Hope to see you. We have a couple items on the agenda today. The first one is the solid waste roll cart enforcement with Councilmember DeCamp. Mr. DeCamp, are you ready? Yes. Okay, let's begin with that one, if you would, please. All right. This was a suggestion put forward by a group called Community Roundtable, which is made up of some neighborhood people who are looking at more efficient ways to do some things that we've been doing in the past. One of the things that they have been recommended that we look at the solid waste rollout cart enforcement based on the premise that we don't have a very good ordinance as to the enforcement of carts that are left out, that are spilled over, whatever it might be, that it just isn't strong enough, especially in the area around the university where we have a lot of students living and you see carts. The other thing is where carts are not put in the right place, they block sidewalks and this kind of thing. So based on what they've looked into, I put this in the Services Committee, and Paul, I think you were, did we get anybody from solid waste? Oh, we have Ms. McFadden. Would you like to come to the microphone, please? Welcome. Hello. Yes. Well, you know, I don't know the next step to take, Penny, is to look at this. I think the enforcement end of it is what they were really concerned about, and other people in the community are concerned about, is how we can beef up the enforcement and possibly beef up the amount of fines that need to be paid so that people will know that we are really serious about trying to have a program with our rollout carts and get them back in time and that they're put in the right places and so on and so forth, and who is to be fined, whether it's the occupant or the owner of the property, these kind of things, because in many areas in the city, it's not been effective. And I don't know whether it's because the fines are too low, whether it's cumbersome the way we do the fining process, or there aren't enough people to actually follow through on this or whatever it may be, but I think it's a situation that we need to look into and hopefully come up with some suggestions, and these suggestions, if we feel that they're legitimate, could be incorporated into the enabling legislation. So that's what we're looking at. Having talked to Steve Feese, who's the Director of Waste Management now, he did mention that one of the problems that we have is that we probably don't have enough folks to go out and to do much more than react. So instead of being able to go out and be proactive and go visit places, we kind of are limited in that we go out if there are complaints, and that's been a little bit of a problem. And then the other things that you mentioned, we do try to go after the occupant first, which in itself is a little bit of a problem, because sometimes it's difficult to find out who the occupant is. And then we have the fines, but if the occupant just moves out and somebody moves in, especially in an area that's high rental property, it's hard to really to actually make a dent with them because they just move on to some other place, or if they don't pay the fine, we can ask them to come to court, but there's nothing we can get them on. There are a couple of the other ordinances that we have that relate to illegal set-outs and stuff where we can go after the property owner, and then if the fines aren't paid, we can place a lien on the property. And we wanted to do that with the Herbie, and it just didn't work out that way, but that would be a thought that maybe we could, you know, if the fines weren't paid and the people didn't come to court, then we could place a lien on the property. Could you just give a couple-minute overview about what the responsibility of the homeowner or the person that puts out the roll card and what time and what their responsibility is, if you don't mind, just so people that are watching would know in case they're not sure? Generally, 7 o'clock the night before, and I think when the time changes and it gets darker, we have lowered the time a little bit, and I can't remember exactly what that time is. It's something like 5.30, 6 o'clock, so that people didn't have to worry about waiting until after 7 to go out, but in the spring, summer, and fall, it's after 7 o'clock, and then the next day, you need to have it in by 7 o'clock. So it's kind of the 7-7 rule. Mr. DeCamp? Well, you know, I would like to see if Waste Management could come back to us with some firm suggestions on how we could make this a stronger ordinance so that we can begin to really get some of these roll cards taken off the streets at the proper time, and that we could create some sort of situation that will have more meaning than we have now. As far as, I mean, I know in the 3rd District, in certain areas, there's nothing that really we can follow through on that means anything, and I think many of the property owners or many of the occupants realize this, and I would just like to find out what other cities have that might be able to lead us in a direction of coming up with something which is stronger. So I would, at this point, like to just not certainly make any motion, but make a suggestion that Waste Management, you know, work with the Council Office in trying to come up with some other regulations from other cities, and come back and report back to us in ways that this might be improved. I think there's a lot of room for improvement, and I know we need to be looking at the responsibility of the owners of the properties, and when you have a multi-unit situation where you've got, you know, ten people living there, who do you find? We can't go in and say which one of you individually has the responsibility of rolling the card out and rolling the card in at the proper time. So I think there must be a better way of doing it, and I would like to hear back with something more