♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ Has anybody had trouble signing in? Everybody's having some trouble. While they're working on getting this, we have had some excused absences for today. And we have some people who are in another hearing who are on the way. And as we were walking to the meeting, Zach Davis, who was coming, sent a text and said he was having a little queasy spell and he didn't think he should come contaminate us. So I thought that was a really good idea. So he is not coming right now. And we're going to have other people who are coming. We have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Do you approve the minutes? Tracy? We have. I know Jennifer is coming and we haven't heard that some of the people are not. We have seven here. Only if we want to do purchases do we need eight yeses, right? But we can go ahead and approve the minutes and those things. Okay. We have five voting. Do we approve the minutes? Well, they're members. They're just not voting members. There's Tommy. Okay. Here comes one. Yay. Thanks, Tommy. They're not voting. They can't vote. One, two, three, four, five. We have six voting members. We'll wait for one more we have. Yeah, we can do our committees and I can be making reports to make sure that the others are on the way. There's Tommy's. Zach just called us, but we haven't heard that the others are not. Since we need one more person before we can approve these minutes, Beth, do you want to start out with the update on the farm closings with the NRCS? Is there anything you need to tell us about that? Okay. And they are here. The balls are here. Their housing request, they have, if you'll recall last time, they needed to go to the Board of Adjustment, and they have done that, and that has been approved, and we need to vote to let them proceed while the building time hasn't started quite yet so they can carry on. But we'll have to wait until we get one more person. Okay. Beth's going to go back to the number three. Okay. All right. Just a brief update on our closings, but we have four right now under contract that are supposed to close hopefully by March 31st. Those are using our existing template. We have five others that will be under the new template that we are working on. But for the four that are under contract, Charlie Farmer is creating the agricultural land easement plans, known as the ALE plans. He goes out to the farm, meets with the landowners, and it's somewhat of a blueprint for the farm. It also includes the conservation plan and things that they need to abide by. If there's any highly erodible land, he writes out a plan for that. So Charlie is taking care of that right now. As soon as those are completed, those are some of the last steps, other than we do have one farm that is consolidating seven tracks, and they have just gotten their survey to us and had to do a couple of other things that our attorney and NRCS are requesting. So we are working with the surveyor, the landowner, and our attorney and NRCS collaboratively to get that resolved. But everything is going well with those landowners. So we expect those closings. I'd say the three that are not requiring surveys will definitely close by March 31st, unless something comes up with NRCS, and the other one that has the survey may still close by then. But I will keep you all apprised. Other than that, the NRCS, when they publish their guidebook or manual, it is called the rule, and it is open. So with the 2018 Farm Bill, which actually passed in early 2019, NRCS puts out the rule that covers all the USDA programs, and for specifically NRCS. But that is online, and I can send a link if anyone would like to look at it. It is open for comment through March 5th. So it will be open until comment, then they'll go back, read those, look at any feedback they might have gotten, and then they publish it. And until they publish that, we can actually not turn in our new template that we are required to do. But we are working on that, and Margaret will reference that in her report, that we have started on the template so that we will be ready by the time NRCS has that rule published. And that is all I have today. Thank you all. Before we go on to the committee reports, I will say I've spoken to our chairs of our various committees. Phil, being our treasurer, has agreed to still head the committee, talking about budget and finance. And I just talked to Will, and he's willing to stay on with applications. And Margaret has agreed to stay on doing our long-range planning and our ordinance review. And I still need to make sure that Zach wants to do this. If any of you all want to switch committees or know someone you think would be a big help for your committees, or you would like to have them, please give me that name, and I'll bring that before the board. So having said that, Will, do you have a report today? I want to have Beth do a follow-up on something that you all, your committee, directed her to do. They had voted to, and you have the cards. They all have one, right? No, I have a stack here in case you all would like to take any to people that you may want to talk to about applying to PDR. So the cards that you all okayed, I'm going to have Beth give an update on the mailing and the cost and the stuff. Beth? Okay, so we did print the cards that you all had approved. I checked with our post office we have here in the basement about these, and they suggested that we get these in a mat format for postage. They also recommended that, or they gave me the tip that as far as postage, if we organize them by the first three digits of the zip code that