indicate by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, no. All right. The motion carries. That allows us to move on to approval of the summary. Is there a motion to approve? Approval. Second. Motion by Council Member Farmer and second by Council Member Masati. Is there any discussion? All right. If not, then we can vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. All right. Next is budget amendments. is there a motion to approve motion by councilmember farmer second by councilmember massadi is there any discussion councilmember farmer thank you mayor just wanted to highlight two of the journal entries um one at the bottom of page four which is number 88 260. this says funds to provide to provide funds for keyplex and beautiful by recognizing donations this these are these are are funds that are coming into us in this instance from from Lowe's and from Don Jacobs and all that will be money that will be used on the corridors for beautification for the Breeders' Cup. Top of the next page on page 5 at 88.541 and this this shows that Central Bank is also stepping up to the tune of $12,500 so we have we had some really great outreach to the business community to step in. They have been they have been kind I think others will come forward but I wanted to highlight those on behalf of all the hard work that's going on on our corridors. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Farmer. Council Member Brown. Fred Brown. Thank you, Mayor. Just a question on the budget amendments. Somebody from the General Service District Fund, the $46,957, that's taking money out of the General Fund. Is that correct? I missed my revenue man, Bill. For my commissioner. No, in fact, that is putting money into the general fund. Okay, with the credit there, that's going to be an increase in the general fund, right? Yes. Okay. That's the right way to go. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Brown. Anyone else? All right. then we can we can vote all in favor of the motion please indicate by saying aye aye opposed no motion carries next on our agenda is continuing business and presentations and first i'll ask for a motion on the what about this no thank you sir new business and there's a lot all right all right is there a motion motion by councilmember farmer is a second second by councilmember acres is there any discussion yes councilmember maloney thank you mayor could you ask uh mr o'meara to please come up well mr o'meara is going to be challenged by that he's not here he's still on he's still on medical leave but Tyler is not here okay good shape Tyler is here I just I mean I just have a couple questions kind of a question that if y'all looked into it yet well F I remember I didn't support this when we took the money out and gave it to the sheriff to do our collections and all that and I know that she still does that and then I look at T, well, we're now going to be taking over the building system for the water, the sewer, and what else would that be in there? That's a very different system. Rusty, I can clarify that for you. Letter T, Council Member, is the lex serve building that we currently do through Cincinnati. We'll be bringing that in-house with this project. Okay. The reason why I'm asking is I like to save money. and Mr. Lane told me how to save money sometimes. But did we look into possibly with this computer software, possibly also doing, since we're already doing this, which is a bulk of a lot of taking the LexServe in, how come we don't try to bring back in-house what we did for the other one and try to do it all together and save us money? The sheriff's doing a great job. I have no problem with that. My deal is that we're here to save money, and if we could keep the money here and keep, I just assume that it would be easier for you guys, for everybody to know where everything is. Now, did anybody look into why we didn't try to do all of it back in-house? I have not since I've been here, so I'm not sure of the full answer on that one, but it's something I can check back with the commissioner on to see what he has to say about that. Well, I think it's a good idea if you did look at that, because we're buying the software with this kind of money, and it can do what the sheriff is already doing, I'd just assume just have it in-house and we save taxpayers a lot of money and we can be better track of the system for you all's budget and all that. So hopefully if you all can go back and look at that, I would appreciate that. Sure. Thank you. Council Member Maloney, I'll say that we are, there is added complication. The KRS drives the sheriff's collection of the Advermore taxes. So this was something we took on a while back, but with the new sheriff. They want to take this responsibility back into their shop. So it's not quite the same thing as looking at the revenues we're looking at bringing in through the new system. Okay. I bet you'd be sweating that. All right. Thank you, Mr. Maloney. Thank you, Mr. Scott. And thank you, Rusty. Council Member Massadi. Thank you, Mayor. Tyler, if you wouldn't mind just a quick follow-up on what Council Member Maloney was asking you. Sure. It was the cost that kind of got me, I guess it surprised me, the $2.5 million for the software. Is that software? That is the cost of the implementation, the actual software, the travel costs for the vendor, as well as the maintenance costs for the first year to get the product in so that we can do the billing, as well as the IVR system that will handle payments through online as well as phone payments, which a lot of people still do, surprisingly. I just thought it was a big number when I first saw it. I understand. I did, too, as well, until we went through the RFP process. And due to it being a billing system, billing systems are a lot more expensive than these. And when you actually look at the tax revenue system we put in on the tax side, it was a lot less than this because when you're doing billings, a lot more calculations and processes. Plus, with this, we're doing three billings, the sewer, water quality, and landfill. That all goes on an invoice. So while we may have an average of 115,000 customers, we could really bill potentially three times if everyone has each of the services, which we know they don't. But still, it goes a lot higher. More complicated than that. Yeah, it's just a more complicated system. More than I can explain on that, but I do know when it comes to billing, it's a lot more complicated actually creating an invoice and getting it out to the customer. Okay. Thank you for the response. