You say it isn't so painful to tell me that you're dissatisfied. The last time I asked you, I really got a lame excuse. I know that you lied. Now wicked things can happen. You see, I'm going down and bored. But when you play in a quiet way That bites it even more Thank you. Welcome, everyone. I'd like to go ahead and call to order the Lexington Fayette Urban County Council meeting of Thursday, June 24, 2020. And I'll first ask the clerk to call the roll. Yes, ma'am. Ms. Legree? Yes. Mr. McKern? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Maloney? Yes, ma'am. Ms. Plowman? Yes. Ms. Reynolds? Yes. Ms. Sheehan? Yes. Mr. Worley? Yes, ma'am. Ms. Baxter? Yes, ma'am. Ms. Bledsoe? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Fred Brown? Here. Mr. James Brown? Here. Mr. Ellinger? Yes, ma'am. Vice Mayor Kay? Here. Mr. Koiber? Yes, ma'am. And Ms. Lamb? Here. Thank you. Thank you very much. We have a quorum. And before we have our invocation, I'd just simply like to welcome you all. This is the first Thursday night meeting where we've had a packed house in person. And so we do have a few guidelines that the council follows in its meeting. And I thought since it's been a long time since we have had this sort of a meeting with this many people, I might mention a few things. We like to keep a certain sense of decorum so we can move through the meeting in a timely fashion. So we discourage booing and clapping and whatever, you know, that kind of thing because of the council. And the council does not allow anyone to hold a sign that blocks someone's view behind you. Just common courtesy. and if you're signed up for public comment, you will come to the podium here when I call your name and you'll give your name, your council district, or if you're not from Lexington, your city, and you'll each have three minutes to speak. So welcome, everyone. And I'd like to welcome Councilmember Lamb to give our invocation. Thank you, Mayor. I would like to share, start out with my daily devotion, and it's called Our Reflex. Now it came to pass when the time had come for him to be received up, that he steadfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem and sent messengers before his face, and as they went, they entered the village of the Samaritans to prepare him. But they did not receive him, because his face was set for the journey to Jerusalem. and when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, do you want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did? But he turned and rebuked them and said, You do not know what manner of spirit you are of, for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives but to save them, and they went to another village. Look at how Jesus dealt with embarrassment and rejection. He was walking along the way to Jerusalem and wanted to stop at a Samaritan village, but before he could settle in, the villagers rejected him and sent him on his way. The disciples welled up with righteous indignation and threats of holy fire, but Jesus simply said, I am not here to condemn them, quite the opposite. I wanted them to be saved. Now will you please join me in prayer. Almighty God, who created us in your own image, grant us grace fearlessly to contend against evil and to make no peace with oppression. and that we may reverently use our freedom, help us to employ it in the maintenance of justice in our communities and among the nations. To the glory of your holy name, through Jesus Christ our Lord, who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, one God, now and forever. Amen. Thank you. Thank you, Councilmember Lamb. I'd like to entertain a motion to approve the June 10th and June 15th council meeting minutes, please. Move approved. Second. All right, thank you, Council Member McCurn and Vice Mayor Kay. Are there any questions? All right, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? All right, that motion passes. next we have two public hearings and then later in the meeting council members will have a third public hearing so i'd like to go ahead and open the public hearing for the downtown lexington management district fiscal year 22 budget so the meeting is open is there anyone who wishes to speak okay i see no one then i'll go ahead and close the meeting public hearing excuse me the next public hearing is the spiegel heights industrial revenue bond and i would like to go ahead and open that public hearing and ask if there's anyone who wishes to comment please come to the podium and you'll need to state your name and your council district or your city if you're from a different city and you'll have three minutes to speak welcome hi i'm danny mayor i'm in the first district and about a block from the vice mayor I've been following the Astana IRB and the Herald Leader and I've also done a little writing for it myself for North of Center community newspaper and I feel like you all have spent a lot of time and actually have discussed what Astana is going to bring with tax breaks I don't think I've heard any discussion publicly or actually at the meetings that I've watched on what actually is going to be lost, what are the subsidies? And I'm not sure if you all are just plain old ignorant or whether you're being strategically ignorant. So I'm here today just on the hopes that you all are plain old ignorant. So let's start with the federal investment here. An IRB and the reason why you're holding this meeting is for an industrial revenue bond. The reason why Astana wants an IRB is because it gives them a discount on their loan that they're going to get from the bank or from the bondholders. Research that I've seen is it's about a 2% discount. So if you look at that, that's about an $800,000 a year subsidy that they'll get from this. If we add that up by the 40 years, that's about $32 million. That's, I know that our lawyer for the city, David Barbary, has said that there's been no impact on citizens. I don't know about you all. I'm actually an American. So these are federal tax breaks. So that's $32 million in federal tax breaks over 40 years. I'm also not sure if anybody has been aware, it hasn't been discussed, that there's also a state tourism grant or loan, or I don't know what it is, $7.2 million, put in July 15th, 2020. I'm not sure if that's passed. I've contacted Mona Jewett at the Kentucky Tourism place. She hasn't contacted me back. It's been about six days. So I'll let you know if I hear something with that. You all have talked about the pilot taxes, which are the local ad valorem taxes, they want an IRB, but in order for them to get the IRB, right, they've got to sign over their property over to you all, and therefore they don't have to pay property taxes. So you all have talked about local ad valorem taxes. It's for everybody else. It's 1.2777 for $100. So if I were doing this at $30 million assessment, I would pay $383,000 a year or $15.3 million over 40. The Astana, as far as I can tell, is going to be at a rate of 0.5300 per 100. They're going to drop down to $159,000 a year, saving them $224,000 a year and $9 million over 40 years. You all have talked about the pilot taxes. You know, those pilot taxes have been losers for everybody. Sorry, that's my wrong sheet here. Mr. Mayor. Local losers is no garbage collection. Excuse me. No street light cleaning. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but your time is over. I'm sorry, I'll stop. Okay. Thank you very much. If anybody would like to call me back, I'd be happy to conclude and talk a little bit more about the pilots, which I didn't get to. Thank you very much. Is there anyone else who wishes to speak to the Spiegel Heights Industrial Revenue Bond? I don't see anyone, so I will close that public hearing. Now, I believe there is a motion by Council Member McCurring regarding the agenda. Thank you, Mayor. A motion to suspend the rules to have second reading on items number one through six and receive public comment right before item number seven, so move. Second. All right. Is there any question or discussion? All right. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? Right, that motion passes. So what that means is the council will hear the first six ordinances and take their vote, and then there will be public comment before the reading and the vote on number seven. Okay. If our clerk will go ahead and give second reading to ordinances one through six, please. item one an ordinance changing the zone for a single family residential r1c zone to a planned neighborhood residential r3 zone for 5.04 net and gross acre from a single family residential r1t zone to a planned neighborhood residential r3 zone for 0.18 net 0.38 gross acre and from a town townhouse residential r1t zone to a planned neighborhood residential r3 zone for 0.64 net and gross acre for property located 1100 Armstrong mill Road a portion of windell development LLC council district 8 item 2 a resolution creating subsection 529 20 of the code of ordinances of the legs and if a urban county government relating to fee schedule for a fee of fire detection systems of up to 20,000 square feet $275 over 20,000 square feet 275 dollars plus $30 for each additional 10,000 square feet creating section 529 21 of the code of ordinances related to fee schedule to create a fee a fire suppression system for 4 to 25 sprinkler systems $150 26 to 100 sprinkler systems $200 100 to 200 sprinkler systems $250 201 to 300 sprinkler systems $275 a 301 to 400 sprinkler systems 325 401 to 750 sprinkler systems $375 over 750 sprinklers sprinkler systems $375 plus 30 cents per sprinkler over 750 and all other suppression systems 275 item 3 an ordinance amending the author's strength by abolishing one vacant unclassified position of fleet part specialist grade 510 and creating one classified position of service writer grade 510 in in the division of facilities and fleet management effective upon passage of council item four a resolution amending certain of the budget of the Lexington Fair urban county government to reflect current requirements for municipal expenditures and appropriating re-appropriating funds fiscal year 2021 schedule number 51 as amended item five an ordinance amending certain the budgets of the Lexington Fair urban county government to reflect current requirements for fundraising the amount of $2,500 for environmental services green space Commission to assist with the final phase of Dantzler court schedule number 56 and item six an ordinance amending certain of the budgets of the Lexington Fair urban county government to reflect current requirements for funds in the amount of $1,800 for aging and disability services for the purchase of the reopening supplies for satellite location schedule number 55 thank you thank you very much is there a motion to approve thank you councilmember Plowman and councilmember Ellinger and when you're ready madam clerk if you'll take a roll call vote please miss lagreen yes mr. Mr. McCurran? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Maloney? Yes. Ms. Bloman? Yes. Ms. Reynolds? Yes. Ms. Sheehan? Yes. Mr. Worley? Yes, ma'am. Ms. Baxter? Yes, ma'am. Ms. Bledsoe? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Fred Brown? Yes. Mr. James Brown? Yes. Mr. Ellinger? Yes, ma'am. Vice Mayor Kay? Yes. Mr. Kloiber? ma'am and miss lamb yes ma'am thank you thank you very much those all pass now councilmember McCurran made the motion to move public comment to now between before the reading of ordinance number seven so I will ask someone to bring me the list. Thank you. Okie doke. All right. Councilmember James Brown. Thank you, Mayor. I've been made aware that amendment may come forward on this ordinance. Would it be appropriate to have that amendment come forward now before public comment? I think that's up to Council. What's Council's preference? I think it would be good to hear public comment, but... Well, my concern is that the amendment comes after public comment, then folks won't be able to speak to the amendment. So that's what my concern is. Okay, so it would be a first reading anyway, correct, if there's a substitute? Well... Is that correct? Is that correct? And then public comment. Excuse me, I think he's asking that the amendment be made and then further debate postponed until after public comment. Is that correct, Council Member Brown? Because once an amendment, once the motion is made, then there'll be a motion on the floor for debate and there should not be public comment at that point unless, I mean, we certainly could suspend the rule. I believe that rule can be suspended, but I'm asking what your thought process is. Well, I think that's a good suggestion. I would, if nobody is prepared to bring an amendment forward, I would hear the public comment on the ordinance that's before us. And if an amendment is made, I would ask to suspend the rules and allow public comment to the amendment if it passes. Okay. Vice Mayor Kaye. Thank you, Mayor. And this is just for clarification. My understanding is that if something is proposed, it's not an amendment. It is a substitute ordinance. And I don't think it changes the question of whether we want to hear it read and then have public comment before we vote, but it is a substitute amendment. It is a substitute ordinance. So does someone have a motion? How do you want to proceed? First off, we've not had reading yet, correct? No, we have not. First reading. So I think I'm trying to think of the best way to do this because I agree with Council Member Brown that the public ought to be able to know of this amendment and we ought to hear from the amendment, even though this will just be a first reading if the amendment substitute ordinance were to pass, and there would be another opportunity for public comment at the next meeting. Next meeting. And so I think, by general nature, once a motion is on the floor, it is only our debate at that time as how Robert's Rules works. So I don't think that we can – my initial suggestion I don't think actually works. So, Mayor, you are the chair and it is ultimately your ruling. Yes, it sounds Vice Mayor Kay, Council Member Sheehan is next and then Vice Mayor Kay. No, Vice Mayor Kay. And then I'll. So what I would ask my colleagues is to hear the substitute ordinance. And then I would make a motion to suspend our rules and allow for public comment, even though we have a motion on the floor. Because I would agree with Council Member Brown, people are here to comment and the substitute, I don't want to stop litigating the proposed substitute until it's on the floor. But it's significant in terms of answering the question of whether this council will or will not support a ban. Vice Mayor, if you would allow me to offer in our rules a motion taking precedence, which is a motion that can be made on top of an existing motion on the floor, is one to postpone to a certain time. Might I suggest then that we, if the proposed amendment is made and seconded, then someone could propose to postpone to a time certain being after we have heard public comment. I think that will work, sir. Thank you. If my colleagues, we need 10 votes to suspend the rules, but I'm assuming that we'll do that as a courtesy. Thank you. All right. Thank you very much. Now, given all of that, is there a motion? I guess we need to hear the first reading. Of one? There's nothing. There's nothing then. I just want to do it as a substitute ordinance and not read it first. No one's put it on the docket yet, right? So it needs to get on the docket. Yes, yes. We're working our way through all this. So is there a motion? Council Member James Brown? I was going to say with the lack of a motion, I would think we would hear public comment from the ordinance that's on the floor. Okay. Council Member Worley. Well, that throws it because I'm trying to honor my colleague's wishes here. And he initially asked that the amended ordinance be proposed before we hear public comment. And so are you requesting now that we hear the public comment and then if there is a proposal? Then, yes, and then we hear public comment. So we can make a motion to spin the rules and hear public comment. To see if there's additional public comment. If the amendment passes. Does that make sense? Whatever, okay, let me just, so if there's a motion, I heard you say substitute motion, then it would get a first reading. Yeah. I believe there would have to be a motion to suspend our rules at this point and allow for a walk on which would be the substitute. Because it is a substitute. Let's see. You can substitute by way. Of a motion. I'm going to look to Keith Horn. This is procedural, so can you give the council some guidance on what needs to happen if there is a motion for a substitute ordinance? A motion to substitute is more or less an amendment to the ordinance that's on the agenda. If you do not vote for that substitution, it will not be on the docket. It only goes on the docket if you approve the substitution, at which point if you do that, whether you have another period of public comment or public comment after that motion is made, it would get first reading after that if you were holding your vote to put it on the docket until after public comment. It makes sense to me, perhaps, to have public comment, particularly if no one's ready to make the motion to substitute or amend at this point, and then consider whether you want to have public comment on what would essentially be a new matter at that point. Okay. Vice Mayor, you're up. Is this? If I may. I think what the intention here is to give the public an understanding of what a amendment with a substitute ordinance would look like and what it would entail. Because that's essentially what we're here to be talking about. And again, I don't want to litigate in advance. But I believe that, I can't go there, I don't want to go there. All I want to say is, I think we need the public, before they comment, to have an understanding somehow of what is in, what I understand is going to be proposed as a substitute. And that we have a, then they can comment on that as well as the underlying ordinance. And I don't know how to do it. But that's what I'm... That's how I understood that Council Member Brown wanted to do it the first time. That being said, I want to make sure that if we're proceeding that way, that the Council Member, since you were the one that brought this up, Council Member Brown, that you're comfortable with that. Yes, I would be. I guess my intention is that the public is here and they want to speak on the ordinance that's before us, we allow them to do that. If there's an amendment or a substitute ordinance that comes forward and it gets voted on and passed, I'd like them to have the opportunity to speak on that as well since they're here. So if then the amendment is proposed now and they may speak on that amendment, then they will have that opportunity. It will just be in the reverse order. And then we would vote on the amendment. And the normal procedure, if something's going to be amended, is it is amended before it is read. So, and it has to pass. If it passes, the new ordinance will be read as amended. If it doesn't pass, it will be read as second reading of what we have here. So I think you're all kind of saying the same thing in that you would, we all want to hear from the public. And the public's made an effort to be here. We all want the public to understand what they're commenting on, but the council's procedure is to amend something before it's read. I'll add one more thing if I may. If there's a proposed ordinance brought forward, I would like for someone to make copies to pass out to the public that's here so they can see and have in their hands what we're talking about. Can we use the screen? I don't think the screen is sufficient. I'll go make copies if I need to. Okay, let's see. Councilmember Maloney, you haven't spoken. I'm concerned that and I understand we if we read the motion now I Want to be sure that the public has a right time to understand what this motion is and And in the compare what we're doing what we're voting on the the L the second reading of ordinance It's totally different And I just want to be sure that we're not muddy in the water through everybody can understand to be clear I like simple things here simple thing there, but when you're dealing with two things crossing like this It really concerns me now. I don't feel the public getting the right information What they need is my personal feeling and I I am concerned how you all come out with this I know I'm not saying what way I am, but I just want to be sure everybody Understand what this ordinance and then when you're trying to compare with the other one I just think it's gonna dilute everything that I'm just worried about I like everything to be simple, one here and one there. And I think, I don't think we're doing that. That's just my opinion. The, I just want to reiterate though, and Keith, maybe you can say yay or nay, the council's process is in every meeting, if you want to amend an ordinance or a resolution, You make your motion right before that ordinance or resolution is read. If it gets the votes that it needs, it is amended and read as amended. That is your process. You don't ever veer from that. So that's how amendments happen. The issue of public comment is up to you as to when you want to hear it. and how you want to hear it and that sort of thing. And public comment, you're right, normally is on what the ordinance or resolution says. I need to raise a point of order. All right. And respectfully kind of disagree, not with what our normal procedure is, but whether we have the opportunity to amend and abandon our usual procedure with ten votes. We can overrule, with ten votes we can suspend the rules and we can proceed in a different way. And what I'm hearing from my colleagues is that what we want to do is we would like to have the public have information about this amendment and be able to comment on that as well. And if what it takes is suspending the rules to do that, I would make that motion. Keith's in agreement, I think. I think you're right, but all of this presupposes that someone's going to make a motion to amend this. We, okay, so maybe we can answer that question very easily. And informally ask if anybody is planning to bring forth an amendment that has a substitute ordinance. Councilmember Worley. Thank you, Mayor. And to your question, Vice Mayor, and I was going to suggest this, I do intend to bring forward a substitute amendment. And I will, of course, explain the reason that I'm bringing it forward. I believe it's a compromise that I hope we can work towards. I'm happy to articulate what that will be even prior to public comment, but yes, I intend to propose a substitute ordinance. In which case, I would move to suspend our rules and allow for the information that's contained in that amendment, proposed amendment, to be circulated to the public and to be either read or whatever has to happen informally so that they know what is being proposed. Because what's at issue is whether this is in fact a compromise or is it an abandonment. That's what's at issue, as I understand it, with the proposed substitution. Some people think it's a compromise. Some people think it does not do what the underlying ordinance intends to do. And that's, I think, what's at issue. So we have no motion. I'll call on Council Member Reynolds, who's signed up to speak. Thank you, Mayor. And I appreciate Council Member James Brown's comments about this. And I just think that it's really important that all of the people that came here tonight have the opportunity to speak on what we are proposing. And right now, we have what's up there is what we are proposing. And so if an amendment is brought forward, I think that tonight they should have the opportunity to speak on that amendment. So I think that we need to find out a way to make that happen. And I hope that we're in agreement for that. Thank you. All right. Is there a motion? There has to be a motion. I believe if the motion is made and then I would