# Urban County Council Special Virtual Meeting - May 19, 2020 > Auto-transcribed civic record · May 19, 2020 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/5138 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/5138?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2020-05-19 - **Last revised**: May 19, 2020 - **Length**: 11,172 words > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** Audio from the official Granicus video was auto-transcribed with OpenAI's open-source Whisper large-v3-turbo model, run locally by The Lexington Times. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude. Verbatim wording may contain errors. See [methodology](https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/about/methodology) or [report a correction](mailto:editor@lexingtonky.news). --- ## Meeting Overview The Urban County Council held a Special Virtual Meeting on May 19, 2020, at 4:15 PM, with Mayor Gorton presiding. The meeting focused on a single agenda item addressing the suspension of enforcement of certain ordinances during what appears to be an emergency period. The council conducted one vote during the session, giving first reading to Ordinance 0494-20, which would suspend enforcement of specific municipal ordinances. No public comments were heard during this special meeting, and no presentations were given, reflecting the focused nature of this emergency session. ## Attendance All council members were present for the May 19, 2020 meeting. **Present:** • Mayor Gorton • Farmer • Kay • Lamb • McCurn • Moloney • Mossotti • Plomin • Reynolds • Swanson • Worley • Bledsoe • F. Brown • J. Brown • Ellinger • Evans **Absent:** None **Late:** None ## Votes and Decisions The council conducted one roll call vote during the meeting on Ordinance 0494-20. **Ordinance 0494-20** - An Ordinance suspending the enforcement of certain Ordinances and providing the Mayor with the criteria and procedure to temporarily close public streets, to permit the temporary use of parking lots, sidewalks, parks, and closed public streets for outdoor dining and retail. Ms. Reynolds made the motion and Mr. Ellinger provided the second. The ordinance was amended to change the end date to June 24, 2020, before the final vote. The ordinance **passed** by a roll call vote of 15 ayes, 0 nays, and 1 abstention. **Voting in favor (15):** - Farmer - Kay - Lamb - McCurn - Moloney - Mossotti - Plomin - Reynolds - Swanson - Worley - Bledsoe - F. Brown - J. Brown - Ellinger - Evans **Voting against:** None **Abstaining (1):** One council member abstained from the vote, though the specific member was not identified in the available records. This ordinance appears to be related to COVID-19 pandemic response measures, allowing for expanded outdoor dining and retail operations by temporarily suspending certain city ordinances and giving the Mayor authority to close streets and repurpose public spaces for commercial use. ## Contested Items The meeting featured one significant contested item that resulted in a split vote among council members. **Amendment to Extend Ordinance End Date** The primary point of contention centered on an amendment to extend an ordinance's end date from June 10, 2020, to June 24, 2020. The proposal generated debate among council members, with opposition stemming from specific concerns about the extension's implications. Members who opposed the amendment raised two main objections: concerns about monitoring capabilities and questions about the appropriateness of the trial period length. The nature of these monitoring concerns and the specific details of what was being monitored were not specified in the available materials. The disagreement reflected broader questions about the timing and oversight of the ordinance in question. Some council members appeared to favor maintaining the original June 10th deadline, while others supported the two-week extension to June 24th. Despite the opposition, the amendment ultimately passed, though the exact vote count and which specific members voted for or against the measure were not detailed in the available records. The split vote indicates that the council was not unanimous in their decision, suggesting this was a substantive policy disagreement rather than a procedural matter. The contested nature of this item demonstrates the council's careful consideration of timing and oversight mechanisms when implementing municipal ordinances, particularly during what appears to have been a trial or temporary implementation period. ## 0494-20 An Ordinance suspending the enforcement of certain Ordinances The council considered Ordinance 0494-20, which would temporarily suspend enforcement of certain city ordinances to allow businesses to expand outdoor operations during the COVID-19 pandemic. The ordinance permits the temporary closure of public streets and authorizes the use of parking lots, sidewalks, parks, and closed public streets for outdoor dining and retail activities to help businesses comply with social distancing and health requirements. Multiple council members participated in the discussion, including Mayor Gorton, Ms. Reynolds, Mr. Ellinger, Ms. Lamb, Mr. J. Brown, Ms. Evans, Mr. Moloney, Ms. Bledsoe, Mr. Farmer, Mr. Worley, and Mr. Swanson. Dir. Peacher also provided input during the deliberations. The ordinance represents the city's effort to support local businesses struggling with capacity restrictions and social distancing mandates by providing flexibility in how they can utilize public spaces for commercial activities. By suspending certain regulatory enforcement, the measure would allow restaurants and retail establishments to expand their operations outdoors, potentially helping them maintain viability during pandemic-related restrictions. The item received its first reading during the meeting. As with all ordinances, it will require additional readings and approval before taking effect. The temporary nature of the enforcement suspension reflects the emergency circumstances created by the pandemic and the need for adaptive regulatory responses to support the local business community while maintaining public health and safety standards. --- ## Decisions - **0494-20** — passed (15-0): An Ordinance suspending the enforcement of certain Ordinances and providing the Mayor with the criteria and procedure to temporarily close public streets, to permit the temporary use of parking lots, sidewalks, parks, and closed public streets for outdoor dining and retail. --- ## Full transcript Trip through the past That day in the rain Thank you. Okay, Mayor, we are live. All right. Thank you very much. Welcome, everyone, to the May 19th, 2020, four o'clock special virtual Urban County Council meeting. And I'll start the meeting with reading our special statement. Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, local state emergency, and Governor Beshear's executive orders regarding social distancing, this meeting of the Urban County Council is being held via video teleconference pursuant to Senate Bill 150 as signed by the Governor on March 30, 2020, and Attorney General Opinion 20-05, and in accordance with KRS 61.826 because it is not feasible to offer a primary physical location for this meeting. All right. Thank you so much. And I'll ask the clerk to please call the roll. Mr. Farmer? Yes, ma'am. Vice Mayor Kay? Here. Lamb? Here. Mr. McCurn? