So Yeah So So So So So So So So So So So Longest month of our lives, I guess, but it's nice to be here today. We continue to have changes because we're a commission like everybody else and James Brown, who served so ably from the time I guess we were doing our making our master plan all the way along, has taken a knee on us at this time, but brought us the kind gift of Shayla Lynch. Hello. Good morning. Welcome. So we're so glad to have you on board. And as I said to her, I love people who bring their own name tag. Well done. And I don't know, just we just enjoy each other's company. We run through some things to see what's going on and anywhere you can help us within the government. We appreciate it very much, but I know that Tuesdays can be very long. And when you add a 930 meeting to it makes it even longer. So we really appreciate your commitment to being with us very much. Thank you very, very much. All right, then let's turn to the matters at hand here, which would be the approval of the minutes. If you all had look at them, are there any additions or corrections? Anyone hearing none? I ask for a motion to approve. So moved. Roseanne second. All in favor. I was like sign. I only want to return to these in a couple of spots where we made comments about things to follow up on. We'll do that under, I guess, old business or new business on down through here. And then first up is our phase one application for Waverly Park. Would you like to tee that up for us, ma'am? Good morning. Good morning. Bill Farmer, welcome. Ed Monahan. I'm a resident of Clemens Heights and a resident of Lexington since 1984. And we have a nice little neighborhood park, Waverly Park, in our neighborhood. And a group of volunteers have formed to create the Friends of Waverly Park. And we've been working there for two years to remove invasives and to plant native trees that increase the diversity of the park. So over the last two years, the park has gone on a different, more beautiful trajectory. If you go into the park, the areas that stand out that are a little inconsistent with beauty are the concrete drainage abutments. And so our proposal is to take those concrete drainage abutments, and there are two concrete supports for the basketball nets, and turn them into, paint them and turn them into designs that reflect the native planting that we're doing in the park. Oh, really? And my daughter lives in Meadowthorpe. I walked Meadowthorpe Park. I saw a beautiful mural there that you all supported. I've talked to the Meadowthorpe president. They use Sherry Graham Green. I've talked to her. She's come to Waverly Park. She's majored all the surfaces. She's somebody that has been successful in completing a project. She knows your process. She's very excited about the possibility of creating art on these concrete surfaces at Waverly Park. I've communicated with Councilmember Whitney Baxter. This park is in her area, and she is willing to make the financial match. There are only two small little hurdles. Because of where the water source is at Waverly Park, we cannot get a hose out to all these locations to power wash them through volunteers or otherwise. So we would need parks to power wash the concrete surfaces. And one of the drainage concrete ditches runs through the – bring back the bluegrass area. And we'd need parks to cut the grass on both sides of that because they're not cutting the grass in that area so that there can be access there. And Councilmember Baxter has communicated with Monica Conrad, requesting whether parks can do that or not. I don't know what the answer to that is. But we're eager to have your review of this and hopeful approval. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Just for me, if I'm going to go to Waverly Park, where am I going to go? You're going to go out Clay's Mill Extended, make a right on Twain Ridge, and they make a right on Southmoor Drive. So Waverly Park is between Clay's Mill and Clemens Drive. I have a Sunday drive now. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. We're glad to try to help you. We'll see if there's some questions here. We don't really direct parks and rec, but I'm sure the Councilmember will take care of that on your behalf. All right. Questions, anyone? Thoughts on this fine application process? I think I had either discussed with you or maybe it's in here and I'm just not seeing it right now. How much is Councilmember Baxter contributing? She's willing to contribute $8,910, which would be the full 20 percent match. Right. Okay. And so then the amount you would be asking from the commission would be the $44,550 minus the $8,900. Correct. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Yes, sir, please. Good morning. Good morning. I have a question for you. On this concrete drainage, do I understand you propose to paint that with artwork? Correct. Okay. My question is how will this paint hold up to scoring and heavy debris during runoff? Yeah, that's a good question. The artist that did the mural at Meadowthorpe has put a protective coating on that mural to protect it from graffiti or whatever so that it can be cleaned and maintained. She would do the same on these concrete abutments. Thank you. And the one in Meadowthorpe, how long has that been in play? I'm not an expert on that, but I would guess it's within the last year. The neat thing about what I learned from talking to the president of Meadowthorpe Neighborhood Association about her work in Meadowthorpe was she involved the community. And we want her to meet with the community. We have over 100 