Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome everyone. Hello. Welcome everyone. We've got a lot of firefighters in the house. I'm sure they're reliving the game. Right? Welcome, everyone. I'll go ahead and call to order the April 30th, 2024, council work session. And I believe straight off the bat, We have a motion from Mayor Wu, Vice Mayor Wu. I just promoted you. Against my... Sorry, I just promoted you. That was uncalled for. Thank you, but no thank you, Mayor. I move to add a presentation to today's agenda to be made at the beginning of our agenda for International Firefighters Day. So moved. Second. Council Member Reynolds seconded. Any questions? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? All right. Thank you very much. We'll do that right now. She's vocal today. All right, Chief Wells, are you in the house? We're out one of the first pitches on Sunday, right? Yes, ma'am. How are you? Fine, thank you. All right. So this coming Saturday, May the 4th, is International Firefighters Day. It's a time to honor the sacrifices that our firefighters make each and every day to ensure that our community is healthy and safe. Our firefighters are an integral part of our public safety team. these men and women put themselves on the front lines to keep our city safe. In our time of need, they are among the first to respond. It's important that we highlight the importance of fire safety and do our part to keep our loved ones, our neighbors, and emergency responders safe. Chief Wells, first of all, I want to thank you and your entire team for all that you do for our community. Thank you. And at this time, it is my pleasure to read this proclamation. And here's how it goes. Will you step just a little bit up? Thank you. Whereas International Firefighters Day was established in 1999 to remember firefighters lost in the line of duty. And whereas today we recognize firefighters who serve and protect our community. And whereas our firefighters protect our residents with courage, compassion, and loyalty. and whereas we honor the firefighters who have lost their lives in the line of duty while serving our community and whereas thanks to our firefighters for their bravery and their many contributions to the community now therefore i linda gorton mayor of lexington do hereby declare may the 4th 2024 international firefighters day thank you and congratulations Thank you so much, Mayor, and thank you, Council. I'll be very brief. This is probably appropriate that we're doing this today. Today happens to be the ninth anniversary of the line of duty cancer death of firefighter Joe Vissing. And so we accept this on behalf of all firefighters past, present, and future. Thank you. Can we get a photo with the council and bring all the fire up? Thank you. Thank you. Did you get married? Good job, good job. Congrats. That's great. Congrats. Thank you. Hey, good to see you. Let me come on down over here. Good to see you. Hey, good to see you. All right. Thank you, everyone. The first item on our agenda is public comment for issues on the agenda, and there is no one signed up. So that brings us to docket, and there's no docket. And so that brings us to our summary from the work session on April 23rd. If I could have a motion to approve. Thank you. Council Member Ellinger, second by Council Member Fogel. Are there any questions, Council Members? All right. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Is anyone opposed? All right. That passes. There are no budget amendments today. there are no budget adjustments there is new business I could have a motion thank you councilmember Baxter second by councilmember Lagree and please log in first is councilmember Plowman thank you mayor and let's see I guess that miss the student are you here Stephanie which which number I'm sorry on a on a it had to do letter a all right that's commissioner alan bryant oh okay thank you hello welcome maybe you could read my mind and you knew i was going to ask about it i didn't say a but i was just curious because i think it's a great program and i think it should be extended can you just elaborate a little bit more on what that money's going to be doing Sure, so the next focus, for those of you who aren't aware, the It's Time campaign started off very generally promoting education about domestic violence in the community, and then we kind of narrowed it down to workplaces. Right now they're working on our immigrant community and so our next focus will be doing even more with our immigrant community really getting into focus groups and whatnot as well as working on our faith-based communities and then possibly doing some things with with male gender. Great sounds like it's gonna go to the next level. Yeah, yeah. We're very welcome to our council members who were able to donate our funds so that we could continue with this campaign thank you thank you mayor thank you councilmember Ellinger thank you mayor aye director Burton please welcome director director um could you tell me what's going on here with it look like they do it that they're doing a bridge or is there something that be a low water crossing so it's it's bridging over the creek but it it will flood when it floods so it won't be passable during during flooding periods because the it's cost prohibitive to build a large bridge over such a massive floodway so we're going with a lot low water crossing know that knowing that if it's out there in flooding conditions folks aren't riding their bikes either anyway so i could you give me where it is exactly so it's um kind of behind and beside liberty school um between there and liberty because i it's my understanding that when we were looking at the legacy trail in Scott County that they had to do a bridge there and that was going to increase the cost because of ADA requirements. Is this not an issue that we have to address? Well, not ADA. Again, during high flood events, that doesn't really apply. So, yeah, we won't be able to have to do that. We'll be able to do a lot of water crossing for this because it's not, it's effectively a park connection and not a transportation facility. Okay, so this won't be part of the trail system then? It'll still be part of the system. It just doesn't have the same requirements that you would have for a large shared use path that was along Liberty per se. Okay, thank you. And then on L, I just want to thank R.J. Corman for allowing us to do the fireworks again. And I didn't quite understand the contract that we had in number N. That's Director Conrad. As I saw, it was $23,000, and if they had to postpone, it was going to be an extra 10%, but then I didn't understand with the minus $4,600. Is that if we pay them that, if we don't do it at all then? If we have to postpone both days? If we have to postpone, there's an increase of 10%. Right, I see that. I saw plus $2,300, but then it said a minus $4,600, and I didn't know what that meant. I didn't know what that meant if we had to postpone and then we couldn't do it, period, then we just paid them a fee of 20% then? That is correct. Okay, all right, that's all. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Councilmember Legree. Thank you, Mayor. Two things I need to recuse on item M when we move forward. And then on item F, I'm interested in the overall timeline of this project, Director Conrad, and where we are in the process for Phoenix Park, if you could share that with us. Thank you. Thank you, Councilmember Legree. yes the bid period ends on may the 6th so that is on monday then we would proceed with construction in june and then that is anticipated to open in 2025 so probably late spring of 2025. i would ask to note that we conferred with council and law and that there is a clerical error on the synopsis of F. The corrected amount is correct on the change order listed in the packet, which should be $2,700, $450. Again, it's correct on the change order, it's just not correct on F on the synopsis. Okay, thank you so much. Mayor, those are my only items. Thank you. Okay, thank you. Council Member Savigny. Thank you, Mayor. I have a question on item H. It's CAO Hamilton or someone or director. Director George. Director George. Quick question on this salary.com study. Just what are we going to do with the data? I guess what are we trying to get from this and what's the plan of what we're going to do with it? Thank