like to make a motion to suspend the rules. Yes, Council Member Worley. Thank you, Mayor. And for all of you, thank you for enduring that parliamentary discussion that we had. And truly it is because this is an issue that we want everyone to be heard. I have been clear in my opinion of this issue that in the instance of human safety being at risk, whether that be a target of an investigation, a police officer, or a bystander, that the tool of a no-knock warrant should be available to our law enforcement officials. I have listened to many of my constituents and all of our constituents, and one issue that continues to come up over and over is the use of no-knock warrants for the preservation of evidence. I also agree that that use is in most part inappropriate. I have always held the position that this tool should be available for our officers for the preservation of life. But regulating this tool and not using it for inappropriate purposes is appropriate. it. So I'm proposing a substitute ordinance in place of number seven on the docket that would largely mirror almost verbatim mirror Senate Bill 4's language as to the regulation of as to the regulation of no-knock warrants. This is similar to what Council Member Lamb proposed. However, it would expressly ban the use of no-knock warrants solely for the purpose of preservation of evidence and it would add not only that the chief of police must be consulted but also the Commissioner of Public Safety and the mayor along with as Senate bill 4 required the Commonwealth or County Attorney I believe that this highly regulates the use of something that is already used so rarely I believe it allows for the tool for our officers in in the event that human safety is at risk. And I believe that this accomplishes many of our community's goals in trying to make this a highly regulated, rarely used tool. So that being said, I move to replace, to substitute number seven in our ordinance, 0572-21, for an ordinance enacting section 2351 of the code of ordinances of the Lexington Fayette urban County government regulating the use of no-knock warrants by the division of police banning the use of no-knock warrants by the division of police solely for the purpose of preventing the loss or destruction of evidence and requiring any Lexington police officer involved in executing a no-knock warrant to be equipped with an active with a equipped with an active body-worn camera so moved is there a second second council member Ellinger I think I heard first now discussion of the motion vice mayor Kaye thank you mayor I move to suspend the rules and allow for public comment on the proposed substitution before we have discussion and a vote all right and we have a second from Councilmember Worley is their discussion of that motion yes Councilmember Sheehan this is the motion to suspend the rules and give and have public comment I'm fine with with the motion but I do believe that the public still hasn't seen the ordinance and I believe they need copies of it before They're getting copies right now. They're making them as we speak. Thank you. I agree. Council Member Sheehan? Oh, you just spoke. Anybody else want to speak to the motion to suspend the rules and have public comment right now before the council votes on the substitution? Council Members, anything else? Suspending the rules will take 10 votes. Correct? Or Keith is shaking his head. This is- This is procedural, so it just takes a majority of the body. So it takes a majority of the body. That's right, it's not a second reading of an ordinance or resolution. Right, there's a difference for reading ordinances or resos. This is procedural, so it will take eight votes to pass. All right. Point of order. Yes, sir. The way that we've brought this, actually, and thank you, Vice Mayor, we talked about two different ways actually the procedural way to do this is what I recommended and that is a motion to postpone to a certain time because we have a motion on the floor that would that doesn't require suspension of the rules sorry folks to confuse this but if you would like to make the motion or I'm happy to make the motion but it really should be a motion to postpone which takes precedent over the motion we have currently existing you can't suspend the rules during a debate. That point well taken. Okay, yes. I think that works exactly the same way practically. Yes, so you're willing to. So I'm willing to amend my motion, which is to say to postpone the discussion and vote by council until after public comment. Okay. And as a seconder, I also second that. Thank you. All right. Very good. All right. Is there any other conversation or comment about the motion? Council Member Reynolds, are you speaking to the motion? To postpone? Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's take the vote. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Is anyone opposed? All right. That motion passes. and so we're getting copies of the substitution distributed right now and it's also for those who want to look at it on the screen it'll be on the, can you put it on the screen Chris? It's too big. Thank you. As soon as everyone has a copy, I'll go ahead and tell you the color coding and what it means. Thank you. Do we need copies any place else in the chamber? Does everyone have one? Okay, on the substitute ordinance that you received, you will see some things that are underlined. So these have been added to the ordinance. You will see a lot of things that are underlined. So these have been added to the ordinance. to the ordinance, you will see at the bottom of the first page some things that are struck out with a line. That means they've been deleted. Yours doesn't have any of that? No. Okay. So you just have a clean copy maybe? We don't have a clean copy up here. That's okay. Okay, so you've probably received a clean copy then of the substitute ordinance. Can we, yeah, can we? Mayor, I move we recess until we're able to get copies for the public comment. Okay. Point of, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but just to be clear, this substitute amendment is not a revision of the underlying motion. This proposed substitute is not a red line copy of the underlying motion. That's correct. It's a complete substitute. It is a complete substitute. So the red lining is about a previous. It's about previous motion. And it's not relevant. So a clean copy is what people need. So. A clean copy is what people need. So the count. They have a clean copy. We can get clean copies. So can we get clean copies please for council members and we'll recess for five minutes. Thank you. Thank you. All right, council members. Let's come back into session, please. And do all council members have the clean current copy? Yes. Okay. So I did want to clarify for the public what's going on. this substitute motion ordinance tonight, if the motion to substitute it passes, it will get first reading. The clerk will read it one time. And the rules of the council are that on the second reading, that's the time when council members vote and that would be on July the 6th. Does everybody understand that? This will be, if it passes tonight, it will just get its first reading. There would not be a vote tonight. Just so you all know what the procedure is. Okay. Now, let's see. We're ready for public comment. Are you ready? All right. We have about 40 people. And so we'll go ahead, and the procedure is the following. Each person will, when your name's called, you'll come to the podium and state your name and your council district. If you're not from Lexington, if you'll please tell us what city or county you're from, and you will have three minutes to speak. So first is Reva Russell English. And the next one will be Andrew Russell English, so you can get prepared, and then Louise Talon. Welcome, if you'll tell us your name and your council's district. My name is Reva Russell English, and I live in James Brown's council district. I have said many things to this body over the last couple of months about no-knock warrants. I will not rehash all of that now. Passing the ban without further amendments, including this ordinance that we have not seen until now, makes sense and it is what the community has been talking about and arguing over and giving support about or not. I am sure from your perspective it looks like you're in something of a pickle. On the one hand, you have the Black Faith Leaders Caucus, which represents over 40,000 Lexingtonians and the dozens of other faith communities and their parishioners who stand with them on this and other issues. That number is considerable and formidable. You have the ragtag group of activists and organizers known as LPD Accountability and the people they have rallied. Over 300 that we know of have contacted you. We have Kentuckians for the Commonwealth who have rallied to this cause. They have 13,000 statewide members. There are so many others who have asked for you to pass this ban, unwatered down any further. But on the other hand, you do have a cynical LEX 18 poll conducted online with no safeguards, no controls to make sure that whomever voted was even a Fayette County resident, and no controls to make sure that nobody used bot software. One person could have voted all those times. That's how good of a poll that was. It did register 626 total votes and two-thirds of them said that they do not want you to pass the ban, and that roughly accounts to about 400 people who may or may not be real. I know that you have also been fielding legitimate phone calls and emails from my neighbors who do not want you to pass this ban. They fear that taking away this rarely used and dangerous tool put them in danger, and you've also heard from constituents who think that by banning no-knock warrants, you'll be doing away with exigent circumstances, which allows police officers to enter private homes when lives are in danger. And you and I both know that this will not do that. There is no way you have fielded tens of thousands of comments telling you to vote no on the original ban. But every time the black faith leaders speak, they speak in the voice of tens of thousands of people, of your neighbors and your constituents, and they are all telling you to pass the ban. that some of you persist in calling this equal and preferencing some forms of communication above others and some voices above others smacks of the three-fifths compromise. And now this 11th hour bacon switch. I'm so sorry to interrupt you. We'll give you 20 seconds when I'm finished. If the audience please will hold your comments, any shouts, we will get through this and it will maintain our decorum. And let's give Reva her 20 seconds back. With this 11th hour bait and switch, those of you who would support it, I beg all of you not to. It is unfair. It is undemocratic. And you disrespect my black neighbors. You disrespect the rest of us. You disrespect yourselves, your office, and the democratic process. Don't do it. Thank you. I'm so sorry. I will have to suspend public comment if we have clapping and loud noise. This is a council rule. Please, will you please respect that? Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Next, we have Andrew Russell English. Welcome. Thanks. My name is Andrew Russell English, like you said, Mayor, and I also live in James Brown's district. I also support a ban on no-knock warrants, but you all know that. So I'm going to talk about a couple of other things. Professional respect and responsibility. The way some members of this council have ignored the voices of those who have come forward to make Lexington a safer and more just place, and most specifically, like my partner said, our black community leaders, including your own colleague, Councilmember James Brown, is cowardly and embarrassing. there have already been two attempts through amendment one successful and one unsuccessful to water this down when the community members who elect you ask you to vote on an issue and council members respond by dancing around the issue hemming and hawing chipping away at the central premise until there's nothing left you're no longer participating in the democracy which elected you. You bypassed voters and community members of all stripes in an active theater through which we're meant to believe that you did something. In fact, you have wasted countless hours of my time and resources, everybody else here, the emotional work of your neighbors, in order to achieve nothing. I expect insincere and spineless behavior from elected representatives in high levels of politics, but I'm here to hold you to a higher standard. We in this room and thousands of others, outside and tuned in, we're here to witness your yes or no vote on the proposed no-knock ban. With no amendments, by my count, we're overwhelmingly in favor of you passing that ban. I want you to support this ban on no-knock warrants, but whatever you decide, at least say it in front of God and everybody. Thank you. Thank you. And next is Louise Tallon, and then Naomi Kluet will be next, and Nathan Moore. So you can queue up if you want. Welcome. My name is Louise Tallon. I'm in Jennifer Reynolds Council District. Thank you for allowing me to speak. I will not repeat what the people before me have said. I will simply speak to the issue that countrywide no-knock warrants are largely used against people with black skin by officers with white skin. This is a vestige of systemic racism and 400 years of oppression. It is wrong. It should not exist. And reading through the amendment, which was just introduced this evening, and we have not had time to actually read it carefully, it is clear that all of these exigent circumstances are open to interpretation, and anything can be done by interpretation. Now, if I were a criminal defense attorney, I would love this amendment because I could easily argue to dismiss a case on any one of these exigent circumstances. This amendment is a nightmare. This ban should be enacted. The people of Lexington are calling for it. It's the right thing to do. Thank you. Thank you very much. Next is Naomi Cluett and then Nathal Moore and Emma Anderson. If you'll go ahead and queue up, please. Welcome. Hi, I'm Naomi Cluett. I live in Susan Lamb's district. I want to thank all the council members for the work that you're doing. I'm sure you're under a lot of pressure right now. So it's been over a year since the group of black faith leaders that was referenced before made their first statement. and I was looking at the Herald-Leader to see what was reported on after their first statement. And Reverend Owens said, Over the years, we have individually and collectively spoken and taken action towards incremental progress. However, an ongoing blatant disregard for the sanctity of black lives has compelled this united and urgent response. And the article goes on to mention the specific murders last year that brought people into the streets. But then quotes Reverend People saying those incidents were just part of, quote, years, decades, and centuries of injustice, of racial profiling, of police brutality, lynchings, voter suppression, economic, and health disparities. And then the article reports that Mayor Gorton thanked the leaders for providing the statement and said, we're all in this together. And we are all in this together, but you all are being called on to make a decision. and I feel that you have a moment to show the members of our community who bear the weight of that history and who may feel that they're not safe in their own homes that you hear them and you care about them. And I think you can do that by passing the ban on no-knock warrants without any amendments or substitutions. Thank you. Thank you very much. pastor Moore and then Emma Anderson and James Woodhead welcome thank you to mayor as well as to our esteemed council members thank you for allowing us the opportunity to present here on tonight being founded in 1790 I have the distinct privilege of pastoring one of the oldest black baptist churches in the city of Lexington the state of Kentucky and even this nation the first African Baptist Church. Our church has a well documented and a rich history. Some of that history is recorded through the lenses of Lexington's white community and religious establishment. I would like to read a brief statement by Dr. William Pratt from a section in J.H. Spencer's history of Kentucky Baptists. In reference to London Farrell, our church's second pastor, Pratt stated, he had the manner of authority and command and was the most thorough disciplinarian I ever saw. He was respected by the whole white population of Lexington and his influence was more potent to keep order among blacks than the police force in the city. Pratt's statement reveals a fundamental fact about policing in Lexington. Woven into the tapestry of policing in Lexington in the city of Lexington is the flawed concept of securing the safety of the city by maintaining by policing rather and enforcing order in the black community. Maintaining the order, not the safety of the black community, is wrapped up in the DNA of policing in Lexington. Thus the call of the black community for law enforcement reform. Until tangible steps are taken towards reforming policing practices, policies, and procedures, there will continue to be distrust and tension between the black community and law enforcement. The issue of banning no not warrants is larger than the discontinued use of a policing tactic that unjustly and disproportionately affects the black community. As my esteemed colleague and co-chair of the Mayor's Commission of Racial Justice and Equality stated in a recent article as it pertains to the voting proceedings tonight, he stated, and I quote, Tonight represents how serious we are about meaningful change in our community. It's a symbol of how far we've come and how far we still have to go, unquote. Your proceedings tonight will let the black community know where each one of you stands on the issue of racial justice and equality, as well as here in the city of Lexington. Excuse me. Your vote will also reveal your position on policing as it relates to the black community. Is policing about securing the safety of the city by maintaining order in the black community? Or is policing about securing the safety of the city by ensuring the safety of the entire city as well as, and particularly, the black community? We encourage you to vote yes on the ordinance initially put before you tonight without any amendments to it at all. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Moore. Next is Emma Anderson, then James Woodhead, and then Clifton Jackson. And you'll remember to state your name, your council district, and you'll have three minutes. Welcome. My name is Emma and I am in Council District 5. I am so upset right now. I think this is super messed up. I'm not good at speaking on the fly, but all I can think about is my beautiful friend Arielle and my beautiful friend Jamila and my beautiful friend April and Jasmine and Asia, beautiful black women who, who could, who at any minute, I'm just like thinking about them sitting on their couch at night after a long day of work and, um, someone busting in that they don't know and, um, them not knowing what was going on and them not complying because they thought they were being robbed or they thought they were in danger and being knocked to the ground with a shield and handcuffed. I'm thinking about their family members in bed, one of them calling 911 because they thought they were being robbed. And the reason I'm using such specific language is because this is what happened in the case of the Rice family in 2015. He was sitting on his couch at night. He was unwinding after a long day's work, and officers busted into his home. He thought he was being robbed, so he didn't respond to their commands, and they knocked him to the ground and handcuffed him. His wife and child were upstairs in bed. His wife called the police because she thought they were being robbed, and dispatch reports that at one point they are crying and they're no longer speaking. Can you imagine that happening to you? Can you, like, that could be my friends, you know? Like, this is just, like, I can't even articulate how upset I am that you've brought this amendment forward. It completely takes the teeth out of the ban. It's like, this is like a publicity stunt. It doesn't do anything, and I'm just like. Thank you. Next is James Woodhead, then Clifton Jackson, and then DeBron Thomas. My name is James Woodhead. I'm in the 3rd District. Thank you for allowing me to comment again, this time finally in person, to voice my support for a complete and permanent ban on no-knock warrants. I applaud the council members who previously voted in favor of the ordinance to ban no-knocks, and I urge you to stay the course. For the council members who oppose the ordinance, I strongly encourage you to reconsider your vote. While the City Council is correctly working to make the Commission for Racial Justice and Equality a permanent commission, it will only be effective if the mayor and city council listen to its recommendations. This includes the commission's conclusion that it will be prudent for the mayor to take action that bans no-knock warrants as a show of support for the Black Lives Matter movement and to eliminate the possibility of another crisis, similar to Breonna Taylor in the future involving the police and the black community. Lexington needs Breonna's law since state legislation, Senate Bill 4, stopped short of banning no-knocks, and the current moratorium is by definition not permanent. As the Lexington Police Department, the FOP, and the Republican Party of Fayette County have campaigned in opposition to the ban and engaged in red scare tactics, it will require courage to take a stand, but the time is always right to do what is right. If anything, it's clearly been shown why the Commission for Racial Justice also recommended the city hire a consultant to review the LPD, Fraternal Order of Police Relationship, and present recommendations for changes. They want to lead you to believe that a ban on no-knocks would infringe upon the ability for the Lexington Police to utilize tools and resources which are reportedly necessary to protect and safeguard the health, safety, and welfare of all Fayette County citizens, including the police officers. However, the facts do not support this claim. As long as Kentucky is a castle doctrine or stand your ground state and the sound of a battering ram is recognized as a sufficient announcement by police raiding a home, both civilians, especially those who are marginalized, and law enforcement officers will continue to be placed in harm's way by no-knock warrants. Though some may imagine these warrants being used primarily when lives are in danger, in In reality, they are mostly used to unsuccessfully secure evidence in drug searches. Thanks to open records requests, we know that Lexington's most recent no-knock raids have been utilized for drugs. We also know the Lexington Police Department botched a no-knock raid, victimized a family, and cost taxpayers, not LPD or the FOP, thousands of dollars in litigation. Only a small percentage of no-knock warrants are issued for occasions where lives are actually in danger and these situations are exigent circumstances meaning they do not require any warrant i strongly encourage the city council to take a stand for racial justice and police accountability to ensure the safety of all of lexington's residents vote in favor of the ordinance to completely ban no knock warrants and require the police absent exigent circumstances to wait at the very least a minimum of 15 seconds thank you very much next is clifton jackson and then DeBron Thomas and then Pastor Owens, if you'll go ahead and queue up, please. Clifton Jackson. Good evening. My name is DeBron Thomas. I'm in District 3. I'm going to say something in public that I haven't said to people in public. The last time I was here to speak to city council, we were talking about the removal of the Confederate Route Monuments at what is now Tandy Park. That process nearly killed me. That process has damaged my mental health. I suffer from PTSD. And sometimes it's hard to be a person. As a black person in this country, we already carry generational trauma from being enslaved. Black people are not the only people that have generational trauma. It's something that happens all over the place. But the fact that people have been asking for this, If you vote no, you're sending us through the same cycle over and over again. In 1994, Tony Sullivan was killed by Phil Vogel. I was not here then, but I've read plenty of articles talking about, like it made national news. Lexington is a one bad day away from having something like that happen again. Did we not learn anything from Breonna Taylor? Did we not learn from people sitting in their homes watching George Floyd have a knee on his neck for nine minutes? Sure, he said I can't breathe. So did Eric Garner in 2015. We shouldn't have any more people potentially be in danger. We shouldn't have people potentially lose their life because of semantics. I appreciate your opportunity to bring an amendment to this. I really do, but this is not it. We must pass this ordinance as is without amendments. If you really want change, you can say Black Lives Matter. You can go down to Tandy Park and have a good time and say that you love us. But if you're not willing to do the work, it doesn't mean anything. Nobody else should feel unsafe in this community. And nobody else should die for us to have to step up here and have the same conversation over and over again. We have an opportunity to do something right. We have an opportunity to do something that is going to make people safe. Voting no on this is not it. This amendment is not it. So I am asking you all today, please, listen to your constituents. Listen to your neighbors. You haven't seen me because honestly, like, it's been very difficult. Like I said, trauma is real. Nobody else should have to carry it on account of semantics. Please, I am asking you right now, vote yes to ban no knock warrants. We don't need another Tony Sullivan, we don't need another Breonna Taylor, we don't need another anyone else or another name that we don't know or never will. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Next, is Clifton Jackson here? Okay. Pastor Owens, then Patty Cooper, then Lee Schindler. If you can go ahead, or maybe Schindley, go ahead and queue up please. Welcome. Thank you, Mayor. My name is Joseph L. Owens. I'm in council district number six. David Colbert is my council person. I wanted to say thank you for this opportunity to address the council. My heart is deeply disturbed with the shenanigans that I have witnessed tonight. The black faith community, which I'm only one voice of that group, have for over a year consistently called on elected officials to make fundamental changes that will bring about racial justice and equity in this community. A great part of that has to do with and includes police reform. We are not anti-police. We know we need police in our community. Nobody wants to be more safe than we do in our community. That's why we have continued to ask for this city ordinance that will give a permanent ban to no-knock warrants without exception that should include at least a 15 or greater second minimum waiting period before entry, even for future execution of knock and announce warrants. But tonight, we have been placed in our hands a substitute that you have put together and had time to think about and have the audacity to give us a few moments to look at something that will change our lives forever. It is disturbing. 48,000 plus black people in this community and a larger community have asked you over and over again, not for a substitute, but a permanent ban. And tonight you have an opportunity. You who are in power have an opportunity to acknowledge the voices of those who put you in power. We're waiting, we're watching, and we will remember how you respond. Thank you, Pastor Owens. Next is Patty Cooper, and then I believe it's Lee Shindley. I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing. And then Roberta Burns, if you all will queue up, please. Welcome. Thank you. My name is Patty Cooper, and I live in the 11th District. I'm here tonight to quickly say three things. First, I personally find this proposed amendment insulting. It overturns everything that is strong and beautiful about the no-knock ban that we expected to vote on tonight. So I urge you not to accept anything about this. It's very upsetting just to read it. The second thing I want to say is that I am concerned about public safety. And I ask myself and my friends, everyone I know, what makes you feel safer in Lexington? Having a no-knock warrant available or passing a ban on no-knocks? I feel much safer with the latter. There are too many opportunities for mistakes. We must ban no-knock warrants. The third thing I want to say is that this is a matter of justice. For the racial history of the city, of the state, of this country demands that we finally do what we are asked to do by this community. by the faith leaders, by community leaders. Over and over again, I was here when Tony Sullivan was shot and killed. And we've waited and waited. This is the time to stand up and show that you really, really believe that it's time to turn the tide to address racism in all its ugliness in a straightforward and honest manner. There is no shame in learning how to do things differently. And I believe the history we've witnessed makes it clear. As a white person, everything has to be different now. Please ignore this proposed amendment and please vote yes for the ordinance as presented. Thank you. Thank you very much. Next is Lee Shindley. I apologize. I didn't get the last name correct. Okay. Council members, we'll need a motion. On Zoom, they did away with the sharing of time, so I'll ask council members what you want to do. Okay. Okay, we have a motion by Councilmember Reynolds and a second by Councilmember McCurn to allow the three minutes of Lee Is it Schmidly? And are you signed up? I'm so sorry Okay Okay, so council members a motion in a second is there any discussion all those in favor please say aye anyone opposed all right you'll have three minutes if you'll state your name and council district Tana Fogle first district proudly James Brown I know you all are tuned into and I had eye surgery so I just want to just turn look all across the board and I know you guys are used to storytelling so just imagine that your child has befriended a black child, a little girl, a little boy, and they're spending the night with that child and that family. And all of a sudden, there's an officer at the door and he comes busting through the door. But your grandchild and your child is laying in the bed and something is going on. They are now traumatized because people entered into the home. and there they were in the bed not knowing what to do. They're not used to it, but they're with some black families and they're spending the night. And all of a sudden their life has changed for the rest of their life. See, we've been talking about what happens to families, but what happens to children that get to witness their parents being thrown to the ground and then they might be in the wrong house? I'm begging you please please consider what we have gone through not just black families but white families too we are traumatized it's time to stop this shame on you for trying to water down this that looks like a senate bill 4 to come to Lexington all due respect I'm asking the council please vote the ordinance as it stands without any amendments. Give us a chance to see our grand babies and our great grand babies live. Thank you. Thank you very much. Next is Roberta Burns and then Roy Harrison and then Mark Swanson. If you can queue up please, I appreciate it very much. Welcome. My name is Roberta Burns. I live in the 11th District. I moved here to Lexington the year that Tony Sullivan was shot, and it is one of my earliest memories of living in this city. I support a complete ban with no exceptions on no-knock warrants. These warrants, let's face it, they disproportionately target black and brown neighbors, our brothers and sisters in this city. They are completely at odds with state law, our castle doctrine. I mean, that's why Breonna Taylor died. Mistakes happen. Mistakes have happened, and they will happen again if we allow no knocks to continue to be legal. Please pass a complete ban. Reinstate at least a 15-second waiting period before entering, after knocking. this battle will not be won if we leave it to our black and brown brothers and sisters all of us need to take the lead and stand up for what is right please pass a complete ban thank you thank you roy harrison then mark swanson then jessica bowman if y'all can cue up please welcome thank you Roy Harrison third district I hope this council really understands the gravity of this moment today's vote on no-knock warrants hold as much consequence in Lexington as any since the fairness ordinance 20 years ago the question today reflects on the very core of what type of we're trying to become the merits alone the no-knock ban should pass for as much as this argued that no knocks are just a tool we all know it's a dangerous useless tool despite the hyperbole that this practice is used to protect lives and stop violent crime every single member of this council knows the opposite is true it's using drug cases drug cases nonviolent our police department has a toolbox with many other better resources to protect our community from drugs and crime and what's the harm this tool is more than just useless it's rusty it's dangerous against the cold calculus between risk and reward no knocks are not worth it the practice threatens the lives and well-being as you've heard this evening of police bystanders and suspects in the state with over 54% percent individual gun ownership the risk of a shootout and unintended tragedy is too high it's been said in this room that Breonna Taylor would still be alive today if she lived in Lexington you know in your gut test not right we've been lucky that's it we were lucky after Lexington got away with just paying a hundred thousand dollars after LPD executed the no-knock on the wrong house then a year ago Rihanna Taylor was murdered and Louisville removed that tool from their toolbox let's grow like them let's learn from that tragedy but the FOP wants us to cling to an unsafe and not particularly useful practice in the face of community crying for change this position is not reasonable it's not right. This amendment is not reasonable. It's not right. The mayor's own racial justice and equality Commission called out this practice specifically as one of the key markers of Lexington's willingness to create a safe and livable city. Ministers, not criminals, are leading this charge. It's these men and women who have the reasonable position. Listen to them. Today is our moment to build a city that believes in evidence-based and effective policing and in creating a city that is welcoming to all who would contribute to it vote to ban this unnecessary and dangerous practice and protect the next innocent young black woman asleep in her bed thank you thank you very much next is mark Swanson and then Jessica Bowman and then Jamila Green if you all will cue up please welcome good evening I'm Mark Swanson still from the third district hi Hannah it's a treat to be in the council chambers and see you all in person like all of you I've attended many meetings in which no knock warrants were discussed as well as speaking with chief weathers about the issue and chief weathers has suggested as we've heard this evening that no knock warrants are tool he wants to keep available for emergency use while I understand his desire to have as many tools as possible there is a cost to using the tool of no knock warrants and that cost is community trust and confidence the black community in Lexington particularly as represented by black ministers has made it abundantly clear that they do not trust the use of no knock warrants refusing to follow the recommendations of the mayor's Commission on this issue seems likely almost inevitably to further erode the trust of many Lexingtonians in the police department. As it is, Lieutenant Paul Boyles expressed his frustration in a Herald-Leader article a month ago saying the unwillingness of witnesses to come forward is a significant barrier to solving crimes. According to the Herald-Leader, a month ago there were 30 open murder cases, at least some of those if not many of those because witnesses refused to come forward. How many more cases will go unsolved if the urban County Council fails to act on this issue I'm also concerned by the way that this issue has been personalized rather than addressed as policy even if we completely trust the judgment of Chief Weathers and Mayor Gordon and frankly I'm a big fan of both of them can we safely trust the judgment of every future chief and mayor policy should be set regardless of individual personalities. The last time I attended a council meeting, like Mr. Thomas, as a public citizen was when council voted to remove the Confederate statues from downtown. That was an important but only symbolic move by council to address the racial justice issues this country has struggled with for over 400 years. The No-Not bill is the first major change in police policy recommended by the the Mayor's Commission that this Council will vote on. Consider carefully the message that that vote sends about our community's willingness to tackle the tough issues about race, equity, and public safety being debated around the nation. This Council is called this evening to make an important and substantive move to improve police and community relations in Lexington. I urge my former colleagues and the new members of the council along with mayor Gordon to seize that opportunity thank you thank you very much next is Jessica Bowman then Jamila green and then I apologize M Caroline Busoni I'm sorry if I got that wrong welcome Jessica Bowman 9th district and I don't even really I read this but the fact that it's even still a thing makes it null and void for what we're talking about the FOP which represents LPD has set forth the notion that when it comes to banning no knocks you're being asked to choose between police and the community but the FOP is the only one asking you to make that choice they are asking you to choose police over the community in the case of no knocks we're asking you to choose the community and the police as no knocks are dangerous for both. I have family members who are officers with the Lexington Police Department. Without question, I want them to get home safe to their families, to their spouses, and to their children, who I love as dearly as my own. The fact that the FOP would imply my stance against no knocks means I care nothing for their safety is infuriating. No knocks are dangerous for police too, period. And let's not forget that the person on the other side of that door is innocent. No No matter how much evidence has been collected, in this country, they're innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Police are not by law judge or jury and certainly not executioner. The FOP suggests that anyone who supports a ban supports criminal behavior. Now, do you really believe that dozens of black faith leaders are speaking up because they support crime? Do you really think that community members are against No Knocks because they support crime? They call us a small group of radical anti-police activists. I've been called a lot of things in my life, but radical is not one of them. Is it radical to care about community? Is it radical to want unbiased policing? Is it radical to expect accountability and transparency from people who carry weapons and hold power over our city? Is it radical to want more money budgeted to programs that actually change people's lives instead of being poured like an endless faucet into unjust systems of punishment? If that's radical, then so be it. Today's vote isn't just about no knocks, this vote will send a clear message. You're either committed to racial justice and equality or you're not. If you're unwilling to stand on the side of reform on what should be a no-brainer, then how can we the community expect you will handle the much more challenging conversations and decisions? The union has made it clear they are not willing to budge on any reforms, none. Quoting Adam Serwer, the existence of powerful organizations that advocate for the armed agents of the state at the expense of the public they serve is not simply an obstacle to reform, it is dangerous. Vote yes to the ban and do not water it down. The community has compromised enough. Today it is up to council to do what the FOP will not. Protect and serve all the citizens of Lexington. Thank you. Next, excuse me, is Jamila Green and then Caroline and then Adriel Stapleton. Welcome. Jamila Green, district 11. I remember watching the video of Eric Garner being murdered by police. It was the first time I had ever watched police kill someone. I was 12 years old and I was traumatized. It was a trauma that I will never forget, a trauma that I'm reminded about every time I hear of a black person being killed by police. That day I was scared of the police. Ever since with every murder, that fear has only gotten worse and become more real. When will it be me? I shouldn't have to be scared of the one group that's supposed to protect me, but I am. The murder of Breonna Taylor through a botched no-knock raid was triggering for me and just added to that trauma. In September, seeing a piece of drywall get more justice than a black woman only added to that trauma. Black individuals have gone through too much to have to deal with even more. Not only does a no-knock raid put residents in the house in danger, but it puts the officers and the neighbors in danger as well. I'm going to school to become a nurse, so trust me, I don't want to see anyone killed or seriously injured. And I will do everything I can to prevent that from happening, starting with urging each of you to vote in support of this ban. On June 4th, 2020, LPD released a statement with language stating, Lexington Police Department has received questions regarding its use of no-knock search warrants, which are executed on a very limited basis and only in extreme exigent circumstances. From this statement alone, we can see that the department lacks transparency and honesty. In the case of exigent circumstances, officers would not need a no knock warrant to be able to do something. The department claims that they only use the warrants for exigent circumstances. Therefore, there's no reason that they need no knock warrants. We have seen the way the department can botch these raids. An innocent family was traumatized because LPD officers executed a no knock raid on the wrong home. Who's to say it won't happen again or turn out worse? How would you all feel if you could have avoided having a Breonna Taylor in Lexington and chose not to? The FOP is making an attempt to manipulate each of you to vote in their favor by speaking from their euphoric point of view, where police never do any wrong and all people fully support them. This is inaccurate and fails to represent the mindsets of those who are most affected by the carelessness of police. The FOP censors any and all voices that disagree or question their standpoint. Sadly, their Facebook page resembles the pettiness of a middle school argument. Please, do not listen to them. The department refuses to allow changes for anything and that is exactly how we will make no progress as a community. We have to make a change. I strongly believe in community and building relationships within the community. I'm not opposed to creating relationships between community and police, but first we have to build trust. The fight for justice and equality is a fight that my grandparents fought. It's a fight that I'm now fighting and it's a fight that I refuse to let my children fight. Change must happen now. Let's start today. This community is watching you. whole world is watching you thank you for your time thank you next is Caroline and then Adriel Stapleton and then Leanne Woodhead hi Carolyn Buscini I'm in Liz Sheehan's district a lot of people have already spoken about the no knock ban I want to focus so much kind of on the 15 second limit on a knock warrant being served. I am a single mother. I have a 13 year old and I have a five year old. A few weeks ago we left, me and my five year old left to go pick up dinner. My 13 year old stayed home to play video games which are often, I don't know, I don't watch them, I don't play them, but sounds kind of like a cow dying sometimes. He has his headphones in and all I could think when I came home with that pizza and kicked my kick plate and he didn't hear me and didn't open my door. I had to set down the pizza, I had my keys, I got myself in, but it was much longer than 15 seconds. And all I could think was what would happen if it were the cop at the wrong door in that complex that all looks the same. I think it speaks very, very... Sorry, I'm speaking a little bit off the cuff here. I think it just speaks to the lack of safety, not only for our citizens, but also for our officers. where officers are going into a house unannounced, even announced, knocking, waiting a reasonable amount of time. Who's to say how reasonable that amount of time is and how long it would take before, well, not my kid, but another kid who might have a little bit darker skin would have met. It's really weird having all y'all look at me like this. would have met with danger, death, injury. Gosh. Yeah, so I just really, that's really kind of my point right there, is it's going to affect all of us, and there's no way to really keep anybody safe if we keep these no-knock warrants legal or even this watered-down version that you gave us, which nobody has any time to even look over. so that's really it thank you uh next and i apologize is it adriel stapleton and then after you will be jesse buckwer welcome um thank you i'm adriel stapleton i live in the third district can you hear me okay speak a little louder it's a little louder um i'd like to thank my council member hannah lagree for her support of the ban on no knock warrants and i also want to thank the blacks lexintonians who have led this call for increased community safety i'm here to support and join my neighbors and asking for a complete ban on no knock warrants we all want to feel safe in our homes and in our city i feel that personally lack of oversight of the police erodes my confidence in them as an option to call if I don't feel safe and we know that no-not-quarance endanger the lives of everyone involved I feel confident that the city of Lexington can find a more skillful way forward and I'm asking the council to please support that process of learning and growth I did want to speak briefly to the amendment I'm sure I don't I'm not an expert but I kind of wonder where is the accountability you know there's there's a section section C for prohibiting no knock warrant use for you know just for evidence but where is is there any kind of structure for accountability is it gonna just be the police that have to be on the honor system that they haven't done that and I also wonder you know why are we centering the safety of the person's executing the warrants when they have made a choice to be there and there's not a huge burden of proof right they're alleged criminals so I have questions about why we're centering their safety versus the safety of completely innocent people who might be in the building I I hope that the council will show leadership and build up my trust in the city and my trust in the police and that there will be change and real consequences thank you thank you Leanne Woodhead and then Beth Howard and then Nikita and