So, I'll call the meeting to order at 301 and then I'll sort of tell we have enough. Great. Great. Welcome. And I take it that I'm seeing Olivia Grigsby. It's a face I don't ordinarily see. You know, she's my new legislator. You told me she was going to be here today and we've not met. So, I wanted to introduce her. Let me, Beth, just for the record, let me go around for what I see on the screen so that you can make sure you have everybody for the minutes. Margaret Graves and Phil Meyer and Mary Quinn and Will and Joanna and Phil Hager and Jim Coleman and Robert James and I'm here. You're here, Beth. And Tracy is here. And Kathy Plowman is here today with her new legislative aide, Olivia Grigsby. So, hello, Olivia, from everybody. Welcome aboard. Thank you. We are in a bit of a time crunch today because Mary Quinn and Hannah and Kathy, Kathy doesn't vote, but Mary Quinn and Hannah do and Hannah hasn't signed on yet, but she's coming. They both have meetings and are going to have to leave and we do have a closed session and we do need to take a vote after that. So, we'll need to move on pretty quickly. Beth has told me that Stephen Howard, Kathy probably knows this, was just confirmed by the council as our new member and he, Kathy, I don't know if you were there or if you were still on your trip when he got confirmed, but he and his son this week have gone for college visits. He won't be here today, but he will be here at our meeting in October. So, we will need to welcome him. So, thanks for helping get him going because we do need to always have a quorum. We do have enough. We can at least approve the minutes. I hope you all, I know it was a large packet. It was 20 something pages. Beth and I wanted to make sure that you all had a copy of the application for our Preserve Kentucky nomination with all the letters. Again, Mary Quinn, thank you very much and that is all included in your packet. We had the whole list of the farms that have been inspected this month in the packet. It was a very large packet and a lot to read. Did you all get your packets and did everybody have time, I hope, please, to go through it? Are there any questions, comments, additions, changes? There's Hannah who has signed on. Beth, for your minutes. Again, the minutes are very thorough and I very much appreciate that for now in the future when we need to look back on something and know what's been done. If there are no changes, any questions? No? Is everybody awake? Then I'll entertain a motion to approve the minutes as mailed to you in the packets. So moved. All right, Margaret made the motion. Is there a second from somebody? Okay, Mary Quinn and Hannah and Robert. So we got lots of seconds. All in favor, show of hands just if you are approved. Okay, all right. We are today. Do we know, Beth, did Brooke tell you how long the presentation would be? We can. Here she is. I bet we'll have time to do that because closed session will probably only take five to ten minutes. Okay, so you think we're okay? I think. Brooke, how long is your presentation? It should be just about 20 minutes, I think. We're still waiting on the consultants to get on here because it'll be coming from them. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, our presentation, as you all know from your agenda, is Brooke Gray is our Environmental Senior Planner and Division of Environmental Services. So welcome, Brooke. Thank you. And they're going to give us a presentation today about they are updating our Green Space Master Plan. And the Green Space Master Plan had a whole lot to do with the Rural Land Management Plan. Those of you who've been around long enough will remember that. So this goes hand in hand with what we do and is very important. And I'm sure that, Brooke, some of our folks here will be making some comments. Not today, but when there's time, we'll be happy to help with that. Gloria, since she's waiting on consultants, maybe we should just let her log off and go ahead and do closed session and she could log back on. And Brooke, you could log back on in about ten minutes. Okay, sounds good. Is that okay? Yep. Thank you. Okay. Okay. We do have some important things to discuss a couple in our closed session. And so I will tell you that the time is 3.07. Sorry, I see Kathy waving her hand. Do you want to let her do her comments real quick and then? Okay. I know I was raising my hand because we would have to leave for closed session. You can just disappear for a minute. Yeah, we can come back. Okay. All right. Okay. Thank you. Because we want to ask you some questions. So we do have some comments for you. Okay. Great. Okay. The time is 3.07. Same time. And I'm going to call for a motion to enter into closed session pursuant to KRS-61810B in order for us to discuss the potential. So moved, Juana. I guess technically. Okay. And there's a motion and a second. Second. Okay. We have Phil and Margaret. Did they say is LexTV off? Are we offline? Madam Chair, I think we still need to take a vote on the motion. I want to see if they're if they're still if they I think they left while we were talking though. Did they? You can take them. You can do that right now. Take the vote in open session and then they'll take us off screen. Yes, ma'am. I was waiting for you to vote. Oh, okay. Thank you. I didn't see you anymore. All in favor, please signify by raising hands. Okay. Great. Thank you. All in favor, please signify by raising hands. Okay. All in favor, please signify by raising hands. All in favor, please signify by raising hands. Okay. Thank you. All in favor, please signify by raising hands. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.  Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you and thank you. Great. We do have time. We do have a motion to approve. We're approval back in open session so is that unanimous. First of all, everybody. And now I need a motion to approve the appraised value of farm 12021 as discussed in closed session. Is there a motion for that. Margaret. I'll second. Okay, and Hannah seconded as well. So the motions been made and seconded. All those in favor, show of hands. Okay, great. Moving right along. And we do have closings other closings lined up by the way, so that's great. Okay. Now, now that we're back in. I don't see Kathy but I told her we were connecting. Okay, great. Thank you. I can't hear. And I do see that we have Brooke, and we have Stan Harvey, who's a consultant. And it looks like a few other consultants will let Brooke introduced. And I see Jordan, I see the name Jordan Sebastian but I don't don't see Jordan, and I don't see Christine right now either. And Kathy's now there's Kathy, she's back. Great. Brooke. Back to you. Now that we've had our closed session thank you for letting us do that since we have a couple of people who are short on time today I want to make sure we got our very important business done. As I've said earlier, you are our environmental senior planner, with the environmental services, and you do have some of your folks here with you would you like to introduce those. Yeah, I'm gonna give it to Demetria Kimball Mayor millhorn who is the environmental program manager senior associates over the greenway master plan project. Good afternoon guys thank you for having us on my name is Demetria Kimball millhorn I'm the program manager senior here in environmental services. We would like to talk to you today about one of the big projects I've been working on which is the greenway master plan update. The greenway master plan was completed in 2002. And as you guys know a lot has changed and the over the last 20 years. So we've hired la asked to assist us with