you. So this is software that we use on a daily basis to look at studying, making salary comparisons to other businesses and governments. So basically all we're doing here is we found a software that's cheaper than what we currently have. It's going to save us about $20,000. So we're just switching to a cheaper company, but it's something that we currently use. Great. Thank you very much. That's all, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Reynolds. Thank you, Mayor. I have another question, Director George, on the same item. I have two questions. Sorry. Couldn't catch you quickly enough. So how is this different? This is analyzing our salaries in a different way than we did with the study? This is not like a compensation study like what we did in 2022 and 2023. This is just something we use on a daily basis when we get questions about creating new positions and we're looking at placing them in a pay grade. It's something that we would use to make sure that what we're doing is in line with what is going on out in private sector, government, in the industry for that particular position. And how long have we been doing that with this software? Do you know how long we've been using it? we have you the software that we used we had salary.com and then we switched to something called pay core and so that contract is ending this year and we've had that for three years and so we're switching back to salary.com because of the savings and it will provide us with exactly what we need as far as doing our jobs and position studies okay that's very helpful thank you very much I also have a question. I don't know if it's for Commissioner Lanter or Director Heron on item B. Welcome Jeff. Jeff Heron. Thank you. My question is so is this particular money going towards mostly hotels? Yes so this was to fund an expansion of community Action Council's Emergency Family Housing Program because it uses a small number of apartment units which are generally not going to have vacancy on an emergent basis. We gave additional funding for them to operate a small-scale hotel shelter program for the season. This is no longer in operation. This would have ended at the start of April, but we only had one invoice at the time we pursued additional funding previously and we did not have enough expenses under our belt to project accurately for the entire season so this would bring us through all of expenses for the winter season okay wonderful thank you very much that's what i needed to know thank you mayor okay thank you very much all right all those in favor of approving new business say aye Aye. Is anyone opposed? All right, that motion passes. And that brings us to our continuing business. And first up, I'll ask for a motion to approve neighborhood development funds. Council Member Gray and second by Council Member Reynolds. Are there questions? All those, oh, I'm sorry. Council Member Menares. Thank you, Mayor. I need to recuse on voting on this item. Okay. Council Member Ellinger. Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to amend the Downtown Lexington Partnership, the $4,900, and change my amount from $2,500 to $2,600, which will make a total of $5,000. So moved. Second. That is on page 32. 32. All right. Council Member Reynolds seconded that. Are there questions? All right. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? And we have one person. We should have two people. Oh, okay. You're recusing? Yes, ma'am. Okay. Thank you very much. This all has to do with the rules before an election. Yes, ma'am. Yes. Thank you. So we had two recusals. Thank you. That passed. Council Capital Projects. Move to approve. Second. Thank you, Vice Mayor Wu, and second by Council Member Ellinger to approve our capital projects. Are there any questions? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? All right, that motion passes. At this time, I'd like to – whoops, Council Member Sheehan isn't here. Are you – Council Member Legree, are you giving the report? All right, for the committee report. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. I'll be filling in as chair today to give the Environmental Quality and Public Works Committee report-out summary. The meeting was called to order at 1 p.m. The first item on our agenda was approval of the February 6, 2024 committee summary. There were no additions or corrections and the summary was approved without dissent. Heather Wilson provided an update on the Lexgro Trees Grant Program. This item was reported out at work session on March 12, 2024. Next we had a status update from James Bush on energy initiatives. He began with a review of utility expenses which amount to $21 million for fiscal year 23. She highlighted a few of the fiscal year 2024 solar projects around Lexington, which show energy consumed and an estimated energy savings at each of these locations. There was no action taken on this item. Our last item was a preview of the proposed changes to Chapter 16 and 17B in the Code of Ordinances. Director Carey provided a preview of Chapter 16 and 17B related to Street Tree compliance. She reviewed the primary reason for the update, which is to provide more consistency in how enforcement referrals are handled when they escalate to the Natural Resource Protection section in DES. There was no action taken on this item. The meeting adjourned at 2 19 p.m. and Mayor, that concludes my report out. Thank you. Thank you very much. Does anyone have questions for Councilmember Legree? All right, thank you very much. Now at this time we have our presentation on the Lexington Fayette County Parking Authority proposed fiscal year 2025 budget and we have Jim Frazier here as well as Laura Boyson. Welcome. Thank you, Mayor. I am James Frazier, Chair of the Lexington Fayette County Parking Authority. With me I have Laura Boyson who is our new Executive Director. She joined us first of the year and so she's hit the ground running. She had been formally on the commission with me and resigned that position, and we did a national search. And at the end of the day, lo and behold, she was sitting right next to me all along. So we're glad she's here and she's done a phenomenal job. We are here today to two things, to present a budget, which Laura's going to go through in detail. We have some pretty pictures and some not so pretty pictures, to be honest with you. In addition to that budget, we're going to ask for your all's approval. It's been approved by our board, but we're asking you to also approve it. We're also going to ask you for a permission to do a rate increase. I think the last time I was here was a controversial conversation, and rightfully so. This is a rate increase in the garages only. It's not on the street. The rule of thumb in my business, and I've been in parking business all my life, you make it on the street and you spend it in the garages. These garages are absolutely hemorrhaging right now. You'll see in the presentation the age of these garages and the assault on the garages by use, by age, by the environment, and by, quite frankly, uninvited visitors, for lack of a better description, has caused a great deal of expenditure and focus and problem for the parking authority, especially at transit, where a lot of your folks park, quite frankly. I get emails Laura gets emails and calls we have a lot of work to do there We spent a lot of money there and we've got a lot of money allocated to be spent And we have to spend it to make it safe clean that people want to use it and can use it in a manner that which is designed So I'm gonna let Laura run through the nuts and bolts But that's the overview of why we're here and what we would like to obtain from y'all with your all's consent Thank you. Welcome Laura. Thank you. Appreciate it. So you should have the the deck we sent out We'll go through it quickly. I think when you're approving a budget, and this is my thought, and hopefully it might be your thought, that you have to know the context that you're dealing with, right? A budget is just a point in time, and if you don't understand to what our chairman mentioned, the nature of the business and the nature of the dynamics, it's tough to understand the budget. So we'll go through it quickly. Who we are, for those of you who don't know, we were established in 2006 and 2008. 