specific on Waste Management, as I say, working with our office and seeing if we can't come up with some suggestions to improve this. We agree, and we'll be glad to do some research on what other cities are doing in trying to make some suggestions. I know one problem we ran into last time when we were looking at this, the KRS that allows us to have this administrative process limited us in some ways on the amounts of fines that we could do, but we'll go back and look at that because I can't really remember what the limit was, but we'll come back with some information for you. Okay, I think we just leave that on the table, and we'll follow through on this, and hopefully in the next month or two, come back to the Services Committee with some recommendations. Sounds good. We have a couple of questions. Mr. Beard? Thank you, Chairman. Granny, the private haulers, I assume that they, too, fall under this ordinance. Well, actually, we've asked for a legal opinion on that, and several years ago, I got that, and they told us that, no, they did not fall under this ordinance, that it was only for urban county government garbage collection. It has something to do with the 115 Fund and the personnel that's doing it. The other problem that if, under the current system with the private haulers, it would be difficult, even if we could enforce it, because on one street, there may be three private haulers that go on that street, and they may have three different collection days, so we have no idea what their collection days are and when the carts are supposed to be out and not supposed to be out. Well, that somewhat diffused my second comment, which means that because I am serviced by a private hauler and I'm serviced on Thursdays, that there are at least two Thursdays each month where I would be a violator myself because of council meetings and the meetings that lead up to council meetings. Are you going to get a further clarification on that, or is that pretty much the way it's going to be? I can ask again and make sure, but I believe that's the way it's going to be. Now, you know, one of the management partners, the audit that came out, one of the suggestions was that we franchise our private collection, and I don't know if that's going to go anywhere or not, but if we did, then that would give us an opportunity at that time maybe to deal with the private area. Okay. I really wasn't — if I got a pass on those two Thursdays, I really don't care what we do the other days, I guess. Well, and to be honest with you, even if we beefed up the enforcement and we beefed up the ordinances, I don't imagine that we're going to be waiting at somebody's door, you know, at five after seven, like you said, on Thursday night or anything. It's really to get those places, and I'm sure Mr. DeCamp will agree, is to get those places where the herby sits out for days and it's never taken back in, and they're always in the sidewalk, they're always in the way, they cause an eyesore. And that's what we're really looking for, not just somebody that, you know, happened to work late one night or something. So, I don't think that would really be an issue, and I think that's what people are afraid of, but that's not what we're looking for, because I don't really foresee us ever having anybody out at night looking to see if the herbies weren't put back that day. It's kind of like the dog barking, though. We may not want to do that, but their next door neighbor may want to do that to them. Thank you very much. Mr. Blevins. Thank you, Chair. Penny, could you describe for us what you all do do today? For example, how many personnel are assigned to enforcement of this? Let's see, Steve's here, and he probably does this on a day-to-day basis and probably be able to answer that question a lot better than I could. I think he just did. Was that a raise your hand to comment, or is one? One is the answer. That's what I thought. I wanted to just double check. And it's a fact that we do give warnings first in many cases. There's a little door hanger you use, is that correct? No? I think they actually, before they're ever fined, I think they're fined on the third occurrence. Would you come ahead and give us the information if you don't mind? Would you like to come up? This is Charlotte Turley, our loan officer. Hello. Hello. First of all, when I get the complaint, I go out to that address, and if the container is out there, I tag it, I do the ticket, then I put the tag on it, and I take a picture of it. This is our enforcement violation ticket. You receive two of these. On the third time, I actually issue you a civil penalty. This side is in Spanish, and the other side is in English. And what we do, when I come back to the office, the staff assistant, she will send the property owner a copy. He actually gets the copy of this violation ticket to know that there's a problem going on in his property. So he gets the letter and the actual copy. The actual tenant gets another letter stating, that's why you got your ticket on your container, because basically this letter. So once they get two, and on the third one, I usually issue, I do issue a civil penalty. The fine, it states from $15 to $75. Now, if you appeal it, it runs higher. But if you don't appeal it and just pay it, where we have some people that just pay it, and then we have a lot of people that complain why the fine is so low. It's more than likely why we have such persistent offenders all the time, because they come in and pay the fine and that's it. So one of the biggest, I think, issues may be to look into maybe raising the fine, because the maximum fine is really $50 if you pay it. And if you appeal it, then the fine is $75. So the maximum fine you could get if you were third, fourth, fifth, whatever repeater, is going to be $50 if you don't appeal it, $75 if you do appeal it. So it's an ongoing process. But I have found that