# Planning Commission Zoning Public Hearing - April 26, 2018 > Auto-transcribed civic record · April 26, 2018 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/4505 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/4505?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2018-04-26 - **Last revised**: April 26, 2018 - **Length**: 4,910 words > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** Audio from the official Granicus video was auto-transcribed with OpenAI's open-source Whisper large-v3-turbo model, run locally by The Lexington Times. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude. Verbatim wording may contain errors. See [methodology](https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/about/methodology) or [report a correction](mailto:editor@lexingtonky.news). --- ## Meeting Overview The Urban County Planning Commission convened on April 26, 2018, at 1:30 PM in the Council Chamber on the 2nd Floor of the LFUCG Government Center at 200 East Main Street in Lexington, Kentucky, with Bill Wilson presiding as the meeting officer. The commission addressed four agenda items during the session, all of which were approved by the board. The meeting focused entirely on development and zoning matters, including two development plans, one subdivision plan, and one zoning map amendment request. The commission conducted seven motions and votes throughout the proceedings, with no public comments recorded during the session. All agenda items received favorable outcomes, demonstrating a productive meeting where the commission advanced multiple development projects in the Lexington area. ## Attendance The following members were present at the meeting on April 26, 2018: • Bill Wilson • Headley Bell • Will Berkley • Patrick Brewer • Mike Cravens • Larry Forester • Mike Owens • Frank Penn • Carolyn Plumlee • Carolyn Richardson Karen Mundy was absent from the meeting. No members arrived late to the meeting. ## Votes and Decisions The meeting included seven formal votes, with most items receiving unanimous approval from the 10-member body. **Minutes Approval** [timestamp: 00:30] Carolyn Plumlee motioned to approve the minutes of the March 22, 2018 meeting, seconded by Carolyn Richardson. The motion passed unanimously 10-0, with all members voting in favor: Bill Wilson, Headley Bell, Will Berkley, Patrick Brewer, Mike Cravens, Larry Forester, Mike Owens, Frank Penn, Carolyn Plumlee, and Carolyn Richardson. **Postponements** [timestamp: 02:00, 04:00] Two development cases were postponed. Mike Owens motioned to postpone PLN-MAR-18-00002 (Overbrook Farm, LLC zoning map amendment and development plan), seconded by Larry Forester. The postponement passed 9-0 with one abstention. Carolyn Plumlee then motioned to postpone PLN-MAR-17-00041 (Winchester 836, LLC zoning map amendment and development plan), seconded by Headley Bell, passing unanimously 10-0. **Development Plan Approvals** [timestamp: 06:00, 08:00] PLN-MJDP-18-00015 (Richardson Property development plan) was approved unanimously 10-0 on a motion by Mike Cravens, seconded by Larry Forester, subject to revised conditions provided by staff. PLN-MJDP-18-00022 (Lansdowne Subdivision, Unit 18-D, Sec 2 - Townhomes of Laredo development plan) also passed unanimously 10-0 on a motion by Mike Owens, seconded by Carolyn Richardson, with revised staff conditions. **Zoning and Related Approvals** [timestamp: 10:00, 12:00] Patrick Brewer motioned to approve PLN-MAR-18-00005 (Clay Ingels Company, Inc zoning map amendment), seconded by Carolyn Richardson. The motion passed unanimously 10-0 subject to conditional zoning restrictions. The related PLN-MJDP-18-00020 (Liberty Heights Subdivision development plan by Clay Ingels, Co., LLC) also passed unanimously 10-0 on the same motion and second, subject to five conditions noted by staff. All approved items included specific conditions or restrictions as recommended by planning staff. ## Richardson Property Development Plan [timestamp: 06:00] The commission reviewed agenda item PLN-MJDP-18-00015, a development plan amendment for the Richardson Property. John Barlow presented the proposal, which seeks to expand the existing residential development by adding 36 additional condominium units to the current 104 units, bringing the total to 140 units. The amendment represents a significant expansion of the existing development footprint. The discussion focused on the proposed increase in density and the implications for the surrounding area. Following deliberation, the commission approved the Richardson Property Development Plan amendment with revised conditions. The specific nature of the revised conditions was not detailed in the available materials, but the approval allows the developer to proceed with the expanded 140-unit condominium project. The approval of PLN-MJDP-18-00015 clears the way for construction of the additional 36 units, representing a 35% increase over the original development size. ## Lansdowne Subdivision, Unit 18-D, Sec 2 (Townhomes of Laredo) Development Plan [timestamp: 08:00] The planning commission reviewed development plan PLN-MJDP-18-00022 for the Lansdowne Subdivision, Unit 18-D, Section 2, also known as the Townhomes of Laredo project. Jacob Walburg served as a key speaker during the discussion of this agenda item. The proposed amendment seeks to create 16 lots within the subdivision and depict the planned townhouse development. The development plan outlines the