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Maloney? Yes, ma'am. Ms. Massadi? Here. Ms. Plowman? Here. I forgot to unmute. Here. Ms. Reynolds? Here. Mr. Swanson? Here. Mr. Worley? Yes, ma'am. Ms. Bledsoe? Yes, ma'am. Ms. James Brown? Here. Mr. Fred Brown? Zoom? Here. Mr. Eleanor? Yes, ma'am. Ms. Evans? Here. Thank you very much. All are present. All right. I'd like to go ahead and ask the clerk, please, to give first reading to ordinances. Yes, ma'am. An ordinance suspending the enforcement of certain ordinances and providing the mayor with the criteria and procedure to temporarily close public streets to permit the temporary use of parking lots, sideways parks, and closed public streets for outdoor dining and retail in order to better allow individuals and businesses to comply with the social distancing and other health and safety requirements and business reopening requirements issued by the governor and to slow the spread of COVID-19 in Lake Tintin County, suspending applicable fees for certain permits and setting requirements for interested retail businesses and restaurants effective upon passage of council until 12 a.m. on June 10th, 2020. Thank you. Thank you very much. Council members, we do have, there could be some questions. I'm sure you might have some, and we have Brandy Berryman in the council chamber to answer any questions you might have. Are there any? I wanted to say, am I able to make an amendment? Or since you just read it? Is Commissioner Speckert in the room? And I see three hands for discussion and Council Member Reynolds, you were first. Is Commissioner Specker in the council chamber? Ah, Dave Barbary, welcome. You'll need to unmute yourself. Well, let's see if I can unmute. Okay, there you've got it. Yes, there would be the opportunity to amend it at this point in time, but we would have to be very clear about what the amendment was. Okay. So may I state that at this time? I think that's perfectly fine. Okay. I would like to amend the said motion to change the end date of June 10th, 2020 to June 24th, 2020. that is in order to give a little bit more time to this trial process for restaurants because as you see this is a very involved process this will just give them a little bit more time before we reevaluate. Councilmember Reynolds can you state the date again? Yes, June 24, 2020. Okay. All right. Second. And who seconded that? Council Member Ellinger seconded. All right. Let's have discussion on the amendment, please. And I see several hands up, but I think they were up before this. is that council member lamb did you want to discuss the motion the amendment i would like to know um based on the information that you all had that you created this draft ordinance of june 10th and understand that versus where that the june 24th is coming from because i I need some relevance as to how that the administration came up with June 10th and then also how the same with Council Member Reynolds, please. I think Brandy Berryman can speak to the temporary nature of this that we talked about when we put it together. Good afternoon, Council Members. in regards to the temporary nature of this ordinance the intent was to let's give this a trial run here at the first part of the reopening of restaurants and retail businesses we think that this should be put in place in order to support them during this recovery reopening and june 10th was a good time period for us to to get the ball rolling that june 10th always could be extended once the time comes near again. So the three-week time period was what we threw out there initially. And Council Member Lamb, I think you wanted to hear from Council Member Reynolds. Yes, please. Thank you. I just want to say, first of all, I'm very supportive of this ordinance and I really appreciate the administration's work on it. My reason for extending it for two more weeks is that if you read through the procedures in order to maybe shut down a street or even the work that a restaurant would do in order to go into a sidewalk and really expand, it's going to take a little while to get all of that together. By the time that happens, that could be a week or more. And then there's only a little bit of time left before this expires. I've spoken to a lot of restaurant owners and I have a lot of friends that are in the restaurant industry and they have asked that it be extended and I think I think I understand the administration's intentions but by extending it just two more weeks before we reevaluate would be helpful to everybody. Also member Lam, did you have anything else? Well I guess I have not heard. I know this is new. All this is a new draft ordinance today. So and I would have to say until I actually I haven't heard from anyone in the restaurant business about this. And I haven't talked to anybody. And I don't know if any of my other colleagues have heard this or not. But I think that going forward, I think that we could stick with the June 10th date. We can always amend it. We've got another council meeting before this date, June 10th, arrives. So I think there's another opportunity for us to do it. I would like to assume that the decision to use June 10th also has to do with what the governor's orders are and so forth. So I think that at this point I have to support the original draft of the ordinance. And just just aside from that, my hand was raised before the motion was made. So I'll come back around when this motion is off the table. So thank you, Mayor. Thank you very much. Now, I'm just going to there are several blue hands up. And as I read your name, tell me if you want to speak to the amendment. Council Member Farmer. Okay, Councilmember James Brown to the amendment. Thank you, Mayor. Yeah, I kind of agree with Councilmember Lamb. I appreciate Councilmember Reynolds' insight on it, but I can kind of see where this thing, I like to give it a short trial period just in case it doesn't turn out well for residents and other folks and we can make a decision then. So I'd rather keep it shortened before we extend it to know what the impact is. But thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member Evans. Did you want to speak to the amendment? Well, I will. I'm sorry. I had to turn my volume up. I actually had more questions about the actual ordinance. But so Council Member Reynolds, I wish you would have waited a little bit before you made the amendment, because again, I don't know if I can agree with your amendment until I have more information, but I guess talking about trying to phrase it in the topic of the amendment, I mean, I'm not sure what, because it can be extended, I'm not sure why, what's been the pushback on just the trial run, because the 10th is, I mean, it seems like if people that have that ability or that, you know, that's already kind of part of what they do anyway, or have that option. I kind of feel maybe this was for them, and not necessarily a new way for, I mean, I guess for people to other businesses to use it. But again, I think this really is the trial run, but what do they think the additional, why can't they get this up and running by the 10th like everyone else, I guess? Because I mean, I think we would, we already have sidewalk seating sometimes anyway, restaurants already do that. So I would think our natural inclination would be to continue that if it's going well. so why do they have this push for oh let's just extend it right now yes do you want to answer that council member reynolds yes thank you well i think the issue is that what i'm trying to say is this ordinance addresses restaurants expanding their seating into sidewalks into parking and possibly streets with an application and in order to do that and figure out how much seating and where and all that it's going to take time and what I'm saying is they might not even have enough of a trial period themselves before June 10th to see if it's working for them and we might not to see if it's working for the city and so it's going to take time for them to set all that up if they want to you know file an application that's going to take time and I'm just saying three weeks is a very narrow window for all of this to happen to see if it's benefiting both the restaurants and and the city. I don't think two weeks extra is very long at all in the course of all of this. And so I think it would be helpful and I've been told it would be helpful to them. And I have looked over this very closely and I have spoken with Brandy about it closely. Yes. Sorry. Thank you. Okay. Council members, several of you had your hands up before. You don't have to speak to the amendment, but did you want to, Council Member Maloney? Yes, I want to speak to the amendment. To the amendment. Okay, thank you. I can't support the amendment because this is a new process, and I think the governor and his staff are going to monitor these first two weeks, and if it spikes like it is happening in other states, we may have to take this off pretty quick. Now, if it continues to go and we come to the 10th, we can forward it on. But I think this is a decision that needs to be done by the governor and the people who are qualified to make sure these numbers don't spike. So I will not support this unless the experts tell us you can add another two weeks. I'm nothing against the rest of us, nothing against you, Councilmember Reynolds, but I'm relying on the doctors and the scientists on this one. And if they had come up and said that, I might agree with them. But when I have my colleagues and restaurant business making those decisions, I just assume I'd rather hear from somebody else. So I would not support this. Thank you. Council Member Bledsoe to the