12 you all gave us the property and in 13 we put in 6 million dollars. If you look back and say what was the Dow Jones in 2013 it was half of what it is today so I'm going to say we put in in today's dollars about 12 million. We are now going through and we'll talk about it later because of the need to what our chairman just mentioned we do have another 12 to 13 and a half million dollar project we'll have to do to keep our aging structures appropriate. Appropriate is a big word safe viable and also we create an economic engine by providing this this service. us what we do in the community maybe you don't know but we do provide the most affordable parking that you have that is an attraction to not just our residents but to our tourist industry hopefully you do know about our foods for fines we're in our 10th year of foods for fines and you can see the numbers we waive citations if you'll bring in 10 cans we donate that the various charities here it is I can't convey to you how popular that is I don't want to get off maybe we can do it for taxes you can come teasing we do put in about a million five and wages and salaries we are considered the highest value in parking we are the most reasonable rate you have in parking with the most convenient locations right because rate is also a function of location and we do support our small businesses this is a not a well-known thing that our hospitality workers downtown they get a $20 a month rate in any of our structures and which is so much better than them parking way down the street we're having to go out and feed a meter it's a $20 a month rate for them what we do on the street so we manage on street and we also manage the four garages we have just over 1200 meter spots we managed to make sure that you our citizens have access to fire lanes handicapped spaces loading dock we help with valet spaces, et cetera. We do, we are responsible to make sure, and we'll talk about this a little bit more, that the curbs are there for customers. When you drive up, one of the initiatives is that we want to make sure that there's an open spot for you to park, that somebody's not parking there 24 hours keeping you from not being able to run in to run an errand, run in and have dinner, something like that. We just started with your code violations group. will be helping them with citations. We've coordinated that and we're glad to do that. And that's something again that, to what our chairman said, we have to create the revenue to help with that project. And many of you know this, but we do manage, there are 50 separate residential parking areas in our community. The RPPP program, and we manage that. That is your program, and we help you to make sure that it's working appropriately. Our garages, we have about 2,200 spots under management, four garages. On average, our average garage is 39 years old with the Helix being the Grand Dam at 58 years old. Usually, according to an article, the approximate life of a structure is about 30 years. Most garages in our nation were built around the 80s. And so this is a quote that they are developing serious, even deadly issues if left unaddressed. And that quote does not escape our structures. They are out in the elements every day. They take an enormous amount of wear and tear, and we'll get to that. Why does parking matter? People see it as just parking, right? It's not fun. It's not cool. It's not. But it is. It does matter, and it matters to everything in our community. It matters to our tourism to our downtown business environment to our brand very important that our brand stay Appropriate so we can attract new business, etc Adequate parking and these are all cited where we picked up this information. It does increase the value of all properties For every on-street parking spot that is available It does increase twenty thousand dollars per year in revenue to those local businesses by keeping those curbs, keeping that movement going so people can come down and find a spot. It also is extremely a green initiative because if someone is looping to find, and there's data available out there, the contamination to the environment of that car looping and looping to find a parking spot, ultimately they do give up, and that's where you can lose the $20,000 per year in revenue. customers have said clients say that if they can easily find parking spots if those curbs are managed and more likely to visit a business downtown and customers know that safety is a top priority and we'll get to what we've done on safety if there's adequate lighting surveillance and we're part of your fuchsia system and security personnel what have we done this year to kind of hit those initiatives you all are very aware of your flock cameras and the fuchsia's platform we We just snapped onto that. That was an initiative of our board. It took us a while to do that, but we snapped on with your police department at our expense. We put in about $600,000 of cameras this year in our facilities, all except courthouse. So we did that in the three, Helix, Victorian Square, and Transit Center. Those are all now part of your fuchsia system. And then that little picture on the bottom that says structures a half a million, that is right over the LexTran. That is the facade of the LexTran loading dock. The structures we on average put in about 500,000 annually. We do have an initiative coming up. We are putting in $200,000 and we've talked to many of you, our fire department, etc., secure the transit to help minimize the issues we'll talk about in a minute. This industry is a consumer of repairs because there's always something that we're having to do, either upgrade, repair, or manage. We did engage with national engineers and consultants, and we are now going into a capital improvement campaign, a capital improvement seven years. We will spend approximately $12 million again on these structures just to keep them viable. We're not upgrading. We're not adding spaces. We're just keeping them viable so that when you go in, they're safe, they're lit, and then we'll put another million five into technology because the life of those cameras and the life of our technology systems, you all are going through the same thing, have a finite time. So this is, this is a, that's Victorian Square, the picture right there, that's Vic Square, you can see that our concrete deteriorates. And these are some of the things that will be done with the 12 million dollars that we are, we are on the ground now starting that. Just, just to mention just the upkeep, this week we spent $40,000 to clean. We annually do a deep clean and And then we did a $40,000 expense, and you'll see transit is being done either, I think it's being done tomorrow night, just to clean these facilities annually. We spent $15,000 on a machine that will bring hot water into these, mainly to keep transit until we can get a corrective. We have a corrective plan and get that in place. Some of the current conditions, these don't look fun, but if you see those icicles, that's water coming into concrete. That's a freeze-thaw cycle that was just earlier talked about with your streets. That is popping our concrete. So all this water that you see, well that's on the left and the right picture, that's creating ongoing damage to our concrete. In the center is what's happening at the transit center. And we're glad to talk to you at another point about this. I'm running out of time. Again, we clean three times a day the transit center. We have ongoing maintenance. That door is constantly broken. And now, because of the freeze-thaw cycle and the water, we're having concrete that's starting to drop. So that will all be addressed in this $12 million project that is just starting. The middle doesn't look like anything to most people, but that's a $600,000 membrane that's eroding in the helix. $600,000. You think it's gray paint? It's not. It's a specific membrane that keeps, even if we use the correct serpent to take off the ice in there, your cars are bringing in the incorrect type. And so it erodes the concrete and then starts to erode our stainless steel. And on the right-hand side was a little, a lady missed the turn and went straight through our protective, that's Helix. She took her car right through that. We have the full video if you'd like to see it. Okay, so let's, I did want to mention, with all these efforts that we have going on just to maintain it, we are in a cumulative inflationary time, 