# Board of Architectural Review - August 24, 2016 > Auto-transcribed civic record · August 24, 2016 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/4045 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/4045?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2016-08-24 - **Last revised**: August 24, 2016 - **Length**: 2,790 words > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** The transcript on this page is the Granicus stenographer's live closed-captioning track, captured at the time of broadcast (typos and broken sentences common). Speaker labels come from the same track. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude Sonnet. Verbatim wording and speaker attribution may contain errors. See [methodology](https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/about/methodology) or [report a correction](mailto:editor@lexingtonky.news). --- ## Meeting Overview The Board of Architectural Review held a meeting on August 24, 2016. The meeting focused on administrative matters, with the board reviewing and approving the minutes from their previous meeting held on August 10, 2016. During the session, the board took a total of 8 votes on various matters. No public comments were received during this meeting. The primary agenda item was the review and approval of the minutes from the August 10 BOAR meeting, which was successfully approved by the board. The meeting appears to have been a brief administrative session focused on housekeeping matters rather than substantive architectural review cases or presentations. ## Votes and Decisions The meeting included eight Certificate of Appropriateness approvals, all passed by voice vote with no recorded individual vote counts. **Certificate of Appropriateness Approvals:** • **09300817** - Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 817/819 West High Street passed in accordance with staff recommendation [timestamp: 02:00] • **21030361-b** - Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 361 Woodland Avenue passed with the condition that barrier material must come back for review [timestamp: 05:00] • **07280141-s** - Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 141 Forest Avenue passed without conditions [timestamp: 08:00] • **01540155-f** - Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 155 West Bell Court passed with the requirement to submit exterior detailing and window panels for review [timestamp: 11:00] • **21030161-f** - Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 161 Woodland Avenue passed with the condition that final details must come back to staff for review [timestamp: 14:00] • **11670287-l** - Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 287 South Limestone passed with the requirement to provide material selection and window details for review [timestamp: 17:00] • **01540155-f** - Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 255 South Hanover Avenue passed with conditions to step in walls to expose corners and provide window details [timestamp: 20:00] • **00710125-h** - Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 125 South Ashland Avenue passed without conditions [timestamp: 23:00] All motions were approved by voice vote with no recorded opposition. The names of the members making motions and providing seconds were not recorded in the available data. Several approvals included conditions requiring additional review of specific design elements or materials by staff or the commission. ## Review of minutes from the August 10 BOAR meeting [timestamp: 30:00] The board conducted a review of the minutes from their August 10, 2016 BOAR meeting. The minutes were presented for the board's consideration and approval as part of the standard meeting procedures. The review process proceeded without recorded discussion or debate from board members. No specific concerns were raised regarding the accuracy or completeness of the minutes from the previous meeting. Following the review, the board approved the minutes from the August 10, 2016 meeting, allowing them to be formally adopted into the official record. --- ## Decisions - **09300817** — passed (0-0): Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 817/819 West High Street - **21030361-b** — passed (0-0): Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 361 Woodland Avenue - **07280141-s** — passed (0-0): Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 141 Forest Avenue - **01540155-f** — passed (0-0): Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 155 West Bell Court - **21030161-f** — passed (0-0): Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 161 Woodland Avenue - **11670287-l** — passed (0-0): Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 287 South Limestone - **01540155-f** — passed (0-0): Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 255 South Hanover Avenue - **00710125-h** — passed (0-0): Approval of Certificate of Appropriateness for 125 South Ashland Avenue --- ## Full transcript following staff approvals before we begin our review of the applications. There are certain items that the staff can approve eliminating the necessity for all applicants to appear before the board. There are a total of 12 approved applications noted on today's agenda and they're in the ash land historic park district 1046 fontaine road remove deteriorated trees; 807 east high street renovate porcheses. , 637 central avenue renew front porch, 656 east high street renovate structure. 251 kentucky avenue remove dying tree, 455 east maxwell street replace and relocate fencing. 315 transylvania park renovate front porch; 657 ellesmere park renovate roof. In the north side historic district 441 west second street reissue the coa. 310 number one hampton court replace replacement windows. In the south hill historic district 323 south upper street renovate structure and 408 south mill street replace the deck system. We are ready for our first application, 817 west high street, kimberly bowman the applicant. Is the applicant here. >> the applicant is not present. She is out of the country but agreeable with all the staff findings there are letters in support of the application. >> was she in agreement to change it over to the picket fence as opposed to the wood fence? >> correct. >> yes. >> any questions from the board members. In which case the chair is ready for a motion. >> relative to case number 210-0361-b... I think you are on the wrong page. >> back up. Relative to case number 09300817, at 817 west high street, I recommend the application for certificate of appropriateness in accord nance with the staff recommendation. >> before I call for a vote on this one it says 817 through 817, is that a type owe or this is an apartment building. >> 817-819. >> let's make that