With me Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. ¶¶ ¶¶ Thank you. The End Thank you. Thank you. We begin with the roll call and then we have an invocation. Thank you Father for joining us. Madam Clerk, and we've got the Cal Ripken baseball teams outside so it may get a little little little noisy tonight that's a good thing all right madam clerk please call the world yes sir miss Bledsoe mr. Fred Brown here mr. James Brown miss Evans mr. Farmer mr. Gibbs here miss Henson here vice mayor Kay here Ms. Lamb here Mr. Maloney Ms. Massadi Ms. Plumman Mr. Smith here Mr. Stenet and Mr. Worley thank you sir all right madam clerk thank you next I will welcome father William Redmond from Holy Mother Queen of all Greek Orthodox Church, and who is the special guest of Councilmember Lamb tonight. Father, thank you for joining us. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, amen. Lord God, we come before you as the people of Lexington, asking that you grant your continued blessings upon our community. May the rolling hills and the peaceful plains of the bluegrass continue to reflect the beauty of your creation. May all the people of our city continue to live together in the harmony that you have commanded us to observe. May our universities and colleges so shine and enshrine your wisdom that we continue to be worthy to be known as the Athens of the West. May we understand that though we are of many opinions, we are called by your spirit of peace to civility and discourse. May we understand that though we are of many creeds, you offer unto each of us your abiding love. May we understand that though we are of many stations in life, each one's work is a reflection of the glory of that creation which is your work. May our duly elected government, our mayor, and our council members undertake their work in humility, recalling that they were sanctioned to serve by the people of this city. And may we, the people of this city, seek to aid them when we are called, recalling that we owe obedience to civil authorities according to your commandments. We pray you, protect those who protect us, guarding and strengthening those who sacrifice and serve as police officers and firemen. We pray you grant temperate seasons and abundant harvest for the farmers and horses who so contribute to the economic well-being of our beloved bluegrass. We pray you allow us to remain open to your grace that we might all seek to do your will and your work in the world. And may we all appreciate your love by which we are blessed to live and rejoice in our guarded commonwealth and in the city of Lexington, which we have made our common home. The prayers of our holy fathers and mothers of the Lord Jesus Christ, our God, have mercy in us and save us. Amen. Thank you, Father. I often say to those who give our invocation that you are welcome. We offer you an invitation to join us and stay with us, but not the obligation. Thank you, sir. All right, we have two presentations tonight, and I will go to the podium for those. I had it on my notes here, Susan. I said invite Council Member Lamb. Right. Thank you, Council Member Lamb, for joining me. And I want to ask Mike Campbell to also join us. Is Mike here? He's outside. Mike is outside, so he's going to be bringing the Cal Ripken, the teams in. we're asking all the players and coaches of the Lexington Cal Ripken baseball teams to join us right here at the front of the chamber yeah you guys can stand up yeah there we go there we go come on everybody Thank you. Hey Mike, how you doing? Good to see you sir. Yes sir, good to see you buddy. Okay. All right. Thank you guys so much. Everybody is so well behaved. This is amazing. So, Lexington was well represented this past summer when three of our local baseball teams competed in the Cal Ripken World Series. And we were so proud to watch these dedicated, great young players command the field and compete so well. We also want to recognize the coaches and managers who serve in these roles, who not only serve in the roles of coaches and managers, but as mentors and role models as well. Tonight, we want to recognize their accomplishment with the Spirit of Lexington Award. something that we reserve for those citizens who exhibit the true spirit of our great city. So I'm going to read one of these awards that is going to be presented to J.T. Cooper. J.T., J.T., J.T., hold your hand up. J.T., all right. J.T., yours is representative of all the Spirit of Lexington Awards that we're going to give to all your team, everybody here. And it reads, the Spirit of Lexington Award. to J.T. Cooper in recognition of the Southeastern Cal Ripken 10U World Series runner-up. I, Jim Gray, as mayor of Lexington do hereby recognize J.T. Cooper, team member, with a Spirit of Lexington Award. That was an applause line, guys. Now I'm going to ask Council Member Lamb to speak, and after Council Member Lamb, I'm going to invite Mike, Mike Campbell, who is president of the Southeastern Baseball, to speak. Thank you, Mayor, and I'm so happy that all of these teams came out tonight. we actually had four baseball teams that were actually in Cal Ripken World Series this year, and the other team, which is South Lexington, they couldn't be here tonight, but they're going to be here on the 27th. So I think that it's pretty outstanding that Lexington has four Little League teams that went to the Cal Ripken World Series tournaments, and that's pretty amazing for me. And so three of those are here tonight. And, of course, I am prejudiced because you guys are Southeastern, which is at Veterans Park, and I have watched you all play some, and I appreciate that. And I'm just excited that we have a World Series champions team. We have a runner-up, and then we have ninth-place team, which is amazing. You know, it couldn't be without great leadership from the league. all of the coaches that are here tonight. I really appreciate everything you all are doing with our youth tonight. I mean, it's been an amazing journey, and I've enjoyed getting to know you all through some of the activities at Veterans Park. And I'm just thrilled, and now I want to recognize Mike Campbell. Mr. Mayor, Councilmember Lamb, Councilmembers, thank you for the opportunity. On behalf of the 1,200 families that play at Southeastern Cal Ripken during the spring, summer, and fall months, we would like to thank you, the citizens of Lexington, for supporting us. Lexington, unequivocally, is a baseball town. We can talk about basketball and football all we want, but as you can tell, we are a baseball town. And I'm so proud to speak on behalf of our families and on our teams, much thanks to our parents, who these go from 4 to 12-year-olds. So they're still driving to practices and games, to Florida, to Indiana, to Missouri. We were very blessed and fortunate to play teams from all over the country. two of us played teams from Hawaii, California, Florida, and North Carolina. Our 12 year old bunch got to play a team from Australia which was pretty special for all of us. So thank you for your support. Parks and Recreation does a fabulous job. We work hand-in-hand with them and the staff at Parks and Recreation. Without them none of this would be possible. So thank you so much for having us. All right, so we're going to get pictures now. Thank you. Thank you all. All right. Their day was over the weekend, so the date is September 28th. Okay. All right. Rachel, come right over. Yeah. Just right here. Can I ask them all up here? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Rachel, thank you. And James Brown, Council Member James Brown, thank you all for joining me here at the podium. This past Saturday, September the 8th, Lexington Habitat for Humanity celebrated its 30th year of providing jobs, services, and, of course, homes for Lexington families. Tonight we want to thank them for their invaluable service and honor them with a proclamation that recognizes this milestone. And it reads, 30th anniversary Lexington Habitat for Humanity Day. Whereas Lexington Habitat for Humanity is part of a global nonprofit housing organization that brings people together to build homes and communities and provide hope. And whereas Lexington Habitat is dedicated to eliminating substandard housing through constructing, rehabilitating, and preserving homes, and advocates for fair housing policies and provides training and access to resources to help families improve their shelter conditions. And whereas Lexington Habitat's Home Buyer Program has served over 450 Lexington households, and the repair program has helped more than 50 families with repairs needed to keep their home stable. And whereas Lexington Habitat has given jobs to over 60 people and added more than $4.5 million to the local economy this year, and the first Habitat home in Lexington was dedicated 30 years ago. Therefore, I, Jim Gray, as mayor of Lexington, do hereby declare September 8th, That was last Saturday, 2018, as Lexington Habitat for Humanity Day in Lexington. There we go. I want to say thank you to our urban county government, who has partnered with us from day one, those 30 years ago. and thank you to Lexington whose compassion and generosity is what makes it possible for us to do what we've done. You heard two numbers. I'm going to give you a different one. Almost 1,000 families have been directly impacted by Lexington Habitat for Humanity, locally and globally with our tithe funds through Habitat International. So thank you, Lexington, for making it possible for us to serve these 30 years. Thank you for what you will continue to do with us, we know, for the next 30 plus. Yeah, I just wanted to take a minute to congratulate Habitat for 30 years. I know this year is my third year on council, and Rachel and her team has been nothing but supportive with our office every step of the way. They kicked in and helped us when we were doing the Duncan Park Centennial, Winburn Community Partners, the Douglas Park Centennial, and now they're helping us with the East End Community Partners. I think what Rachel and her team does as far as providing affordable home ownership opportunity to Lexington families is priceless. And the fact that they go back into the communities that their families move into and to continue to invest and show love to those families and those communities is just a great thing. So thank you for all you do. Thanks for being a great district partner, and thank you for everything you do for our city. Thanks. Hey, James, you need to remember we have a big supporter here. He's been speaking here for 30 years, Bernard, who comes in and talks about it, And I want to recognize Bernard, the biggest fan. You guys right here, that's your biggest fan. Thank you. okay all right councilmember all right before we get to ordinances vice mayor Kaye I'll recognize you thank you mayor I'd like to make a motion to separate the question for second reading for resolution number eight which has to do with the new City Hall and place that first on the docket and allow people who are here to speak to that and then allow council to speak and then a vote from Council on that separated issue. So move. Motion by Vice Mayor Kay to separate resolution for a second read number eight and second by Councilman Henson. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right hearing none we can vote. All in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed no. Motion carries. All right. All right so I I will ask the folks who have signed on to speak to resolution number 8, beginning with, and if you have signed on to speak to resolution number 8, if you'll come up to the podium, if you've signed on to speak to another issue, then that would come later in the agenda. Terry Stout. Is Terry here to speak on on number eight, Terry? Or are you here to speak on another issue? Pardon? On number eight? No, on another issue. Okay, all right. Thank you very much. And we'll come back to you, Terry. Thank you. Graham Pohl. I'm Graham Pohl. I live at 977 Fincastle Road. I'm going to repeat a little bit of what I brought to the table last time. I appreciate the opportunity to speak to you. I'm a retired architect. I've been volunteering on committees and boards for the city of Lexington for many years. And my sole motivation in this issue, like yours, is simply to help make Lexington the best possible place. In these frustrating times when our democratic institutions are under daily attack, we have one government that's nonpartisan and that it's all about service to the body politic, and that's our local government. This is where our citizens from all walks of life can engage directly, can learn the lessons of democracy that they might then apply regionally and nationally. I bring this up because I think it's vital to the future of our national democracy that we fully appreciate and honor our local governments, and I believe the decision you make tonight has the potential to do that. We have many reasons to be proud of our city. Lexington's local government history of innovation and management excellence have made the city a standout. Lexington has repeatedly been recognized nationally as a great place to live, work, and play. These laurels should be celebrated. It's time that the pride we feel for our city is reflected by a city hall that draws on the grand traditions of civic architecture, a place that expresses our pride, that symbolizes the potential of democracy, that is self-evidently the accessible seat of our government. Only one of the proposals for the new city hall meets that description, and that's the proposal to reuse the Herald-Leader site. The location is ideal. The site is a vital, highly visible gateway to downtown. the opportunity to reuse a critical piece of real estate rather than letting it languish and disuse is a rare gift. Reusing this facility will help meet our objective of pursuing sustainable development. Furthermore, locating City Hall at the Herald-Leader site will solve multiple problems that have plagued development of the east end of downtown. It will provide significant parking opportunities and create an anchor around which new secondary and service businesses will thrive. Even if it weren't the least expensive proposal, the Herald-Leader site is the runaway winner. The site, circumstances, and architecture of this proposal embody the civic pride to which we are entitled. Please trust in the process that you've set in motion and secure this fantastic opportunity while it's available. Thank you for your consideration of this important issue, and thank you for your commitment to our extraordinary city. All right, thank you, Graham. Vice Mayor Isabel Yates. I'm Isabel Yates, 717 Maladue, 40502. I think I forgot to tell you last time where I am from. I've been there for many years. Well, I'm here again to express my support for the plan to purchase Harrell Leader site for a new city hall. One, this much available land within the city limits I think is an invaluable resource. It's an opportunity not seen, if any, and if at all, hardly ever seen. The terms of purchase, I think, are reasonable and viable and can be budgeted each year. They are doable as well. Relocating the city hall has been on the table for at least 20 years. But as far as I know, no monies have been set aside or budgeted for this purpose. I think this proposal will not only provide an opportunity, but it will provide something that's important. It will provide the stimulus for economic development in the east end of town. Now, there have been several questions, and there are always two sides, I know. Traffic can be redirected and alleviated, I think, by traffic lights and other measures. And this building and other buildings could be redeveloped. Maybe Holly Wiedemann, someone like that, could make apartments here, downtown apartments. It could be businesses, banks, lawyers' offices, ETC. this is not a perfect plan. I have found out I'm so old, I know that nothing is perfect. And there will be ups and downs to this, I'm sure. But I do think it's not a perfect plan. But I see it as the most viable and tremendous opportunity for a solution of this long-term problem. I thank you for listening and I thank you all for your great service to this community. Thank you. Thank you, Isabel. Jamie Schrader. I'm Jamie Schrader. I live at 805 Old Dobbin Road. I do represent the Herald Leader. I'm going to be brief tonight, but if it was simple to find a three-acre parcel in downtown Lexington or a 170,000-square-foot building, we'd be sitting in a new council chamber right now having this meeting, and we wouldn't be having these discussions. So this is not a simple process to find new available properties, but we now have an opportunity. And Council Member Maloney likes to make a comment about the Chase Tower, and that was an opportunity. It was an opportunity that no longer exists. Opportunities only have a finite period of time where they're available and the door closes. We've had studies done. The feasibility study was done. There were four sites identified. Only one is viable. City center was mentioned. That opportunity is no longer available. I would encourage you all to take action when an opportunity exists because they're hard to find in the downtown area and they have a finite period of time. That's why we went through the RFP process. We've been working at it for a dozen years. We have now gotten it to the red zone. That opportunity will not exist forever, and it's time for you to take action. Thank you. All right, thank you, Jamie. Bernard, do you wish to speak on this question or another issue? Another issue. All right, thank you, sir. Lisa Adkins. Thank you. I'm Lisa Adkins. I'm a downtown resident of the 1st District and I live at 350 East Short Street, one block of the Herald Leader Building, one block west. While I'm speaking tonight in my capacity as a downtown homeowner and a concerned citizen, I also serve as president and CEO of Bluegrass Community Foundation, where we're dedicated to helping Lexington be the most generous, vibrant, and engaged city that it can be. I urge the council to vote yes on negotiating with CRM as the next step to relocating to an expanded modern city hall that will offer many more consolidated city services at the site of the Herald-Leader building. My personal opinion is very much informed by the work that I do at the Community Foundation. Here I have the opportunity to work closely with national foundations, with organizations and firms and individuals that are truly on the leading edge of people first design, creative place making, inclusive and healthy city building, and developing robust civic engagement. This includes the Knight Foundation, the Kresge Foundation, the National Convergence Partnership, ArtPlace America, Gale Penalosa and 80 Cities, Project for Public Spaces, Gale Architects, Gale Institute, among many others. And it's afforded me the opportunity to visit cities around the country and also participate in immersive experience in cities in Denmark and Sweden and the Netherlands. The proposed city hall, from its location to its design to the consolidation of critical city services, strongly reflects, in my opinion, the most important principles of people first design, urban place making and civic engagement. I think the new city hall presents an incredible opportunity for excellent reuse of not one but two outdated buildings that can be put to a much higher use and by relocating city staff from four other buildings in addition to this one, all within downtown in what is now a federally designated opportunity zone it opens up i think very exciting possibilities for further new development and redevelopment including more housing i had the opportunity to interact extensively with emerging civic leaders and emerging philanthropists and for those in their 20s and 30s the thing they say they most want is housing downtown and i think this presents an incredible opportunity in one or more of these spaces. I would ask that the city negotiate with CRM. I know some of you have reservations and if your concerns aren't addressed through the negotiating process, I know you'll have ample opportunities later to vote no. Lexington's a great American city. It's progressive and forward-thinking. I think we need a city hall that reflects that reality and one that can accommodate our city's growth and aspirations. Thanks. Lisa, thank you so much. Van Meter Pettit. Good evening everybody. Van Meter Pettit. I'm an architect and I live about two blocks to the east at 160 East Bell Court. and I'm here to speak in favor of the proposal to adaptively reuse the Herald-Leader property. And there are a variety of reasons for it. I think the most pressing is the fact that we are in a building that was designed as a luxury hotel and it doesn't necessarily lend itself to our needs as a government. We've made a good go at it, but it's been 35 years. And when I see people in wheelchairs and with walkers and with mobility issues having to use a side entrance and a bunch of add-on mechanicals 30 years after the ADA legislation was passed, I personally don't think we have an excuse for that. and I believe sort of getting more into an affirmative mindset, this is a great opportunity for us to show through our own practice as a city what best practice standards are. Alluding a little bit to what Lisa was talking about, if we embrace transportation-oriented design, we are about to build something that's going to transform our city called Town Branch Commons. I would like to recommend that we rename Midland Avenue Town Branch Commons because it's named for a defunct commercial enterprise that I'm not sure anybody living can remember. And this is the DNA of our founding as a community, the course of the Town Branch Creek. We can create a city hall on this incredible bike pedestrian corridor And we can design this facility to be LEED certified, have plenty of renewable energy. We can have covered bike parking. We can have great bus stops. We can be really accessible to constituents with a bigger space that people can actually gather in. There's all kinds of great opportunities to embrace design and efficient use of land, and a better way to organize people so that what you do on a daily basis is optimized and you're in a healthy environment with daylight and fresh air and not a sick building that needs a lot of work. And that matters for the esprit de corps of the government. And are you walking into a building every day that is embracing the latest vision of how we want to be as a city? There's a great opportunity here. So, you know, the other thing is, you know, we have a golden opportunity because we've had the slow decline of the newspaper industry. That building and that site are now for sale. They weren't for sale a few years ago when we were contemplating other options. It won't be for sale again later. And, you know, we have seized great vision with our urban service area, with our historic districts, with our fairness ordinance, with our smoking vans. All of these things were highly controversial at the time. We look back on them and say, wow, that was great that you did that. This is not without controversy. And the negotiations will require, I'm sure, a lot of back and forth to make this exactly what we need. But this is an opportunity for us to, once again, do something that makes Lexington, by the way that it composes its government, a landmark. This is a parade route. This is a corridor that will stretch 20 miles from out in the country back to the country. And how wonderful for government employees to be able to really bike to work and have a great place to park their bike. I would love to see this happen. I think that there is a lot of opportunity to negotiate. and I would concur with anyone who says let's not do it after a few months of negotiation and we don't find that it has the components that we need. But having created the RFP ourselves as a city, it would seem a little odd to me to punt this without good faith negotiations. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Van Meter. Don Pratt. 912 Royal Avenue. It's ironic these kids are here and don't know that you're going to seal them with a long-term lease to purchase for 35 years with this kind of contract. It's ironic that Habitat was here, and I don't know what will be your solution or best solution, why not this building become affordable housing because there's not enough of that elsewhere my dad told me somebody else's quote it's not how you steal that is a crime no he said not if you steal that's a crime it's how you steal this This is a crime to take from the future what shouldn't be put on our kids. There are better solutions. There's no rush to do something like this. And it's also a famous quote from Martin Luther King, for evil to succeed, all it needs is for good people to do nothing. Well, I know good people do bad things. I'm not a judge of the people that speak for it or speak against it. I'm hardly a good judge of myself. And I know things are highly controversial in the past. I went up against a government that was far more highly controversial than this and killed thousands of people over there and from here these are the kind of damages that not shouldn't happen we should not be wasting this kind of money when there are other options and we should not be voting when we receive money from these people have special interest in this project and only a option to buy this building and use you to secure that debt don't use these kids that came in here don't use me we've got a better future than that and you have a better future than that even though you may be bad things doing bad people doing good things or good people doing bad things. It is evil, for evil to succeed, all it needs is for good people to do nothing. All right, thank you Don. Madam Clerk, I'll now ask you to please give us a second read and then I'll ask for a motion and then for discussion. Item number eight, a resolution authorized and direct the administration of the urban county government through the Office of the Mayor to negotiate a long term lease to own agreement and any other necessary related agreements or documents with CRM companies and any other necessary parties consistent with the parameters established in RFP No. 55 2017, New Government Center for a new government center city hall to be located at 100 Midland Avenue, all of which will require the additional final approval of the Urban County Council. Thank you, sir. All right, thank you, Madam Clerk. Is there a motion? No, second. Motion by Councilmember Stenet, second by Councilmember Farmer. All right, I'll now open the floor for discussion and call on Vice Mayor Kaye. Thank you, Mayor. I wanted to be the first to speak because I have significantly altered my thinking about what we ought to do. And I want my colleagues to know about that change before they take the opportunity to speak to this issue. First, I want to emphasize that my enthusiasm for this project remains undiminished. As does my belief that this proposal presents an unusual opportunity for the city. I appreciate all the people who came to speak in favor of this proposal. I echo most of those sentiments. I just wish more of my colleagues found those arguments convincing. I regret that the issue has become so divisive. And I regret that a significant number of my colleagues are either outright opposed to the project or at best ambivalent. By my count, four council members are solidly in support and would be highly likely to support the outcome of negotiations if we vote to proceed. Four council members are solidly opposed and unlikely to support the outcome of negotiations almost no matter what they bring us. Four council members have a variety of concerns and might be willing to support the outcome of negotiations if that outcome resolves the concerns that they have. The remaining three members have recused themselves. Because I have believed that this project is so important for the city, I have worked to develop a broad consensus in support of it. At this point, a broad consensus is clearly not going to be achieved, and it is questionable whether any final negotiated proposal would get support from the necessary eight council members. What is more likely is that we and the developer would spend time and money in negotiations whose outcome would likely be rejected. My best judgment at this point is that even if all the forces aligned, we would have a bare majority, eight members, in support. For a project of this scope and significance, that is not good enough. Until the last few days, I have not been willing to factor into my thinking the lack of a broad consensus and what that means for the ongoing work of the Council. Until today, I was prepared to vote yes on the resolution and hoped that seven of my colleagues would do the same so that we could proceed to negotiations. Today, for reasons I have stated, I believe that is not the right thing to do. Though I worked for and hoped for a better outcome, today I will vote no. Thank you, Mayor. All right. All right, thank you, Vice Mayor Kay. Does anyone else wish to speak to the motion? No one else wishes to speak? Council Member Brown, James Brown. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I mean, thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to say a few words before we voted. I know that my position on this has been that we shouldn't move forward, that we should explore all our options. And I say this all the time. I always say that I have an idea, but I'm willing to listen and stay open-minded to other folks' ideas, other people in the community's ideas. Since we started this discussion and started down this road, I've heard from a lot of constituents, downtown constituents, one we heard from tonight that are in support of moving forward. Even though I have some serious concerns about us moving forward, some of those concerns from my understanding and from my conversations could possibly be addressed in the negotiation, the first step towards or the next step in the process. So for that reason, I would consider the negotiations with CRM, but I still do have some concerns, and I think Council Member Masati's resolution that she brought forward actually gives Council a tool that it needs to be a part of the process. I know a lot of my comments at the beginning were about the process, not that I questioned the process or the integrity of the people in the process. I just thought council ought to have been a part of the process at the RFP level. But since that wasn't the case, I think from the resolution that was brought forward that council would be a part of the process going forward. So I'm interested in hearing what other council members have to say about it, but I've been open-minded to the proposal since we started talking about it. Thank you, Mayor. All right. Does anybody else wish to speak? Council Member Stenet. Thank you, Mayor, and I appreciate the opportunity to address this once again. Having heard what's been said tonight, I think it's a little short-sighted and fails that we need to mention that we had our government employees, head of engineering, head of diversity, head of building maintenance, head of our financial departments all come together on an RFP that we asked them to do and give us a recommendation it's a slap in their face not to move forward tonight and at least try negotiations we asked him to do the work they didn't volunteer we asked them to do their job and they did a job they did a recommendation and to stop now is a short-sighted and really lacks leadership. We still have other decisions to make. This is not an easy decision even tonight. But unless we get past tonight and are able to actually have a real conversation, not one council member up here knows the real cost of a new government building. You don't. You can say you do, but you don't. I know you don't. The public knows you don't because we haven't negotiated. So while I'm disappointed with what's been said from the Vice Mayor, I think it's short-sighted, and I think it's going to put this government behind ten years if eight of us don't sit here and agree to at least negotiate and move forward. And if you want to talk about a majority, eight of twelve is a majority. Last time I checked. Just because three people's recused this stage doesn't necessarily mean they have to recuse it during negotiations. So I think the full council at that point can be involved after tonight. And tonight, you're not giving those three council members a chance to be involved. You're not giving those three council members who are elected by their districts the opportunity to be involved in those negotiations. That's short-sighted. So I ask on behalf of the three colleagues that had to recuse because of the RFP to let them be involved after this. Let their districts be represented in negotiating a city hall that is financially feasible and we can move forward and do in the future. Again this is not an easy decision. We've talked about this and I've been around here the last 14 years talking about this. i've never seen something more clear than is tonight this is the right thing to do to move forward and get a real number then we can talk about is it financially feasible then we can talk about is that location really the best for traffic etc but let's get there we're not there yet of our employees who are head of every division we put a lot of confidence in them i got a lot of confidence in them i think we've lost sight of that it's their recommendation that we move forward and they present it to the council, and this is totally unorthodox from any other RFP we've ever done this way. And, Council Member Brown, I know, like you, yeah, I'd love to have been involved in the RFP, but, you know, the vice mayor made that decision for the council, and it's kind of ironic that tonight he's against the process now. So, you know, I've said what I need to say, but we need to move forward. It's the right thing to do, and it takes leadership and courage, and now's the time to show it. Council Member Fred Brown. Thank you, Mayor. I, too, have some reservations, just like my councilman or cousin Brown. And I had those reservations, and I even expressed them early on. But when I looked at all the facts and what took place, then I kind of stood back and looked at everything and the whole process. And we need to have a new city hall. And if we don't do it now, when will it be? And with the fact that we could negotiate and the council would get involved in the negotiation, and I would think that we could have a ruling there where all 15 members of the council would get involved in that, then we're really making the decision. This decision tonight is just to move forward to that negotiation stage. and I think it'd be short-sighted and I'm disappointed in the vice mayor because he's been lobbying for this thing for the last two months and some of his comments when he was even lobbying helped me to sort out and decide to support this. So listen, I've been on the council a long time and it's time for us to get a city hall. And if we drop this, then I don't know when we'll get to that point, and I think we're doing a big disservice to this community. Thank you. Council Member Bledsoe. Thank you, Mayor. I was only a couple years old when this building was moved into, and I hope to be here in 35 years, maybe not on the council, but at least present if this moves forward. And this is not an easy decision, and it's not been an easy topic to discuss. I had a town hall meeting in July of the summer and had 40-some people show up and spent two hours talking with them about the economics, why the RFP was decided, why we considered a P3 project, went through the economic indicators and results, and after two hours of debate, we jokingly said, well, raise your hand if you want to move forward. And out of that room, 75 said yes, 75%. And some people were kind of doing this, half up. And I said, what is your concern