# Planning Commission Zoning Public Hearing - September 22, 2022 > Auto-transcribed civic record · September 22, 2022 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/5648 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/5648?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2022-09-22 - **Last revised**: September 22, 2022 - **Length**: 4,910 words > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** Audio from the official Granicus video was auto-transcribed with OpenAI's open-source Whisper large-v3-turbo model, run locally by The Lexington Times. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude. Verbatim wording may contain errors. See [methodology](https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/about/methodology) or [report a correction](mailto:editor@lexingtonky.news). --- ## Meeting Overview The Urban County Planning Commission convened on September 22, 2022, at 1:30 PM in the Council Chamber on the 2nd Floor of the LFUCG Government Center at 200 East Main Street in Lexington, Kentucky, with Larry Forester presiding. The commission addressed two agenda items during the session, including postponements and withdrawals of certain matters and a zoning amendment proposal. The commission took two votes during the meeting and heard one public comment. The primary accomplishment was the approval of an amendment to Article 23A-9 that would permit hotels and motels in the Community Center (CC) zone, representing a significant change to the city's zoning regulations for that district. ## Attendance The following individuals were present at the meeting on September 22, 2022: • Larry Forester • Zach Davis • Larry Forrester • Bruce Nicol • Robin Michler • Mr. Penn • Mr. Pohl • Anthony de Movellen • Judy Worth **Absent:** • Ivy Barksdale No members arrived late to the meeting. *Note: The attendance records show two similar names listed as present - "Larry Forester" and "Larry Forrester" - which may represent a clerical variation in the meeting minutes.* ## Votes and Decisions The meeting included two formal votes on zoning text amendments. **PLN-ZOTA-22-00008 - Stadium Amendment Postponement** [timestamp: 03:00] Zach Davis motioned to postpone the amendment that would allow stadiums in the Economic Development (ED) zone, with Mr. Pohl providing the second. The motion to postpone passed unanimously with 11 ayes and 0 nays. All members present voted in favor of postponement: Larry Forester, Zach Davis, Larry Forrester, Bruce Nicol, Robin Michler, Mr. Penn, Mr. Pohl, Anthony de Movellen, and Judy Worth. **PLN-ZOTA-22-00002 - Hotels/Motels in Community Center Zone** [timestamp: 15:00] Anthony de Movellen motioned to approve the amendment permitting hotels and motels in the Community Center (CC) zone, seconded by Bruce Nicol. The amendment passed unanimously with 11 ayes and 0 nays. The same nine members voted in favor: Larry Forester, Zach Davis, Larry Forrester, Bruce Nicol, Robin Michler, Mr. Penn, Mr. Pohl, Anthony de Movellen, and Judy Worth. The approval included the condition that it was "for reasons provided by Staff." Both votes demonstrated unanimous support from the 11 members present, with no opposition or abstentions recorded for either item. ## Public Comment During the public comment period, one speaker addressed the board regarding stadium development in the Economic Development zone. **Brittany Roethemeier** spoke at [timestamp: 04:00] to address the postponement of stadiums in the Economic Development zone. Roethemeier thanked everyone who attended the meeting to voice their opposition to the proposed stadium development in the ED zone. Her comments focused on acknowledging community participation in opposing the stadium project. The public comment period was brief, with only one speaker participating in this portion of the meeting. ## Contested Items The meeting featured one significant contested item that generated community opposition and ultimately led to a postponement of the proposed measure. **Amendment to Allow Stadiums in Economic Development Zone** An amendment was proposed to modify zoning regulations to permit stadiums within the Economic Development zone. The proposal encountered substantial resistance from community members, though specific details about the nature of their concerns were not detailed in the available materials. The community opposition proved significant enough to influence the proceedings. Rather than proceeding with a potentially divisive vote, the item was indefinitely postponed. This postponement was attributed to the applicant's decision to reconsider their approach and explore alternative options in response to the community feedback. The indefinite postponement suggests that the opposition raised substantive concerns that warranted further consideration by the applicant before moving forward with the zoning amendment. This outcome demonstrates the impact of public input on municipal decision-making processes, particularly regarding land use and zoning matters that can significantly affect local communities. The resolution of this contested item through postponement rather than a formal vote indicates an attempt to find a more collaborative path