# Council Work Session - October 18, 2022 > Auto-transcribed civic record · October 18, 2022 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/5662 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/5662?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2022-10-18 - **Last revised**: October 18, 2022 - **Length**: 4,173 words - **Speakers**: Mayor > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** Audio from the official Granicus video was auto-transcribed with OpenAI's open-source Whisper large-v3-turbo model, run locally by The Lexington Times. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude. Verbatim wording may contain errors. See [methodology](https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/about/methodology) or [report a correction](mailto:editor@lexingtonky.news). --- ## Meeting Overview The Lexington-Fayette Urban County Council convened on October 18, 2022, at 3:00 PM in the Council Chamber at 200 E. Main St, Lexington, KY 40507, with Mayor Linda Gorton presiding. The meeting addressed five agenda items, including routine business and council reports. During the session, the council took three votes and heard one public comment on agenda-related issues. The meeting followed standard procedures with approval of the meeting summary and consideration of new business items, both of which were approved by the council. The session concluded with informational council reports before adjournment. ## Attendance The following members were present at the October 18, 2022 meeting: **Present:** • Kay • Moloney • Ellinger • J. Brown • McCurn • LeGris • Lamb • Sheehan • Kloiber • Worley • F. Brown • Baxter • Bledsoe • Reynolds **Absent:** • Plomin No members arrived late to the meeting. A total of 14 members were present and 1 member was absent. ## Votes and Decisions The meeting included three motions, all of which passed by voice vote. **Approval of Work Session Summary** [timestamp: 00:30] Ellinger made a motion to approve the work session summary from October 11, which was seconded by Baxter. The motion passed by voice vote with no opposition recorded. **Approval of New Business** [timestamp: 01:30] The Vice Mayor made a motion to approve new business, with Baxter providing the second. This motion also passed by voice vote without recorded opposition. **Memorandums of Understanding Motion** [timestamp: 10:30] Fred Brown made a motion to instruct the administration to work on memorandums of understanding with fire and corrections departments. Worley seconded the motion, and it passed by voice vote with no recorded opposition. All three votes were conducted as voice votes rather than roll call votes, so individual member positions were not formally recorded. No conditions or amendments were attached to any of the approved motions. ## Budget and Financial Actions The council addressed eight financial items totaling over $1.1 million in contracts and grants during the meeting. **Contracts Approved:** • **L1030-22**: Approved a $47,579 contract with Stryker for maintenance service of EMS stretchers and loading systems • **L1037-22**: Authorized a $120,000 contract with the University of Kentucky's Kentucky Transportation Center to develop an optimized model of snowplow routes for LFUCG • **L1040-22**: Approved a contract with Bluegrass Valuation Group, LLC and E. Clark Toleman for real estate appraisal services supporting the Sanitary and Storm Sewer Capital Improvement Programs • **L1045-22**: Authorized modifications to existing agreements with the Kentucky Department of Military Affairs, Division of Emergency Management for the Chemical Stockpile Emergency Preparedness Program (CSEPP) • **L1046-22**: Approved a $242,967 contract with Management Registry Inc. to provide support staff for the Chemical Stockpile Emergency Preparedness Program (CSEPP) • **L1047-22**: Authorized a $9,635 Professional Services Agreement with Angela Wallace for Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner services **Grant Acceptances:** • **L1044-22**: Accepted a $616,704 federal award from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services for the Barrier Free Re-Entry and Recovery Initiative (BFREE) • **L1048-22**: Accepted $144,461 in federal funds from the U.S. Department of Justice for equipment and technology investments for the Lexington Police Department The approved items support various city operations including emergency medical services, winter road maintenance, infrastructure improvements, emergency preparedness, public safety, and re-entry programs for formerly incarcerated individuals. ## Public Comment During the public comment period, one community member addressed the board regarding concerns about a pilot program under consideration. **Dottie Bean** spoke about a pilot program that had been discussed in a recent committee meeting [timestamp: 55:00]. Bean expressed concern about the lack of public awareness surrounding the program and emphasized the importance of conducting public hearings before any approval process moves forward. She advocated for greater transparency and community input in the decision-making process for this initiative. The public comment period provided an opportunity for community engagement on matters being considered by the board, with Bean's remarks highlighting the importance of public participation in municipal decision-making processes. ## Contested Items The meeting featured one primary contested item that generated community discussion and concern. **Memorandum of Understanding with Police** Fred Brown presented a proposal for establishing a memorandum of understanding with