in some areas, specifically the UK area, it's getting a little bit better, because until I think I came on board March 2006, and at that time we started actually sending the property owner a copy of it, where now he's become a little bit more proactive in saying, look, you know, you are causing me to get these letters or whatever. And hopefully we can get with the property owners before the school starts and maybe give them some information on what you need to tell your students. We have all the information they need at Solid Waste, telling them what days your collection is, refrigerator magnets, all type of things. But we would like to hopefully the property owner would include in his lease some type of statement saying, you know, your pickup day is this day. You need to have your containers in off the street at that time. So if they can include maybe in their application process, I think that would help in the UK area. And then not just the UK area, we have a problem all over Lexington. From 2006 to 2008, I started March 2006, and from 2006 to 2008, I wrote 2,300 tickets myself. 682 were in the UK area. So the problem is a big problem in the UK area. But we also have other areas of town that are problem areas, too. Right. I'm glad you said that because it touches every district in this town. I'm getting calls. I'm sure everybody else up on the dais here is as well. One other quick follow-up I wanted to ask is what's your experience when you do issue your first ticket, out of 100 folks, do, you know, 50% of them go ahead and cease being a problem? Or what's your experience today? Well, basically, I would say probably 70% adhere to the tickets. Usually on the second one, they know if they get the third one, it's a penalty. So pretty much the real caring areas are not really, we have the same areas that have the problems, but a lot of times it's a different address. I mean, I may go out to the UK area because I feel like they need to be educated. One of the main problems with this, which I'm glad I'm up here to say this, the biggest problem we have with this roll car container problem is it really didn't start getting really aggressively enforced, I guess, within the last two years. So I get a lot of people saying, well, I've been here all my life. When do they start enforcing the rollout containers? So I think we need to do an aggressive campaign and seven to seven, we could do a promotion seven to seven rule because a lot of people I run into, they don't know that we are now enforcing this ordinance. Then we have a lot of people from other counties, other states and cities, as well as UK students, they don't know our collection procedures. And when I do go up to a home to issue a violation ticket, I like to kind of educate too. I do a lot of educating the community because I just don't want to just be giving you a ticket, you not knowing why. So a lot of times I go up and I knock on the door and I happen to look at a license plate. They may be from New Jersey, Ohio, whatever. They may not be aware of our refuge collection procedures. So I think we really need to do something to reeducate, inform the citizens of Lexington. Yes, now we are enforcing this ordinance. And if you don't adhere to it, then there will be a possible penalty or fine. Alright, well thanks for sharing your experience and thank you Mr. DeCant for bringing this forward. I think it's a great idea and I look forward to what we have next month. Ms. Hinson, thank you Charlotte. Probably best to answer my question. I just wanted to know how many complaints would you say on the average you get a day? It varies. As the students move in the UK area or move out, those complaints are quite a few every day. On a daily basis, I would say maybe 5 or 6, 7 or 8. It just depends. And then, how many citations would you say that you give? A week? Yeah. Or a day? Well, it depends. It really varies. Some weeks I might say today, I only did 4 so far. Some days I go out and that person may have been on vacation. He may have had an emergency or working late. So when I go to that area, it's not out. So every complaint I get, I have to go there and if the container is not out, then I still have to complete it out. It just depends. The winter time is kind of slow because I give tickets year-round. Winter, rain, snow, whatever. I've got little plastic bags. I fold the ticket up so you can be sure and get it. So it just depends. And then, are the fines paid directly to Solid Waste? Yes, they are. Okay. Because I was thinking about maybe the possibility if it could become self-supporting in some way with fines, that would reduce it. If the fines, say they could cover your salary or something like that. And then eventually over time, maybe that would reduce. But if you had time to do some sweeps, like you know, pick-up days on Thursday, then on Monday you do a sweep through the area that had their pick-up on Thursdays and if the containers are still sitting there. Right. I have a monitor's list where some of the problem areas, Waller Avenue is a cut-through so I'm always in that area. And even if it's not on my violation sheet, I still get those areas and work those. So do you record the number of citations given and the amount of money that it brings in? It hadn't lately brought in a lot of money because after that second ticket, it seems like people are getting the message. But like I said earlier, the number one problem that I get from the citizens are, when did you all start doing this? I've lived here forever. I've never knew about a 7-7 rule or when did you start enforcing it? So I think we need to probably re-educate. Okay. Yeah, and I do think Solid Waste does a great job communicating with people, you know, it's like with the rosies and the recycling and everything, you do a great job. So thank you very much. You're welcome. Can I just do a follow-up on that? So yours is mostly