it will cost, we get a reduction. So we did that. We had 420 printed, and there were 382 that actually went out. What GIS did for us is they provided a list of mailing labels to every landowner. Well, they provided a list of every landowner, and then they gave us a separate list that removed the duplicates. So, for instance, if Gloria had five farms in the rural area, they took out four of hers and just left one, so we weren't doing duplicate mailings. So that came out to 382 farms. So we had some extras made so that we could share them and have them at events, and we have heard back from some landowners that received those, so that's good. It ended up the cost was approximately $420 for the postcards, and then our postage is going to be around $170. So we were actually able to reach nearly 400 landowners for just $1.56 per person, which is a good rate. And we think with these being colorful, I actually mailed them out the Tuesday morning after Martin Luther King Day, and by Wednesday afternoon I had a call from someone. So I think they did catch people's attention, and hopefully we'll have good feedback. And then Gloria is going to tell you all about two recruitment meetings or information sessions we've had so far, and Robert has attended those as well, and so I will let her take it from here. Well, I think the cards are a really big improvement over what we sent last time. Thank you for you and your committee working on that. And we've had positive feedback, especially so far at the gatherings we've had. I wanted to thank everybody well for working so hard on a list, and hopefully all of you all have taken the list and have tried to target some of the people on it, looking for folks who might be interested. And we had the first event at the Farm Bureau meeting. I forgot the date. January 16th, I think. Right. I should remember that date. January 16th we had the Farm Bureau gathering. A large crowd, a good crowd. Robert and Beth were the program and made a great presentation. It was very well attended, and they did a great job. I will pat them on the back and brag on them. And we passed out, took some applications with us, and passed them out and targeted some of the people Will had on his list, some of which said that they would be getting back to us. The second event that's on the postcard that Beth mailed out was at Phil DeSimone's Winery at the start of Grimes Mill Road last Sunday. And he gave us the place for free, so thanks to Phil. We had some cheese and crackers and wine from Phil's. And I guess there were 40 or 50 people there. What would you say? Robert was in attendance again and Beth. We made a short presentation and answered questions and have already had property owners contact us who were there. And Beth and I are meeting with some of those on Monday, one of which will be about 100 acres. So both things have already been fruitful. So thanks to Will. Thanks to Robert. Thanks to Beth. Thanks to all of you all who encouraged some people to come. This is the food we had on last Sunday that went with the wine. And we're doing this again at the Farm Bureau on February the 20th. So it is open. We're going to stay after their usual board meeting for an hour. That has been advertised. It was on this card that went out. And we hope that we have people other than just Farm Bureau members. So if you know anyone who qualifies for the program, I want to encourage you all to ask them to come. This is open through the month of February, through February 28th. So we need applications. We want applications because, thanks to you all, we've pretty much cleaned our board. So we're, I think, in good stead. And the fact that somebody is already coming in on this Monday asking for help filling out an application I think is a good sign. So that's the follow-up from Will's committee and what he's been doing. And I'm going to interrupt Gloria just a moment to brag on her because, Chris, will you put that back up for us? So this event was something that Gloria and Mary Diane Hanna put together. And the Old Richmond Road Neighborhood Association is an enormous neighborhood association in the rural area. It may be the only strong one in the rural area. Okay. And it is one of the best. And they reached out via e-mail to all these people in addition to our card and encouraged them to come. And Gloria did this beautiful tray by herself. She brought this. She said, I'm going to bring a few snacks. That's what she told me. And I show up in this gorgeous board that she put together was there. Her husband paid for a couple bottles of wine for people to enjoy. And it really what the big difference that I noticed, and Robert was there too, is that in the past, I think throughout the history of PDR, we have had information sessions at the Fayette Extension Service. And they're just kind of just a standard information on a government program. And this was people who knew each other had reached out. They brought a neighbor. They stood around and had nice conversation. And you could see the difference it makes. We have already heard from a couple people that were there. And Gloria and I are meeting with some on Monday. And I think we need to try to make our events this way to make them more intimate. Gloria did say, if we could have one of these in each quadrant of the county, how nice that would be. Because it was on a PDR farm. We had some people say, well, am I still allowed to have my greenhouse? And they're like, yes, you're on a PDR farm in a little small winery where they grow the grapes outside. If it is coming from your farm, yes, you can continue doing that. And it really