22% in the last six years. You all are addressing the same things. It's inflation to all of us. So here's our budget. I'm glad to go through it line by line in the last two and a half minutes that we have. But I think what we are asking for, and we can come back to the numbers, we can't do this without an increase. We are not immune to inflation. We are not immune to the want of our community to have safe, to have viable, and to have a value in the pricing. So we are going to need to increase. We have never, never increased the cost of a citation. We are at $15 right now. We're seeking your support to go to $25. It's at $15. We're going to $25. So in the life of this organization, we've not increased it, as you can see, since 2008. When you look at cohort cities, they're at 30 or above. And so I looked at cities that are in our geographic range, cities that are in our like populations to put together a cohort group that's in your deck. So citations. Now, again, that is not the meter rate. That is the cost if you violate the rules. if you are blocking a handicap or if you're in a fire lane or a loading or if you decide to stay there past the four hours you're allowed to stay. We're also asking, we have not increased the Helix or the Transit Center since 2018, and again, the pricing remains at or below market. We're asking for a $5 per month increase in that. We've had no increase, and that will bring in about $43,000. Now, up above, there is a point that says we will not do this until September 1st. We have a marketing budget. We will make our constituents, your constituents, aware of this. We will do advertising. Nobody will be caught off guard. That will be addressed. And so that is factored into the budget that it will not go into effect until September 1st of this year. So that is our ask. I have 45 seconds left, and hopefully you'll allow us your Q&A time if you have any questions on the budget but the main increases in the budget a lot of the professional services this year it has to do with the consultants that we're using to repair these structures we've also increased because we want people to know how to use us how to use our app how to use text to pay how to use pay by phone we want you to know that we want you know how close we are to all the restaurants we're changing our website so we don't just say how close we are to the to the courthouses, how close we are to various restaurants. So part of that professional services is the increase because of the capital program, it is because of marketing. When you look at salaries, you want me to finish, is that your discretion? How much more time do you have? About two sentences. Okay. Okay, so the salaries, Gary Means left in May of last year, he was, we were without an executive director for seven months. So when you look at the salaries just on a horizontal plane it does look like an increase we did increase we did increase our our staff the peos they were well under market and the bulk of that lift in the office is because we were down by 118 000 on on mr means being gone for seven months i'm more than glad to take questions mr frazier our commissioner our commission chair is more than glad to take any questions we want you to understand us we want you to understand parking we want you to understand anything we can help thank you for the time thank you very much we do have a few council members with questions first up is council member ellinger thank you mayor thank you for the presentation i've got softball to start with and then we'll get a little um harder question so let's 20 $20 monthly rate, I think, was that start at 3 p.m. for the hospitality workers? Yes, sir. Yes. And how do you all go about marketing that so people use that? Because when you came and spoke to us, I guess, last year, I didn't realize that was available, and that's a really nice offer that you give them. So how do we go make sure more people use that? Well, it's on our website. We've worked with our downtown people, and so that's one of the reasons we're working on our website and signage. we just have to do a good job at that because it was a it is on our website right and the word gets out predominantly through word of mouth i work at x i tell x do we get a good response from that do we get a great response mainly at the victorian square um yes and a few of our residential people downtown have suggested maybe they could use it too it's it's very popular very popular at the At Vick Square we have 90, it fluctuates, but about 90 people who use it. Now looking at your budget, it looked like your fines were going to be down 24,000, but if we're increasing the fines, why is that number from 834 to 810? Okay, so parking fines on street, the main reason for that is because we believe that We've had a burst, somewhat of a burst in usage downtown, and it will moderate. People are beginning to change, and this is the same thing if you talk to Lance Brookings at UK. They're beginning to adjust behavior. They are paying attention to fines. So Lance is at UK. He's also seeing a rollback, and so we're not projecting an increase, a major increase. That is a behavioral change in the residents. So people are adhering to their time and trying not to get caught? Is that what you're saying? They're getting fined? Yes, sir. And then you touched on this. The PCI operating expenses, it looked like it went from 1.1 to 1.27, $128,000, which was 11% increase. Okay. So PCI is in two places. PCI is the company that manages our on-street staff. So if you look at line 15 and you'll see PCI operating expenses, the main increase in those expenses and then again in 19, so line 15 is on street and line 19 is the structures. We do it. Okay. The main increase is because we raised the salaries of our people. We were under market. We were not providing what we would have considered a living wage for our people. We feel a responsibility to appropriately pay them. And we were seeing that not just in, we did a national study. we were seeing that not in just the numbers but the turnover i was not paying as much as a custodian at uk as starbucks etc so we were experiencing turnover the second thing is our vendors have gone up so when you pull up to our garages or you use text to pay those contracts went up dramatically and we bid them out but the whole industry has escalated even the cost of our of our contracts. So we had some significant increases in our in our technology contracts. Thank you and you did touch on this one on line number 24 on the personnel expenses where it went from 350 to 460 and yeah that was a 31% increase, 110,000. How many people do you have on salary? What's the number? We had four, we have three right now. We are down one person. But you're budgeting for four, correct? We're budgeting for three, actually, three. So the $350 to $460 is for the three people? Yes. And in that is fully loaded health insurance, all our taxes. We have about a 38 to 45 percent load additional. So if you divide by three, we're not making what you have the full load. Are you going to try to get a fourth person? We have it still open in the budget. I've been on the ground for a thousand hours, so we still have it open. So will that affect that? Not this calendar year, no. And part of that increase was because you didn't have an executive director, too? Would that play into 350 to 460? Exactly. That equates fully loaded to $118,500. Okay, my time's up. Thank you. Oh, good. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Council Member James Brown. Thank you, Mayor, and thank you, Laura, for the presentation, and congratulations on the new position. As someone who uses the Victoria Square parking garage frequently, I can tell that the investment is, I can see the investment in the garage. Thank you. hear it as well every time I get ready to go to the crosswalk that thing says something to me I don't know what it's saying but it says something the other thing I'll say to him I made one of my main questions was what was the public engagement strategy for the the raise for the rate increases but it sounds like you all have a plan from when this gets passed to communicate that to the to the users? Yes, and so that we we've hired a new firm, a new marketing firm, so we're gonna have to do it. First of all, we have a database of all of our users, so for the for the parking structures, the five dollars a month, we can we'll just blast emails out to them, make him aware, etc, etc, and we will do that. Our marketing company will work with us also to do, if you'll notice, I hope we're on your social media, you'll see it on our social media. We have so many different levels of clients that we have to touch them different ways. So through media, through social media, and then email blasts. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's going to be important as we move forward. I think the lack of communication the last time when rates were increased was part of the pushback that we heard. The change of the modifications that were made last year, did they make any dent into what you were trying to do as far as costs increasing? Because I know you came out with the proposal, made some adjustment based off of the community input. But did it really address the needs that needed to be addressed as far as costs? And I guess Mr. Frazier, that's probably more for you since you are more familiar with it or Or not? Yes, sir. You know, it did and it didn't. I mean, it did increase the revenue total. It didn't become close to address what we lost. And I know you all have heard me say this so many times. That land swap deal with UK killed us. I mean, it really did. And it's an ongoing pain of $300,000 plus a year forever. And so it's hard to replace that kind of revenue. It helped what we did. We did roll it back to try to reach an accommodation. because it was rolled out poorly, and I took full responsibility that night here. And so we worked with the administration and dialed it back a bit, so we got a little bit of extra time at the end of the day. We did not do Saturdays. And so it did help, but it's still a drop in the ocean, given what we're facing now with these expenditures. With the labor itself, Laura touched on it, but we raised all these parking folks up a lot of money because that's a hard job, and they weren't getting, you could make more money anywhere than they're working for us, and we were losing them. So we jacked up their salaries, included benefits with it, to get a living wage with things that came with it, and they've stayed with us. And it's helped retention. It's helped on collection, which is why, Council Member Ellinger, we don't have as many fines. People are paying attention. They are. The behavior is getting better. But I don't know if that answers your question, Council Member Brown. It does. It does. And then I have another question that really doesn't pertain to this budget, but just thinking about strategy and bringing new spots online. Is there a process in place, and do you have a roadmap of potential areas that you may want to bring into on-street parking as part of your inventory? And is that a multi-year strategy or just as machines and equipment becomes available? Well, it's both. We are constantly on the hunt for new properties. We cut a deal with UK. They had some excess property on Expo Court, I believe. Export. Thank you. Export Court. We picked up 18, 20 spaces that we didn't have before. We put in meters. Now, what, during that period of time that Gary wasn't here, I'm the guy that ran it. I didn't get paid, and I did the best I could, but I didn't realize we needed to go through the city to talk about taking on more spaces until I got the phone call, and I had to call. As I always do, I called the mayor and said, well, I kind of stepped in it. But so we worked it out. But so, yeah, we're always looking for new spaces. We've identified certain areas that we're going to come target with some green initiatives, quite frankly, some charging stations, which we think would be very well received at certain areas. So, yes, sir, it's a combination of what we're always looking for more on street because we need it. Okay. Well, I appreciate the transparency and the creativity with generating new revenue. I know new spaces when they come online, a lot of times people have some heartburn. But I think when you explain it to business owners about how it gets more folks in their business and turn over the parking spots, I think they're more receptive to it. So thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member Baxter. Thank you, Mayor. And thank you all for the presentation. I have a quick question. I'm looking at Appendix 2 on the current citation rate. And I'm looking at the escalation line. um currently it doubles after 14 days of non-payment as i'm reading it yes um will that stay the that will stay the yes great question i appreciate it i want to make because again we want you to understand it because you have to live it with us so we want to make sure everyone has so it will go the escalation will remain at 15 it will not double okay so non-payment in 14 days is an additional $15? Exactly. Okay. Yes. All right. I just wanted to clarify. No, I appreciate that. You know, you think it's clear, but no, I want to make sure you all are aware of it. Yes. I want to go back to what our chairman mentioned about the EVs. We are working actively with KU and I think you all are going to be really happy because I think that just helps our community. So we are looking at some active spots for EV stations. I did have one other question. As far as the 14 days, what's the rationale behind such a short window for escalation. Huh? Short window? Okay, sorry. It's actually, we send three letters, you should see my postage budget. We send three letters to people to make them aware they got a ticket, to make them aware they haven't paid their ticket, and to remind them again to please pay their ticket. So 14 is about on par with the industry. It's, yes, it's, the logic would be you've had time, the logic would be you've had a pay cycle. You know, there's a couple of thoughts within there. And I'm assuming that individuals can pay their fines online? We do. Lexpark.org. We have a pay portal. We do. Yes. All right. That's all I have. Thank you so much. And we would invite you, we'd love for you all to come down and see how we work with your constituents. We have people at the window that can help you with that. We'd also invite you to come walk a beat with us one day with one of our parking enforcement officers. You can get to me. Any other questions? Do you want me to? We've got parking. Oh, a lot. Oh. Okay. That's all I have. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Worley. Thank you, Mayor. Ms. Boison, thank you for the comparative information on the appendix, not just the other cities, which clearly shows that our fine was well below the market of similar size jurisdictions, but also the monthly parking rate. I mean, it seems like if the businesses and the users in the community are already paying higher rates and being able to absorb that into their business models, then I think that's a good opportunity for the parking authority to raise some revenue there. And so that's helpful to see the comparative data. And I think that that will be helpful for the users out there also. And then I just wanted to acknowledge and thank you all for your attention to safety, both public safety with the cameras and the technology there, because you all definitely are sometimes under attack, literally, by users of those garages. And so that investment, I think, is really appreciated. But then also the investment in the structures themselves, given the age, and then obviously the investment the parking authority has made over the years when they took those from the city and brought them into a better use. But those structures can be incredibly dangerous, and obviously I work in the Chase building, and that structure had a failure a few years ago that led to a death. Two, yes. Exactly. So keeping that in mind, I think I appreciate the forward-looking approach to safety, both for public safety and structural integrity. Thank you. We appreciate that. And we do feel responsible, and we want to be part of that. So thank you very much. Thank you. Council Member Reynolds. Thank you, Mayor. And thank you, Ms. Boyson, for all that you've been doing. and I really appreciate how clear you've been and when my office has contacted you, how clear and willing to get answers you've been. And I want to also say I really appreciate what you all have done with the garages as well. As someone who's lived in this area most of my life, I've seen the evolution and what's been going