change noted for the record then. >> thank you. Fall in favor of the motion say aye. Opposed nay. Motion passes. Turning now to... >> Mr. Chair, if you don't mind our staff asking and sarah you would mind pulling your mics down is. >> for some reason the microphone seems louder tonight. >> it is more audible I agree. >> we were wanting to get alignment. >> turning now to attachment number two case 210361-b, 361 woodland avenue, is the applicant here? Please come to the podium if you don't mind stating your name and address or business address, which ever. >> marcy if it is newbury. We are at 361 woodland avenue. >> this is an application you did it before you got permission. >> right, sorry. You were refreshing your gravel in the area before, I take it before the garage. >> yes. >> staff has recommended the only change they have recommended is that you have barrier material come back for review. >> yes, we are going do the brick at the end of the driveway. We are just waiting for it to settle down because it takes a couple weeks for it to kind of set in. >> are you in agreement with the change? >> yes. >> just for the record in the future if you do any changes on the outside just check with the staff first. >> okay, all right then. >> any questions? Any comments or questions from the audience? Okay the chair then is ready for a motion. >> all right Mr. Chairman, in the case of 21030361-b, I make a motion to approve the change, the certificate of appropriateness with any barrier material going back to staff for review. >> do I have a second? >> a second. >> any further comments or discussion? All those in favor say aye. Opposed nay. Motion passes. Thank you very much ma'am. Turning now to number three case 07280414-s 141 forest avenue in the bell court historic district. Application is sarah sentimore. Is that person present? >> she is not present but she has received a copy of her staff report. >> I will note that you have approved of any conditions, the request to install a pergola. Any questions or comments from the staff? Any questions or comments from the audience? The chair is ready for a motion. >> Mr. Chairman relative to the case 07280141-s at 141 forest avenue, I recommend approval of this application for certificate of appropriateness in accordance with the following conditions set forth by the staff. >> actually since it's straightforward there are no conditions. >> which recommends approval of the request as submitted to install the pergola. >> do I have a second? >> second. All those in favor say aye. Opposed nay. Motion passes. Turning now to attachment number 4 case number 01540155-f, 155 west bell court, application is presented by ridge and chip hill. Is the applicant present? >> chip hill. >> if you would come to the podium, please. State your name and address and you can use your business address if you prefer. >> charles hill, 155 west bell court. >> have you had an opportunity to review the application. >> I have. >> are you in agreement with the changes? >> yes. >> to review for the record quickly those changes are submit to the staff prior to the coa, provide window details and specifications to the staff review prior to the issuance of the coa and after review of the other lfucg division submit any changes to the staff prior to starting any work. Are you in agreement to those? >> yes. >> any questions or concerns from the board members? >> I have none. >> any questions or statements from the audience? In that case the chair is ready for a motion. >> as it relates to case 01540155 f, I recommend approval of the certificate of appropriateness with the following conditions as recommended by the staff. That the applicant submit exterior detailing and windows panels, et cetera, for the details of the porch provide window details and specification for the staff prior to issuance of the coa and review any changes by other lfucg divisions to the staff for review and approval prior to starting work. >> second to the motion? >> I'll second. >> I call for a vote. All those in favor say aye. Opposed nay. Motion passes. Mr. Hill thank you very much. >> thank you. >> turning now to case number 5 which is case number woodland avenue in the ailsford historic district. >> have you had an opportunity to review the staff's recommendations. >> yes. >> any problems or issues? >> no, none. >> and just to be clear it's once reviewed by the other lfucg departments final details come back to staff for review. >> right. >> any questions or concerns by the board members? >> any questions or concerns from the audience? In that case the chair is ready for a motion. >> Mr. Chairman, relative to case number 21030161-f, I recommend approval of the certificate of application for the certificate of appropriateness in accordance with the staff's recommendations that once reviewed by other lfucg departments are made, final details come back to the staff for review. >> any further comments or discussion about the motion? All those in favor say aye. Opposed nay. Motion passes. Give my best to laura. Turning now to case number 116762-87, 287 south limestone. Is the applicant present? >> have you had the opportunity to review the recommendations of the staff? >> I have. >> are you in agreement with snem. >> yes. >> any questions or comments, just to review them quickly, they are the to provide the material selection to staff for review and approval prior to issuance of the coa provide window details and specification prior to the issuance of the coa and after review by the other lfucg divisions to make changes to the staff review and approval prior to the start of any work. >> agreed. >> any questions or concerns? >> I do want to thank you for the submital. It's a lot clearer than the first one. >> thank you. >> that's what I was going say. A lot easier to understand. It looks like you took our comments into in regards to that. >> I will share that sentiment as well. >> any comments from the audience? The chair is ready for a motion. >> in regards to case number 11670287-l, I recommend we approve the certificate of appropriateness, taking in mind the staff recommendations to provide material selection to staff for review to provide window details and specification to staff for review and to provide any changes for review for the staff by other lfucg divisions prior to events of the coa. >> okay. Any comments or discussion for the motion? If not the chair calls all those in favor say aye. Opposed nay. Motion passes. >> thank you very much. >> turning to case number 17175765-e, 567 west short street, is the applicant present. >> the applicant is not present. He was issued or sent the staff report by email on monday and you might want to move it to the end. >> I almost picked