forward that might better address community concerns while still potentially meeting the applicant's objectives through alternative approaches. ## Postponements and Withdrawals [timestamp: 03:00] The meeting addressed several requests for postponements and withdrawals of agenda items. Key speakers during this discussion included Dick Murphy, Zach Davis, and Mr. Pohl. The primary focus of the postponements and withdrawals discussion centered on an amendment related to allowing stadiums in the Economic Development zone. This particular item was subject to a request for indefinite postponement, indicating that the proposal would be shelved without a specific timeline for future consideration. The speakers deliberated on the various postponement requests, weighing the merits of delaying certain agenda items versus proceeding with scheduled discussions. The decision-making process involved consideration of factors that would warrant postponing items rather than addressing them during the current meeting session. Following the discussion among Murphy, Davis, and Pohl, the outcome resulted in the postponement of the relevant agenda items. The indefinite postponement of the stadium amendment in the Economic Development zone was among the items that would not proceed to further consideration during this meeting. This agenda item demonstrates the procedural aspects of municipal governance, where items can be deferred or withdrawn based on various circumstances, timing considerations, or the need for additional preparation before formal review and potential action by the governing body. ## Amendment to Article 23A-9 to permit hotels/motels in the Community Center (CC) [timestamp: 15:00] The commission considered agenda item V.C.1, an ordinance amendment to Article 23A-9 that would permit hotels and motels as uses in the Community Center (CC) zoning district. The proposed change would move hotels and motels from prohibited uses to principal primary uses within this zone. Key speakers during the discussion included Hal Baillie, Mr. Pohl, Mr. Penn, and Darby Turner. The commissioners reviewed the zoning amendment and its implications for development within the Community Center district. The amendment represents a significant policy shift for the Community Center zone, as it would allow hospitality uses that were previously not permitted in this district. By reclassifying hotels and motels as principal primary uses rather than prohibited uses, the change would enable these types of commercial accommodations to be developed within the CC zone boundaries. Following discussion among the commissioners and input from the identified speakers, the commission approved the amendment to Article 23A-9. This approval will allow hotels and motels to be established in the Community Center zone, expanding the range of permitted commercial uses in this zoning district. The ordinance amendment will need to follow the standard municipal approval process before taking effect and being incorporated into the official zoning code. --- ## Decisions - **PLN-ZOTA-22-00008** — postponed (11-0): Postponement of amendment to allow stadiums in the Economic Development (ED) zone - **PLN-ZOTA-22-00002** — passed (11-0): Amendment to permit hotels/motels in the Community Center (CC) zone --- ## Full transcript So not only do you just give stipends incentives, but then you also have coaches that help people to continue to stay on the right path and do what it takes to maintain consistent employment. We really do, and our coaches are very dedicated to the process. They have a lot they do with clients from the beginning. As soon as they're available to start working with them, and they've had enough of our programs, they will continue to work through that reducing barrier process so that they can get the first job, continue getting additional skills and support, whether it's in our Goodwill stores or whether it's out in the community. They'll do either one, depending on their interests and what they'd like to accomplish. and then they'll continue to work with them for a better job, an even better job than the first one we got. Well, it sounds like the services that you have here are great. It sounds like you are looking for more partnership opportunities. Absolutely. And if somebody is watching this and they may be nervous or think that this program isn't for them, what can you say to encourage them to come and see what you have to offer? Well, we want to make everyone feel at home here in the Opportunity Center to make them feel comfortable. We welcome everyone. We have good hot coffee all throughout the day. We provide snacks. And in some of our programs, we even provide meals as a part of that. On our Soft Skills Academy, it's all day long, one day. So that day, they'll get a lunch provided as well. So we have so many wraparound services and can help them through the entire process from when they walk in the door to the time that they can get their first job and then even after that for up to a year with our coach support. Okay. Okay, so not only do you have incentives, you got good hot coffee and you got great snacks. We do. So if you're interested, please come out and