this update, looking at where we've been, what has been done where we're going and what So I'm actually going to kick it over to Stan, and see if they can, I know they have a presentation for us to share this so they can share their screen. Thanks Demetria, and also want to give my thanks to y'all. Many of y'all I know but for those of you who do, I do not. My name is Stan Harvey, I'm an architect and urban planner with Lord X sergeant here in Lexington, and we are thrilled to be involved in this effort, and think it's incredibly great opportunity for the city going forward. We are here and my colleague Jordan and I are going to kind of tag team through this presentation and broken Demetria may jump into where needed. Jordan, are you able to share your screen or not. I will try. So while he's doing that, we also have two other firms that are important one is a firm called bio habitats a really interesting and unique firm that's actually has is based partially in Louisville, that they are ecological planners, which is kind of the underpinning of this whole effort, and then a firm called Alta, which actually did Lexington's bike pad master plan, and we'll talk about why that's important in a second, and then he consultants is helping us with some of the stakeholder community outreach. We reached a really critical point in this project where we've got something on paper to react to. And there's a lot of parties that touch this, including the role and management board so Dimitri I've wanted to make sure we give you an early preview. It is by no means, even a draft plan, it is just kind of early concepts and project identification. So we'll try to be brief and then leave as much time as possible for questions and answers. So what is this about. As I said, we'll, we'll go over kind of the fundamental underpinnings which is, we have made a ecological assessment of the most ecologically sensitive areas in Fayette County. Not surprisingly, as you'll see a lot of those are in the rural area. We're both looking at the urban services area and the rural area in terms of measures and actions that could happen going forward. Part of that is to develop a maintenance guide of best practices for both public and private entities that we hope can be helpful, both in a voluntary way and maybe in some ways in regulatory ways as we looked up. Any ordinances or regulations that apply to some of these environmentally sensitive areas. But also, the goal and we've heard this loud and clear from the public is people as much as possible also like these green ways to be publicly accessible where possible. And particularly there's an opportunity to do greenway trails that has led and the previous screen way master plan detailed several corridors that could be considered for greenway trails. And we've taken that jumped off from that and use the greenway trail system as the basis of a city wide trail system that we're working with the city and NPO on looking at. So with that, Jordan, if you keep advancing I won't spend much time on the how what survey results we just wanted to reinforce that this project has a lot of public interest. We did a survey in May, just to ask people about goals and confirm objectives, confirm what was important and what were priorities, and to give general comments. The thing I say about this bar charts, even though they're hard to see, we asked a series of questions about what's important about this effort. Is it about protecting native species and plants? Yes. Is it about looking for ways to create a citywide trail network? Absolutely. Yes. Is it about having better access and understanding of water and water quality? Yes. Is it about restoring tree canopy and looking for those? Yes. So the answer was yes to everything we asked, which maybe is not surprising, but it was rewarding. And then we also asked people next slide Jordan about what kinds of things could happen in these greenways and what was most important. And then also we asked people what their favorite greenway was, which is a word cloud there on the right. And that also was intriguing to us because of how many answers we got. You see the ones that got mentioned the most, but it's a really good diversity of places. And I think that is a testament to the increasing importance of public open space in the city of Lexington and Fayette County. So I'll skip through the next couple. And I think I'll turn it over to Jordan just to give you a little overview about the ecological assessment. Yes. Yes. So, so by habitats, one of the other consultants for this has has taken kind of a lot of information and compiled it into some really helpful maps for us. And what we're the next three slides we're looking at are ecological sensitivity throughout the county. And what this takes into account are stream buffers, floodplains, wetlands, forest patch sizes, different types of forest. And basically what they have created and updated is this overall ecological sensitivity. So you can see in the map, hopefully, the areas in blue are the areas that have the highest ecological sensitivity, and you'll notice in general they follow kind of the stream corridors. And what they also. But you're going to catch it on this one I hope. What they've also done is overlay that information with the green ways with and other priority green green way areas that were identified in the role in land management plan. And you can see here on this map, the areas that were identified as special natural protection areas are also highlighted here. Then were you going to add something else? I was just going to acknowledge the important work of the role and management board. We really built on that. That was some of the most important things that we reviewed and tried to incorporate was the previous plans and work. Including these resources, both historic and natural. This is all now digitized. So, for best sake, I know the city is interested to kind of get this in a, in a working form where it can be an ongoing tool. So, as we'll come back to. We, we are trying to kind of turn this over and make this databases that the city can use for any analysis that needs to do. Yep. So, in addition to these two, they also took a look at forest canopy. And so what this map shows is kind of the existing forest, but also potential future poorest areas again. If you zoom in really close, you can see in the data, you can see, say, brings in like some of the little street trees and that sort of thing, but we really see here is still kind of correlates to stream corridors. And on that note, sorry, Jordan to keep jumping in. One of the things we want to stress in this plan is how important linear corridors are not, you know, they follow creeks and some of the natural features. But as you all know. The connectedness of those systems and habitats is really important. And so we don't often have big wide areas where we can have complete, you know, natural state. But if we can create and and try to take advantage and help these corridor systems, both for forest and for water and other resource protection and stewardship that that may be arguably makes the biggest impact we can do if we can look at these corridors. So, what we've done from using that by habitats data is overlaid that ecological sensitivity on to what is basically a kind of our watershed map. You know, there's nine major watersheds in county. And so each of those are kind of these greenway ecological corridors. So, you can see here we've highlighted sort of color coded the water with watersheds. And then you can see hopefully a little bit how the ecological sensitivity relates to each of those watersheds. This map shows