does, it was a much different event. And so kudos to her for that, the little snacks. And I just, I think it gave us a good idea of how we should work on recruitment and some things we can do as we go forward. I would be remiss if I didn't say this came from Will's committee. Again, Mary Diane was a member of Will's committee. And she told him from the get-go, she told Will, I'll be willing to help. She is the president of the umbrella group for the Old Richmond Road, which covers Athens and the Jack's Creek, the Hillgate, the Daymar. There are several neighborhood associations involved in that, and hers is the umbrella group for all those. So Mary Diane followed through with what she had told Will months ago she'd be willing to do. She sent an e-mail to her whole membership. I think it's maybe 150 households. So she sent an e-mail asking them to come. And so we did have a good turnout. And Beth has already heard from some of the people who had smaller lots. I was in the office yesterday or the day before when they were calling about donating easements on the less than 20 acres. So if we can find people who are willing to do this all over the county, just set up a meeting in that area. I know we don't have necessarily wine and cheese at every one, but if we could get meetings that are personal and personable in these areas, Beth thought it was a big help and that it was different. And people had a great time. And I guess if we give them wine, they'll consider easements. Maybe that's the key. I don't know. We do this at every winery. So thanks, Beth. But thanks again, Will, and to everybody who helped, especially for Robert, who always has been showing up and helping. Ordinance and review. So our committee met last week to begin to review the federal requirements, the minimum requirements as a result of the new farm bill. We took a look at those. We have decided to retain John Watts to draft a new template for us that will show us the federal requirements. In some cases, we have some flexibility, and in other situations or in other provisions, we have to use exactly the federal language. So we're continuing that review, and we hope to bring that to you all probably at the March meeting. So we're trying to stay ahead of the process, and with the rule not being finished until March the 5th, we hope to have our template ready to submit for the Fed's review right after that deadline so that we're not delayed. That's it. And I'll do a little follow-up from Margaret's meeting. Since before Margaret became chair, when we were doing the update and for our in-house audit, several issues were brought forward, things we need to work on, which we have done. At your place you'll find a handout. I wanted you all to be aware of this. At Margaret's meeting last Wednesday, we discussed the fact that we needed to look at some of the things that needed to be updated in the zoning ordinance. And what you have, just to make you all familiar with this, please take it home and look at it carefully. Back in November, Margaret and I had worked on a letter to ask for clarification for some of the things in the zoning ordinance. And as a result of that and some of our easements, we moved this on to the council yesterday in work session. Jennifer was there, and Kathy, who's in our audience again, there. And they have moved this issue on to the planning commission. So I don't know if either of you want to comment or not, but you have the background information. That's all I needed was just to update you, period. Just some clarification on that. Tracy, since you're here, we moved it on to the planning commission, but I thought we were going to have a ZOTA drafted. Is that correct? What's the process we're going to do with that? Because that wasn't clear yesterday. Well, I think the motion that you all voted on yesterday is going to move the issue of looking at the tenant house definition to the planning commission. And so the planning staff will have to be a starting point with that. So at some point some kind of text will be drafted, either in conjunction probably with some folks and then the planning staff will present that to the planning commission. I'm assuming they're going to follow their normal process, which is a work session, a discussion where the planning commission members can talk about it, ask questions about it, make suggestions about it, and then it goes through their normal process to be put on to the full commission, and then the full commission will vote on it and make a recommendation back to the council. There's no timing requirement. There's no timing requirement for that. That's my concern. Right. There is no timing. This could go on for another six months. It could go on. It could go on for a period of time. I don't think that will probably happen just because there are members on the planning commission who are aware of it. I just know it's important that we have this language in for the new applications. That was my assumption. Yes, we do need it for the template. We do need to have some of this done because we need to update the template that we're going to be using for five of these closings we already have in the queue to be closed. So we are trying to make sure we have that corrected. Would a letter from this body help accompany that to the planning commission that this is important? Would a letter from this body help sent to the planning commission? I've tried to make that clear yesterday, but if you think it's not, you want to see it. I think you need to put it in writing. I think you need to have something from this board stating that this is imperative because it's due to the application process where there is a timeline associated with this. And because of that, they need to take this up on the earliest agenda that they can put forward. And just for point of clarification, because this was Margaret's point as the chair of that committee, it's to review that definition and the associated regulations that go with it. So it's a little bit more than just the definition. That's fine, but I think you need to have a written statement. Okay. By this body anyway. We can do that. Sure. Margaret says yes, we can do that. I think it will help. Okay. Thank you. Are there any other comments? Okay. Shall that just be a direction? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Can we? Part of these are non-voting members, so I don't know that we can. Would someone like to make that motion who can? Or at least give us some direction? I don't think we have to vote on that, do we? Tracy, if they want to send the? I mean, no. As a point of clarification. Not necessarily they don't have to vote on it. I mean, if you or Margaret as the chair want to write the letter, I think you have the direction to do that. All right. As a point of clarification. Okay. All right. So we don't need to vote on that. We'll just make sure that happens. Let's see. Next, treasurer's report. Anything, Phil? Nothing new to report this month. Let me ask you, Tracy. We have one applicant from our PDR who's jumped through all the hoops. How do we go about letting them carry on if we have enough people here, but they're not all voting members? We have enough of our board here. Three, four, five, six, seven. We have nine board members here, more than enough for a quorum, but not enough for voting on things since part are non-voting members. Right. I don't remember when this first came up before if there were any motions or not. I mean, if the motion before was to approve it after they went to the Board of Adjustment, if it wasn't that, I don't recall. I mean, if we didn't hear this, we heard only their primary residents. Okay. I mean, you have to be able to have the right number of voting members to take action with a vote. Eight. Seven for a housing. It's seven because of the increased number, and then it would be eight when you're talking about acquisitions. So we need one more person. I'm texting Christine and Greg. Okay. Because we have Zach just literally called us as we were walking in the room saying he was sick, but we have not heard from Christine or Greg. So they didn't say they were not coming. You know, you can't vote. You can't vote outside of being present at the meeting. So, unfortunately, that's an unfortunate circumstance, unless they show up in the next few minutes. We can do our own report. We'll go on with our agenda and do the rest of our reports, and maybe Christine or Greg will show up. I mean, we definitely have a quorum. We just don't have enough voting quorum. I will say next, I guess, a staff report. I'll speed it up anyway. We have had lots of phone calls amongst ourselves and with some of our PDR folks and lots of text. I mean, I want to thank Jennifer and Kathy for helping so much on the issues that have to do with this board and coming to our meetings. We've had ordinance review issues, and thank you all for participating. I did meet with some of the Farm Bureau members. Actually, on January 1st, they came to my house, and we sat down and talked about the issues and what they wanted to see and about the PDR. And I did go on the 8th to the Fayette County Neighborhood board meeting because they are very supportive of us and made it clear that they like to support PDR and what we're doing. So I did attend their planning and zoning meeting, and I did go the next day to the American Bloom, and I'm helping them do their update for their community profile that they do as recruitment that we turn over to the city and to the council and they use for recruitment. And Beth and I met with the Bluegrass Land Conservancy. Margaret, of course, was there, and we talked about working jointly together. Margaret may want to comment on this. Working together on looking at donations and joint efforts where we can work together, and we are targeting some of the things that Will gave us because we have farms that part are in Fayette County and the other half of the farm or parts of it are in the surrounding counties. So in the surrounding counties where this board cannot hold easements, Margaret's group can. So as those people come to us, we're trying to forward some of those on to her to see about donations on that part. Anything you want to comment? We think that coordination with our partnering groups is a good thing. I'll just say that the Bluegrass Land Conservancy works primarily with donated conservation easements and works in central Kentucky from Lexington to Louisville with respect to easements, and we just felt we'd both be more effective working collaboratively than working competitively, and so we just met to talk about what each group is doing, how we can work together to increase the number of acres that are under conservation easement in Fayette County and beyond, and just how we can share certain expertise or how, for example, the way easements are listed in the PVA, whether we could both jointly request that that be clarified and made more clear so that people who are running title searches will know what an easement is and what that means. So it was a good meeting and a good first step, and I look forward to the two programs working together. I will say as a follow-up, one of the things we discussed was what's on the PVA records. If you