about moving forward? And they said, well, we have concerns about other things, like what happens to the downtown with those five buildings going up? How much will it cost? What will be the up fit? I said, well, those are all kind of phase two conversations. Those are things we talk about after we've made this decision. And they all said, and I can still vote no, the council can still vote no. If we can agree that this is the first step, how many of you are okay with moving forward with just this first step? The entire room raised their hand. The entire room. Minus one person. One person did not. Everyone said we owe it to the process, we owe it to the community, we owe it to this building, to our employees, and to simply fiscal responsibility to have a phase two conversation. That's what my vote will be tonight, to move forward. And I have, I respect the Vice Mayor and I respect your opinion on this. And I wish we had a council that had the aha moment. And I think for years, maybe 20 years, every council has been waiting for 15 people to say, yes, that's what we should do. And the problem is that's really hard to do. We've seen up here many times getting eight votes, getting 10 votes, getting 12 votes is sometimes very challenging on these issues. And I'm not sure we're ever going to get a location or a plan or a new city hall where 15 people say unequivocally, I'm in. I think we might be going for something that's just not feasible. That being said, I think we owe it to the process to at least continue with this option tonight, and I would encourage my colleagues to be supportive of at least the next plan. Thanks. Does anyone else wish to speak? All right. Okay. All right. Thank you, Mayor. I'll be voting for this resolution because I know it's the right thing to do and we're at a point now where really it doesn't have anything to do with any of you all in this room it has to do with the people up here and there's got to be a little miracle to get eight votes up here right now someone has to step beyond the bounds that they have previously said in public they've got to come down on the side of opportunity of conversation, of arbitration we've had the words best possible place we've had the words civic pride, we've had the words golden opportunity and in the court of public opinion this is a welcome idea it's a game changer of a certain thought but Lexington is it's like other entities it's a venerable place it values its veneration but there are times where you stand at the edge of leadership of decision and you realize that if you don't make that decision yesterday yesterday has won and tomorrow isn't as bright. That's where we stand right now. So I implore my colleagues, or at least one of the hard four, I guess, to use the vice mayor's term, give us the opportunity to continue the conversation. Give us the opportunity to find out what we can do. If we don't have votes for this resolution, the golden opportunity, the civic pride, the best possible place will not be anymore. Lessington enjoys its moment. And the moments we've had during the two terms of this mayor have been fantastic. This is one more of those moments. In my mind, it should be. It can be. But here in a few moments, we'll know for sure. But don't let yesterday win. Make tomorrow brighter. Thank you, Mayor. All right. Thank you, Council Member Farmer. I'm going to pass the gavel to Council Member Henson. Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to share my thoughts about where we've been and where we are today and the great progress, Mayor, that I think you have done with our city. I've just been a pleasure to serve on this council with you as the mayor and to have accomplished all the many things that we have done. Having said that, I don't support this for the main reason of the $5.1 million over the 35 years. Maybe we don't know that to be the exact number. Maybe, you know, I would suspect it might even be higher, but that is $178 million. I think about the money that we have spent to help the Lexington Center, for the Town Branch Trail, for the Senior Center, the Courthouse, all those wonderful things that have been done. But you're talking about money here that I believe would combine total $178 million. And then I had tried to say why I did not support this when there's a lot of people out here in support of it that I have a great deal of respect for. you know our former vice mayor who's just one of the loveliest ladies I've ever known and Van Meter Pettit and Holly Wiedemann before that and there's others that you know because we all care so much about our city as a council person I have a decision to make and this is my decision I respect the vice mayor's decision and those that choose to vote for this. But, you know, I just want to set the record that I have reservations, great reservations, although I'm 100% sure that this building we're in is not adequate, particularly for my friends with disabilities. It is the worst building. but I have to believe that we can do better than 178 million so thank you mayor thank you councilmember Henson councilmember Gibbs thank you mayor I gave you guys my timid dissertation a couple of weeks ago so I'm not going to go through the whole thing but I do want to say that I've agonized over this it hurts me deeply to be on the opposite side of many people I respect and many them good friends but um if this was the absolute right thing to do i would do it it's not that simple this is a very very difficult thing i i don't think anyone around here is acquainted with that intersection of maine midland and vine as i am i use it daily yesterday i used it three times twice on bike and once walking the intersection is very dangerous no matter what we do to it it won't fix it peggy just mentioned about the handicap one of our speakers earlier mentioned how wonderful that place be for handicapped people possibly for dropping them off once they get in the building and so on for handicapped person trying to get to that building if they were on Main Street on the south side of Main Street and wanted to try to get that building it's near suicide for somebody in a chair if somebody was blind they would have no opportunity at all someone else made the point that we need housing downtown that this place could be converted the housing that would be wonderful too I I think that herald leader site would be absolutely marvelous for housing and it would be much less impact because we one of the things I just say this briefly we were potentially looking at the mother of all traffic jams at nine and five with 600 employees coming to one access point twice twice a day and if we had housing there it'd be much less impact we could build something beautiful and so on and I'll just stop it right there but again I've no vested interest in this i'm just trying to do the very best things i also will say i've talked to dozens and dozens of my constituents and they're about evenly split on this some people have accused me of being opposed to it for uh political gain there's i would not do that anyway anybody knows me knows i don't play that game uh but my my constituents are absolutely split down in the middle on this and i'm doing this you know from my conscience and also you know from my my experience with that location which i know intimately uh thank you very much mayor thank you councilman gibbs i'll pass the gavel to the vice mayor and i have some comments thank you mayor i've listened carefully myself tonight to comments we've listened to comments for months actually and I appreciate Peggy what you said to say Councilmember Henson I appreciate what you had to say about the projects that we've been able to accomplish in the last few years and what I've come to know is that each of those projects that we've been able to initiate and actually accomplished they all had a common theme and that was consensus and that was a sense that we were doing this for the right reasons yes at the right time and we're moving forward and some of them if you remember we had to take a step back on and often take a deep breath and we had to re-examine. After Tuesday's work session it became apparent to me that we just do not have the necessary consensus today to move forward with negotiations. And I have to recognize that I've got a limited shelf life here of about four months or less. And I have to recognize that it would be unfair to the next administration to, in a sense, constrain that administration on an issue as significant as this one is. It would be unfair, and that's the reason that I think taking a step back is the appropriate thing. And I say all this while recognizing what many of you have said. The administration and the members of the working committee did a commendable job. They did exactly what was asked of them, and they did it by the book. And I applaud them, and I appreciate that. I'm proud of their work. This is difficult for many of us. I have believed in this project, but it deserves the consensus that we have had in the past on these significant projects, and it does not have it simply at this point. All right, that concludes my remarks. Does anyone else have anything to say? All right. All right. If not, then I'll ask we can call the question. Madam Clerk, you'll need to call the roll. Yes, sir. Ms. Bledsoe. Yes. Mr. Fred Brown. Yes. Mr. James Brown. Yes. Ms. Evans? Mr. Farmer? Mr. Gibbs? No. Ms. Henson? No. Vice Mayor Kay? No. Ms. Lamb? No. Mr. Maloney? No. Ms. Mossadi? No. Mr. Smith? No. and mr stinnett all right thank you madam clerk the motion motion fails all right that allows us to move to back to the regular order of agenda the docket ordinances for a second reading Madam Clerk, please give us ordinances for a second reading. Ordinance number one, an order is changing the zone from a planned neighborhood residential R3 zone for 0.42 net, 0.75 gross acres, and from a single family residential R1C zone for 1.41 net, 1.88 gross acres to a professional office P1 zone for properties located at 437-441-445-449-453 Parkway Drive and 1221 South Broadway, a portion of New Lexington the clinic PSC council district 11 item 2 an ordinance submitting section 2507 of the code of ordinances of the Lexington-Paderham County government to change the membership requirements for two of the 19 members in the commission of the Commission on Veterans Affairs item 3 an ordinance of main section 1410 F4 of the code of ordinances relating to citation officers to allow for code enforcement officers to issue citations for a violation of sections 18124 and 18129 of the code of ordinances item 4 an ordinance submitting section 18129 for The code of ordinances related to the parking of vehicles in any residential section to allow any citation officer to cite for violation of this section, item five. In ordinance, making certain of the budget selection of the federal county government reflect current requirements for funds the amount of $155 for the division of parks and recreation from neighborhood development funds to support overdose awareness day events. Schedule number eight, item six. In ordinance, making certain budget selection of the federal county government to correct budget related to purchase orders rolled to fiscal year 2019 and purchase orders expense to fiscal year 2018 and appropriating and reappropriating funds. Item 7, in order to amend the budget of the Lexington Fayette Urban County Government to reflect current requirements for municipal expenditures and appropriating and reappropriating funds. Code number 5. Item 8, ordinance of the council of the Lexington Fayette Urban County Government authorizing and approving the execution and delivery of a six supplemental lease agreement between the Lexington Fayette Urban County Airport Board as the lessor and the Lexington Fayette Urban County Government as the lessee in connection with the issuance of the Lexington Fayette Urban County Airport Board General Airport Revenue Obligation 2018 Series A Credit Note. Lexington-Fayette-Urban County Government general obligation evidencing a line of credit agreement buy-in between the Lexington-Fayette-Urban County Airport Board and Branch Banking and Trust Company in a maximum aggregate principal amount not to exceed $15 million for the purpose of providing interim financing for certain airport facilities at the Bluegrass Airport in Fayette County, Kentucky. Thank you, sir. Motion by Council Member Henson to approve. Was there a second? Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Did we get a second? Motion to approve on second reading ordinances. So I need a second. Thank you. Got a motion by Council Member Henson, seconded by Council Member Lamb to approve. Is there any discussion? All right. If not, Madam Clerk, please call the roll. Ms. Bledsoe? Mr. Fred Brown? Yes. Mr. James Brown? Yes. Ms. Evans? You can vote on. Yes, I believe in recusing from number 8. Is that where we are? No. This is ordinance. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Yes. I'm so confused right now. Thank you, ma'am. Mr. Farmer? Mr. Gibbs? Yes. Ms. Henson? Yes. Vice Mayor Kaye? Yes. Ms. Lamb? Yes. Mr. Maloney? Yes. Ms. Massadi? Yes. Ms. Plowman? Mr. Smith? Yes. And Mr. Sinnott? Yes, ma'am. All right. The vote reflects passage of the motion. Ordinances for first reading are next. Madam Clerk, please give us the first reading of ordinances. Item number nine, an ordinance amending certain of the budgets of the Lexington Bay and the county government to reflect the current requirements for municipal expenditures and appropriating and reappropriating funds schedule number six. An ordinance amending the authorized drink by abolishing three classified civil service positions of administrative specials, grade 513N, creating two classified civil service positions of administrative specialist senior, grade 516N, and one classified civil service position of administrative specialist principal, grade 518E, and reclassifying the incumbents in the division of revenue, abolishing six classified civil service positions of customer service specialist, grade 510N, creating five classified civil service positions of customer account specialist, grade 512N, and one position of customer account specialist, grade 514N, and reclassifying the incumbents in the division of government communications, effective at the beginning of the next pay period following the passage of council, and creating three classified civil service positions of administrative specialist, Scrape 513N, approved in the fiscal year 2019 budget process in the Division of Revenue, effective July 1, 2018. Item 11, an ordinance levying ad valorem taxes for municipal purposes for the fiscal year, July 1, 2018 through June 30, 2019, on the assessed value of all taxable property within the taxing jurisdictions of the Lexington Fayette Urban County government, all taxes on each $100 of assessed valuation as the January 1, 2018 assessment data as follows. General Services District, $0.0800 on real property, including real property of public service companies, $0.0915 on personal property, including personal property of public service companies, noncommercial aircraft, noncommercial watercraft, $0.1500 on insurance capital, $0.0150 on tobacco and storage, and $0.0450 on agricultural products and storage, full urban or partial urban services districts based on urban services available on real property, including real property of public service companies, $0.1426 for refuse collection, $0.0210 for street lights, $0.097 for street cleaning, $0.0920 on insurance capital, $0.0150 on tobacco and storage, .0450 on agricultural products and storage, abandoned urban property $1 in living an avalorum tax for municipal purposes at the rate of .0880 on each $100 of assessed value on all motor vehicles and watercraft within the tax and jurisdiction of the Lexington Fayette Air Mechanic Government as of the January 1, 2019 assessment date. Item 12, in order to adopting the request of the Lexington Fayette County Health Department under KRS 212.755 in levying a special ad and warrant public health tax for the fiscal year, July 1, 2018 through June 30, 2019 on the assessed value of all taxable real and personal property within the tax and jurisdiction of the Lexington Fayette Irving County Government. Including real and personal property of public service companies, noncommercial aircraft, noncommercial watercraft, and inventory and transit, and excluding insurance capital, tobacco and storage, and agricultural products and storage at the rate of $0.028 on each $100 of assessed value as of the January 1, 2018 assessment date. And levying a special ad and warrant public health tax at the rate of $0.028 on each $100 of assessed value on all motor vehicles and the tax and jurisdiction of the Lexington Bay Darby County Government as of the January 1, 2019 assessment date. Item 13. An ordinance loving and warm taxes for purposes of support of the soil and water conservation district for the fiscal year July 1, 2018 through June 30, 2019 on the assessed value of all taxable real property within the tax and jurisdiction of the Lexington Bay Darby County Government, including real property of public service companies at a rate of $0.0006 on each $100 of assessed valuation as of the January 1, 2018 assessment date. Item 14, an ordinance levying ad valorem taxes for purposes of support of the Agricultural Extension Office for the fiscal year July 1, 2018 through June 30, 2019, on the assessed value of all taxable real and personal property within the tax and jurisdiction of the likes of Baylor County Government. All taxes on each $100 of assessed valuation as the January 1, 2018 assessment date as follows. $0.0035 on all taxable real property, including real property of public service companies. $0.0041 on taxable personal property, including personal property of public service companies, non-commercial aircraft and non-commercial watercraft and excluding inventory and transit, insurance, capital, tobacco, and storage, and agricultural products and storage, and levying and ad valorem tax for purposes of support of the Agricultural Extension Office at the rate of .0032 on each $100 of assessed value in all motor vehicles and watercraft within the taxing jurisdiction of the Lexington Bay of the County Government as of the January 1, 2019 assessment date. Thank you, Mayor. All right, where are we? Dispension number 14. All right, thank you, Madam Clerk. Are there any motions for walk-ons or suspension of the rules for second reads? All right, if not, then, Madam Clerk, please proceed with the resolutions for a second reading. Yes, sir. Resolution number one. It's going to be a public hearing in a couple of weeks. That's an announcement. Okay. So there are no... Madam Clerk, please proceed. Yes sir. Resolution number one, a resolution authorize and direct the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute a purchase of service agreement with YMCA up central Kentucky for the operation of the 2018 Power Scholars Academy Summer Program at a cost not to exceed $30,000. Item two, a resolution authorize and direct the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute an agreement with Vocal Link Incorporated for interpreting services for the offender population for the division of community corrections. At a cost not to exceed $5,000. Item three, a resolution to accept and response of Aramark correctional services to RFP number 17, 2018 in the amount of $141,000 fiscal year 2019 for laundry services for the division of community corrections. And authorize the mayor to sign any necessary agreement related to the RP and services. Item four, a resolution establishing an authorized price contract for fiscal year 2019 for Grid Smart Technologies Incorporated as the sole source provider of omnidirectional three dimensional 3D vehicle detection equipment and maintenance services. And authorize the mayor or his designee on behalf of the Urban County Garbitech, any necessary agreements with Grid Smart Technologies Incorporated related to the procurement of these goods and services. Item five, a resolution authorizing direct the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Garbitech City Health Services, with marathon health llc for certain health care services offered at the sam brown excuse me samuel brown health center at an annual cost not to exceed 1 million 693 263 dollars effective upon passive council item 6. a resolution authorized the mayor on behalf of the urban county government tax union agreement awarding a class b in education incentive grant to cdp engineers incorporate for stormwater quality projects at the cost not to exceed 35 000 dollars item 7 a resolution authorized the mayor on behalf of the urban county government taxi agreements with 16th district pta care of hayes middle school 16 600 lexington area music alliance incorporated 1375 down syndrome association of central kentucky 950 historic woodward heights neighborhood association 555 16th district pta care of eighth and charlesburg elementary pta 1350 lexarts incorporated 290 feast on equality incorporated 510 fdhs track and field association incorporated 705 kentucky black pride incorporated 400 and american bloom lexington incorporated 1 000 For the Office of the Urban County Council, a lot of costs not to exceed the sum stated. Item nine, a resolution accepting the bid of Jay Ettinger and Son, incorporated in the amount of $16,691 for dump bodies for the Division of Facilities and Fleet Management. Item ten. Resolution ratifying the probationary classified civil service appointments of Robin Adams, Administrative Specialist Senior, Grade 516N, 23.468 Hourly in Department of Finance, effective September 17, 2018. Michael Jordan, Public Service Supervisor, Grade 514N, 24.130 Hourly in the Division of Streets and Roads, effective September 10, 2018. Levesque Construction Manager Grade 531E, 3538.47 biweekly in the Division of Water Quality, effective August 20, 2018. Mark Arnold, Deputy Director of Building Maintenance and Construction, Grade 529E. $4,021.67 biweekly in the Division of Facility and Fleet Management, effective September 17, 2018. Ratifying the permanent Classified Civil Service appointments of Mark Putty, Code Enforcement Supervisor, Grade 520E. 1926.72 biweekly in the Division of Grants and Special Programs, effective August 5, 2018. Grover Stewart Kearns, Planner Senior, Grade 521N, 30.404 hourly in the Division of Planning, effective August 20, 2018. ratifying the permanent sworn appointments of Nathaniel Muller, Police Lieutenant, Grade 317E, 3216.92, biweekly in Division of Police Effect of July 8, 2018. David Richardson, Police Lieutenant, Grade 317E, 3216.92, biweekly in Division of Police Effect of July 8, 2018. Brandon Helm, Police Sergeant, Grade 315N, 30.538 hourly in Division of Police Effect of October 17, 2017. Andrew Myatt, Police Sergeant, Grade 315N, 31.149 hourly in Division of Police Effect of April 2, 2018. Matthew Silver, Police Sergeant, grade 315N, 31.149 hourly division of police, effective July 8th, 2018. Item 11, a resolution amending resolution number 4, 2020, 17 to authorize the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to exceed an amended statement of work with Metaformers Incorporated to provide additional funding for the PeopleSoft Upgrade Project to facilitate extended functional and technical support services at an additional cost to exceed $304,000. Item 12, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to exit a two year agreement with Smart Systems for Dishwashing chemicals for the child care food program at the Family Care Center at a cost not to exceed $4,800. Item 13, a resolution authorized and direct the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute an amendment to the subrecipient agreement with the community land trust. Extending the period of performance for project completion through December 31, 2018 under the National Mortgage Foreclosure Settlement at no cost to the urban county