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Sadi. Council Member Bledsoe. Thank you, Mayor. I have actually a follow-up to that point, which is I understand that the $2.5 million is upfront cost and that the reincurring cost is $923,000. That is the total cost over the next four years. We put it down. The average annual cost is about $230,000 for the maintenance fees. Okay. That was putting on there wrong onto the memo. That makes me feel a little better. Yeah, me as well. Okay. So then I'm just curious, you know, what's the return on the investment for the taxpayers? Is it going to be a lot cheaper? Yes, it will. We will save between about $500,000 to $600,000 a year, depending on how many headcount we have to handle on our side on customer service. The estimates that I did so far is about five people, two in my division, and three potential in LexCall who will handle our customer service. Obviously, we've got to get further into the project to determine the LexCall side of things because currently Cincinnati handles all of our customer service. So we've got a little bit more, but it's still about a half a million, just six hundred thousand dollars could go up come down a little bit fantastic there will be a savings I'm very excited about that people email me all the time going why am I still mailing Cincinnati so I like having a house and I like saving the money so that's the number one complaint that I get personally as well as why do we send our bills to Cincinnati thank you thank you mayor is it council member evans yes thank you mayor yes i have a motion on item i i believe it was brought to staff's attention that um itemized incorrect the cost for the unit price is actually the actual cost is not to exceed $200,000. And I believe So therefore I would move to correct the price on item I from $28,600 to a price not to exceed $200,000. So moved. All right. Motion by Council Member Evans and second by Council Member Henson. Is there any discussion on the motion? council member farmer council member fred brown council member farmer so then are those funds budgeted since it's much larger than it was before or who's oh gal's coming up to answer yeah that's uh yes they are it was there was a confusion um i think what was the 28 600 was adding up just simply the unit cost sheet but we're going to get multiple units of each item. So, but the funds are budgeted. But she has tendered the correct number, which is 200 and change. Is that what you're saying? Not to exceed 200,000. It's probably somewhere between 150 and 200, but we don't know the exact amount at this time. Very good. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you, mayor. Thank you, council member. Council member Fred Brown. Down. Yeah. Hold on just a second. Thank you, mayor. I would assume on the same item here, is that the actual cost of the equipment, the fixed asset? That's correct. What's played into that as far as our ongoing maintenance or individual? Do we have more personnel or what? I believe that the first year annual maintenance will be included in that $150,000 to $200,000, but then we will pay annual maintenance moving forward on each device purchased, which is about $600 per device. And just to give us a little bit of information there. I didn't read all the detail. Is this going to enhance our traffic congestion and, you know, move us forward on several key intersections and things of that nature? If you recall from the signal presentation that was presented at the Environmental Quality and Public Works Committee meeting, this is the travel time reader. So we've got the travel time readers on the east side of Lexington, and we're going to be expanding them onto the west side. So it helps us in a number of ways, but basically provides us with data to evaluate signal timing changes and impacts, various impacts to the roadway system. Yeah, you had mentioned that in our discussion about how that would enhance the traffic flow. Are you going to be changing that at the headquarters then as far as using this data and changing your signals periodically all during the day? It would be on a periodic basis after we review the data. The vendor actually hosts the data remotely, so they host it on a web-based interface. So just one final thought on that. Is this a new innovation? Is this some of the other larger cities doing it or cities our size? Are they doing this to enhance traffic flow? Yes. I don't know the breadth of the vendor's implementations, but I know Atlanta is using it and other large cities are using it as well. So you think it's a good investment for this city? Okay, thank you. Thank you, Council Member Brown. Council Member Henson. Oh, wait a minute. Oh, all righty. You got another question. Go ahead. Yeah, I think I was following up on that particular item that we were talking about. Now I've got another question. Oh, that's right. There we go. You're back up. There we go. All right, sir. A. We still have to vote on the amendment. Oh, that's right. Okay. We've got to vote on the amendment. Thank you, Council Member Evans. Is there any further discussion? All right. If not, we can vote. All in favor, please indicate by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. All right. Now, thank you. Council Member Brown. Thank you, Mayor. A, B, and C. Authorization to execute change orders. Who's from Mitchell Construction Management? It's more of curiosity than anything. You bring a change order in there for all three items. It's the same construction group, and there's three items there. And obviously, they're different construction projects. The same project, our bathrooms at Station 1. And that was basically the procedure that we were advised to follow. And we tried to do them all prior at one, but we had to split them up. Is this going to conclude all the costs? It's all done. It's all budgeted. It's all done. They're just asking for some money, like $200 they put in soap dishes that they didn't have on their original specs. Yes. I thought that was a little Mickey Mouse. But anyway, all this has been completed. It's all completed. This will solve that. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Chief. Thank you, Council Member Brown. Council Member Henson. Thank you, Mayor. I have a question about Item D. All right, Council Member D. That would be Director Stack. Is Robert here? Yes, he is here. Director Stack and Commissioner Bastin, both. Got reinforcement today. Robert. Thank you, sir. I was just curious about the maintenance fee. The total cost, I guess the implementation of this is $1,542,083. but then there's an annual maintenance due. So will that occur in 2016? No, ma'am. That maintenance will come due in FY17 and in the memo that's attached to this item we outline how much that maintenance will be. One of it is mandatory maintenance and one's optional if we elect to. And would that be an ongoing cost annually? It would be. it would add to our existing maintenance expenses for this system. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. And then I have a quick question on item J for Commissioner Ford. Is this the summer youth program? No, Council Member Henson. This is slightly different. This is our program to help young folks between ages 16 and 24 who have dropped out of school or are in risk of dropping out of school. So who operates this? This is operated by our Division of Youth Services, Maddie Morton, and her staff in the Youth Development Center. And this is a renewal of the grant that we originally received, I believe, in 2012. Okay. So it's an ongoing something we've been doing. Yes, ma'am. Something we've been doing, but something we hope to expand and improve upon, of course. Okay. Thank you. I might meet with you so I can learn more about that. Yes, ma'am. We're welcome. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner Ford, and thank you, Council Member Henson. And then I think that's it, Mayor. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Council Member Stendon. Thank you, Mayor. Going back to item T for Rusty, he's still here. Have we explored the opposite of what Councilman Maloney asked instead of bringing in-house what the property tax bill collections, letting the sheriff collect our LexServe bill when they collect the property taxes? No, we did not do that. I don't believe that was ever a thought as well when we went with Cincinnati, so I don't think they have the ability to do that. We had very limited, my understanding, resources when we tried to go with LexServe two years ago. I just didn't know if the cost would be even cheaper, but you just said it was only a couple hundred thousand a year now to collect. Yes. So I doubt they could do it. What do we pay her for, the property tax? I'm not sure. Four percent? Yeah, I'm not sure the dollar amount right off on that one. Okay, just seeing if we ever looked at that. And then on item, not you, but on item R, on the Fright Night, they're not staying open until November 30th, are they? The contract goes through November 30th. They're just curious about the dating, the timing of that. Why so late? Why not just cut off? They need time to take their equipment out. Okay, just making sure of the dates. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Senate. Council Member Akers. Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to talk to Commissioner Ford for a second. First, I want to commend you, Commissioner. I see your name on lots of items on the agenda this week and lots of positives for the different neighborhood community centers and lots of donations and lots of good work happening. So I wanted to compliment you for that and then ask for a little bit more information about item M, the yoga teacher training program, or the intern, I guess, here at the Urban County Government. Yes, this is part of our Department of Family Services. I can provide more information for you. Is this new or is this a continuing program? I believe it's a continuing program, but I can confirm. Okay, that's just interesting. So I'd like to learn a little bit more about that. Thank you. Thank you. And then for Commissioner Reed or Director Conrad, a follow-up on item R. Is this your first time on the... It is. Okay, so would you mind to introduce yourself? Yes. Monica Conrad, Director of Lexington Parks and Recreation. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome. Yay! I'll try to go easy on you. Okay. So this is also about the Fright Nights. Is this the first time that the city has taken over this production, or have we always done this? We have done this for a number of years. I don't know the date of inception, but I know we have done it for a number of years. Okay, it's the same one that has always happened out of Jacobson. Yes. Okay. Well, I would just like to, and this is for going forward for all parks events, I guess, or large events, to also remember that there's a park in the west end of Lexington that is very large and can also host large events. Fantastic. Thank you. I will make sure that. That would be Master Sensation Park. Yes, ma'am. Free Friday flicks or fright nights or any other event you're thinking of having. Thank you. We'll speak with them. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Akers. All right. It looks like that's all who've signed on for comments on discussion of new business. So we can take a vote. All in favor of the motion, please indicate by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. All right. That allows us to move to continuing business and presentations. And first is I'll take a motion on the NDFs. Motion by Council Member Scutchfield. Is there a second? Second by Council Member Evans. Second by Council Member Evans. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. If not, then we can vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Next is a summary of the Planning and Public Safety Committee. meeting by council member massadi thank you mayor massadi called the meeting to order on 1 14 p.m this is the may 12 2015 meeting i'm sorry june 9 2015 meeting all committee members in acres bloodstow farmer gives hens and gay lamb scutchfield massadi and senate were in attendance a motion was made by farmer to approve the may 12 2015 Planning and Public Safety Committee summary and motion seconded by Akers the motion passed without dissent We spoke at length about the greenway plan and manual Derek Paulson commissioner of planning gave a presentation of the greenway plan and manual During the discussion these facts were noted there are 43 identified greenway spaces which are in varying stages And each case will be needed to be determined and ranked in terms of further maintenance which will factor into which greenways are accepted. In response to a question about the timeline for the plan, Paulson stated they have to acquire stakeholder input for the Greenway Manual prior to moving forward. Next, they will undergo a ranking process. Paulson informed this will be a gradual process. Scutchfield stated she would like to request signage to help educate neighborhoods about height of grass, etc., involving greenways. She would also like a list of greenways to be looked at by the parks comprehensive plan. Henson inquired about the property owners that have been maintaining greenways and if they will continue to do so. Paulson said this will be addressed as they go through the greenway manual discussions. The next item on the agenda was the food truck safety. We discussed that in today's planning commission meeting and the last item was a motion by Bledsoe to adjourn, seconded by Acres. Meeting adjourned at 2.18 p.m. That's all, Mayor. Thank you, Councilor Irversati. and next on our agenda is the budget and finance committee report by council member stendon thank you mayor it's been a while since we had one of these so I'll catch us up on different fund balance numbers our meeting was called order at 101 p.m. first item on the agenda was approval of the summary it passed without dissent the next item was our monthly financials and I'll give the year-to-date revenues this is just revenue numbers through May of this year in our four major categories as compared to budgeted. The first item, employee withholdings. The actual is $158,659,000 as compared to budget of $160,161. Net profits was $32,988,000 as compared to budgeted $32,102,000. Our insurance tax actual collections were $27,639,000 as compared to budget of $26,665,000. And then our last big one is franchise fees. The actual were $22,121,000 as compared to budgeted, $20,037,000. The year-day total revenue is actually $293,398,582 as budgeted. Collected, I'm sorry, that's actual collected. Budgeted was $287,822,000, and that's a positive on the revenue of $5,576,000. Going over to the expense side of the ledger, Council Member Brown, Our actual expenses were $252,394,000, and our budgeted was $267,372,000. This is a difference on expenses on the plus of $14.9 million. Our total fund balance then with revenues and expenses year-to-date is $19,135,363. If we take out the year-end reallocation that we did back in April, leaves us a fund balance through May of $8,498,963. That sums up most of our monthly financials. The unemployment rate stayed at 3.6% here in Fayette County. There were several questions from the committee on the monthly financials, which conclude our second item on the agenda. Our next item and spent the rest of the meeting on the local minimum wage ordinance. We had a presentation from two U.K. economic professors, Professor Ken Trosky and Professor James Zilliack from the Gatton School of Business. That meeting lasted until 3.03 p.m. and we adjourn. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Stenet. Next is a presentation on the fiscal 2016 ad valorem options by Elizabeth McGee, our Division of Budgeting. Thank you, Elizabeth. Okay. Melissa is out today, and Bill is obviously out, so I am pitch hitting for ad valorem, so bear with me, but I think we'll get through it pretty smoothly. So our presentation today is going to go over our required ad valorem calendar dates that we presented to you in the packet that was distributed on July the 31st. We're also going to talk about the various taxing districts that you'll be voting on, the various options and scenarios that the administration has prepared for you, and go over any questions that you all may have. The first slide is just a review of the calendar that was in the packet that was sent to you. Our property tax valuation was certified by the state on July the 23rd. Based off of this certification date, per the KRS requirements, we have to set property tax rates within 45 days. So our 45th day per the calendar is September the 5th. Everything else is based off of that time frame, and this calendar preserves all of your options for setting rates and preserves the option to have a public hearing and all the required advertisements if they are needed. We would have, hopefully, have approval of the tax rates today at work session. We would get first reading this Thursday. Second reading and the public hearing would be on August the 27th. We would also have advertisements in the paper on the 14th and the 17th. And all of these dates comply with the current KRS related to property taxes. The districts that are for you all today are, there are two types. The LFUCG taxi districts, which are the ones you're most familiar with. Those are your general service property tax and your urban service property tax, which are paid by those residents who are in districts that get those services. But we also have three special taxing districts, soil and water conservation, agricultural extension, and the health department. Just a brief overview of property values that was in the packet that we distributed to you. For fiscal year 2016, property taxes being real estate had a valuation of $23.8 billion for Lexington. And that was a 2% increase over the 2015 certified assessments of $23.3 billion. This 2% increase is more than what we had included in the adopted budget. So we do pick up a little bit of revenue based off of that. But because the 2% increase was a little bit more that was in the budget, the library is also entitled to a little bit more money. We are required to give the library five cents of our general fund real estate tax by KRS. So their allocation for 2016 is entitled to increase by $82,700. So this would give them a new allocation of $14,364,650. One note that is important to remember, the library is entitled to that regardless of whether we collect it or what our property tax rate is set at. So in discussions for ad valorem rates for you, generally speaking, we're giving you four options, both for general fund and urban fund. Your first option will be keeping rates the same as they were in the prior year. The second option is the compensating rate, which provides approximately the same revenue as prior year for existing properties. So any increases you get under the compensating rate are coming from new property. The third option is the 4% increase, and it's the highest rate available to us that isn't subject to a voter recall. It does require a public hearing, however. Option four is any rate that you set in excess of the 4% rate, and it is subject to voter recall. So within 45 days, if a petition requesting a recall is signed by 10% of the voters in the last presidential election, which in our case would be 12,841 voters, the recall provisions take effect. So what does this mean for the general fund? For the general fund, we've presented the three primary options here. option one would be keeping the rates the same as last year which except for personal tea we are required to roll personal tea back so that is slightly lowered in option one this provides additional revenue for the general fund of $594,950 and that's net of the increase we are required to give to the library option two is our compensating rate. It is also the same as the prior fiscal year, so the impact on fund balance is the same as option one. And option three for the general fund would be the 4% increase rate. This would raise realty to 0.083 and would give you the option to raise personalty rates to .0949. The additional revenue generated by those two changes would increase revenue by $1.3 million, net of the increase to the library. This rate would require a public hearing. In addition to the rates that we've traditionally adopted, the Vacant Property Review Commission has established a rate of $1 per every $100 valuation for abandoned properties. And those are properties classified by the commission as abandoned urban property. Their recommendation has been reviewed by the Department of Law, and this is in accordance with all applicable laws. That rate would apply to 69 parcels in Lexington for this tax year. The impact of those various rate scenarios on a $165,000 house in Lexington are outlined in the slide. For prior year and compensating rates, the tax bill would be $132. And for option three, the 4% maximum rate, it would be $136.95. The administration is recommending option one, maintaining the current rates for the general fund tax and adopting the abandoned urban property rate. Your urban services fund options are outlined here. It's the largest category of revenue for the urban fund. It's nearly 90% of all revenue for urban fund. And your options are prior rates, keeping the rates the same. This rate for the urban fund would generate approximately $130,000 of additional revenue. Option two is compensating. So this is going to give us approximately the same revenue for existing properties. For the urban fund, this would lower rates slightly for all three services, as well as the public service company rate, which is simply the sum of the three services. This option would decrease revenues by $222,000 approximately. Option three is your 4% maximum rate. This would increase all three service rates in the public service rate and would provide $1,094,000 approximately in additional revenue. And then our option four that we compute for you for the Urban Services Fund is the cost of service rate. This rate is based on the urban fund analysis that was also provided to you while you were on break. So we have calculated the cost of providing all three of the services in the Urban Fund to determine what is the property tax rate that would be necessary to generate that much revenue. So for refuse collection, the cost of service rate is .1441. For street lights, it's .0325. For street cleaning, it's .0101. All of these combined would give you a public service company rate of .1867. This would generate an additional $2.7 million in revenue for the Urban Fund. Options 1, 3, and 4 all require a public hearing because they exceed the compensating rate. In addition, option 4, the cost of service rate, is subject to voter recall for street lights and street cleaning because they exceed the 4% allowed by KRS. And for a property owner for a $165,000 house, the impacts are shown here. Option one, prior rates would be a tax bill of $286.77. Option two, your compensating rate would be $283.80. Option 3, your maximum 4% rate would be $294.86. And Option 4, your cost of service rates would be $308.06. Again, for this year, the administration is recommending maintaining all current rates at the current level. So the Option 1. All right. Council Member Stenet. I was going to ask a question