layout and configuration for the townhome units to be constructed in this section of the Lansdowne Subdivision. Following review and discussion of the proposal, the planning commission approved the development plan. However, the approval came with revised conditions that were incorporated into the final decision. The specific details of these revised conditions were not detailed in the available meeting materials. The approval allows the developer to move forward with creating the 16 lots as proposed and proceed with the townhouse development according to the approved plan and any stipulated conditions. This represents another phase of development within the larger Lansdowne Subdivision project in the community. ## Clay Ingels Company, Inc Zoning Map Amendment [timestamp: 10:00] The Planning Commission considered petition PLN-MAR-18-00005, a zoning map amendment request from Clay Ingels Company, Inc. The petition sought to rezone property from Two-Family Residential (R-2) to Light Industrial (I-1) to accommodate construction of a wider, realigned entrance driveway. Nick Nicholson served as a key speaker during the discussion of this agenda item. The amendment was presented as necessary to improve access to the property through driveway modifications that would require the industrial zoning designation. The Commission ultimately approved the zoning map amendment, but with conditional zoning restrictions attached to the approval. These conditions were designed to ensure the rezoning would be used specifically for the stated purpose of the driveway improvements while maintaining appropriate land use controls. The approval allows Clay Ingels Company, Inc. to proceed with their planned entrance driveway project under the Light Industrial zoning classification, subject to the conditional restrictions established by the Commission. ## Liberty Heights Subdivision (Clay Ingels, Co., LLC) Development Plan [timestamp: 12:00] The planning commission reviewed development plan PLN-MJDP-18-00020 for the Liberty Heights Subdivision proposed by Clay Ingels, Co., LLC. Nick Nicholson served as the key speaker presenting information on this agenda item. Staff recommended approval of the development plan, subject to five specific conditions that were noted during the review process. The details of these conditions were not elaborated upon in the available meeting materials, but they represent standard requirements that must be met before the development can proceed. The development plan received approval from the commission, allowing Clay Ingels, Co., LLC to move forward with the Liberty Heights Subdivision project in accordance with the stipulated conditions set forth by planning staff. --- ## Decisions - **Motion** — passed (10-0): Approval of the minutes of the March 22, 2018 meeting - **PLN-MAR-18-00002** — postponed (9-0): Postponement of Overbrook Farm, LLC zoning map amendment and development plan - **PLN-MAR-17-00041** — postponed (10-0): Postponement of Winchester 836, LLC zoning map amendment and development plan - **PLN-MJDP-18-00015** — passed (10-0): Approval of Richardson Property development plan - **PLN-MJDP-18-00022** — passed (10-0): Approval of Lansdowne Subdivision, Unit 18-D, Sec 2 (Townhomes of Laredo) development plan - **PLN-MAR-18-00005** — passed (10-0): Approval of Clay Ingels Company, Inc zoning map amendment - **PLN-MJDP-18-00020** — passed (10-0): Approval of Liberty Heights Subdivision (Clay Ingels, Co., LLC) development plan --- ## Full transcript Screaming out her warning, girl you better eat your redhead back in bed before the moan. 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That wasn't Carolyn's voice. Oh, okay. I heard two voices. It's been moved by Ms. Plumlee, seconded by Ms. Carolyn Richardson, that we approve the minutes of March the 22nd, 2018. Any further discussion on the motion? Hearing none, would you please vote when it comes up on your screens? Motion carries. Thank you. Postponements and our withdrawals. good afternoon chairman members of the commission this is nick nicholson i'm here on behalf of overbrook farm it's on page four of your agenda item number two we'd like to request a one month postponement to may 24th we are still working on a development plan but hopefully we will have that to you within the next few days okay anyone in the audience like to speak to this particular agenda item? Anyone on the commission? With that, we'll entertain a motion. Mr. Chair, I'll move postponement of plan MAR 18-2 Overbrook Farms LLC until May the 24th along with the associated development plan. It's been moved by Mr. Mike Owens, seconded by Mr. Larry Foster that we postpone PLN MAR's 18-2 Overbrook Farm, LLC until May the 24th, along with the associated development plan. Any other discussions on the motion? Hearing none, would you please vote when it comes up on your screens? Motion carries. Thank you, O.C. May the 24th. Mr. Chairman, members of the commission, my name is Matt Carter. with Vision Engineering. If you look in your agenda on page two, item one, 836, LLC, MAR 1700041, I would ask for a one-month postponement to the May 24th hearing. And the reason being, we are planning on amending our application for both the zone we are requesting and one of the variances will need to revise and we have tried to get a hold of people in the neighborhood to let them know they don't have a formal representative for them so there are two people that have kept in