Yeah All my dreams You're my son My moon My guiding star My kind of wonderful That's what you are I know There's only Only one like you There's no way They could have me too You're all I've lived before Your love I'll keep forevermore But if you're the last of everything And with you I found so many things A love so new only you could bring Can't you see it's you? Can't you see it's you? You make me feel this way You're like a fresh morning dew On a brand new day I see so many ways that I can love you dear The day I die You're my reality Yet I'm lost in all three You're the first, the last, I ever played Thank you. I know there's only, only one like you There's no way they could have made two Girl, you're my reality But I'm lost in a dream You're the first, you're the last I respect you Maybe someday I'll be strong Maybe it won't be long I'll be the one who's tough You'll be the one who's got it rough It won't be long Maybe I'll be real strong Maybe I'll do things right Maybe I'll start tonight You'll let you cry like me Baby, let's just wait and see Maybe I'll start tonight Do things right You'll control me Oh, so boldly Roomly time free So the pain that shakes me Finally makes me Get up off of my knees Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Maybe I'll be faster than you Maybe I'll break hearts too But I think that you'll slow down When your turned head comes around Maybe I'll break hearts and be as fast as you You're control Making us so boldly Ruin me time free So the pain that shakes me Finally makes me Get up off of my knees Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Maybe I'll be fast as you Maybe I'll break hearts too But I think you'll slow down When your turned head comes around Maybe I'll break hearts and be as bad as to you Maybe I'll break hearts and be as bad as to you Oh, so good We'll be right back. Thank you. You know, I'd cry like me. You know, this is a way to play. You know, maybe I'll be passing you. Maybe I'll bring you up. I'm sorry. Where it began I can't begin to know it But then I know it's growing strong Wasn't the spring And spring became the summer Who'd have believed you'd come along Hands Touching hands Reaching out Touching me Touching you Sweet Caroline Good times never seem so good I've been inclined To believe they never were But now I Look at the night And it don't seem so lonely We fill it up with only two And when I hurt The curtain runs off my shoulders How can I hurt when holding you? One Thank you. whenever you're ready. Good afternoon everyone. It's 1 30 March 24 2022. Welcome everyone to the zoning items public meeting. I'd like to call this meeting to order. First up on the agenda is the approval of minutes. That's the January 27 2022 and February 10 2022 minutes. I would I'll need a motion approval for both of those. Ms. Meyer, you're still on mute. Yes, I move for approval of the January 27th, 2022 minutes. I'd like to do it in two motions if I have two motions. So we have a motion. We have a second. Seconded by Ms. Werner. Any further discussion to that motion? All in favor, please raise your hand and hold it for a second or two. Okay, motion passes. I can't do the second one. I'm abstaining from the February. Okay. Mr. Penn, I think you had your hand raised on the first one. Do you want to do a motion for the second one for February 10th? I'll move for approval of the February minutes, February 10th meeting. We have a motion. Do we have a second? Seconded by Ms. Worth. Any further discussion to that motion? All in favor, please raise your hand. And I'm abstaining. Okay. Motion passes. Robin, did you abstain as well? I didn't see your hand. I actually came in late. I didn't hear the motion. Was it for the minutes? All right. No problem. No postponements or withdrawals. I do know we have one item. That will be abbreviated today. We will start that first page four. Mr. Chairman. Yes, Mr. Chairman. Yes, sir. I'd like to make a statement before we start this meeting. Before we start this item. Okay. As you all know, your chair and I went to the tournament in Tampa. And I want you all to see just what a fine man we have as chairman of our of our planning commission. I hope I hold this picture up where you all can see it. Can you all see this picture? I only can see, I only can see your Texas to me. Touch on the picture one time. Can you see it? If you touch the picture, it'll become big. All right, let's do this. How's that? There you go. Oh, it went away. You're testing again. He was down at the Muscleman contest, and he lost. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And, Mr. Chair, before we go to the abbreviated here for one of our items, we do need to ask if there is anyone in the public that would like for this to be heard in full. So this is PLN and they are 22-00002 Mark Family Enterprises. If there is anyone in the public that is in objection for this case at this time, if you could please go ahead and raise your hand and we will hear this case at its fullest. Mr. Carmen, if you could lower your hand in that this is your application. I do believe that you were one. Thank you, sir. So if there's anyone else from the public that would like to have this heard in a full kind of hearing rather than abbreviated, please raise your hand digitally now. Sir, I do not see any and I believe that this can be heard in an abbreviated Okay, thank you. Daniel Crumplatings done. Let me go ahead and share my screen. All right. First item on our agenda is PON-NAR-22-0002. This is Hardcone Enterprises, LLC. This is a request for a zone change for 21.616 net acres of 2179 Mahama Road from Agricultural Rural AR zoning to Expansion Area Residential 1 EAR1 zoning in order to allow for the operation of a lifestyle center at Green Park, Briar, Golf Course, and Country Club. Now this subject property is located within the expansion area and as such is not required to identify or provide a place type or development type. However, the applicant has elected to do so. The applicant has indicated that this would be an enhanced neighborhood place type with a low density non-residential development type. Here we have a location of the map showing the location of the subject property. The portion that is being rezoned with this request is shown in the center in white. It is bounded to the west by Manwar Boulevard and is approximately half a mile south of Winchester Road, fronting on Bahama Road here. Here we have a map showing the zoning of the subject property as well as the other properties in the area. property itself is currently in zone AR, as is the existing single-family residential uses in the Greenbrier neighborhood to the east. To the south, we have some smaller lots within the Greenbrier subdivision that are zoned R1T. And then to the west and north, we have expansion area residential one zoning that consists of single-family residential uses along with an agricultural use. Now on this map, you'll see that this hash line, this indicates an NV1 overlay. This is the Greenbrier in the one overlay which establishes certain restrictions on lot sizes and setbacks that don't particularly apply to this request but would apply in the event that this subject property was ever redeveloped residentially. This area was also subject to a small area plan that heavily influenced the development of said overlay. Here we have an overview of the property that shows the existing development of the site. Here once again in yellow is the portion that is subject to this rezoning. You can see the existing development here. So we have the parking lot of the Green Bayer Golf Course and Country Club, the pro shop, swimming pool, maintenance areas, as well as the existing driving range. This request is in order to facilitate the operation of a 15,000, approximately 15,000 square foot lifestyle center that will be located in this area right here near the existing development. This use will contain uses such as a health spa, golf simulations, fitness center, and other similar uses. Under the current AR zoning, the subject property is limited to 10,000 square feet in extensions. So in order to construct this center as proposed, we require the reduction in size of existing buildings or their removal. The applicant is seeking this expansion area residential one zone in order to construct those without removing any existing structures as it's a principally permitted use in the zone without any additional restrictions. Here we just have a quick view of the property. So this is the use of the subject property from Bahama Road. So the top photo is looking west into the existing parking area. You can see the existing pro shop here. The location of the proposed lifestyle center is going to be approximately in this location here. Below, we have photos of Bahama Road looking both north and south to give you an idea of the layout of the area. Staff is recommending approval with us for several reasons. The first thing is its agreement with the 2018 Comprehensive Plan's goals and objectives, as it's compatible with the existing design, scale, and urban form of the existing golf course use. The proposed development will include an existing neighborhood amenity that is an integral part of the Greenbrier neighborhood's character, and the proposed development will be limited to existing developed areas that will not reduce the open space and green space for the property. Second, the Expansion Area Master Plan, which is a map-based plan, recommends this area for EAR1 zoning, which is in line with the applicant's request. And finally, the rezoning is supported by the Greenbrier Small Area Plan, which looked to, were advocated for ways to remove that 10,000 square foot restriction that was placed on it at that time. So this recommendation of approval is made subject to approval and certification of the associated development plan, AJDP 22-00005. At this time, I'd be happy to entertain any questions you have of staff. Ms. Gallup will be on momentarily after any questions of me to go over the development plan and answer any questions relating to that. And I will stop my screen share now. Any questions from staff? Good afternoon. We're going to look at a development plan on the property. It's MJBP 22-0005 Greenbrier State's Golf Course Unit 2J. I will share the screen. This is the Greenbrier. We have Bahama Road coming in. We have the Greenbrier parking lot as Daniel was explaining the new buildings that they're proposing. This is the putting area or driving range putting area for the property. He explained that they're wanting to add additional building square footage to the site. With that, we have our standard conditions for the first six conditions are our standard conditions. We had several cleanup positions, a number of them going through. addition of record-plied, uh, clarify amendment, clarify the area of the descending map, uh, dimension existing proposed driveways, um, addition of proposed existing easements, and continued on with several other cleanup. Um, we want to make sure that the development plan has a note on it. It says to note that the property is located within the design, neighborhood design, character overlay zone. Um, we had two discussion questions. Um, discussion question 22 is to discuss the type of plan whether it's a preliminary or a final development plan this was a question because typically we see preliminaries at the zone change and but because they had already gone to the Board of Adjustments and they're here to make this zone change application so that they can make that construction of the building we were wondering if it was final development plan and then condition number 23 it says discuss place burger criteria that we can remove that now since damon is able to explain all that information about the plan so with that um if there's any other questions Any questions? Any questions? Any questions? Commission members? Mr. John Carmen and Cliff Ashburner. Berner. Mr. Carmen and Mr. Ashburner, you can go ahead and start your video and address the Planning Commission. Thank you. This is Cliff Ashburner. Can you all hear me? Yes, sir, we can. Okay. Thank you very much, members of the commission. We appreciate your time. We appreciate you making this an expedited hearing. We agree with the conditions, understanding that we would like this to be a final plan as it has gone through the Board of Adjustments already and construction has begun on the Lifestyle Center. that I believe would address condition seven as well as condition 22 outside of those two conditions we have no no qualms with the staff recommendation and we would ask that you recommend approval thank you thank you if any commission members have any questions for the applicant I do learn yes I don't want to assume anything. Is this building to be used for members only, or is it going to be open to the public? I believe it will be used by members only, as the other buildings are on the campus. Thank you. That was my assumption, but I wanted to know for sure. Thank you. Question number 7 and 22. How do we delete those? We can't delete those. Those have been discussed. Okay. All right. Okay. Thank you. We don't have anyone in the audience that would like to speak on this particular agenda item. You can do so by raising your hand. Oh, sir, I don't believe we need to. I'm used to saying it so much. It's nice to see one without it. We'll close this back out, bring it back to the commission. For a motion, we'll need two motions. One for the zone change and one for the development plan. Yes, Ms. Bo. I'll move to approve PLN MAR 2202, Hart Family Enterprises, to approve the zone map amendment from AR to EIR 1 zone for the reasons outlined by staff. Okay, we have a motion and second by Mr. DeMoglin. Any further discussion to that motion? All in favor, please raise your hand. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you. You want the development plan, Larry? Yeah, I was waiting on Mr. Poe to finish it on out. I can do that. Move to approve PLN MJDP 2205, Hart Family Enterprises, development plan with conditions recommended by staff. We're removing items 7, 22, and 23. We're moving 7, 22, and 23. Yes, okay. Second. Thank you, Larry. You're welcome. Seconded by Mr. Pien. Any further discussion to that motion? All in favor, please raise your hand. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That will bring us back to page two. PLN MAR-22-1 Town Branch. Yes, sir. We have a zone change and development plan. Yes, sir. And we'll go ahead and share our screen. Starting our presentation. Ladies and gentlemen, this is PLN MAR-22-00001 Town Branch Park Incorporated. This is a zone change for the properties or portion of the properties located at 131 and 150 Tucker Street. As you can see, the applicant is seeking to change the zones for this area in three different ways, two of which are part of the right-of-way area. That is a two-family residential R2 zone to a Lexington Business Center B2B zone for zero net and .08 gross acres. then again from the light industrial to the R2 for zero net at 0.13 gross acres and then into the meat of the conversation which is the shift from the light industrial I1 zone to the Lexington Business Center zone or that B2B zone for 9.23 net and 12.73 gross acres. The applicant is seeking to apply the downtown place type and the high density non-residential development type in an effort to develop the Town Branch Park. This park is seeking to add amenities into this area, including a cafe, amphitheater, playground, bike and pedestrian infrastructure and facilities, as well as a dog park. This proposed park will also work in tandem with the Town Branch Commons, which will serve as an important aspect of our transportation system in downtown Lexington. First, we'll just get an idea of where we are located. We are located off of Oliver Lewis Way, just south at the intersection of Newtown Pike and West Main Street. This property does have frontage all along this portion of Manchester Street, which extends along the southern portion of the site and ties into a remnant portion of Jefferson Street at this location before intersecting with West High Street. The Jefferson Street Viaduct did cross this property at one point in time before it was deconstructed recently to allow for the expansion of the Ruff Arena and the Lexington Convention Center and for the future development of a park facility at this location. Another aspect of this development is the reclassification of the right-of-way associated with Thai Court located at this section. Jumping in just a little closer gives you a better idea of how the zoning has been put into place in this area. What you can see on the westernmost or the leftmost portion of this map is the old industrial and warehousing zoning. This is heavily tied to the historic use of this area with the railroad and associated industrial and warehousing practices. On the easternmost or the rightmost side of this map, you'll see the B2B zone. That is our downtown business zone that is associated with the Lexington Convention Center. North and south of the property in the hatching that you see here and here are historic neighborhoods and districts in our community. To the north, we have the western suburb, H1 District, and then to the south, we have the Woodward Heights Historic District. In each of those areas, we have a bit more of the residential type zoning. As we get off of Main Street and shift back onto short, we're seeing that R3 and R4 residential zoning. On the southern side, we are seeing the two-family residential, or what is commonly associated with duplexes, that form of zoning along High Street and then back into the neighborhood. We do have a small portion of P1 or professional office along West Main Street near that intersection with Newtown Pike and Oliver Lewis Way. And that is associated with some of the professional services or the neighborhood services in this area. Jumping to the aerial photography, this gives you a better view of the land use and how it has been developed over time. Just on the property itself, you can see that this is currently utilized and has been utilized as parking. Until the 1970s, this was a very important aspect of the rail yard industry in Lexington. As Rupp Arena was developed in the mid to late 70s, those rail lines did start to disappear. But we do have a connection of the R.J. Corman line that extends into this property right along here. underneath the Oliver Lewisway Bridge. There are connections with the current Town Branch Trail along here, connecting into what will be our future facilities along Manchester Street. Again, Tycourt is a small local road that extends off of Manchester Street at this location and serves the rear of some of these duplex properties, as well as the industrial property located right here. Jumping into the property itself, we see how it is being utilized as of two weeks ago with the school buses entering for the Sweet 16 tournament, as well as the rear of a lot of those properties that are fronting on Main Street. This property does sit down into the depression of this area associated with the Town Branch Creek, which you can see at this location here. The lower left photo is a picture of Manchester as we're heading towards Oliver Lewis Way and towards the distillery district. The center photo located right here is that remnant portion of Jefferson Street that ties into Manchester Street. And then the rear portion of the Central Bank Center or the LCC at this location, which does have an access point for the larger vehicles that are dropping off materials and really supporting the events that occur at this location. Jumping around on the site a little bit, on this rightmost photo, we are able to see the Oliver Lewis Way Bridge that connects us over to Main Street and north to Newtown Pike. A photo into the site looking from Oliver Lewis Way up Manchester and towards downtown and then jumping across to that northern edge of Jefferson Street looking down into the property and the northern, I apologize, the southern connection over towards West High Street and then the connection into the town branch commons located right here along Rupp Arena. here we get a photos of some of that area of Thai court that are really important to look at the top right is that industrial building that is being utilized currently and the intersection here with Manchester Street looking down Thai court towards the KU substation and then the rear of the townhomes that front on West High Street, but back onto Tycourt and Manchester. The applicant is seeking to develop this as a downtown place type. This is the epicenter of commerce and entertainment within our community. Within review of the applicant's justification letter, staff is in agreement that a downtown place type is appropriate for this location. Next, the applicant is seeking to apply the high-density non-residential or mixed-use development type. With this development type, all too often the comprehensive plan is focused on the built environment, looking at high-rise or mid-rise structures and the blend of residential and commercial opportunities. This is a somewhat different type of application in that they are seeking to develop an entertainment-driven area that is meant to bring large amounts of people downtown and to have added amenities for those individuals. As such, staff saw that this application was in agreement with the essential tenants of the high-density non-residential and mixed-use development type in that they are trying to bring in a greater amount of individuals and provide greater amenities for the whole of the community. So staff does agree that the high-density non-residential or mixed-use development type can be appropriate for this location with this development. And then finally, the applicant is seeking to apply the B2B zoning on this location. This is a recommended zone in this place type and development type, and staff is supportive of that. Just to give you a brief look at the development plan. Mr. Martin will talk about this in greater detail following the discussion of the zone change. The applicant is seeking to apply connections into this area off of Oliver Lewis Way, here and here, the Town Branch Trail here and here, and then West High Street located here. The applicant is seeking to adjust some of the internal roadway systems here to allow for greater movement in this area, while also providing a bit of traffic calming. Mr. Martin can go through some nicer visual aids for some of this here momentarily. During our initial reviews of this zone change application, staff really had two primary concerns about how the applicant was in agreement with the comprehensive plan. The first being its tie-in with the Town Branch Trail. The applicant is providing an important bridge that connects between the Town Branch Trail along Manchester Street and then over to the transition onto West Main Street as it goes to the east as we head towards the jog down onto Vine Street and the constructive portions of this trail. Staff was very concerned about the need for this to remain open 24 hours a day so that individuals would be able to use this as part of our transportation network. During the zoning committee, the applicant indicated that this portion of the trail would remain open 24 hours a day so that individuals could use this as part of their commuting patterns. In addition to the transportation aspect of the trail, staff did have a concern about the connection with West High Street, specifically what is the remnant of Jefferson Street and has recently been reclassified as Manchester Street. This is a portion of the roadway that provides access to some of the Thai court properties, as well as provides connections in and out of this site. Over the past few weeks since the zoning committee, the staff has met with the applicant several times to discuss providing an access point. Their current preliminary development plan shows a cul-de-sac with an access point to the Lexington Convention Center. However, it does not show two-way access to West High Street itself. Over the past few weeks, staff has worked closely with the applicant, and the applicant has provided examples of how two-way access on Manchester Street can be applied. This is important on two separate levels, not only for the transportation aspect, the connectivity aspect that the comprehensive plan calls for, but also for the safety aspects. The applicant is seeking to bring individuals in through a tunnel bridge system that takes them over to their perch that overlooks the Great Lawn, as well as pedestrian activity here along Manchester Street. However, vehicular movement and the availability of vehicular travel along here brings a greater amount of natural surveillance into this area, providing for a bit more safety and oversight, while also allowing potential future development of those areas that are zoned R2 along Thai Court and that could face along this property. So staff is recommending approval of this zone change for several reasons, including that the B2B zone is in agreement with the 2018 comprehensive plans, goals, and objectives. This will provide and protect the environment by reducing some of the carbon impact in the area, lessening the amount of impervious surface, and increasing the amount of green space in this area. It is seeking to daylight or bring up portions of the Town Branch Creek along the southwest border of the park and will conserve and protect that environmentally sustainable or environmentally sensitive portion of the site in a sustainable way. The proposed rezoning is seeking to add certain amenities, including the cafe and the amphitheater, which will seek to create jobs in the operation of the site, while also promoting some tourism activity and some of the adjacent amenities to this area. So it is seeking to have that down-the-line impact that can bring greater amounts of individuals downtown into our community. The proposed park is seeking to embrace the activities and performances, as well as festivals and events that would be important to the social aspect of our community, not only for children, but also for adults. And then they are seeking to provide facilities that will improve the health and