people that have been helping us as the Friends of Waverly Park, so we want to have where they communicate with her what they'd like to see there and she can reflect back what she's hearing. So it's very encouraging of her as an artist that she's willing to work with the community. She's a retired special ed teacher in Lexington and very eager to do the work. Thank you. One final comment I have, and this is not to sway you from your proposal, but at McConnell's Trace some years ago, this very same identical situation existed in their park. And it was new construction, and what was done was riprap was placed in these trenches which allowed the greenery and the native grasses to grow in. So you don't even see the drain trench at all, which is an alternative. But not to sway you, I just want to make that comment. Yes. Well, our hope would be that if parks would agree to cut the grass and do the power washing, that they would continue to cut the grass so that these would be visible. And it would also allow people to walk into the Bring Back the Bluegrass area. Recently, within the last half year, we asked parks to come and cut a path through the BBBG area so people could walk in it and enjoy more of that area. And they did that, and they're maintaining that cutting. We spoke with Jeffrey Smith with parks, who is in charge of the grass cutting. So our hope would be that parks would do that again if they agreed to do this, where this would remain exposed and people could actually walk along the side of it and enjoy other parts of the Bring. So it would bring people into the more nature setting of the park. Over in Dogwood Park, which is a larger park, parks is doing the same thing. They're cutting a grass path through the no-mow zone, and so people are able to go in there. I was in that park yesterday. People were walking their dogs through the grass path. This would allow greater use of the Waverly Park and continue to make that visible. So I hope what happened there wouldn't happen in this situation. Thank you, sir. How close in proximity is the mural? Is the mural anywhere close to this project here? No, it's in Meadowthorpe Park. It's in Meadowthorpe. Okay. Waverly Park is off of Clay's Mill Road. Okay. And this will be done with paint. Is there a footage that you're trying to cover? Yes, I think it's 900 square feet. Yeah. What's this? When I contacted the artist, she came to the park. I was there with her. She measured all the areas. So I think it's 900 square feet. 900 square feet. Yeah, that's what's in the proposal. Is there a theme? The theme? Yes, the theme. So one of the women in our Friends of Waverly Park is a retired botanist. And we have another gentleman who is incredibly knowledgeable about plants. They have a passion for native plants. So I've talked to her, and we would like the mural, the painting that she would propose, to reflect floral native plants. We have installed a 100 square feet pollinator garden, which is a very prominent feature in the park. And we're only planting native plants in the park with permission of parks. As a proposal, it would be really a lot better if you give us some kind of visual or some kind of sample idea. They'll do that in Phase 2. Phase 2. Yeah, so this Phase 1 is just to give them permission, approval to move ahead, and then they'll develop their designs. Yeah, and I didn't think it was fair to ask the artist to spend her time creating something unless you all approved it because it's her time. But she has ideas. Oh, that's good. A retired botanist? Is that what you said? A retired... Botanist? Yes. Now that's someone that's gone to seed. I like that. All right. Other questions? I'd like to follow up on Ed's question. Just to clarify, are you talking about painting the drain line itself, like the part that goes in the grass? That's part of it. Other parts of it are concrete abutments that stick up. And then the basketball court has two concrete supports. Yeah. Well, so how active are these drains? Is that what you're going to say? This is my point. As a civil engineer, that concerns me. This is water runoff that's not going to be treated. So this will enter our waterways. So my concern would be if you're painting the concrete channel that's specifically designed to direct the flow of water, the water over time will erode the paint. And I'm worried about the contaminants of the water. So I would be okay if you paint the exterior walls, walls that do not interact with the water itself. But anything that will be up against the flow of water would produce contaminants for the environment. That would be my primary concern. He did mention that there will be some type of UV protection for the art. I would kind of recommend there may be a different type of protection that kind of seals away the water or any type of things like that to protect the art itself. Otherwise, it will just wash away within two to three years. I honestly don't know of anything except for, like, swimming pool paint. With swimming pool paint, you're not running off into public waters. Yeah, every time it would rain, it would wash away. Have you seen this anywhere? Did you get this idea from somewhere that you saw this? This is just our group wanting to take something that's really an eyesore and turn it into something that's beautiful. I commend you for that. I agree. I would love if we could paint all of our concrete structures. But there's a reason why we can't do that. It's environmentally safe. We don't want to contaminate our downstreams. So that would be my concern. I would definitely