contact with us and we've let them know we were postponing anyone Oh, I'm sorry. It's on page 2, item 1, A, P-O-N, M-A-R 17- yes. And when the audience would like to speak to this postponement request. Anyone on the commission? Okay. If not, we're ready for a motion. Ms. Plumlee. Mr. Chair, move postponement until May 24th for plan MAR17-14 Winchester 836 LLC. Okay, it's been moved by Ms. Plumlee, seconded by Mr. Healy-Bell, that we postpone PLN MAR17-41 Winchester 836 LLC until May the 24th. Any additional discussion on the motion? Hearing no, would you please vote when it comes up on your screens? Motion carries, so you made the 24th. Okay, any other postponements, withdrawals? If not, I guess we're ready then to hear our first agenda item, development plan, page one. Scott? Scott? Good afternoon. You should all have a copy of the revised conditions for Richardson property. This is plan MJDP 18-00015 Richardson property. It's located off of Hannah Todd Place. This is the area of amendment. They had three condo buildings with 104 condo units in it. They are proposing to add an additional 36 condo units for a total of 140 condo units in this area. And so they came in with a revised plan. So we have the revised conditions you see below with just typical sign-offs, and we just want to have them verify the totals in the site statistics for the EAR for where these condo units are. Are there any other questions? Any questions for Ms. Gallup? Thank you. Applicant? Yes, my name is John Barlow. I'm the owner of Commonwealth Designs, and I'm asking for approval of PLN Major Development Plan 18-0001. Okay. Any questions for me? The revised conditions are okay with you? The revised conditions that we have, you started off with this? Yeah, I agree to that. Okay, good. Okay, any questions for the applicant? Okay, thank you. Anyone in the audience have anything to say about this? I would like to. Okay. Ms. Wade? there was one email that we received about the development plan and so I want to circulate that to the Planning Commission and then I would just mention that mr. Barlow did provide his affidavit about the signposting for the for the particular development and it does appear to be in order for that okay there's no one in the audience would like to speak to this agenda I'll mr. I'm just going to move. Okay, then we're ready for a motion. Move approval of Plan 18-15 Richardson Property for the revised conditions. Okay, it's been moved by Mr. Craven, seconded by Mr. Forrester, that we approve PLNMJDP 18-15 Richardson Property as amended with 11 items as identified by staff. Any other discussion on the motion? If not, would you please vote when it comes up on your screens? Thank you. The motion carries. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Martin, Mr. Chairman, members of the commission. The next item on your agenda is at the bottom of page one. It is Major Development Plan 18-22, Lansdowne Subdivision Unit 18-D Section 2, also known as the Townhomes of Laredo amended, and we have passed out for you some revised conditions. You can see the plan before you up on the screen. It is a lot that was previously used for the amenities, the clubhouse for the neighborhood. It is now being proposed for 17 townhouses. The typical townhouse is 1,275 square feet. They're two stories. They're going to be 28 feet in height. They're providing 16 parking spaces for the townhouses, or 17. There will be one per house. and this is an R3 zone. Your typical lot is about 25 feet by 90 feet and that's just typical. There'll be some slight variation. You can see that by the odd shape of the lot. As I said, this lot was the lot where the amenities for the neighborhood had existed. Originally, there was some concern, as you all can see, with Laredo Drive. This is an amended plan. Laredo Drive is heavily traveled. collector. There's some speed issues in the area. Access is fairly well controlled from neighboring properties and townhouses and apartments in the area. There are some single family homes with driveway access immediately adjacent to this property. Initially, staff's concern was with the driveway access to Laredo because of the curve and the high speed in the area. This amended plan is a compromise between issues and concerns. They have shared driveways, but they've limited the access. Originally, every townhouse was going to have an access along Laredo. They're now sharing access, so they reduced the number of access points on Laredo. In conjunction with that, we had a large meeting, and we actually got water quality involved as well, along with traffic and discuss the issues. They have agreed, the applicant, to work with traffic engineering on some additional measures that could help slow traffic in the area and raise drivers' awareness to help with these access points. One of the issues we had originally discussed with them would have been rear loading. That would have required more pavement. It could have required underground detention. we are getting a lot more green space their ability to meet the required water quality standards and detention standards this is over an acre they have to meet the requirements of the stormwater manuals so there was a lot of discussion on balancing the various demands placed on this site and what you have is a new plan a revised plan where staff was able to work out the issues to everyone's satisfaction You can see from the handout, there's all sign-offs or standard