safety for this area, while also providing amenities for this area. Finally, it will protect and enhance the natural and cultural landscape of Lexington by restoring this portion of the Town Branch Creek. The B2B zone is in agreement with the plan's policies in connecting the Town Branch Commons as called for in the Town Branch Commons Master Plan. And then also by developing an important, by playing that important role of growth in our area by providing a regional park place or node within our regional park system. The justification and the Corollary Development Plan are in agreement with the policies and development criteria of the 2018 conference plan, including site design, building, form, and location, transportation and pedestrian facilities, and then green space and environmental health. There are those slight adjustments to the right of way that are meant to bring the categories or the zoning in line with the surrounding zoning, and that will allow for more appropriate transitions from land use. And then also that this is all subject to the certification and approval of PLN MJDP 22-0007 Town Branch Park, which Mr. Martin will come and talk to you about here shortly. So with that, if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them at this time. But Mr. Martin will be available to talk a little bit more at depth with the development. Any questions? All right. Mr. Martin, I'll hand it off to you. Mr. Chairman, members of the Planning Commission. Am I sharing? You are. I am. Excellent. Al left me in good shape. Members of the Planning Commission, we are looking at the development plan that Al showed you briefly during his presentation for the proposed Town Branch Park. And again, here's Oliver Lewis Way with proposed access off of Manchester coming in through and maintaining Manchester Street in this location with the cul-de-sac. Of course, Main Street is up here to the north. This is the Lexington Center. You can see from the layout, they're proposing an internal access drive to serve not only access to the park, but access to the center, maintaining vehicular access way into the park at this location. We have a looping trail system around the park that you can see to allow people to exercise, walk, and access various parts of the park as they desire. As Hal mentioned, Town Branch Commons Trail is coming in through this direction and in paralleling the internal system and bringing you through the town branch on out and down towards the distillery district and other parts of our community now here is town branch as it comes out of its its existence uh in a culvert as you all know town branch is covered by vine street and is mostly contained with the color it daylights at this location and you can see as it moves through the park this will be an integral feature of the park that the applicant they are going to approve it enhance it stabilize the banks and do a lot of work on town branch the facilities that hal mentioned you can see here is a cafe the amphitheater These are the seats in this area for the amphitheater, again, facing the stage. This is oriented towards the center and away from any residential properties, the church and other properties to the north. So that activities, music, that sort of thing, the sound will be oriented towards the audience and towards the seating in this area. Here is the park area, the playground area with a splash park and lots of features. Very active, very active portion of the park. We have a lawn area, kind of an open lawn area here where people can picnic, lounge, throw Frisbees, that sort of thing. And here is the dog park area as well for this park. This is the access from High Street that Hal mentioned. that is a pedestrian tunnel and bridge that will go across. Now, you all saw the pictures. It's so important to realize how this sits. What a low area this is. The topography is a challenge. And staff will tell you we recognize and appreciate the challenge that the applicant has had in dealing with the topography and the way this property sits. So this you have to picture is bridging the access road in Manchester, crossing over it in this area they call the perch, which will allow for people to observe the activities that are going on at the stage and the amphitheater, just watch the park. So it's a nice entrance with an impact on people that will be coming to the park. Now, there are several issues with access and how touched on it have been important. And first, I would say that the development plan that you see before you has several cleanup conditions associated with it. Staff has seen a version that addresses those cleanup conditions. it's just that it wasn't submitted in time for us to fully review it and give you a revised report but again those are cleanup conditions uh simple things like to mention the buildings denote the floodplain uh i will say that as hal mentioned we have met with them and had numerous discussions they have also met with other bodies uh traffic engineering and they met with engineering to discuss the creek, discuss the setbacks of vegetating buffers. But again, I would state that the creek will be an integral part of the park and what they're trying to achieve. Now, there are several conditions on page four of your agenda that tie together into staff's concerns about the park. and again i want to emphasize uh the ambition of this park and and the vision of it it's a very active park this is not a passive greenway area or just a place where people can go and just kind of hang out uh if they're downtown no the the vision here is to have a very active programmable space that's going to require significant management by the management entity in terms of coordinating activities and events in the park, along with those events that will be taking place in the convention center as well. So that brings in this relationship. There is a condition concerning access to Main Street via West Jefferson. This is this area to the north. Well, that's off the table. There are ongoing negotiations with the church to resolve those issues with the church. Staff doesn't know the details or what the status of that is. Other than that, they are ongoing negotiations between the various entities to resolve the access and parking issues and the property issues that impact this section of West Jefferson. Because of that, that puts greater emphasis on the high street connection. and again taking into consideration the topography the relative isolation again of this site as Hal said historically this is a rail yard the railroads ran through here uh it sits down very very low uh it does not have good visibility from uh the viaduct the bridge at Avaluas Way Obviously, with the development around it and the way it sits low, so it is not visible from a lot of the public right-of-ways in areas around the park. Again, that brings us back to a concern with this area with the pedestrian tunnel and bridge. Staff had recommended that they maintain a vehicular access in this point as well. it's not either or it's both staff supports the bridge the tunnel the grand vision of the opening up into the park but we also believe that this is an important relationship and it goes back to again managing the area managing the events and leads to another condition which is parking and staffs had considerable discussions with the applicant about parking. Normally, this is a nine-acre park, a lot of activities. You would see some effort to provide a parking lot, on-site parking. But again, challenges of the site, trying to utilize the site, create these nice spaces has created an issue for parking. Now, they are proposing parking along Manchester Street. Pardon me, down in here, some parking in this area. As we all know, there's a big parking lot across from Up Arena, so there is parking in the area. They've constructed a new parking garage, again, that's going to have 400 plus parking spaces in it, but utilization of this parking is going to have to be coordinated with the actual utilization of the space, the programs, the things that are going on. That's going to require very active management on the part of the applicant to address that particular issue. Now, this is a preliminary development plan. You will see a final development plan, and staff has brought that up and brought it to your attention as well as the applicant's attention. So at the time of the final development plan, we would anticipate that there will be a resolution to how they propose to manage the parking and demand for parking. This, as Hal stated, is going to be an attraction. This is designed to bring people here. So again, that is an issue of concern, but on a preliminary plan, I think staff is comfortable that that could be resolved at your final development plan. Now, back to this access off High Street. The applicant did do a new design, shared it with staff, showing that the space there can accommodate the vehicular access, can accommodate the bridge, can accommodate this area. The topography is a challenge. And there is cost associated with that. As you have already heard and seen, there's going to be retaining walls in the area. The demography is a challenge. So there are obviously costs. But again, staff believes that that solution would help both with parking management, access to the park, visibility, and just allow better circulation of traffic in the entire area when there's events or even when there's not events. Again, so that's an option that we believe is very important to be resolved. Now, I would point to the conditions once again. Item 17 was discuss access to Main Street via West Jefferson Street. Well, as I said, that's basically off the table for vehicular access. We've got the trail in that area. So actually, that condition, staff believes, should be resolve access to High Street via the West Jefferson Street right away. It's now called Manchester Street, but it's the old Jefferson Street right away in this area. And again, recognizing the challenges of the site, recognizing that there's cost concerns, staff does believe that that actually would enhance the park and the overall functionality of the park, including safety, public safety issues with the park. And there is one other item I'll mention, that at the time of final development plan, they will need to submit any assessment or remediation plans associated with the environment in that area. Again, the old railroad yard, a lot of industrial uses, a lot of over the year, over many years. As you all well know, this is one of the oldest areas of our community. uh they will we anticipate the examining that area for such uh for those types of issues and doing some studies and we would just like to have those submitted so that we know what's been found uh i will add briefly because it just hit me again town branch as you see here they're going to open up or this plan proposes to open up a little part of uh a tributary which is interesting again to enhance the features of the park but with that i will stop sharing and answer any questions you may have for staff on the development plan and mr penn tom i want to start with the fundamental question who owns the land that this park's going to be built on LCC Lexington Center Corporation Yes sir So they're leasing it to Town Branch Foundation I would assume so Yes sir Alright and the other question I have is Being as we've moved from The north end to the south end For access Granted that there's going to be a lot of pedestrian access From the main street side Down the commons To the park the question becomes to me is what do you do with that tunnel to make it safe do you light it do you patrol it do you gate it off at night what do you do with that tunnel excellent question mr pen and that's been the subject of much discussion between staff and the applicant the design that they are proposing will open it up there'll be a lot of lights they're trying to make it as short as possible and again we wanted to we can discuss this as well at the final development plan if further measures are necessary based on the programmable aspects of the park but there are going to be multiple pedestrian access points into the bar but safety is absolutely a big concern with staff so i guess we'll just hold the rest of these questions till we see the final development plan? Yes, sir. I think they need to be raised now, and I appreciate the fact that you've done so, but yes, at the final development plan would be appropriate time to actually resolve that access and the design of that access on High Street. The reason I ask that question at this particular time, Tom, is the fact that there's been a lot of individuals who have who have supported this project in various ways through donations through hard work it's been a lot of work in this and I'd be remiss if I didn't say Ann Beck has done a great job of raising money for this park and it's absolutely going to draw a lot of people to this area parking will always be an issue and that's going to be an ongoing issue the other issue that we've taken off the table is off the table until they get a final resolution. And then the question