on that statement. So the administration's option one staying the same. But if you go to option four, are we saying that 53, 63 for streetlights is what it really should, is what it really cost us to turn on all the streetlights in Fayette County? For our forecast, yes. So there are a number of assumptions in our forecast. and the discussions that I was a part of was we were going to let Dow and Traffic Engineering and them work through the backlog because the properties that are still being brought online for streetlights wouldn't need to maintain that rate necessarily over time. So in that essence, we don't need to really jump to 5363 yet, but for the new council members, the street lights and the street cleaning fund are bankrupt. We're not collecting enough revenue from the taxes to pay for the services. So we're balancing that by taking from the general fund every year. And using the fund balance that they have had in the past to do some of their capital improvements, but yes. Is there any fund balance left? I would have to double-check that. But I think we're working on the plan. Is that the message? Yes. And that we don't need to make any changes today, but in the future? But they definitely need to be analyzed. Yeah, I think it's in the Committee for Budget and Finance to look at it. So I appreciate that response. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Stenet. Council Member Maloney. I'm going to follow up with what Council Member Stenet said. A few years ago back, we raised the franchise fees to pay the bankruptcy, the shortfalls that we're having with the streetlights and the street cleaning. How far along close are we? Now, that's three or four years ago. Where are we now? Are we still okay with the franchise fees the way we raised it a few years ago to continue to use general funds to pay enough to off-track what we're shortfall at? Or is that we're eventually going to have to catch up? Because these franchise fees were just a band-aid approach, temporary, to take care of this problem. eventually we're going to go ahead again in the negatives again because we won't have enough money to use the franchise fee to pay for the streetlights and all that when is that gonna happen Councilman alone I don't go ahead and address how we're approaching this process right now last year we put in 2.2 million from the general fund to to address the discrepancy, the variance there. We'll recommend doing the exact same thing again right now. What we're looking to do is what I want to show you. I've just been brought in to help kind of shore up the current refund plan that we need to get through. And to look at how we're going to address this in a policy format moving forward. We've got to get this backlog of installations shored up. This is why we can't recommend any change to this rate right now because we can't say with any certainty what it might look like. We've got a projected completion date of October 15 to get the 431 streetlights installed. We need to go ahead and get this rate approved today. We can't wait until those streetlights are installed to find out exactly what that cost of service is. From there, we've also got to start working on getting this policy fully standardized and to you to work through all the different standards that need to be laid out. That way we can look forward towards this conversation in 2017 to know exactly what it costs us. So we no longer have to talk about this, one, refunds, and also talking about the compensation from the general fund. Okay. I understand where you're coming from and all that. My thing is, eventually, we're going to have to go back to what we did three years ago, either raise the franchise fee to make off of this or raise this tax that we're looking at. I just want to know two questions. How much, when we raised that 1% or whatever percent was, I know you can't answer it, Lance, but can you get that to me and tell me how much, when we raised the franchise fee, how much was added to the general funds and how much shortfall, which you all paid with 2.2, you all were able to do, But I believe it was a lot more money going into that, raising that franchise fee. I think it was anywhere from $3 to $4 million. I may be wrong, but I believe it was around there. So in two or three years from now, when we start doing all these streetlights again and get them caught up, we're eventually going to end up being back in the same boat. I just want to know when is the date that we're going to have to come back either. I don't want to go through this broken record again. Nobody wants to raise taxes. That's what it's going to come down to, or raise the franchise fees. But I think this council, the new council members, need to know where the problem is, educate them to know that we have two options, either raise the franchise fees again, or we increase the tax on this. So I need to know the date when we start going back into the red on how, and I think it would be a big help for this council. I'll absolutely make sure we get that, too. Thank you. councilor standing mayor i think before we get too far along i think yeah we need to go ahead and go back to the general services and and make a motion on each one of these before we get too far ahead of ourselves all right okay that way we can we can stay in order we can do that uh this This will take a little time, and let me intervene quickly here. This won't take long. Council members are familiar with that I am planning to make a comment regarding the CenterPoint project, and I'd like to make that comment now. It has come to our attention that a number of media reports concerning the CenterPoint development are discussing the possibility of relocating City Hall to the property. So it is perfectly clear. While the developer may want the city to move City Hall, and they are free to make any proposal, there has been no commitment to do that, and there will not be any commitment to do that or anything else on the property unless it is in the best interest of the taxpayers. our taxpayers have options and our city has and will continue to consider all possible options all right thank you councilmember stennett go back to you thank you mayor elizabeth we can go back to the general services options there we go there we go thank you elizabeth one more we gotta go one more rates oops keep going one more with a couple more back there we go all right i'll move that the council for the fiscal year or the calendar year 2016 adopt option one for all the general services categories and i assume i can do them all once david yes for option one for all general service categories so moved motion by council member stennett second by council member brown is there any discussion on the motion all right hearing none then we can vote all in favor please say aye aye opposed no motion carries the mayor i move to place an ordinance pertaining to these taxes on the docket for thursday august 13th 2015 council meeting so move motion by council member stennett second by council member henson any discussion hearing none we can vote all in favor please say aye Opposed, no. Motion carries. We can go to the urban. All right. Urban services. And I move that we adopt option one for all urban services fund taxes. So moved. Second. Motion by Council Member Stendon, seconded by Council Member Brown. Any discussion? All right. Hearing none, we can vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. And the mayor moved to place an ordinance pertaining