amendment. Yes, ma'am. I do speak to the amendment and I would agree with Council Member Reynolds and why it's important. We're asking restaurant owners to invest resources and making this to see if it's going to work. And if you're asked to do that, not knowing how long you're going to have on the other side of it, there is a cost benefit analysis and it doesn't always work. And so I appreciate her amendment and I'll support it. And not that everyone will do it. Let's be honest. There's there's many who may decide not to open up, not to take this chance. But those of which who do want to take the chance and see if they can make the numbers work, having extra time ensures that the investment on the front end may actually be recouped on the back end. And that is why I would support it moving forward. Thank you. Council Member Farmer to the amendment. Thank you, Mayor. while I could potentially be supportive of the amendment I just think I'm old school enough to say can we discuss the legislation first and its pros and its cons and then discuss lengthening its usage or not we haven't had this policy discussion yet I'd like to have that first then decide about its sunset or not well I'd like to discuss the legislation then its sunset thank you thank you Council Member Worley to the amendment Thank you, Mayor. I'll support the amendment. I think it helps small local businesses. This is allowing our government to put into effect what the governor and his medical advisors have already said is okay. And I think just as easily as we can extend it, we can repeal it if there becomes a problem or if the governor shuts things back down and it won't matter one way or another. I think this supports local businesses and I'll support the amendment. Thank you, Council Member Reynolds, for bringing it forward. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member Ellinger to the amendment. Yes, Mayor. Thank you. And I actually was on the Reston Bar Subcommittee. And when this was brought up, they were very excited about it. But they also are concerned, like others have said, about if it just was a short timeframe, because they do have some startup costs, they do have to put some time in to go through and get everything set up for them. And so they they are a lot weren't going to be able to open up with the one third. But if they could, and this actually is not against the governor, this is working with the governor because it's unlimited when it's not inside the building. So this is actually helping out the local business. But it's also helping keep and making sure that people are going to be spread out. And I think the time frame of adding two weeks would certainly be a help. And I don't think it's going to be a hindrance. And I think we should. And I will support it. Thank you. Council member Swanson to the amendment. Thank you, Mayor. I wonder if someone from the administration could tell us why the date was picked for the 10th and if the administration has any concerns with the two week period. Thank you. Brandy? Brandy Peacher? Hi, council members. The date itself, again, was to set forth a trial for the initial launch of this ordinance. Now, is there a reason to not extend that two weeks? I don't know that there's a pro or con here. I think all the conversation is valid. Speaking with Mary Quinn Raymer with VisitLex, she also brought up the concern about the investment and the time it would take for businesses to get up and operating. So there could be a benefit to extending that. But also there is a benefit for the June 10th date as that allows us to assess here in the short term, the success and the ability for this ordinance to serve our community. So I know that doesn't give you one way or the other, but No, but that's very, it's very helpful. Thank you. Thank you. Vice Mayor Kaye to the amendment. Thank you, Mayor. Without echoing a number of things that have been said, I support the amendment. I think it's probably going to make more sense for the people who are in the business to know that they've got a little bit of a longer time. I don't see how you can assess something when it will hardly have been started. I'll support it. Thank you. Thank you. Is there anyone else who wishes to speak to the amendment? I want to speak one more time. Council member Maloney. Hang on we need to unmute you. there you go no you're not council member just one minute please I think there you're unmuted now okay I agree council member Farmer I'm hearing things that I didn't hear before and and administration is puzzling me on this, not making a recommendation saying it's not a bad idea to go to Easter week, and it's a good idea not to go to Easter week. I like to hear before we vote on this, because I'm getting a whole, in the last five minutes, something that I didn't understand. I thought the administration was supporting the 10th and sticking with the 10th, maybe because of what the governor is telling you. But now I'm hearing something totally different. And I want to hear what my colleagues have to say now that the vote changed. Now, if y'all can go and vote for this amendment tonight, I still haven't answered my question, and I wish you had done this at the end, but it really has changed. My colleagues, they've been looking at it. I never was informed. No one's ever called me about it, and so the only one I've heard is from you all, the administration, but I'm getting a different vibe. You really don't care which way we go with this. I'd like to speak to that, if I might, Council Member Maloney. We were being conservative. This will be the first time these restaurants have been open. And we don't know how this is going to work. This is the honest to goodness truth. We are very supportive of the restaurants having increased space, and that's why we are doing this, because it will help them, and we need to help them. But we didn't really know how it will work, and so we chose to be more conservative with the time. That is, I think, the simple answer to your question. if I may council member Reynolds I'm willing to withdraw my motion and make it later after discussion okay does the seconder withdraw that would be council member Ellinger I think yes of course okay all right so the amendment has been withdrawn So now let's have some discussion or, you know, Brandy can answer more questions about the ordinance itself. Now, I see about six blue hands up. Council Member Reynolds. I'm sorry. Did you want to speak to the ordinance? No, I will. Okay. Okay. Um, council member James Brown. Thank you, mayor. And thank you. Thank you, council member for withdrawing your motion. Brandy, what, what streets have already been identified and can you identify what restaurants have already applied? If any. At this time, council member, there have been no applications since this has not been passed or made public. There have been no streets identified to proactively close either. We do have some ideas that there are some hot spots, such as Short Street, Jefferson Street, and North Limestone that could potentially be explored. But at this time, we've had no applications. Okay, so are the categories of streets that we're considering, are they just local streets, no collectors, or what categories of streets are we considering? So there's various components to this ordinance, one being sidewalks. sidewalks, businesses can expand onto those sidewalks anywhere, and there's no restriction to that. We're also waiving the application and permit fee for that as well, but there are requirements for ADA and social distancing that will apply. For the use of on-street parking, we're not limiting that to any particular street either, but it does require an application and review by our Division of Engineering and Traffic Engineering. All of those applications will run to the mayor's office. If they're expanding into parking spaces on private property, a parking lot, they can do that without an application. They would want to seek their landlord or property owner or property manager's approval before doing so, but that would not impact the street. And then lastly, the closing of a street. We have not limited where that can occur either. We want to see what interest there is and we'll work with the businesses to figure it out. Okay. Sorry, that will require an application. I will say that. Okay. And what's the public notification plan? And is it just the operating hours of the restaurants? I'm sorry. Can you repeat that? I said, what's the public notification plan? And is the time frame that we're closing streets and sidewalks just the operating hours of the restaurant? as far as the sidewalks are concerned that can be during the operation hours yes there's no notification in regards to those for on-street parking and closure of streets we do not have in this ordinance specific requirements for communications but we will work with the applicants to ensure that adjacent property owners and businesses in the area will be notified additionally they'll work with traffic engineering for a maintenance of traffic plan and we'll communicate any lane or road closures as we already do. Okay. All right. Thank you. With some of the comments that were said, I would reconsider my position on that amendment, but I just want to make sure that we can swiftly address any issues that may arise from closing streets or sidewalks. So thanks for that information. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member Evans. Oh, sorry. Thank you. Thank you. My screen jumped back. Yeah. Thank you, Brandy, because I wasn't really clear on what was really being changed here. um i am concerned about the the closing of streets and i mean have we are we designating a certain area or is that perhaps a way that we could do that for so to notify the public i'm concerning we might close a street that has a restaurant on it and they've applied and then you know we can't have traffic down that street so I I'm a little confused on how that part is going to work and then to council member James Brown's point with the notification of this restaurant has applied and therefore the street's going to be closed or or well I'm confused on how that's going to happen and council member if I could clarify that when We're talking about closure of a street that is not for one individual restaurant. The intent with a street closure is when there's a concentrated area of businesses that have limitations for expanding outdoors. So we'll look at this on a case-by-case basis, and we'll need to look at it as a district-wide basis to see what the impacts are to other businesses or residents along that street. And so once it's determined that there is that ability to close the street, then we'll communicate the closure to adjacent property owners, businesses, and then community-wide through various forms of communication, which I don't have a plan in front of me, but that will be. Yeah, well, and that's my concern that there is no plan for that. And that's, I mean, like you said, it might impact other businesses that are on that street. Is there a reason why we didn't consider like a certain area that has a concentrated area like for a practice run? I mean, that would make more sense to Council Member Reynolds' point that everybody's going to get, you know, try and get worked up and get it together. But maybe it's better to operate in a concentrated area. For the street, Council Member, for the street closure, we didn't want to proactively close the street without knowing if the businesses wanted that closure. So that's why you don't see that proposal from us. Instead, we're putting forth a process for a group to come to us and seek that closure. So we're trying to work with them in the best way we can to get to fulfill their needs. And I guess I also forgot to mention when a street is closed, much like with any special event, or if you can imagine Thursday Night Live or the farmer's market, there are required signage that would be put installed as you approach the area. So drivers would be notified. There'll be alternate routes for drivers to take. And there will be communication through our traffic engineering through other means as well. I would say this actually bolsters my position to to go against the the amendment that was proposed, because this sounds very open and kind of we really don't know how it's going to work depending on what area. So, I mean, I can think of areas that would work perfectly, but then I can think of some where it might be a total disaster. So, I understand the 10th and why there was a conservative date attached to it. So, all right. Thank you. Thank you. Councilmember Worley. Yes, ma'am. I don't think, was I still up? I apologize. Okay. Okay, Councilmember Massadi. Brandy, how does this affect the 33% capacity rule? All of the guidelines that have been released by the governor remain in place. And so 33% is required capacity limit indoors. They've also said from a restaurant seating capacity that can increase outside with social distancing rules. So it does not impact the 33% requirement. That is still set in place. So basically it's an addition to the 33%. So they can have 33% inside and then the additional outside capacity is whatever they determine it will be under square footage, et cetera. That is correct. Okay. Thank you. Councilmember Lamb. Thank you, Mayor. And Randy, I appreciate this. And first, I want to make sure I say that I am supportive in whatever we can do for the restaurants to be able to allow them to have more constituents and to make more money, because at the end of the day, that's going to help us too. So, but I also want to make sure with this moving forward and with our LFUCGs decrease in staffing, do we have enough staff within these designated areas like traffic engineering and engineering that are actually working to accommodate this pretty significant push? and I mean I can just imagine that the quickness and I realize all this is new but I just want to make sure that we as a government have enough people on staff in order to be able to manage this as well because I mean we got to make sure that we cover ourselves too and I'm just going to be glad when all this is over with. So, Brandy, is there? Sure. Let me give a little bit more information in regards to the application process. Sidewalk, extending onto the sidewalk will not require an application, which means there will not be any oversight from LFUCG during this short-term temporary period. However, they will be required, of course, to be Indian compliance and social distancing rules. And there are other items that are listed in these general guidelines as well, such as prohibiting smoking and ensuring you're not blocking fire hydrants and what have you. But to say all that from an application standpoint, businesses can proceed with doing that without approval from the government. Same thing for private property. That would not add any extra burden to our staff because they can extend onto their own private parking lot without our approval. What it would require is an application to the mayor's office, which I will help facilitate any applications review. So that would be for use of on-street parking, as well as closure of a street. I would suspect that most of those requests will be in the downtown floor because a lot of the businesses elsewhere are within private parking areas or will utilize sidewalks. I would hope that we could handle that traffic here internally. And with me being that facilitator and routing reviews to various divisions, I hope we could help make that happen as quickly as possible. Okay, thank you for that information. And the other thing I believe I read through here and there's an opportunity for parks to be used. Is that, can you expand on that, please? That is correct. We've spoken a lot about right-of-way and parking lots. But one potential expansion area is if a facility is immediately adjacent to a park, that they could submit an application for review by Parks and Recreation to expand their sidewalk area beyond what they may already have. An example of that downtown would be Phoenix Park where you have the Panera and the Phenian Grill or Cheapside Park where you have Nate's Coffee, for instance. Those are some examples of someone who's adjacent to a park that you can see. All right. Well, thank you for this information. And I look forward to listening to the rest of my colleagues as they have questions, too. Thank you, Brandy. Thank you, Mayor. You're welcome. Council Member Farmer. Thank you, Mayor. Since this is new legislation and hasn't really been in a committee, and I don't care if it's Brandy or someone from law, could someone just either run through the narrative or the legislation itself just to highlight it for the public at this time briefly? Just do a slide deck. Okay. Thank you, Council Member. I have a slide deck that I could run through quickly. If Chris, would you mind putting that up? Thank you. While he's pulling that up, I will say you're right. Many times we've talked about this for