becomes, what do you do with the remainder of that property of the entrance off of Main Street? So I guess that's not part of the development plan. And so we're just going to forget about that for now and just focus on the development plan. Yes, sir. And I would reiterate that staff is aware that there's ongoing negotiations to address that northern portion of West Jefferson in their negotiations with the church. Archer, thank you. Yes, Mr. Paul. I might point out that, well, first let me say I'm glad that there are discussions going on about how to maintain vehicular access from High Street. I just wanted to point out with regard to the tunnel that there's already a much, much, much larger tunnel that will be accessing the park underneath Oliver Lewis Way. So just, you know, there's already an issue there with a substantial, I don't know, I don't know you would call that a tunnel in that case, because you're walking under bridge, but it's a pretty long hike as you go under that bridge. Again, that's an excellent comment that points to a recognition of the challenges of this site. Any more questions for Tom? Are we going to bring back Hal Bailey again? He has one more. I just wanted to say there are five letters or six letters of support located in your Google Drive and one letter of concern, I will say, associated with this zone change. You both have them in front of you in physical copy, but those are under the citizen comment or public comment in your Google Drive. Okay. I'm not seeing any other questions, Tom. Oh, Robin has hands up. Sorry, Robin. Robin. This is just a question, Tom, related to something that Hal said, and this is almost just a procedural or information question for myself. Hal brought up the point that staff was concerned about making sure that the portion of the Town Branch Trail, which is really being seen as an artery through Lexington, maintains 24-hour access. Is that something that is added in just as a zoning condition, or is that something you're looking for on the development plan as well? It is a development plan issue at this point. We believe it can be resolved that way. They show it as being open and moving through the park. So that's not a condition on the zone change. That's something that we're looking to see denoted specifically on the development plan. It can be. Yes, sir. And the plan does show it traversing through the park and being open. And they have committed themselves to that. Okay. I just want to make sure that this is a completely different situation with a completely different entity in a project. But, you know, I live on Marquis Avenue by the Euclid Avenue Kroger's and they dutifully put the door that they keep locked on Marquis Avenue, you know. And so I want to make sure that it's not one of those situations where they build the correct infrastructure, but then it's locked and doesn't serve that transportation need. Yes, sir. We can certainly have that denoted on the plan. Okay. Thank you, Rob. Any further questions? Thank you, sir. Okay, advocate. So John Carmen has his hand raised, and I promoted him. In addition, I'm assuming Mr. Abies wants to be promoted as well. So we'll promote him, and if he chooses not to promote his video. Mr. Carmen, you're still muted, just as a heads up. And if you have, and Mike or Mr. Carmen, if you have anybody else that you would like promoted at this time, we can do so. Yes, there will be two other people who will be speaking for us. One is Allison Lankford, and the other is Sarah Mass. We will have them promoted now. All right. And they have been brought into this meeting as well. Thank you. All right. If you would like to, you may address the Planning Commission. Thank you, Hal, and thank you, Chairman Forrester and the commission members for the opportunity to present Town Branch Park to you, both as a rezoning application and for approval of the associated preliminary development plan. We believe this park will be an iconic and a landmark development for the community of Lexington, serving the community for decades and decades. I'd just like to reemphasize the position of the staff. We agree with all of the staff reasons for supporting the rezoning and especially the three essential elements of the comprehensive plan that the park rezoning application is consistent with, which are the goals and objectives, the policies, and the development criteria. All of those, the application supports. I think the staff gave you a very good description of the property, the surrounding properties, and I only have just two comments to make about that. The park actually lies approximately 25 feet below the level of West Main Street and the level of West High Street and the neighboring properties that actually are contiguous to the park. And when the staff indicated that this physical characteristic of the park has caused some challenges both to access and development activities, that's entirely accurate. we have had a number of meetings with urban county government departments engineering traffic and planning commission staff and we'll continue those as we look towards filing and bringing back to you a final development plan. Clearly, the existing zoning of industrial, light industrial, is not in agreement with the plan, and nor is it consistent with the actual uses of the surrounding properties, subject to only the Corman property on the west side of Oliver Lewis Way, which continues to be used as a railroad area. The park is going to be open to everybody in the community. We're going to offer programs, activities, events, and our presentation will focus in more detail on those. And I do want to mention that the park is a not-for-profit entity qualified by the IRS as a tax-exempt entity and governed by a board of directors of Lexington citizens. We do commit to agree to a condition of the development plan, both preliminary and final, that the Town Commons Trail will be open 24-7, as it serves as a critical link between the Commons Trail to the east through Vine Street and then as it continues to the west out towards the distillery district. And we are going to address in our presentation the several concerns that were expressed by commission members relating to the tunnel. And in addition, we commit to continuing discussions with the staff, with traffic, with engineering to reach a solution for the Manchester Street vehicular connection to Haas Street. Although it is not shown on our initial preliminary development plan, as the staff indicated in recent meetings with the staff engineering and traffic, We were requested to develop an alternative or an option that would allow vehicular connection. We have presented an initial concept of that, and we commit to continued meetings with them and anticipate submitting with the final development plan a proposal that would meet the concerns of that connection. With that, I'd like to introduce Allison Lankford. Allison is the executive director of Town Branch Park to discuss the mission and history of the park and some other aspects of the development. And then she will be followed by Sarah Mass. Sarah Maas is a landscape architect with the national landscape architect firm of Sasaki, who is serving as the principal consultant to the park for the development of the park. and then John Kermit is available if there are any follow-up questions relating to any details of the final development plan. Thank you for your consideration and Allison, Zoom is yours. thanks mike and thank you to the commission i want to first apologize i came into the office although it's been somewhat under construction of a renovation so you wouldn't be bothered by my dogs but uh there's a drill going on in the back so i hope you can hear me clearly um i wanted to provide first a little context in history you know in 2016 uh the city lfucg ask a committed group of volunteers, including Ann Backus, who was mentioned here today, to help fulfill the master plan for Town Branch Commons by overseeing the development of the city-planned Signature Park, which is now effectively known as Town Branch Park, in this current site and location. And we agree that there are definite challenges to this site. We are so proud of the work that our design team has done to turn some of those challenges into actual assets. But that site was actually chosen as part of the 2013 International Design Competition led by LFUCG. The park was always envisioned as a 10-acre green space adjacent to the iconic Rupp Arena and the Lexington Convention Center. to complement those assets and others in our downtown Lexington and provide that highly desired green space in the core of downtown. It also provides, as Kyle mentioned, that connective link, the missing link, really, that connects Town Branch Trail to the Legacy Trail. And once the park is completed, you will have connected 22 miles of protected pedestrian and bicycle paths, which is very exciting for our community. What started as a fund of the Community Foundation has now evolved, as Mike mentioned, into its standalone nonprofit organization. The board and staff continue to oversee the private fundraising initiatives for the project, as well as oversee the design and the business planning for park opening. That business plan includes programming, operations, and maintenance. And so we are thinking about all of that now. In 2021, in January, actually, after a pretty robust RFP process, we brought on Suzuki, who is just a global leader in creating inspiring public spaces. And I'll look forward to you to hear from Sarah. But they also brought on a lot of local consultants, including John Carmen and Strand, who I think is available today if we need to hear from them as well. At the same time, we also brought on a construction management team, Dean Beals and Elaine Allen, because our goal was always to evaluate the constructability of this park and the cost considerations at every stage in the process, and that's what we've done. We completed schematic design in June 21. We are currently finalizing the design development, which has a lot more detail to it, and we hope to begin construction this fall. From the beginning, this park has always been envisioned as a regional park for all of Lexington and really beyond. What started in 2017, well, we started in 2017, this whole process with a community engagement process. We wanted to know how folks wanted to use this space, what they wanted to do there, what would make them feel welcome in this public space. And since that time, we have engaged over 16,000 people in the process in one way or another through our community engagement efforts. And I will tell you that the excitement and support for this project, both as advocates, but also financially, has been tremendous. And we're really just getting started with the fun stuff. So we're looking forward to the time to come. I wanted to just very quickly share my screen with you, if that's okay, because I wanted to show you that this is one of the first documents and the design in the center has evolved over time. And Sarah is going to walk you through that. But from the very beginning, as I mentioned, we were thinking about how we were going to use this space. What was the active space? What was the more passive space? How did the sight lines work? How are we going to navigate the core park and actually get to the park? That public access question. And all of that hinged on how we were going to use the space and the programming that would take place. So this is still in draft form. I would say it's a living document because it's evolving continually as the design becomes more refined. But you can see the types of things the community has said to us about how they want to use this space. And we have opportunities for large events, 5,000-person great lawn and stage, all the way to a 30-person mini amphitheater in the form of a public art piece that can accommodate school children or interest groups. And so you can see, and I thought the staff did a tremendous job. I might have to take them on the road in some of our fundraising meetings because they really have such a great handle on the plans for the park. But really the heart of the park is in the center, which Sarah will talk about. And as you move more toward the perimeter, that is that quiet, more reflective space for the park. And I will stop sharing my screen. We really appreciate your time, and I look forward to answering any questions you may have. But in closing my portion of it, you know, we envisioned this space as much more than just a beautiful place. We also wanted it to be thoughtfully programmed and designed to be used by people of all backgrounds and abilities, and I think you'll see that in the design. We also believe it'll serve as an economic engine for our downtown by complementing the work of the convention center and other businesses in our downtown and other nonprofit amenities that are already there. We will have been working and will continue to work with those existing assets in downtown Lexington to coordinate our program and to enhance what's already going on in downtown Lexington. But we see this as a