see what Goodwill has to offer. And thank you, Jennifer, for everything that you and Goodwill does for our community. Thank you. Appreciate it. Yes, ma'am. Thank you for joining us. I'm First District Councilman James Brown, and today I'm here with Timothy Johnson, President and CEO of United Way of the Bluegrass. Thank you for joining me, Timothy. Thank you for having me, Councilmember. Hey, as we come out of the pandemic, one of the things that is most important is helping folks get back to work and eliminate some of the barriers or pathways to career opportunities. And the United Way's Waypoint Center, I think it's new to our area, but it's not new to United Way or to you. Can you tell us a little bit about the Waypoint Centers and kind of what the focus of those centers are? Absolutely. So the Waypoint Center, we consider that our collective impact approach. So what does that mean, collective impact? It's a way of getting different organizations to row their oars in the same direction. That way we get to our destination quicker, better, and faster. Specifically, the waypoint, if you think about the name, it's obviously a play on United Way's name, waypoint. But think about it in terms of the map and, like, imagery of a map. Your waypoint isn't your destination. It's a point. It's a stopping point, specifically. And this is a stopping point for many of our fellow Lexingtonians, our community members, to stop off, collect themselves, gather the resources necessary to get to the destination that they have chosen for themselves. And United Way's Waypoint Centers are really meant to be these community-based one-stop shops where folks can stop in, get the resources they need to make it to their destinations. Oh, that's a good analogy of what it is that you're doing at these centers and kind of how it builds into the total mission and the total effort to give people the resources and the access to resources to help them be more self-sufficient and supportive. So I mentioned that the Waypoint Centers are new to Lexington. Can you tell us about the locations that you have now and kind of how they're doing as far as servicing the community? Certainly. So we've launched our Waypoint Centers back in July 1st of 2021. So they've all been in operation now for just over 12 months. We have two, excuse me, we have three, two in Lexington, one here at the Black and Williams Center, and we have another one located in the Charles Young Center, East End, which I know you're very familiar with. Very, very familiar. We also have a third one that's at the Paris YMCA in Bourbon County. And the idea around these centers is we want to replicate more of them, maybe about five to six of them over the next several years, both in Lexington and other regional communities around Central Kentucky. Okay, okay. So tell me a little bit, like if somebody's watching this, and we're going to share information on the screen for folks to get in contact, If they're intimidated about coming to a waypoint center or not really sure what to expect, can you tell them or set them at ease about coming in and what to expect when they first arrive? Absolutely. So everyone's welcome at the waypoint centers. United Way's job is to fight for the education, the financial stability, and the health of everyone in our communities. Particularly, we've set up these waypoint centers strategically in communities that we know have not been invested in to the extent that we'd like to see over the years. So these waypoint centers are meant to be here to help build resiliency, build resources for our community members. So walking through the doors, you can expect to find United Way staff. Here at this particular center, here at the Black & Williams, you'll see Ms. Jerry Botts, who is our director of waypoint centers, just recently promoted. Also at the Charles Young Center, you'll find Mr. Damon, who is the center manager there, who will be more than happy to hear what your needs are. Now, oftentimes, people come in with the thing that their hair is on fire about. You know, hey, I need a crib for my child. And that's great. We can make sure that you have that. But their jobs are to sort of tease out from you what are some of the other problems going on, what are some of the other challenges and needs that you may have. And you may sort of peel back that onion a little bit and find out that maybe you lack access to health care or you have health insurance but don't know that certain things are paid for with your health insurance. Or maybe you don't have proper income and you're in need of some job readiness services, you need a new resume, you need some interviewing skills, or a better job. You can get that all here at the Waypoint Center without having to run around town, having several appointments and having to figure out for yourself where do I go. So this is really meant to, and I affectionately consider Jerry and Damon our air traffic controllers for the waypoint centers. Their jobs are to understand the communities, the needs of the community members, and to make sure that if the services aren't taking place in the waypoint centers, that they're going to connect with nonprofits close