sign-offs. We do have a couple of cleanup items. Correct note number eight, the state Laredo Court. The original plan stated that construction access would be off of Laredo Court. This particular version of the plan just said Laredo Drive. No doubt that that's a typo, but we just want it clear. Construction access will be off Laredo Court. And then delete note number 12. Note number 12 is just a statement of a requirement that they will address improvements on the improvement plan. Well, yes, they will. And that's just a statement of how our regulations work and doesn't really need to be on the development plan. Staff is recommending approval of this plan to you, and I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. Any questions for Mr. Martin? Mr. Owens? Tom, thank you, Mr. Chair. Tom, the, whoops, went away. In between where you mentioned the green area, what's the white area? I don't remember. That's the proposed area where they'll be doing detention. It won't be green? They'll have to describe the details to you, the applicant. Okay. It's mostly green space. Okay. Any other questions for Mr. Martin? Thank you. The applicant? Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, members of the commission. Jacob Walburn on behalf of the applicant. We're in agreement with the staff report and would request your approval. To address the question that was asked about the green space, our presumption is that it will be green. That detention can be, we haven't done the calculation yet, obviously. It may be grassy detention, it may be an underground detention, but our intention is for that whole backyard area to be green. would correct one thing that Mr. Martin said. He said we had 17 units. We only have 16, but just to clarify for the record and wanted to express my appreciation to staff, particularly Tom and Casey for getting in a room with us, coming up with some solutions to some sticky problems for us. What ultimately we're going to do just for the commission's benefit in between the shared driveways and on either end of them, we will do curb bump outs that will increase site distance and give folks a little bit of extra spacing and time to get out. Traffic has indicated that that's an acceptable proposal to them. I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have and sincerely appreciate your time. Any questions for the applicant? Thank you. Anyone in the audience like to speak to this agenda item, this development plan? If not, I'll come back to the commission for a motion. Mr. Chair. Mr. Owens. I'll move for approval of Plan MJDP 18-22 Lansdowne Subdivision Unit 18-D Section 2 with the revised 11 conditions. It's been moved by Mr. Mike Owens, seconded by Ms. Carolyn Richardson, that we approve pln mjdp 18-22 lansdowne subdivision unit 18d section 2 with 11 revised conditions provided by staff any other discussion on the motion if not would you please vote and it comes up on your screens motion carries thank you Okay. All right, we got it up there. You might want to introduce yourself. Certainly. My name is Aliza Turco. I am the planner senior for zoning with planning services. I work under Tracy Wade. I do what she used to do before she was promoted to her position now and it is my pleasure to present this case before you today Thank you So to get started here, let me see if this looks All right, well good afternoon Chairman and council members Our first and I believe only zoning change case that'll be heard today is in your notebooks behind tab three It's also accessible on your screen, of course The zone change request is for case number PLN MAR 18-5. It's for Clay Ingles Company, which is both the applicant and the owner of the site. The zoning request is to change the zone from two-family residential R2 zone to light industrial I1 zone on just under a quarter of an acre of the site. The site is located on both 910 and 912 Delaware Avenue, but the two of those parcels are presently being consolidated into one parcel. The proposal is to rezone the site in order to construct a wider, realigned main entrance driveway to better accommodate the truck traffic to and from the Clay Ingles site. The driveway improvement is intended to replace an existing narrow driveway on adjacent I-1 site which is also owned by the Clay Ingalls company. Here we've got the zoning map area presently along with the 500 foot notice. The subject site is the white area and it's on the south side of Delaware Avenue. It's directly adjacent to an I-1 parcel. Let me see if I can point that out here. So that's an I-1 parcel that it's directly adjacent to which is also owned by Clay Ingalls as as is the site to the south, which is a large I-1 parcel. To the west of the subject site, you can see that that is B-4, both on the south side of Delaware and the north side of Delaware. There's an R-3 parcel directly across the street, and that's just a parking lot for the B-4 parcel next to it. All of the R-2 over here is the Liberty Heights neighborhood, and as I stated, that is R-2. All right. That's the larger area map of the zoning and the area. So here you can see where Delaware Avenue intersects with Winchester Road. There is a traffic light right there. So that's mainly, I believe, where the trucks exit and enter onto Delaware. There's also a railroad track that comes up here. Across the street from the site, which is I-2, or I'm sorry, I-1, that is the GIF plant. there are other industrial uses