schools, parks, water bodies, waterways, urban surface boundary, and the ecological sensitivity. And hopefully what this is going to do is, you know, it will show us where the gaps in that greenway system are, you know, the next level is actually looking at kind of the existing greenway parcels and where the ecological sensitivity is and where we need to look at kind of connecting those pieces. So, some of that could be acquisition or easements, but some of it will likely be private stewardship, and maybe we're just giving some guidance and help. In addition to that, hopefully we've zoomed in a little bit closer into the watershed level. This is looking at the town branch watershed. So, the town branch conservation greenway. And you can see here again the parks, schools, waterways, and again that ecological sensitivity overlaid on top of that. This is really, you know, looking up from really high in the sky still. So, I think there's another level to this where we zoom in a little even further and really be able to see where those connections need to happen. So, for DES, one of the next steps is prioritizing where in this large system, for a variety of reasons, would be the next focus areas, likely looking at priority corridors, as mentioned, since the corridors kind of define stuff. And one of the things we're trying to do is, particularly in the urban area, is illustrate where these happen. So, as we keep zooming in on the maps, you actually physically see. And what you all know is, unfortunately, in large portions of Lexington, these systems are in back of houses or behind shopping centers or in culverts somewhere sometimes. So, it's really trying to elevate the importance of this natural system that still exists in the city limits as well. So, with that, I mentioned the other kind of corollary goal of this effort is to look at usable open space wherever possible, particularly if there may be some public control of that or already publicly controlled. So, we've spent a lot of time with Alta talking about the left 3 boxes, which are, there's clearly public interest in building upon the success of the Legacy Trail, Town Branch Trail, and now Brighton Trail, which are the 3 main trails that exist in the city or are being worked on, to extend that citywide. And create a system of separate, as best we can, separated trails. Sometimes those could be in natural greenways and some of them could be what's called side paths, which is a separated trail that might be in a transportation corridor. That's particularly relevant in the urban services area where we might have some excess right of way. But we don't necessarily have a natural feature, but it's a way to create those connections. And then there will be instances where, very consistent with the bike ped plan, there'll be on road or more traditional bicycle or pedestrian facilities that will make some last mile connections where it just isn't feasible to get that extra space. So, hopefully that makes sense. That kind of, those left 3 are all make up the overall trail system. Sorry, if you can advance. And I don't know if you can zoom in on this on the right a little bit, but. But basically. The trail system, the draft is still a draft. Is to the right I know that's all county, so it's hard to see, but. It's basically 28 trail corridors. So, we have 3 existing, so it's basically adding 25 more. To look at, and you see how extensive the system is the goal once again is as much as possible to get. Separated facilities in those corridors. You will see that there is a few links that I would consider regional trails. That go out into the rural area, much like legacy trail does today. Um, so they're the notion of connecting North line. And Paris bike, the notion of connecting Brighton. Um, trail and extending it to Winchester eventually. Which may be out the U. S. 60. Or, or, uh, the extension. South on Nicholas road, once you get past Shiloh to park and South farm into Jasmine county. Saying for connecting Harrisburg road and a trail there and. Connecting Beaumont's further South with what now there are pieces of a U. S. 68 trail in Jasmine county. We are still the city's really the sales line is actually the, the railroad line that runs out to pass. That's not been a successful discussion yet with the railroads. Maybe not surprisingly, but that still is an idea that could have a lot of merit, both for a regional connection, but also it connects once it gets into the city limits. It's a, it's a really nice connection to a lot of neighborhoods on the West side of town. And then, and then, like I said, legacy trail or Georgetown. Road as well, or other kind of more regional connections. There is a link I'm sorry also take down tapes Creek. And hits veterans park right now, but obviously that could be extended into. Jasmine county as well, so. I would say about half of what you see on your screen. Is in conservation greenways, it's part of that greenway system and ecological. Sensitivity as well, and half of it is in. Roadway corridors where it would be part of a complete street strategy. Of looking for separating facilities, so. Just wanted to give you an overview of how this is coming together. But we particularly wanted to answer questions or talk a little bit more and I don't know if you have 1 more slide. Jordan on, oh, I'm sorry. So also we have the same level of detail for each of these 28. So, I know that was a little hard to see, so zooming in and looking more specifically at. Where a conceptual alignment of the trail is. This happens to be up connecting Masterson station to cold stream park. So, a lot of these connections are connecting our city park system too. And then where there's constraints are kind of a little red circles. Thanks sorry I forgot and then these all interrelate. So here's a trail the same area. With trails and conservation greenways intersecting sometimes the trails are in the greenway. Sometimes they're in. Corridors, and I think this kind of analysis will be the next steps where. You look into little pieces of the city and look at these issues in an interrelated way. Next, um. So, just more detail that will be, we will be putting all of this. Online publicly in a few weeks, we're still churning through. This is also Demetrius done. Amazing job leading across departmental team of at least 5 departments of the city, which, you know, getting all the departments involved. So, we're still in the process of kind of reviewing and refining this based on that input. But we, like I said, it's also a good opportunity to check in with our community stakeholder groups and talk about this work too. We did this this morning, just in preparation for this meeting. I thought you all might be interested to see the overlap of. In the rural area with some of the ecological sensitivity, like I said, we can provide this to Beth, et cetera, but. I think this could be important for 2 reasons. 