complement and an attraction for conventions and tourism in downtown Lexington. We think it is a business development asset for those businesses we wish to attract in Lexington that really emphasize quality of life for their employees and really talent attraction and retention. And so while we think the beauty of the space alone is enough to create excitement. We really believe that it is much more than that. And so I'm pleased to turn it over now to Sarah, who will walk you through some of the design highlights. Thank you, Allison and Mike, Commissioner. I'm going to go ahead and share my screen here. Oops, excuse me. Back it up here. Can everyone see the screen? Wonderful. What I'm sharing here with you today is the updated rendering from schematic design to design development. This is where we are now. This is reflective of the plan that you all are reviewing. So a graphic representation here. And I will just third and second, you all have done such a wonderful job explaining the park and walking everyone through. But I will just take another moment here to just highlight on some of the program and allow you to kind of see it in this rich graphic form. And the next slide will focus a little bit more on some connectivity and circulation. But essentially, we've got the Town Branch Trail coming out along your north. It's highlighted here kind of in green, got Oliver Lewis to the left, LCC on the right, and Manchester Street to the south or the bottom of the page here. One of the great things about this plan is that bringing in the pedestrian and bike trail of Town Branch through the site. But additionally, we have a large circulation loop that goes around the entire site. And within that loop is multiple loops. So we've got two pedestrian bridges crossing the site and then a third over here by the stage, which traverses the new tributary that we are proposing. So there's a lot of opportunities to choose your own path and explore the park, whether you want to do multiple loops or loops within loops. So we think that's a great highlight of this park. As many others have mentioned, also we've got some passive flexible play here with recreation lawns, so a place to kick the ball around, throw a Fisbee, fly a kite or picnic with friends and family. The dog park is a wonderful feature of this park highlighted over here to the left. We've got a large long run area to throw the ball with the dogs and also a separate small dog area, as well as a few proposed agility areas. So places for the dogs to run up and over as well as logs and different variety of objects to jump on and play with your dogs, but also just a place to gather with the community, meet friends and maybe make new friends. The Adventure Play is a fantastic area just packed full of program. There's a adventure gristmill to climb and to explore. There's water play on hot days. This will be a nice place to come and get some refreshment and some respite from the hot sun. Just imagine this place being full of children laughing, just so much activity. And the nature play area is really kind of surrounded contextually by an amazing sensory garden and landscape. So those will be amazing plants to smell, things to touch, soft plants, and then grasses that kind of sway in the wind and have a lot of auditory excitement as well. And then moving over here to the cafe plaza. This is one of those areas that Allison was showing in the previous slide where this is a place that could be programmed so there could be events held here in addition to just people gathering and having a snack or lunch and whatnot. We are proposing restrooms, cafe, stage, a catering kitchen, kind of in this whole architectural complex here. The stage is opened up to this great lawn with a series of terraces where people can sit and gather. But there's also flat panels of lawn within those areas. So you could hold yoga in the park and so many different activities within those lawn areas, as well as just a quiet place to be when it's not active. The perch is a wonderful place, again, to kind of survey the land. Others have mentioned the, you know, the difficult constraints with grades that we're working here with here on the site. But it also, in some aspect, can be made a benefit. So this whole loop path that circles the site is really up high. So you have this great vantage point down into the site and ability to look down into all the activity that's happening. And the perch is one of those places where you just have a great vantage point of the great lawn and what's going on there. Additionally, there's first impression sculpture, which is this beautiful sculpture that's been conceived of. It's like this fossil that's kind of extruding out of the ground and it can be activated and people can sit on it, lay on it. It's an outdoor classroom. And this is really located in a place that triangulates a lot of the activity. So with this snow to the north, you have great vantage points also views into the dog park, into the cafe plaza as well. Within the park, a native landscape palette will be conceived of appropriate to the area, and the Town Branch Creek will be utilizing some bio-stake techniques, which help stabilize the bank. and just different seasonal palettes that throughout the year, even when it's winter or fall, you can imagine kind of beautiful echinacea seed heads black kind of contrasting against the kind of buff grasses as they go dormant. So really thinking about the whole season of this park. And then the high street entrance, this is a great place to get peds and bikes into the park. We're really trying to focus our efforts on this and make the pedestrian underpass as safe and as enjoyable to be around. We are contemplating how we could maybe engage art to help activate the inside of the tunnel. It could be murals, it could be sculpture, but irregardless, really focusing on trying to make this as short as possible, opening up the grades as you enter into this, so you have fantastic sight lines into the lower level, and creating that great pet and bike connection from the south side directly into the park. So we think we're really excited about being able to get people directly into the park from that entrance. Signage is another component to kind of creating the safe entrance. So there'll be signage without the park that alerts people to what program is happening and where the town branch trail is and where the entrance is. It's really demarcating and creating some good wayfinding here. Just again to highlight on what others have mentioned before, we're looking at different access points to really connect this park out into the community and into downtown. So we've got an access point over off of Oliver Lewis, all ADA accessible here. And then what you see here is the blue line. That's the Town Branch Trail here. So coming through our site. And you can see we have on the north end kind of a redundant circulation system. And this also helps us I'll also be able to ensure that this trail maintains its open nature from 24-7 throughout the day. But again, really, you can see in this diagram, a lot of different loops are able to be made throughout. Access point off of Manchester Street to the south, and then again, High Street, and then the Lincoln Passage. And these are some graphic illustrations that were put together through in schematic design. We are currently updating these, but I think they are still really wonderful at depicting kind of the level of activity and the program, which hasn't changed. So this view is as if you're standing on Oliver Lewis, looking down into Town Branch Creek. You can see the loop to your right going along and then as well as many pedestrian bridges that take you over the creek. and will just be an amazing moment to, I think, imagine standing on that pedestrian bridge, looking up and down the creek and kind of engaging with the park. We've got the adventure play in the background here. You can see this tunnel coming down, and this has evolved significantly, but a lot of activity in this area, and then the stage in the background with the Great Lawn. And then this is a kind of close-up view, imagining that if you were on the pedestrian bridge looking into the play area, you can see what we call the gristmill. So kind of picking up on the Lexington vernacular of gristmills in the area, but really opening it up, creating this really fun, exciting, probably, you know, unlike anything I think a lot of kids have been able to experience in the city. this area, which I think will be really fun. Great slides. So this whole playscape is really built into the slopes and the kind of karst limestone topography again. So creating the slope and then using that grade to build in slides. And in the foreground, you can see the water play moment. So a lot of ways to interact with the water, whether it's running through pop jets or directly walking up to some of these play features, which allow you to interact and get your hands into the water. And then lastly, this is actually, it's not the last one. This is second to last. This is the stage. So imagine almost as if you are, you've just come across the high street connector, we'll call it. So you're standing on the loop, looking over to the stage in the amphitheater and you can see the perch in the midground here which is that point where you can stand and look look over and you see the new tributary we're proposing as well come across here and then lastly this is the cafe and stayed the cafe and restroom so this is the plaza that is behind the cafe and then you've got a little bit of the rec lawn to your left but this is just great programmable space that could be used for so many different activities, whether it's a game of bags or more of a formal gathering for a birthday party or something like that. But another wonderful place to gather within the park. Stop sharing here. Thank you, Allison and Sarah. We, of course, are available, and so is John, or our strand representative, to respond to any questions from commission members, or should there be any additional questions from the staff? But we look forward to continuing to, as I mentioned before, continuing to meet with the staff and urban county government representatives as we look towards submitting a final development plan. so the commission will have an opportunity to review again in much more detail and final plans for not only the access points but other aspects of the of the park so with that we respectfully urge approval by the commission of the rezoning and of the preliminary development plan and we remain available for any questions thank you all right thank you any commission member has any questions for the applicant not seeing any oh i have two two robin first and grammy go after robin Well, I was going to say I really appreciated seeing all of the creativity that went into these plans and the use. And I really appreciate making the space open and active for people and really pushing the parking out of the space. So coming back in a little bit with what staff mentioned towards the final development plan, I really hope that the parking requirements don't get in the way of what you are trying to accomplish here. And appreciate you all coming today. I second the motion there, Robin. I just have a quick question. Has anyone dealt with the panels for public art that are underneath the Oliver Lewis Way Bridge alongside the trail? I don't of course the Oliver Lewis Way itself the bridge and the area underneath the bridge are actually property of the Department of Transportation it's now a state highway but I don't think we have addressed that that actually Cox Street, which now runs off of Manchester Street and serves as an access point to the Corman Railroad yard to the west of all of the Louis Way, is going to have to remain as an access point to Corman. But whether there is an opportunity for some sort of artwork under the Oliver Lewisway Bridge. It's something we can explore. We're going to be, we have been meeting, we're going to be meeting again with the Department of Transportation about a number of issues, and they have a parcel of property at the corner of Manchester in all of this way that we're working with to, which will accommodate part of the trail. So I, Ms. Chappell, I don't know whether that's possible, but we'll explore that when we meet with them. I could add to that. The University of Kentucky, some of their design students did come up with some really wonderful ideas about better utilizing under the bridge spaces, like under Oliver Lewis Way Bridge, and as part of support for this project. So we do have some great ideas about how to better use that space, but we're still trying to get a handle on ownership and working with the Department of Transportation. So it's not part of our current plans, but it is something that could be later phases and that we're thinking about for sure. Thank you. I sort of asked the question in part to put a bug in everyone's ear about that because when the bridge was built, there were panels cast into the concrete specifically for murals along the trail underneath the bridge. And those