complaint-driven, you're not going out looking yourself and seeing somebody that's violating. Yours is if somebody contacts you and that's when you go check on it? Mine is complaint-driven, but I also do areas that are not complaint-driven. The U.K. area I know is a problem. If I'm on one street and I see another street adjacent to it that looks pretty bad, I will go out and take care of that. So mostly the complaint-driven, but I guess what Penny said, it sometimes makes it difficult as some is private and some is public haulers on knowing what day is which day's pickup. Do you have a list of knowing which streets are which so you'll know that, yeah, this person is in violation when actually they could not have been in violation because it was a private and it was different than the other? Well, that's really not hard to distinguish because most of the streets that have private haulers, I mean the whole street is, what I've experienced, the whole street may be BFI or M&M, so I don't touch that street. So I really don't have a house here. Now I do have a street here that may be serviced by us and then the next street beside it is private. So then I have a lot of complaints about that. Why can't we enforce M&M or BFI containers out? Because they, you know, they do make our streets look bad also. Dr. Blues had a question. Actually, I don't have a question. I just wanted to thank Charlotte Turley for the magnificent job that she does every time that I've had a request and made a call. She has been there and has followed up, has followed up with me and I know we can do more perhaps in terms of enforcement and I like the suggestion about better education, but I'm really glad, Charlotte, that we have you on the job. It's a big help to us. I think this is something we probably could get on Channel 3 that we could let people know just to make, because I think education is the key and let people know what the times are and that's why I wanted to reinforce it earlier, but I think if we get something on there saying this is what time they need to be put out and this is what time they need to be brought in, I think people do a better job probably. I did two shows already. Great. All right. Well, good. Thank you all and we'll look forward to getting the information back from you, Penny. Thank you. The next item on the agenda is the Zandale Stormwater Ditch Update. Mr. Beard. Thank you, Chairman. This whole issue of the Zandale Ditch and I'm making an assumption that everybody knows what the Zandale Ditch is, but it is an open concreted creek, I guess for lack of a better term, that surfaces for about three blocks on Zandale Drive and is encapsulated by guard rail, which is somewhat aged. It works well, I guess, as a stormwater movement facility, but at the same time it has the same problems any of our other streams have in that it is contaminated and trash collects in it. Many different species of vegetation volunteer to sprout up and die and sprout up and die and it's very much of an eyesore. The Zandale Neighborhood Association asked me to take a look at this and I have and we've had a meeting. Mr. Morgan McElwain, who is here today, has asked me to take a look at this. The Zandale Neighborhood Association, for the association, gave some drawings or renderings of various options that we might have. Of course, the people that live on Zandale Drive would like for us to figure out some way to tear it all out and bury it, so that they could have a normal street like almost everybody else has, but I'm afraid that might not be in the cards because of the expense. I think we have representations in your packet of the various options. If Mr. McElwain would go to the microphone and talk to us a little bit about it, I'd appreciate it. Welcome. If you give your name and your address, please, for the record. Yes, my name is Morgan McElwain. I'm a landscape architect here in Lexington. I live at 535 South Upper Street, apart from 216. Thank you. Welcome. I guess it's been a little bit over a year ago I was contacted by the Neighborhood Association. We were asked if we would be interested in helping them out and looking at the issues that related to the ditch. At the time, they approached us primarily from a visual point of view. What could they do to improve the visual quality of the street, taking Zandale Drive and making it a more pleasant option, I guess, and ways of integrating trees and those sorts of things. So within our office, we kind of had a little design charrette and developed some different scenarios, and I think probably you have copies of those concepts. As these ideas evolved, we also looked at the issue of stormwater quality in addition to how could we make this more than kind of a multi-use project, if you will, in terms of improving issues of stormwater quality and those sorts of things. So as we developed this, we came up with several scenarios, principally that one was to actually encapsulate, if you will, the entire ditch into a large box culvert and to put a top on it and then put trees over the top of it. And I think there is a sketch, I assume, that you have in your packet that illustrates that option. We looked at another option, which was to really take and find ways that we could integrate this water quality issue. The thing about a box culvert is that it certainly is very efficient in terms of moving the water in a concrete channel down the street and into the stream system, but it really doesn't do anything in terms of enhancing water quality, in terms of maybe slowing that down or providing a means for integrating riffles and other kinds of things. The idea is to slow the water down a little bit so that you can get some settling out and get some water quality benefits of the things like the heavy metals and oils and those sorts of things, and then using biofiltration with plant material as a way of enhancing water quality. So