government. Item 14, a resolution authorized and direct the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute an agreement with building I incorporated for the implementation of a data visualization application relating to the Excel software platform for the division of planning and the division of building inspection. at a cost not to exceed $40,000. Item 15. A resolution authorizes the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute a renewal agreement with Management Registry Incorporated, formerly known as Omnisource Integrated Supply LLC, for WebEOC coordinator services at a cost not to exceed $90,000. Item 16. A resolution authorizes and direct the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute an amended agreement with the Fayette County Public Schools, granting access to law enforcement network of Kentucky and FBI National Crime Information Center services to FCPS sworn law enforcement officers and telecommunicators on the 800 megahertz public safety radio communication system At no cost to the urban county government, item 17. A resolution to adopt and implement a section three plan is required by the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development requirements in Title 24, Part 135 of the Code of Federal Regulations, item 18. A resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute agreements with Lady Veterans Connect Incorporated, $840. Bluegrass Community Foundation, $1,050. Lexington Southeastern Little League, $875. Bluegrass Council of Boy Scouts of America, $1900. Leastown Middle School PTSA, $156. Good Shepherd Day School Corporation $200, LFUCG Division of Parks and Recreation $155 for the Office of the Urban County Council, the cost not to exceed the sum stated. And finally, Item 19, a resolution authorizing the Department of Law to institute condemnation proceedings in Fayette Circuit Court to obtain a permanent easement at 1505 Colesbury Circle for the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet New Circle Road widening project. Thank you, sir. All right, thank you, Madam Clerk. Is there a motion to approve the second reading of the resolutions? Second, I think first. Motion by Council Member Plumman, is there a second? Second. Second by Council Member Henson. Is there any discussion? All right, if not then Madam Clerk, please call the roll. Ms. Blitzo? Yes. Mr. Fred Brown? Yes. Mr. James Brown? Yes. Ms. Evans? Yes. mr farmer okay mr gibbs yes miss henson yes vice mayor kay yes ms lamb yes ma'am mr maloney ms masadi yes ms plowman yes mr smith yes mr stennett thank you sir all right thank you madam clerk vote reflects passage of the motion allows us to move on to resolutions for a first reading i think there's a question i think there's a question as to whether council member masadi should take her resolution off at this point in time or just wait until we get to that one during the readings i can i think you can do it either way i can remove it now wait wait what was it what was the point she had a resolution that she walked on on tuesday that was related to the government center issue that i think she would like to go ahead and remove from the docket all right i'll accept the motion so moved i wish my council member sidi second by council member James Brown is there any discussion on the motion that was it's item number 45 on your docket all right yeah all right all right there's no discussion then we can vote all in favor of motion please indicate by saying aye opposed no no all right Motion carries. So now we can continue with resolutions for our first reading. Yes, sir. Item 20, a resolution accepted the bids of Fouser Environmental Services, LLC, and McCoy and McCoy Laboratories, and corporate establishing price contracts for laboratory testing for water quality for the Division of Water Quality. Item 21, a resolution accepting the bid of Fuel Ban LLC in the amount of $468,888 for renovation of existing truck wash facility for the Department of Environmental Quality and Public Works, and authorize the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute an agreement with Fuel Ban LLC related to the bid. Item 22, a resolution accepting the bid of Detroit Salt Company establishing a price contract for treated rock salt for the Division of Streets and Roads. Item 23, a resolution of many field enterprises incorporated in the amount of $70,950 for lighting replacement and waste management for the Division of Environmental Services. Item 24. A resolution ratifying the probationary classified civil service appointments of Ronald Hinton Equipment Operator Senior Grade 512N, 60.247 hourly in the Division of Streets and Rows, Streets and roads, effective September 17, 2018. Phillip Walker, Recruitment Operator Senior. Grade 512 and 16.614 hourly in the Division of Streets and Roads, effective September 17, 2018. Joseph Markey, Electronic Supervisor, Grade 519E. 27.23.25, in the Division of Traffic Engineering, effective September 17, 2018. Elizabeth Arrington, Building Inspection Supervisor, Grade 521E. $2,015.20, biweekly in the Division of Building Inspection, effective September 17, 2018. Belinda Beach, Early Child Care Teacher, Grade 522E. 1340.56 biweekly in division of family services effective October 1, 2018. Christopher Towton, public service manager, 521E, $2500 biweekly in division of parks and recreation. Effective October 1, 2018. Juan Jackson, public service worker senior, grade 519N, 18.847 hourly in division of parks and recreation. Effective October 1, 2018, ratifying the permanent classified civil service appointments of Nicole Smith, customer service specialist, grade 510N, 15.809 hourly in division of government communications. Effective August 20, 2018. Kevin Dennis, Operations, Supervisor, Grade 518E, 2305.68 by Wakeling, Division of Streets from Rose, effective September 12, 2018. Christy Tipton, Staff Assistant, Senior, Grade 510N, 15.73 Hourly, Division of Police, effective August 20, 2018. James Bradley, Code Enforcement Officer, Grade 516N, 20.467 Hourly, Division of Code Enforcement, effective September 19, 2018. Jeffrey Poe, Code Enforcement Officer, Grade 516N, 22.040 Hourly, Division of Code Enforcement, effective September 12, 2018. Logan Van Arsdale, Code Enforcement Officer, Grade 560, 90.737, hourly in the Division of Code Enforcement, effective September 12, 2018. Ryan Wilgus, Vehicle and Equipment Technician, Grade 514N, 80.260, hourly in Division of Facility of Fleet Management, effective September 5, 2018. Carson Yates, Financial Coordinator, Grade 560, 90.803, hourly in Division of Grants and Special Programs, effective September 5, 2018. Ratifying the probationary sworn appointments, Trevor Smith, Community Corrections Sergeant, Grade 112N. 23.937 hourly in Division of Community Corrections, effective September 3, 2018, ratifying the permanent sworn appointments of Michael Tallby Police Sergeant, grade 305 and 31.149 hourly in Division of Police, effective July 2018, ratifying the unclassified civil service pay increase in the Office of the Air Mechanic Council, Kendra Thompson Research Analyst, grade 523E, from 2266.16 biweekly to 2557.6 times biweekly, effective September 3, 2018. Item 25. A resolution authorized in the Division of Human Resources to make a conditional offer to the following probationary classified civil service appointments. Michael Walker, public service worker, senior, grade 599, 15.301 hourly in the Division of Streets and Roads, effective October 1, 2018. Larry Grubbs, equipment operator, senior, grade 512, and 17.387 hourly in the Division of Streets and Roads, effective October 1, 2018. Robert Lewis, resource recovery operator, grade 513, and 98038 hourly in the Division of Waste Management, effective upon pass-up counsel. Stephen Kaufman, resource recovery operator, grade 513N, 70.106 hourly in the division of waste management, effective upon passative counsel. Larry Berry, resource recovery operator, grade 513N, 80.186 hourly in the division of waste management, effective upon passative counsel. Charles Arnsberger, resource recovery operator, grade 513N, 90.038 hourly in the division of waste management, effective upon passative counsel. Thelma Hargis, telecommunicator, grade 514N, 90.394 hourly in the division of emergency management 911, effective October 1, 2018. telecommunicator senior grade 517 and 21.069 hourly in the division emergency management 911 effective October 1, 2018. Paul Overby, telecommunicator senior grade 517 and 21.935 hourly in the division of emergency management 911 effective October 1, 2018. Elisa Hamilton, telecommunicator senior grade 517 and 20.724 hourly in the division of emergency management 911 effective October 1, 2018. Sarah Clark, staff assistant senior grade 510 and 50.208 hourly in the division of building inspection effective October 8, 2018. William Burge, mailroom clerk, grade 508 and $14 hourly in the general services commissioner's office, effective upon passage of council. Josh Ives, administrative officer, senior grade 526E, 2961.535 weekly in the division, excuse me, in the general services commissioner's office, effective upon passage of council, Lisa Grober, administrative officer, grade 523E, 2469.24 biweekly in the division of facilities and fleet management, effective upon passage of council and authorizing the division of human resources to make a conditional offer to the following probationary community corrections officer appointments, Trent Casey Bray, Cristina Calderon, Jonathan Gilbert, Matthew Howard, Caitlin Casey, Alejandro Martinez, Matthew Chapman, Jaleel Foster. All Community Corrections Officer Recruits, grade 109N, 15.384 Hourly in the Division of Community Corrections, effective upon passage of council and authorized in the Division of Human Resources to make a conditional offer to the following unclassified civil service appointments. Robert Peterson, Project Engineering Coordinator, grade 525E, 3461.55 biweekly in the Division of Water Quality, effective October 1, 2018. David Howard, Clinical Services Supervisor, grade 5 to core E, 2,500, 16 cents biweekly in the Division of Community Corrections, effective October 1, 2018. And item 26. A resolution authorized the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to exceed an agreement with the Professional Golfers Association of America to host the 2021 Boys Junior PGA Championship at Kearney Hill Golf Course from July 10th through 15th at no cost of the urban county government. Item 27. A resolution authorized and directed the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to approve an order with route wear for GPS services at a cost not to exceed $30,734.87. Item 28. A resolution authorized the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute an agreement order pursuant to RFP number 15-2018. with tetra tech incorporate from destination and design services for the west hickman wastewater treatment plant biological phosphorus removal improvements project at a cost estimated not to exceed 386 000 item 29 a resolution authorized mayor on behalf of the urban county government vaccine and agreement awarded pursuant to rp number 4 2018 with shroud tate wilson consulting engineers pllc for electrical construction documents and construction services for the material recycling facility upgrade project that is the cost estimated not to exceed 23 725 Item 30, a resolution authorized and direct the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute an internship agreement with the Bluegrass Area Development District designating the urban county government as a training site, providing workforce innovation and opportunity act funding for the operation of the coach fellowship. Item 31, a resolution authorized the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute all documents necessary for the purchase of permanent easements at 330 and 386 Waller Avenue for the sidewalk connectivity project and it costs not to exceed $6,800. Item 32, a resolution authorized and direct the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to