things get lost to our cultural memories sometimes. So I thought I'd throw it out there. We will follow up. Ben? Yeah, I don't know who to address this to, so I'll just throw it out there and somebody can step in and answer it. I guess being a long-term citizen of Lexington, one who helped take the railroad ties out of Water Street, which became Vine Street, the quality of water in the town branch, I certainly hope that we're not talking about using that water for people to play in. And I don't think we are, certainly hope we're not because the quality of water in town branch is not exactly the kind of water you want to play in. The other thing I'd like to ask, so what I'm more concerned about is the unintended consequences of what we're doing here. And I'm very much a supporter of this. My wife and I are financially supporters of it. And this in no way is meant to degrade the program or the process or the park. But I know from past experience that the unintended consequences of something like this, if you can anticipate them ahead of time they're a whole lot easier to fix than if you have to fix them after the park because you didn't anticipate it so i'm for one i'm going to be looking pretty hard at this final development plan to see if we've missed anything that we could fix because it's easy to fix on paper it's harder to fix once you build it and i talked about the tunnel We've talked about the access in and out, the openness of it. I want us to think because this park is going to drive how we develop Manchester Street as a tourism draw, as a economic development. And we have some safety issues on Manchester Street that we know about. Let's do it right on this end. Let's anticipate all that we can, and then we can put more pressure on the state to help us redevelop Manchester Street in a safe place. So I'll be looking for that. And at some point, when the final development plan comes, I think we're going to be excited about this. I know I'm excited about it now. I just want to fix everything we can while it's on paper and not try to refit it afterwards. But I thank you for your presentation. I'm excited about it and look forward to seeing it. Thank you, Mr. Penn. We pledge to address these issues specifically as we work through the final development plan process and we'll address them when the plan comes before the commission again. Thank you, sir. Any further questions for the applicant? Do we have anyone or any citizens that would like to speak either for or against this particular application? Please do so by raising your hand via Zoom. Do we have Laura Wallace? She wrote the letter. If anyone on the call would like to provide public comment at this time, please raise your hand visually. Sir, we see none. Okay, thank you. We're bringing it back to the commission. Any further discussions? If there isn't any further discussions, the floor is open for any motion. Ms. Work. Mr. Chairman, I move for approval of PLN-MAR-22 or one Town Branch Park E. We're zoning up a limit from light industrial to white and things in a business. Okay. We have a motion. Second. Mr. Gold. Sir, if I may, Ms. Work, there are two other zones that are involved with this as well. I don't have my own glasses on. Where do I need you guys? If you'd like, you can just read off the PLN MAR22-1. Yes. Okay. So, ma'am, if you just said. PLN MAR22-01. Yep. Smooth and easy. Smooth and easy. All right. I'm for that. And Mr. Poehler, you still second that motion? All right. Mr. Chair, I know that you have shifted from this portion of the presentation. We do have one individual raising their hand now. Withdraw your motion. I withdraw the motion. Okay. All right. Mr. Steen, we have promoted you to a panelist. You may start your video and unmute yourself to address the planning commission. Christine, we have promoted you to a panelist. You may start your video and unmute yourself. Okay, am I on now? Yes, ma'am. You are unmuted. If you'd like to start your video. okay we'll start my video this is so technical i have never been on a zoom looking like this so what do i click okay i click there okay i clicked on my video so i'm assuming i've done something here okay sorry take a while well anyhow i've been listening and it's fascinating and you know we followed the development of this park for a long time and i think it's going to be a beautiful one. I'm a president in the historic neighborhood, Woodward Heights neighborhood. So, you know, we're very concerned because we're pretty close to all that's going on here right now. It's going to be lovely. But the one thing that is of real concern to us right now, I think, especially if there's going to be 6,000 soccer players in the other end, too, is there's going to be an awful lot of traffic on High Street. And from now that the main entrance will be moving from Main Street to High Street. And I couldn't quite see, and it didn't sound to me like there is a real clear plan yet how the cars are going to be around there. I see the bridge and I see the pedestrians coming in there. But it's a pretty tight little spot. And, you know, not too far away from there, we have named the curve Dead Man's Curve because that's where we've had four fatalities this year and people running into houses and this and that and if more things are going to happen over at the Roperina parking place it's going to be a very very very busy street so I think it's looks good on paper but I think it's very important to see the size of that traffic that's coming in through that entrance and one thing I mean I know you don't own the land under Oliver Lewis yet but possibly there could be one other loop coming in with more entrance from that end into the park because right now that's kind of a really tight spot on high street from what it looks like to me when i see these things and i just know in reality you know it's very small and we have a lot of accidents around that area anyhow yes something to think about because it's going to be such a lovely thing and i just you know i mean we know we want people to walk and bike from everywhere but we also know that's not what everybody does everybody wants to come close and park and we are going to probably apply for residential parking permits in our own neighborhoods on these two streets here because they're going to be jam-packed with people all the time so just want to raise that issue into the general part of other things to think about. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. No, sir. I do not see any other members. All right. Now I'm going to make sure I'll be mindful of the citizens. So we'll try this again. Move this poison out. I'm good for approval of PLN and AR-2201 Town Branch Park, Inc. A petition for the zone map amendment as outlined. Okay. We have a motion. We have a second. Second. Second by Mr. Poe. Any further discussion to that motion? All in favor, please raise your hand. Okay. Motion passes unanimously. Now we have the development plan. And Mr. Chair. I guess. I was going to. I got it. I'm moving. I'm moving. Mr. Chair, I pray for JDE 2207, Town Branch Park. If you address this located in the handout, would you revise how many conditions? It's going to be 17 conditions. We're removing 18 and 16 remove, discuss, and say resolve at the time of the propelment plant, and 17 remove, discuss, and say replace that with resolve. access to West High Streets at the time of the final development plan. With the conditions as stated by the chairs. Okay, we have a motion. Do we have a second to that motion? Second by Mr. Pohl. Second. Further discussion? Larry, I want to know that to be sure we say this is a preliminary development plan. Yes, this is for the preliminary development plan. Thank you, Mr. Penn. Thank you. On the record. We have a second by Mr. Pohl. All in favor, please raise your hand. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you, African. Thank you very much for your consideration. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. To put us on page 5, PLNMAR, that's 22, that's 3. Yes, sir. And I do want to say that Mr. Jimmy Emmons is nothing but a regular guy. He is on our call right now as well. Go ahead and share my screen. Start my presentation. This is PLNMAR 22-00003 for Prop Co. North Broadway Lexington KY LLC. The applicant is seeking to rezone a portion of 2143 North Broadway from the interchange service business or the B5P zone to a planned neighborhood residential zone for approximately 6.022 net acres. As you can see, there is a large portion of gross acreage involved in this. That will be kind of a little clearer as we get into some of our other mapping. The applicant is seeking to place this under the enhanced neighborhood place type with a medium density residential development type in an effort to adaptively reuse the established hotel as an assisted living facility. Involved with this assisted living facility is a discussion of a conditional use, which will be described following the presentation of the development plan by Mr. Mark. The proposed facility is seeking to retain their indoor pool while enhancing outdoor recreation facilities and eliminating impervious areas. The proposed development is seeking to include 139 one-bedroom dwelling units at a residential density of approximately 20 dwelling units per net acre. Before I get too far along, there is one letter of concern that has been printed out and handed to those in the room and then has been added into the citizen comment file within the Google Drive. We are located out north Broadway just before we hit Paris Pike. This property is located just along the 6475 interstate located right here. And as you can see, there is quite a bit of white. This is including the right-of-way. As with all zone changes, we extend the zoning to the center line of the roadway. So there are no areas of our community that lack zoning. So in this case, they are including the on-ramp and off-ramp for this site, which extends their zoning quite a bit. But for the purpose of our rezoning, we are really looking at the property itself or the portion thereof that is currently zoned B5P. For this area, there is a host of different zoning that is primarily separated between the commercial activities and the residential activities. Along North Broadway, on the north side of North Broadway, we see the commercial activities, the B5P zoning, as well as the highway service business zoning or the B3 zoning. As we shift away from the north side of North Broadway, we transition into the neighborhood and the residential development that has occurred over time. This is primarily along Judy Lane as we extend back into the neighborhood and Circle Drive connecting over with Parkside Drive. Across the way, North Broadway, these properties are primarily facing in on Old Paris Road rather than interacting with the corridor at this location. Jumping into the aerial photography, we have a better view of the site itself, as well as the residential land uses that have developed over time. The subject property, as you can see, is that current Ramada Inn Hotel with more highway service type businesses up on the roadway, including a general store and then a gas station. We do have the Waffle House at this location. with a proposed B3 development here, and then the residential development moving back along the local and collector streets. As you can see, the large portion of the roadway associated with the interstate at this location. With all zone changes, we are looking to evaluate any proposed development against the place builder. In this case, the applicant is seeking to situate this within the enhanced neighborhood place type. This is an existing residential area that is to be enhanced with new amenities or housing types. In this case, the applicant is reorienting much of their activity towards Judy Lane while maintaining that connection to the corridor of North Broadway. Since the applicant is trying to provide a residential type and is tying more into the residential area, the staff and the applicant agreed that the enhanced neighborhood would be the more appropriate place type in this area. associated with their development, the applicant is requesting to place this under the medium density residential development type. Within the development types, this specific density is primarily attached and multifamily units. While the assisted living facility itself is a conditional use, it is considered a dwelling as well as multifamily dwelling, specifically at this location. The type of structure that is at this location slopes from a single-story structure down into a four-story structure. This fits the characteristics of the medium-density residential that is described within the comprehensive plan, and staff is in agreement that this would be a medium-density residential development type. Finally, the applicant is seeking to rezone this property to the R3 or the planned neighborhood residential zone. This is matching the portion of the property at the rear of the property that was rezoned previously. It is a recommended zone within this place type and development type and can be considered