seek the approval of the Division of Water Quality. I would just ‑‑ I can't imagine them being okay with that. So I would be okay if we could reach a compromise on painting the exterior walls. But anything that water is going to be rushing up against continuously every rain event would probably not work. That would be my take on this. And that would not have been part of our conversation when we did the one in Meadowthorpe, because that was on the building side. So this is a different application. We need to demonstrate the policy here a little bit, which I think you all are on to. Hey, Mon, did you hear anything or no? Yeah, they pretty much said it. It's more of the environmental side of it as well as the art life. It will be two, three years before it starts to pass away. Is it possible to just amend this to have only the sides of the abutment, and then if you omit the part that is interacting with water, flowing water, then it could be amended? You took that back to the group. Do you think that would be a possibility to amend this application? Of course. I think that rather than have him amend this now, let's have him... In phase two. Bring it back in phase two. In phase two. But that's what I mean. If that could be eliminated, I think we'd all feel a little better about that. And I think we should investigate what Mr. Mackey said about McConnell's Trace, where they put riprap in and let it grow something into it. That would take it. It's a different kind of art, but it's biological. It would work. So maybe kind of take those up with your artist in your group, too. There's a possibility that there's another way to cover that, but not with a material that's painted on or added to. How does that sound? Our goal is simple. Our goal is simple. We want to beautify our neighborhood park to the extent that we can get help from this commission, to the extent the commission is comfortable with it. We want to do that. I believe we're glad to help. We're all ears. If you have expertise that we don't, we're all ears. All right. Are there kinds of environmentally, like, low VOC paints that would be robust enough for exterior use like this? Does anyone know if that would be an option or not? I'm not aware. But just speaking to the riprap idea, so these are energy dissipation methods. So this is a way of slowing the flow of water to avoid erosion. So, as you can see in your pictures, they've chosen the method of a concrete channel. So that's designed to convey the flow of water so that it doesn't erode the earth, the surface of the grass and whatnot. There are other methods to beautify the surroundings. You can see them around town. We use bioswales. We use bioretention. These are where we have native species plants that provide a water quality treatment aspect to it as well. So there are ways to incorporate, like you were talking about with the native species of plantings and removing invasives to kind of beautify the space. And that method, kind of talking about with the riprap and having, you know, greenery grow through that. But there are ways to kind of beautify. I mean, this is something that we do all the time because everyone sees concrete headwalls and has the same reaction. So there are other ways. I'm not sure about paint. It's just you're talking about a constant flow of every rainfall of just washing this away. I'm not sure if there's something that exists in that method. But there are other ways to improve stormwater facilities that all exist in our stormwater BMP manual for the Lexington Bay County government. So if you need any resources, I can help you with that. Like I say, we're all ears. We want to beautify the park. So maybe, Andrew, if you might be able to provide him some resources for looking into that kind of thing. Maybe there could be a combined, you know, that the basketball portions, the exterior walls could be a public art commission supported area. But then to look at another option for the interior spaces. So maybe it could be a revised proposal, but that would only include the part where we could actually put paint. The wing walls and the base of the two basketballs, something. Wing walls in the back or something. Well, the question then becomes, have you considered other areas in the park? To do paintings? We don't have many other surfaces. Oh, no. How about the sidewalks? You know, there is a .6 mile walking path. We hadn't thought about the sidewalks. That's a possibility. I mean, you know, you want to be able to get the visual on to an active surface where people are interacting with it, you know. And that was the other thing, even with this plan, you know, where would people interact with this kind of, this water area, you know? I didn't really see how people would come into that part. Well, you know, what I'm hearing is that this, you all do not see that as functional. But what we were hoping is parks would cut the grass on both sides of that and then people could use that as a turf path. But the concrete abutments that we have pictures of are right along the walking path. So they're highly visible. One of them is visible from the street on Twain Ridge as you look down into the park. But the three concrete abutments that we have pictures of are all right along the walking path. And the way Waverly is designed, you walk in, you walk down, you walk around, and you come back around up this way. And you can see all of these concrete abutments from anywhere you're on that walking path. So these would be highly accessible visual objects to people walking the path for this whole half