Fantastic. And one of the initiatives that started a little while back was trying to give one more time. And so I know that that's something that I gave regularly for the last number of years. But, you know, it's one of those things that you do, and then you think, I need to go do that. So making that commitment to give one more time a year than you have been giving really doesn't make a big difference. Absolutely. If everybody gave one more time a year, we would have no blood shortages. And we tell people all the time, it's, you know, a lot of times you may only think of us at the holidays or at, you know, Memorial Day or when we're giving away a free car, things like that. But if you were just to make one more appointment on your calendar, give twice a year instead of once a year, or three times a year instead of twice a year, it really would prevent blood shortages during all of those peak seasons. You're exactly right. And we're so excited to partner with the Lexington Fire Department. What does that mean for you all? Oh, it's so great for us. You know, the fire department is obviously saving local lives as well. We kind of feel like our missions really align. And if they're treating people and taking people to the hospitals, those people are going to get blood from Kentucky Blood Center donors. And so it really makes sense for, you know, two groups of lifesavers to get together and try to, you know, hit this goal that they have and celebrate a wonderful organization. And it really, you know, it's a momentous anniversary they're having. Oh, it totally is. And 150, I'm contributing today towards that goal. So I hope you'll do the same. You know, one of the things we talk about is how do we get other people involved? So during COVID, people, I think, have been a little bit nervous about, is it safe to donate? What are the rules about donating? Can I be vaccinated? What if I'm not? Can you talk a little bit about, like, what does that mean today to donate? Who can? Absolutely. We want people who are healthy and well to come and donate. And so we say that's always whether there was COVID or not, you need to feel good on the day that you donate. You know, we're wearing masks in the donor centers. We're not because we're doing this interview and we want you to hear us. But we're wearing masks in our donor centers to keep people safe, socially distancing our beds. Our mobile crews are sanitizing and keeping people safe when they come out. You don't have to be vaccinated to donate blood, but certainly you can be. And you can actually get vaccinated and come donate the same day. There's no deferral period between those two things. So it's safe to donate. Absolutely, we encourage people. We've had less mobiles during COVID because places of business have been remote. And so if we normally would go down to the Central Bank building, if all those offices are empty, there's no point in us going there. And so some of those things have started to come back. Now we're starting to see some things because of the variant start to close down again. So it is important if you can give to give. Our donor centers are a wonderful place. We're in Beaumont and over on two different sides of town. Easy and safe to come donate. You're right. We're actually in the middle of the 10th district right here in Beaumont Center Drive. but there are several others around. And if you're a business and you want to be involved or have your team donate, who would they contact to do that? They can visit our website, www.kybloodcenter.org, or call 800-775-225-22. Ask for a recruiter in your area. We can set something up with you. If your business isn't large enough to host a drive, what we'll do is oftentimes maybe encourage you to partner with other businesses in your area. So if three or four businesses are all together and all their employees want to donate, we can bring a blood mobile and park in a central location. So there's lots of ways we can be creative and help, or we can host you in center. We do a lot of business drives in center, especially during COVID. Lexmark employees were coming in. So lots of different folks were kind of just encouraging their people who are working remotely to head to our donor centers. That's a great idea. You know, it's so easy. Now the app really does help. I mean, you can do that quick like online, like I did this morning, walk right in, they scan it, and you really save a lot of time doing it. It doesn't take very long to donate. No, exactly. The quick pass is something you can do on the day, the actual date. So after midnight on the day, you're going to donate. You fill out all those health history questions, and that takes about 15 minutes to do it in a center. So that saves you 15 minutes of time in our donor center. So it's a great thing to do. And look, and she's already done donating. I'm already done. So in the few moments that we've been here talking, I was able to save three lives. And I really think it's a valuable thing. I mean, our bodies are such an amazing thing. And being able to do this really just takes personal sacrifice and making the time to do it and giving the life to somebody else who needs it, especially those here in Lexington. really makes a big difference. So I hope you will really consider joining and donating towards the 150 goal. And it's such an honor and privilege to be here. I love serving on the Kentucky Blood Center board. And you can donate and sign up to make sure your donation goes towards the Lexington Fire Department's anniversary drive. Thanks for watching Talk of the Tenth, and we'll see you soon. I'm going to pass this one. It's the same, different one. Okay. Welcome, everyone, this afternoon. I hope everyone is having a good week. We're now going to call this meeting to order again. We're going to move over to the approval of minutes for the commission members. There were revised minutes that was emailed over to us. We would like