appropriate so long as the applicant is seeking to meet a lot of the development criteria within the comprehensive plan. Jumping into the site itself, in this top center photo, we are looking at the front of the Ramada Inn. This is one of the major kind of focal points of this area and is the access point for the whole of the development at this point in time. On the left most photo, you see North Broadway as it is transitioning into Paris Pike. You can see the Waffle House on the right, there are pedestrian facilities along the frontage of the general store that is on the corner. This is somewhat abnormal for a lot of our arterial roadways, as the edge of the roadway is often considered the pedestrian facility. We would like to see a little bit more of this, and the applicant is proposing some greater pedestrian infrastructure with their development. On the bottom center photo, you are looking into the site, as well as the access point that is shared with the BP gas station off to the south in this location, photo left. And then on the rightmost photo, we are looking down North Broadway towards downtown. now. Associated with this site is the frontage along Judy Lane. Judy Lane on the top left, that is, we're looking as it is going out towards North Broadway. On the right, this is a photo of the frontage of the property. You can see that white plastic fence that would be removed with the development of this property as an assisted living facility. And then also just the roadway as we move into the neighborhood. One of the aspects of this roadway is that it is lacking pedestrian facilities along the portion of this property. That is an important aspect with any rezoning and any kind of change in the property that we are trying to make sure that we are providing the best facilities to not only the potential users of the property, but for the broader neighborhood to create a greater amount of connectivity between the neighborhood and some of our more intense commercial developments. On the bottom photo, again, this is a fairly good photo of what the site looks like in its current state. The acronym will, and Mr. Martin, will discuss what will be removed as well as what will be added with this proposed development. But I think this photo also provides you a fair amount of view of the treed area along the edge of this property. During early conversations about the use of this as the hotel, there was a concern by the neighborhood to keep those trees. And we all too often discuss the trees as being the best ones are the ones that are grown, that are really taking care of the environment to their fullest extent. We do love the planting of new trees, but we do want to preserve those trees that are in place and healthy at this point in time. I'll jump into this just so that I can steal a bit of Mr. Martin's thunder and point out that the applicant is seeking to remove a fair amount of the impervious surfaces on this site. You can see in several areas in which it's grayed out, that is previous areas of parking. The required parking associated with a hotel is much higher than the required parking associated with an assisted living facility. The applicant is doing a fair amount of other changes on the site, but I will leave much of that to the discussion of the development plan here shortly. One of the major characteristics was that pedestrian infrastructure associated with this proposed redevelopment. During the initial submission, there was no pedestrian facility. There has been a fair amount of conversation between the applicants, representatives, and staff from both the Division of Planning and Transportation and Engineering, as well as our bike and pedestrian planner, to see if there were ways to connect in the current pedestrian facilities with future pedestrian facilities. As the applicant is showing in their development plan, they are showing a connection, moving the pedestrian facilities onto their property and not along the right of way so that they can maintain the current drainage features and the trees that are located along the Judy Lane frontage. In review of this zone change, staff is recommending approval of this zone change from the B5P zone to the planned neighborhood residential zone in that it is in agreement with the plan's goals and objectives. The applicant is seeking to encourage the expansion of housing choice, converting or adaptively reusing an existing hotel to an assisted living facility, which will accommodate the demand for housing responsibly prioritizing that higher density and providing a new type of facility within this area that is lacking. The proposed rezoning will support that infill and redevelopment through that reuse of the property. The proposed rezoning minimizes the disruption of natural features, keeping many of those trees and reducing the impervious surfaces throughout this area, converting that parking into vegetated open space, and then incorporating a greater amount of green space and open space into this area, while also providing those safe pedestrian facilities along the Judy Lane frontage. The proposed rezoning will also allow for some creation of jobs and prosperity, as the proposed assisted living facility associated with the conditional use would generate more jobs than the current hotel. In terms of the development criteria, staff found that the applicant is in agreement with the development criteria through the site design, building form, and location, the pedestrian and transportation connectivity, and then the green space and environmental health. As with all zone changes, This is subject to the approval and certification of PLN MJDP 22-00010, Hospitality Motor Inns Incorporated, as amended, which Mr. Martin will discuss here shortly. With that, staff is available for any questions about the zone change, and we'd be happy to clarify anything that we have presented here today. Questions for staff? for half of the zoning piece. Thank you, Adam. And I will be back in just a moment with the additional use, but Mr. Martin has been developing. Mr. Martin. Mr. Chairman, members of the Planning Commission, here we have the color rendering of the final development thing that you see before you today and and this is interesting because this is a final development plan and not a preliminary development plan this is one of those circumstances where due to the relatively minimal changes to the site staff and the applicant are confident that they can get through the two-week review process for certification of this plan. And to that extent, I can tell you Declan has been working with the various sign-off agencies during this time period. Now, here is your primary access off of North Broadway. This is the existing access that comes in to serve the current the hotel as well as access to the dollar general store in this location and then we have a service station this location that is served here at this with a an access easement at this location as well a long time long time service station in this location i I think it's been there as long as the original hotel, as a matter of fact. Now, as they access in and with this island that's being placed here, it will allow traffic movement to come in, and circulate around and to the canopy and access the assisted living facility and then come on back out and again access North Broadway. In conjunction, they have added an access point to Judy Lang at this point. And this is very important. There are 135 units proposed in this assisted living facility, again, with a repurposed building. It is a two-story building. And with that number of units, it is absolutely necessary to have an additional access point for public safety vehicles, fire and ambulances to be able to access the property. As Hal mentioned, they reduced a lot of the parking areas to, they're only proposing 130 parking spaces. They're only required 120, so they're certainly not over-parking in any fashion. Much of the parking is in the areas where it currently exists. Again, they're going to repurpose much of that parking. Here in the rear, you see, this is a turnaround that they've added at the request of your fire department, your review, as they've been working, as I said, with that, with all the agencies involved. There's an internal pedestrian system, the sidewalks that you can see as well, accessing the building. And then they're going to have an interior courtyard plaza as they remove the old pool and some of the old facilities that were there for the hotel. And we've seen some proposals that they are contemplating developing a putting green and some other recreational facilities there for the residents. They, as Hal mentioned, you can see the sidewalk they're proposing along Judy Lane. This will be a public sidewalk located in an easement on their property, which will allow both residents, employees, and the public to utilize this facility as they walk along Judy Lane, should they so desire. There's going to be a sidewalk added, as you can see, bringing them out to North Broadway as well. Again, it's fairly straightforward in that they're repurposing the old hotel, which as Hal mentioned, is a good thing, returning it to economic fatality and being able to provide assisted living, a very needed housing type in our community and particularly in this area of our community, which is underserved. again fairly straightforward adaptation of the site the only conditions that remain because this is a revised plan that was brought in prior to your committee meeting because again yeah again i want to give them the credit they deserve have been working very diligently with staff to address address staff's concerns on this plan so again you can see that the conditions are strictly sign-off conditions, with one being discussed place builder criteria. That's number eight, which, of course, we have done today. And I will be happy to answer any... Well, pardon me. Well, yes, I'll answer questions you have on the development plan before I let Hal get back up here. Any questions on Mr. Penn? Are there any needed improvements going to be made to Judy Lane other than the sidewalk? No, sir. No, sir. That was one of the issues that we talked about. But the current drainage ditch, which is maintained by the government, because it's in the right of way, handles the drainage. And we were, staff was primarily concerned with the pedestrian access. And the fence is going to be removed for what reason? I believe they just don't desire to have it. And it's kind of a barrier that they don't deem as necessary. Okay, thank you. I have a question about the other fence, the one along the interstate. I believe that will remain. Well, my question is, is this going to include a memory care unit? They'll have to answer that. They have not informed us that that is the case. I mean, if you're wandering old people in my family, I'm a little concerned to make sure that whatever they've got planned there, they're going to have memory care, would prevent people from being able to access the interstate. That was put up when the train was constructed. It's not even theirs. They wouldn't be allowed to take that down. None of the design will make that easy. No, no. But they have not indicated to us that they have an active carry. Any further questions? Thank you. Al, additional use? Yes, sir. With all zone change cases, the Planning Commission is given the right to go ahead and look at both variances and conditional uses associated with that application. In this case, the applicant is seeking to establish an assisted living facility on this site. An assisted living facility means a residential facility other than a nursing home with multiple and separate living facilities, generally for persons who are 55 years of age or over. Included is meal services, laundry services, room cleaning, transportation, and or recreation may be provided on site. and some medical services exclusively for the residents of the facility. In this case, the applicant is seeking to apply this at the site. It is a primary component on how they are developing their site, specifically as Mr. Martin described with the parking. Within their letter of justification associated with this site, They did provide information regarding existing assisted living facilities in the Lexington market, as well as assisted living facilities in this area. Within their analysis, they saw that there is a lack of assisted living facilities for our community specifically in that we have an aging community that is actually at a higher rate of aging than some of the surrounding communities. They indicated that Lexington's elderly population is growing faster than the comparable U.S. markets at a 4.4 percent rather than a 3.9 percent for the broader area. They also noted a shortage of between 320 and 740 needed units for Lexington exclusively. The applicant did note several aspects of the comprehensive plan that this would fall into, specifically calling out Theme A, Pillar 3, Policy 7, which gets into the need of assisted living facilities and community housing facilities that are targeted at our aging population. Staff agrees that the