the side of Waverly. I have a question. Yes, ma'am. Were you, just to clarify, were you considering the channels themselves to be painted? The concrete channel? Yeah. And were you considering that in your square foot? That's part of our proposal, yes. Okay. So that would, taking that out would reduce your square footage? It would, yes. Quite a bit. Okay. The other second question I had is in the phase two proposal, if you could maybe break down how you came up with the $45 per square foot, how that is achieved? Yes. Okay. The artist, Sherry Graham Green, who painted the mural at Meadowthorp through a grant that I believe you all provided, has in that process provided a more detailed budget and explanation. Okay. And she's ready to do that. You know, one of the advantages of using her is she has experience with you all. And you all have found her satisfactory. Sure. We like her and she's interested in community input. And on the financial side, you all found her satisfactory in the Meadowthorp project. But she would do that detailed budget. Okay. Thank you. Anyone else? I think you've gotten really good input and some opportunities for people to help you with this. And I think that your artist will, too. This is someone we're familiar with in that work. This is just a different frame. We're painting a different picture here. We need to take into consideration the water aspect of this and the wear aspect. And we want you to have something pretty to look at out there for all of us for that matter. So if you might just take that up with her and then maybe bring us a few more pictures for phase two. Or maybe a little map of the park or something. I don't know. Just to doll it up a little bit. Wouldn't that just be part of that packet in the phase two, all those things would be in there? Phase two, they would submit real images, design concepts. And I was just going to mention when you said, you know, that you don't have a lot of surface, other surface area in the park, you could also consider the basketball court creating, you know, not just the poles, but creating imagery on the surface itself at either end or borders. I mean, there have been a lot of projects like that that utilize basketball courts to add visual interest and beautify things. Or the sidewalks, as Gary mentioned. Good suggestion. So there are, I think, some other possibilities other than pursuing the actual drain area. Heather will help you, too. Say that again, please. Heather will help you, too. I will try. Yeah, and I'm happy to share, you know, any resources. Andrew's a great resource for a lot of our projects. If you're interested in, you know, getting some other ideas. Yeah, we would be. We would be. Great. I really want to say, though, I, you know, as we were so appreciative of Metathorpe's process, and I really appreciate the process that you and the Neighborhood Association are engaging in with just involvement, a lot of thought, working with the artist, and, you know, that's a really, really great model. And so I really appreciate the way that you all are approaching the project. And, gosh, it's so wonderful to have Neighborhood Associations interested in, you know, beautifying their own parks. So thank you for that. I'm very proud of the work that our volunteers have done over the last two years. I'm just a small part of it. But we really have changed the trajectory of this park, and I'm very proud of it. Parks and recreation, the city arborists have been extremely supportive, and we're creating something for the next generation to enjoy even at a higher level. This art would enhance that. Thank you so much. We appreciate you coming down. We'll help you with the phase two. We're not saying no. We're just giving you a little bit of trim on the sails here to move forward. So we appreciate your time today very much. Delighted to be here. Thank you for your consideration. We look forward to seeing you again. We appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Monahan. A really excellent discussion. I love that we take up different things and find out different interesting background points. I think it's just so very interesting. All right, the next step is the review of the construction drawings and the project update for the Lexington Freedom Train, We have some really nice displays here on that right now, right before us. So who's going to lead that discussion? Good morning. Good morning. So I'll just give you an update. Please, I forgot your name, if you would. Larry Kiesel. Welcome. Pull that up a little bit closer to you, if you would. Very good. Thank you. All right. We're doing really well. In the fundraising part, in the education part, and especially in the creation of the monument. We've learned that there are a couple of other things that I didn't consider as much, like the landscape plan, which is also a big part of this, which will happen later. But as far as the monument goes, it's just amazing. I went down in the end of November and the beginning of December, and I took that photo. And I don't know, probably most of you understand the process of creating a monument like this. I didn't. And I've been fascinated with it. Our artist, Basil Watson, started with a maquette, which was about four foot tall, very detailed, in clay. They take that four foot maquette and they do a 3D imaging sort of thing with the Styrofoam. The blue there is the Styrofoam. And they make it identical to his four foot model. It's about, I guess, eight or nine foot tall. It will be on a 30 inch pedestal. But then they make this Styrofoam