to have those approval of the August 26, 2021 minutes. So moved. We got a second. I'm assuming a motion by Mr. DeMovilland. Do we have a second to that motion? Second by Ms. Boxdale. Any further discussion? Okay. Everyone please vote via Granicus for the approval of the minutes. Thank you. Next up, postponements and withdrawals. Afternoon, Mr. Chairman, members of the commission. I'm Bruce Simpson. I'm here in terms of matter A on the first page of Bryant Road property. We had hoped to be able to present this today. Unfortunately, I had a couple of family emergencies this month that caused me to miss a couple of weeks, and I wasn't able to get back with the staff to try to work out a final resolution. So I'd ask for one final postponement to next month, and we'll be ready to go. Thank you, Mr. Simpson. And that's page 2-1A, ladder LLC? You got a? Correct. Okay. Thank you, sir. Does any commission members have any questions? Not seeing any. The floor is open for a motion. Are we doing a one-month postponement? That's it. Yes, please. Okay. What's that date? That should be the October 14th meeting. October the 14th? The 28th. October 28th, yes. Sorry about that. Mr. Penn? Mr. Chair, I move for postponement of PLN MAR 1823 until the October 28th hearing. Second. We have a motion and a second. Mr. DeMovlin beat you to the punch, Ms. Meyer. Any further discussion to that motion? Okay, all in favor, please vote via Granicus. Thank you, Mr. Simpson. Thank you. Do we have any other postponements or withdrawals? Mr. Chairman, members of the Commission, Mark McCain with Vision Engineering. I'd like to bring your attention to item 2 on page 3, Cervantes and Associates. Unfortunately, we're still trying to work things out with this zone change, and we'd like to postpone until the November meeting. Okay, so we postpone it to the November meeting? Yes, sir. Okay, hold on one second. Ms. Tracy Wade, thanks. so our November meeting if you remember from last month was combined so that's a November 11th date so our subdivision and zoning items will be on the same day thank you okay so you okay with the November 11th date yes sir okay all right okay the floor is open from the Commission members Mr. Chair, I move for a postponement of PLN MAR 21-8 Cervantes to November 11th. Thank you. We have a motion and a second by Mr. Bill. Any further discussion to that motion? Okay, please excuse me. Robin. Yeah, I think and I'm just trying to check if I remember correctly. We had asked them to come back to the Zoning Committee, is that correct as well? Mr. Bailey said that's correct. So would you plan to attend in October or November? November. November. So they would attend November. So they would attend the November Zoning Committee. Thank you. Okay. All right. We have a motion and a second. vote via granicus all right motion passes thank you thank you do we have any other postponements or withdrawals not seeing any uh so it's pal we're on page four selection home ownership before we get started i just want the commission to understand that i think both of our items today are recommended for approval and qualify as abbreviated hearings if there's no one in the audience who wants to speak to them so i see i see someone has joined us from the public are you here to speak on one of these applications in opposition sir not you behind them no okay so it looks like both can be taken in an abbreviated fashion and that's more for mr bailey help than anything. Thank you very much ladies and gentlemen. This is on page four of your agenda. This is PLN MAR 21-00010 Lexington Home Ownership. I will be abbreviated, I promise, on these applications here today. This is an application for rezoning for the properties located at 431 and 433 East 3rd Street as well as 307 311 and 315 race street the applicant is seeking to rezone the property from a neighborhood business b1 zone to a planned neighborhood residential r3 zone to construct six attached or townhouse units at this location uh if we are just getting an idea of the area that we're talking about we are off of east third street right before we get over to the intersection with Midland and Winchester Road, Ray Street running north east southwest. Just jumping into the property. The primary zoning in this area is the Planned Neighborhood Residential Zone or the R3 Zone with a fair amount of B1 zoning in this location. Much of the B1 zoning is historical in nature and located along some of our corner pieces along this collector street. Jumping into the aerial photography of the site we get an idea of the land use that has developed over time across the street along east third we have a little bit more of the businesses that have developed over the past 50 60 years as well as some of our newer businesses on this corner specifically it is all currently vacant at one point in time there was a liquor store that was facing east third street as well as a plumber shirt shop that was facing race street uh here we get a view into the site itself just looking in off of east third on this leftmost picture looking down east third into town looking into the site again and then across the street at the current market that is located uh at that corner across from the proposed development site The applicant is seeking to develop this under the enhanced neighborhood place type. This is really focused on neighborhoods that are currently constructed. And in this aspect, it would be adding to a low density residential development type. In this case, they are seeking to do those townhouses or attach single family dwelling units. While in the past, that was seen as something that was a little bit more high density. but within this comprehensive plan it is specifically called out as a lower density housing option as it is a single family dwelling unit this gets into just a bit more of the considerations that every applicant should be reviewing when looking at the low density residential how