quite some time in committee, but we worked well alongside various divisions and outside entities to gather their input for the legislation that's before you. Some of those include Visit Lex, the Health Department, the Lexington Police, Fire Department, Downtown Lexington Partnership, Lex Park, our divisions of planning, traffic engineering, engineering, building inspection. You name it, we've been talking to everybody. So I will say I want to thank everyone who has responded quickly so that we can get something to you in this short time frame. So, Chris, if you will, proceed to the next slide. We'll go quickly here at the front end. We're all aware that the state reopening requirements are in place. All of those will apply to every business. Proceed to the next slide. As you know, our opportunity here before us is to allow expanded space outdoors for these businesses, restaurant retail, with the proposed expiration date of June 10. Continue. So first, temporary use of sidewalks is included. Of course, this is to accommodate the increased capacity for restaurant seating and retail. Next slide. So what does this mean for sidewalks? First, as we've said, there is a sidewalk cafe ordinance, a permit that exists. We will waive that permit and fees. So any business that wishes to expand onto the sidewalk might do so without applying for a permit. They can do this on the sidewalk immediately adjacent to their frontage, as well as extending 50 feet either direction, but they would want the approval of their adjacent property owners and businesses to make that happen. Of course, they would want to reach out to their landlord or property manager for approval if applicable. Any business that's on the sidewalk should clearly mark a boundary so that we can see their expanded restaurant seating area. This is important from an alcohol beverage control standpoint, as well as the health department. They need to make sure and understand what business is serving what area. Businesses should also be sure to keep clearances, a walk zone clear on the sidewalk that would provide space for ADA compliance. So it's a three-foot walk zone. And, of course, all social distancing requirements will apply, and I'll get to that a little bit further. Next slide. So, in some instances sidewalks are narrow, so a business may look out their door and see an opportunity to utilize on-street parking that's adjacent to the curb. Next slide. In these cases, this area is often known as a parklet, which we are referring to that in this ordinance. So the application will be required to utilize this space because you are in public right-of-way. Also, we want to be sure that we're being safe. Public safety is number one. So that will require review from our Division of Engineering and Traffic Engineering to ensure that vehicles that are moving adjacent to this space are not going to be in conflict with patrons within the expanded area. Spaces that are currently designated for disabled parking may not be used for this instance. Since traffic will be unchanged on the street, the parking will still be flowing next to the space. A parklet must be separated by traffic by a positive physical barrier or barricade. So what that means is that could be a jersey barrier, a concrete barrier, to prevent vehicles from moving into the space where pedestrians might be seated. If the space is to be used at night, lights should be installed to delineate the space. Again, the other rules apply that we just spoke of, marking the boundary of the expanded restaurant seating areas, ADA compliance, and social distancing requirements. Next slide. In some cases a business may be immediately adjacent to a private parking lot. Here they will they may choose to extend into those private parking spaces. Next slide. This is since it is on private property and not in the public right-of-way, no application or fees will be applied. Businesses may use this private parking space immediately in front of their business for seating or retail. Again, spaces designated for disabled parking may not be used and we would recommend just as with the on street parking to provide some physical barrier next to the vehicular lane of traffic. So if people are driving around a parking lot, there should be some physical barrier between them and people within this expended space. Again, marking the boundary, ADA compliance and social distancing is applied. Next slide. The temporary use of public parks. We can continue to the next slide. This is only when a property is immediately adjacent. Next slide. When a property is immediately adjacent to the park, they may submit an application to utilize park property to increase their footprint. Again, the same rules apply with expanding the area and marking the boundary, ADA compliance and social distancing rules. Next slide. And then of course if in some cases the limitations of sidewalk and on-street parking do not help or there is a benefit to closing a street to serve a district with a concentrated area of businesses in that district, they may so choose to apply for a closure of a street. Next slide. In order to do this, an application will be submitted. That application will then be routed to the Division of Engineering, Traffic Engineering, police and other public safety entities for review. This will require a plan to be submitted indicating the area as well as how various restaurants will demarcate their space, apply the social distancing requirements and ADA requirements as well. This one will require a little bit more coordination as we've already discussed because of the impact to the community around it. Next slide. General requirements will apply to everyone and those include liability insurance must be obtained for the business to cover the expanded location and also naming LFUCG as an additional insurer when utilizing public right-of-way. Businesses should assume responsibility for any damage that's caused by their usage of this expanded space. Businesses will be expected to regularly pick up, remove, and dispose of all trash left by their business or patrons. Smoking is prohibited in this expanded outdoor space, and other permits still may apply. For instance, if a business wants to install a tent within this expanded area, there is a tent permit that will still be in place, but fees will be temporarily suspended. This is just a local ordinance and anyone who wishes to utilize this expanded area will still be required to follow other local, state, and federal laws. This includes, as we've mentioned, Americans with Disabilities Act, Alcohol Beverage Control Regulation, Health Department, and other enforcements that were not suspended under this ordinance. And of course, all of the guidelines that Governor Beshear has put in place will remain applicable. Next slide. This is a diagram illustrating it will take some space to make this happen in the outdoors with social distancing rules applied. So a table of two, spaced six feet apart from the next table of two, takes quite a bit of space. And then you'll need separate the table from the walk zone by six feet and then that walk zone if you're going to put more tables on the other side should have another six foot buffer between them so this is just an example I'm sure businesses will be very creative as to how to meet these social distancing requirements next slide and lastly if council so chooses to pass an ordinance today there will be more information available on Lexington's COVID-19 response webpage. You'll be adding a reopening guidelines page. That tab will take you to a page that lists all the materials we're discussing today as well as the applications required. So all applications and questions may be routed to me. I will be the point of contact in the mayor's office and happy to facilitate those applications and questions. And that is all, so thank you for your time. Awesome. Thank you. That's pretty much exactly what I think I needed. Maybe others did too. I have two follow-up questions based on your presentation. One, when we first went into this, a lot of restaurants got a parking space at or near their front door labeled for delivery only. And so it's not a parking space, it's a delivery and pickup only. How do you contemplate those usages in this application? and so council member i'm not too familiar with are these already parking spaces they were already used as parking spaces and then they made it as curbside pickup like like here in chevy chase there's a place in front of uh close to urban