police, fire, and corrections departments aimed at improving recruitment and retention within these public safety sectors. The proposal drew significant community attention, with residents expressing both interest and concern about the potential agreement. The nature of the community opposition centered around questions regarding the specific terms and implications of such a memorandum of understanding. Community members sought clarification on how this agreement would function and what commitments it would entail for the municipality. While the extracted data indicates that Brown discussed the need for this memorandum and that it generated community response, the specific details of the opposition arguments, the names of community members who spoke against or in favor of the proposal, and the ultimate outcome of this agenda item are not provided in the available materials. The discussion represents a common municipal challenge where public safety recruitment and retention initiatives must balance operational needs with community concerns about police and corrections policies. Such memorandums of understanding typically involve resource sharing, training coordination, or mutual aid agreements between jurisdictions, though the specific scope of this proposal was not detailed in the extracted information. ## Public Comment - Issues on Agenda [timestamp: 00:00] The meeting opened with an opportunity for public comment on issues listed on the agenda. This standard agenda item allows community members to address the governing body regarding any matters scheduled for discussion during the meeting. No specific speakers, presentations, or comments were recorded during this portion of the meeting. The item served as an informational component, providing the required public participation opportunity as part of the meeting's formal proceedings. The outcome was informational, with the meeting proceeding to subsequent agenda items following the completion of the public comment period. ## Approval of Summary [timestamp: 00:30] The council considered approval of the summary from the October 11 work session. Council members Ellinger and Baxter participated in the discussion of this agenda item. The council voted to approve the summary of the October 11 work session without recorded debate or concerns raised during the meeting. **Outcome:** Approved ## New Business [timestamp: 01:30] The council addressed new business items during this portion of the meeting. The Vice Mayor and council member Baxter served as the key speakers for this agenda item. The new business items were presented as a resolution to the council for consideration and approval. While the specific details of the individual business items were not detailed in the available materials, the council proceeded with discussion and deliberation on the matters at hand. Following the presentation and any discussion that took place, the council voted on the new business resolution. The outcome was approval of the new business items as presented. The resolution format suggests these were formal matters requiring official council action rather than informational items or routine administrative business. ## Council Reports [timestamp: 02:00] Council members provided updates on various community activities and initiatives during the reports portion of the meeting. Multiple council members participated in sharing information with their colleagues and the public. The following council members delivered reports: • **Sheehan** - Provided updates on community matters • **Baxter** - Shared information on local initiatives • **Plomin** - Reported on ongoing projects • **McCurn** - Delivered updates on municipal activities • **Fred Brown** - Presented information on community developments • **LeGris** - Provided reports on local matters • **Moloney** - Shared updates on city initiatives • **Lamb** - Reported on community activities • **Reynolds** - Delivered information on ongoing projects • **J. Brown** - Provided updates on municipal matters • **Bledsoe** - Shared reports on local developments The council reports served as an informational session, allowing elected officials to keep their colleagues and the public informed about various activities, meetings, and initiatives they have been involved with throughout the community. This agenda item provided an opportunity for transparency and communication regarding the council members' work on behalf of their constituents. No formal action was taken during this portion of the meeting, as the reports were purely informational in nature. The extensive participation from eleven council members demonstrates active engagement in community affairs and ongoing municipal business across various areas of responsibility. ## Adjournment The meeting was formally adjourned by Baxter [timestamp: 60:00]. The adjournment motion was approved, bringing the proceedings to a close. No additional discussion or debate occurred regarding the adjournment of the meeting. --- ## Decisions - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approval of the work session summary of October 11 - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approval of new business - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Motion to instruct the administration to work on memorandums of understanding with fire and corrections --- ## Full transcript Sing, sing, you really Thank you. ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ Welcome everyone. It's three o'clock, so I'll go ahead and call to order the Lexington Fayette Urban County Council Work Session, October 18th, 2022. And we will open with public comment for issues on the agenda. Dottie, you're signed up, are you on the agenda or not an issue on the? Okey-doke, thank you. Next, there's no docket, no rezonings. So the next item is our approval of the work session summary of October 11th. Move to approve. Thank you. Council Member Ellinger and second by Council Member Baxter. Any questions, Council Members? All those in favor of approving, say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? All right, that motion passes. There are no budget amendments today. We do have new business. If I could have a motion to approve. Move approval. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Second by Council Member Baxter. If you have questions about new business, will you please log in? I see none, so all those in favor of approval say aye. Aye. Is anyone opposed? All right, that motion passes. There are no presentations or continuing business. Are you all signed up for council report? All right, you're ahead of the game. We're right there. Council Member Sheehan. Thank you, Mayor. First, I want to say thank you to Commander Murdoch for taking me on a ride-along on Friday evening so I could see our police department at work. I felt that all of the, I also want to say thank you to all of the officers that answered all my questions and shared their experiences with me. I appreciate all the efforts that have been made to respond to our community concerns with safety, particularly downtown. So I want to say thank you. That was a good experience for me. Also, related to LPD, I was wondering if I could ask Commissioner Hensley for some information. We had requested that the administration engage in negotiations with the memorandums of agreement with the FOP. And we hear that we have officers leaving and there are some pay discrepancies compared to other places. So I was wondering if it would be possible, just like we did with our comp study for other employees within government, to see some of that comparative data for the agencies that are around us. I think this would be helpful for us to evaluate any proposals that are coming forward, but then also it's a good thing for our public record. So I just wanted to see if that's possible. Thank you. And then finally, the Chevy Chase Street Fair is happening this weekend. That is at the business area on Euclid Avenue, and that's going to be from 3 to 9 p.m. so i hope i see some of you there thank you mayor thank you councilmember baxter thank you mayor um i wanted to thank our employees over at e911 for hosting me for a sit along this past weekend it was very informative and interesting to see how how things are behind the scenes there so i appreciate everyone's accommodating me last night council member Bledsoe and I hosted a safety forum in the ninth district and I wanted to thank everybody who attended I wanted to thank pastor bill bill bolt of southern heights baptist church commander Jackie Newman from police department officer bys towery we had a couple of others as well lieutenant Davis and commander Metcalf are there there as well divine chroma from in Lexington and Jeff Herron from our OP office. It was very informative and well received. So thank you for everybody that was there. And now I have some pictures of something really cool and fun. So our this past weekend in Utah, we sent a few of our firefighters to let me rephrase a few of our female firefighters to the firefighter challenge, the 2022 World Combat Challenge championships and our Lexington ladies firefighters Sarah McGill Chelsea Brown Michelle Spaner and Aaron Lucas are now our world champions they beat out a European all-star team there is a video circulating on social media and I was so impressed and got really hot just watching it but it's kind of like a relay race where they get to do all these obstacles and things i mean look at that look at the grit i love it um so i just wanted to give a huge congratulations to our ladies um for a job well done and thank you for representing our community on a world stage so thank you thank you mayor thank you councilmember plowman thank you mayor i wanted to make sure everybody noticed our little purple friend there sitting in front of our mayor that is part of domestic violence awareness week And this is the second year for that project. But also, this Thursday is the We're Purple Day for domestic violence, so please remember to do that. I think right now we all need to really pay attention to what's going on in our community with the large increase in domestic related homicides. And so many domestic violence incidents do not get reported out. not by the women or children or whatever. But also observers ought to be more active in that as well. So we're your purple on Thursday in respect and recognition of the awareness that should be taking place in our community. I also wanted to mention that last week was kind of a week that I spent with trees, which is a good thing. Friday we had at Cumberland Hill, it was a one-year anniversary of when we planted 770 trees. And so what we're going to do is every year on that same anniversary date, we're going to come back, and we had refreshments and really celebrated the trees. And then on Saturday morning, it was over to Glen Eagles, and we were planting a lot of trees. And then right after that, the hour later, that went over to Veterans Dog Park. And if you haven't been there, you all need to go there, not just because of the trees, but our donor that underwrote that park has these images of all of his dogs with their names on them around the fence. So it's really nice and kind of a cool project. And also now there's beautiful trees all around it, so it is a destination. So thanks to all who all participated. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member McCurn. Thank you, Mayor. Council Member Baxter, thank you for sharing those pictures. Congratulations to our firefighters on an excellent achievement. A few announcements. Starting on Thursday, October 20th at 6 p.m. at the Black & Williams Center, we'll be hosting our homeownership course. This is part two. we're hoping to have a series of at least four courses this this cycle and then kind of repeats this this class is going to be with code enforcement like the Kentucky Housing Corporation and we will hope to have an insurance agent as well discussing home repairs filing claims mortgage and loan forgiveness a lot more so please if you have any interest in joining or learning about home ownership or when you're in home ownership and some of the struggles that we go through please feel free to attend this course and also this Saturday from 1 to 5 along the Town Branch Trail behind Mary Haven neighborhood we'll have an art pop-up which it's a it's called sale on the trail there'll be artists crafters food vendors of all age and food vendors and for all ages selling their creations and I want to thank longtime Mary Mary Haven resident David Wu and his wife for coming up with this idea. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Great. Thank you. Council Member Fred Brown. Thank you, Mayor. I wanted to bring up the topic of the memorandum of understanding that we had agreed on through Council of asking the administration to look at a memo of understanding with the police, and I think we did that maybe six weeks ago. And we will be addressing that to some extent. I think we'll have a report out next Tuesday related to that memorandum of understanding. And having said that, we'll discuss in the budget. But the thing about it, however, when we look at this, we're really looking at public safety overall, and public safety involves two other divisions. which should be in our fund balance discussion when we enter next week. So, therefore, I would like to make a motion to instruct the administration to work on memorandums of understanding with fire and corrections to look at ways to improve recruitment and retention and bring back recommendations to the council. So moved. Second. I heard a second here. I heard a second there. There were several. council member Worley all right any discussion if you'll raise your hand please all right all those in favor say aye anyone opposed all right that motion passes did you have anything else okay very good thank you councilmember Lagree thank you mayor councilmember Plumman I wanted to pick up on When you're tree themed, I know this is new for me to talk about trees. I wanted to let everybody know that we have a big sticker contest going on, having to do with trees. It's the Lexington Loves Trees sticker contest. Now council members, there's a kids category and there's also an adults category. So if you know children who want to participate, if you want to participate, And I really want to encourage you to bring people along and get them involved. There's a website dedicated to the sticker contest. It's lexingtonky.gov forward slash sticker contest. And we're going to have voting and winners will be chosen from both categories. Submissions opened during for Tree Week, October 8th. And submissions will close on November 30th. And then the top ten will be selected by January 31st. And then voting will open from there. So our winner will be determined in March. I know that's a long timeline, but I just, I want you to have enough time to spread the word and to engage yourselves if you'd like. So this is a fun thing, Lexington really does love trees. And we want to create a celebratory sticker that we can place all over the town. And Tree Board is excited about this, I'm excited about this. My aide, Sally Lambert Warfield, has done a wonderful job getting it out there and helping us to promote, and so I hope you'll help as well. I also wanted to say, Mayor, this past weekend on Sunday, Craig Kamek came out on behalf of your office and did a wonderful job, along with representatives in our community from the Faulkner Morgan Archive. Because we had our official unveiling of a plaque at 161 North Limestone for Sweet Evening Breeze, a Lexington legend. If you all haven't seen the mural, it's right around the corner. Check it out. Sweet Evening Breeze is a member of our community who blazed a lot of trails. And I think has made Lexington a safer and a more welcoming place because of her work in our community. So if you want to learn more about the entire story, you want to check out the mural. You have a plaque dedicated to it, and it has the full story and the history. And as a reminder, October is LGBT History Month. So now is a really good time to do the Pride of Place walking tour. If you haven't done that, I would encourage you to. We have many spots in our community that are historic for the LGBTQ plus community. And this is another way to get out and to learn different parts of your community's history. So that's it. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Councilmember Maloney. Thank you, Mayor. There was somebody, I went up there and talked to HR. They said they were going to have somebody down here to answer this question for me. I didn't know if they'd hear from HR, because I warned them that I would ask this question. So Dan was supposed to be coming down from HR. Eric Howard is here. Eric, you're going to be answering these questions? Because Dan was going to answer it, because they told me he was the one that would answer this question, and Dan was going to answer it for me. Welcome. I'd be glad to tell you what the question is. I've had a lot of questions been brought up in the works comp pay and all that, and there's a lot of concerns that I have with it. But this was a unique situation. We had a lady who had been in the department for 11 years and then she went to another department and she stayed there for 13 minutes, came back to the other department. She wanted to come back to her old job and she did. And she ended up, got on JQ, and she'd been back for two years at this job and she got on JQ, put all her information in And for experience, she was going to put 13 years at this job because she went back to her own job. So when they calculated, it only come back that she got two years of credit, even though she'd been in this job for 11 years before she left the other one. And she came back because nobody had a hard time finding people to work. So she came back. And they're only crediting her for two years of experience, It's why other people got a lot more experience than what she had and got bigger money. And I thought it was unique to me. I'm big on experience. If somebody has that much experience, I don't count, then they only will count to two years, when she really had 13 years because she had 11 when she was in her previous job. And my question is, why did you not calculate those 13 years of experience? Because when it comes to the word experience, I look at all kinds of definitions, but I just want to know why the experience did not count on that one. Okay. Well, I think the main reason, the short answer is because we don't count experience, we count time in the job. And the time in the job reset when she went from the position she promoted to back to the position she had previously left. That time in the job resets in PeopleSoft, it resets everywhere. And that's the reason. It's not that we're counting experience, we're counting length of time in the job. So all that experience she has does not count to anything, other than the two years that she has been on that. Coming back to help that they had a hard time finding people to fill that position. She's willing to come back and help out, and she's been at it for two years. I've known this person for a long time. And I look at experience, but I just have a problem with that. And I know that's maybe you all's rules and regulations, But to me, I can't see punishing somebody who's been there for 11 years and didn't come back and only give them two years of credit. So that's just me, but I appreciate you. I didn't want it. But that's just the beginning of a lot of questions that are concerns that are unanswered. And that was a confusing one to me. I understand that. That's why I asked that question. And I think there's a lot of people watching, city employees watching this. So hopefully they got an answer, and I know they're not going to be happy. I'm not happy with it, but I appreciate it. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Thanks, Eric. Council Member Lamb. Thank you, Mayor. And I wanted to, if you don't mind pulling up, I was talking to a good friend of mine last night that's also a constituent, and her daughter is Lindy Long Campbell, and she is a lung cancer survivor. and she decided that as a result, because she has survived it, that she needed to do more about this, and she started a nonprofit called Breath of Hope Kentucky, and they're having their inaugural white ribbon 5K race for research, and 100% of the proceeds of this goes back into this state and specifically to research. It's Saturday, October 29th, and it starts at 9 a.m. out at the Embassy Suites, North Lexington. As I said, 100% of the race proceeds and donations will support Breath of Hope Kentucky, a local nonprofit focused on lung cancer initiatives that directly impact the state of Kentucky and its citizens. It's my hope that if anybody is listening out there that would be interested in doing this, There are going to be lots of other things that are going to be in place out there. There's going to be a DJ music and fun. There's going to be, they're going to line the 5K, the path with memory signs for loved ones. And there's just all kinds of different things that they're going to be. It's a flat, fast course on a paved surface so that it's safe. And there's also a virtual option as well. So once I found out about this, that, you know, Lindy is just, she's just such a fierce advocate. And I wanted to make sure that I put this up there so that if anybody else is interested in supporting this, it's a really good effort. And Lindy is such an amazing person. And so I wanted to let everybody know that this is something that is a wonderful effort on October 29th. So if you're interested, go for it. Thanks. Thank you, Councilmember Reynolds. Thank you, Mayor. This Saturday, the Valley Park Fall Festival will be taking place. It's put on by the Park Activities Board. It's been going on for many years now. And it will be between 1 and 4 in Valley Park. And I was at the meeting about it last night and there's going to be wonderful prizes for decorating pumpkins and for costumes. So everybody come out for that. There'll be a DJ, there'll be dance performances, there'll be food and fun. It's a potluck, so everybody brings something to share. And there'll be special warm drinks for the family. So I hope everyone will come out and join me for that on Saturday. Thank you. Thank you. Councilmember James Brown. Thank you, Mayor. I just want to thank Trees Lexington and