low density residential development type and and some of the things that the comprehensive plan really calls for which is focused on those pedestrian facilities adding housing options other similar kind of aspects in this location we do have the legacy trail that goes across the front of the property it's the on-street facility in which you see the wonderfully painted green lines and striping for our bicycle infrastructure in town and they are seeking to go with the R3 or the planned neighborhood residential zone which is a recommended place type within this development type and place type with review of any new applications that come into the planning staff for the planning commission with the review there are often other plans that have been adopted by the planning commission in the past in this case the east end small area plan came into effect with this east end small area plan it was very focused on providing housing options as well as affordable housing options in this case the applicant is focused on both of those uh elements within this plan also all because of the location of this property along the legacy trail and with the upgraded pedestrian facilities that are associated with the construction of the trail the applicant is meeting a lot of the pedestrian oriented elements and goals of this small area plan within staff's review we found that the applicant was in agreement with the 2018 comprehensive plan as it established a residential development which was currently on that was currently going to take space of a underutilized parcel or vacant parcel within the urban service boundary and expand housing choices within the neighborhood while there are some areas of townhouse development and apartment development in this area it is primarily single-family detached this provides an extra option for housing opportunity in the area the proposed rezoning will and the development will provide increased density we're looking at approximately 18 dwelling units per net acre on this site which is an increase for the overall area the additional new trees will also provide a tree canopy at a higher rate while also reducing some of the heat island effects that we are seeing with some of our impervious surfaces in the area the proposed project will allow for easy access to the pedestrian facilities and bike facilities that are along the frontage of this site while also connecting the legacy trail or the potential residents of this development to the legacy trail and the town branch trail as they come together less than a quarter of a mile away there are um development will also provide uh safe and desirable affordable housing in this area that will help accommodate housing for low and moderate income individuals the justification the corollary development plan also meet the development criteria for the enhanced neighborhood and the low density residential development type and then also it does meet goal two and goal three of the small area plan as i discussed previously with all zone changes this is dependent on the approval and the signing of the major development plan PLN MJDP 21-00040 Wilgus Lofts or race on third as this applicant is calling it if you have any questions on the zone change I'd be happy to answer them and then Mr. Martin will come on up and give you a presentation on the development plan any questions for Hal? Thank you. Thank you. Mark. Mr. Chairman, members of the commission, the development plan that you see before you that is associated with this zone change is, as Hal explained, here situated on the corner with third and race they are proposing the townhouses again with their frontage along the right of way this plan does completely comply with the r1t standards in the r3 zone there's private open space being provided and you can see again with the centralized parking there's nine spaces they're required six so they've got their centralized parking at that location off of Ray Street, which of course will reduce prevent conflicts with 3rd Street. It is a small site, as Al mentioned. It's a net acreage. It's only .3 acres. The townhouses will be 30 feet in height, two stories. These are similar. These are all the similar models laid out in this. This one is slightly larger. They're taking advantage of that large area of the side yard. They changed planned slightly to increase the square footage on that particular townhouse. There's a total of 4,250 square feet in the footprint. And of course the FAR is larger in that they do have a second story with the additional living space there. And you can again see the setback that jogs down like that. And again that is set up to meet the requirements of the zone that they are in. The plan has very few conditions as you can see on your agenda and of course number nine is discuss place builder criteria which you have done so that that can be removed from your conditions. Number eight is verify the area the right-of-way. That's a small item we're pretty confident that this area is city right-of-way now because there's a traffic control device and it's supporting electronics and all that in that area. It, of course, the right-of-way, this area is platted. It's a very old area and there's an old plat and those old plats, of course, don't reflect particularly the additional right-of-way along Third Street. But again, that's just a very small item that staff is confident can be verified. And with that, again, your subdivision committee did recommend approval. Staff will be happy to answering questions you might have any questions for Mr. Martin not seeing any thank you Hal you back up Mr. Chair my my effort to be brief I didn't miss out on saying that we do have one letter of support from the neighborhood association I've passed that around in both of the cases today we've had significant support from our neighborhood associations and involvement during both of these processes. Thank you sir. Okay applicant. Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen Brandon Gross on behalf of the applicant. We're here to answer any questions. I have Tony Barrett with me. We're in agreement with the staff's recommendation and we're here to answer any questions you may have. Thank you, Mr. Gross. Not seeing any hands raised. Thank you. Thank you. We don't have any citizens out there who would like to speak on behalf of this particular agenda item. So we're bringing this back to the Planning Commission for a motion. We have two motions, one for the zone change and one for the development plan. Mr. Chair, I move for approval of PLN MAR2110 Lexington Home Ownership for the zone change as proposed by staff and subject to the eight conditions that we're resolving number nine. Okay, thank you. And not, you meant approved by staff, not opposed by staff? I mean approved, yes, as proposed by staff. Proposed, okay. The mask is getting me too. I get it. All right. You want to say anything, Mr. Penn? You want two motions? We have to do two motions, yes. So the conditions would be on the second. Okay, so we have a motion for the zone change and a second by Mr. Bell. Any further discussion to that motion? okay please vote via granicus thank you motion passes okay all right all right you ready for a second motion yes i am okay i move to approve pln PEM JDP 21-40. Will Gislotts race on third as recommended by staff and subject to the eight conditions now that nine has been resolved. Thank you. We have a motion by Ms. Meyer and a seconded by Ms. Barxtell. Any further discussion to that motion? Not seeing any. Please vote via Granicus. Okay. motion passes thank you so that should should put us on page five how walker properties of central kentucky yes sir and i'm going to start off by handing out a letter of support from the neighborhood association for this application as well This is PLN MAR 21-00011 Walker Property LLC. This is a proposed rezoning for the properties located at 720 through 740 and 737 National Avenue. The applicant is seeking to rezone their property from the wholesale and warehousing business zone or B4 zone to a restricted light industrial zone to and essentially to shift the location of some of the brewing operations that is occurring on the property located at 737 national avenue to a standalone area of brewing so within our current zoning ordinance the b4 zone and allows for the use in an adaptive reuse project of a brew pub. A brew pub is defined within the zoning ordinance but must include the preparation and serving of food. In this case the applicant is seeking to move the brewing operations across the street into a different building. It would be the loan use of that building and as such that moves it into a micro brewery level. The micro brewery level allows for greater amounts of canning to occur on stabilized equipment while also allowing it to occur on a site that does not produce the food the applicant has worked with the neighborhood association at great length throughout this process and has that is reflected in some of the requested conditional zoning restrictions on this property and i will go through those just here in a second one aspect of this is the applicant has put this within the industrial and production center place type and the industrial production non-residential development type well this is the appropriate place type and development type for this site as they are seeking in industrial zoning the staff was concerned with the fact that this is a more neighborhood oriented industrial zone and the fact that it is an adaptive reuse project that adaptive reuse project allows for the incorporation of a fair amount of neighborhood business type uses and it was that purpose that staff asked the applicant to include some of those aspects within their application as such the applicant did pull some of the development criteria from the second tier urban medium density non-residential or mixed-use development type within their letter of justification just to get an idea of the location of the site we are located not too far from the application that we just discussed along national avenue we have winchester road coming up this way the railroad cutting cutting across the top of the site and then walton avenue cutting down this way there are several different types of zoning within this area along the rail line and then north of winchester road we're seeing primarily light industrial zoning. That light industrial is also carried over on the western side or on this picture the leftmost side of Walton Avenue. In 1969 there were a fair amount of changes that occurred to this area including the down zoning of this B4 block between the rail line here and the residential neighborhood located to the south. This B4 block was meant to have a buffering transition between what was occurring and the most kind of intense uses that were being produced on uh Winchester Avenue but it also still included a fair amount of light industrial uses until relatively recent uh many of those light industrial uses were grandfathered in non-conformities uh Epping's bottling company in our current zoning ordinance is considered a light industrial use it It was in operation up until around the 1950s and then transitioned to a few other uses. This site specifically was utilized as a milling and lumber yard. It would not be allowed to occur currently in the B4 zone. However, it would have been more like an I-1. Looking at the land use, just that we can look at with the aerial, you can see that transition from the more intense industrial uses down into the older style industrial like landscape, type landscape, and what is now more of a warehousing type use into the residential uses here. You can also see the area of rezoning in yellow. That does include the vast majority of the adaptive reuse project for this area and is being heavily utilized as that adaptive reuse type development. So looking at those closer to B1 