model one half inch smaller, trimmer, shorter than the actual monument will be. And then he applies half an inch of clay to the Styrofoam. It's meticulous. He's been working on it for probably six months. I took this in the end of November, and currently the entire thing is covered in clay. But the clay allows the artist to do fine details like the lips and the eyebrows and buttons and lace and clothing, the cloth. And it's just amazing. And when we walked into his studio and saw this huge, huge statue, it was just overwhelming. And Nathan went down and met with them again since when they had the clay finished on it. And his response was exactly identical to mine. Wow. So that's the progress of the actual statue. It will then, in the next week or two, he'll be sending it to the foundry. And they create a mold over this entire thing. And then they will pour it in bronze. And we're very excited about that. It will probably be another two months until that is done. We're still looking at a Juneteenth unveiling. I'm not sure that all of the landscaping details will be done, but certainly the statue, we're hoping, will be done. As far as the landscaping goes, we've been very fortunate. We were connected with a landscaping firm called TSW. They opened an office in Lexington, I don't know, a couple of years ago. Their main headquarters is in Atlanta, where Mr. Watson's studio is, so they've been working close together and they've met a couple of times, and we've met with them. They presented us with three plans for the landscaping, which include the plaza itself, whatever material, if it's going to be limestone or if it's going to be concrete, or what, seating, lighting, signage, and landscape plants, trees or whatever. They presented us with three plans, and they all were great. They had interesting aspects, but they were pretty complicated. The committee wanted something more simple, so we gave them direct feedback on each plan, the items that we liked on each of the plans. I just got an email from Brian, the head guy at TSW in Atlanta, yesterday, and he said that within two weeks we'll have the plan that they've merged, the three, and simplified, and we're all excited to see that as well. Any questions? I just appreciate your process description. That was beautifully done about how that's being created. It's fascinating. Yes, it is. And who would have thought that you would just think you'd start with one piece of whatever and carve it out, but it's not that way at all. Gary knows better than anybody. I was going to say, I was going to defer to Gary and go, okay, what do we ask now? It's a lot of work. That is a lot of work. Where's the foundry? Do we know? Where's it going to be? It's in Georgia, and I asked her if we could maybe be there for the poor, and she said they're going to try. His daughter is his business partner, and they're going to try and arrange that for us. What a fun trip. What a fun trip. Other technical comments? Other questions about the process? Yes, sir. I had a question. Maybe this is coming up. But is there a site plan? I see where it's going to be located, but is there a site plan that shows how this sits on the property? Well, that will be part of this landscaping plan. We know where the statue will sit, and it should be on your engineering plans for the – it's not on there? Okay. Then I guess we're waiting for the landscaping plan to exactly sit. Wasn't there something when we first considered this, when we looked at it, that kind of showed where it would be placed on the property? I'm not positive about that. Well, it's a small piece of property. It's 20 foot by 40 foot, so it will be centered in that 20-foot section, but I'm not sure it will be closer. The idea is that it will be closer to 4th Street than to downtown, but the actual detail hasn't been done. But all three plans sort of placed it in that general area, closer to 4th on the corner. And there's like that little – I don't know if it's a storm water area that's sort of a deep – so it's going to be behind that, like on the school side of that? No, it's going to be on the front of it. It's going to be on the front side of the – Between the sidewalk and that drainage basin. Okay. Oh, okay. But closer to 4th. Yes. To the corner. And will it face 4th Street? Well, that was a subject of a lot of debate. Which way do you want to see the back? Do you want to see the front? And as far as I know, the main idea was that they would be pointing north to Freedom, where they were heading, so they would be sort of heading out of town. But we also wanted it not – we don't want to see their back coming down 4th Street, so it was going to be turned a little bit. Maybe we'll cheat a little bit. It won't be exactly north, but just heading in that basic direction. So you can see at least a side view of them. It'll be good to see that site plan. Yes, we're excited, too. Would that be subject of another follow-up, then? Well, I think, you know, this – It's an important piece of artwork. One of these projects are so different. I think at this point, they have not received any funding from us yet. And when we approved it with the Phase 2, it was contingent upon then receiving construction documents. And so, you know, they have provided these. I guess it would be for us to decide if it is appropriate now to release funding. You know, it will be divvied up, not all at once. But, you know, if it's appropriate now or if you feel that a site plan is critical to have first before any funds would be released. Well, I think we're in a partnership, and I