1. We hope that there might be opportunities to look at stewardship. You know, particularly with progressive and responsible property owners, you know, ways they might be interested to know recommendations that we might have. But I also think it shows why the program is is so important because it is providing the opportunity to look at natural state on on some of these corridors. So. At Charles discretion, you know, that could also, you know, we hope help. Your work to both promote and identify the next level of. Possible PDR, so we've talked a lot. We will be. Kind of refining this this we expect we'll go to. The planning commission and possibly council beginning of next year, 1st quarter of next year. So we still are now kind of launching a pretty active phase, but we'll have a public survey. There's a website for this project. Anything that we've showed. Is on there, so if you're interested, it's. Like screen ways dot com, so there's all the background and more. And then this is the overall schedule of moving towards the end of the year for a draft report and consideration of that report. And any recommendations early next year. So, thank you all for the time would be glad to take any comments or questions. Beth, can you put us back on? So we have the whole screen or Jordan somebody so we can. See all the board members please. There you go. Could everybody see their presentation? Okay. I know the map was not, we couldn't see the complete map at least. I couldn't I'm part of it. Thank you very much. Stan. Jordan Brooke. I have just a few comments for you guys working on this and that is. When you say you use the rural land management plan. Please bear in mind that the rural land management plan. Has not been updated since 2017. It needed a lot of work at that time, even and. Had a lot of updating that needed to be done even then. We have improved the rural area in the last 6 years. We now it's very important that for. Environmental and ecological reasons that we do protect our prime soils. I would suggest that you do in your what you're doing in your maps that you put in your prime soils. Map we have worked on that extensively in the last few years. I also think that would be very important. It's, it's been very important. To Kathy Plowman, who is here with us today and the current mayor. To work on this from a regional planning standpoint. And that's a big reason I know when you talked about trails, I think you need to go back. It would be really important. That you add in the brand new river trail. We just bought the river park, which is the 1st access to the river. Our portion of the river and Fayette County, the surrounding counties. And I know Jasmine County, Madison County. They all have worked on a river trail. We really want to work with them so that you can put in it. Boones borough and go all the way down the river with your canoes and kayaks and tubing. All the way to where our ferry is, at least. So, make sure that you go back and put your all of your river trail access in that would be important. Also to Mary Quinn Reimer, who is on this board and doing our tourism, because a lot of other places use that a lot for tourism with special activities. So, make sure you go back and your trail put in your river greenway and your trail for that. The other thing that I thought that you probably needed. If you're looking at it from environmental and where we can and cannot always put trails, you need to work with the, which we did initially on the green space plan, which has a whole lot of the information that greenway plan came from. Looking at UK's geologic survey, so that, you know, where the sinkholes and the very, the environmentally sensitive areas are where you have to have special considerations. So, I would suggest that that also be one of your maps. And as soon as you have something put together that we can actually review, please see to it that Beth Overman gets that and we have committees. The Rural Land Management Board has committees who can look at that and the whole board usually reviews these things before we move them on. So, thank you. I think that's a great presentation. Those, those are my comments that I do know there are rare species, rare and endangered species that we probably need to make note of as well, because there are a lot of people who use that for tourism. For coming to do wildflower walks and tours and I noticed on your chart, wildflower was one of the main things people did. I guess my other, my personal question is when you did that survey that 338 people responded to. How did you advertise that? And is there a way to broaden that? Yeah, it was a collective effort of our consultant and the city. We, we intend, like I said, I think there'll be even more interest just like you're asking to be able to review there's. Information on on each one of the corridors and summaries and more on the ecological too. So, we, in a few weeks, we do hope to publicize. So, we'd like to use all these groups we're meeting with to help share that when it's available. We have, if you're interested for whatever it's worth, if you go on that website, you can also sign up for the listserv. So, then you'll get anything. time anything is updated or notices. So if you're interested, you can sign up there to be personally contacted. But we would really appreciate your all's help. Because I think now that when we get the actual documents that are a little bit more nuanced, that first survey was was more high level goals. But this would be more and we will probably ask some questions about priorities that it's a very extensive system, obviously, in both an ecological sense and in a mobility sense. So we're part of the next effort is also to think about where would you start? What are the highest priorities and to advocate for, you know, attention and resources to be given to those priorities as a pilot of sorts. And I noticed where you had on your map for highly medium, not so important list. I'm not sure that that is in line with our adopted, currently green space plan the way we handle this, all of our easements that we have have very specifics about protecting tree stands about protecting the environment, about protecting the prime soils. So that map is probably going to you're going to have to look to some of our people. Phil Meyer and Robert James worked on the soil quality. We worked with the American Farmland Trust on some of that. They're probably going to have to review some of what is there because what what we consider high priority for preservation for tree stands and soil may differ from what you're what you're doing. But we are definitely interested in connectivity, not only for people being able to enjoy it, either from riding down the roads, or actually, there are a lot of privately owned properties who allow people to come already on these properties and these easements. So you're going to have to sort of reevaluate some of that, I think, based on what we already require of those landowners. Okay, that's all great input. I appreciate that. I think particularly the green space plan, additional considerations in terms of sensitivity and preservation. All of that was based on ecology from connectivity and protection of water, resources, air quality. So it's pretty broad based. Board members. Go ahead, Phil. I got, thank you for your presentation. I got a couple of questions. Questions. I guess the first one is if one of your recommended greenway paths following the creek would need to go through a PDR farm, does our PDR contracts allow that? If not, then you got to avoid PDR farms. I think that's a great question. Actually, we did talk about that. None of them do require going through PDR farms. They are all in railroad or transportation corridors. So they're going by, but they're not technically going through at this point in terms of what we've defined. Well, as someone that's very much in favor of trails, and especially bike trails, God, if you can get the Brighton East Trail extended to Clark County, that'd be wonderful. Where's your funding come from? And is there, are there government, federal grants that you can tap into? Demetria, would you like to start? Our funding was a combination of water quality funds and general funds. I've actually been asking for this update for several years and council has, was able to put some funds together for us to put this plan in motion. As