uses with some I1 or B4 uses, excuse me. Here we get a look into the site. This is down National Avenue with a look at the brew pub or Mirror Twin Brewing. This is a specific shot of the building that the applicant is seeking to go into for their brewing operations. It's at the rear of the property of 720 to 740. And we get kind of an idea of what's around it with these two photos on the right-hand side, these bottom two here, a little bit more of the warehousing type look to it all in these back areas. Whereas on the front, which is facing National Avenue, little bit more of that B1 type feel. So with retail operations as well as some gym amenities, a few other things up front. Here we are looking out into the parking lot that is associated or next to the Mirror Twin Brewing. That is proposed to be built upon. There are a few different buildings that are being proposed that Mr. Martin will go over with his review of the development plan. When reviewing this they did propose the industry and production center place type with the industrial and production center non-residential development type which is really focused on something that is somewhat different from what we are seeing here today. While the brewing operations will increase the ability of the intensity of use on the site what the applicant is also proposing is a downgrading of the site from what it is currently being allowed to be used as. And they are looking at that I-1 zone. What we were talking about with a downgrading of the site is actually the long list of conditional zoning restrictions that has been applied on this site. With the first 13 on this page, you can see that was presented to the zoning committee. This was an initial ask with the applicant and the neighborhood working. And then 14 through 21 after the zoning committee, the neighborhood and the applicant continued to work through some concerns about the uses and the location at this site. What you are seeing here is a blend of both I-1 uses and B-4 uses. What the applicant has essentially done is went from an unrestricted B-4 use or B-4 zone to a restricted I-1 zone that both restricts those uses from the zone lesser, the wholesale and warehousing business zone, which is incorporated into the light industrial zone, as well as some of the more nuisance-based I1 uses or light industrial uses. This is a fairly comprehensive list. All too often, staff is a little concerned when we get to some of these long type lists. However, the applicant has included, by being an adaptive reuse project, a whole nother set of potential uses that can be on site. It is important to incorporate those potential uses from the adaptive reuse project, plus those uses that the neighborhood is seeking to promote, shops of specialty trade being one of them, cabinetry, things like that, that they would really like to keep in their neighborhood, as well as the incorporation of a microbrewery at this location. In addition to those conditional zoning restriction uses that the neighborhood and the applicant were concerned about, staff is also recommending one other use restriction and then two buffering restrictions. The one other use restriction is the self-storage warehousing. Throughout this applicant's justification letter there was a fair amount of conversation about how this would promote the employment opportunities within our area. Self-storage warehousing, we have done a significant amount of research and review on this and it is not a high employment factor, nor is it a good employment factor for those who are working there. So staff would recommend the restriction of self-storage warehousing. Staff is also recommending the inclusion of buffering uh buffering restrictions on site this would include all lighting within 40 feet of the residential zoning shall be a maximum height of 12 feet and directed downward and then also there shall be no outdoor amplified speakers for the property located at 720 through 740 National Avenue these are specifically meant to protect that neighborhood to the back from potential uh air i'm sorry sound and light issues that might be impacting them with all these conditional zoning restrictions and per the justification letter of the applicant staff is recommending approval for several different aspects based off of their uh compliance and agreement with the comprehensive plan i will point out we do have revised findings uh you should have that on granicus and possibly printed out in front of you currently with the that printed out document if should you make a recommendation for approval for this we staff would ask that you reference those revised findings within any motion so the applicant staff founds that this is in agreement with the comprehensive plan as the applicant is showing that the proposed rezoning will allow for National Avenue to continue to grow and prosper and really be a successful aspect and component of the neighborhood supporting infill and redevelopment throughout the urban service area as a strategic strategic component of growth additionally the adaptive reuse project allows for the redevelopment of an industrial and warehousing space and by utilizing that existing built environment the project respects the context and design features of that already developed surrounding area the proposed development produces a well-designed neighborhood specifically through the application of many of the adaptive reuse standards that they had to apply to achieve that project level they are preserving the built character of national avenue while also producing greater amounts of pedestrian infrastructure throughout that area including some of their potential future development as uh seen on the major development plan the proposed rezoning supports local businesses allowing for the expansion of the established brew pub and can allow for the creation of a variety of jobs and then the proposed zone change encourages development that promotes