Mel maybe I'm sorry if y'all will queue up please welcome my name is Leanne Woodhead and I am in the third district I just want to say thank you to the council members who voted to ban no knock warrants here in Lexington despite the public shaming of the fraternal order of police lodge number four those of you in favor of no knock warrants I would just like to say shame on you as a community we will not stand by while you continue to water down what a complete and permanent ban on no knock no knock warrants is and what they look like those no knock warrants primarily affect black and brown people who by the way do not look like the majority of council members sitting in front of us so as a community we will not and do not accept amendments or substitutions we want a complete and permanent ban on no-knock warrants here in Lexington all power to the people thank you next is Beth Howard then Nikita. Hi Nikita had to leave early so she's not here but my name is Beth Howard I am in council district 7 my council member is Preston Worley who introduced this shameful amendment I am asking my council member and the rest of the council to vote to pass a strong no-knock warrant ordinance that is not watered down or amended. I thank those council members who are voting yes and who have shown leadership in passing this ordinance. We all know why we are here tonight. This is not unclear or confusing. There are no gray areas. There is no compromise. You are choosing a side. People are watching today and in the future your children and your grandchildren and future generations will look back at this time in history to see if their family and their city's elected leaders voted to continue making it easy for police to murder black people or if they cast a vote on the side of protecting black life. Lexington says it's committed to racial justice. I hope the council passes a clean ordinance to ban no knock warrants and proves it. Thank you. Next is Russell Allen and then Garrett Gabriel and then Will McComb. If you all can queue up please. Welcome. I'm just gonna add my name into the hat on the amendment. The amendment is terrible. I want to thank Brother James Brown for advocating for as well as brother Steve Kay for advocating and making sure that we had a chance to hear the bill see it and speak on it. Excuse me Russell can you give us your council district? Yes, district 8. Thank you. My bad. A lot of people that have been up here tonight have already kind of touched on some of the things that I want to touch on. I want to touch on the brother David Rice and just kind of talk about how close our community has been to some of these tragedies, especially since these statues were removed. Also, I'm a co-founder of Take By Chiefside. I don't talk about it very much, but since those statues were removed, a lot of conversations that I have with people in the city are proud ones. People are proud to live here, proud to have been a part of that moment. They think that that moment really speaks to what the city is. But unfortunately for me, since that moment I felt as though you know it was a hollow moment and I'm here today you know kind of realizing that it was a hollow moment. It's a good moment for everybody to kind of come together, a symbolic gesture, a good thing for everybody to see, a good thing that everybody wanted to jump on, but now we see something that is equally as easy to choose with this ban on no-knock warrant, something that protects actual life. And we see the antics, the back and forth, kind of the telegraph moves that we're doing, the politics, for lack of a better term, in order to water this down and appease, you know, frankly, a bully in the FOP. I know there's, my grandfather was just in here, Norman Allen, been a police officer his whole life. You know, taught me to like police. I never really had any problems with police until I had my own run-ins with folks. I say all that to say that this city would be lying to itself if it said it was a good city, if we can't do this simple thing. Somebody else came up here and said there's so many other nuances, so many other weeds to get into with the issue of police violence, And if we can't simply ban something that has been used so sparingly, and in those sparing uses, we find one egregious mistake, one mistake that could have, you know, changed the fabric of our community. Louisville's forever changed. They will never be the same community. There are people who've done the same kind of work that I've done that are dead. They're either dead from stress or they're dead from other means. And we were this close to that. And to vote on this ordinance and to not vote on a no-knock ban would be, you know, it would just be kind of a spit in the face. I feel like I'm here because folks don't want to listen to who has been speaking on this issue so clearly and concisely. And I get mad thinking about I have to spend the time away from my family to try to convince you guys. Excuse me, Russell. I'm so sorry. Your time is up. Thank you so much. Thank you. All right, next is Garrett Gabriel, then Will McComb, then Tegan Miller, if you can all queue up, please. Welcome. I have a procedural request, if you don't mind. Can we do the time on the screen, please? I don't know if, are you able to do the time on the screen, Chris? Okay. He took off the amendment, but he can do the time. If you don't mind. Garrett Gabriel, nicknamed Gigi, District 1. Thank you for having me in person. I live right along the intersection of Chestnut and 6th. On Thursday, May 27th, there was a shooting. An elderly woman, Miss Jackie Brown, was shot in the leg, and her partner was shot as well, both non-fatally. Immediately, roughly 20 cops were on the scene, onlookers lined the streets. A picture was taken of my LPD accountability sign. in contrast to all the cops and eventually everything died down again. Miss Jackie got home a few days later. She has a ramp leading up to her front door and it's heavily broken, but she kept herself in a wheelchair for a while regardless. I haven't heard much about the incident since. Miss Jackie hasn't either. One week later, I was coming home and I work nights for Trans Affirming Employer provided health insurance. I got home around six in the morning and when I opened the door to my house, a heavily masked man was already there with a gun. I was held in my house for a few hours at the threat of gunpoint until I finally convinced the trespasser to leave I called the non-emergency dispatcher who directed me to the hospital and officer waited me there my friend Alicia a woman who I've stood behind protesting and marching a proud mother dropped everything left work and met me at the hospital I am indebted to that woman she is one of several women I've met through LPD accountability who inspire me Ampersand, a nonprofit whom I have advocated and will continue to advocate, didn't arrive until several hours had passed. Had Alicia not been there, I would have been alone. When people advocate for increased policing, I think they imagine they're advocating for victims. As my neighbor's story and as mine might underscore, victims are not who police serve. serve victims and their budget proportions can seem non-existent in contrast to mayor Gorton's budget proposal of six new police officer positions and the release of four frozen police officer positions ten new officers all of those officers will need to be trained to anyone who doesn't know Brett Hankison the only officer fired in the Brianna Taylor case was trained by the Lexington Police Department first the Louisville Metro Police Department faced scrutiny for its poor training techniques for no-knock warrants but it was an ex-Lexington officer who most royally botched that internationally publicized raid. The funny thing is some non-profits might have better served my trespasser as well. He didn't take anything material. As he left, he asked for food, even canned food, almost taking a spaghetti squash, asking what it was, settling on grabbing some cranberry juice from my fridge. It's my current position that he didn't expect to run into me, and although I can't know that for sure maybe he was just hungry or thirsty the language of defund the police or even oh I'm running out of time please ban no-knock warrants thank you very much next is Wilma comb then Teagan Miller then pastor Taylor welcome hi my My name's Will McComb. I live in District 1. I grew up here in Lexington. I've only recently returned to the city, but I don't ever remember feeling any sense of fear that police officers would break into my home at night, even mistakenly. And I think it's horrifying that people have to live with that fear, and because of the color of their skin primarily, and being in a lower economic strata in many cases too. But the color of your skin shouldn't determine whether you feel safe in your own home. Reading this amendment, I'm sure there's all sorts of reasons why officers feel they need to have this tool. maybe some of them are reasonable, maybe not, but that simply is too difficult to pass an ordinance that makes people feel safe in their own homes when the entire function of a police department ought to be preserving the safety and the sense of safety and trust in a community is to me alarming, especially in reading the language of this amendment, which is so preposterously narrow to be symbolic. So to me, the symbol is they're not interested in the trust of the community, the sense of safety in the community. And I find that alarming. So I would encourage all of you to please vote yes to a total ban of no-knock warrants, no watering down, no alternative language. and no amendments, simply vote yes to ban no-knock warrants. Thank you. Thank you very much. Next is Tegan Miller, Pastor Siebert Taylor, Emily Mosley. If you all can please queue up if you're here. welcome thank you very much thank you for allowing me to counsel to every words I did not really want to say anything but can you give us your name and district yes my best to see what have teller Brown counselor there so as I said before I wasn't I plan to say anything but there comes a time in life that we need to stand up for what's right there comes a time when we need to stand up and let it be known that it is in our community and because it is in our community I want to work for the betterment of our community to let folks know that we need the police as well as anyone else but not only do we need the police in our community to watch various things that are going on but we need them in the community to protect us we do not need to be policed I will give one incident I won't call no name in a way I won't be blamed for anything as I normally am. There was a gentleman across the street from me, down the street, shall I say, a few houses down. There had been some conversation going on across the street between him and his fiance. The officers come up and whenever someone comes up, the officers come up on the street with the lights flashing and so forth and so on. Everybody always comes out just to see what's going on. Just so happened I was sitting on the porch and everyone else come out. And one officer had walked over to the young man whom he had already had in handcuffed. And the young man had tattoos under his eyes. And I won't say the derogative word that was said unto him, but I will say this. He asked him, why did he have those tattoos underneath his eyes? Frankly, I don't think it was any of the officer's business why that young man had those tattoos under his eyes. But my biggest thing is, is when you are profiled, someone asked, Pastor, are we profiled? Yes, we are. But my mother has always taught me when you are pulled over, son, whatever you do, put your hands up on the steering wheel. And if an officer should ask you for your license, you tell him that it's in the right or left pocket. Ask him, can you get it out? Take your time and get in and out. But I said that to say this again. We need to vote and we need to vote right. And I put it like this. It's a shame when folks know when they're wrong, but yet they go on and do it anyhow. Now, you know that we're being profiled. You know that we've been mistreated in a certain way. But yet you're willing to stand. And, man, this that you're talking about, a substitute. There's no substitute for what's happening. There's no substitute for nothing. What needs to be done is we need to handle this the right way. That way we won't have to come back in. You want peace in the neighborhood? You can have peace in the neighborhood. You want justice in our neighborhood? You can have justice in our neighborhood. But first, what we've got to do is we've got to learn how to treat one another. Love me as I love you. Treat me the way that you want to be treated. Three minutes up. So I say this again. Vote. No knock. We need to get rid of it. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Taylor. Tegan Miller and Emily Mosley and Sean Saylor, if you can cue up. are you Emily come you may come on and speak I don't think Teagan may have left I don't know welcome hello my name is Emily Mosley and I am a resident of district 1 and a social worker I stand in front of you today I ask you to please pass this no-knock warrant. There was a lot that I was going to say about it, but I feel like a lot of people had said it. And what I really want to say is that I feel like Lexington and this amendment, this is a white supremacist problem. Like, this amendment is upholding white supremacy. And I just don't know how you can stand here and listen to all of these people telling all of these stories and then even consider this amendment. This amendment does not change a lot other than there's so many loopholes in here. Sorry, I'm talking off the cuff, but there are a lot of loopholes in this amendment that does not guarantee safety for our neighbors and your constituents, for the people that are here, for the black community, for any social justice organization has come out very clearly against no knock bans including the national association of social workers which i am a part of but the naacp the aclu all of these organizations are saying that this is unconstitutional and it disproportionately targets african-american black members and Latinx members of our communities. And when we start to listen to constituents that are saying to you that you need to make an amendment, that values certain people over the larger community and that is unfortunate and should not happen. And so I'm asking you today to please don't pass this amendment and do pass the no-knock ban without any exceptions. You know, we could wait, and we could wait for the state to do it, or we could wait for a national ban, but you have this opportunity in front of you right now to do it and make Lexington safer for everybody. And this is the reason, like, we need... The council must play a role in protecting Lexington's most vulnerable citizens. and they have come to you over and over again and you're not listening and I implore you to listen today and ban this once and for all so that we don't have a Breonna Taylor situation because you would not want the world looking at Lexington in that way and we need to work on anti-racist public safety services that are more equitable for everyone in our community thank you thank Thank you very much. Next is, let's see, is Teagan here yet? Teagan Miller. Okay. Sean Saylor, Dana Rogers, and Robin Kunkel, if you can please queue up. Welcome. Hello, thank you. Sean Saylor, District 1. I wanted to thank my representative for making sure that we were able to see this amendment. I'll be super brief. everything that I would want to say has been said better and more eloquently by people who are better prepared to speak to it than I am so I just wanted to simply show up tonight to say to please vote on a complete ban on no-knock warrants that's it for me I wanted to briefly mention this this doesn't read like a quick addendum this reads like instructions on how to make sure you can get a no-knock warrant that seems like it's the antithesis of what was supposed to be discussed. So I would encourage you to completely ignore this out of the vote and just vote no on no knock warrants. Thank you. Appreciate you all. Thank you very much. Next is Dana Rogers and then Robin Kunkel and then Reverend Williams. Are you Robin? Go ahead and you can speak. My name is Robin Kunkel. I live in the city of Winchester, but I used to live in Lexington for over a decade. Most of my community is still here and I care a great deal about their safety, which is why I'm here this evening. You, it feels like you're trying to say that no knocks should be allowed in order to preserve life, but we've seen in so much painful detail in this state and others across the nation, and how they frequently have the opposite effect. Citizens are not allowed to recklessly endanger one another. I'm not allowed to. I don't see why you should be able to or why police officers should be able to. For example, if I were to drive intoxicated but happened to make it home safely without running into anyone, are my actions then justifiable? Would I not be held accountable by the law? Why are we making exceptions for police officers to take actions at least as risky as that. Lexington citizens can't even grow a shrub too close to a sidewalk without being harassed by code enforcement and fined and having liens put on their homes. So why are they policed so carefully over such meaningless, not dangerous parts of their lives while police officers are allowed to conduct dangerous no-knock warrants that often end in death? why is their reckless endangerment justifiable? To allow police here the power and risk of using no-knocks is to ignore the fact that they have yet to be held accountable for the many other tools they have misused against us. I ask you to ban no-knocks in their entirety, without any exceptions, past the original ordinance. The risk is not worth it for any of us. And if I were in your position, and I had the chance to pass this and chose not to and chose instead to wait until one of these no-knocks goes wrong, I don't know how I would live with myself. And I hope you take that into consideration. Thank you. Pastor Williams, and is Dana Rogers here? Okay, you come on, please, and then Pastor Williams. And then Rachel Ehlers. Can you hear me through this? Yes. Okay. So I'm Dana Rogers, and I am in James Brown's District 1. And I've written my stuff down so that I don't mess up what I'm saying. So, council members, I ask you to please vote yes. We have to ban the use of no-knock warrants by the Division of the Police. please pass this ordinance with no amendments and no substitutes. No-knock warrants threaten our civil rights. They are inconsiderate of our physical and mental integrity, life, and safety. No-knocks are inconsiderate of the privacy and well-being of both police officers and the victims of no-knock warrants. They put everyone in danger of discrimination and provide opportunities for many mistakes. We need this ban now to further hold the Lexington Police Department accountable. Please pass a complete ban now with no amendments and no substitutes. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Next is Pastor Williams, Reverend Williams, Rachel Ellers, and then Anna Bard. Welcome. Thank you. Good evening. I'm Clark Williams. I am in Preston Worley's district, 7th district. As a native Lexingtonian, I'm grieved tonight that we are even considering this. With this amendment, you're working way too hard to do nothing, which is evidenced by the long struggle tonight to even try to figure out how you can introduce it. You're proposing passing something that has already been passed in Frankfurt. There's nothing to vote on there. This is already state law. This is nothing, and we are not fooled. The only people who feel safe with no-knock warrants, regardless of how often they are executed, are people who don't believe that they would ever be executed against them, even by mistake. And no one who looks like me has that luxury of believing that. And it troubled us when a council member got the proposed ordinance amended in committee to strike the 15-second wait period after knocking and announcing, and then still voted against her own amendment. But tonight's amendment is even worse. You say that there are so many in the community that are on both sides of this, and I'm not saying everybody's on the same side. But where are the so many supporters on the other side of this amendment tonight, on the other side of the band tonight? They're not here. Don't vote for this nothing amendment. Vote the real ordinance up or vote it down if you choose to. But don't do this. Tonight is the night that the community is calling on you to take a stand. City leaders have historically pretended that there is nothing wrong in Lexington. The fact that we're even looking at this tonight shows that there's a lot that's very wrong in Lexington. This is embarrassing and it's shameful, and we implore you to do the right thing tonight. Thank you. Thank you very much. Next is Rachel Ellers, and then Anna Bard, and then Susan Pollock. If you all can cue up, please. Welcome to the podium. and if you'll state your name and council district you'll have three minutes hello my name is rachel ehlers and i live in councilman james brown's district district one i'll keep it short tonight i'm here this evening to voice my support for passing the ban on no knock warrants unamended here in lexington it is crucial that we demilitarize our police force and stop treating our citizens as combatants in some sort of domestic war. This is one step in the right direction. Lexington must ban no-knock warrants, and we are asking you, our council members, to do the right thing. Councilman Worley, your attempts to undermine this ban disgust me. I'll yield the remainder of my time. Thank you. Next is Anna Bard, then Susan Pollack, then Willis Polk. Welcome. Hi. My name is Anna Bard. I live with my three sons and my wife in the third district. Hi, Anna. You know, it's really a shame that so many black people in our community have to come up here and tell a mostly white council about their trauma to push for a change that will make them feel just a little bit safer. That said, thanks to all that have shared and taken time to be here. You know, I love this town. I truly, truly believe it's a really special place. In fact, I run a business that's with the sole mission of promoting Kentucky's people, places, and products. But I'm aware that while it's a great place for many, it is not a great place for all people. And that's not okay. No-knock warrants are violent and racist. We must ultimately ban outright the practice of forced entry police raids, including no-knock and quick-knock raids. This is not a time for substitutes or sidesteps or marginal, meaningless reform. please step up today make lexington a better place for all people and ban no knock horns thank you very much next is susan pollack then reverend polk and then ann don worth welcome thank you thanks um my name is susan pollack and i live in the third district and i'm going to be brief because a lot of people have touched on good things but i came tonight because I thought it was really important to ask you to ban no-knock warrants. And I think you convened a commission. The commission worked really hard. I listened to some of those things. The commission asked for you to ban no-knock warrants. That was one of the recommendations. So to sit here and propose an alternative like the one that you did seems to me to really disrespect the people in that commission and the work of everybody and also the thousands of black Lexington people who have been asking for that in the faith community. I think that we need no-knock warrants because we need to get rid of, to ban no-knock warrants, excuse me, because they make people unsafe who are in the community. But I also am the sister of a retired police officer, not from Lexington, from another