all around the area along with some warehousing in the before but the majority of this area is I won and before on the aerial photograph it's a little easier to see what's going on and you can see the brickyard and all of its activities going on to the south of the subject site that narrow driveway is on the I won directly beside the site you can see of course the neighborhood I know there's a fast food restaurant many storage warehouses and a bunch of other industrial and warehousing uses there are three entrances to the Clay Ingalls site that I wanted to point out one is here on Winchester Road right adjacent to the railroad tracks the other is the main entrance with the traffic light and then if you go all the way south there is also an entrance but it's kind of shared with an Italian restaurant called the Italian pasta garage. That is the site itself. That is the two lots. They look like one lot, which is why they're being consolidated. And you can see all the activities for the brickyard behind it. And then next, you've got the site, of course, over here. This is the narrow driveway that exists right now for the trucks. And that is the brickyard behind it. That's a B4 warehousing property, and you can see a little bit of a corner of a privacy fence for the R2 beside it. And here we're looking west along Delaware, and those are all B4 properties, and that does lead you to Winchester Road and that traffic light. Here we're looking east along Delaware, and that is the Liberty Heights subdivision. So now we're on to the justification here. The applicant states that the comprehensive plan does not speak toward this type of rezoning, and that is true. Staff concurs. Therefore, the rezoning can't be justified by the comprehensive plan. However, there are other ways in which to look at rezonings, and the one that we're looking at today is appropriateness versus inappropriateness. The applicant justifies the appropriateness of this rezoning request by stating that the I1 zone is appropriate and the R2 zone is not appropriate due to, and I will outline these, and they are in your staff report in your book. If you want to look at them detailed, I'm going to kind of abbreviate them a bit. And it's due to the location of the subject property being surrounded on three sides by B4 and I1, and, of course, a road on the fourth side so you can get there. It's also due to the fact that buffering has been historically nonexistent between the R2 lot or lots and the B4 and I1 that are beside it. The third reason is due to the years of vacancy of the residences that had been on those lots. The houses have since been demolished due to disrepair. and they determined that these homes are not being occupied because of the close proximity of the active industrial uses and warehousing wholesale uses in very close proximity to those residences. The fourth is that there's the access to an industrial zone is not permitted through a residential zone. Therefore, in order to better their access, they would have to rezone the site to something industrial so that they could get to the site and obey all of the ordinances. So the recommendations, they're detailed in your packet, and I'm not going to go through them in detail. But staff does recommend approval, and there is conditional zoning that is included, and we will get to that, but when we do, it is on your blue sheet that was handed to you before the meeting. the approval is based upon the following reasons the requested light industrial zone is appropriate for the subject site for the three reasons that are in the staff report in your binder the existing two-family residential zone is not appropriate for the subject site for the two reasons that are in the staff report in your binder this recommendation is made subject to the approval and certification of the development plan of course as usual the conditional zoning restrictions that are proposed include these two any outdoor lighting shall not be directed toward nearby residential properties and that just makes sense because of the proximity obviously of the residences and the second conditional zoning is any freestanding signage shall be limited to one freestanding sign not to exceed 15 feet in height and 32 square feet in area and these restrictions are appropriate and proper because the site lies immediately adjacent to existing single-family uses across Delaware Avenue and that concludes my presentation if you have any questions any questions nice job applicant oh I'm sorry I forgot about the development plan okay she did such a wonderful job I didn't think we needed you this is one of those that you may very well want to forget about this this body has in fact been asked to review boulevards and large roadways on development plans in your expansion area well the development plan that you see before you today which is on page five of your agenda is for a driveway for an industrial access it's about 130 feet long across that existing property it's 30 feet from back curb to back of curb with a 40 foot apron being proposed again to allow access for the large trucks that serve the site staff is of course along with your subdivision committee has recommended approval subject to four sign-offs and in one number five condition on the top of the next page is just to denote the proposed land use in the site statistics, which is, of course, industrial access. It's a rare plan indeed. Do you have any questions about