and enhances tourism i'm sure that everybody has experienced the growth in tourism when it comes to the brewery or distillery industry as we are in Kentucky. The staff sees that the corollary development plan and the justification does meet the design features, transportation elements, and the green space and environmental health elements of the development criteria associated with the industrial and production center develop the place type and development type and then we get into a little bit more this is our previous jumping into our the conditional zoning restrictions staff finds that these conditional zoning restrictions are appropriate and necessary so that they can buffer against the uh industrial type uses and i apologize that that is quite small but it does have all these conditional zoning restrictions and this in this exact order in that printed out sheet in front of you. It will buffer and provide a little bit of relief of those industrial land uses against those residential land uses. And then with all zone change applications this is made subject to the approval of the final development plan that is associated with this and this is a final development plan. It is PLNMJDP 21-00033 3, Morningside Market as amended. If you have any questions on the application, I'd be happy to answer. Any questions for Hal? Okay, Hal, thank you. I will say that prior to me stepping away really quickly, there is a question about one of the conditional zoning restrictions. This is the establishments and lots for the display, rental, sale, and repair of farm equipment, contractor equipment, automobiles, trucks, mobile homes, boats, or supplies for such items. There is a concern of boats. The neighborhood would like the sale of canoes and kayaks to be still available. In staff's opinion, that does not jump into this level. We typically see canoes and kayaks as being sold in outdoor stores or outdoor goods stores. And in this case, it is staff's interpretation of the zoning ordinance that this is largely attributed to motor boats, large-scale boats that would be taking up a fair amount of land in a lot so that people can come and peruse their different yacht if they wanted to. So in staff's opinion, there is no need to adjust this, but the applicant is interested in possibly amending these recommendations to include motorized boats. So just give you the heads up on that and then I'll kick it over to Mr. Martin. Mr. Martin. Mr. Chairman. Yes, sir. And members of the Planning Commission, the final development plan that you see before you today, and again it is a final development plan is as Hal explained we have Walton Avenue National Avenue and of course the neighborhood connection with the street in this location that comes back through here these are the areas in question with this particular request that you see before you and of course much of the entire area is an adaptive reuse zone in this particular instance. Here is the building that Hal was talking about where they want the brewing activities to take place that exists. It's a little over 5,000 square feet in size, not not really a real large facility per se. This area again is of interest because this This area has not been built out. As you all are most likely very aware, most of all this area was a built out area and it was one of the reasons they chose the adaptive reuse and went in that direction. This was the original, if not one of the original adaptive reuse areas in our community. This area has been amended several times actually. Originally it was one large building. You all haven't seen most of those amendments because they were minor amendments because they've actually been reducing the square footage in that area, which is allowable under a minor amendment. But what you see before you today are these buildings that are being proposed. Again, and you can see all the associated parking with this development. In this particular instance, the parking is mostly in the rear and to the sides. And that is important if you go over the conditions that you see on your agenda. but there is one issue that staff wanted to have clarified, and I might add these buildings total a little over 10,000 square feet in size, and that is considerably less than what they originally had proposed there. Again, and with the parking, there's 78 parking spaces through here to serve this development. That is over-parked, but only 36 is required. However, as you all are aware, adaptory reuse grants them a big parking break. In this case, we've learned through experience when these areas become successful, the entertainment venues usually generate a demand for more parking. So in this regard, we think that's probably a good thing. But the concern that we had, and I will point out to you under 12, 11 and 12, not 11, pardon me, 12, is the public space that you can see in the green in this area, and that was a concern initially. We wanted the applicant to demonstrate greater compliance with the new adaptive reuse standards, and those new standards really emphasized the need for more and enhanced public space. So, again, that was important, and they did that, And you can see they're demonstrating public space. In conjunction with this, they need to clarify their pedestrian access into this area from the right-of-way and also adjacent to the buildings. But again, because pedestrian facilities are so important in adaptive reuse. And that actually leads us to a discussion on 13. You'll see discuss compliance with Note 21. Note 21 is not from the original development plan, the original designation. And when this area was evaluated as an adaptive reuse, again, looking at pedestrian facilities, a lot of the sidewalks were not in the best condition. Nor were they ADA compliant in instances, as you're all aware, where they cut through the curb and they have a ramp and bring sidewalks into ADA compliance. So what we did there is actually the same thing that was