state. and I want the police to come home safe too. And in a state where so many people have guns in their house, if you come bursting through their door, they are going to shoot back. And if you think that they're not prepared to do that, I think you're deluding yourself. And I don't think it accomplishes anything, but it endangers the police and it endangers the citizenry. And it's hardly ever used, so we really don't need it as a tool, but we badly need to ban it. And I also think that you've been asked that by so many people in the community that to disrespect that is to basically dismiss a significant part of the Lexington community. And I think we have an opportunity to change that going forward. So thank you. And please don't vote for the amendment and do ban no-knock warrants. Thank you. Thank you very much. Next is Reverend Polk and then Ann Dunworth. Welcome. Welcome. Yes, my name is Reverend Willis Polk. I'm the pastor of the Monte Baptist Church, and we do business in Councilman James Brown's district. I had no intentions of speaking tonight. I'm straight from the public park with my grandson swimming. Other than that, I would be suited and booted for this occasion, dressed like Pastor Warren's Nathan Moore. But I found it necessary to say something tonight because of the process. coming in and hearing of the introduction of this substitute ordinance, it never should have been heard because of the rules that govern the process. And I think in the beginning when it was introduced by Councilman James Brown, there was a lot of discussion about the process. And Mayor, when you called for a motion, you called for a motion twice. and the rules that govern that should have killed it in the process, but you persisted in getting the motion. And I'm here to say that it should have died in the rules that govern the process. And after persisting on getting the motion, finally we get one, and then we hear that the ordinance is being printed in the back for the rest of us to see and hear. I don't know about anyone else, but that doesn't smell good. It doesn't look good. And it doesn't feel good. And I think that the ball was dropped from the very beginning. We ought not be acting on this substitute ordinance. That's my position. Thank you. Ann Dunworth is next. And then we have two people who wish to speak to other issues, and we'll hear them now also. Rick Day and Jesse Bockworth welcome great good evening I'm and Dunworth I'm in resident of the 5th district with councilmember Sheehan I came tonight about something else completely but as I sat here listening it really came to the point where I really needed to share my personal opinion here tonight and and throughout the last few weeks and months we have all listened to all of our black and brown neighbors and community leaders ask and beg not to have a no walk to have no no to ban no knock warrants excuse me i get tongue tied there if we really want to move forward as our community here if we want to honor the hours that have been put forward in this mayor's commission for racial justice and equity. If we want to move past our history as a slave of slavery here in the bluegrass, we've got to listen to the peace of people who are most impacted by the policies that this body sets forth. When I work in policy I always ask myself what is the downside? Well for police this is one of many tools that they have in their tool set in their toolbox. They could either use something else or worst case scenario perhaps a suspected criminal stays free a little bit longer for the citizens it means the potential death of an innocent person that's not a downside that i can accept as a human being police have other resources people who are surprised in the safety of their own homes do not we've also heard we've also not heard tonight about the stray bullets which the louisville police department accidentally shot into brianna taylor's neighbor's apartment this is not even about what accidents could happen in the execution of the warrant whether or not they have the right residence what happens when someone is surprised when someone is surprised they're going to fight back that's the fight or flight resource there There are other people in this community, and there are other tools that the police department can use to serve justice. In this country, we are not only innocent until proven guilty, but we also respect the inalienable right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. If any policy is going to impact our potential life, it is not worth it. I hope you all will ban no-knock warrants. Thank you. much is Rick Day still here okay what about Jesse maybe Jesse Bollinger Bollinger thank you I'm so sorry and I came to speak on something else but I got to speak on this I'm a licensed clinical social worker and I'm from I'm District 12, Kathy Plowmans, and I live on Old Frankfurt Pike, and I've had six Black Lives Matter signs stolen that I keep replacing. I think there's a problem, you know, because people are driving 55 miles an hour down Old Frankfurt Pike, and they see a Black Lives Matter sign, and they have to take it. They don't like that. So there is a problem. You all have the ability to make something better. And that is only this. It's the only difference. So ban no-knock warrants and do something that all of these beautiful, wise people have all of these experiences generationally. that you can do something about. So I love this community. I've lived here since I came to college, and I love it. And I do also know indirectly that Breonna Taylor had like 54 bullets, 54 bullets in her body. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Band. Don't be trying to water anything down. You can make a stand for something better here. So do it. And I'm going to keep buying a sign and putting it in my yard because black lives matter. And you all can make that choice now. Thanks. Thank you very much. Is Rick Day here? Okay. Is there anyone else signed up in the back? Could someone check? No? No one else signed up? Thank you very much. okay that completes our list of public speakers and several on the council have asked to have about a six minute break and so we will recess for six minutes and be right back Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Now, there is a motion on the floor to substitute and thereby amend ordinance number seven. So this is an opportunity for council members to speak. And I'll first recognize Council Member Kloiber. Councilmember Reynolds got bumped somehow by the IT genies. So we're going to move her back up to after Councilmember Kloiber. Thank you, Mayor. So I haven't spoken publicly on this subject. I was in committee when we passed it out, and I was in work session when we put it here today. And I feel like after all of the input that I've gotten and after all that I've heard, I just I need to make sure that I can get my feelings my opinion and the way I'm thinking of this out to the public no matter how effective a no-knock warrant can be in certain circumstances we've heard from sources numerous sources that the existence of this tool makes people feel unsafe it's not just that it also creates a level of tension and mistrust between members of the community and our law enforcement officers this tension is palpable both in our community and in this room looking out I have to ask myself very candidly can it really be safer for us to have this kind of unease between our residents and the men and women who dedicate their lives to protect them and does the safety provided by this tool compensate for the increased hostility and mistrust that our officers will be faced with on a daily basis I think if given a choice between the two any honest officer would choose to have the best relationship possible with their community understanding that it makes it both easier and safer for them to protect the population that trusts them to do what needs to be done. Our dwindling recruitment numbers speak strongly to this point, and they show us that this issue is not simply an evaluation of a rarely used police procedure. At its heart, this is an issue of trust. Trust can be fragile. Trust can be broken. But most importantly, trust takes time. And since the 1600s, law enforcement has been required to knock and announce themselves before forcibly entering a home. It's only been since the 1980s that we even considered the use of the current no-knock policies that flies in contravention of hundreds of years of established trust and procedure. That's not to say that a discussion on no-knock warrants is an indictment of the current officers in the LPD. This was an issue long before they got here, and this tenure doesn't reflect on this exact policy. But in the short time that this tool has been used throughout the country, it's affected some groups more than others and eroded away the trust people have in the police system itself. Now, this may not be fair to the men and women currently serving on the LPD, but it's the reality we face. And while our officers may be some of the best in the nation, their lives are being put at an elevated risk each and every day from this tension, even if it's not through a fault of their own. For the safety of our officers who interact with the public on a daily basis, as well as for the safety of our residents who are crying out quite literally to be heard, it falls to us to help restore the trust between the two. I would like to take this opportunity, as the first time speaking to this topic, to urge my colleagues not to vote on this issue based on the merits or detriments of a technical procedural argument, but instead to view this for what it is, as an issue of trust. It's our mutual trust and respect that stands as the cornerstone on which the safety of our society is built. Without it, none of the laws we pass in these chambers would have any real meaning. The people have put their trust in us today, And it's my hope that with a vote to ban no-knock warrants We can work together to help create a safer and more trusting tomorrow. Thank you Thank you next is councilmember Reynolds Thank you mayor I'm not going to go into detail about no knock warrants tonight, but I do want to speak about this amendment I Wish that I could make everyone happy that every single one of my constituents would be pleased with what decision I make tonight. I wish that the police would be pleased with the decision I make tonight, and I wish that we would not all be so divided. But that is not the case, and sometimes we are called to make decisions that are very challenging, even though many will be in disagreement with the decision that we make. I am not happy with this amendment because it could have been vetted in the Planning and Public Safety Committee. It was in committee, and we had the opportunity there to look at it, to change it, to talk about it, and it passed unanimously out of the committee that my colleague is the vice chair of. This is something that we did not have to do last minute. there wasn't a reason to do it last minute the public didn't have time to talk about it we didn't have time to digest it and talk about it and sometimes as policymakers we do do last-minute amendments but in this case I feel that it was unfair I disagree that this is a compromise that both sides will somewhat agree with I say I understand that there is all kinds of pressure on all of us from all sides and that whatever way we vote as I said before will not make everyone happy but this change is not a perfect medium and I am disappointed in it I urge my colleagues to think hard and I know you all have and it's been a tough decision for each of you but before voting on this motion that does not respond to people's concerns for how they want to be policed. In the end, all of us should have a say in how we want to be policed. I, too, appreciate our police and what they do for us daily, and I think that they do a wonderful job. But I also believe that trust is something to be earned, and And I believe that this ban will help bring trust to community members with the police and that it's a first step. So tonight I would ask that everyone think clearly, I know you are, and try to make the best decision you can for the peace of our community and for those that might be in the minority. Thank you. Thank you. Councilmember Lagree. Thank you mayor for recognizing me. I too am going to speak about the proposed amendment. I've spoken in the past about councilmember James Brown's proposed ordinance to ban no-knock warrants but right now I'll speak to the amendment that's been brought up here tonight. Based on the emails that I've received from my constituents and thank you to those of who are here tonight who have spoken, that takes bravery and I appreciate you. I appreciate that the third district and my colleagues know where I stand on no knock warrants. My vote is to ban them and my vote will continue to be to ban them. So it's not a question that I'll vote to oppose this amendment. That being said, I should also note that even if this amendment were something that I completely agreed with, Rather than something that I'm opposed to, I would still not vote in favor of this amendment. Because of the way that it is being presented, and I think that way is inappropriate. I recognize that there are times when we have to be more expedient to suspend the rules, in order to bring forward an issue in a very time sensitive way. We're not in that type of moment with this amendment tonight. When people think about governance and at the same time think about bureaucracy, they often think of red tape, unnecessary burdens that slow down progress to an ineffective crawl. But the truth about the speed of governance is that it is a spectrum. Not a spectrum where on one side you have the slow and the other side you have the fast. But a spectrum where on one side you have speed and on the other side transparency. This transparency gives the public opportunity to review legislation and to share feedback. It also gives legislators time to understand what they are voting on, to ask relevant questions and to reach out to their constituencies about the matter at hand. Amending this ordinance in such a way that it completely changes the text and intent of the ordinance and to attempt as much on the second reading, removes the ability for the engagement or feedback from the public. And thank you to those of you who have attempted to engage tonight. For many months, my constituents have been requesting that LFUCG move forward on a ban on no knock warrants. For at least a month, we've been discussing this particular ordinance. If an amendment needed to be made, as Council Member Reynolds just mentioned, it could have been made or presented at any point during that time. And I believe that to do so now at the 11th hour with this particular ordinance is unacceptable. And yes, I understand that because this constitutes a material change, the new amended ordinance would need to receive a new first reading. But to substitute two weeks of discussion and review of a completely new text, where previously we had more than a month, is insufficient and incompatible with the transparent government. Not to mention that not all council members received a copy of the amendment early on or even before this afternoon, nor were we invited to discuss it until tonight. I would urge all of my colleagues to vote no on this amendment. If the amendment is worthy on its own merits, then let it stand on its own merits. Vote council member James Brown's ordinance up or down, and then put this amendment into committee for discussion if you'd like. But I believe that frankly it's disingenuous to submit one ordinance banning no knock warrants. Pretend to have a transparent process for our community members. And then switch it at the last moment with a completely different ordinance that accomplishes nothing close to the original. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Councilmember Sheehan. Thank you, Mayor. I've also spoken to the original ordinance, so tonight I'm talking about the amendment. I will not be supporting this amendment. We are being asked to substitute what amounts to regulations of the use of no-knock warrants rather than the original ordinance that we have been discussing for months. I came to my decision for the same reasons tonight that I expressed when this body voted down a very similar amendment on June 8th. Government is all about people. And if it's not, then you're doing the wrong thing. And the people we represent have been excluded from the discussion on this substitution. We routinely remind the public that there are processes that the government follows in order to be deliberate and transparent. From my perspective, this process tonight cannot be characterized as either deliberate nor transparent. Regardless of where residents fall on this issue, they have a right to see material changes of this magnitude before we take our votes. This document was just made public tonight, and in fact, I was not given a copy of this to review until 2-26 this afternoon. Civic Lex just presented data to us last week, showing that there are people in our community who don't think their input will matter. and others who simply just don't trust our government at all. Actions like this last-minute substitution erodes confidence in government and compounds the idea that our people's government does not work for them. This is not a minor one-line amendment. This is a complete change, and the community deserves better. The original ordinance has been discussed and voted out of committee. It received a first reading after a very similar amendment was voted down. The public has given input about the original ordinance brought forward by Councilmember James. It has gotten to the second reading, and the public expects us to vote on it. I understand that it's a hard vote. We have recently passed a diversity, equity, and inclusion statement. We made the racial justice and equality commission permanent. We voted to honor Juneteenth. those were easy to do. Now we are faced with the harder actions, like a vote on this original ordinance. I encourage my colleagues to reject this substitution and vote on the ordinance as reflected in the docket. This is your moment to show that you are willing to do the hard things, not just the easy. Thank you. Next is Vice Mayor Kaye. Thank you, Mayor. Like some of my colleagues, I think my position on this has been clear for quite a while. I've spoken about it and I've written about it. So, and I'm not going to go over at this point all the arguments that are both reasons for and reasons against the proposed ban on no knocks. We'll have time to do that. And I'm also not going to attempt to speak on the impact of racial oppression as others have so eloquently spoken to. I really only want to make a simple point and it's already been made but I want to emphasize it. And that is, this is not a compromise. I think I have a fair reputation for being interested in compromise and working on compromise and valuing compromise. And if there were a way to compromise this on this, I would be looking forward. But I look at the actual language that they've put before us. And in the summary of the ordinance it says, this the use of no knock warrants by the division of police will not be used solely for the purpose of preventing the loss or destruction of evidence. My understanding is that that's already practice in our police force. That they will not use no knocks solely for the prevention of loss of evidence. So this does not add anything to what we already know is policy. And then I look at section B1, about halfway down the page. It says no police officer of the Lexington Fayette, Urban County Government, Division of Police shall seek, execute, or participate in the execution of a no-knock warrant unless, and then there's a list. The crime is alleged is a crime that would qualify a person if convicted as a violent offender under KRS 439.3401. The crime alleged is a crime designated, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Or the evidence sought might give rise to the charge of a crime that would qualify if a person if convicted as a violent offender under KRS, et cetera, might give rise to the charge of a crime. I look at that language and I have looked at all of the warrants, all of the no-knock warrants that have been issued in the last five years. I believe, and I can stand corrected, every single one of them would be permitted under this language. So my conclusion is this does not move us forward at all. It's not a ban, it's not a compromise, it's a complete change. So where I end up at the moment, since we have an amendment and we're not at the underlying ordinance, is that really I appeal to my colleagues. I ask that you reject this amendment and allow this council to have an up or down vote on the underlying question. Will we or will we not ban no knocks? Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, next is Council Member Lamb. Thank you, Mayor. And many of you all know that I was the one that I introduced a compromise and it failed. And I actually was discussing this substitute ordinance up until this morning. And all along the path, I kept hearing, because on June 8th, I asked for my constituents to contact me. And I asked for you to talk to me and tell me your thoughts. and you all have spoken to me, each one of you, that you all have reached out to me and you all have given me thought-provoking emails and very respectful emails, and I applaud you all for those because those mean a lot. And so what I say tonight is I plead to my colleagues as well. Please, we have sat here, there are 36 public members have stood at this podium and spoke to us tonight. Now, I had already decided before the 36 stood here, because I wasn't gonna introduce this tonight, because it wasn't the right thing to do. It wasn't in my heart. Had numerous people telling me, follow your heart, not procedure, not policy, follow your heart. And yes, I know, I've had many conversations with our chief, and I know, I realize that I'm going against what we talked about, but sir, I'm sorry. I trust you, I trust our police officers, we have outstanding police officers, but we need to do what's right for this community tonight. And let me just say, I hope that my colleagues will not support this amendment. We need to pass the ban, and I'm the one that's taken and turned it around, okay? And I see it, and so I ask for my colleagues colleagues to not support the amendment, but to support the ban. And thank you all for your time tonight and for coming here to speak to us on a night that needed to be done. So, thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Ellinger. Thank you, Mayor. As an at-large representative, I represent all of Lexington and Fayette County, and I have to look at what's best for all and everyone in our community. The issue of no-knock warrants is one of the most divisive I've been involved in in the 14-plus years I've been on the council. I had the utmost respect for the people on both sides of this issue, from the black faith leaders to the police chief. I've received hundreds of emails, texts, calls from both sides, and I feel the passion in this issue resonates with each and every one of you. My job is to weigh what is best for the city, for everyone. Unfortunately, it's not an easy decision for me. I've looked at the pros and cons of both sides and there's a long list on both sides when councilmember Lamb brought in the the Substitute ordinance two weeks ago We were on zoom We didn't have the ordinance. I didn't have it in front of me So I didn't really know what I was going to be actually Voting on the differences so since that time we looked and tried to see if we could come up with a compromise and that's what we tried to work on I wanted to see if there was a way that we could have additional layers in. We added the Commissioner of Public Safety and try to make sure there was more, there's six layers of approval and to make sure the one thing that the last four out of five that have been served have all been preservation of evidence. And I wanted to make sure that if we did it, it was preservation of life. And Chief, could you come to the microphone please, if you don't mind? Thank you Chief. Welcome. When this ordinance was presented to you and you looked over it, the things that I think that were tried to get was the banning to make sure that the purpose was for destruction of evidence. And I think that is something that was taken care of here because if we do it, I want to make sure it's just preservation of life and not preservation of evidence. And when you've looked at this, does that take care of that? That is what I always wanted it to be. that's what I wanted everybody to look at. What you have to understand is when I was asked about this, I look at it from a professional standpoint. And I've said before and I'll say it again, there are circumstances where it might be necessary to do a no-knock. However, they need to be and should be closely regulated. Everybody wants to talk about the past. Well, the one that happened in the past wasn't well regulated. It did have some policies and procedures that weren't followed, but we added more. The ones we did after that, we didn't have the issues that we had with those. I understand that the disparity of execution can be caused by focusing on certain types of crime. But what I would like to see is us not focus on the types of crimes, but the type of violent criminal activity that we sometimes have to address. And I don't know what people think as far as me as a person, but it's difficult to have to look at things from three or four different angles. But that's what leadership's about, because I have to look at it from the police perspective, from the community perspective, because I live here in Councilmember Reynolds' district. I have to look at it from a historical perspective as far as who I am and where I come from and what's going on. And I have to look at it from a family perspective. as a father and a husband with teenage children. But I will tell you this unequivocally, that I'm a public servant, and I will give you my best opinion on every subject. Chief, someone has a motion, and I apologize for interrupting you, but there's a motion. I move to allow the Chief to finish and give Councilman, Member Ellinger, a couple minutes to finish off his remarks. Second. Thank you. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? Thank you. Sorry to interrupt. and as such you all represent your constituents and i've talked to quite a few of you and i told you that you need to do what your constituents want you to do and then i work for you all so whatever you ask me to do i will do my best so if banning no knocks is what you want my goal will still be to maintain the life and safety of everybody on both sides of that door. So don't worry if you're offending the police, because I'm also a servant leader, and they have to follow me, and they will follow me, and that means they will follow what you want to do. So you do what you need to do to please your constituents, and then I will do what I need to do to make sure your constituents get the best service from the best police department in the country. Thank you. Thank you, Chief. Thank you, Chief. The four no-knocks we've had in the last five years were evidence drugs, and this is banned in this ordinance. I hope we don't ever have to have another no-knock it. I think this substitute limits it to a very, very, very small exception for the preservation life. I'll support this. If it doesn't pass, then I will support the total ban. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member McCurn. Thank you, Mayor. Chief, thank you for speaking there. Everyone here in the audience tonight, thank you guys for your comments. thank you for the emails for the phone calls the text messages the posts I did like my colleagues several of us I've prepared a statement tonight to regarding this and I'll probably speak later on as well but I would like to read this off first and then a few other comments as we sit here this evening we are tasked with probably the most divisive polarizing issue that I I myself and quite possibly this council chambers has ever seen. An issue that now stands before us that has been discussed in our community for several months. I've done my due diligence. I've held and participated in community discussions, sought outside input from both sides. I've read every email, every text message, every social media message or post. I've talked to many on the phone. I've talked with numerous constituents. I've talked with the police department, I've talked with the black faith leaders, and the general consensus is, this is split. Very split. Despite what this room is seeing tonight, this is very split. Many have stated that there should be a compromise from the opposite sides. We hear tonight, okay, well, the other side isn't budging. Well, I've heard from the opposite side, too, that every side is not budging. this legislation right now is that compromise or the closest we've come to it so far it bans preservation of evidence you cannot go in on a no-knock warrant for preservation of evidence but solely for the fact of preservation of life it allows i hear the community I hear the police department. I look to meet in the middle. I look to serve the community in our best way. I understand that some may not have had two weeks to ponder this. But this discussion has been there all along. This council has witnessed many times late amendments in the past, and it will again in the future. It's not going to stop. Yes, the process could have been different. It could have changed. It can change moving forward. The best to our ability. For weeks, this item has been a tough, very, very tough decision. Do I support the police department? Absolutely. I let my record reflect on that one. This ordinance has become polarizing, and it makes it seem like I do not support our police department, and that's wrong. I support our community, though, too. My initial vote was to vote not going against the police, but supporting our community and their ask for help. We are elected for the people and by the people. We serve in a capacity to stand for our communities to represent their needs, both sides, and go to bat for the most controversial of issues. To me, this ordinance substitution is better. If the substitution for- Please respect the speaker. Thank you, Mayor. If the substitution fails, I will stay with my initial vote. I will not change that. I will ban no-knock warrants altogether, but I believe this option best serves the public. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member Worley. Thank you, Mayor. Chief, could you please come up for one final question? For the public, this is how the process works. And any council member has the right to ask any member of the administration to come forward to speak. Thank you, Chief. Just a follow-up to Council Member Ellinger's questions. This proposed amendment, which would allow for the use of a no-knock warrant only in a life-saving situation and not for the preservation of evidence or any other purpose, do you, Chief of Police, support this amendment, sir? Well, as I said before, I think in limited circumstances, a no-knock search warrant can be useful. the amendment spells out limited circumstances that fit what I believe so I'm not going to change my professional opinion is so my answer would be yes to that profession thank you and now to discuss the amendment itself and why I've brought it forward and I want to thank Vice Mayor Kay and Council Member Lamb for voicing their objections to the substance of the amendment. Because in our legislative process, compromise can be sought and sometimes achieved all the way to the last vote. And so that's what we do often here. We do it regularly on many issues. I want to state my intentions, and I hope they're understood, even if not agreed with. and there are several friends in the gallery there, good friends that I know disagree with me on this issue. I also have several friends and constituents that do agree and have asked for this sort of measure. I believe that there exist rare circumstances wherein this tool can protect the lives and safety of residents and police alike. Our chief has told us that. I believe that extensive regulation with several checks and balances, along with an outright prohibition of the use of this tool for any reason other than protecting life and safety, is more appropriate than an outright ban. I believe it serves our purpose. I believe it is compromise. And that is my intention always, was to seek compromise. I stand by that and I'd ask my colleagues to support this amendment. Thank you. Thank you. Councilmember Sheehan. Thank you, Mayor. Chief Weathers, I also have a question for you, if you don't mind to come down. Chief's getting his steps in. Oh, yeah. I'm just helping you out with your exercise for today. I know we've been sitting for a long time. So my question for you is that it is my understanding. This says that this amendment reads that we are banning the use of no-knock warrants by the Division of Police solely for the purpose of preventing the loss or destruction of evidence so I just have a quick yes or no question for you were we approving no-knock warrants prior to this solely for the preservation of evidence several years ago yes but but recently no not recently not since 2016 so this banning the use of no-knock warrants solely for the purpose of preventing the loss or destruction of evidence we were not doing that no ma'am thank you thank you I'm going to call next on councilmember James Brown and then we'll go back to the vice mayor who has already spoken once. Thank you, Mayor. I just want to speak to the amendment that I will not support and encourage my other council members not to support or the substitute ordinance. I view it as not much different than Senate Bill 4 with a little twist on the moratorium that we've had in place for over a year. And I think that's important because with that moratorium being in place, we still heard from the community that it's not enough. I think the amendment or the substitute is not what the community is asking for. All the emails I've got over the last month, over the last week, the last couple of days, with today getting my last email at 521 P.O., and they were overwhelmingly in support of us banning no-knocks. Not compromising, not partially banning, but fully banning no-knock warrants. So I think that's what this council has been asked to do. I think we owe it to the community, to the public that have been voicing those concerns for over a year, more emphatically over the last few months, last few weeks. And I think it's time for this council to do something to address local police and policy. I think it's unfortunate that this whole issue has been turned into whether or not or how we feel on this policy is whether or not we support our police department. I think that's unfortunate. I think everybody sitting here, I think everybody in the community, or mostly everybody in our community supports our police department. And I've seen people show it. I show it. I try to tell the officers every time I see them that I appreciate everything that you're doing. I talk to the chief on a regular basis, and we disagree on this issue, but there's nothing but mutual respect there. So it's unfortunate that this whole issue has been put that way. and I'll say this I got a text and somebody said something to me about I think it's unfortunate that you have so many officers in the chamber today are they trying to intimidate the council and I said well you don't know our police department you don't know our chief and you don't know Lexington I see all our officers in this chamber today because I think they support the council I think they support our community we're talking about a policy that's going to affect them in some form or fashion and they are interested and know that it's going to have some implication on them so they want to see how it turns out. But I think I see them here with us today in support and nothing other than that. So I'll stand up for our department. I'll stand up for our community as well and I think this council has to stand up and address the issue that's before us today and it's not whether or not we amend or alter the ordinance in front of us I think we vote that down and then I think we take a vote on what the community has asked us to make a decision on and that's whether the ban or not ban no knock warrants thank you mayor you're welcome thank you does any other councilmember wish to speak no all right the motion on the floor and I'll I'll ask our clerk to do electronic voting, not voice voting, and not aye, nay. We'll take an electronic vote on the motion to substitute the ordinance that has been brought before you. So all those in favor, please log in your electronic vote. All right, that vote fails 8 to 7. Now, the ordinance number 7 is on the docket for second reading, And so I believe we're at the point where I'll ask our clerk to give it second reading. Yes, ma'am. Ordinance number seven, an ordinance and acting section 23-51 of the code of ordinances of the Lexington Urban County government banning the use of no knock warrants by the division of police, requiring Lexington police officers to knock and announce themselves before entering a premise to execute a warrant, and requiring any Lexington police officer present in the initial entry and securing of the scene of a warrant to be equipped with and activate a body-worn camera. Thank you. Thank you very much. I'd like a motion to approve. So move. Second. All right. Vice Mayor Kay moves approval. Council Member Ellinger seconds. And when you're ready, Madam Clerk, if you'll take a roll call vote, please. Will there be no discussion on the motion? This is, well, it's second reading. Normally you do not have discussion. You have a motion to approve. So that is your process. If you want to change it, you can. No? Okay. All right. Will you take the roll call vote, please? Yes, ma'am. Ms. Legree? Yes. Mr. McCurn? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Maloney? No. Ms. Plowman? Yes. Ms. Reynolds? Yes. Ms. Sheehan? Yes. Mr. Worley? No, ma'am. Ms. Baxter? No, ma'am. Ms. Bledsoe? No, ma'am. Mr. Fred Brown? No. No. Mr. James Brown. Yes. Mr. Ellinger. Yes, ma'am. Vice Mayor Kay. Yes. Mr. Koiber. Yes, ma'am. Ms. Lamb. Absolutely, yes. Thank you very much. That motion passes 10 to 5. Vice Mayor Kaye. If I can. Could we have just a little bit of order? We could. Vice Mayor Kaye has the floor. I'd like to pause for a moment and ask everybody else to pause for a moment. This is an important vote for our community. And there are reasonable differences of opinion, as has been stated. And I've spoken and written about the need to understand the differences of opinion and I hope people will honor that. And recognize that there are legitimate differences in this community about many things and certainly about now the role of police. I thank all of you on behalf of the council for being here, for working on this issue, and for informing us about what's so important for the community. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Does anyone else wish to speak, council members? If I might take a moment for some comments. Tonight our council has voted to ban no-knock warrants. Our chief has said he will protect all people's safety, whether there is a ban or not. I support our chief. He is a good chief. He has a good department of officers who work with him. We have heard and felt your passion, your sense of urgency, your emotion. And I want to thank each and every one of you for being here tonight. This is democracy in action, and I'm very proud of our city because we have all taken the time to listen. It's 9.15, and the council still has a full meeting ahead of it. So this is how it works. And tonight the decision's been made, and now it's time for our community to come together. Let's recognize that no-knock warrants are not partisan. They do not define whether you support racial justice or not. They do not define whether you're for the police or not. Like many cities in this country, we are a community trying to navigate meaningful change, meaningful reforms. That's what this is about, including safety for all. so let's remember this is Lexington we can put an end to divisive unnecessary rhetoric and we can agree to disagree and have discussion just like happened tonight so I call on our African American ministers many of whom are here tonight I call on them because they have been a very important part of this conversation for a year. And I call on our police officers, our men and women who have chosen public safety as their life's work. I call on those who've peacefully marched through our community for 59 days last summer. And I call on every resident of Lexington, every resident, because that is what it is going to take to come together and help make Lexington the best it can be. Tonight, the council will give first reading to the establishment of a permanent commission for racial justice and equality. Since the original commission, which I established last summer, gave its report, we have been working to implement its 54 recommendations. We're about halfway there. And I would urge everyone to monitor this. We will be putting out regular reports to the community as we did in April. And the appointment of this permanent commission is extremely important. The resources we've committed to it and will continue to commit to it signal how serious we are about continuing this work together. So true success is going to require commitment from all of us for many years to come. This is not a one-shot deal. And so I appreciate everyone who has taken hours out of your evening to come here and speak to the council. I appreciate the council, and it's really good, thoughtful work, hard work over these last many months that you've discussed this. And so I thank each and every one of you also. now with that we are finished with no knock warrants for tonight if you need to leave you're welcome to do so and council will give just a minute to clear the chamber of whoever wants to leave and then we'll continue Council members. To the public, To the public, do you mind to take your celebrations out of the chamber so we can continue? Thank you. Okay, council members, let's go ahead and continue our meeting, please. And so I'll ask our clerk to please give first reading of ordinances. Yes, ma'am. ordinance number eight an orange is changing the zone from a planned neighborhood residential r3 zone to highway service business b3 zone for 0.99 net 1.46 gross acre from a light industrial i1 zone to a planned neighborhood residential r3 zone for 5.72 net 6.72 gross acres and from a light industrial i1 zone to a mixed use mu2 zone for 3.10 net 4.50 gross acres from property located at 508 to 619 to Rhodey Street, 564 to 568 McKinley Street, 555 to 565 Moreno Street, 800 and 833 Neville Street, 565 to 637 Patterson Street, portions of odd addresses only, and 813 and 816 Pine Street, Urban County Planning Commission, Council District 3, Item 9. An ordinance amending Articles 821 and 822, the zoning ordinance to provide adaptive reuse and flex-based projects and remove industrial mixed-use project, Item 10. An ordinance of many certain of the budgets of the license for urban county government reflect current requirements for municipal expenditures and appropriate reprooping funds fiscal year 2022, schedule number one, item 11. An ordinance providing that all full-time and part-time employees included in the unified pay plan who receive a satisfactory score on their performance evaluation pursuant to section 21-29D and 22-26-5 of the code ordinances shall receive a 3% pay increase, providing that section 21-29C and 22-26-5 notwithstanding all employees at or above the maximum of the pay grade salary range shall receive a 3% pay increase amending section 23-32D of the code of ordinances increasing the existence step structure for the positions of police chief grade 3-24E and fire chief grade 3-24E by 3% and adjusting the salaries accordingly and increasing the salary by 3% for three positions of law clerk part-time within the department of law one position of council administrator within the office of the urban county council and one position of park patrol coordinator part-time with the division of parks and recreation all but become all to become effective June 21 2021 item 12 an ordinance man in the classified civil service also authorized strength by reallocating one position of deputy director of traffic engineering and the incumbent from grade 529 to 5 grade 531 e one position of traffic signal systems manager and the incumbent from grade 527 to grade 530 in one position of traffic engineering manager and incumbent from gate 527 to 530 e and four positions of traffic engineering senior and the incumbents from grade 525 e to grade 528 e all in division traffic engineering two positions of engineering section manager and incumbents from grade 527 e to 530 e and nine positions of municipal engineer senior and the incumbents from grade 525 e to grade 528 e all in the division of engineering one position of engineering section manager and the incumbent from grade 527 to 530 e five positions of municipal engineer senior in the incumbents from grade 525 e to 528 e all in the division of water quality two positions of social worker senior and the incumbents from gate 516 e to grade 517 e in the division of aging and disability services one position of social worker senior in the incumbent from grade 516 e to grade 517 e in two positions of social workers in the incumbent from grade 513 e to grade 516 e in the vision of community and resident services one position of social worker senior in the incumbent from grade 516 in e to grade 517 e and two positions of social worker and incumbents from grade 513 e to grade 516 e and the division of family services with the position positions of social worker senior in the incumbents from grade 516 e to grade 517 e and one position of social worker in the incumbents from grade 513 e to grade 516 e abolishing two positions of social worker senior grade 516 e and creating one position of licensed clinical social worker grade 519 e and one position of clear certified social worker grade 518 e in the division of youth services we classifying the incumbents pursuant to section 21 27 e of the code of ordinances amending the unclassified civil service authorized strength reallocating one position of social worker and the incumbent from grade 513 e to grade 516 e in the division of aging and disability services abolishing one position of social worker senior grade 517 e in the creating one position of licensed clinical social worker grade 519 e and grief reclassifying the incumbent in the division of youth services affected June 21 2021 item 13 an ordinance pursuant to section 612 of the license fit urban county government charter creating a department of housing advocacy and community development transferring the divisions of code enforcement grants and special programs historic preservation community resident services the incumbents and all vacant positions to the department of housing advocacy and community development amending the classified civil service strength authorized strength creating one position of administrative officer senior grade 526 in the department of housing advocacy and community development amending the unclassified civil service authorized strength creating one position of commissioner of housing advocacy and community development grade 536e in the department of housing advocacy and community development abolishing one position of administrative officer officer grade 523 e and one position of a continuum of care coordinator grade 516 n in the offense of the chief administrative officer and creating one position of administrative administrative officer grade 523 e and one position of continuum of care coordinator grade 516 n in the division of grants and special programs and transferring the incumbent at their current job classification and pay sale a pay grade and salary effective june 1 2021. And item 14, an ordinance enacting Article L of Chapter 2 of the Code of Ordinances creating a racial justice and inequality commission. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any walk-ons for ordinances? All right, are there any suspensions to give second reading to ordinances? If you'll log in, please. Council Member Bledsoe. Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to suspend the rules and give second reading to item number 11 and item number 12, which are both positions we can move forward more quickly. So moved. All right. All right. Council Member McCurn seconded. Any questions? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? That motion passes. Councilmember Legree. Thank you, Mayor. At the request of the Lexington Community Land Trust and after checking with both planning and law, I move to suspend the rules and request second reading of item number eight under ordinances first reading. Councilmember Sheehan seconded. Are there any questions? All right, all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? All right, that motion passes. Are there other motions to suspend the rules? All right, we have number eight, number 11, and number 12. All right, if you will please go ahead and give those second reading. Yes, ma'am. Item eight, an ordinance changing the zone from a planned neighborhood residential R3 zone to a highway service business B3 zone for a 0.997. 1.46 gross acre from a light industrial i1 zone to a plain neighborhood residential r3 zone for 5.72 net 6.72 gross acres and from a light industrial i1 zone to a mixed-use mu2 zone for 3.10 net 4.50 gross acres for property located at 508 to 619 dorody street 564 and 568 mckinley street 555 to 565 marina street 800 and 833 neville street 565 to 637 patterson street portions of odd addresses only in 813 and 816 pine street urban plan urban county planning Commission council district 3 item 11 an ordinance providing that all full-time and part-time employees included in the unified pay plan who receive a satisfactory score on their performance evaluations pursuant to section 21 to 20 29 D and 22 26 5 of the code ordinances shall receive a 3% pay increase providing that sections 29 21 29 C and 25 26 5 notwithstanding all employees at or above the maximum of the pay salary range shall receive a three percent pay increase amending section 2332d of the code of ordinances increasing the existing step structure for positions of police chief grade 324e and fire chief grade 324e by three percent and adjusting the salaries accordingly and increasing the salary by three percent for three positions of law clerk part-time within the department of law one position of council administrator within the office of the urban county council and one position of parks patrol coordinator part-time within the division of parks and recreation all to become effective june 21 2021 item 12. an ordinance been in a classified civil service authorized reallocating one position of deputy director of traffic engineering and the income and the incumbent from grade 529 e to grade 531 e and one position of traffic single assistance manager in the incumbent from grade 527 e to grade 530 e and one position of traffic engineering manager in the incumbent grade 527 e to 530 e and four positions of traffic engineering senior in the incumbents from grade 525 to grade 528 20a on the division of traffic engineering two positions of engineering section manager and the incumbents from grade 527 to 530e and nine positions of municipal engineer or senior and the incumbents from grade 525 to grade 528 all in the division of engineering one position of engineering section manager and the incumbent from grade 527 to grade 530e and five position of municipal engineer senior and the incumbents from grade 525 to grade 528e all in the division water quality two positions of social worker senior in the incumbents from grade 516 e to grade 517 e in the division of aging and disability services and one position of social worker senior in the incumbent from grade 516 e to grade 517 e and two positions of social worker in the incumbents from grade 513 e to grade 516 e in the division of community and resident services one position of social worker senior in the incumbent from grade 516 e to grade 517 e and two positions of social worker in the incumbents from grade 513 e to grade 516 e in the division of family services three positions of social worker senior in the incumbents from grade 516 e to grade 517 e one position of social worker and the incumbent from grade 513 e to grade 516 e abolishing two positions of social workers in your group of 16 and creating one position of licensed clinical social worker create 519 e and one position of certified social worker grade 518 e in the division of youth services reclassifying the incumbents pursuant to section 21 2070 of the code of ordinances amending the unclassified civil service section author strength by reallocating one position of social worker and the incumbent from grade 513 e to grade 516 e in the division of aging and disability services abolishing one position of social worker senior grade 517e and creating one position of licensed clinical social worker grade 519e and reclassifying the incumbent in the division of youth services effective June 21, 2021. Thank you. Thank you very much. Is there a motion to approve? Let's see. Council Member Plumman moved and Council, I think I heard Council Member Baxter second or I'm sorry. It came from right there. Okay, when you're ready, if you will please take a roll call vote. Yes, ma'am. Ms. LeGree? Yes. Mr. McCurn? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Maloney? Ms. Plowman? Yes. Ms. Reynolds? Yes. Ms. Sheehan? Yes. Mr. Worley? Yes, ma'am. Ms. Baxter? Yes, ma'am. Ms. Bledsoe? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Fred Brown? Yes. Mr. James Brown? Yes. Mr. Ellinger? Yes, ma'am. Vice Mayor Kay? Yes. Mr. Kloiber? Yes, ma'am. And Ms. Lamb? Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Those all pass. Now, if you'll bear with me a moment, we have a few motions. First, Council Member Lamb has a motion. Yes, ma'am. Thank you for recognizing me. On the resolution second reading, I would like to make a motion to separate the question on resolution number 22 for the vote, please. Is there a second? Second. All right. Vice Mayor Kay seconds. The motion is to separate out number 22. And so is there any discussion? All right. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? No. No. Okay, we have how many, did I hear two no's? Council Member McKernan and Council Member Fred Brown are no votes. And so anyone else? Okay, well that passed, sorry. So why don't we do number 22 last? Last, okay. Separate it out and do it last. Now, we're ready for the second reading of resolutions, and the very first resolution has a public hearing attached to it, so we'll have the public hearing, but we also have a motion to amend it. So I'll call on Council Member McCurn to do the amendment, and then we'll have the public hearing. It's been a long nightmare, but you had the public hearing back at 6 o'clock. Oh, I'm sorry. There was a third one, though, that we missed. I'm sorry, I got the wrong one. On this one, you did have the public hearing at around 6 o'clock. So remind me which one we missed. We didn't do in the beginning. Item 29. 29. I apologize. I knew it was in here somewhere. So 29, we still have to have a public hearing. Thank you, David. Okay, now, Council Member McCurn. Thank you, Mayor. I move to amend the docket under item number one, under second reading resolutions, which pertains to the issuing of industrial revenue bond to add pilot agreement with the Lexington-Fayette County Health Department. This is not a material change to the resolution, therefore, it's not necessary to give a first reading. So move. Second. Council Member Reynolds seconds. Are there any questions or comments? All right, all those in favor of amending, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? All right, that motion passes. Now, I believe we are ready for second reading of resolutions, except for number 22. Resolution number one. A resolution of the License Fair Urban County Government giving the preliminary approval of industrial revenue bond financing for Astana LLC and any affiliates and assignees thereof authorizing initiation of the acquisition construction equipment and installation of industrial project agreeing to the undertake the issuance of one or more series of industrial revenue bonds at the appropriate time or times authorizing the execution and delivery of a memorandum of agreement and payment in lieu of taxes agreements in connection with the issuance of bonds and taking other preliminary actions as amended item two a resolution accepting the bid of CED incorporated establishing a a press contract for downtown street light equipment for division of traffic engineering item three a resolution accepting the bids of Acme Supply Company Limited Bob Barker Company Incorporated Charm Tex Incorporated Victory Supply Incorporated and ICS jail supplies Incorporated establishing press contract for jumpsuits for inmates for the division of community Corrections item forum resolution accepting a bid of tribute contracting and consultants LLC in the amount of three million five hundred eighty two thousand seven hundred seventy eight dollars for the southeastern hills trunk sewer improvements for the division of water quality and authorizing the mayor on behalf of the urban county government to execute an agreement with tribute contracting and consultants LLC related to the bid item five it was a resolution accepting a bit of blue tank and pump rental LLC and allied technical services incorporated establishing price contracts for temporary pumping services for the division water quality item six a resolution ratifying the probation and classified civil service appointments of John Brown public service senior supervisor senior group of 17 and 20.5 a hour in the division waste management effective June 21, 2021. Malcolm Arvin, public service supervisor senior, grade 517, 24.616 hourly in the division of waste management, effective June 21, 2021. Jeffrey Jones, public service supervisor senior, grade 517, 25.903 hourly in the division of waste management, effective June 21, 2021. Dominique Sparks, resource recovery operator, grade 513, 17.764 hourly in the division of waste management, effective June 21, 2021. Kendrick Shackelford, trades worker senior, grade 511, 17.02 hourly in the division of streets and roads, effective June 7, 2021. Janelle Patton, Director of Enhanced 911, Grade 526E 3864.16 bi-weekly, in the Division of Enhanced 911, effective June 21, 2021, and ratified the permanent classified civil service appointments of Coleman Gortman, engineering technician, Grade 514, and 19.468 hourly in the Division of Engineering, effective June 15, 2021, and ratified the probationary sworn appointments of Wesley Farley, police sergeant, Grade 315, and 32.408 hourly in the Division of Police, effective May 16, 2021. Item seven, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Airbag County Government to execute certificates of consideration and other necessary documents and to accept deeds for property interest needed for the Peach Tree Road and Woodhill Drive Stormwater Improvement Project at a cost not to receive $211. Item 8. A resolution authorizing the director and the mayor on behalf of the Airbag County Government to execute agreement with Kentucky Transportation Cabinet KYTC for delegation for operation and maintenance of traffic signals and electrical traffic control devices in the state primary road system in Fayette County at a cost not to receive $360,000 to be reimbursed by KYTC. Item 9, a resolution accepting the bid of the following entities in response to RFP number 5-2021 to provide information, technologies, consulting, and technical services, and establishing price contracts and authorizing the mayor on behalf of your beginning to enter into any additional necessary agreements with each. APEC Software Development Metaformers, DLZP Group, StepCG, Trinity Data Solutions, and IT Services, the Celerity Group, SciTech, Trace3, Suova, Scuba, Securents, Objective Results, Serious Computer Solutions, and New Harbor Security and Creative Breakthroughs. Item 10, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of your mechanic government to execute a multi-year agreement with Ion Wave Technologies Incorporated for procurement system. At a cost, nocturacy, $27,500 in fiscal year 2022. Item 11, a resolution authorizing the division of fire and emergency services to purchase cardiac monitors from ZOL, a source source provider, and authorizing the mayor on behalf of your mechanic government to execute any necessary agreement with ZOL related to the procurement at a cost, nocturacy, $180,000. Item 12, a resolution authorizing the division and directing mayor on behalf of your mechanic government to execute a master service agreement with Ellipsis Information Security LLC for the performance of a web delegation assessment for the chief information officer at a cost to see four thousand four hundred fifty dollars I'm 13 a resolution authorizing man be have you're gonna go to execute an agreement awarding class B infrastructure incentive grant to Huber real estate number one LLC for storm water quality projects at across not to see $12,000 item 14 a resolution authorizing me on behalf here we're getting government to execute an agreement awarding cost B infrastructure incentive grant to Wesley United Methodist Church of Lexington Kentucky incorporated for stormwater quality projects at the cost of accuracy twenty four thousand dollars item 15 a resolution authorizing directly on behalf here we're getting to execute an agreement or a statement of affiliation with the division of fire and emergency services rescue team in division of emergency management in accordance with KARS chapter 39 F for medium requirements for assistance program grants item 16 a resolution authorizing the division of human resources to make conditional promotional offers to the successful candidates for classified civil service and classified civil service and sworn positions directly the mayor to provide a list of the names of the successful candidates and pay grades and so it was no later than August 12 2021 and providing that this authorization shall expire on August 6th, 2021. Item 17, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Air Mechanic Government to accept a proposal for fiscal year 2022 for excess liability insurance from the end to execute any necessary contracts and documents on behalf of the Air Mechanic Government with the following insurance companies and or their respective broker. Marshall McLellan Agency, Aviation from Westchester Firewich, CHUBB, at a cost not to exceed $33,573, general auto public officials and law enforcement and professional from Safety National Casualty Corporation at a cost to exceed $448,981.55. Access liability from Safety National Casualty Corporation at a cost to exceed $145,816. Access law enforcement liability from Kinzale Insurance Company at a cost to exceed $116,528.17. Property from affiliated factory mutual FM at a cost to exceed $561,576.71. Cyber from Crum and Forster Insurance Company at a cost to exceed $54,882.43. pollution from Illinois Union Insurance Company, CHEBB, Etikos Not to Receive, $21,262, and workers compensation from Safety National Casualty Corporation, Etikos Not to Receive, $395,508, all subject to sufficient funds being appropriated, item 18. A resolution establishing Sandoval Customs Creation Incorporated as a sole source provider for the purchase of Transcam, Cobra Cam, and 360 spliced boot cam camera systems, and associated hardware for installation for the Division of Police and Authorizing the Mayor or her designee on behalf of the Urban County Government, and in an to secure agreements with standard of all custom creations incorporated related to the procurement of these goods at a cost of NOCTO at $51,604, item 19. A resolution authorizing directly on behalf of the American Academy to execute an agreement with the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet for the acceptance of federal funds, which grant funds are on the amount of $480,000 for ITS CMS, Intelligent Transportation System, congestion management system, traffic improvement project for fiscal year 2022, the acceptance of which obligates the American government for the expenditure of $120,000 as a local match and authorizing the mayor and transfer and unaccommodate funds within the grant budget, item 20. A resolution authorizing and directing me on behalf of the urban county government to accept a grant from the Cabinet of Health and Family Services with grant funds on the amount of $150,000 in federal funds for the purpose of enhancing a quick response team within the community paramedicine program as part of the Kentucky Opioid Response Effort, the acceptance of which does not obligate the urban county government for the expenditure of funds and authorizing and directing me on behalf of the urban county government to transfer and unaccommodate funds within the grant budget established for this grant, item 21. A resolution ratifying and approving the fiscal year 2022 budget of the downtown Lexington Management District. item 22 a resolution of the urban county government expressing the support item 23 a resolution amending appendix a rules and procedures of the license affair urban county county council to allow members of the public to state their council district instead of their addresses before making public comment Thank you. Thank you very much. Is there a motion to approve? Second. All right. There's a motion and a second. And when you're ready, if you'll take a roll call vote, please. Ms. LeGree. Mayor, may I point of order? I'm sorry. Can you clarify what exactly that we're voting on, please, right now? We're voting on, hang on just a second. We are voting on second reading of resolutions numbers 1 through 21 and number 23. Thank you. Number 22 will come up next. Well, and the reason I just point of order, on our screen, 22 is sitting in before us, And I know that's because she hasn't read it, but I just wanted to clarify in case the public was seeing that. Thank you so much. Thank you. The clerk will call the roll, please, for the roll call vote. Yes, ma'am. Ms. LeGree? Yes. Mr. McKern? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Maloney? Yes. Ms. Plumman? Yes. Ms. Reynolds? yes machine yes mr. Worley yes ma'am miss Baxter miss Bledsoe mr. Fred Brown yes mr. James Brown mr. Ellinger yes vice mayor Kay yes mr. Koibert and miss Lam yes ma'am thank you thank you those all pass now when you're ready if you will please give second reading to number 22 yes ma'am item 22 a resolution of the urban county council expressing the support of the urban county council for the expansion and continued permitting of the central Kentucky landfill thank you thank you and is there a motion to approve is there a second I have a I'm sorry I have a question on the floor okay uh council member baxter seconded okay thank you all right um did you have a question before the roll call vote yes ma'am okay yes ma'am okay um this this ordinate this resolution the body of this resolution has references to where is the council uh in several places and I have serious concern with it being representative of it indicating that it would include all 15 of us and I'm sorry that I do not feel like that I should be represented in the body of this ordinance. So I hope my colleagues will take into consideration if they so choose to believe this way. I don't believe that this is something that we need to get into with Scott County and I am hoping that there are other colleagues that will feel the same and I don't think that it's fair if we don't have a unanimous resolution that that the body of the resolution should indicate that it is the full council and so I would like to make a motion to amend the motion to approve if that's appropriate to make sure that the body of the resolution only depicts the council members that approve the resolution the okay the motion on the floor is to approve approve for second reading so your motion would be to amend the resolution if I understand correctly which yes ma'am and and I tried to get then before the motion was taken, but I just, you know, I wasn't able to get in. Is there a second? I second the conversation. Okay, and so my first question to Keith is, will that be a material change? I don't think amending the recitals would be a material. All right, very good. Okay, let's have discussion then on the motion to amend the resolution. If you'll log in please if you'd like to speak. Councilmember McCurran. Thank you, Mayor. And I appreciate the intent behind this, but in all the years that I've served on this council, I don't recall any time that this has ever happened, even in the no votes that we have had towards other resolutions. So I'm going to be in disagreement of this amendment. Thank you. Thank you. Councilmember Plowman. Thank you, Mayor. I just need a clarification. So what, Council Member Lamb, you are saying is to not have all the names on it, those individuals can choose if they want to go on that? Is that what you're asking? Go ahead. Speak to it, please. Thank you, Mayor. Basically, where it is outlining saying that is the council, meaning all 15 of us, that if others choose to vote against this, that we would have our names taken off of this because I don't approve this. So does that clarify? Yes, it does clarify because I also do not want to include my name. I just didn't know how that would work because I am opposed to. And this is tricky, and I might ask Keith to weigh in because when the council passes a resolution, it doesn't go with all your names on it. It's only if you do a letter. so could you help us out here a little bit generally the body speaks as the body whether it's an eight to seven vote or whether it's a 15 to zero vote that doesn't mean you can't amend that recital but it sounds like what you wanted to say is whereas council members who voted yes i guess by name would reflect in that recital and And I would agree that that's unusual, but... Is it legal? Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member, next is Council Member Plowman, then Council Member Worley, then Council Member Bledsoe. Mayor, I was finished. Oh, you were finished. Yes. Okay, Council Member Worley. Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate the council member disagrees with this. And I just think the council speaks as a body and the public record of your vote is your public dissent. I think that's our way. I've been on the losing end of votes that I disagreed with. But the council still spoke as a body. And so I think it would be appropriate for it to still say the council spoke. And the public record of a dissent is there. and then any comments that wanted to be made in a newspaper or by way of letter, I think it would be appropriate for any council member that disagreed. But the body speaks as a body, in my opinion. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Bledsoe. Thank you, Mayor. I completely agree with Council Member Worley. I've been on the losing side of a number of votes that went to Frankfort that spoke as a body, and I did not do that. And I think this sets a precedent that is not consistent. If this were a letter, I'm all in. If this were a letter, I would think that's exactly the right way to do it. But I completely disagree with setting a precedent that we're going to do that when the record shows who's for and against. I just do not think that's appropriate. Thank you. Thank you. Vice Mayor Kay. Thank you, Mayor. I'm not sure what exactly to do at 9.51 in the evening on this issue, but I've got two thoughts. The first is that anybody who follows what we're doing, if there's a majority of council that passes this and there's a significant minority of council that vote no, I don't see that it carries much weight. If I want to argue before whomever, and I wanted to argue on the side of not supporting this, reporting this, I would cite the record of council. The council was not unanimous on this. That's one thought. Second thought is this is a little bit unusual in the way that it's framed. And so at the risk. Well, I'm going to go ahead. Here we are. I would move to amend the amendment to change the wording to read a resolution of the Urban County Council expressing the support of a majority of the Urban County Council for the expansion and continued permitting of the Central Kentucky Landfill. Second. All right, thank you. That motion was seconded by Council Member Lamb. Is there any discussion of the motion? Council member Fred Brown. Does this mean any resolution that we do going forward that we can separate our names? And could it also apply to ordinances? I don't think the vice mayor's motion separates names. It just inserts the majority. Well, could that be done? Could that language be done for every resolution from here on out? Keith, what do you say? I think you're, we're on. Well, let's hear from our attorney. Let me first say that that is the legal reality of any resolution you pass. It passed by a majority of the council. I think it is, based on how you're discussing it, a dangerous precedent to start trying to amend all of your ordinances and resolutions to try to make a point that you voted one way or the other. Yeah, because I've got a few ordinances that I'd like to challenge. So I would advise against it, but that doesn't mean that it's illegal to do that. Okay, thank you very much. So you heard our attorney advises against it. So any other comments? Let's take a vote then. All those in favor of the amendment? Please say aye. Aye. Oh, I'm sorry. Anyone opposed? Aye. Okay. That motion fails. I'm so sorry. Now we're back to more. Okay. Now we are back to Council Member Lamb's motion. Could you restate your motion, please? I'll tell you what, and I will withdraw my motion, but I also will just say that I am adamantly opposed to this resolution. And I'll withdraw it because of the conversation that we've had tonight about my motion. Okay. And I get it. Does the seconder withdraw? Would you second? Yes, thank you. All right. The seconder withdraws. Now, we're back to the second reading of Resolution 22. And, Council Member Plumman, did you want to make a comment before we take the roll call vote? Okay. All right. Madam Clerk, will you please take a roll call vote? Ms. LeGree? No. Mr. McCurn? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Maloney yes Miss Plowman no Miss Reynolds yes machine yes Mr. Worley yes ma'am Miss Baxter yes ma'am Miss Bledsoe Ma'am. Mr. Fred Brown. Yeah. Mr. James Brown. I vote yes. Mr. James Brown. Yes. Thank you. Mr. Ellinger. Yes, ma'am. Vice Mayor Kay. No. Mr. Koiber. Yes. Thank you. And Ms. Lamb. Absolutely no. All right. Thank you very much. That motion passes 11 to 4. Now, we are ready for a first reading of resolutions. When you are ready. And we'll pause before 29 to have the public hearing. Item 24. A resolution authorizing directly to the mayor on behalf of your county government to accept a grant from the licensed county health department in which grant funds are in the amount of 412,000 federal funds and 144,000 commonwealth of Kentucky funds for the home network part also known as Kentucky Health Access Nurturing Development Services hands at the Family Care Center for fiscal year 2020 2022 the acceptance of which does not obligate the urban kind of government for the expenditure funds and authorizing the mayor to transfer to other funds within the grant budget item 25 a resolution authorizing directly man behind here in the county government to execute an agreement with the Commonwealth of Kentucky's Department of Community-based Services for certificate certification of the Family Care Center as a vendor with the state-funded child care assistance program at no cost to the urban county government item 26 a resolution establishing thermal equipment as a sole source provider for the purchase and service of HVAC equipment item 27 a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf here being going to come to execute a memorandum of agreement with the Lexington Art League regarding the cooperation the coordination production and financial arrangement of the Woodland Art Fair Fair item 28 a resolution authorizing the man be happy to execute an agreement awarding class B infrastructure incentive grant to the license center corporation for stormwater quality projects at a cost up to $234,400. Thank you. Thank you. Now, at this time, we have a public hearing, which I'll go ahead and declare open and ask if there's anyone here to speak regarding number 29. No? All right. I'll declare the public hearing closed. Thank you very much. item 29 a resolution approving and adopting substantial amendments to the 2019 annual action plan decreasing funds from the HR HR H ISE rent assistance program 191,803 dollars and 33 cents in the bluegrass community action partnership elder nutrition program sixty thousand dollars in reallocating those funds to the Lexington housing authority two hundred fifty one thousand eight hundred three dollars and 33 cents and authorizing the marriage to transfer any good friends within the grant budget item 30 a resolution authorizing directly may have here we're going to come to execute change order number one to the agreement with LM asphalt partners DBA ATS construction for the town branch trail face six increasing the contract price by the sum of fifty four thousand three hundred eleven dollars and twenty nine cents and raising the total contract price from three million eight hundred fifty four thousand four hundred eighty six dollars ninety six cents to three million nine hundred eight thousand seven hundred ninety eight dollars and twenty five cents item thirty one a resolution authorizing director of man behavior we're going to go to sub recipient agreement with Community Action Council CAC in order to allocate three million dollars of federal fund grant funds under the American Rescue Plan Act of twenty twenty one for the operation expansion of the housing stabilization program and authorizing to execute any any other necessary agreements or amendments with CAC related to the use of these funds item 32 a resolution authorizing mayor on behalf of your mckinney government to execute the one Kentucky opioid settlement memorandum of understanding with the Kentucky Attorney General for allocation and distribution of funds arising for the bankruptcy proceedings and settlement of the multi-district opioid litigation item 33 a resolution accepting a bid of great plans communication LLC in accordance with the provision of ordinance number 69 20 2016 creating and offering a sale for sale a franchise for the operation of non-exclusive telecommunications or related non cable system in Fayette County and authorizing the mayor on behalf of your beginning to execute a franchise agreement with Great Plains communication LLC incorporating the terms and conditions conditions of ordinance number 69 2016 item 34 a resolution accepting the bids of truckers lighthouse on duty depot incorporated an L&W emergency equipment establishing price contracts for partitions and cargo boxes for the division of police item 35 a resolution accepting the bid of G&J Pepsi Cola Bottlers Incorporated, establishing a price contract for beverage products for the Division of Parks and Recreation, Item 36. A resolution is in a bid of Open Fiber Kentucky Company LLC in accordance with the provisions of Ordinance No. 69-2016, including an offering for sale a franchise for the operation of non-exclusive telecommunications for related non-cable systems in Fayette County. And authorizing the mayor on behalf of the Urban County Academy to execute a franchise agreement with Open Fiber Kentucky Company LLC, incorporating the terms and conditions of Ordinance No. 69-2016, Item 37. I was a resolution accepting a bit of payment technology incorporated establishing a press contract for asphalt rejuvenation for the Department of Environmental Quality and Public Works and 38 a resolution accepting the bid of Lacroix incorporated in the amount of 1 million two hundred forty two thousand nine hundred three dollars in the middle of Northland Arlington neighborhood improvement project six B one and six B two for the division of water quality and authorize the mayor on behalf of the urban kind of government executed agreement like incorporated related to the bid item 39 a resolution accepting a bit of premier staffing source source incorporated establishing a press contract for temporary labor for the division parks and recreation item 40. A resolution ratified the probation and classified civil service appointments of Teresa donor administrative specialist grade 513 and 18.896 hourly the revenue effective July 5 2021 Daniel Lane staff assistant senior grade 510 and 16.075 hourly in the dividend revenue effective July 5 2021 Timothy Higgins equipment operators senior grade 512 and 18.162 hourly in the division water quality effective July 12 2021 Charles Jennet a maintenance mechanic great 515 and 19.1 73 hourly in the divina water quality effective July 12 2021 Tommy Cotter equipment operator graphics and 15.602 hourly in the divina water quality effective July 12 2021 Jennifer Carey director environmental services 531E 4747.28 biweekly in the environmental services affected July 19, 2021 and ratifying the permanent classified civil service appointments of Mark Chennault equipment operator senior grade 512N 16.548 hourly in the derivative of streets and rows affected June 14, 2021, Donna McSparks equipment operator senior grade 512N 16.602 hourly in the division of streets and rows affected June 14, 2021, Sherry Gillum equipment operator senior grade 512N 17.238 hourly in the division of streets and rows affected June 14, 2021 Lisa Farmer, Director of Community Corrections, Grade 524E 4284.64, biweekly in the Division of Community Corrections, effective May 23, 2021. Donna Howard, custodial worker, Grade 505N 12.193, hourly in the Division of Facilities and Fleet Management, effective June 14, 2021, and ratifying the probation and sworn requirements of David Waiters, Waters Fire Captain, Grade 316N, 26.753, hourly in the Division of Fire and Emergency Services, effective June 12, 2021, Joshua Elam fire lieutenant grade 315 and 20 point 20.902 hourly individual fire and emergency services affected June 12 2021 item 41 a resolution authorizing the division of human resources to make a conditional offer to the following probation and classified civil service appointments and gillis cleric assistant senior grade 507 and 13.356 hourly individual encountering effective july 6 2021 john was silko safety specialist grade 518 and 24.785 hourly the division of streets and roads affected July 6 2021 Jesse Bradford trades worker senior grade 511 and 17 wait 614 hourly and the district in noise affected July 12 20 21 Aaron Williams equipment operators senior great fact 11 20 dollars hourly hourly in the division waste management effective upon passage of counsel James Bell Jamel Bell resource recover operator great by 13 and 17.4 33 hourly in the division waste management affected July 19 2021 Cesar Lynch security officer great 507 and 30.4 1 1 0 hourly in the Department of Public Safety effective July 6 2021 authorizing the division of human resources to make a conditional offer to the following probation community corrections officer appointments Zachary Dixon Valeria Carter Justin Douglas Clifton Manica Leandro Vera and John Watt Miles all community correction officer recruit grade 109 and 15.384 hourly in the division community questions effective on Palm Passage of Council and offers an individual human resources to make a conditional offer to the following unclassified civil service appointments Shauna Redding treatment plan operator apprentice grade 519 and 15.977 hourly in the division water quality effective July 6th 2021 Pickle Cowan, Public Works Apprentice, Grade 504, and 13.738, hourly in the Division of Waste Management, effective June 7, 2021. Albert Whitney, Public Works Apprentice, Grade 504, and 13.500, hourly in the Division of Waste Management, effective June 7, 2021. Item 42. A resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of your mechanic to execute a memorandum of understanding with healing community study Kentucky to expand medication for opioid use disorder for the Division of Community Corrections at a cost not to exceed $1,500 in fiscal year 2022. Item 43, a resolution author of the mayor on behalf of your mechanic government to execute a lease agreement with the United Way of the Bluegrass for approximately 201 square feet of the Charles Yang Center in the consideration of anticipated revenue in the amount of $2,074.32. Item 44, a resolution author of the mayor on behalf of your mechanic government to execute change order number one to the agreement with GRW Engineers Incorporated for investigation and design services for the West Hickman Wastewater Treatment Plant Solids Processing Building Improvement Project, Increasing the contract price by the sum of $70,800 from $243,400 to $314,200, item 45. A resolution authorizing and directing man behalf here in McGonagall to execute an addendum to the health services agreement with the Marathon Health LLC for behavioral health services offered at the Samuel Brown Health Center effective July 1, 2021, item 46. A resolution authorizing and directing man behalf here in McGonagall to execute an agreement with the University of Kentucky, Albert B Chandler Medical Center for the use of the emergency room as a clinical practice area for Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner Program in fiscal year 2021 at a cost to exceed $3,000, item 47. A resolution authorizing directly on behalf of your mechanic to execute and submit a grant application to the US Department of Justice Howard Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistant Grant Program. And to provide any additional information request in the connections with grant application with grant funds on the amount of $153,791 in federal funds for field score 2022 for the Division of Police, item 48. A resolution authorizing directly on behalf of your mechanic to accept an award of $147,680 in federal funds from the Kentucky Cabinet for Health and Family Services, Department of Community-Based Services, in order to support child care expenses in the extended school program at the Division of Parks and Recreation, the extent of which does not obligate the urban county government for the expenditure funds in authorizing the mayor to transfer an undercurrent within the grant budget, item 49. A resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of urban county government to execute and submit a grant application to the Kentucky State Police Vehicle Enforcement Division to provide any additional information and request in a connection with this grant application, and to accept this grant if the application is approved, which grants on the amount of $102,000 in federal funds for the continued operation of the motor carrier safety assistance program the MCSAP for fiscal year 2020 the acceptance which obligates urban county government for the expenditure of $18,344 as a local match which will be provided from the documentation of existing division police staff salaries and authorizing the marriage transfer and a couple friends within the grant budget and 50 a resolution requesting that the mayor negotiate an agreement with Kentucky utilities company related to the clear cutting or removing trees in certain areas of Lexington County item 51 a resolution of the urban County Council adopting a diversity equity and inclusion statement in order to create a more inclusive and equitable work environment, increase government accessibility, and improve the ability to serve all residents. And item 52, a resolution authorizing the indirect name on behalf of the urban county government to execute an agreement with believing and forever incorporated for $350 for the office of the urban county council at a cost not to see this sum stated. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any walk-ons? Are there any walk-ons to the resolutions? Thank you, Mayor, if I may. Yes, please. I move to place on the docket a resolution ratifying the appointments of Casey Allen Bryant as Commissioner of Social Services and Christopher Ford as Commissioner of General Services. So move. Thank you. Council Member James Brown seconds. Is there any discussion? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? Thank you for that. Any other walk ons? All right. Are there any suspensions to give second reading? Mayor, do you want to give that in first reading? Oh, yes, I do. Thank you. It's getting a little late. Sorry about that. Would you please give first reading to that resolution? Yes, ma'am. Item 53, a resolution approving the unclassified civil service appointments of Casey Allen Bryant, Commission of Social Services, Grade 536E, 5229.20, biweekly in the Department of Social Services, effective July 5, 2021. And Christopher Ford, Commissioner of General Services, Grade 536E, 5229.20, biweekly in the Department of General Services, effective July 5, 2021. Thank you. Thank you very much. Now, are there motions to suspend the rules and give second readings? Council Member James Brown. Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to make a motion to suspend the rules and give second reading to number 41. These are conditional offers of employment. So moved. Second. Thank you. Council Member McCurn seconded. Are there any questions? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? All right, that motion passes. Mayor, I have another one. Okay, go right ahead. I'd like to make a motion to suspend the rules and give second reading to number 43. It's a lease agreement. with the United Way. So moved. Second. Okay, Councilmember Plowman seconds. Any questions? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? That motion passes. Okay, Vice Mayor Kay. Thank you, Mayor. I move to suspend the rules and give second reading to item 53 to ratify the appointments of the two new commissioners. So moved. Thank you. councilmember Plumman seconds are there any questions all those in favor please say aye anyone opposed councilmember Fred Brown is a no all right that passes councilmember lamb Thank You mayor on behalf of the administration I would like to ask for suspension of number 32 it's the one Kentucky opioid settlement memorandum of understanding. Thank you. Is there a second? Council Member Maloney. All right. Are there any questions? All those in favor, please say aye. Anyone opposed? All right. That motion passes. Are there any other motions to suspend the rules? All right. It looks like we have 32, 41, 43, and 53. Is that correct? All right. If you'll please go ahead and give those second reading. Yes, ma'am. Item 32, a resolution authorizing the mayor on behalf of the American government to execute the one Kentucky Opioid Settlement Memorandum of Understanding with the Kentucky Attorney General for allocation and distribution of funds arising from bankruptcy proceedings and settlement of the multi-district opioid litigation. Item 41. a resolution authorizing the division of human resources to make a conditional offer to the following probation and classified civil service appointments and Gillis clerical assistance in your grade 507 and 13.356 hourly in the division of accounting affected July 6th 2021 John was silko safety specialist grade 518 and 24.785 hourly in the division streets and roads affected July 6th 2021 Jesse Bradford trades worker senior grade 511 and 17.614 hourly in the division streets and roads affected July 12th 2021 Aaron Williams equipment operators in your group like 12 and $20 hour in the division waste management effective upon upon passative counsel jamal bell resource recovery operator grade 513 n 17.433 hourly in the dividend waste management affected july 19 2021 says our lynch security officer grade 507 n 13.414 410 hourly in the dividend of in the department of public safety affected july 6 2021 and authorizing the division of human races to make a conditional offer to the following probation or community correction officer appointments zachary dixon valeria carter justin douglas clifton manica leandra vera and john miles all community correction officer recruit grade 109 and 15.384 hourly in the division community corrections effective upon passage of counsel an authorizing division of human resources to make a conditional offer to the following unclassified civil service appointments shauna reading treatment plant operator apprentice grade 509 and 15.977 hourly in the division of water quality effective july 6 2021 pickle account one public works printer grade 504 and 13.738 hourly in the division of waste management effective june 7 2021 albert whitney public work apprentice with 504 and 13.500 hourly in the division waste management effective June 7th 2021 item 43 a resolution authorizing the man behind here beginning to execute a lease agreement the United Way of the bluegrass for approximately 201 square feet of the Charles Young Center in consideration of anticipated revenue in the amount of two thousand seventy four dollars and thirty two cents an item 53 a resolution approving the unclassified civil service appointments of Casey Allen Bryant Commission of Social Services grade 536 e 5229.20 bi-weekly in the Department of Social Services and effective July 5 2021 and Christopher Ford Commissioner of General Services grade 536 e 5229.20 bi-weekly in the Department of General Services effective July 5 2021 thank you thank you is there a motion to approve Councilmember Plowman and then Vice Mayor Kay seconds. All right, thank you. When you're ready, if you'll take a roll call vote. Ms. LeGreen? Yes. Mr. McCurran? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Maloney? Yes, ma'am. Ms. Plowman? Yes. Ms. Reynolds? Yes. Ms. Sheehan? Yes. Mr. Worley? Yes, ma'am. Ms. Baxter? Yes, ma'am. Ms. Bledsoe? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Fred Brown? Yes. Mr. James Brown? Yes. Mr. Ellinger? Yes, ma'am. Vice Mayor Kay? Yes. Mr. Koiber? Yes, ma'am. And Ms. Lam? Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Thank you very much. Those all pass. Could I have a motion to approve communications from the mayor? So moved. Thank you. Council Member Kloiber second. Council Member Reynolds. Are there any questions? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Is anyone opposed? That motion passes. Next are communications for your information only. There is no fire and no police discipline, and so now it's time for council announcements. Does anyone have an announcement? If you'll log in, please. Council Member Kloiber. Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to once again remind everyone that this Saturday, between 2 and 5 o'clock, is everybody's favorite Family Fun Field Day, Cinco de Mayo, over at the Whitaker YMCA. So come on down. We're going to have food trucks, inflatables, and just a generally good time. So I hope to see all of you there for this community event at the Uruguay Cinco de Mayo. All right. Thank you very much. Are there any other council announcements? We have had our public comment, so I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. Thank you. Thank you. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? We are adjourned. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.