and toulouse there's not a parking space right now it's a delivery pickup for them there's one across the street in front charlie brown's one around the corner i mean there's just places that are not parking places right now because they've been marked for pickup and delivery only. So how does that layer with what this would be doing? In those instances, I would say they could apply for the parklet because it's still public right of way. And if they would like to utilize that space for additional seating and following those rules that have been set in place for on-street parking, we could explore what that looks like on a case-by-case basis. So you could have either or, but not both maybe? I suppose it depends on how much parking is in front of your business. All right and then secondarily in talking in terms of street closure what if not everybody on that street wants it closed how is that edited into all this or taken into account? That's a great question and one that we keep talking about here internally as well. It will definitely be a judgment call. We'll have to hear from various folks along that stretch and talking with our divisions and our administration, look at each of these applications on a case-by-case basis to see if it is beneficial to the larger group to make that closure. There's no scientific approach to that, right? So I can't necessarily tell you exactly how that will occur. And we will be learning a little bit as we go on this. So So I do know we have the same conversation going. You know, there's a little bit of old west about this. It's kind of woohoo, let's do this. All right, you've answered my questions. You've got a great presentation. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Councilmember McCurn. Thank you, Mayor. And thank you, Ms. Petra, for your presentation. That answered quite a bit of my questions I had on here about this. I do have a clarification question on lane closures there. Are you allowing for partial lane closures still in the case-by-case issue also? The ordinance as it's written today would allow us to assess that on a case-by-case basis. Okay. Sorry, excuse me. Okay, no, that's good, and I appreciate that too. What about speed limit signage? You had put on there that you were going down to 25 miles per hour in some of the areas. What's the signage going to look like? How far ahead is it going to be alerted that it's going down? Is there going to be kind of like the signs that say it's single lane coming up ahead or what's the plan with that? So thank you for bringing up a point I forgot to mention which is the utilization of on-street parking for this expanded area is only applicable on streets of 25 miles per hour or less so that is one criteria for being able to use that but if a street is closed. I know that traffic engineering has already mentioned there will be requirements for putting signage in advance of that street closure. And I can't speak to what those distances are, what those signs are, but that's why we have traffic engineering on board to review these applications and let us know what those guidelines are. Okay, great. One more question for you. What's the time, the rough, the turnaround for the approval of this process to go through? Do you anticipate? So for the items that are required an application, I would hope that we would be able to facilitate a review within a couple of days for approval, but I can't speak to a hard and fast timeline on that just yet. We will have to navigate that as we as we go, but I will say as I put this together, we have contacted every division and entity that will review these applications and and they have been so responsive and helpful. So I think that everyone understands the importance of helping our businesses and will be as responsible as they can. Yes, ma'am. And I think that definitely shows, especially in your presentation, the thoughtfulness and the quick turnaround with this. So thank you for what you're doing here. Thank you for helping support our small businesses. And that's all for my questions. So thank you, guys. Thank you. Council Member Maloney. Thank you. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay. I want to first of all thank Council Member Farmer for doing that presentation because you were able to answer a lot of my questions because I'm on the ADA Commission Disability. And a couple issues came up and I'm glad you were able to answer some, but parking. If you've got handicapped parking in front of some of these places, will they be able to take those handicapped parking away or will they still be able to park there? I mean, I want to be sure that the handicapped parkings are not being, and that's also in parking lots. Some of these places where businesses are going to be putting them all in their parking lots, so they're going to still have to follow the handicapped parking. That is correct, Council Member Maloney. The ordinance, as it is written, states that they may not use any of the handicapped spaces that have currently been allocated to a business. so they can use spaces adjacent to that but will not be able to utilize those. I mean I support what they're doing because I've seen you need to know the cities where they do these restaurants out there on sidewalks and I think it's a great idea. The only problem I have is street closure and I when I look down Lexington I'm looking at Jefferson Street you got a lot of restaurants on Jefferson Street. You close one of that one of those lanes that's gonna really back up the whole town down there. National Avenue that's another example. for Chevy Chase. What kind of streets are you talking about? I mean, are you looking at those streets if they come in and ask that we shut those streets down and we prepare for events like that too? Because even on Limestone, you look in front of the courthouse, you can shut one lane down and put the restaurants out in the street. I could see that happening, but you keep the one lane moving because it's a one-way street, but when you've got two-way streets, how do you, is that going to happen, that they're going to have to shut down streets like that? Council Member, I think you've put on several of the areas that have been proposed, but we would have to wait and see if businesses want to seek a road closure. In those instances, keep in mind that they may not want to close the street all the time. maybe they want to seek a closure on Thursday nights, Friday nights and Saturday nights. We're going to leave this flexible. We will see what is most beneficial to the businesses before we make a call as to what the overall approach will be on that. Also, I think that speaks to the benefit of a shorter timeframe to try this out so that we can control the greater impact right now. Traffic is lessened because there's not as many people out. We'll continue to increase. So we'll have to assess this on a week-by-week basis. So what's your recommendation? And I agree that maybe the short term to try this out. So you're going to the administration and you all recommend, let's try to get all these questions answered. And I still think it's going to go on. But I think to do it right, we've got to have a lot of questions answered. So I understand that you all want to do it to the 10th, get all your ducks in a row, and then we learn from this. And then as we go on, then we put it in the correct way. So I'm going to go against the amendment now, and I appreciate your information. Thank you. My pleasure. Council Member Massadi. Thank you, Brandy. Yeah, I know it was a lot of hard work putting this together. You know, these restaurants have been hit hard. I think we need some slack. You say it's going to take a couple of days to get this permit process. That's at the best. So you figure maybe it'll take three days. They're open only up to the 10th, which is three weeks. What happens if there's rain or some other? Of course, there is always that potential of rain, as we know. You know, so that costs that restaurant to her a lot to get into this process. So I think three weeks is too short of a time. that being said what about enforcement I mean you know you go into a store and three quarters of the people have masks on one quarter don't so what have you got a restaurateur that's not going to play by the rules I mean do we have enough people to enforce this kind of stuff I personally cannot speak to the enforcement side of this we this is not part of this ordinance we are not going to police every restaurant that utilizes the city outdoor space we don't have that capacity so And that's my concern. I mean, so you've got somebody playing by the rules and then you've got Joe over here who's going to take half the parking lot because he thinks he needs it as opposed to what his share should be or whatever. And I see that work that can get sticky. And I might add the health department also plays a role in this and they will be monitoring as needed throughout the county and throughout businesses to ensure that the social distancing and health department requirements are followed. I mean, I get it. I'm supportive of it. I just think that the enforcement's going to be tough if you want to follow the governor's guidelines. That's all, Mayor. Thank you. I will say I've heard from many restaurants. They're ready to comply when they're open. And I personally will be very surprised if we have issues with restaurants that are not in compliance. I've heard from a lot of them, and they want to do the right thing. Council Member Evans. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Brandy. That was a very helpful presentation. And you've given everyone kudos for participating and for being very helpful. um but again i'd like to know what some of the the real concerns were because surely you know we just brought up enforcement and we brought up street parking like i i i dare say everybody wasn't on board with this without calling people out but what are some of the real questions i mean just to be they're transparent what what are the things that might go awry. I think that being what Council Member Massadi pointed out, people just taking up too much space. And that's a concern that we have now, just with businesses that were open and not complying and the executive orders really being mere suggestions or requests as opposed to mandates. And I guess my real concern is when it comes down to it, we're still talking about people's health. And if we get everybody in a parking lot, and we've got people that, you know, and police are called, and they're not gonna, or feel like they have the ability to enforce it. Yes, it's ultimately, you know, the health department. But I mean, I just like to be real honest and transparent about this is possible, because we have trouble enforcing, you know, the height of grass. So I really just want to see how can we really make sure this happens in the most compliant way? Because I think downtown areas, you know, the establishments that already have, you know, sidewalk seating, I don't think those are going to be the problem. It's the ones that want to get out there and rush. And, you know, this might not, they might see this as an opportunity to make up what they've had and, you know, kind of be inclined to push the boundary. So, I mean, has it been discussed about having people designated to do that enforcement? Like what, because that's going to be a real problem. I'm sorry, bear with us. There's some kind of alarm going off in the chamber. It's the weather alert behind where the council clerk sits. You can go push the button and stop it. The things we learn along the way. We're having trouble getting it to turn off. there's there's a certain sequence that you have to use abby do you remember the sequence they've got somebody there because there's a certain sequence i remember when they installed that thing it's a don't cross the streams i'm sorry okay Commissioner welcome. Thank you Mayor, Councilmembers. Councilmember Evans, the question about compliance, I think that's a really great question. And, you know, thus far the issues, it's all been complaint driven. And I think that that's how this will work as well. You know, we're all sort of in an unknown and uncharted territory, and we certainly hope that people comply with the guidelines and orders that the governor has put down. If there were a, you know, sort of an extreme example of someone being belligerent and not compliant, you know, there's certainly our police would have the ability to step in and address those circumstances. circumstances. Hopefully that doesn't happen. But, but I think, you know, part of this is we're, we're kind of, we're kind of in an unknown area and we're, we're asking, or the governor has been asking people to comply. So I know that the restaurant owners are doing everything they can to comply and put the sort of physical distancing in place and hopefully that will make it so that the people who actually come to the restaurant are also complying. Does that help, Council Member Evans? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I feel like we're just going to be doing what we what we're doing with businesses right now, which is still a little unnerving for me, quite honestly, because, you know, it's, again, at the end of the day, we are talking about people's health, and it's one thing to say they can open up at a certain percentage, and understand the desire to have more space, but when we're talking about parking lots, I think sidewalks are one thing, parking lots, I just, I've got concerns about that, but I understand why we're trying to do it, And I hope everyone's as compliant as you all are hoping they are. We also hope they are. Thank you. Council Member Swanson. Thank you, Mayor. First, I want to compliment the administration on putting together a very, dealing with very complex issue in a very short amount of time. Because we all know this needs to be done quickly to help out the restaurants. I guess I'm a little unclear about the discussion on enforcement because this is just more seats to enforce. It's not anything different than we'd be enforcing if we didn't allow seating outside. It's the same bodies, the same police, the same officials, the enforcement. It's just more seating. So I don't see how that is relevant to this particular discussion. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you very much. Council Member Reynolds. Thank you, Mayor. A few weeks ago, a friend of mine that owns several restaurants in Lexington contacted me and said, hey, is there any way the city can expand seating for restaurants? And he sent me a bunch of links to other cities that were doing that. I contacted the administration and they were already working on this plan, which I think is a good one all considered. It's not perfect. Nothing ever is. But I think it will really help our restaurants since they're only allowed to have such a small capacity inside. Many of our restaurants are not even going to be opening when they can because it's not worth it to them. So I really appreciate what everybody has done to put this together. And I do think it will help our community. uh i i am going to make my amendment again because i do think that if you hear the process of of all of this and someone is to put in an application someone is to get the extra insurance that is needed all the things uh the setup uh outside it's going to take time and it's going to take money. So I would like to make a motion for an amendment on this ordinance to change the date of termination from June 10th, 2020 to June 24th, 2020. Second. Okay, Council Member Ellinger seconded. All right. Let's have discussion on the amendment, please. Council Member Plumman. Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to comment that after listening to everyone, I will support this amendment. I agree. I think it's a little limited time. It's going to take folks to get the kinks out and just the whole person that's visiting the restaurant. I mean, it's going to be all foreign. So I agree. I think we need to extend it. And I also think it's safer because we'll keep those social distancing in place for another two weeks. And then of course, lastly, the council can always change it. So I will be supporting this, Council Member Reynolds. Thank you. The social distancing will stay in place as long as the governor, you know, mandates that. And he is, I just want to throw this in. He's going to be watching very carefully while the restaurants open up. And if there's a spike in cases, he'll probably close them back down. So just you have to put it all in the perspective of what we're going through right now. Would anyone else like to speak to the amendment? All right. I see no one. So the amendment is on the floor and the motion is to change the end date from June 10th to June 24th. All those in favor, will you please, let's see, can we do this by blue hand vote? Could you please vote with your blue hand? We'll give you a second here to log in. 11 eyes. Are there any