accept a grant for the United States Department of Homeland Security which grant funds are in the amount of $47,618 federal funds in the 2017 Fire Prevention and Safety Grant Program for the purchase and installation of smoke alarms for households in high-risk neighborhoods, the acceptance of which obligates the Durham County Government for the expenditure of $2,380 as a local match, and authorize the mayor to transfer uncovered funds within the current budget item 33, a resolution accepting the response to Environmental Enterprises Incorporated to RFP No. 24-2018, Household Hazardous Waste Collection Event, Fall 2018, to stop-shake-fars contract with an amount not to exceed $71,451 and authorized and direct the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute any additional necessary agreements with the vendor related to the RFP. Item 34, resolution authorized and direct the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute a programmatic agreement with the Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Leastown Division for the completion of a historic preservation plan at no cost. The Urban County Government, item 35, resolution authorized and direct the mayor. On behalf of the Urban County Government to accept a grant from the Kaukei Board of Emergency Medical Services, which grant funds are in the amount of $10,000 for Commonwealth of Kaukei funds For the divisional fire and emergency services the exception of which is an obligate theorem kind of government the expenditure funds and authorize the Mayor transfer unaccompanied funds within the grant budget item 36 A resolution authorize and direct the mayor on behalf of your county government to execute purchase of service We're with Lexar's Incorporated commission installation of artwork on and along the south and drive corridor at a cost not to exceed $50,000 item 37 a resolution authorize the mayor may have their own county government to execute change order number one to the agreement with The Allen Company incorporated for the Wilson Downing Road drainage improvements project increasing the contract price by the sum of $42,717.50 from $951,165 to $993,882.50 and extending the date for restoration of two-way traffic from August 4th 2018 to August 11th 2018. Number 38. A resolution authorizing the division of water quality on behalf of the Airman County Government to purchase chemical test kits for the town branch on West Hickman wastewater treatment plants from a hop company and a soil source provider and authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Airman County Government to execute any necessary agreement with hop company related to the procurement and cost net to exceed $24,262 $.20, item 39, a resolution authorized the mayor on behalf of the room county government to execute change number two to the agreement with Banks Engineering Incorporated for the Southland Area Stormwater Improvement Project, increasing contract price for the sum of $7,500 from $441,115 to $448,615. Item 40, a resolution authorized the mayor on behalf of the county government to execute a site specific agreement with the Jessamance South Elkhorn Water District homes LLC and the city of Nicholasville to provide sanitary sewer conveyance and treatment capacity to the Nolan property phase 3 section 2 development in Jessamint County item 41 a resolution authorized the mayor on behalf of the government to execute a facility usage contract with the Fayette County Board of Education for space to host the extended school program and the recreational enrichment and learning program for the 2018-2019 school year at cost not to exceed $92,500 item 42 a resolution authorized and direct the mayor on behalf of the county government to execute supplemental agreement number one with the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet for the acceptance of additional federal funds in the amount of $5,760 for the runaway phase for the Oxford Circle Sidewalks Project, the acceptance of which obligates the urban county government for the expenditure of $1,440 as a local match. Item 43, a resolution authorized and direct the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to exceed a non-exclusive data sharing agreement with traffic technology services incorporated relating to traffic flow information in and around Fayette County at no cost to the urban county government. Item 44, a resolution authorized the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to exceed agreements with 16th District PTA, Care of Athens-Charlesburg Elementary PTA, $150. The Japan America Society of Kentucky Incorporated, $700. Joyland Neighborhood Association Incorporated, $1,175. Miss Kentucky Scholarship Pageant Incorporated, $700. Child Development Center of the Bluegrass, $1,150. Lafayette Track Booster Club Incorporated, $500. Transylvania Park Committee, $750. Cumberland Hill Neighborhood Association, $250. Gainesway Neighborhood Association, $500. Firebrook Estates Homeowners Association Incorporated, $1,000. Hill and Dale Neighborhood Association $500 and St. Peter Claver Church $200 for the Office of the Urban County Council at a cost not to exceed the sum stated. Thank you sir. All right thank you madam. Thank you madam clerk. Are there any motions? Are there motions for walk-ons or suspension of the rules for second readings? Council Member Stannett I believe you've got one. Yes sir mayor. Council members you have in front of you a resolution codifying our agreement with the state of Kentucky on the Lexington Center Convention Project the amendment to the agreement just codifies each each party's role between the city state and LCC and where the financing will ultimately come from now that it's all in place so I move to place on tonight's docket council meeting a resolution of the urban County Council authorizing and directing the mayor on behalf of the urban County government to execute an amended and reinstated restated memorandum of agreement with the Commonwealth of Kentucky Finance and Administration Cabinet and the Lexington Center Corporation related to the $60 million of funding from the Cabinet for the renovation, expansion, and improvement of the Lexington Convention Center previously approved by Resolution 222-2016, which amendments further establishes each party's obligations at no additional cost to the Lexington-Federman County Government. So moved. Motion by Council Member of the Senate. Is there a second? Second. Seconded by Councilmember Henson. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. If not, Madam Clerk, will you please read the motion? The vote, sir. The vote. Pardon? What did you say? Was that unanimously? Oh, I'll ask for a vote. Yeah, I'll ask for a motion to vote. I mean, I'll ask for the vote. All in favor of motion, please indicate by saying aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Now you can read. Thank you. Yes, sir. Thank you. Item 46, a resolution authorizing to direct the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute an amended and restated memorandum of agreement with the Commonwealth of Pitukey Finance and Administration Cabinet and the Lexington Center Corporation related to the $60 million of funding from the cabinet for the renovation, expansion, and improvement of the Lexington Convention Center previously approved by Resolution number 222 to 2016, which amendments further establish each party's obligations at no additional cost to the Lexington Bay and Urban County Government. Thank you, sir. All right. Are there any... All right, we've got a first reading on that, right? We got some more walk-ons. We got some more walk-ons? Yes. Okay. Got you. Council Member James Brown, are these walk-ons or suspensions? Walk-ons? Suspension. Suspension. Are there any more walk-ons? Council Member Lamb? Thank you, Mayor. I move to place on the docket for tonight's council meeting a resolution authorizing and directing the administration of the urban county government to take the appropriate steps to move forward with the construction of a new government center to be located on the Phoenix Park properties with regular progress reports and updates to be provided to the urban county council and the method of obtaining design and construction services and financing to be approved by the urban county council. So move. Motion by Councilmember Lamb and second by Councilmember Massadi. Is there any discussion on the motion? Hold your hand up for discussion on the motion. Vice Mayor Kay. Thank you, Mayor. Councilmember Lamb, this would commit this council to supporting that particular location right now? Is that correct? I don't mean to sound incredulous, but I am. No, yes, yes, that is my intention. I see. This property was discussed during one of the studies and was deemed as appropriate for building on. And so, therefore, I decided to at least give the administration an address, a property that we owned, much like the way that we went forward with the senior center when we addressed and found the property at Adler Park for us to be able to move forward on. And that is why I'm bringing this forward tonight. I see. Okay. So I guess my comment is, given what we've just been through, I could not support this. I can't imagine taking an action without looking now at what our options are, as opposed to picking one. Okay, I think that's it. It just does not make any sense to me. I'm sorry. Thank you, Mayor. Council Member Gibbs. Thank you, Mayor. I have some reservations about this. It's in my district. It's downtown, and it's just a little bit quick for me. I just found out about this evening. I'd be supportive of putting the committee to take a look at the site and see some of the pros and cons, but I'm going to have to vote against this motion. Thank you, Mayor. Anybody else? There's Council Member Stennett and then Council Member Plowman. Thank you, Mayor. Council Member Lamb, I appreciate the spirit of this. As I said a couple weeks ago, this was the site I wanted all along until we did the RFP last year. The issue with this site, though, is we owe the parking authority $3 million if we go there. We have to move police and county clerk somewhere. In 2007, when we made the deal to do that, they were moving across the street. So we don't have that option anymore. So I think there's a lot of problems next door. And I think unless you put the P3 also in there, because as I pointed out a couple weeks ago, and I think you were absent, but if we bonded ourselves, it counts against our debt service. If we do the public-private partnership, it does not. And I think that's a big deal. And I think that needs to be part of this discussion. So I agree with some of their comments. I think it needs to be bedded out a little bit more. I won't support tonight, but I appreciate your spirit because that's where I thought we should have been all along. But times change, as they did tonight. Who else? That was me. Anybody else? Councilman Plowman. Thank you, Mayor. And I concur with what was just said. I think it's awful fast and furious. And people will probably look at our council and our heads are spinning. so I definitely would put this off for a while and let's all kind of regroup thank you mayor anybody else wish to speak council member James Brown thank you mayor and I yeah I'll echo the same sentiment maybe it might be more appropriate to put it in a workshop I'm somewhat familiar with the site and the development but maybe all council members it would be beneficial to know what we're talking about so maybe we should have a workshop and introduce it Thank you, Mayor. All right. Anybody else wish to speak? Council Member Lamb. I appreciate this. And, you know, actually, I'm glad that we had this conversation. I realize that this is quick. I am, and I appreciate everybody's comments and input. And I would agree that I would be glad to put it into a workshop format. That way we all can be involved in the discussion. and I would be happy to do that. So I will be glad to change my motion. I will withdraw the motion to walk this on tonight, but I will change the motion that we could have a workshop so that we could further discuss this, if that is at the pleasure of this council, because I would like to see us move forward with a site and discuss it. so yeah do you accept my uh motion to withdraw and to motion move forward with the workshop councilman malzati and i'll just i'll second your new motion what well we don't have council reports right okay point taken i withdraw my motion and i will bring it up during the end so thank you sir during announcements all right here we go all right All right, the motion's withdrawn and the second's withdrawn, right? Okay. Councilmember, another walk-on? Yes, sir. Councilmember Massadi? I don't think this will cause too much heartburn. I move to place on the DACA for tonight's council meeting a resolution authorizing and directing the administration of the urban county government to develop a plan for the future use of the existing government buildings that would be impacted by a relocation to a new government center at City Hall. So moved. All right, motion by Council Member Masotti, second by Council Member Lamb. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right, all in favor of the motion, please indicate by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, no. No. All right, let's do a vote, electronic vote. is that a tie i don't have a vote yet for mr fred brown or miss evans pardon so the vote am i reading it correctly everybody's voted so the vote fails all right there any more walk-ons before i ask for suspensions all right then we can i'll ask for motions to suspend the rules for second reads um council member james brown thank you mayor i'll make a motion to suspend the rules and give second reading to number 30 it's a an execute a internship agreement with bluegrass ad for the coach fellowship program so move all right motion by council member james brown second by council member henson is there any discussion on the motion all right if not we can vote all in favor please say aye aye opposed no motion carries i'd also i got two more sorry yes um also make a motion to suspend the rules and give second reading to number 34. it's uh to execute an agreement with the veteran ferris medical center so moved motion by councilman james brown second by councilman henson is there any discussion all right if not we can vote all in favor please say Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. And Mayor, I'll also make a motion to suspend the rules and give second reading to number 44 NDF request. So moved. Motion on 44 by Council Member Brown, James Brown, second by Council Member Henson. Is there any discussion? All right, if not, we can vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Is that it? Yes, sir. Councilmember Lamb, do you have any? Or is that was from previous? Okay. Councilmember Henson. Thank you, Mayor. I'm going to spend the rules and give second reading to number 25, the conditional offers of employment. All right. Motion by Councilmember Henson on number 25. Is there a second? Second by Councilmember Plumman. Is there any discussion? All right. Is there any objection? All right. If not, then the motion passes. Councilmember Gibbs. Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to make a motion to suspend the rules and ask for a second reading on number 29. That's for some money for the recycling facility. This is at the request of the administration. So moved. Motion by Councilmember Gibbs. Second by Councilmember Henson. Is there any discussion? All right. Is there any objection to the motion? All right. If not, then the motion passes. All right. Do we have any more? Is that it? All right. Madam Clerk, whenever you're ready, please give us a second read on those. Close, John. Item 25. A resolution authorizes the Division of Human Resources to make a conditional offer to the following probationary classified civil service appointments. Michael Walker, public service worker, senior grade 599, 15.31 hourly in Division of Streets and Roads, effective October 1, 2018. Larry Grubbs, equipment operator, senior grade 512N, 17.387 hourly in Division of Streets streets and roads back to October 1, 2018. Robert Lewis, resource recovery operator, grade 513N. 90.038 hourly in division of waste management, effective upon passive council. Stephen Kaufman, resource recovery operator, grade 513N. 70.106 hourly in the division of waste management, effective upon passage of council. Larry Berry, resource recovery operator, grade 513N. 80.186 hourly in division of waste management, effective upon passage of council. Charles Arnsberger, resource recovery operator, grade 513N. 90.038 hourly in division of waste management, effective upon passive council. Thelma Hargis, telecommunicator, grade 514N. 19.394 hourly in the Division of Emergency Management 9-1-1 effective October 1, 2018. Antoine Mazden, telecommunicator senior grade 517 and 21.069 hourly in the Division of Emergency Management 9-1-1 effective October 1, 2018. Paul Overby, telecommunicator senior grade 517 and 21.933 hourly in the Division of Emergency Management 9-1-1 effective October 1, 2018. Lisa Hamilton, telecommunicator senior grade 517 and 20.724 hourly in the Division of Emergency Management 9-1-1 effective October 1, 2018. clerk staff assistant senior by the 10 and 15.28 hour division of building inspection effective october 8 2018 william burgess mailroom clerk grade 5 and 14 hours hourly in the general services commissioner's office effective upon passage of council josh ives administrative officer senior grade 526 e 296 1.53 bi-weekly in the general services commissioner's office effective upon passage counsel lisa grover administrative officer grade 523e 2469.24 bi-weekly individual facilities and fleet management effective upon passage of council and authorized individual human resources to make a conditional offer to the following probationary community corrections officer appointments to the current casey breakers she called around jonathan gilbert matthew howard caitlin casey alohandr martinez matthew chapman jaleel foster all community corrections officer recruits grade 109 and 15.384 hourly in the division community corrections effective upon passive counsel and authorizing the division of human resources to make a conditional offer to the following unclassified civil service appointments robert peterson project engineering coordinator grade 525 e 346 to 1.55 weekly individual water quality effective october 1 2018 david howard clinical services supervisor grade 524 e 2500.16 by weekly in division community corrections effective october 1 2018. next is item 29 a resolution authorized the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to exceed an agreement award pursuant to rp number 4 2018 with schrute tate wilson consulting engineers plc for electrical construction documents and construction services for the material recycling facility upgrade trade project at a cost estimated not to exceed $23,725. Item 30, a resolution authorized and direct the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute an internship agreement with Bluegrass Area Development District, designating the election of the urban county government as a training site, providing workforce innovation and opportunity act funding for the operation of the coach fellowship. Item 34, a resolution authorized and direct the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to exceed a programmatic agreement with the Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Leastown Division for the completion of a historic preservation plan at no cost to the Urban County Government. And finally, item 44. A resolution authorized the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Government to execute agreements with 16th District PTA, Care of Athens-Charlesburg Elementary PTA, $150. The Japan America Society of Kentucky Incorporated, $700. Joyland Neighborhoods Association Incorporated, $1,175. Miss Kentucky Scholarship Pageant Incorporated, $700. Child Development Center of the Bluegrass, $1,150. Lafayette Track Booster Club Incorporated $500 Transylvania Park Committee $750 Cumberland Hill Neighborhood Association $250 Gainsbury Neighborhood Association $500 Firebrook Estates Homeowners Association Incorporated $1000 Hill and Dahl Neighborhood Association $500 St. Peter Claver Church $200 for the Office of the Urban County Council and a cost not to exceed the sum stated Thank you Mayor Motion by Council Member Henson to approve Second by Vice Mayor Kaye. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right, if not then Madam Clerk please call the roll. Ms. Bledsoe? Mr. Fred Brown? Yes. Mr. James Brown? Yes. Ms. Evans? Mr. Farmer? Yes. Mr. Gibbs? Yes. Ms. Henson? Yes. Vice Mayor Kay? Yes. Ms. Lamb? Yes ma'am. Mr. Maloney? Yes ma'am. Ms. Massadi? Yes. Ms. Plowman? Yes. Mr. Smith? Yes. Mr. Stinnett? Yes. Thank you sir. All right thank you madam clerk. The vote reflects Next passage of the motion allows us to move on to announcements. I'll open the floor to council members for announcements. Council member Lamb. Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate all of my colleagues' comments. I do really respect everybody's thoughts on this. So I would like to move to schedule a workshop for September 27th at 4 p.m., which is prior to our next council meeting, which is two weeks from now, to discuss the location for a new government center on the Phoenix Park properties. I so move. Motion by Council Member Lamb, second by Council Member Massadi. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right, then we can vote. All in favor of the motion, please indicate by saying aye and voting electronically. And opposed? No. All right. Motion passes. All right. I don't have a vote for Mr. Senate. Pardon? Thank you, sir. He just voted. Thank you, sir. You have one now? Yeah. Okay. All right, next is a fire disciplinary item. I'm going to ask Assistant Chief Gosper or Chief Wells. Thank you, sir. On Monday, March 26, 2018, an allegation was made that firefighter Penn Edward violated UDG 2.01 conduct unbecoming. At the conclusion of the investigation, the employee met with Chief Kristen Chilton and has accepted an eight-hour suspension. This discipline has also been approved by Commissioner Armstrong. All right. Thank you, Officer. Motion by Council Member Henson to approve and second by Council Member Stenet. Is there any discussion on the motion? All right. Hearing none, then we can vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. public comments next thank you thank you chief public comment is next bernard johnner and members of the council for the record my name is bernard mccarthy my address is 515 Harry Street. Most of you already know that for all the years I've nagged you. But I wanna say that there seems to be no rhyme or reason to which intersections have been changed from signal control to all-way stop control. When you had signals, at least half the traffic would catch the light green. When you go to always stop, everybody has to stop. So I think you're causing people to burn more gasoline because it takes a considerable amount of energy to put a stopped vehicle back in motion compared to if it had remained in motion all along. And I'm thinking that that, I may be wrong, but I'm thinking that the extra fuel to put those extra vehicles back in motion is greater than any fuel saved by a reduction in idle time if you get everybody restarting faster after they've stopped. So I'm just wondering why the changes and why some of the places they are. Is somebody trying to deliberately goof up our street system on the north side of town to make north side traffic as bad as south side. All right, thank you, Bernard. I don't have anyone else to sign on for public comment. All right, motion to adjourn by Council Member Stennett. Is there a second? Unless there's objection, we are adjourned. Thank you. I need some love touch.