look now on ours, properties where we hold an easement, on the PVA records, one of the little listings says easement, or instead of saying easement, it says PDR. Well, we've all discussed how nobody knows what PDR means, and over in the other little box it has why, meaning yes. So one of the things we talked about is the conservancy. Theirs are not even marked on that. So we are going to try to work together to make sure that maybe the wording gets changed from PDR to easement, and rather than a why actually saying yes or some kind of an indication. So when people go to the PVA website and they're interested in looking at these properties, they will know there is an easement. So that's one of the things we're going to do jointly. A follow-up to that is I'm also working with the Fayette Alliance, the Blue Grass Trust, the Fayette County Neighborhood Council, and they asked me to come. They're all going to meet on a regular basis as well to coordinate with one another. So I think it's a good thing for all of us to sort of let everybody know what the other one is doing and being very transparent and sharing duties and information. So I'll be doing that as well. I've met with all the committees that have worked, which was the ordinance review. And Jennifer and I have met and tried to coordinate the planning issues since she's the chair of the council planning committee. And Beth and I have worked on a lot of these joint issues. We have been asking the farmers and had these informational meetings, and we're going to continue to meet with them upon request. And, again, I want to thank you all, all of you, for doing this. And I've been meeting with Councilmember Plowman about these issues, and thank you. And I have talked to Matt Hutchison, who is our federal partner, MNRCS, about some of these issues to make sure that we're on track, both with updating our template and what needs to be said to do that. So I think we're in good shape, I think. Beth? Yes. So I think the only things I have to add are that I attended the mayor's state of the city or state of the merged government address on, let's see, I think it was January 21st, and Councilmember Massotti and Plowman were both there. And the mayor did say that she supports PDR. She did a whole part of her presentation about the ag community and farming, and Todd Clark's farm was one that she featured and talked about the things they are doing and talked about how the ag economy is a huge part of our economy, that these are working farms, and her support of PDR. So that was very nice. And also, just an update on our budget, we are not having to vote today on our budget amount. We will do that at next month's meeting. And that is because the council and mayor have worked together to kind of, it gives the mayor a little more time to see the actuals come in for this fiscal year. So they have moved her budget address up until April 28th, I believe, and that is, it used to be the first Tuesday of April. And so that is allowing us to do our part a little later as well. So our budget request for just operating is due mid-February, and I've made Gloria and Phil aware of that, and we'll work on that part. And then our bond request will be due immediately after our February board meeting. And by then we will also know about how many applications we've gotten in, with our deadline being February 28th. So we will keep you all posted on all of that. And our budget hearing is not until early March. And so we do, this is a little, it's giving us two or three extra weeks this year, which worked well with the timing of our application deadline. So just be prepared for that next month that we will give a budget overview and take a vote on what to request. Be sure, try to be here, those of you who are voting members, so we can vote on this. We need to remind everybody, Beth, please, when you send this out, that there is, by ordinance, an attendance requirement. And we even added a few meetings to make sure that people would have the ability to be able to do that. So remind them that they need to let you know ahead, so if they're not going to be here, the rest of us don't have to come. So I think that's really important, especially when we have people who have made the special effort to come who need some sort of approval. So please make a special effort to do that. Public comment. Hello, everyone. Thank you again for what you continue to do, especially for the 12th District. And Gloria, as always, for your leadership and our committee chairs as well. I was just going to mention that next Wednesday, February the 5th, Bluegrass Tomorrow will be having our 2020 Vision Awards. And a lot of these awards, Margaret, I believe you were a recipient. Knox has been a recipient. Frank Penn has been a recipient. And I meant to have the whole list, but we'll have a good group from the 12th that will be recognized that day. There will also be local food and agricultural booths, farm to table. Let's see here. And it is from 7.30 in the morning, and it usually gets over by 9.30. The reason I'm telling you this is I have a table. If any of you would like to be my guest, just let me know, or you can let Gloria know, because we text back and forth. But I just wanted to invite you all, because it's a great event. I think some of you have been there and experienced it. So keep up the good work. Thank you. Thanks, Kathy. And Beth might want to tell you there's an upcoming meeting where she's been asked to give a presentation, which is the 5th? Yes, next Tuesday. It's called the Neighborhoods in Transition Task Force. And Councilmember James Brown is the head of that