done in Manchester in the distillery district. is we came up with a square footage figure of adaptive reuse activities. And when you hit that level, then it triggers improvements that the owners and the applicant would have to do to bring these facilities up into compliance. That was the purpose of that note. They have yet, they've given us a breakdown of the square footage. They're not yet at that level, but they're close. Staff would anticipate if they build these new buildings or some other occupants move into some of the existing square footage, they'll be at that level soon. And then the sidewalks would have to be reevaluated for their condition and ADA compliance and brought into compliance. That was the purpose of that. They have satisfied that particular condition. And I just wanted to bring that to your attention and would be happy to answer any questions you may have for staff. Any questions from staff? I see any. Hello, Mr. Penn. So, Tom, are we leaving 13 or taking it out on the development? I think you can take 13 out, Mr. Penn. Yes, sir. We do actually have a breakdown of the square footages of the adaptive reuse activities in this particular development. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Martin. Thank you. Good. All right. Applicant? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm Dick Murphy, pleased to be representing Walker Properties of Central Kentucky, the owner and applicant here. Chad Walker is with me today in the third row. As you all know, the Walker family has been the impetus behind the revitalization of National Avenue over the last 15 years. And Chad is here today on behalf of Walker Properties. and also with us today is Derek DeFranco, who's next to Chad. He's with Mirror Twin Brewing Company. And we are in agreement with the staff recommendations and conditions, but I did want to address that one issue that Mr. Bailey mentioned to you, and that goes to the conditional zoning restrictions. If you could put that slide back up there that has the conditional zoning restrictions on it, it would be real helpful. There you go. Okay, this relates to number 14, which is on the agenda I have, this is Roman numeral 13 on what staff handed out, but on the slide it's 14. But these are the prohibited uses. The first ones in blue or gray printing, those are largely the ones we had proposed as conditional zoning restrictions. After some discussion with the neighborhood, we proposed them on our application to you all. The one staff also had self-storage warehousing. The ones in red are the ones that the neighborhood association, the Mentel Neighborhood Association, proposed to us as discussions continued with the Neighborhood Association after we filed the application. There were many discussions back and forth between Mr. Walker and the Mentel Neighborhood Association and I wanted to thank the Mentel Neighborhood Association for working with us on this and coming to the agreement. When they proposed this condition to prohibit establishments for the lots and display, rental sale and repair of farm equipment, tractor equipment, automobiles, trucks, mobile homes, boats, or supplies for such items, they specifically said to us they wanted to make sure we could sell canoes and kayaks on that because they felt that that was appropriate. And I understand Mr. Bailey saying that the way the staff interprets that, we would be able to sell those. I'm just concerned 20 years from now when some shop owner comes in and wants to sell a canoe or some neighbor is concerned about it. When the initial checking is made, I know right now the computer systems have the conditional zoning restrictions pop up, but in case we were selling a canoe or kayak, you'd have to go back to the minutes of this meeting to say, oh, they meant, they intended that canoes and kayaks were okay even though it says boats and I don't want to get in discussion is a canoe a boat or kayak boat or not so what I would request is that in front of the word boat you just add the word motor boat or motorized boat just so it's clear on the record that in case that ever happens 20 years from now that a canoe or a kayak can be sold on this property so it's not a big thing but I've seen enough things over the years where you have to go back into the records and sometimes you go into the records and sometimes you don't so I just want to make sure it's there so that's my reason for that request but we thank you very much for your consideration of this we've the Chad Walker has worked tirelessly and the Mentel Neighborhood Association has worked tirelessly on this and we appreciate all the efforts that can put in us and the staff's effort too because that's been a big part of what you see in front of you today and why we're having an abbreviated hearing on this and we and it's all due to the success of the mirror twin brewing company as well so thank you very much and we'd be happy to answer any questions you all might have Any questions for the applicant? I got one question. On your proposed edit, I don't know much about boats, but are there boats that don't have motors that could be displayed there? Are you asking the staff's opinion or Mr. Murphy's? Yeah, just on the suggested edit, I understand staff's point, but you're adding motor motorized so could a like I said I don't know anything about boats but there's some boats that you add motors to to go fishing in little boats or something like a Mr. Martin would know like a bass boat I know nothing about fishing so a bass boat is motorized John boat I don't know the little little ones trying to clarify the size of the boats that might be sitting there without motors we could accomplish the same thing by saying boats except canoes or kayaks on there so that would exclude that and just for the record this restriction this listed use in our zoning ordinance also includes motorcycles correct but you all asked to keep that particular use to allow it