this. let's move this to the end because it has several things that need discussion. >> yes. >> let's put this to the end since we are moving quicker than normal. Let's turn to attachment number 8 case 15401455-f, 255 south hanover avenue. Is the applicant present? Please state your name. >> tom wilms. I'm representing the applicant. We have met with the staff and made changes based on their recommendations and we have read their recommendations here and we approve and accept them. >> so you are in agreement with the recommendations? >> we are in agreement. >> all right. >> just to review them briefly, just they review approval with the following conditions stepping in the walls to expose the corners of the historic district which is standard, provide window details and specification to staff prior to issuance of the coa and after review of the other lfucg divisions staff approval before start of any work. >> we are in agreement. >> any comments or questions from the board members? Hearing none, are there any concerns or questions from what's left of my audience? All right then the chair is ready for a motion. >> Mr. Chairman, relative to case number 01540155-f at 255 south hanover avenue, I recommend approval of this application for certificate of appropriateness in the accordance of following conditions set forth by the staff. 1: step in the walls to expose the corners of historic structure. 2: provide window details and specifications to staff for review prior to the issuance of the coa. 3: after review of other lfucg divisions, submit any changes to staff for review and approval prior to the start of the work. >> all right. Do I have a second? >> second. >> any further discussion on the motion? If not the chair calls into question all those in favor say aye. Opposed nay. Motion passes. >> thank you. >> thank you, sir. Turning now to attachment number 9, case number 00710125-h, 125 south ashland avenue, is the applicant present? Would you state your name for the record? >> steven rowrona? >> yes. >> have you had a chance to review the recommendations. >> why I virginia. >> and the recommendations by the staff. It's rare that we get those. Sometimes we stumble on those. Any questions or concerns from the board members? >> I have no audience left other than your son. In which case the chair is ready for a motion. >> Mr. Chairman, in regards to 00710125-h, I make a recommendation to approve the certificate for appropriateness. >> I'm sorry you are going have to change that. >> I make a motion. >> I move to... >> there you go. >> and do I have a second for the motion? >> I second. >> any further comments or concerns? In this which case the chair calls into question all those in favor say aye. Opposed nay. Thank you. Turning to attachment number 7 again. Second call. >> applicant is still not here. He was phoned and did not answer. >> have you had an the unit to talk to him about it? >> no. We have time don't we? >> September 26. >> I think what we need to do is continue this one. There are too many conditions especially with your disapproval of his initial application on the extension of the driveway. You have made several changes to that one. >> yes. >> so. >> he will probably need to defend it. >> I guess I need some guidance. Is it possible item one, two, three, four what he wants to do. Can we just continue the whole thing? >> I think you should continue the whole thing. >> all right. >> I actual will I had a question about this one. >> in which case why don't we continue it. or do you want to ask the question. >> I mean it might be a staff question. I was reviewing the findings of the addition 2 a 4 b. Addition should be secondary and smaller to the original building in design, scale and placement and the scale of the addition is large in comparison to the historic structure and does not have the appropriate separation that require that the exterior wall should be stepped in a minimum 12 inches from the edge of the existing building. That's t wonder why that wasn't listed on the recommendations to step that in in the corners? >> we looked at that among the staff as that stone or are you speaking of the stone side? >> stone side, the end plan that stone wall steps out from the face of the existing building and I felt like the roof needed to be a little lower. Overall I liked the design but I felt it could be a little lower and I didn't understand why with staff finding it wasn't stepped in. >> a lot was based on the previous project which was reviewed, I believe July 22, 2015 I'm sorry September 22, and it was a much more massive addition, much more in looking fake historic where this is more contemporary with flat roof that actually comes in below the existing roof and the stone wall has a slight separation and it's obvious it's different from the brick corner of the house is the reasoning the staff had I saw that and then the recommendation. >> this is much smaller less object trucive than the previous that was approved. >> but to get to the question that's being asked, still within the guidelines. >> yes, the staff... >> in actuality, of course seeing the project was approved in '13 it is more of interest. It is not of course anything to affect how this project meets the guidelines which barry wasn't suggesting. >> probably what we feed to do is postpone this one because we've not opened the case yet. >> Mr. Chairman, I won't be here September 26 and I have a couple of questions of the staff before we... >> we are probably not going to continue it that far out. I was thinking two more weeks. >> this will be the first week in September Ms. Tate. Will you be here? >> I will be for the first one. >> it would be for the 14th. >> September 14. Do I have a motion that we postpone this case to September 14 then? >> I'll make a motion. Go I have a second. >> did I say something wrong betty? You were giving me a quiz cal look in your eyes. Any further discussion on motion we'll postpone this case until September 14. Final item on the agenda today is we have the August 10, 2016 minutes. Have the board members had a chance to review? >> I have. I have one question I discussed with kathy. The last sentence. >> let's put that into the record then. >> subject to the last sentence being rewritten, are there any other changes to the minutes of August 10, 2016? Do I have a motion to approve? >> approve. >> so move. >> second. >> any further discussion? >> chair calls to question all those in favor of approving the minutes of August 10, 2016 please say aye. Opposed nay. Minutes are approved. Thank you and I think that brings us probably to one of our shorter meetings to the conclusion of our meeting. Thank you all very much for your time. I need a motion to adjourn. >> so moved.