far as the next steps, that's something that we're actually going to be working on is once we get the priority areas to also identify different funding sources, be it federal, local, private partner, public partnerships. There's a lot of different options. We're working with the MPO office, you know, because they have a lot of federal fund options. So I think it's just going to be our, this is a 50,000 foot view, and we are looking at our next steps to see where we want to dive down our priority areas to dive down into it, because there's, as you guys know, Fayette County is very, very large, and so we can only tackle a little bit at a time. The other thing, and somebody said this the other night, that was so true, is I think part of the city's intent is also to put this on paper and why it would be considered part of the comp plan. Because at some level, even though we might have to take a while to implement some of these things, if it's on paper, you know, it is something for the city to use as they talk to folks to sometimes just prevent bad things or obstacles from happening that make it more difficult in the future. Thank you. Board members? Comments? Questions? I know Mary Quinn has been particularly interested in this for tourism, I think, especially in our Greenway River access. So, Mary, do you have any questions? Absolutely. It's a great, the messaging, the infrastructure, all of it just goes a long way in continuing to meet visitors where they are and how they like to travel and experience destinations. And we know what visitors want to do, what locals like doing. We'd like to be able to share it with them. Well, a member of the Green Space Trust shared an article from Cleveland that I really think touches on what you're talking about, Mary Quinn, and talked about how she never really experienced the city and felt connected to the city until they built a trail system. And then she felt, by experiencing it on foot and in a bike, but separated from traffic for the most part, it was the first time she felt connected and felt like she really understood and was connected to the city. So, I know there's a visitor, like you said, but the visitor builds on, build it for the people here and the others will come and use it too. So, I think that's well said and that article has been a real touchstone. I think it's been really interesting for us. Thank you for all the work. It's no small task. Dan, Jordan, Brooke, everybody, thank you all very much. Maybe you covered this. Please, yes, Jim. I was just asking, Stan, may you have covered this, maybe I missed it, on the ongoing cost for maintenance? How's that covered and who covers that? So, great question. So, one part of the city's efforts, and Demetria can jump in, is relative to the actual ecologically sensitive areas and greenways and conservation areas. The city does do limited acquisitions and tries to control or get public easements over some of it, but a lot of it is maintained by homeowners associations or other private interests. So, the point of the Next Step Maintenance Guide is to address both public stewardship and private recommendations. Those aren't going to be regulatory in most cases, but they're going to be best practices. But I think she can say a little bit more about how I know that this plan was actually originally called the Management Plan. I think we've broadened it, but I think that recognition that the Maintenance Guide and Management Plan is actually the long-term need is still there. Demetria, is there anything you wanted to add about how this gets maintained? No, I don't think the actual master plan is maintenance. We're putting an internal implementation team together. If you're asking about on-the-ground maintenance, DES has worked very hard with all the other departments to get them to think about long-term maintenance and how things are maintained and who is responsible for things. Our biggest concern is something goes in the ground and then gets ignored. So, funding for that has been thought about up front, and it comes from a variety of different funding strings or grants. So, the Green Space Trust is able to get some grants to help with some of those funding and maintenance sources. I just think maintenance is going to be very important. If you have natural potholes due to erosion, that could be very dangerous for bikers as well as anyone walking or jogging, especially during the late evening. And absolutely, and that's something that, again, we have learned to make sure that that is thought about during the front of the project, not at the end. Is the Parks Initiative ballot that's being considered for November, would any of those funds be available for Greenway maintenance or improvement? At this time, I believe that Parks is really concentrating on trying to fulfill their backlog of all of their maintenance projects. However, we do work closely with them to help share some of that responsibility. DES is in a great position to be funded quite a bit through the water quality management fee for these natural areas because we recognize, and Water Quality recognizes, this all is a high impact on our stormwater and our environmental side that they're concerned about. So, we work together very closely with Parks. In fact, we have a Parks Advisory Board meeting in a few minutes. And maybe would that also potentially include any corporate sponsorships or not? So, the Green Space Trust actually has the opportunity to work with corporate sponsorships and that's going to be one of the things that we look at as far as our action plans for this master plan, yes. Okay, thank you guys. Keep us updated. Thank you all. Constantly. We absolutely will. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you all. Board, we do have one thing while we still have a quorum. Our new business, we do need to vote on our meeting schedule for next year that Beth has provided in your packets. Let me see here. Get my seat back out. Again, we're going, it'll be the fourth Wednesday of the month at 3 p.m. every day. And how do you all feel about continuing with the Zoom? Yes. Please do Zoom. That's the best way, Madam Chair. Okay. So, I know we've had good attendance because of that, I think. And it certainly is difficult to park downtown and it's always good that we have LexTV to be able to project this. I know there are people who do watch it because I get comments. So, somebody is seeing it. So, it would be the fourth Wednesday of the month. It's still at 3 p.m. If that's okay. Via Zoom. Again, we thought we might combine the November-December meeting like we've done the last couple of years. Are there any comments about that? About just having one at the end of the year? Is that okay with everybody? Not a heads or? Okay. It was in your packet. I hope everybody had a chance to review that. Do we have questions or comments? Please. No? None? So, we'll just follow that same schedule on the fourth Wednesday as we've done with those dates. And I will entertain a motion to accept that as presented. To move. Okay. Juana and Anna and Bill. Okay. Great. All in favor, show of hands. Okay. Beth seems to be unanimous. We do have some unfinished business. Beth, if you want to quickly go through on the easement closings and give them an update. Okay. Yes. Christine briefly raised her hand, but I think she is taking it away. Okay. Okay. I think. Let's see. All right. Definitely. We definitely still had a quorum. I wanted to make sure that we covered our bases while we still had adequate number of votes. Yes, you all had none. Okay. So, on easement. So, you may remember last month we said that we hope to close around four at the