Sharon Murphy and my council office for setting up a tree planting this just yesterday, last night. We planted a tree in the honor of Carl White, who is a longtime neighborhood advocate and more so a worker. I mean, it's easy to be an advocate, but he actually got out and did the work himself and brought other people to the table. We planted the tree in Charles Young Park, which was a little harder than normal with its historic designation. Betty Kerr had to get involved and help identify the location of the tree. Doing a tree planting in North Lexington in the 1st District a lot of times is special. I think a lot of folks don't necessarily understand the importance of trees and tree canopy and the benefits. But I think when you do that and you dedicate it to somebody special like Mr. White, I think it makes it the more the worthwhile. So he passed at the beginning of the pandemic, right, when things were shutting down. So in a lot of ways, we didn't get to honor and acknowledge his contribution to the community when it happened. But I think last night leaves Lasting Memorial in a park in a neighborhood right next to a community center that he did a lot of work and was so passionate about. So I just wanted to thank everybody involved with that effort. And then I'd also like to, Mayor, just apologize to Ms. Bean. At our committee meetings, we don't normally allow comment, but I know specifically when there's issues that there's a lot of awareness and interest in, I try to provide the opportunity to give comment, and I just missed an opportunity today. So, Ms. Bean, I just wanted to apologize to you for that. I'm sorry. That's all I have. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member Bledsoe. Thank you, Mayor. I just have a few things. First, I also planted a tree this weekend. So this is at Moondance, and for those of you watching, my son has finally got me. We planted a coffee tree in honor of the Moondance Foundation Board, and we had a great time doing so. You can just scroll through a couple of those. The ground is very hard, so it was difficult planting in Moondance as opposed to there. We had to dig it several times because of the irrigation system that we kept finding every time we dug a new hole. So that's our third attempt, and it's beautiful. It's a very pretty coffee tree, and we're going to be planting at least six more, and I thought it was a really cool way to show how we can provide some shade. That's the one thing at Moondance we need more of is more shade, and so the coffee tree will be there, and I want to thank Trees Lexington for making that happen. It was a really fun thing. And then just two other announcements. The Kentucky Blood Center, I serve on their board and have the last couple years, and they are desperately needing donations. Sixty-two percent of people are qualified to give, but only three percent actually do. and in Fayette County, they're regional obviously for the state, but all the blood that's donated here stays here. So it doesn't go someplace else. It supplies every hospital in Lexington, every single one. So if when you donate at the blood center, be it through mobile or through the actual office, you're actually supplying, I mean blood, to the people who are your neighbors. And as you know, we are in desperate need. So if you've not been following that, you can just make some extra time to go give. It's easy to sign up sheets online at KentuckyBlood.com. and we can use some donations. And then next Tuesday, just as a method of announcement, the budget committee will be meeting at 10 a.m. instead of 1. So we'll start at 10 a.m. in chambers. We will take a break for lunch, and then we will come back and reconvene to finish that up before the 3 p.m. work session. So thank you. Very good. Thank you. I see no other council reports. We have no mayor's report. There's no price contract recommendations. And so it's time for public comment. And we have one speaker signed up, Dottie Bean, and I think you know the rules. Welcome. My name is Dottie Bean. I'm in Council District 8. I wish to comment today on the expansion and continuation of the Flock Camera Program in Lexington, a pilot program just discussed in the committee meeting prior to this. I'm very surprised that this program is on the committee agenda today without any coordinated attempt to inform the public of its impending approval. Money is already set aside for it in the budget. This unnoticed proposal has far-reaching consequences for this community. regardless of one's race, religion, political affiliation, or even economic circumstances. It needs a full airing before you impose it on this city, and I see that that may never happen. It is not enough for you to have talked to the NAACP, the ACLU, and the Human Rights Commission. It is a matter of utmost importance to every citizen who has any desire for privacy from the prying eyes of government. We request that this be brought forward at a public hearing or a series of public hearings and be given a full airing and addressed before you approve it. We would like to know and also have a media blitz to let people know that you are going to have hearings. We would like to know if the legal community outside the government is aware of this and understands what you're about to do. It is yet another far-reaching law enforcement decision you are trying to make without proper notice and public support. Thank you. Thank you very much. Now, council, it's time to have a motion to adjourn. Thank you. Council Member Baxter, second Plowman. All those in favor, say aye. All right. We are adjourned. Thank you for coming.