think we can move along a little bit. I do think we want to maintain some control over that because I think this is an important piece of artwork in an important place, and we want to make sure it's well-suited there. And I think to see that plan would be very important to our, say, completing the process, as it were. If I might, the third phase is coming up in which we were to divvy up another $100,000. And so, if we could have that, we would pay the artist, and it's strictly to complete the art to the foundry. Yeah, I think the last page of the proposal are their phases. And Nathan had just sent a little e-mail saying they've completed Phase 2 and are within Phase 3, I guess. So we would just have to decide, you know, if we did want to release, if we could release some of the funding, you know, what would that amount be? Sure. And then would be asking them to come back with those site plans. Sure. ASAP. We'll be happy to bring the site plan. I'll be happy to see it myself. I do want to add, the site plan is critical because if there's stormwater drainage facilities on this property, we need to see how that relates to where the existing stormwater, if there's a swale or a detention basin or something there, we want to have that clear. Right, we'll be happy to do that. I might add that I've lived across the street for 44 years, and I've never seen water in that basin, ever. Yeah. That means it works well. It means it works. Yes, sir, it does. All right. What would be the pleasure of the commission, then, to? I would just like to know what's needed. I mean, you know, with any project like this, cash flow, I think, is always an issue, like, for you all in terms of paying the artists. I would just like to know what would be needed in this, you know, over the next two weeks. You know, site plans, hopefully, will be coming soon. So what is needed in the immediate term? We have commitments for cash, of course. But we don't have the $100,000 in cash. We have $50,000 or whatever available now for this third phase. And so it would be nice to have the third phase covered with this grant, because we have other expenses coming up. So would an additional, like, would $50,000 of these funds meet your all's need? I'm just making sure I'm hearing that correctly. You have $50,000 on hand, and then you would need another $50,000 to complete this phase? For now, it would put the Band-Aid on. Yes. You know, I will say there is some time involved in getting the contract prepared. And so anything, you know, unfortunately, if we're saying we would give you $50,000 now and $50,000 more in three weeks, the first contract may not even be ready in three weeks. So maybe we need to look a little forward, and we could have it in hand. I mean, do you have a sense of when the site plan might be ready? He said he would present their plan to us within a week or two. Okay. And then, of course, the committee has to review it and decide. Right. I mean, how would you feel if he was able to submit to us the site plan, and I was able to distribute that by e-mail, do you feel like that would be something folks could look at via e-mail without waiting for the next meeting? Yep. Great. Okay. And then I could go ahead and get the contract going with the idea that maybe it could be for a full 100. Would that make sense to everyone? And that's our total commitment on this, isn't it? Yes. And then by the time it's done, the contract is complete, we would have your site plans, and everyone would be able to sign off on that. How does that sound? Sounds good. Would that work? Mr. Wallace. Okay. So I'm going to say it again just to make sure that it's when we ‑‑ I always have to go back to the minutes and make sure I am following what we've decided. So I'm going to ‑‑ you're going to send me the site plans, hopefully in a week or two, and I'm going to send them out to the commission. I'm going to go ahead and start a contract that will detail that we'll be providing 100,000 upon receipt and approval of the site plans, and then I'll go ahead and the contract will also include the remaining payments to get up to that 245. It will detail that 100 will be received upon receipt and approval of the site plan, and then I would say another 100 upon probably installation, and then the remaining 45 is after the project is done. Complete. Does that make sense to you all? Well, that's just to keep in mind in the process of where the artist is right now is ready to go to foundry. Okay? And that's where the real cost is going to come in. Okay? Because they've got to melt the metal, pour it into mold. Oh, that's the deal. Put it together, weld it, all that good stuff, and then start chasing it. So that's valuable and important. How do you propose the distribution be? I would say the largest amount as soon as possible. Because, I mean, you don't want to hold up that process. Once it goes to the foundry, it's ready to go. I mean, we do have established guidelines for these projects that had already been predetermined in terms of percentages, and that was for projects over 100,000 or less than 100,000. So, I mean, I think we need to pretty much adhere to those predetermined percentages, and otherwise we're going to be making these decisions randomly for every single project. And I'm sorry I didn't bring it with me, but there is specific language, and it is written in the contracts that determines, like, 30% at this point. And you all have sort of, you're sort of mid, you know, with a lot of projects, we would have already given you money if we'd had the construction