we looked at some concepts to do that, and one of them was an idea that we would integrate street trees and a series of planters. In certain areas of that ditch, it's fairly steep. Other areas, it tends to flatten out. The idea was to use the trees as kind of a strong visual element, but also to find a way that we could create riffles, if you will, and pockets in the channel for water quality and those sorts of things. So we are landscape architects, not engineers, but have enough of an understanding of kind of some of the issues that will be involved in this, and so we feel that the concepts we came up with are workable. We met with the neighborhood group and kind of went through that, and then they set up a meeting with Julian, and I believe we met with a representative from the Division of Engineering at that time and kind of presented those ideas. Paul had called me the other day and asked for me to take a look at, and believe me, these are ballpark numbers, because all we have generated to date are the sketches that you see in your packet. But we were able to kind of price, if you will, the various scenarios to give you a sense of the scale of costs that we're talking about. And the first one was if you took those three blocks and enclosed them with a box, a concrete box culvert, put a lid on top of it, develop a zone for planting and putting trees and so on and so forth on top of that. And that incidentally turned out to be the most expensive option, which is not surprising. These numbers include the numbers I'm going to give you are budget level numbers. They're very conceptual. We don't have detailed design drawings. It's kind of our interpretation of how we think it would be developed. We have also included demolition of the existing ditch and probably repaving of that section of Zandale Drive because of the, depending on the level of construction, we would anticipate that probably needing to be done. But we've also included contingency. I'll call it a design contingency or a budget contingency, along with what I'll call soft costs, which would be design fees, lay work, permits, sort of things that we would probably have to go through in terms of to give you an idea of what not just the construction costs of something like this would be, but potentially what the entire project would cost. And that, the box culvert option was $5.7 million. The option C, which is a combination of both the box culvert and the, I'll call it the planter pits or the tree pits, which involves more of the biofiltration concept that we talked about, that because we were reducing the amount of box culvert dropped the overall project cost to around $3.4 million. If you were to do the entire thing out of the biofiltration concept, that reduces the overall project cost to just a little bit under $2.8 million. Needless to say, in all scenarios, it's a fairly expensive project. We also looked at some other options, although we did not price those at this point, which involved less, I'll call it, in other words, less than $2.8 million, which would in other words, it looked at a way of taking the guardrails and doing things that you could do it on more of a minimal basis. And while I didn't develop costs for those, that is something that we could look at. But the one thing that you don't really get there is you don't get the benefit of the biofiltration issues or any of the stormwater management issues that the other option, in this case option B, which is the planters and the biofiltration give you. So, again, this is, at this point, it's very conceptual. I purposely have tried to estimate high because I think it's important to, you know, it's always better if project costs go down as you develop, but at least you get an idea of kind of what the budget level is of the various options. So. Thank you. I appreciate coming up with those figures. I'm not sure how we'll come up with those figures, however. You know, it's not, I guess, Don, over in your area, you have a similar parallel type of a situation on Lafayette Parkway. And probably some of the same problems. You don't have the guardrails, however. And they have, you know, that's been there for 60 years, I guess, close to it. And I would guess Zandale, I'm not sure when Zandale was developed, but it was probably late 50s sometime. Yeah, I would think. So most anybody can do that math. I don't know if there's any baby steps that can be taken. I know that these numbers here are, especially in this day and time with the budgetary constraints we have, that we can do anything of this scope. But there might be some baby steps that we can take, at least with the guardrail. And maybe the association can come up with some minimal plantings of some sort to kind of soften the look of the guardrail. And maybe that's the path we need to originally look at. And we did talk with them about we did talk with them about, you know, coming up with cable guards and things like that, that we could limit. In other words, we wouldn't modify the channel significantly. And I could certainly be happy to come back with those numbers to you. We did not estimate all of that, but it would be easy enough to do. The other option is to think about, I know during our discussions there was the possibility of talking about phasing this and doing it as a demonstration project. You know, those are options that were discussed with engineering. So, you know, whether or not there's funding for that level of... I guess at the time it was conventional wisdom to do it this way. But again, in my opinion anyway, it's not going to get any better over there unless we do something. And that might not be this year, but I would like to kind of keep it on. And I don't know that we need to keep it in services anymore. We can have that discussion also, Mr. Chairman. But I did want to get this out in front of everybody to understand what the scope of this