We are on the air. Thank you. Welcome everyone. It's 3 o'clock, February 23, 2021. And this is the Lexington Fayette Urban County Council work session. And I'll start our meeting with our COVID statement. Due to the COVID-19 pandemic and state of emergency, this meeting is being held via live video teleconference pursuant to 2020 Senate Bill 150 and in accordance with KRS 61.826 because it is not feasible to offer a primary physical location for this meeting. Welcome everyone and we do have a quorum. So first up is public comment and I'll ask our council administrator if we have folks who want to comment. We do not have any comment today. Okay, thank you. And next is requested rezonings and docket approval. Could I have a motion please to approve the docket? Move to approve. Second. Thank you. Council Member Ellinger moved approval. Council Member Plowman seconded. So are there any walk-ons, any other motions? Vice Mayor Kay. Thank you, Mayor. I move to place on the docket for the February 25, 2021 meeting a resolution allowing deductions taken in accordance with public law number 1116, I'm sorry, 116-260, section 276, for the purposes of calculating a business net profit as it pertains to the urban county's occupational license fee for the tax year 2020 in order to provide for the same tax treatment of payroll protection program loans as the federal government. So move. Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Council Member Bledsoe. Before we have discussion, Council Members, you will recall you were I sent you an email yesterday about this and as I understand it the state is considering this this week and Louisville has already done this so what kind of questions or comments do you have Councilmember Bledsoe? Thank you Mayor and thank you for taking action on this so quickly about two weeks ago I started getting questions from people wanting to know how to verify this on their taxes and how to move forward the appropriate way as the federal government changed their legislation, knowing that Frankfurt was a well, I think it's really important that we're consistent to reflect both of those things. And there's a great benefit to those in our city who need that. So I appreciate it. I support it. And thank you so much. Thank you. I think it's the right thing to do. Now, we will take a, you know, it will have a fairly big impact on our revenues. and I'm sure if you want to hear any more about that, there's someone in the council chamber who can speak to it, but I do think it's the right thing to do for our businesses. Councilmember James Brown. Sorry, Mayor, I didn't have any comment on that. I got to walk on. Oh, okay. Councilmember Ellinger. Thank you, Mayor. Yeah, if you don't mind having whoever's there to kind of explain the process, the program, and how this will affect the government and the businesses that can apply for it. Yes. Oh, Wesley. Welcome. Mayor, Councilmembers, so by allowing the same tax treatments of PPP loans on your net profits as you do federally, this will allow any expenses that businesses took when they got a PPP loan to be deducted from their net profits. And so what the result of that will be is any business that received those funds will have less taxable income that they would then pay their two and a quarter percent on for their business taxes. That will result in a revenue reduction in our net profits, both whenever we have tax time on April 15th, and then also extension payers. But based on available data, we think that the next year impact is going to be relatively small. And also the current year impact, we haven't revised up our estimate for net profits. And so even though there's going to be a lot of noise with businesses who may have performed better during the pandemic or worse, that we should be able to see a decent result even with this coming program. And what kind of numbers are you looking at for businesses to report and how they affect our revenues? With the current year payers, we're anticipating a lot of that noise because we don't really know what the result is going to be until we open the mail. And with the PPP loans, the actual data relative to Fayette County is really difficult to sort of decode. I think we're looking at maybe a couple million dollars, and that's what we would look to for a reduction in net profits for the coming year. We might see some additional impact or maybe less. It just depends on who has nexus here, who has a big deal, and what size of loan they had. Okay, so for budgeting purposes for us, you're looking at, for this coming year, a couple million is what you're thinking? So we think that that's probably for the extension payers, which is who would see that impact in the coming year. That's probably the high end of the estimate. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Wes. Thank you, Mayor. You're welcome, Wes. Also, I saw some numbers on averages. You might speak a little bit about what the average to a business owner might be that they would recoup and what those kinds of things are. Right. So the average loan size that we saw through the data that we have access to is a little over $100,000. And so for a business, that would be a savings of about $2,500 on their tax payment for net profits. Thank you. Some would be more, some would be less. Okay, thank you. Are there other questions while Wes is at the podium? All right. Thank you, Wes. Appreciate it. Any other comments or questions about the motion? All right. Seeing none, all those in favor of adding this to the docket, please raise your hand. Is anyone opposed? Same sign. That motion passes. Thank you, Vice Mayor, for that. Council Member James Brown. Thank you, Mayor. On behalf of the administration, I move to place on the docket for the February 25, 2021 Council Meeting a resolution authorizing the