to these taxes on the docket for Thursday, August 13th 2015 council meeting motion by councilor extended and second by councilor Massadi is there any discussion all right if not then we can vote all in favor please say aye opposed no the motion carries council members and I'll pause there and let her continue all right thank you Elizabeth okay our last item we need to discuss is our special tax districts as I mentioned before this is soil and water conservation agricultural extension and the health department all of the agencies are requesting to maintain their current rate except for the extension service which is requesting a slight increase to their real property from point 0.034 to point 0.035 all right didn't help that's a good slide good slide elizabeth we're going to council member standing is there anyone here from the extension that can speak to why the request yeah that's right yeah i saw i'm sorry i saw you i was gonna Thank you. We have a prepared statement there that has three items on it. My name is Nick Carter, County Extension Agent for Agriculture. Diana Doggett, the County Extension Agent for Family and Consumer Sciences, is with me. Thank you for the opportunity to present to you. We have primarily three reasons for passing down, increasing the cost from .34 to .35. So we, the University of Kentucky, adopted the raise in the minimum wage or raise into the starting wages. And we had several people in our support staff that this pertained to. So this has passed down a cost to us with salaries and benefits of $17,200 for the coming year. The second is a $25,000 cost for a stopgap. And what stopgap is, is when you have an opening and an agent leaves, to maintain that person because of cuts that have been from the state level has required us to pay a payment estimated at $25,000 a year and primarily last for up to two years. We have a 4-H position that's now going to be vacated at the end of August, and so that cost is coming on to us. And the third cost is we bought the building from you all in 2011. It's a 25-year-old building trying to maintain it and upgrade it. We ran into several things that need to be done to it, and so it's incurred a cost of $300,000 plus. thousand dollars so those are the reasons we put forth with that and I'll entertain any questions at this time all right any questions or comments council members council members stand no but I'll go ahead and make the most okay and just for council members if you use the hundred sixty five thousand dollar household that matters to five dollars and seventy cents annually for a house that costs 165 thousand if that request change to point zero zero three five is approved so i'll make the motion um that we approve the requested rates if we could put them back up please for the conservation and soil district so moved second motion by council member stennett and second by councilman maloney is there any discussion the first one oh okay we got it we already got it we got oh would you do two motions no I just did one okay we got the relation in a second is there any discussion on that motion council member Henson were you for another okay well you can talk about it now then okay yeah under discussion right we're in discussion is that but is this for the extension no ma'am it's just for the yeah I'll wait I'll wait okay thank you all right is there any further discussion? All right. Hearing none, then we can vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. All right, Mayor, I move to approve the requested rate for the real property and personal property for the extension office. So moved. Second. Motion by Council Member Stenet, second by Council Member Farmer. Is there any discussion? Council Member Henson. Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to comment that if you're not familiar with the Fayette County Extension Office. They do a tremendous amount of work in our community. And I've been at the facility several times for different functions. I actually serve on an advisory board there, but they are very much in need of upkeep and maintenance on their building. It's a very nice building but yet there are some improvements and it would also enhance the services that they offer there so I just wanted to share that with you thank you thank you Councillor Henson Council member Fred Brown yes question on this particular request increase when you showed the other categories you showed options one, two, three, based on our tax rates going up or I guess our population and our number of properties being taxed. What is the actual, was there any increase at all under the current rates for them? For compensating, I believe .035 is the compensating rate. I can double check that and get back to you on that. And their 4% increase, I can get that same slide for the budget. What I'm asking is if it's stated the same as the current rate, would there not be an increase in what they would get in the budget? That's what I'm asking you. I can calculate that for you. I don't have it with me. But we have looked at that. I can get that for you. Well, it depends on my vote. Okay. All I'm saying is there should be an increase automatically. Right? For all of these agencies, their rate is so small, any increase they would get is fairly insignificant, just on the existing rate. All right. Any further comment? Ed discussion, Council Member Bledsoe. Yeah, I understand. It's all right. I'm hesitant, but in Ed's honor, I feel like somebody needs to make the point. There you go. And Ed would, so I will at least make the point that it's interesting that since the compensation went up, that it is passing down. It's just a point obvious, and I just think someone should make the point. It's very small. I'm a big fan of the ag offices, but it's just interesting that it, you know, ideas have consequences. Thanks. Any further discussion? All right. So we're going to vote on the motion then. All in favor of the motion, please indicate by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, no. No. All right. The motion does carry. Thank you, Mayor. And then last on the health, I move to make a motion to put on the docket the requested rates or approve the requested rates for the health tax there at the bottom. Second. Motion by Council Member Stenet, seconded by Council Member Akers. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. If not, then we can vote. All in favor, please say aye. All in favor. Opposed, no. Motion carries. And then, Mayor, two more motions. I move to place ordinances pertaining to these taxes on the docket for August 13, 2015 council meeting. Second. Motion by Council Member Stenet, seconded by Council Member Farmer. Is there any discussion? All right. If not, then we can vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. The mayor moved to schedule a public hearing related to ad valorem tax rates for Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 6 p.m. at the council meeting. All right. Motion by Council Member Stennett, second by Council Member Henson. Is there any discussion? All right. If not, then we can vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Thank you, Mayor. Council Member, thank you. Council Member Stennett, thank you very much. All right. Elizabeth, thank you, too. All right. This takes us to council reports. If council members will please sign on, and then I'll call on you. Did I get that right? I thought I saw Council Member Akers up. Council Member Maloney. Thank you, Mayor. I'm going to