by so that your needs are met. So by the time you leave, yeah, you'll have that crib, but you'll also have access to things that you didn't know you needed, and that gets more to the root cause of why you came through the door to begin with. Well, I think that's reassuring, and that's good to know. I think a lot of folks in the community, I know Damon and I know Ms. Jerry, and I think a lot of folks are familiar with her and the work that she's done and is doing, and I think it's reassuring when they come in and they see a familiar face. And then it also sounds like you provide wraparound services. Sometimes it's important to help people identify what their real needs are and get to some of the root causes. So it sounds like a waypoint center is providing direction and pointing the way to self-sufficiency on a lot of different levels. It absolutely is. We started off this work with the idea of mine, how can we help our students better achieve? We didn't want our students to just be in a state of surviving. We wanted them to thrive. And talking to, at the time, the superintendent of schools, Manny Calk, rest in peace, he asked, he said, hey, school students are our forte. We have really a good mandate of how to serve them. But the 17 hours that they're not in the schools, we really don't have a lot of direct control over that. So United Way, how can you partner to make the communities a little safer, make them a little bit healthier, and help the people in their lives? So we started to think, you know, by helping the adults, the grownups, the folks in our young people's lives are going to help them be able to arrive to school in a situation that's a little bit more stable and focus on being a school student. You don't have to worry about coming to school if you're hungry. You don't have to worry about issues of couch surfing because you don't have a stable place to lay your head at night. A lot of our students are suffering from forms of PTSD just from coming from impoverished situations. So how can we help alleviate some of that? We knew that we couldn't just focus on the student. We had to look at the adults and really serve this holistically. And these Waypoint Centers are really our sort of sneaky way of serving students. But by doing that, serving the entire community so we can get our students, allowing them to come to school, their best versions of themselves, and ready to thrive. Yeah. Now, I think that's important. And I think as many resources that we can give families to be self-sufficient and strong and supportive, I think it's going to support our whole community going forward. Absolutely. Yeah. So thank you, Timothy, for joining me, and thank you for all you do for our community and for the United Way. Thank you for being an outspoken advocate of the United Way and our Waypoint Centers, and we really appreciate the hard fight that you always have for Lexingtonians. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. . . . My God, okay. You ready Mr. Bell? You're waiting on it. Yeah, we was waiting on it. Good afternoon everyone. I'd like to call this meeting to order. It is September 22, 2022, it's now 1.30. Welcome to the Urban County Planning Commission Zoning Items Meeting. And first on the agenda, I'd like to ask for the approval of minutes, and that's the August 25, 2022 minutes. So the floor is open for a motion. Go ahead, Mr. Penn. Mr. Chairman, I move for approval of the August 25th minutes. I can't do this, I wasn't here, you got to do it. Second. Okay, we have a second by Mr. Pohl. Please vote via Granicus. I can't. You can't, you have this thing. Okay, thank you. Motion passes. Okay, next on the agenda item, any postponements and withdrawals? Mr. Murphy. Mr. Chairman, I'm Dick Murphy on page two, item two, PLNZOTA 22.8, amendment to Article 23A10 to allow stadiums in the economic development zone. I represent the applicant Anderson Communities. Lexington Sporting Club has informed us that they are looking at other options. They do not want to go forward with this location at this time. And we at Anderson Communities need to think this through and consider our options as well. So for that reason, I'm asking an indefinite postponement of this zoning text amendment. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Murphy. Back to the commission. The floor is open for a motion for the indefinite postponement. I got it. Zach, he got it. Okay, go ahead. Mr. Chairman, I move for indefinite postponement of PLN Zota 22-8. Okay, we have a motion on the floor, and we have a second by Mr. Pohl. Okay, any further discussion to that motion? Chair, may I make a comment regarding the postponement motion? It would be very brief. I just want to thank everyone that did come because we were made aware of the postponement so late this morning. We were not able to get the word out to the community about the same. So I just want to thank everyone here on the record. Thank the commission for their time and everyone who did make the time to show up today in opposition to this. Because I know it takes a lot to be down at City Hall at 1.30 on a Thursday. So I just want to thank everyone for that and just make everyone aware that because of the situation we were unable to make that more public. And we hope that in the future we'll be able to make that in a more timely way. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So we have a motion and a second. Please vote via Granicus. Okay, motion passes unanimously. So we put us on page two of the agenda. All right, hold your applause. Thank you. Do that outside. That's not necessary. Nope. Four or twice made notes. Yeah, but you get the big bucks. No, no. What's 10% of nothing? Four or twice made notes. That's what you tell the preachers. Somebody told me, hey, listen, I'm going to tell you. You tell me, I'm going to see you. Well, I could. One 30 is on instead of working for you. I will. You tell him that. I'll see him this Friday. Have you seen this Friday? Yeah, I think we've got a call meeting. We had ours last week. I wish he would step up and be a leader with our... Excuse me. Can we take them out? Ladies and gentlemen, we are still in a public hearing. Mr. Owens, could you step outside? Mr. Owens, can you step outside, please? I'm sorry. Thank you, Mr. Chair. We are now moving on to our only item on the agenda that is left for today. This is PLN Zota 22-00002, an amendment to the community center or the CC zone to allow hotels and motels. This would be an amendment to Article 23A-9, shifting hotels and motels from a prohibited use to a principal primary use. All other uses that are in the prohibited uses that are listed here are only listed because of the renumbering and the proposed removal of hotels and motels. This area was established with the creation of the EAMP, or the Expansion Area Master Plan, which was meant to provide a mix of different types of zoning and a blend of residential and commercial. The CC land use itself was meant to create an area of retail office residential and civic and cultural affiliations or institutions. The intent of the zone specifically called for a mixture of those residential and non-residential uses, as well as providing some open space and community serving type of developments, specifically focused on some of the residential neighborhoods that were established around what was meant to be the CC zone. Just to look at where the CC zones have been established and how they have changed, here we have the expansion area 2A, both the plan, in which you can see at one point in time, the CC zone was recommended for the areas that abutted a fair amount of residential development. This was one of the areas that has changed significantly since the establishment of the 1996 EAMP, in which the CC Zone, which was meant to be north of Polo Club Boulevard, was flipped and shifted to the southern side, up against the interstate. This actually went together with a zoning ordinance text amendment that allowed for some bigger box stores. This is where the Costco and the Cabela's stores are located. Another area of CC is in the expansion area 2B. This is one of our areas in which it is exactly where it was located and is primarily comprised of some more residential contexts. The expansion area 2C, again, it is located within kind of a denser area of residential within the plan. We are seeing the denser area of residential, but there were shifts in the locations of the roadways themselves. And then in the expansion area three, there was no proposed initial CC location. However, we do have some located just south of Providence Park Place. The initial allowable uses, there are many within the CC, including the five of the EAR3 and the added banquet facilities, which was a zoning ordinance text amendment. And then many of the special provisions. Everything in blue is representative of another text amendment that allowed for some flexibility to occur within the CC zone, specifically allowing larger big box store type developments like Costco, like Cabela's. There were actually two modifications to this section to allow for larger size buildings and multiple larger size buildings. So in review of the applicant's submission for this change to the CC zone, the applicant indicated that they were not seeking to modify those specific special provisions, which allowed for a dense, tight development outside of the big box standards, which they are only allowed to have two of within a certain size development. So it keeps it a low and compact type of development. They are seeking to integrate that use into an area that has developed as a little bit more commercial and in areas that aren't typically surrounded by the neighborhoods that were anticipated by the EAMP. And that change is really represented by the different zone changes and the shifts that were made from the EAMP in the past. And then it will also allow for the use of complementary developments to large zone categories and the land uses in the expansion areas. The applicant specifically calls out some of the large commercial development that has occurred right near what is now the CC developments, like the regional medical campuses and some of the major developments in the neighboring ED zoning. So staff is recommending approval of this zoning ordinance text amendment, as we do see that the community center and hotels