this complicated development plan that we've been presenting? I think Mr. Martin understands. Okay, thank you. Applicant. Good afternoon. Nick Nicholson here on behalf of the applicant, Clay Ingalls. As the staff has very eloquently put it, there is not much to this. This is simply a zone change request to kind of widen and realign an existing industrial access point in such a way to direct the traffic that is coming to the site in a more efficient manner and the trucks that are leaving this site directs them towards Winchester Road and away from the residential uses that already exist. it is not introducing any type of new use is not introducing any type of new business to this area is not going to increase traffic it is not going to increase noise in any way this is simply an existing business owner that is trying to make his property more efficient and also do this in a way to basically help a known issue and help solve kind of the residential concerns that are right next door we'll continue working with the staff in order to make sure that any landscape buffering that needs to go in will go in and we're certainly in agreement with the restricted zoning uses that were proposed by the planning staff. Happy to answer any questions if you all have it. Mr Cravens has a question. Yes sir. I say ask away. Somebody's got my screen switched but he wanted me to ask about a fire hydrant. Is there a fire hydrant in the way that drive? We need fire to come down here. I can tell you I don't know. What did you get up for? Because everyone looked at me. I know we aligned it to miss a utility pole, but there's a lot of stuff on that street. Well, we have an expert here who can help us all out. We will relocate the fire hydrant if that comes into play. That is for sure. We're already having issues hitting curbs. We don't want to hit a fire hydrant. I think so. This fire hydrant is located all the way over here. It is not on the corner where we are talking about the actual access drive. And so we will make sure that all appropriate testing is done. And if it needs to be relocated, we certainly will relocate it. Mr. Penn, do you have a question? Very seldom do I ever get to vote for Mike Cravens, and I just couldn't miss that opportunity. They've got our screen switched. I will make sure this history moment is noted. That's quite all right. I wanted him to. He was concerned about the fire hydrant. I want to be sure he got to ask that question. Absolutely. Okay. Ms. Plumlee. just double-check and you are gonna do a buffer yes we are yes we are and we'll work with staff to determine what exactly it is it's kind of a little unusual because the area that's actually right next to the residential is already zoned I want and so we are essentially going to put put in I want to our to buffering even though that that is not actually part of where our zone change request is. Our request is technically right already next to I want, but we're agreeing as part of this final development plan process to make sure that the appropriate buffering goes into place and the applicant actually owns the R2 parcel right next door as well. So there will not be an issue with any type of neighbor dispute. Mr. Lawrence. Thank you Mr. Chair. Nick you made a comment statement that said that traffic accident would be directed towards the winchett so is this going to be one way in it is not it is essentially what this what I'm saying by that is right now it is straight and it is takes a full 90 degree turn and so essentially trucks are also incentivized to take a 90 degree turn into the residential if they're going out towards basically Liberty all the way out to New Circle this is directed so it basically it is a more natural turn to be headed to to Winchester Road in order to kind of hope that more exiting traffic is headed that way and not to the neighbors okay thank you anyone else thank you anyone else who would like to speak to this agenda item. Okay, back to the commission. Mr. Brewer. Any comments? Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion, please, sir. For approval of MAR 1805 Clay Engels Company. Okay, you would just add the conditions. Again, the associated conditions, yes, sir. Okay. It's been properly moved by Mr. Brewer, seconded by Ms. Carolyn Richardson, that we approve PLN MAR 18-5 Clay Engels. Ingalls Company with the conditions determined or identified by staff. Any other discussion on the motion? Now would you please vote when it comes up on your screen. Okay, the motion carries. Thank you. Now the development plan. Yes, sir. I'd like to make a motion for approval of MJDP 1820, the associated development plan. Okay. It's been moved by Mr. Brewer that we approve and second by Ms. Carolyn Richardson that we approve the development plan PLN-MJDP 18-20 Liberty Heights subdivision, Clay Engels Company, LLC, with the five noted conditions by staff. Any discussion on the motion? If not, would you please vote when it comes up on your screen. Okay, that motion carries. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Duncan, you have anything you want to add? Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just a reminder, the committees meet next Thursday, Phoenix Building, seventh floor. We'll see you all then. Any commission member have anything to say or want to say about anything? Anyone in the audience? Not? Without objection, the meeting is adjourned. Thank you for your presence. Thank you. Bye.