approval of Exxon Enterprise Incorporated as a sole source provider for the purchase of body-worn cameras and associated fees and licenses for the Division of Police and authorizing the mayor to execute any agreements necessary for the purchase of this equipment at a cost not to exceed $124,422. So moved. Second. House member Worley seconds that. Are there questions or comments about the motion? All right. I see none. All those in favor of the motion, please raise your hand. Anyone opposed? Same sign. Okay, that motion passes. Is there anything else for the docket or rezoning? Okay, all those in favor of the motion to approve the docket as amended, please raise your hand. Anyone opposed? Same sign. All right, that motion passes. Thank you very much. Could I have a motion now on approval of the February 9th summary? I moved. Second. Council Member Plumman moves and Vice Mayor Kay seconds approval. Are there any questions? Comments? All those in favor, please raise your hand. Anyone opposed? Same sign. All right, that motion passes. Next is budget amendments. Did I have a motion, please? Don't be shy. So moved. Thank you. Council Member Lamb moves, and I think, did I see Council Member Baxter second? All right. Please log in if you have questions about budget amendments. no okay all those in favor of budget amendments please raise your hand mayor yeah okay councilmember Ellinger has a question yeah I I thought somebody might bring it up so the one about the salt and how and how do we end with that yep that is one two seven three seven four is commissioner albright in the chamber there you are yes ma'am about that what was the question again council member ellinger it's just on how are we doing on our with the last three winter storms that have rolled through here and it's starting to melt and how are we doing on salt and then we're taking them from the the fire hydrant rentals how's that work well now the part about the fire hydrant rentals i'm kind of hoping somebody else is going to get up and ask and answer but the quantity of salt we have we are a little low we do receive a small shipment every day from haynes and detroit salt we are trying to get a hold of them to see when we can fulfill we actually have this order already in the process and we are um calling them daily to see how we're doing on getting the we have 3 000 tons almost still to be delivered off of this order so they are they're a little slow delivering what we are hoping to replenish our stock we have enough right now that if we have another event we would be okay but that would be about it that was be my next question so we're good for one more event and and if we had three back-to-backs like we did we'd be in trouble yes sir get a little slippery out there okay and here and then the second the second part about the fire hydrant yes sir here comes count uh commissioner hansley thank you yes sir so we budget all of our utilities globally we budget them across the um the government and when we were taking a look at some of the items that we are showing savings in there are a variety of them we took some of the first salt out of electric because it was it's running under budget and then one of the other utility items is the fire hydrant rentals that has to do with our kentucky american water and what runs through there so we have identified savings in that account and been able to access some of that to this point um in in as far as your question about future salt we are looking for at this time some additional funds um to be able to reallocate for if we have another winter event and going ahead and making sure that that's available should we need it and and where are we looking at those funds coming from um right now we're looking at the debt service um as we've mentioned we were able to refinance and save some money on our debt service payments so that is one um good place to look at at the moment okay thank you for those updates thank you mayor thank you thank you commissioners um any other questions about budget amendments all right now we will vote all those in favor please raise your hand anyone opposed same sign all right that motion passes next is new business could i have a motion please. So move. Okay. Councilmember Plowman moves. Councilmember Lamb seconds. Please log in with your questions about new business. Councilmember Plowman. I had a question. Director Duncan or Mr. Atkins if you're there. This had to do with letter M and it looks like back in 17 there was an error with the Minicode publication. And I'm just trying to find out what that error was and with having to readopt, what does that mean? So I don't know who's there, but I just wanted a clarification of that. And this was for the ED zone. Sally, CAO Hamilton. I certainly cannot answer the question. I think there is no one in chamber, but I would think Jim Duncan is on here. Stacey, is Jim here? Yes, ma'am. I'll pull him in. Okay, please. Thank you, Sally. welcome director duncan thank you mayor there's very little i can do on this end to let you all know that i'm here i was screaming at the computer but only sally hamilton could hear me so i'm glad she did i'm so sorry council member cloman to address your question this is really more of a of them uh and not really meaning to pass the buck but this is really more of a muni code issue rather than than anything else uh these corrections or these changes were made to the ed zone uh by the by the council and uh and what is in the muni code is not what the council changed so what we're really just trying to do is make sure the muni code reflects the correct zoning prior to the transfer everything was correct at the transfer it wasn't so we've identified this and we feel that the best way to do that is to go through this process rather than just to ask muni code to make the correction but to actually go through this formal process but nothing is changing in the ed zone than what you had already approved okay so it was like an entry that was incorrect uh really a transfer when we transfer from one one format to another that that translation did not quite catch on this in this particular instance. All right. That clears it up. Thank you, Director Duncan. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Other questions about new business? Anybody? All right. All those in favor of approving new business, please raise your hand. Okay. Anyone opposed? Same sign. All right. That motion passes. now we have continuing business first is if i could have a motion please for neighborhood development funds move approval second thank you uh vice mayor kay moved and council member baxter seconded are there any questions all those in favor of approval please raise your hand oh i'm sorry council member warley has a question yeah thank you mayor i have an amendment actually i move to amend the neighborhood development funds to add $300 to the Henry Clay lacrosse team boosters. So moved. All right. Is there a second? Second. Vice Mayor Kay seconds. Any questions? All those in favor, please raise your hand. Anyone opposed? Same sign. Okay. Very good. That passes. Any other questions or comments about Neighborhood Development Fund motion? All right. All those in favor of the amended, please raise your hand. Anyone opposed? Same sign. All right. That motion passes. Next up is Councilmember Bledsoe with Budget Finance and Economic Development. Thank you, Mayor. I have two. The first is a report out of the summary motions made at the January 26, 2021 meeting. The first item on the agenda was the election of a committee chair. A motion was made by Council Member Fred Brown, seconded by Council Member Ellinger to nominate Council Member Bledsoe as the chair of the committee, and it passed without consent. I selected Council Member Ellinger to be the Vice Chair of the Committee and he agreed to serve in that role. The Committee then approved the December 1st, 2020 summary. And then we had the annual status review of committee referrals. We noted several items that need to be removed and one item needs a new Council Member sponsor. A full review of the items referred to this Committee was deferred to the February meeting. Next we heard from Aaron Hensley and Wes Holbrook. They presented the financials the first two quarters of fiscal year 21, highlighting a a one-time $4 million transfer from the insurance fund in a positive variance in revenues over the budget. Total expenses had a positive variance of $16 million. Fiscal year 2021 was budgeted to use $36 million in one-time funds, but as of this point, they've only accessed $4 million of that total. Next, G. Jones of Strathman & Company reviewed the CAFR for 2020. They issued a clean or unmodified opinion again this year, the highest level opinion LFUCG can receive. They also reported there were no uncorrected misstatements or difficulties with dealing with management. Next, Dr. Mike Clark presented the economic indicators for Lexington and reviewed employment by sector and regional wage trends. He noted that employment is growing slowly in Lexington, but is down 6,100 jobs year over year. He projects payroll tax at fiscal year 2021 to total $203 million and $208.1 million in fiscal year 2022. Net profit is projected to bounce back in fiscal year 2021, totaling $43.5 million and then to return to trend in fiscal year 2022 at $44.9 million. Dr. Clark discussed contributing factors for economic recovery, noting that forecasts have a short shelf life. Lastly, Hillary and Lucy provided a quick review of the LFUCG Property Assessment Subcommittee's interim report, including the framework used to review and rank properties in the preliminary recommendations. The subcommittee recommended the following moving forward with recommendations for Arts, Place, Morton House, The Nest, and the Old Fire Station 2. I made the motion seconded by Councilor Maloney to instruct the administration to move forward with the transfer of ownership for those three properties, and it passed without dissent. Vice Mayor Kay has been exploring the interest and consideration for revenue increases in the upcoming year, but it's concluded now is not the time to move forward, and the item remained in committee. We adjourned at 2.58. And then today, this is a partial report out for today's February 23, 2021 Budget Finance Committee meeting. At the BFED committee today, we discussed the Palmer Pharmacy Building and how the RFP has not received any proposals. Council Member James Brown and Sally Hamilton explained the intention to move forward with the funds approved under the Coronavirus Relief Funds fund balance in the fall of 2020 for the facility in the corner of 5th and Chestnut Streets. This would cover environmental remediation, roof repairs, and some building stabilization construction. A motion was made by James Brown, seconded by Worley, to authorize the administration to move forward with up to $300,000 allocated to remediate and stabilize the Palmer Farmer Stability. On behalf of the committee, I step move. Is there a second? Second. Council Member James Brown, I heard your voice. Is there a second? Is there a discussion of the motion? All right. Seeing none, all those in favor, please raise your hand. Is anyone opposed? Same sign. Okay. That motion passes. That concludes my report. Thank you, Mayor. Okay. Great. Thank you very much. All right. Next, we're on to council reports. So please go ahead and log in. Vice Mayor Kay. Thank you, Mayor. In the last few days, questions have increasingly been raised concerning LFUCG's workplace harassment policy and process. So in an effort to ensure full transparency and to reinforce the existing policies for our workforce, I'm requesting that our Division of Human Resources make a presentation to the Council at our next work session about those policies and the way they are implemented throughout city government. In addition, it is my understanding that the present policy dictates that all workplace harassment complaints received by human resources will be addressed. That policy would include the harassment allegations brought to the council's attention during the recent police disciplinary hearing. That investigation and HR will proceed since the charges are no longer pending. It's imperative that we reiterate to all employees in every department and to the public that LFUCG does not tolerate workplace harassment and that we take all allegations seriously. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you very much. All right. Council Member Lamb. Thank you, Mayor, and thank you, Vice Mayor, for that statement. I just wanted to reach out to my constituents in the 4th District and say, you know, if you're experiencing problems with the snow removal or ice removal, you know, please reach out to me and let me know. I have heard from a few people over the past weekend after the major event pretty much has happened. And I just want people to know if you reach out to me, I can provide assistance and we can address specific areas when there are areas of need. And also, I just want to give a great big shout out to every single employee, LFUCG employee, and that worked over this past week. um you know that's been 2015 maybe was the last one that maybe that i remember being so bad but um i just know that i felt like that everybody was taking heed staying off the roads as much as they could and um i just but i know that our all of our employees not just streets and roads but all the employees that were helping out with it uh they've done a wonderful job and i appreciate all their work, all the long hours, and just it always has to go and be spoken that how much I appreciate everything, and so do my constituents for everything they've done, and thank you for your leadership, Mayor. Thank you, and I really appreciate that. We had many employees who worked those 12-hour shifts for nine days. And it was water quality. It was streets and roads. It was, of course, police and fire were doing their safety part. It was a huge concerted effort. And then Polly, with our homelessness program, of course, was getting street outreach teams to get people in out of the cold. It was a major effort. So we do appreciate your comments and all our great employees. So Council Member Worley. Thank you, Mayor. First, I want to address so that my constituents know, but also my colleagues. As you know, I was absent from the police disciplinary hearing last Thursday, and I'm very sorry for that. I wish I could have been here with you. I and my wife were part of the collateral damage of traveling when an ice storm goes apart across the entire country. We were supposed to be home several days before we were and found ourselves stranded and I was unable to be there with you. So I apologize because those are the days that we all want to do this together and be a part of. That's part of the reason you do this job. But I know it was a hard day, and I want to thank you all on behalf of my constituents and myself for the hard work that you did. I know you're all's judgment in your hearts, and I know that you worked very hard there, and so I'm sorry I couldn't be there with you. By way of announcement, I also do want to thank the Streets and Roads Department for all their hard work during this weather event, particularly Director Allen. I want to say, you know, not always can a truck get to a street or neighborhood immediately. But the whole team, and particularly director, was available, answering questions, giving feedback, so that we could keep our constituents up to date on what was going on. And if we couldn't get a truck there that night, we could tell them why and when they might expect it. And that's just unbelievably value, and we appreciate that partnership. And then school is back. And with that, there's a lot of excitement, but there are traffic issues, And so I just want to tell folks, Brenda Cowan School, I think, had a little bit of a hiccup yesterday with traffic backing up on Athens Boonsboro Road when they dismissed. And we'll let you know and particularly thank Commander Harris, an East Sector Patrol commander who's working with Lieutenant Sims and Sergeant Young of the Fayette County School Police. And they are working with Principal Williams to redesign the way that they're going to dismiss. and that's going to come into place in the next couple days. Principal Williams will be getting that out. So be patient. Know that both the Lexington Police Department and the Fayette County Police Department are doing what they can to make sure you get in and out of there safely. And then also Representative Sherilyn Stevens and I have worked today with the state highway traffic engineer and our traffic engineers here at the city to make sure that the flashing lights are on and that everything is designed and working the way it's supposed to. So if you notice the hiccup, we've worked diligently to fix that hiccup and hopefully in and out of school will be exciting and safe and there won't be any delays or problems. So thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member Plowman. Thank you, Mayor. I wanted to share with my colleagues in the administration that I will be recusing myself for the Blackburn zone change next Tuesday, March the 2nd. My family has a financial interest in the adjoining property there, so I will be recusing myself. And then I did want to share some really exciting news with you, and that is the old Frankfurt Pike. Up into the Franklin border there has been recognized by the Federal Highway Administration as being a National Scenic Byway designation. And there's only, I believe there was 150 or something like that in the country. And so this is really exciting. A lot of our horse farms are out there on Old Frankfort Pike. And it is a gorgeous drive. And I'm sure that you've all done that before. But we will be getting, the governor's going to be making an announcement very soon. But it's a real feather in our hat. And especially so proud for the 12th District to get that designation into the district. So I wanted to share that happy news. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, and it is a big deal and took a lot of work on many people's parts, so thank you. Councilmember Sheehan. Thank you, Mayor. Colleagues, as you are aware, Councilmember Lamb and I have been working on an item we would like to bring to committee, so I'm going to make a motion for that. I move to place into the General Government and Social Services Committee a review of the proposed LGBTQ Youth Mental Health Protection Ordinance to introduce the ordinance and to present on the issue of LGBTQ youth mental health. So moved. Second. Council Member Lamb seconds. Are there any questions about the motion? Council Member Bledsoe. Thank you. I don't have a question. I know the state is dealing with this issue. And if it pleases the committee, I would prefer to have them just work through that if they can before we hear it. And I know that just because that'd be helpful. That being said, I support it going to committee and working on it. Any other comments or questions? Okay. Let's see. Anything else about the motion? Okay. All those in favor, please show your hand. Anyone opposed? Same sign. All right. We have one no vote. Council Member Brown, that passes. Anything else? Council Member Sheehan? No, thank you, Mayor. Okay. Councilmember Maloney. Thank you, Mayor. I just want to, last week I commend all the streets, roads, and parks and everybody for helping, but there's another group that I found out that really went out and did it more than they were supposed to, and that's the police department. They went under bridges. They went everywhere to find homeless people, and I want to thank them for their hard work cold weather. Thanks the police department for their help. And also, Mayor, I want to thank your staff who called me and told me that Walgreens was starting to give the shot for my age. And I don't want to tell anybody how old I am, but I guess since I'm eligible now, and I waited, but I was able to get on the list. So I want everybody to know that Walgreens is also doing the shot. And I got on today when I found out and I got an appointment real soon. And so I want to thank you all for helping me out. Thank you. It was our pleasure. And Walgreens will get vaccine every week. So they'll have, I know, I think Craig told me they're closed now. They filled their appointments for this week, but they'll have more for next week. So walgreens.com, people can go on there and make an appointment. so I'm very glad that you got yours Councilmember Maloney. Councilmember McCurn. Thank you. I wanted to echo my appreciation for all of our employees this past week and thank them for all being out and all the work that they've done. Councilmember Plumman brought it up just a few minutes ago but just as a brief reminder next Tuesday we will have our Blackburn hearing on Tuesday, March 2nd at 5 p.m. We've gone through two different tests. One that we went through a procedural test and it went very smoothly and then we answered questions for both the opposition and the applicant councils. And I'm looking forward to moving forward with opening this back up in front of our council. So I appreciate everyone's efforts to make that happen. Thank you. Okay, thank you. Councilmember James Brown. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. I just have a few things. I would, I'd just like to piggyback off of Councilmember Worley's comments about Director Allen, Rob Allen. I know I called him last week and he was hard at work but responsive to the issues that I brought forward and I appreciate that and everybody involved with the storm reaction. The other thing I'd like to bring up and talk about is with the category that we're in now as far as vaccinations, and I think a lot of our employees fall into that category, are we still working and trying to see if our clinic can provide vaccinations and are we allowing our employees the opportunity to to go get vaccinated during work hours? The as far as our clinic they've been Sam Brown Clinic's been approved to give them but they can't get vaccine so that's the issue many more providers are approved than can get the vaccine. So as soon as, you know, more vaccine can come, and if some of it can go to them, which is determined by the state, then they will be able to give it. So the second part of that question is what about allowing them to make appointments to get vaccinated during work hours if that's when their appointments are made? Is that something that we're allowing and consider? I think it probably is, but I'm not the expert on this because you have to take the appointment when you can get it, right? So is there anybody who wants to officially address that? I mean, I don't think we would tell an employee they can't get it during work hours if they can get an appointment, right, Mr. Maxwell? Absolutely. We're working with all employees on trying to to get that now they would have to take their personal time but uh yeah certainly we we wouldn't prevent somebody from from getting that once they get an appointment okay well yeah well i think that's important and maybe you know i don't know what all the policies are that surround that but maybe we ought to look into uh making it