proposed assisted living facility of greater than eight individuals would provide a needed facility in the area and would not adversely affect the subject or adjoining nearby properties. This recommendation of approval is made subject to several conditions. First, that the Urban County Council approves the R3 zone change. The development shall be constructed in accordance with this approved final development plan, should the Planning Commission approve this. And then all necessary permits should be obtained by the divisions of Planning, Traffic, Engineering, Engineering, and Building Inspection. And then finally, that the action be noted on the development plan for the subject property. So staff is recommending that this assisted living facility be approved for this location. With that, I can go ahead and stop sharing. And if you have any questions about the assisted living conditional use request, I'd be happy to answer those now. Any questions for Al? Thank you. Bring up the applicant. Scott. Scott. Scott. Yes, sir. My name is Scott Southall. I'm with Earth Cycle Design. I'm representing the applicant in this petition for the zone change and for the approval of the final development plan with the conditional use. We have been, as noted by staff, working diligently to address the concerns of not only the staff, but of the surrounding property owners as best we can. Given the situation that we're basically looking at the redevelopment of an existing facility, the addition that you see in the graphic, and we can pull that back up if you'd like, represents the memory care unit and there is a enclosed fence for the memory care unit itself with separate access points from the that wing that we're referring to that is wing c of the the plan um if you want how you're going to pull that are you pulling that back up Would you like me to, sir? Sure. That would be probably helpful just to give an explanation. So, yes, that's the memory care wing. And you see that there is a fence that delineates the courtyard for the memory care and with access points off of the wings, the C wing. The indoor pool area is going to remain and become part of their therapy. That's why we have a secondary entrance that's outside of that fenced area. And then the interior courtyard will have improvements done to have universal accessibility from the other wings being B and A wing for the residents to access. Well, we have been, again, as staff mentioned, working diligently with traffic engineering, engineering, and bike ped to come up with a workable solution. And we think that we have that with the pedestrian sidewalk along Judy Lane that actually will basically be on the backside of the existing drive and parking area. We believe this is a workable solution in that it not only addresses the pedestrian access, but also will hope to ensure as many of the trees that are along Judy Lane remain. remain. Again, there may be some that will have to be removed for the entrance, and there are some that are in poor condition that we would remove as a part of the redevelopment process, but we've also noted the number of additional trees that we'll be adding will be significant to the property, and within regards to stormwater and stormwater management we understand that adjoining to the rear of the property or where the existing r3 zone is there is an lfucg stormwater water quality quantity project and we have been in contact with water quality about that project and to ensure that you know we are reducing the amount of impervious area and reducing the amount of stormwater runoff from the property. With that I will just say that we are in concurrence with staff's recommendations for approval with the conditions and we'll happily entertain any questions further questions you may have regarding the project. Any questions for Mr. Safford I'm not necessarily. We have a list there on. I'll be ready to ask if there's any. Okay. Thank you, Scott. Before we move forward, though, I would like to ask if there are any citizens that are on this call that would like to speak either for or against this particular agenda item, please do so by raising your hand via Zoom. All the commission members have a copy of the letter of opposition, correct? Yes, sir. Okay. So we'll bring it back to the commission. Any further discussion? I think we just as an opposition, more of a concern that needs to be addressed. It doesn't move you're asking. It does. It doesn't move you're asking. I'm not seeing any. Ms. Ward, would you like me to? Well, so, yeah, this person has asked to alleviate traffic congestion, so I guess I would ask on her behalf, do we foresee a significant problem with traffic congestion? And is there a plan to address that? So, ma'am, the applicant is showing two points of access, both to North Broadway and Judy Lane. In the earliest design of this site, there was a gated area along North Broadway that would have only been accessed with emergency services. In this case, the applicant has removed that gate, provides for a little bit more distribution of traffic. However, when staff initially reviewed this, Judy Lane specifically at this location is able to handle the traffic associated with a development of this type. There will be some increase of traffic onto this site from Judy Lane, but there are alternative access points, and Judy Lane is built to allow for some of this to occur on site. And Mr. Martin might have another thing that he would like to ask. Just as a little bit of education and context, this area, a lot of the traffic congestion in this area that the residents are concerned about is historic, based on the fact that North Broadway was rebuilt, realigned in this area. You have some short distances between the stoplights. And, of course, you have Old Paris Road, limestone extended that comes up under the railroad. right there. So yes, there are some traffic issues on North Broadway due to some existing conditions, but this shouldn't aggravate those. Thank you, guys. Ms. Barkley, you okay? I just don't ignore anyone else has any questions, statements, concerns? we'll close this portion out and the floor is open for a motion mr chairman yes sir do you want to include the conditional use or do you want that to be a separate motion i think we have to do it separately so we have three motions here okay sir if you're ready i'll be glad to do one i'm ready unless someone says otherwise if not mr chairman i move for approval of pln mar 22 3 popcorn north broadway election in kentucky for the reasons provided by staff we have a motion do we have a second second second by mr pole any further discussion to that motion All in favor, please raise your hand. Okay, moving on to the development plan. You want to do the development plan, then the condition we're used? Yes, sir. Okay, all right. I move for approval of PLN-MJDP-2210, Hospitality Motor Inn, with the eight conditions. I think we're going to delete number 8. Okay. You want to delete the discussion of place building? We've already had that. Okay. Correct. Yes, sir. With the seven conditions, how's that? All right. Thank you. We have a second to that motion. Seconded by Ms. Meyer. All in favor, please raise your hand. Motion passes unanimously. And thirdly, I move to approve the conditional use request for the zone change. We have a second. Second by Ms. Worth. All in favor, please raise your hand. Motion passes to the next. Thank you. Thank you, African. Thank you, staff. If I may, I'd like to just make a comment. And I think that this is, I appreciate seeing this reuse of this property. I think it's a good project for Lexington. I appreciate the applicant doing this. Good point. Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Commission members. And thank you, staff, for working with us on this. Thank you, sir. Thank you. That brings us up to commission items. Yes, sir. we have a cancellation of upcoming meeting to be the March 31st 2022 work session I will need a motion to cancel that meeting Mr. Chairman I move we cancel the March 31st work session meeting so you can work on your gym time so you can compete in next year's next year's contest? One for a different reason. I'm not going to say anything. I think Mr. Mickler had saw and he didn't want me to take that picture. Are you saying you don't need any work? No, we always need some work. One of those work. Frank, ask me one of those guys, you, and that picture was much. Yeah, right. I avoided that. I saw him, but I didn't want to be taking pictures. You didn't want to take a picture? Nope. I was? They were. Yeah, they were on TV a lot. They were still kind of motion on the floor. I know. Mr. Mickler had seconded it. He raised his hand. Okay. All in favor, please. Okay, motion passes. Mr. Duncan? Mr. Chairman, I have a question. Yes, sir. Mr. Davis? I was so impressed by the staff and our work session last week. I thought it was an excellent use of time. I know that with comp plan coming up, there are so many entities under the purview of the planning commission. I think it'd be a good idea if we had some updates from all of these entities, maybe not all of them, but the larger ones, the more pressing ones when it comes to the comp plan. I think if we could start by inviting the PDR, the Rural Land Management Board Chair, Gloria Martin, to a meeting to just give this body an update on what she's doing and then try to replicate that with whatever the staff feels are the largest, most relevant bodies that we are going to be reviewing and looking at and studying over the next year and a half. Mr. Duncan, how do you feel about that? Is that something that we can do as a commission? Thank you, Mr. Chair. The PDR board is supposed to give an annual report to the Planning Commission anyway, and they did not schedule that for 2021. so I would say that we certainly have an official willingness to invite the PDR board to present to us at any time and certainly we would like to hear that annual report but Mr. Davis we'd also certainly be happy to hear from them about their concerns as well for the comprehensive plan and I would say Mr. Chair that if the planning commission would share with us any of those types of boards that they would like to hear from, that we can certainly tell you either how we are interacting with them as a staff or how we can get that information to you during this update process. So we certainly want to make sure you all have all of the updates from across the community that you need as we go into the goals and objectives. But it also may be that some of them are participating with us in various ways to provide direct input. So we'd be happy to share with you who we've talked to, and you can certainly let us know who you'd like to hear from. Thank you, Mr. Duncan. I suppose can staff initiate that request of maybe through Ms. Overman and the PDR office of having Ms. Martin visit? Just sort of give everybody an update and a refresher on what they do and how they do it and where everything comes from. We'd be happy to do that, Mr. Davis. Thank you, Mr. Duncan. Anything else you would like to tell us? Yes, Mr. Chair, just to, in addition to, you all have just canceled the work session. And by the way, as a reminder, that was a bonus work session. So on fifth Thursdays, we schedule those, you know, sometimes a year in advance. At this time, it just did not, we just did not need to do that. Plus it's spring break next week. So we hope you all can take a break. I'm afraid you won't get much of a break once we get started in the comp plan later this spring. But to remind you, we will see you all again on Thursday, April the 7th for your committees, subdivision at 830 and zoning at 130. We are back live and in person for those meetings. We will no longer be on Zoom, or at least at this time we won't be. Tracy, I believe we had those scheduled for the third floor. Is that right? The agenda says we're all in person. We're all in person. Is that going to be on the third floor rather than the seventh floor? Is that right? Yes, sir. All meetings are going to be held in person on the third floor of the Phoenix building. I apologize for the screw-up on this. I am far lesser an admin specialist than most. So these will be held third floor of the Phoenix building in our main room there. And that is just the committee. So then the meeting and the hearing for April will be back in the council chambers and the work session on the third floor. So committees and work session on the third floor, subdivision meeting and zoning hearing in the council chambers as ordinary. And, of course, if you have any questions, you're welcome to reach out to us. We'll be happy to help clarify and make sure everybody knows where they need to be and when they need to be there. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Can we mute Mr. Ben so he can't say anything else? Mr. Ben, unfortunately, I think you muted yourself. I don't want to hear what he's got to say. Does anyone have anything else to say before we adjourn this meeting? Okay. Everyone have a good weekend, and we'll see you in soon. About two weeks. Yeah, two weeks. Thank you.