no's? I think Council Member Bledsoe was raising her hand for that one too. Oh, I'm sorry. So there were 12. I'm sorry. I can't access my blue hand for some reason. Oh, okay. We'll take your real hand. Thank you. All right. So two, four. All right. Are there any nays? If you voted yes, please put your blue hand down. And are there any nays? to the amendment i'm a nay this is to the amendment all right council member evans is anyone else a nay vote council member maloney are there any other nay votes council member plowman your blue hand is up are you i believe you voted for the amendment so the amendment passes and i believe there were two votes against it and one abstention okay thank you very much and one abstention so the amendment passed i'm sorry did someone speak that was me i'm sorry i just wanted to make sure that that is a material change so that will require a new first reading of the motion. Can it be done now? Well, if the, if the, if it passed. Yes. If it, or it can be done now. Well, it's already, the amendment's already passed. So it will require a new first reading of the The ordinance needs to be read again. As amended, and we can do that now? Yes. Okay, very good. Thank you for pointing that out. Okay. Is our clerk ready to give a new... Well, we should have discussion on the whole ordinance as it's been amended, correct? Now, or do we need to have the new first reading and then the discussion? Is that what you were saying is don't get have discussion now? Mayor, we'll need a new first reading and then we can discuss if there's a motion to suspend because there won't be a vote. So we'll after the new first reading, we'll have discussion of the amendment. OK. Of the ordinance as amended. All right. Thank you. All right. Abigail. An ordinance suspending the enforcement of certain ordinances and providing the mayor with the criteria and procedure to temporary closed public streets, to permit the temporary use of parking lots, sidewalks, parks, and closed public streets for outdoor dining and retail in order to better allow individuals and businesses to comply with the social distancing and other health and safety requirements and business reopening requirements issued by the governor. and to slow the spread of COVID-19 within Lexington State County, suspending applicable pleas for certain requirements and setting requirements for interested retail businesses and restaurants, effective of compasitive counsel until 12 a.m. June 24, 2020. Thank you very much. Now, Councilmembers, we have the first reading of the amended ordinance. Are there any comments? Councilmember Worley. Thank you, Mayor. I would move to suspend the rules and give second reading to this ordinance. Okay. Okay. We have a motion and a second to suspend the rules and give second reading. There were a couple hands up to discuss. Does anyone, I see Council Member Worley, you already are, you don't want to speak again, correct? and council member vice mayor kay did you want to speak when we had the floor open for speaking um i believe that uh council member bledsoe has been trying to she can't raise her blue hand i'm so sorry her real hand it's not you need to get a blue glove so that council member bledsoe you can raise your blue hand anyway she's been trying to get in Okay. Council Member Worley, are you willing to wait until the folks who wanted to discuss have a chance to discuss? Certainly fine with me. Procedurally, I wondered what we would be still discussing since it was already, it was just red. But however you'd like to proceed, Mayor. Since it was amended, I thought with the new first reading, there might be some discussion. And so Councilmember Bledsoe, was your hand up? And then we have Councilmember Lamb. Thank you, Mayor. And I apologize. I don't know where my blue hand went in this process. But I just wanted, I was going to make an amendment to have the government response to an application be within 24 hours. Because I think it would be important. I won't do that. But I do think it would be important, Brandy, to have a firm commitment on our part to turn this around within 48 hours. So people were not wondering how long this was going to take on our side, if we could do that. And I certainly appreciate how hard you and Mary Quinn and others have been working to balance the public health need as well as economic need and trying to fit both is challenging. And I applaud you all for working hard to get there. I just think that our part, if we could do at least pledge our part to make that decision and get that out there within 48 hours, I think would be important to the community. And I'm supportive of both the second read and of the ordinance in general. Thank you. Great. And we are committed. I think you heard Brandy say two days is what we want to try to attain. So Council Member Lamb. Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to make sure I know that I've had one person reach out to me, Mr. Quillen on North Limestone. And I believe Mr. Atkins had sent that email over to Ms. Peacher. And I just wanted to verify because I had he had reached out to several of us on council. And I wanted to make sure that that she had received that email, that that he had questions and concerns so that you could follow up on that. Councilmember, I did receive that email and I will reply to that. I appreciate that. Okay. I just, I pledged to that gentleman that I would make sure that I followed up on that and I did. And likewise, I'm supportive of this. I hope that it works out. You know, again, like I said earlier, I'm ready for all this to be over with as I'm sure everybody else is so we can get back to normalcy and not have to worry about this. So, but thank you all for all of your work on this. Thanks, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member Worley. Thank you. I would, Councilman Bledsoe, I know you were trying to get in probably long before we started moving forward. It's your pleasure. If you would prefer to make your amendment, I'd be happy to amend, to withdraw the motion for second reading at this point. If you would like to have a discussion on that. All right. Okay. Thank you. All right. Very good. All right. So we have a motion and a second on the floor to give second reading to the ordinance as amended. And I would entertain a motion to approve. Oh, you gave the motion to approve. Well, you gave the motion to suspend the rules. All those in favor of suspending the rules, just raise a hand. All right. That passed. Now, if our clerk could give second reading. Okay. In order to suspending the enforcement of certain ordinances and providing the mayor with the criteria and procedures to temporary closed public streets to permit the temporary use of parking lots, Rotherham Park, and closed public streets for outdoor dining and retail in order to better allow individuals and businesses to comply with the social distancing and other health and safety requirements and business reopening requirements issued by the Governor and to slow the spread of COVID-19 within less Tennessee counties to sending applicable fees to certain permits and setting requirements for interest retail businesses and restaurants and restaurants effective upon pass-diver counsel until 12 a.m. June 24, 2020, as amended. Thank you. Now, do I hear a motion to approve? So moved. Second. All right. We have a motion and a second. And I'll ask the clerk to take the roll call vote. Is someone trying to speak? No? Okay. okay council member farmer there you go okay feedback that's all yeah okay very good i'm gonna mute you thank you all right now if you'll call the vote please uh mr farmer the mayor muted me i vice mayor k yes yes ma'am mr mccurray yes ma'am mr maloney yes miss miss Musadi? Ms. Plowin? Yes. Ms. Reynolds? Yes. Mr. Swanson? Yes. Mr. Worley? Yes, ma'am. Ms. Bledsoe? Yes, ma'am. Mr. James Brown? Yes. Mr. Fred Brown? Yes. Mr. Ellinger? Yes, ma'am. Ms. Evans? Yes. Thank you. Thank you very much. That motion passed unanimously. And council members, I just want to thank you. We are in the strangest place right now. And I think every one of you and every one of us is trying to do the best we can. So I appreciate your patience. And this, I believe, will be a really great thing for our community. So next is public comment. And let me see if there's anybody in the queue. There is not. So with that, I would ask for a motion to adjourn. So moved. Second. Thank you. All those in favor, raise a hand. OK, we are adjourned. Thank you very much. Thank you.