to be sold yes that was part of the discussion with the neighborhood association I just wanted the planning commission to be aware of that. Okay. All right. Thank you. A quick question is maybe a staff question. Mr. Murphy, these items here, is that Mr. Murphy's list or our list? Okay. So it's really 20 conditions instead of 21 because prohibited uses can't be a condition, right? Yes, sir. This is not what I would vote on. I would go with your sheet in front of you. that yeah i was just making sure i was looking at it just somebody counted the prohibited use as one that's okay that's simple thank you okay uh can we bring it back to the commission um for further discussion or emotion and we'll need two motions as well one for the zone change and a final development plan and we do have revised conditions for on the white sheet but it's only mr pen if we're ready for a motion i'd be glad to try to make one yes sir i move for approval of mar 2111 walker property central kentucky with the revised staff report with the 20 conditions changing the boat to motorized boats. Insert the word motorized as presented by staff. We have a motion. We have a second by Mr. Nickel. Any further discussion to that motion? Now do we need to add the part about the canoes? Do you want to add to that except canoes and kayaks? Never saw a motorized canoe, but I guess it could be either. I was told by Mr. Martin you can put an onboard motor on a kayak, but it might be cleaner instead of motorized uh stating boats with the exception of kayaks and canoes that way it it gets into us judging what a motor can be put on and what it cannot be put on uh and makes it so you want me to change my motion to say with the exception prohibited with the exception of kayaks and canoes okay if my second will agree with that I'll what tangle webs we weave all right okay I hope everybody understood that one all right we have a second by mr. Nickel any further discussion okay please vote via agranicus okay that motion passes mr. chairman i move for approval of plmj dp 2133 with the 13 conditions to eliminate number 13 which will make number 1413 we have a motion do we have a Seconded by Mr. Beall. Any further discussion to that motion? Please vote via Granicus. Okay, motion passes unanimously. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I want to thank the applicant and Mr. Murphy for the way you handled this application. It was magnificent and you respected our time, you respected the staff's time, you respected the people's time. Thank you very much. I'll be there as soon as Mr. Forrester adjourns this meeting. You're going to put it all on me. I want to see you run that board. We're going to close this part of the session out. And what did we do with this one? Where is that? Canoes is for exercise. Okay. What this needs to say is you all need to make a motion to go into closed session. pursuant to KRS 61.810 for the discussion of proposed or pending litigation. .0. 61.810. So if somebody can make proposed or pending litigation. Can I clarify, was that 61.810? Yes. I'll make a motion that we go into closed session pursuant to KRS 6 1.810 to discuss proposed or pending litigation. Okay, we got a motion seconded by Ms. Wirth. All in favor, do we need a vote via Granicus? Do they vote Granicus? No, no. No? Okay. Thank you. We already had a unanimous vote. Do you want us to raise our hands again? Please raise your hand. Okay. Unanimously. Thank you. We did PDR for years. I guess PDR. It's too late now. Didn't it? Yeah. Same with all of you. Okay. So now I'll re-ready. Okay. You want to do your motion? Yeah, I'll do it. Mr. Chairman, I move that we grant the planning division the right to send a letter. enforcing article 4-8-D for the purposes to that we grant them to write the letter updating 4-8-D to seek compliance with 4-8-D of the Lane Subdivision Regulation to give the compliance authority for 4-8-D for surety we have a motion seconded by Mr. DeMoviland any further discussion to that motion parliamentarian question do we need to do we need to have a public motion to go back into open session we do we don't okay i just wanted to clarify john said it would be preferable if you did it would be preferable if we did first yeah all right let me let me do that but she wanted the camera on i think what it was we needed the camera on to go back into open session which didn't make sense i know what you're thinking because we already on tv but yeah so mr chairman i make a motion that we resume open session okay we got a motion to resume open session second am i mr demovulian all in favor please raise your hand we can pull on grandings all right motion passes thank you mr davis now mr penney you're up mr chairman i move that we grant the staff the authority to write the letter supporting 4-8-D with renewal of security. All right. We have a motion by Mr. Penn. Second. Seconded by Mr. DeMovlin. All in favor, please raise your hand. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you. Good catch, Zach. All right. Any commission items? Yeah. Right. Mr. Chair, members of the Planning Commission, good afternoon. I want to remind you all that we have a fifth Thursday this month, next Thursday the 30th, and we will be holding a work session, Phoenix Building, third floor, just as we did last week. We're going to bring you some updates on some of the Zotas we've been working on. And then I also wanted to tell you that Tuesday will be Pam Whitaker's last day. She is retiring from the government, and every one of you has interacted with her in some way, whether it's looking at your training log, getting your parking badge, something else administrative like that. Pam has been an invaluable asset to the Division of Planning and to me, and we are all going to miss her. Tuesday is her last day. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. I'm not seeing any. I take a motion for adjournment. All right, y'all have a good weekend.