end of this month. So, NRCS actually notified us a couple weeks ago that because it's the end of their fiscal year, we needed to wait until October. So, they have not sent back the form that allows us to close those, but they expect us to be able to do that in October. So, hopefully by the next board meeting, we'll have four or five to report and we're working on the others. Most of the others that aren't ready yet. One is because it's new, but the others, there's some landowner issues they're having to resolve, surveys, liens, that type of thing. So, but we hope to get these all wrapped up in the next few months. But so, that's all good news. And so, we have 12 farms under contract total and then one newly funded that the appraisal is ready. It's one you all authorized last month, but we've sent it straight to appraisal review. So, we'll review that at your October month. And that concludes that report, Gloria. Okay. And while you're there, just go ahead and give us the application and how we are with working on that application cycle. Okay. So, GIS has prepared the address list of all eligible farm owners. They just sent me that yesterday afternoon. And I'm working with communications. We're actually, the postcard we always mail out to those people advertising. We're going to add a QR code this year that will take them directly to our webpage. And we're also working on having a fillable application online. So, they still, LFQCG is not yet the position that people can pay the $200 application via the credit card. So, they'll still need to mail in the check separately, but this will allow it to come straight to me. So, as soon as all that's live, it should be by next week. I'll let you all know. And we do have a very brief period because the federal application is due early December 20th, but we will get our, do our best and hopefully get some people in. And if you all know people, please do refer them to us or have them go ahead and apply. And let me see if there's any update on that. That's it on that, Gloria. And then we have our, excuse me, you may have to tell them the Preservation Kentucky detail. Have a drink. Take a drink and get a drink. Preservation award, the Preservation Kentucky. You all please mark your calendar. It's on Saturday, October the 26th from 2 to 5 pm. And it's in Frankfurt at the Delicate Hotel, which is 106 East Broadway. And it is really wonderful that you all have gotten this. The application and the letters of support were in your packets. You saw some of the photographs and the things that went with it. And it is wonderful that we're getting this. Go online and look at Preservation Kentucky and see which groups got it last year. Bourbon County in Paris has gotten one. Paducah has gotten one in the past. So it's wonderful that we will be noted. And I don't know, Beth, if there's a possibility that there are any available little small buses that we could all meet one place and they could take us or not. You might check into that just to see if that's a possibility, if the city has something and we could all go together. So mark your calendars, guys, October 26th, 2 to 5 pm, Frankfurt, to get your pats on the back. Tracy, while you're still here, can you give us an update on the large-scale solar farm info? It will be on the Planning Commission's agenda tomorrow afternoon at their meeting. Okay. I think it's fairly far down the agenda. It's usually towards the end since it's a text amendment. The staff's recommendation hasn't really changed. So their recommendation is to put these types of solar farms in the industrial and economic development zones, not in the ag zones. The applicant that filed for this text amendment doesn't want them in those locations. They want them in the ag zone. So I suspect the Planning Commission will hear about that tomorrow. And they'll have to make a decision, you know, up to them. But they typically follow the staff recommendation unless they... I just haven't heard a lot different. So I don't know what they'll do. But it will... there's no further postponements unless the applicant agrees to it. And the indication last we heard from them is they're not going to do that. So I think it'll be heard tomorrow. Well, comments, everybody? Phil? My question, Tracy, if the Planning Commission doesn't give Silicon Ranch what they're looking for, can they appeal to the Council? Well, it's anything that amends the zoning ordinance is going to go to the Council anyway. So, you know, if the Planning Commission passes what's being recommended by the staff, it will go to the Council that way. Then that applicant has an option to either pull it and say, we don't want to proceed or to go ahead and ask for either... ask for some type of a hearing or ask for some, you know, the Council can... it's a text amendment when it goes to the Council. It's a text amendment to the zoning ordinance. It doesn't have a deadline at the Council. They can put it in committee to review it. The Planning Committee of the Council, which is where I would think it would go, only has one more meeting this year in October. So I don't know, you know, it's hard to know what will happen. If they feel like the applicant feels like they would have more traction on their issues with the Council, they might let it proceed on and then ask for, you know, some opportunity to have some type of hearing at the Council or... there's multiple options of what they can do depending on how the decision comes out tomorrow, but it will go to the Council because they have to enact zoning ordinance amendments. So it will either go... it will go to them unless the applicant determines they don't want to proceed that way. Thank you. And Margaret, did you raise your hand? Yes. Yeah, I just wanted to share that the Fayette Alliance is asking people who are opposed to solar facilities in the Ag Zones to appear tomorrow and make comment. So there is... although the staff recommendation is for there not to be solar facilities in the Ag Zones, the Fayette Alliance thinks it's important that people show up to make that known to the Planning Commission and I'm assuming also to Council members who might be watching. Are there any other comments, suggestions, questions? Gloria, one thing I'll share with the Board is that at our last meeting, the letter you all voted to send that is in your packets, it was... we did get it in that night and it was on... I went to the work session the next day where they were discussing it and it was on the very top of the Planning Commission's packet. So I think they did see that. So it was front, top, number one thing. So that's good. And I'm sure Tracy will be there tomorrow. Will you also, Beth? I can, yes. Okay. On behalf of the Conservancy. Okay. And Will probably will. Oh, I will tell you just as an FYI, their agenda is quite long tomorrow. I don't know. Just so you know, it's pretty long. Thank you for the heads up. Okay, afternoon. So we're going to move right on to the next contentious. How about an update on the short-term rentals, the STRs? I know Beth and Margaret and Tracy all attended the September 10th meeting. Tracy? Well, they... Margaret, you were there. Margaret, Tracy, Beth were all there. I asked a lot of questions. They didn't really move on it. So I believe, and I had a meeting just earlier today with Kathy Plowman about this, and she thinks this is going to happen because the planning committee only has one more meeting this year, which means they won't have another meeting until next year when they'll have new council members. Suspect, and that's on October 15th. I think it's likely that it will be put back on their agenda for that day, and I think the hope is that they would move something forward. So that would mean that they would move it out of committee. There may be some amendments to it at that point, but they didn't get to that point last month where they actually determined to move it forward to the full council, or they determined to change it. They just asked a lot of questions, and it's up to them what they want to do with it. I don't know what else might be on their agenda the 15th. Since it's the last meeting, it may be full. I don't know, but it's their call at this point what they want to do with it. I know that Kathy Plowman's been talking to James Brown, who's been kind of talking to Preston Worley, who's the chair. So we'll just have to sort of stay tuned to see when their agenda comes out for that committee meeting in October, what it has on it, and even if it's on there, they don't have to move it forward. I mean, they can keep it in committee. They can move it out. They can change it. They can change it slightly. They can change it a whole lot. I mean, there's any number of things that could happen, but it looks like it's setting up to go. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what the 15th of October planning committee. Okay. And I have hoped Kathy wanted to be here and was here earlier, and we needed to do the closed session, and Olivia's still here. So, Olivia, please pass on to her. Is there anything that she wanted to say through you or she had to leave to go to the other meeting? I heard everything that she wanted to say. She had to hop off. She's giving a presentation on her sense of place initiative at UK today, so she's sorry she had to leave early, but if you all have any specific questions for her, feel free to shoot those to her in an email, and I'll let her know. Okay. Tell her we still want our recommendations to go through as suggested, as recommended. I will tell you, discussion at the last meeting, I think there's going to be some changes proposed. There was a lot of discussion about the hosted, all being hosted. There was some questions about the size of, you know, a one-acre site in AR or less than 10-acre site in the AR versus a 200-acre site in the AR. So, I would not be surprised to see some proposals to change some things to come. I think that's a fair statement, Tracy, for sure. Just based on the questions that were asked, there seems to be a desire to allow some unhosted STRs on smaller parcels. I would just simply add that that seems to line up as well with the conversations that I've had. Okay. Tracy, Margaret, Beth, Mary Quinn, everybody who was in on those meetings, thank you, of course. Phil, you're next. Treasurer's report. Thank you. I have, let me see, we had one invoice this month from Charlie Farmer for 54 inspections. The list of those inspections were in your packets. 54 inspections, $5,400. Beth, has that been paid yet? Yes. Okay. That's all I've got to report. And the list of farms we've been putting in your packets, that's something we initiated some time ago. Look through those. You see which farms have been inspected and you will see that it was literally thousands of acres. So, we have the number of farms and the number of acres. So, you can add that up and you can see it's all over the county where he has been and what we are doing. So, we definitely are meeting our ordinance requirement on that. So, Phil, thank you, Beth. Thank you. I only have one thing to report for the chair's report and that is I did go to the Bluegrass Trust Advisory Board meeting that I attend on a regular basis and did give them our update. They already knew we'd gotten the award. One of the people on that committee is in the Frankfurt office and was very complimentary. So, that's good and they pat us on the back. I am pleased that they hold us in such high regard. So, I think that's good to you all showing interest in our attendance and everything we're managing to accomplish. So, thank you. Beth. Okay. I don't think I have an update other than what I said about the closings and applications. So, those are the two big priorities right now. Well, she's been busy. I will tell you all because there have been a lot of documents to sign and a lot of things to forward and a lot of emails going back and forth with our NRCS folks. So, Beth, I know that because I get copies of all of them. So, thank you. Thank you very much. That's good work and I do want us to have time for our board members to comment this time. I know a couple of you all have already said you need to leave. So, Mary Quinn, you want to comment before you go. Update us on what we need to know. I have to be really brief because I'm supposed to be on another meeting right at 4.15. But obviously, this is tourism. This is peak tourism season. Keeneland had a record sale. We've seen a lot of folks in town for the sales for UK football games. Obviously, October is always a signature month for us. And so, we love having all of these visitors in town. As I said to a group of mayors today at the Kentucky League of Cities conferences, tourism fuels our economy. So, I'll leave you with that. Great and thank you for all your hard work. I've been seeing ads in a lot of the magazines, Southern Living and the Kentucky. And so, you have some good full page recognition. Good. Yeah. Well, we always showcase our beautiful landscape in those images. So, very proud of it. Good job. Thank you. Moving on around. Joanna, I see you next on my screen. How are things going with our hamlets? You're mute. Okay. Okay. Right now, we are getting ready to move to doing more oral presentation. So, we're waiting for the community in those hamlet areas to reach out to us so we can do more oral presentation. And we will be having an event. I forgot the date. So, I had to send it to Beth when we get it. But we will be opening it to the public to come and learn about oral presentation so that people won't be scared when they hear the word what we're trying to do to get their history orally. So, that's what we are doing with the sense of place. And as far as me, I'm closing down my garden for this year and hoping to build a vineyard. So, I'm going to be planting some grapes and hoping that maybe the next three years I'll have some wine. Good. Then we'll have an in-person party. There we go. Oh, thanks. Will. Will Mayer. I don't have anything. Thank you, Gloria. Okay. Jim Coleman, I know you've been working on Uttingertown. I read it somewhere. And that's fantastic because that little building, it's just wonderful that it's been preserved all these years. Yes. We're raising money too. We had a big fish fry out here last Saturday and it was a sellout and we're getting it painted. And so, that's a wonderful project. And Kathy Pullman is also doing a wonderful job with helping us with that as well as with all of the other hamlets. I'm pleased to let you all know that Ag Commissioner Jonathan Schell did a wonderful job with our fireside chat at the Black Soil State of the Soil Conference that was about three weeks ago. I was the moderator of it and he just did an outstanding job of talking about the future of Kentucky agriculture. He also stopped by my home last Thursday when I had a fundraiser for God's Pantry and he helped to kick that off. So, he is a very, with all the things that he's doing across the entire state, travels more than 2,000 miles a week, he seems to figure out how to make it happen for all of these wonderful events. So, he's just very committed. And the last thing I'd like to share is that Martina Barksdale at Visit Lex is just doing an outstanding job for our city and our county. And she invited Connie Ness