to where that that time is covered for them to get you know to get that taken care of but that this may it may be something that you need to look into it's sort of like a doctor's appointment right we don't you know i mean it would i probably ought to let the hr director talk yeah that's exactly right it's like any other doctor's appointment but we we're very flexible and as soon as somebody gets it we we let them get off to get it okay okay and then the and thank you thank you for that and answering that answering that question. The other thing is I'd like to thank the vice mayor for the statement that he made and kind of the conversations that I've had over the last couple of days with various council members and folks in the community and the public. I think in regards to recent events in the last few days, there's been a lot of conversation around the city's harassment policy. And I think it's good to rehash that to make it understood that there's zero tolerance when it comes to harassment and to let folks know how that reporting goes and how those issues get addressed. And then also the allegations that I think a lot of us have been made aware of. I think the city and what I've been told from my conversations with HR and some folks in law is once something's been public and we've been made aware of it, we have an obligation to investigate it and let that process run its course. So I think that's something that we as a council are concerned about and look forward to that moving forward. And that's throughout all of city government, all of our divisions and all of our departments. And the other thing that I'll say, and we're all looking at ways to be more transparent and to hold folks accountable. and that's in all divisions. But more recently, you know, there's been a lot of focus on our police department. And I think they have taken up the mantle and are working with the administration and with council and everybody to do everything that they can. So Mayor, just, you know, I just want to ask a couple of questions about, you know, I've had some questions about collective bargaining because I think there's opportunity there to address transparency and accountability. Do you have any kind of idea of what the timeline is? I know we're currently in negotiations, but do you all foresee what the projected timeline may be where something council may be presented with a proposal? Are you talking about when the bargaining will be finished? Yes, ma'am, when something may come forward. I, you know, I'm hesitant to predict that. knowing how bargaining goes because one thing can lead to another. I don't know if our attorneys, if there's anybody in the chamber who wants to give a prediction, but I certainly am not ready to say. I know we've been in for a little while. And I apologize. I didn't give you a heads up. I kind of sprung that question, but I just think that as long as folks know that, you know, that process is underway and moving forward. And if you could circle back and just kind of give a projection, because I just don't want it to seem like it's, you know, one of those things that we say we're working on and it's not. And I know that's not the case. No, it's not. And we're into some nitty gritty issues. And we've been in the bargaining for quite some time now. So if we can bring any kind of an idea to you, we will of when we might be finished. Okay. And then the other piece I'll ask you about, and I know we brought Lisa on, or you brought Lisa on, Lisa Higgins-Hord on to work through some of those recommendations, And I think she's right now at the ground level, touching base with folks, getting an understanding of expectations and building some consensus towards working towards those issues. And I think it could help address some of the sentiment that's out in the community. What does that timeline look like? When do you think there may be an opportunity for her to come to council and maybe lay out the plan going forward? I would say what she's doing right now is she's working on partnerships. She's talking with a lot of people at the university, in the community, about, it's been interesting since I asked her to do this and Dr. Capilouto agreed with this. she's had a lot of people step forward and say they want to help. And she's very determined to get the right people in the right seats to do this work. And she's working with a core team of administration folks who have the ability to move things forward in different areas. So her work right now is talking with folks and making those partnerships and getting commitments. So she's not focused right this minute on specific recommendations. She's trying to put a team together of folks who are going to help do this, which is really the first part of any major effort. so yes I think it'll be real important for council to hear an update when she has something to update you on but right now her work is all about conversation and you know who can help with the effort because she can't do it alone she's making great progress on it she has some some deans in the colleges at University of Kentucky who've said we will do what it takes in different areas and that kind of thing. Tyler wants to talk. Sorry if I may, I'd be remiss if I didn't add in because Lisa does hammer this point home. The intentionality of her efforts is really about building the structure so it's whatever she develops now sustainable for the long term. It's not just trying to establish quick wins and to make it feel like we're making progress that can be undone in the future. So her path right now is really working hard with several of our own employees who've committed a lot of their own full-time work to doing this, but also building long-term sustainable partnerships, private and public inside UK, around the community, and even across the nation with a lot of our larger corporations. So she's establishing a larger long-term footprint that allow us to continue to make progress, not just on the recommendations in the report, but on so many other things that will come along and that the report just didn't pick up along its work. Yeah, and I appreciate that update. I think the point that I was hoping to make is that I think the administration's committed. I think our divisions throughout government, police being one of them, and the chief are committed, as well as this council, we're trying to work to better the processes and be reflective and have processes that are reflective of what the community expects. So So thank you for that update, and we'll keep working at it together. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for that, Tyler. And what you said is important. It's going to take every one of us, all the folks you mentioned, the council, the administration, it's going to take all of us to make this happen and move it into the sustainable program that Lisa envisions for our community so that when individual people go away, the efforts don't go away. So it's pretty exciting. After Council Member Maloney speaks, I want to give you an update on the presentation you requested for Tuesday. Council Member Maloney. Thank you, Mary. I just want to follow up what Council Member Brown said. on the two both things on the on the taking employees taking off you know they give off when they give blood they get half a day off I don't think you need to have but I would classify this similar to giving blood because you're saving people's lives and you're saving yourself life so I would look at the definition of how you give blood off and get half not that you may not need that much time but I would put in that class as the same as giving blood the second thing that he brought up and I appreciate him bringing that up is the collective bargain and mayor we've seen your task force come as recommendations on what the place and I know you can't tell us what you're negotiating with but I'm hoping or maybe you might are you some of those recommendations that came out of that task force are you all putting it in with the collective bargain and they're saying the community, the mayor, your staff, and the council, I'm in favor of some of those things. Are we working with the police on making sure that some of those changes are in the collective bargain? And I don't know if legally you can tell me that, but I'm hoping that you are working with that. And if you can't tell me, I understand. Well, I will definitely take that into consideration. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. So, as you all know, collective bargaining is not discussed outside the bargaining. So, and believe me, those recommendations are important to me. So I wanted to just tell you that the CAO Hamilton said there's a big problem with submitting the presentation that you requested for Tuesday. They don't think they can get it into Stacy tomorrow. They can still do the presentation on Tuesday, but you may not get the actual documents that they'll be giving. until maybe late Friday or early Monday. So I hope that's acceptable. This is like quarter to four today and it needs to be turned in tomorrow and that's pretty impossible. CAO Hamilton, we're going to do our best. That's correct, Mayor. We'll either have it to Stacey Friday night or first thing Monday so that you'll have it at least 36 hours before that work session. Yeah, I hope that works. Thank you. Thank you. If I may, Vice Mayor, since I made the request, I think everybody on council understands that this is a request for quick action and warranted given the situation. that we would all understand if it's as late as Monday and we can't meet the usual parameters for getting something in front of council in the packet. So as I usually say, I can't speak for council, but I believe that everybody would understand that. So thank you. And I appreciate the quick response. So thank you. We appreciate it. We just want it to be a good presentation. Yes. They need some time. Thank you. Thank you. Very good. Thank you. Any other council reports? All right. We do have a brief mayor's report. If I could have a motion to approve. Move approval. Second. All right. Vice Mayor Kay moves approval. Council Member Lamb seconds. Are there any questions? All right. All those in favor, please show your hand. all right anyone opposed same sign okay that passes and then I had one other thing I wanted to mention those of you who've been around government a long time remember Dale Toma who was our director of the division of planning and he was he passed recently and his obituary was in, I believe, maybe yesterday's paper or the day before. And Dale, he was the director of planning for 21 years, long time. And I wanted to read you something that he said at his retirement in 2001. So he retired 20 years ago. He said, of the Division of Planning's many Awards, I'm most proud of the 1991 American Institute of Certified Planners Award when the urban service area concept was recognized as a national historic planning landmark. Leading the planning for the development of the city of Lexington was the honor of his life, and he was so proud to have served 35 years in his field of planning. He was a dedicated professional. So I want to send my thoughts and prayers to Nancy, his wife and his family. And he was a great guy. So with that, we're at our adjournment, if there's nothing else. So if I could have a motion, please. I moved. Second. All right. Council Member Plumman moved and council members Lamb and Ellinger seconded. All right, all those in favor, please show your hand. Anybody opposed? No, we are adjourned. Thank you so much. Have a great evening. Thank you. Oh, right. Thank you. Thank you.