hit something that might hit a nerve for a lot of people, but not me. but I'm concerned about the safety and one thing is the kids on October 31st this year we're going to have the Breeders Cup here in Lexington and we also have the race the Tennessee football the last race for the Breeders Cup is at 5 30 in the afternoon the football game I believe is at seven or eight and trick-or-treat is from six to eight and most of you all know that the average person who comes from keeneland will not take a regular route to get to the football stadium they will go through the neighborhoods and that is a big concern that i have and i just feel for the safety of these kids, and I support trigger-treating, and I think it should be done at the safest possible way of doing this. I believe that we should move this to another day. And, Mayor, I don't know where you are. I know we've had problems used. Everybody said October 31st. But this is unique. This is the day that we're going to be all over the map. and the last thing we need to do is be on the map of a kid getting hit on a car and we want to make sure we say keep excited about what we're doing that we have not only we have the American Fair win the Breeders' Cup but Kentucky beat Tennessee but the last thing I want to read is a kid getting hit by a car so I would like to know if possibly if a promotion needs to be made today or we continue this discussion that we do it the Friday night before, and I know there's people saying there's high school football. Well, first of all, high school football kids should not be out trick-or-treating, so I think those are the kids. So hopefully that we have kids out there that are under 12 that are doing the trick-or-treating, so that would be my recommendation, and I assume this is going to open up a lot of hornets, and if you want to discuss it, but I wanted to bring it out now, because we've got two months, and good planning, being proactive, then waiting a week or two or three days before Halloween is a big mistake. And I just feel it's best that we go on and try to move this to a different date. Yes, Mr. Chief of Staff. Mr. Ammons. Thank you, Mr. Maloney. Yeah, the conversation has been going on for a couple months. The Keeneland folks actually did come to us first and request that we consider that. But, you know, I think the bottom line is there's really not a good night that weekend. We've talked to the police about it, and it's going to be challenging any night of that weekend. Well, I think it's going to be less challenging on a Friday night when you don't have a Kentucky football fan for 70,000 people going to the Tennessee game between the peak time between 5 o'clock and 8 o'clock when it's trick-or-treat time, and everybody's going to be going through these subdivisions. Don't tell me they don't go through subdivision. You can ask every council member who lives around there. There's going to be traffic going through these subdivisions. And it's hard to see at night, and it starts getting dark at that time. And the last thing we want to do is have one of those kids because daylight savings goes to this day. Now, I feel, and I'm joking, but I will personally feel that we should do it on a Friday night. I don't disagree with the safety concerns. I think, you know, Breeders' Cup runs Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, so you're going to have traffic no matter what. But I would say that when you start tinkering with Halloween, you run into some issues. We've experienced that before. So why don't we sidebar, and we'll come back with a final decision. Don't wait until the week before Halloween. I'd like to have an answer before then. Thank you. Okie dokie. Okie dokie. Thank you, Richard. I mean, thank you, Council Member Maloney. Council Member Akers. Thank you, Mayor. First of all, I would like to make a motion to schedule a public hearing for a TIF application for the CISL station development on Thursday, August 27th at 6 p.m. So moved. Motion by Council Member Akers and second by Council Member Bledsoe. Right. All right. Did we get that date? Correct. What was that date again, Council Member Akers? Thursday, August 27th at 6. everybody get that there's a council meeting there's a council meeting that night you don't have to change your calendars all right at the beginning i guess okay all right is there any is there any discussion on the motion any further discussion all right hearing none then we can vote all in favor of the motion please indicate by saying aye aye opposed no motion carries And secondly, I just wanted to share that the Meadowthorpe Townhouse Board is meeting tonight at Thoroughbred's Restaurant at 6 o'clock in the Meadowthorpe Shopping Center. And then the Meadowthorpe Neighborhood Association is meeting at 7 at the Community Center on Larch Lane in the park. That's all I have. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member Stennett. Thank you, Mayor. And, Mayor, I just want to say publicly thank you for your statement on CenterPoint. And I think it's imperative that moving forward, we have accurate and transparent information. And I think whatever we can do, and I know you're committed to doing it on the city's behalf, but on all parties involved, information is critical and people want to know what's going on. I think what we can do to make sure that happens is very much appreciated. So thank you, Mayor. CAO Hamilton. I know Commissioner Holmes just left. I was going to ask him an update on the paving rating system. Will that be ready for the district council members to be able to make their selections next month? Or when do we anticipate that at this point? I asked for, and I'm holding, I think, later this week, a meeting with the staff on paving because I want to know exactly when the, I think the consultant is scheduled to talk to the council on the 15th of September. But in my head, I am not sure how that jives with getting you all your paving lists. so I will know that by the end of the week so are they done with their work in and now are they all finished you know I don't know but I will know all of these details and be able to report back to you probably next week to give you a good schedule I'll send out an email to that'll be fine we've been on break for a month I just if you could keep us in the loop that'd be great Councilman Brown. In relationship to this pavement, are we going to be able to do any paving this fall? That is certainly the goal that I think you all have told me to be sure and deliver on. Well, if you're waiting for a pavement plan for September 15th. I know, but there are alternate ways to do this. And what I want to do with the staff is to know all of the alternatives to be able to get to you all for what you want to accomplish. And what I understood is you wanted to pave this fall. Absolutely. Thank you. Okay. Council Member Stanton. Thank you, CAO. And then I know our CIO is here, too. Can you give us a quick update that you gave me earlier on the Wi-Fi for the building, especially this chamber? I know Council Members are still experiencing some frustration just here in the chambers. I know you're on top of it. Thank you for your patience. We had a total assessment of this building and also the Phoenix building of the Wi-Fi. It's with a company. It's called Extreme Networks. They come in with software. We actually gave them floor plans for every single floor in this building and the Phoenix building. I have a report now that actually shows where