on, and I do appreciate it. I also park all over downtown and use the garages and the streets, especially if I'm in a rush and I wonder how how do you get the or how can we more get the word out to our residents about the different ways to pay for parking for instance if we're in a rush because maybe I am sometimes and then it takes you know five minutes to or more to you know try to pay if I don't know how to pay or I don't remember my license plate or there's a lot of different scenarios. Is there a way that we could do more education around the ways to pay and to pay more quickly? Again, I appreciate the question. We changed our marketing firm because we do want to be more, make people aware and it is a challenge for some people to use text to pay, pay by phone. So we've met with our, it's one of the initiatives, is communication. How can we better communicate? So first of all, you have to identify who are your clients. You learn differently than I learn, right? You might be more social media, I might be website, or I want to see it in the newspaper. So actually, Chairman Frazier got on the call and said, this is a key initiative. We've got to communicate, communicate, communicate. So we are in process of that now, and hopefully you'll see it more. our social media we are focusing on how to use us how to access us but if you're not on social media so the other thing is we're putting up signage on our lots to say here's how you use us which we're trying every you know every avenue to reach every client of ours and to remind folks to leave some extra time if they're not familiar with the systems you know if they have a meeting or something urgent that they're trying to get to. And then for the increase, which I totally understand, is there a reason or what is better in terms of having a full $10 increase in one year as opposed to doing it a little more incrementally? Great. So you can do it incrementally. Unfortunately, the reason is we are under market, but the cost environment that we live in is not under market. I am paying market rates. I am paying market rates for construction. I have to do this. This is just what we're asking you for today is $252,000. So if I do it incrementally, I will never get to the point. I will not replace the $300,000 in the land swap, I won't get there. And if we don't get there, you will change the whole dynamic of parking in Lexington because you will go to the $125,000. If we can't keep these viable, I need the funds to keep them viable. If I can't keep them viable, it will move to, and there's nothing wrong with SP Plus, but they're a publicly traded company out of Chicago. I mean, you will move to a different parking model in this community and I think what we want to do is keep it of value, keep it affordable, etc. I think my question was more why it hadn't been done and why it hasn't been done previously. I'd love to give that to Chairman Frazier but sure. To answer your question because I've worked very closely with Gary Means all the years, I'm the one that helped hire him. We always focus more on the meters because quite frankly meters were easy for us to tackle When we got the garages, and the mayor knows this, I mean, they were in really bad shape. And then we picked one to focus on initially Helix, and we spent a lot of money. But I think you see the result. And now it's an icon. The night lights are part of the – you're all's advertisement for the city. So we're very proud of that. But we started with the meters because that's really – in this business, that's where you make your money. So we kind of more focused on that. But I'll be honest with you, the more we got into these garages, the more we realized how bad they were. And now that the cost of escalated continuing every day, I'm afraid, quite frankly, I was more in favor of more of aggressive budget, but everybody outvoted me at the meeting. So that's why it is what it is. Okay. And then the rates in the garages that are going up, that is not event rates. That's monthly rates only. Correct. It's $5 per car. And as Laura said, we're going to let them all know and we're going to let them know why. I mean, we're, we're trying to do a much better job. I did learn from my past sins. Believe me. we're going to try to do a better job telling everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Because the more you know, the more as a community we can discuss this. But the bulk of the people in Transit and Helix are Gray Construction, KU, and U. So it's affecting a corporate population. So not that that will make a difference, but I wanted you to know that, that the bulk of it. Okay. Thank you. Vice Mayor Wu. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Ms. Boison for the presentation. Thank you, Mr. Frazier. I want to start by saying that several things you said on the stand, I don't think we hear enough of from leaders, which is taking responsibility, saying words like, I take responsibility, we're going to do better next time. I really, really appreciated that, and for us new council members, it was literally one of the first things that came onto our plate before we even swore in. It was a thing roiling in the community, and I really appreciated working with you all on that issue, engaging with the public, kind of seeing where you fell short, and then kind of stepping up to the plate. So I really do appreciate that, and I would love to see more of that from our leadership in the city all over. A couple of questions. You touched on this, Mr. Frazier, a little bit about the rate increases and the hours increases from last year. You said that the budgetary impact was fairly small. Do you have a figure for us in terms of how that figure was different than last year? Like how much more did you all get revenue wise? Right. No, I don't have it. I can get it for you, but I don't have it. I can guess. Yeah. Yeah, just curious. Okay. And then to follow up on Council Member Reynolds' question about sort of incremental versus that jump, I completely get that the jump is to kind of catch up to market rate. Once you get to that point, do you all have a strategy for incremental increases going forward so that we're not in this sort of gap again and then have to make another jump, you know, five, ten years down the road? the residential parking we are we want to come back and talk to you about the rpp program it's been existed since 1990 and it's not functioning as it was intended it's your program you wrote it we help but the density there's 50 places now and so we're going to come back and talk to you about that. $10 for an annual residential parking permit, that has to, and it just, it's not just the cost of it, but we're going to come back and talk to you because the density of those locations has changed so dramatically. A Victorian home now, instead of being a single family, is an eight plex, which changes the dynamics completely of how people park there. So, yes, we will be back mainly for the RPPP and at some point, yes, we will be back for other things, but not tomorrow. Yeah. I'm generally a fan of catching up to market rates to comparable cities. I think it's important and I think it's important and I appreciate you all explaining that piece of it because I think on the face of it when you say rates are going up, you know, that It has a lot of negative connotations to taxpayers and to users, but if you explain, hey, we're not doing anything outrageous, look at all these other cities. In fact, we're still either on par or even still slightly below those. So I'm a big proponent of that, so I appreciate your work. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Councilmember Fred Brown. Thank you, Mayor. My question is on a different thought train, I guess. The consumer out there, weekends, nights, and the economic situation that we can generate from that. I may be wrong, but used to, there was some advertisement or some posting about what hours you could come down and park, and you didn't have to pay for the parking. Are you all addressing that at all? I mean, is Sunday still free? Yes. Is Saturday still free? Yes, sir. So let me do my ad. We are 9 to 7 meters. We are free Saturday and Sunday. We are our only cohort or aspirant city that is free Saturday and Sunday. That is on street. Our structures are charged on Saturday, but on street is free. We are free on street and all garages for all federal holidays. So does that answer your question? Well, how do you get that out to the public? I don't see any post-steers. Okay, so all of our meters are... Okay, it's... All of our meters are programmed to say that. You would have to read it. Oh. But when you go to the meters, it will tell you that. But there's nothing, no signage. There's no sign above it, but it is actually in the software of the meters. And it is on our website, and that is an initiative communication that we have taken on wholeheartedly to communicate better. And it's profoundly layered because of the number of clients we serve. We had a resident this weekend that came in from St. Louis and reached Chairman Frazier, got his email. We serve tourists and we serve so many different people, so it's profoundly layered on how we can, same as you. Good signage, other than having to go in and actually program something. Right. Good question, and we are working on communication. Thank you. Thank you, Councilmember Legree. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Director Boyson, and thank you, Chair Frazier. I think that this is a really helpful presentation and we've had a lot of good questions. And I appreciate a very responsible and clear budget that you brought forward to us and I think that this is a good reminder that parking downtown is not just about street parking, it's also about making sure that our garages are safe and that they're modernized and well maintained. I know that when we're investing in downtown and making our amenities the best that they can be, that these types of investments are essential for people who come here every day or people who come here once ever. So the majority of these structures are in my district and I agree, as council member Worley mentioned, that we really need to invest in them. And that's through technology and staffing, but also in terms of maintenance and proactive work because we don't want any challenges or disasters, all these structures as you mentioned, undergo enormous wear and tear. That's stuff that we can see and that's stuff that you understand because you've had experts come in to analyze different areas that maybe we are not even privy to, as you mentioned with the membrane. So I just want to say I appreciate your work. I appreciate programs like the Food for Fines and some of the public artwork you all have invested in. And I think a big part of this messaging will be getting accurate information out, as Council Member Brown mentioned, via various channels. But also the message of this is about making sure that all of our structures are safe and accessible and secure now and far into the future. So that's all I wanted to share. And I believe there's only one more person signed in after me. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Councilmember Sevigny. Thank you, Mayor, and thanks so much for the presentation, Director Boyce and Chair Frazier. Just I also wanted to state that I also think, you know, good and easy to use and safe parking is a great part of an economic development engine downtown. So I appreciate your understanding that it does actually matter. I just have a few questions that also are different than other people's questions. They're more focused on the numbers themselves. And I just wanted to ask, you've got on line 42, you have depreciation and amortization, which we don't see it super often, but in public sector. Is that depreciation or are you making those loan payment cash? It is true depreciation, no amortization, it's true depreciation, but the format is true depreciation. Because typically that's a non-cash expense. It is a non-cash expense, but the format of fund accounting. Right, okay. Okay, and then so then it kind of leads into the next question because typically you use that money to help support capital improvements, you know, because basically your product does degrade and you use that money to re-up it. And since we don't have the balance sheet with us, I just need to, could you give us a general feel of at the end of this fiscal year, what do you think your cash position is going to be? Sure. I'm glad to do that. So we keep on average about just over a million dollars in our operating account. And there's a strong amount of velocity in that. You can see our expenses. So I like to keep 90 days cash on hand. I think that's the appropriate amount to keep on hand. We have $3 million right now reserved for in our camp, in our camp for the projects, $13.5 million project, $3 million reserved. That's why the need to create net profit is so important. And then we have another $300,000 on deposit, just a deposit, which is part of our relationship with one of our banks because they provide an operating line of credit. I think it's responsible that we have an operating line. We don't use it. So it's a compensating balance. So that's our cash position. So there's another fund. The camp fund is a different fund. Yes, sir. In terms of gap accounting, it would be considered temporarily restricted. Restricted. Yeah. But it is designated for our camp. And then do you guys plan to, are you planning on bonding all these improvements? Are you going to save all the money and then spend them? Are you going to save and spend, save, spend, save, spend? I'm just curious. No, we talked about this when we went into this, how we were going to do it. Last time we did, we did borrow through a bond issue. This time we are going to, we believe, we believe that we can get through it. Depends on the timing, but we're going to try to do it out of cash flow. That's a strong statement. However, we know that if we get to a point where something changes, we are bondable. We can do a bond issue or we could temporarily use our line of credit. But we're trying to be as fiscally responsible as possible. Great. And I really appreciate your answers and thank you very much. Thank you all. Thank you. Are there any other questions? I believe Council Member James Brown has a motion. Thank you, Mayor. I move to place on the docket for the May 9, 2024 Council meeting a resolution approving the proposed FY 2025 budget of the Lexington and Fayette County Parking Authority pursuant to KRS 67A.921. So move. Second. Council Member Ellinger seconds. And it's my understanding this also includes the rate increases. Yes. Embedded in the motion. yes, in the budget. So are there questions, comments? Anything? All right. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Is anyone opposed? All right. That passes. Thank you very much. Council reports are up. Council Member Reynolds. Whoops, you went away. Did you want to speak? Okay, Councilmember Reynolds. It keeps disappearing. Thank you. I have some photos. So the first one is of the Lexington Children's Museum Night at the Museum on Friday night. A lot of my colleagues turned out for this, and we went to the moon, And we had a great time. It was a really wonderful event, and it has just gotten bigger and bigger over the years. And I know some of my other colleagues might want to share about it as well. But I'm just so impressed with how that organization has really turned itself around. And I'm excited about its rebranding and possibilities in the future. So that was a blast. and congratulations to everyone on the board and to their staff and to their director, Colby Ernest, as well. And then there were so many things happening this weekend. I'm not even going to post pictures of all of the things, but there were many. And you might have seen on TV that I participated in a dance competition this weekend as well, and that was a lot of fun and a big challenge. And then there we went to, I think the next picture is the cleanup from Preston's Cave Spring. This is an annual cleanup in this park that is around the corner from my house that I love. And Friends of Wolf Run and many others work on this. They're actually creating a dam in the creek there. And it is a really beautiful park if you haven't been out there. It is really kind of like on the backside of McConnell Springs, and there's a little walking path, and it's beautiful, and I appreciate all the people that work to keep it that way. And then I went to the reopening of Ford's Fitness, and I want to thank the mayor. The mayor was there, and she shared a few words. This is really exciting that Mr. Van Deneker, he bought this property and