Traveler as well as Town and Country journalists to my home last Tuesday. And we had a wonderful cocktail party for them and talked about Lexington and the beauty of Lexington and hopefully they're going to write all about it. So, it's just been a very busy time. Fantastic. And I saw, talking about good things being said about Lexington, I saw William Shatner is getting ready to have down at the Kentucky Theater the documentary memoir they're doing with him and for him, who on national TV talked about Lexington and how wonderful it was. So, we've gotten some really good PR. That's great. Visit Lex is doing an outstanding job. Yes. Thank you. Phil Hager. Nothing really to report. We just got done with the Keeneland September sale for about, that was about two weeks long. So, that was a lot of records and everything. So, it was a good sale. And it's, that is good PR also for this area, for Lexington, for our horse business. It's great. Thank you. Thank you for all you do toward that. Hannah. No report. Well, I have a report for you then. The hunt club that you worked on for the day in the country was apparently a big hit. It was absolutely fabulous. And that it was, we had people from everywhere that came to the horse show. They had barbecue and they had a great all day this past Sunday without rain. And I know you were part of that and helped do that. So, thank you. Oh, it was my great pleasure. And we have a great tradition that's been brought back and we're moving forward into the future, acknowledging our past and our traditional past. And it's just really exciting. Well, it really is. And you need to talk to Stan. They were still here because I don't think that they realize how much public access is already available on private lands and on all of our PDR farms. I know you're involved with a lot of that, with that group. And they definitely need to make special note of that sort of thing in what they are doing. Because not all of the trails that they are working on are for people walking. Or these people actually allow hiking and walking and horseback riding with those events. And so, they need to also make sure that they include those things in their, excuse me, in the presentation they're working on. We hunt at the pleasure of our landowners. So, but it is an extraordinary privilege that we have. I would like to say that, you know, I think a lot of people forget about how fortunate we are to have Masterson Station and the park, out at Hill where you can ride your horse and also take your dogs. And I think that people forget about that. And, you know, for those of us that are part of the club and have the extraordinary privilege at the permission of the landowners to ride on their farms, we are just forever acknowledging how lucky we are. And citizens of Lexington are so lucky to have these parks. So, we really are. Lexington is a very special place. They just need to make note that not all of our trails are hard surface. Yes, that's correct. Yes, yes. Okay, thank you, Hannah. Margaret? I just want to mention the summer newsletter that Bluegrass Land Conservancy put out. And in that, we talked about the federal award that the Conservancy has received of $45.7 million to acquire conservation easements within the Bluegrass region. Unfortunately, none in Fayette County, but in the Kentucky River Palisades area and also outside of Louisville. So, we should be able to buy a whole lot more easements in the next five years or less. Wonderful, wonderful. So, stay tuned. Phil? Phil Meyer? Well, I'm going to the annual Farm Bureau Legislature Appreciation Dinner tonight at the old courthouse. So, I'm not sure who I'm going to see, but I'm sure the food will be good and the company will be great. Okay, Jim, I'll try to recognize you there in person. And Kathy Plowman said she was going. Yeah. And she will be there. I don't know if Robert's going to be there or not. He looks like he was busy working somewhere today. He's setting up the thing for the dinner tonight. That's why he was coming and going. And he said if we didn't have a quorum to let him know, and he put down his decorations that he was working on, and he would sign on. So, that's where he is. That's all I've got to report. Christine Stanley, I see you're still here. Is there something, a report you want to give us? Hi, good afternoon, everyone. Sorry, I have the flu, but no, I don't have a report. Bless your heart. Get well quick. Is there something we can do for you? Oh, no. I think I just need time. Bless your heart. Is there anything else, Beth? Have we covered everything? We've covered it all. We do have our next meeting. It will be October the 23rd. So, it's going to be before Halloween. You can come in costume if you need to. And Mark, look on your calendar and remember that it falls a little early this time because there are five Wednesdays in October this time. So, it will, it's the regular schedule. It's October 23rd, but a little early. Anything else that anybody needs to tell us? Madam Chair, you were saying earlier about October the, was it October the 25th? Six. The 6th. I think it's the 6th. That was for the trip. That's for us to go to from 2 to 5 p.m. in Frankfurt at the Delegate Hotel for us to get our recognition for what we have done. And we sent the packet of information Beth did to you that tells you that the Helen Dedman Excellence in Preservation Advocacy Award that we're going to get is for preservation advocates, volunteers, or professionals who have shown great commitment of time and resources to further historic preservation across the state. And it says that they have given preference to those who have worked on local and state level issues. And so, we are certainly doing that because by our PDR and preserving these farms, it adds to our agricultural economy and the dollars we bring into the state in all kinds of ways. So, it was, it's going to be a great recognition that they have given us that. So, if at all possible, Beth, we might be able to see if there's some way we could all meet and go together to make it easier for everybody. Okay. And Gloria, Sean Guinea from Commissioner Warren's office did text me and say to tell you all that they're, the Planning Commission will hold an urban growth, a public hearing on the urban growth master plan on October 17th at 1.30 in the council chamber. I'll send that out on email because he said there will also be a draft up next week. So, when that comes out, I'll send all that, but it's October 17th at 1.30. And I will note that I can see that Sean is at least listening to us on the screen, although I've not seen his face. You all, you all come across as very small on my screen, which is why I don't always see your tiny hands without raising them. I'm here listening and Beth covered it. I just thought you all would want to know that that'll be up on the 17th and the draft for the master plan should be available on the website next week. Great. Thank you, Sean. Make sure that Beth gets all the information she needs so we can forward that on to the board members. Will do. Thank you. Great. Thank you, Sean. If there's nothing else, I will tell you that the time is almost 4.30 and we've, again, we've finished in record time with all the business we've had to do. We've covered a lot of bases in that amount of time. I will call for a motion to adjourn. That's from Will. Is there a second? Lots of seconds. Everybody's more anxious to go home this time. So, thank you all very much. Bill and Hannah both had hands up. Jim and a show of hands of those of you who are ready to adjourn for the day. Thank you all. 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