the connectivity is very poor and also shows interference, because you have interference from other devices and interference from floor to floor. What I'm waiting for now is the cost. In that original report that we have already, they made recommendations on where certain devices need to be placed on every floor. I'm now waiting for them to give me an estimate of the costs by floor. Probably some of the poorest receptions that are in our public areas. First floor and this floor. By the way, it's terrible where you all sit. It's a little bit better back there, but not a whole lot. I'm proposing that we look at the first floor, this floor, and the fifth floor, which is also not very good. And then we look at the costs and what it might take. So that's as of just about a week ago. Thank you. I appreciate that update as well. And then last but not least, Council, I know we've moved a couple of items, the design excellence and the ZODA discussions, until after Council Member Lane's replacement has been named. We have another important topic that I feel strongly all 15 Council Members should be represented, and that's our discussion next Thursday, April or August 20th on the minimum wage. So I think we should also give thought to moving that until we have all 15 seats filled so we can have a full and frank discussion, because otherwise we're going to leave one district not represented on that issue. uh during our discussion on august 20th so i know vice mayor's not here and customer sadi just left so we'll wait and maybe in thursday night uh see if we can come up with alternative dates so that we can have all seats represented on this council thank you mayor thank you council thank you council member stennett council member scutchfield thank you mayor i just have something quick we've had some issues in the seventh district regarding our retention and detention areas and who is required to maintain. I've spoken with Councilmember Farmer, and I'd like to place this into committee to, I guess, have standard protocol for both the maintenance, enforceability, and management of these areas. So moved. Second. Motion by Councilmember Scotchfield. Second by Councilmember Akers. Is there any discussion? All right. If not, then we can vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Thank you, Councilmember Scotchfield. Councilmember Fred Brown. Yes, I'd just like to make an announcement. The Gainsbury Neighborhood Association will meet tonight at 7 o'clock, and it'll be at the Tates Creek Golf Club House. That's tonight at 7 o'clock. Thank you. Thank you, Councilmember Brown. Councilmember Henson. Thank you, Mayor. Today in the Planning Public Safety Committee meeting, We saw a presentation on the Armstrong Mills small area plan, and I think we do a lot of studies. We spent a lot of money analyzing things, and the one thing that I would like to get a presentation on is the fire station location study that was done and completed. so I'm going to move to place that into the Planning and Public Safety Committee for a presentation. Second. Motion by Council Member Henson and second by Council Member Akers. Is there any discussion? Okay. If not, then we can vote. All in favor, please say aye. Oops. Oh, Commissioner? Yes, sir. If I could, we're planning on a presentation for the full council in September. We're working to schedule that if that would be okay. I didn't realize that, so I'll withdraw my motion. Thank you. All right. Thank you. And the second's withdrawn. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Akers. Oh, all right. All right. Thank you, Commissioner. Anything else, Council Member Henson? That's it? Oh. No. All right. Council Member Maloney. That was Fred Brown. Did James Brown? James Brown. Were you on? Okay. James Brown. Council Member James Brown. Thank you, Mayor. I just had a few announcements. August the 25th, I'm having coffee with Congressman Andy Barr at BCTC Newtown Newtown Pike campus from 6 to 7 o'clock. Unfortunately, on that same night, there's a Legacy Trail public meeting being held at the Lyric from 6.30 to 8 p.m. so I'm going to encourage everyone to attend that meeting as well. I'm going to try to wrap up with the congressman and get over there as fast as I can. And then also there's a Duncan Park Centennial Celebration scheduled for August the 29th from 3 to 7 p.m. And it's going to be a live band, food, some local talent is going to be featured as well. I think Vice Mayor Kay has already confirmed to speak, and I think we're going to try to get you to show up to as well, Mayor. But, yeah, I encourage everyone to attend those events. And I know it's kind of early, so you'll probably hear me remind you of those events again. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member. Council Member Loney. I'm sorry. Can I ask the law to come up here for a second, please, Janet? I need to ask you a question, please. it's been brought to my attention that there's some council members trying to get ready to prayer before the council meeting is that true or how can that be what can happen on that and how does that happen I don't know anything about it I've just been told and I just want to know can they do that the council can basically the rules on legislative prayer are you do not have to have an invocation If you do want to have an invocation, then there's a current Supreme Court case on that that came out, I want to say, last year. And you can't, if you invite people to pray in their own tradition, you can't then tell them how to pray. So those are the rules on legislative prayer. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Farmer maybe has a question, Janet, before you... Just to follow up, I mean, the council sets its agenda. I mean, we set that. That's an ordinance that says what the order of business is and what the points of business are. And I'm not aware of any movement among council folks to change that, although personally I would not be in favor of making that change. I will not be in favor of it either. I just wanted to know, can it happen? I just want to know how we can prevent it from happening. Yes, sir. Agreed. Thank you. Council Member Stennett? And I would just chime in and say if any council member, obviously it's our purview to change that. If there is a council member who would like to change it, I would hope they would bring it to the council and have the council weigh in on that decision, whether it be around this horseshoe or in our Cal meetings. I don't think the law department is the place to do that or the administration. I think it's a council purview, and it should come to the council. So if any council member wants to change it, this is the place to come, and let's talk about it. Thank you, Mayor. All right. Thank you, Council Member Stennett. Anyone, that's all who signed on for council reports, unless I'm missing somebody. All right. That allows us to move to the mayor's report. Is there a motion to approve? Move approval. Second. Motion by Council Member Farmer, second by Council Member Stenet. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. If not, then we can vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Next on our agenda is public comment for issues not on the agenda. Mr. Mundy, anybody signed on? Okay, all right, no one signed on. That allows me to ask for a motion to adjourn. Is there a motion? Motion by Council Member Farmer and a second by Council Member Bledsoe. Unless there's an objection, we are adjourned. Thank you.