is reopening it, and he has done a ton of work to redo it and is going to continue to put a ton of work in it. And so that's him and his wife, and we enjoyed being there and participating on Sunday for the grand reopening of that. And then the Battle of the Badges was also Sunday, and a lot of us attended that. And it was a really great time to support our public safety. So that was before the game. We are so thankful for our police and fire, and they had a very fun game. And we enjoyed attending. And we want to say that we support both our police and fire, and we send our condolences to the police department for their loss. And we want to congratulate fire this year, but I've heard it has been very different in years past. So there's always next year. And once again, we're grateful for all that they do. and we were glad to get to see Justin and others. And I love softball and baseball, and I just think it was a great event. Also not shown is the Spiegel Heights Neighborhood Association meeting this weekend, where we talked about different things and some park improvements that we're making. So that's all. Thank you very much. Thank you. Vice Mayor Wu. Thank you, Mayor. It's hard to believe tomorrow is going to be May, and May is Asian American Pacific Islander Heritage Month, and this year there are a whole bunch of activities. In fact, every full weekend in May there will be arts and cultural activities. So I wanted to tell you about some of the things happening this Friday at Moondance Amphitheater. We're going to have just this big cultural performances, shows. There's going to be dance. There's going to be music, Taekwondo demo, a couple of food trucks. There will be Wise Bird Cider is going to be out there, Tepan Food Truck with Japanese street food, Everest with Nepali and Indian food. I think next slide shows you a few of the artists. Let's see, yep, Saw Peep from this cross-cultural music ensemble from Louisville. Then we also have a Filipino dance troupe, K-pop dance performance. We have that other picture, Chris? There we go. Yep, Taekwondo, and then also Chinese traditional dance as well. So that's all happening this Friday at Moondance. Doors open at 6. It is free and open to the public. And then in the coming weeks I'll tell you all more about other activities that are happening. So it's really exciting to celebrate AAPI Heritage here in Lexington. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Baxter. Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to give everyone a heads up that Food Truck Fridays is returning to Chilleteau Park starting next Friday. So May 10th, 17th, and 24th, between the playground and the basketball tennis court area, we have a spectacular event. The community really enjoys it, so I encourage everyone to come early because the lines kind of get long and bring some seats with you, too. It's just a really fun event for everybody to kind of get out and enjoy spring. So I invite everybody to come out. It's from 6 to 9 each Friday night. Thank you. Thank you. Councilmember Lynch. Thank you, Mayor. I had such a great time on Friday. I was invited to participate in the career day at the Rise STEM Academy, one of the great schools in the second district. And interacting with all of those young female leaders was just empowering. They asked me some great questions. They gave me some great suggestions of what our city needed. I think the most popular career of all the students that talked to me was veterinarian. STEM disciplines were, of course, very strong, but they all, several wanted to be veterinarians. It was a great, great day. Glad our fire department was there. I told them they were still in the show because they had all the cool gadgets, and all the young ladies loved what they were offering. But I was just glad to be there with a plethora of different careers to just expose those students to what they can be. There's just some phenomenal young women at that school. And then one last announcement is Hangry Hump Day is coming back for the spring and summer. So all of my neighbors in Madison Station, please come out to the Madison Station Clubhouse tomorrow evening for food, fun, bring the kids, bring your dogs. It's a good time with lots of food trucks, and I will see you there. Thanks, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member Fogle. Thank you, Mayor. Commissioner Ford. Has there been a change in the procedure for the pool passes for the pool that's not built in Douglas Park? A constituent just tagged me to ask that question. No, ma'am. And council, thank you for the question, council member, mayor, council. What council member Fogel is referring to is, as everybody's aware, Douglas Pool is under reconstruction. And so we're very excited about it coming online next summer, but it won't be available this summer. to help mitigate that inconvenience and impact to residents in nearby areas. We're providing what we're calling the Douglas Rebuild Pool Pass, which would allow families that reside in a certain geographic area near Georgetown, near Douglas Pool, to be able to access free pool passes to other pools in our system this season. And then also in conjunction with that, we are promoting special events at Castlewood another of our aquatic centers that might bring folks out to the pools. We're really excited about that project, but we hope this will help bridge people until we can get the pool complete. Thank you so much. So constituents who's blowing my phone up right now, there was the explanation by the commissioner. So thank you for that. And on a sad note for first district, there was a murder this morning on Shropshire and third near Charles Young Center and we lost two young men at the age of 11 and at the age of 12 with suicide last week. So please, I just would like to just make sure that their memory is not lost. Young life is too young, any life is too young for gun violence or unexpected deaths, especially 11 and 12 year old, one by hanging and the other one by a gun. So I just wanted to report that and just tell you to the family from the council and I attended one of the funerals, the other one hasn't happened, but you guys didn't give me permission. But I said on behalf of our mayor and the city council that we gave our condolences to these families. and we will work hard to try to prevent some of this gun violence and just bring attention. And I know that everyone on this council, everyone in chambers, send their condolences out to these families of a lost life. Thank you. There's no mayor's report today, no price contract bids, and we have no one signed up for public comment for issues on the agenda. So Vice Mayor Wu has a motion. Thank you, Mayor. I move that we go into closed session pursuant to KRS 61.810-1B for the purpose of discussing the possible acquisition of real property. A closed session is necessary because publicity at this stage would likely affect the value of the property or properties in question. So moved. Council Member Gray seconds. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Is anyone opposed? All right. We will now go into closed session. That passed. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. so Thank you. so Thank you. I'm going to go ahead and put it in the middle of the room. I'm going to go ahead and put it in the middle of the room. I'm going to go ahead and put it in the middle of the room. I'm going to go ahead and put it in the middle of the room. Thank you. ¶¶ ¶¶ Thank you. I'll ask for a motion to come back into open session. Council Member Sevigny, Council Member Gray seconds. All those in favor say aye. Anyone opposed? All right, we are back in open session, and I'll call on Vice Mayor Wu for a motion. Thank you, Mayor. I move to place on the docket for the May 9th, 2024 Council meeting a resolution pursuant to KRS 65.02810, rejecting all proposals submitted in response to requests for proposal number 48-2023, downtown City Hall development, and canceling all remaining activity related to the RFP. So moved. Council Member Fogel seconds. Are there any questions? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Is anyone opposed? No. Are you opposed? No, ma'am. Okay. All right. That motion passes, and I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. Thank you. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Thank you very much. Thank you.