documents, you know, that there would be money early and then it gets divvied up, like, into five. But we're sort of collapsing this into what will be three payments. So, I don't know. Mr. Walz. Yeah, my question, I was reviewing all the construction document notes. So, the site plan that you're going to produce, is that going to include erosion control, survey of utilities, grade and drainage? Is that part of their package? Well, they're taking into consideration the basin, I know, and I'm really not sure what else will be involved in it, the seating, the lighting, the grade, and obviously where the statue will be located. Okay. So, once they have that package ready, we can review that. But you'll also need to submit to the city for a land disturbance permit. And to do that, you'll need to have a contractor selected. Have you selected the contractor? No, because we don't have a plan yet. Okay. Sorry, I was just making assumptions. I'm just letting you know, that's what's going to be next, is you're going to have those plans. We'll look at them. But then, once the contractor's on board, then you'll have to submit that to the city for a land disturbance permit. They'll have to come out and do an inspection, check all of your erosion control before any construction can begin. So, just wanted to bring that to attention. We just went through this on the detention center project, so that's part of the process. Outside of the commission, you'll have to involve LFECG engineering as well. Heather had laid out kind of a, do we need a motion? Go ahead, please. So, I'll go ahead and make a motion, I guess. To authorize the release of $100,000 of the budgeted funds and scheduling the disbursement of the remaining funds conditional on the receipt and approval of site plans. Is that good? Is that enough? Motion? Anyone? A second? Thank you, ma'am. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. On opening night we're having a reception for all of the singers and forever steel, who is the grant. Great, great nice of William still. To whom this opera is dedicated because he was noted as the father of the Underground Railroad. So it's all tied together. Everett is beside himself with excitement. And if any of you can make it to the opera, I think it will be worth it. And if you can come to our fundraiser afterwards right at the Opera House, it would even be better. So would that be on the 9th then? That's on the 7th, opening night. The libretto for this opera is actually written from writings of William Still. Which I think is fascinating and amazing. And also Sanctuary Road is one of the 250 Lex grant projects. So I am delighted that you all are partnering for these two really amazing projects. So that's great. That's wonderful. Thank you. Excellent additional comment. Thank you very, very much. We appreciate it so much. Congratulations on everything to this point. It's beautiful. Thank you. Well done. Which brings us to the review of phase one application. Michelle Armstrong, Cardinal Valley is what it says here. And Michelle could not be here because she teaches. She's a teacher. But this is a phase one. As you may recall, she had done the project in Valley Park with her students at Cardinal Valley. Yes, I do remember. Yes. And so this is another project, the Wolf Run. I'm sorry. I'm not sure if it's Wolf Run Neighborhood Association or Wolf Run something else. But they have contacted her to do another project. And this is also to paint storm drains in the park. But I believe from what she did not send me images. But I believe these are storm drains that are surface, like the way they've been painted in downtown Lexington. It's like the top. Above the curb. Above the curb. Yeah. And I will double check that. I am fairly certain. And Michelle has done these kinds of projects before. So I'm fairly certain that is the reality. And they're not asking us for any money because Wolf Run is going to provide the funds. So she was just looking. She's going to be working with the students on the designs over this semester. And then would come back with the phase two to show us the actual designs. So, again, kind of a repeat customer kind of. Yeah. Because on your earlier point, I do like the organic nature of the conversation between neighborhood associations. The fact that public art is part of a conversation across the city, which is kind of at the basis of what we're working on here. So we need, unless there are questions about this, we don't really need to take any action on it today, I don't believe. Just we would vote that it's okay. We approve for her to move on to the phase two. Okay. And that, you know, we approve it at this point for it to become a phase two project. I make a motion to approve this project. Will you put on your mic, please? I make a motion to approve Michelle Armstrong's proposal to work with her art students on painting the storm drains in Carnaval. The phase one application. Phase one. Yes, sir. Motion. Second? Second. Seconded, sir. Any other comments, questions, anyone? All those in favor there? Aye. All right. We'll look forward to that. The other one was very good, too. All right. Old business, new business. All right. For me, I haven't been out. I'm sorry. It's been a cold month, and I didn't go in December. How does the detention center thing look? Does it look good? Well, I think it looks fantastic. I'm very excited about it. The installation went really perfectly. They had assembled it outside of Louisville before they ever brought it down here just to make sure everything was going to