commission, and they are looking at housing issues around the city. I think that for Gloria and I reviewed the list today of the, I think it's Councilmember James Brown, Vice Mayor Steve Kaye, Councilmember Bill Farmer, and there was one other Councilmember, but are on that, as well as about 20 citizens of Fayette County. So apparently there have been some questions there before. It's an understanding of not understanding exactly how our funding works or thinking maybe we'll receive more money than we do. And so they've asked us to clarify some of that. So I'm going to go next week and provide a report on that, and we'll let you all know at the February meeting how that goes. Well, I apologize that you have come and that not all of our members have shown up. We're also prepared to do a closed session, which we will not be able to have, as well. Are there any comments before I ask? Before I just tell you, I'm not going to ask to adjourn. I'll just have to tell you. I was just curious, could we hear from the boss? Sure. Would you like to go ahead and say anything you'd like to say? That way maybe we wouldn't. They're actually, I've been talking to them, they're going to actually go talk to their neighbors to get their neighbors to see if they're interested in PDR. That would be wonderful. We'd love to have everybody around us PDR, so a little protected pocket. But we don't want anybody developing. No development, please. Yeah, we got the one neighbor squared away, so Liz has got everything going, so it's good. But basically we're wanting to add a tenant house and went to zoning. And so there's an area that we had to get approval for because there's kind of like a spring that runs through the property. And the house would be set back like 250 feet, the existing tenant house, which is a challenge. Yeah, it's awful. So it's going to go away. And you all have that in your packets. So we sent them the pictures, so they have the pictures. Yeah, so I can't, like, have anybody live there. That would be really awful. So in good conscience, I can't do it. So anyway, that one would go away. And then we need 300 feet, so we had to go to planning and zoning. They approved it at 250 because otherwise it would be in that. 300-foot setback. Right, sorry, three. They needed a variance from the Board of Adjustment, right. And they approved everything, so then we were just coming back to get help. They're ready to go. And we wanted to try to help them get this done so that they could remove what they needed to remove, although I don't think you need our approval to remove it. I think that's strictly building inspection because the plan's already been approved. We approved your plan. You just had to go for that one thing before the Board of Adjustment. So when you get ready to, if you're ready to construct that house by next month, hopefully we'll have enough to vote on that. Go ahead. Is that correct, Tracy? Yes. Okay. I think Will made a good point. Could we go ahead and walk through the memo so that they don't have to come back and let these people ask any questions, or can we not walk through? I don't think you should do that because the people that aren't here won't hear. Right. And then if we were to vote, they might have questions and not be able to. Okay. We're sorry. It happens. People get sick. I think you can still proceed with the things you were doing with the exception of building the new structure that we need to. Right. Okay. Because you've already had the approval for the other things. It was just hinged on the Board of Adjustment looking at those things. We need approval for a pond. I didn't hear what you said. A pond. She said a pond. Oh, a pond. What you would do is we would probably have actually Ion here could work with you. NRCS, because it is a federal easement, you would want to check with them, and I can give you their numbers. It would either be Charlie Farmer or Ion, possibly Melvin Dean that would come out and look at it and help you with that. Okay. Because we're wanting to, like, literally right behind the house is it's a, like, nasty-looking weed-encrusted thing. So we're wanting to, like, beautify it and then also put in a water complex for a venting for the horses so we can have jumping and training and do all that kind of stuff. Well, we don't have to vote on that. We can tell you to go ahead and have. Yes. And I'll send you an e-mail back and forth with Dave, so I'll send him the contact information for NRCS right after this so that you can go ahead and reach out to them. Okay. And, yeah, we're getting a certified, like, cross-country builder that's coming in because, like, yeah, we want everything to be regulation for FEI so that we're building things that are appropriate and safe. So don't want anybody to get hurt. So, yeah. Great. Okay. Thank you. Well, thank you, guys. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks. And if there's no further business or comment or any more public comment at 344, 345, I will say to you all who made the effort, Tommy, thank you, Ian, Jennifer, Phil, Robert, Will, Margaret, Bo, staff, thank you all very much for making the effort. We did have a quorum. We just didn't have voting quorum to pass some of these things. So we'll look at the minutes. You did have a change. You want to go ahead and at least make that change, and then it can be in the minutes next time when we approve them. All right. We did it. He can just send that. He can just give that to Beth, and they'll be in the minutes next time when we approve them. All right. Thank you again very much for coming, and the meeting is adjourned. Thank you.