is. And it's pretty expensive to do anything meaningful anyway. And so there may be some other ways, again, as I said, to do baby steps and at least to spruce it up somewhat. So because it is very unsightly. And if you haven't been on Zandale Drive, I mean, it actually starts or there's a cascading of problems. One is parking, street parking for the people that are in that three-block area, because the roadway in and of itself is just essentially one lane and a little bit. And if somebody, most of the people that do street parking park up on the right-of-way and the easement portion, and could get ticketed. And that would be hard to defend that. But that's what you might have to do. I guess the people just get used to the fact that they don't have parties and social events or wedding receptions or whatever that would take that whole street down as far as traffic. It is a collector street, I believe. Does anybody know the answer to that? I think that is the case. Yeah. So, anyway, as I said, I wanted to get it out in front of everybody and we can discuss where we go from here. But, Morgan, I appreciate you helping the association and taking your time out to come here and talk to us. No problem. And if you would like to look at some of the other options, we'd be happy to price those as well. Okay. Thank you so much. Thank you. The next item, which is not on the agenda, but we discussed last... Oh, I'm sorry. Mr. Blevins. I just wanted to add that the consent decree requires that we redo our project list for stormwater improvements. And I'm sure if we wanted, we'd have Darryl come up. It's okay. It's okay. He would tell us that there's a lot more than the two that we've mentioned today, Lafayette Parkway, South Bend area, as well as Zandell. There's a whole lot more hardened channels in the area. And I think when we reevaluate that project list, one of the weighting factors needs to be water quality as opposed to just quantity. And I think that's an area where this project suddenly jumps up quite a bit, not just for aesthetic value, but for water quality value. So I would advise you to bear this in mind later this year as we go through that process of recreating the overall water quality project list, because this one may well jump higher than you might think, because the consent decree is going to require us to do that. Well, thank you very much for bringing that to my attention. And I was hoping that I wasn't going to be presumptuous. I think that that might happen, but... As you know, we're required to come up with criteria. And I think that's going to be the key part of the process is what criteria do we use to put stormwater projects on our list, on our master list? I mean, obviously flooding is a part of it, but water quality, impact to the aesthetics of the neighborhood, all those things have to be taken into consideration. So stay tuned later this year. Thank you, Chair. I did. It is also a traffic hazard. At one point before they had the guardrails up, and this was many years ago, a car turned over and was upside down in the channel. And the driver was in there, and there was plenty of water going through that channel at the same time. And he was fighting with all his life to get his head above water, because we weren't, we being the government, wasn't able to get safety equipment there in time to, happily, nothing, there was no fatality. But we had a big crowd of people out there watching and cheering him on, anyway, in his efforts to stay alive. Thank you. Thank you, Chair. The item that we dealt with last week, we said we would keep in, was the vicious dogs. And I said if there's anybody who wanted to send a request for a law, that they could do that. But I did not receive any. I think Mr. DeCamp said if we didn't, that he would go ahead and make that motion that we continue with the laws that are on the books. I think that's what we had talked about last time. Is there anybody who, if they did not send something, Mr. Schoeniger or myself, and I didn't receive anything, Mr. DeCamp, do you want to? Yes, I would go ahead and make that motion that we, you know, just retain what we have on the books at this time on that issue and tell if something else is brought up again. We have a motion. I'll second. We've got a motion and a second. Any discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? And we'll, I'll take that forward to the Council. And then we also had a couple other issues. Ms. Gorton had sent us an email on a couple issues, and I think that Mr. Beer was going to bring a couple forward to take off the agenda. Yes. Both of them were put on the list in December of 2005, and one involved traffic calming on Harvard Drive. Speed humps had been installed, and so that can be deleted. And we have a motion to delete the... I would move to delete that. Second. We have a motion and a second. That would be the Harvard Drive? Harvard Drive one, yes. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? We'll take that. And the one right below it also was put on in December of 2005, no parking signage on Belvoir between Malibu and the crest of the hill. And to be perfectly honest, Linda, that one just kind of died on the vine, I think, as far as the people that lived in that area. And it may be brought back up again, or this may indicate to us a need to look at it at a later date. But at this point, anyway, we've had no activity as far as the people living in the area. And we want to go ahead and delete that. I would so... We have a motion to delete. We have a second. Second. We have a second. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. All those opposed? Are there any others that the committee members would like to have taken off this list, or anything that they'd like added to this list? Seeing none, I will take a motion to adjourn. I move. Second. We have a motion to adjourn. All those in favor, say aye. Aye.