work. And so it was a lovely thing to watch, amazing, really. It went so quickly. However, I was all anxious to get the dedication done. Yes, ma'am. And then we had horrible weather. And now, since we're into February, I'm thinking, you know, there's going to be a garden installed, and there's going to be lighting installed. The lighting is not there yet. And I just thought it would be better to wait until we have that planting bed around it, even if we don't have, you know, we can put some potted plants there for starters, but maybe it will just be better to wait until early spring, and then we could have a nice day and people could get a better idea of the full. But Chief Colvin at the detention center absolutely loves it, is delighted. Other staff there, they've been talking about it a lot. So I've, you know, gotten a lot of great feedback. So I'm very happy about that. I think to go back when it's in bloom would be appropriate. I think we could have another opportunity. Yeah, at least to have that planting bed there and also the lights on because it's going to be pretty dramatic at night. Oh, good. And, you know, the traffic there is 24 hours, so people will see it a lot at night. I like the idea. Yeah, there's a plan. There's electricians. Oh, no, he's talking with them. They had a couple of dates and then totally got blown out by the weather. So now I think they're rescheduling, and I haven't heard the new time. I like the idea of waiting until the planting is finished. And I also want to take a moment just to thank Andrew for all the work he did on this. It's unbelievable. We're a volunteer board, but he has volunteered beyond measure. Thank you. Beyond, I'm sure, what he'd ever imagined. I was trying to avoid that and make sure that was okay. It's greatly appreciated. And really the whole team and commission, I mean, we did a lot of prior work and meeting with the community and the detention center and the business park, and I think all of that was really great time well spent and informed a lot. What are you hearing from the detention center and the staff? They love it. Yeah. I mean, Chief Colvin came down. Yeah, I saw him. Yeah, I mean, he was having his picture taken, and, you know, no, he's very excited and has been disappointed that we've had to cancel now twice the ribbon cutting, but we're just letting him know that now we're going to wait for spring. But, yeah, he's got his speech ready. Oh, wow. Wow. That's great. So I'm just thrilled, you know, that he is so happy with it. I mean, that's one of the inspirational things here is we've made new friends and brought new people to conversation. I think it's very important. Absolutely. It really is very important. And I will say also just, you know, the power of art, folks. You know, I did a project with them, a mural in the detention center cafeteria, which was not a public art project because it's not open to the public. But that went wonderfully with a local artist, Derrick King, a muralist, and he was so fantastic and they loved him so much. And then we did this project, and now Chief Colvin is very excited about it and now wants to bring in an art class into the detention center. Well done. Yay. So I'm working with that artist to start that. So, you know, one thing has led to the other, and I'm just really, really happy about that. What a fine collaboration all the way around. All right. And then I just want to highlight just a little bit of a discussion from last time about our scoring process, and we had some comments about it. I don't have an answer there. I just don't want to forget about it because it was an area where we got into a little murkiness of our own, and I don't know how we want to take that discussion back up. I actually have made revisions, some revisions, and I was afraid our agenda was too full. That's all fine. Today I wasn't sure since we had three projects. But I will definitely be bringing it forward for the next one, next meeting. But I've just, based on comments and things made, I have made changes to the scoring sheet, and so I hope that will be more useful. Then do we have other things in the pipeline? Have people been asking you about opportunities elsewhere? Well, I'm waiting on, you know, Town Branch. They have contacted a few times to say, oh, we're almost ready. But, you know, we have committed funds to that project in the tunnel. Yes, ma'am. But we haven't received their construction drawings or anything yet. It was a hefty amount, as I recall. Yes. And you can see things are going on. It's taking shape is what I would say. I mean, we're, you know, as I keep, I just spoke to a U.K. class, and I, you know, each class I talk to, I update my little PowerPoint, and, you know, I constantly have new projects to add that new public art going up. So, you know, that's great. That's a really neat thing, and I'm just very happy to see that continuing to build. So thank you all. Thank you for all those. Any other updates, questions, anyone? Motion to adjourn is always in order. We look forward to seeing you next month. Thank you very much. Thank you all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I don't know just how far that I can go. Just how far that I can go. Soon to be home, only just a few miles down the road. I can make it, I know that I can. You broke a boy and me, but you won't break no man. I can see a new horizon underneath your blazing sky. I'll be where the eagle's flying higher and higher. Gonna be a man in motion, all I need is a pair of wheels. 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