can complement each other. It can allow for the inclusion of some transient populations that would both support the commercial activities while also supporting some of the more institutional activities like the hospitals in the area. It also provides for some facilities that allow for some complementary development per the comprehensive plan. So Theme C, Goal 1D, is really focused on providing amenities to tourists and other temporary business operations and providing them with a place to stay that can take advantage of some of the commercial developments in this area. And then finally, staff wanted to reiterate that these hotels and motels would not detract from the required 40% of the aggregated floor area that is dedicated to residential development within the CC zone. If you have any questions, staff would be happy to answer. Any questions for staff? Mr. Pol? Why were hotels and motels not initially included and what changed to make them included now? So in staff's review, the CC zone was really meant to be much like the neighborhood business zone, our B1 zone. In fact, many of the uses from that zone were transferred into the CC zone. The difference in this case is how the CC zone has developed. It has shifted from initial locations in which it was surrounded by residential development and was really meant to be that town center, but has now become more focused on areas that don't have true connections into neighborhoods. So there has been changes based off of where these have been located that have shifted the purpose and the utility of the CC zone. So in that case, staff is seeing that it would be appropriate and can be supportive of some of the commercial opportunities and the mixed use that is still promoted within that zone. Thank you. Mr. Bailey, my experience with the CC zone has been we don't get any residential in it, and it's still part of the requirement. So by putting the hotels in there, that's not going to encourage any residential. So what do we do to make CC more available for what they really intend for it to be? I mean, it's just another business zone if you're not careful. It will allow for some variety of commercial activities. We have seen a shift in a lot of our hotels in which they are located on the fringes of some areas that are more residential in nature. But this zone was meant to be a blend. We are seeing a greater amount of residential being constructed in our CC zone. In the expansion area 2A, which is off of Polo Club, we've seen a recent multifamily, affordable multifamily development occur there. And then we are also seeing some residential occur just north of that with some of the development that is occurring in that CC. So the residential has been the slower thing to come online, but we are starting to see it come back in. Do you think flipping the CC out there on Polo Club helped that or hurt that? From what we have seen with the establishment of the big box and the initial perspective of the EAMP, it took it away from the neighborhood. So there was meant to be that transition from a neighborhood into a mix, into a downtown centralized perspective of a town square. By shifting that away from the neighborhood, it made it a little harder within the Polo Club area. thought you put the road on the other side of the residential yes thank you okay zena thank you applicant mr thank you mr chair and members of the commission i'm darby turner representing uh representing Jason Justice, who is the applicant for this zone change, or Zota, excuse me. And the first area of the CC area that Hal showed to you in the area of Winchester Road and Man of War is where Mr. Justice's property is. We started, we're in total agreement with the staff, And we've gone through a very nice process with them as we tried to struggle on how to get a concept of a local inn, something not a cookie-cutter hotel type. And as we walked through that, we came upon the concept of rather than trying to tailor something special for this type of thing, what would the keeping the restrictions and land use requirements within the CC zone, could we accomplish that with what we wanted to do? And actually, we went through that exercise and discovered very, very nicely we can even add residential components to it, to your question, Mr. Penn. And it fits in instead of just a big square rectangular building. it is more of a village type local inn kind of flavor. So we came to a very nice result in not changing any of the requirements and so forth. We think it makes a lot of sense for all the reasons the staff addressed. I'll be happy to answer any questions that anybody might have. Any questions for the applicant? Not seeing it. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Is there any citizens that would like to speak on this particular application? All right. I'll bring it back to the commission then for, floor is open for a motion. Mr. DeMovla. Yes, Mr. Chair. I'll make a motion to approve PLN Zota 22-2, Amendment Article 23A-9. Okay. Thank you. We have a second by Mr. Nickel. Thank you, sir. Please vote via Granicus. Okay, motion passes unanimously. Thank you. All righty. 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