ვაღარა დცს მელქლ ვაღყბაპის დელარდის ვაღიბარარელ ვაღელის ვრეგვიჟაშ მიოჴ ვღენულინფ ენს გაღა� დცვაღენნუ ვაღენნუ ვრევრ არგტევე რერს ბოე, დერლ დინი, ღეჟგლ რიდბნა რერერებოვარიდა, ანდგოე სილოილწერილა რერსბოე რერლასენს თისინ, სილოე სისინრე რისი� სილი მინთმ რისინერე, რისიბა რრთლუალერე, სილილღდე უყნოერეროთ სადაბე კარანდაღდერს რერრე რისუსოინერერერე ვისოერგერე მი� Diversity ლისტვინერერე მარვiბოდბინეუერერე მახერე შელალალილაანინე ვირერერე. ნბიერერე ოადაბრე. ნბიერე ოიდს ადადრ ენლუალიერერეებადადალ ღანვა სკქსლარირლრერტულ ანვოლ რდეეროოკ ღანვოცობ რდთიოი რღნანრულრისთგ commericans ღანვნეროკერაა რრონიხა რრიხა წულჯიაა ღანვიხა რშდისთროიხა ღანნერმაოიჯდიმანრფბნ რდიხა ამიყულ რდიხა რიხა რიხა რიხა Chair, Dr. Stephanie Raglan. Present. Vice Chair, Tara Stanfield. Present. Kimberly Baird. Here. Sierra Bowman. Here. Chief Weathers or the designee. John Moses. Here. Connie Neal. Margaret Pesciano. Here. Dale Sanders. Here. Dr. Matt Webster. Here. Dr. Mark Woods. Here. Lori Brock. And Angela Evans. Thank you. We have a quorum. Thank you so much. All right. All right. You have in front of you the agenda for today. And so I'd ask to receive adoption of the proposed agenda. Dale Sanders, I would move we would accept the agenda as proposed. All right. Is there a second? I'll second. All those in favor? Aye. Anybody opposed? Motion carried. Thank you so much. In your packet, you have the minutes from the September 27th board meeting. So if you'll take a moment to go over those minutes, then we'll receive approval. Thank you. Minutes from the last meeting, you said what was the date? It does say September 27th. It does? Does it say that? Uh-oh. Okay. I must have picked up the wrong agenda. This is the one I picked up out there. I don't know. Ours says February 14th. Okay. Hold on a second. Hold on. This is an old one. Thank you. Let me clarify the minutes from February 14th. It is 2025. This is October 2024. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Bowman makes a motion to approve the minutes. All right. Is there a second? Second. Is there any unreadiness? All right. All those in favor? Aye. Anybody opposed? Motion carried. Can you please tell us who seconded the minutes? Commissioner Evans. All right. In front of you we have met for the executive board meeting on March the 6th. And I want to thank Vice Chair Stanfield for starting the meeting in my absence until I could get there. As it relates to the old business, we talked about myself and Connie Neal and also Vice Chair Stanfield and Kimberly Bair have been reappointed to the Opioid Abatement Commission. I believe that's correct. Yeah. And also Angela Evans. And so we are thankful and grateful that we all have been reappointed to serve for four more years to this commission. In lieu of that, let me just take a moment to give a moment of appreciation to Dr. Matt Webster who will not be coming back with us. But I just want to take an opportunity to say thank you for your work. Thank you for your leadership with us, especially on the executive board. And we will miss you here, but we hope to see you around. So I just want to say openly thank you for all that you've done. All right. All right. We talked about the frequency of the executive committees moving forward, whether we will be meeting monthly or not. And of course we have tabled that until such time that new members of the executive board are appointed by the chair, whoever the chair might be. Because we will be having elections upcoming, not in April, because we have to look at the date for April to see if there will be enough of us to hold that meeting or if we need to move it to the May meeting. And so we will be again having elections coming up for this commission and then whoever the new chair is, that chair will then appoint an executive committee. All right. We talked about, to make the meetings of the board more cohesive, we talked about creating a speech to instruct the presenters before their presentations that talks about what the board's responsibilities are. Also the time limit about speaking in the mic because sometimes it's hard for everyone to hear. And so we're going to be working on that. Our coordinator, Carmen, wants to meet with the mayor for the next steps in the recommendation process as we have moved forward. Our recommendations have been submitted. We have not heard anything at this point, but we want to hear from the mayor on the next steps of the recommendation process. I also am going to be talking with John and also Sierra to continue with the workgroups in thinking about further recommendations that we will be making to the mayor and what that looks like. Okay. We also talked about ensuring that everybody is here so that we can make sure that we have enough for voting processes. And on March the 12th, and that was just yesterday, no, the day before yesterday, two days ago, the mayor held a press conference to talk about the substance use disorders efforts. And so there was representatives from UK, paramedicine, the Fayette County Health Department, and the SUDI program. And so there was an invitation for those who could to be present. And we talked about the agenda for this meeting and that was the end of the executive board meeting that was held on March the 6th. Alright. Any questions for the executive board? And let me again just thank the entire board and the executive board for the work that you have done over the last year. We've come a long way and we've made it to this point and it would not have happened without all of us coming together to put our expertise together. So I appreciate the work that you all have done. And also to Carmen and Crystal and to Brittany, our attorney, we thank you. I just got to give a lot of kudos today. What do you think? Got to give people their flowers while they're living, right? Because when they're gone, they can't smell them. That's what I believe. The weather changes. Is that what that is? The weather's changing. Alright. And so we need to, for just a moment, to talk about the April 11th meeting. We know that it's springtime and it is also spring break for many folks who have school-age children. And maybe those that just want to go to Florida because that's where the weather is nice and warm and you can get in the waters. So we want to make sure that there's enough of us to have the meeting on next, on that second Friday in April. And so I want to open it up for some discussion. I want us to look at our calendars to ensure that we are going to be able to meet or if we need to do something different for that meeting. So if you take a moment and do that. I know I'm going to be here, so. I will not be here. Okay. So that's Sierra. I will not be here either. Tara. That's two. I will not be there. That's three. Matt. I know we're going to miss you, Matt. I should be here. Yeah, this is officially Matt's last meeting with us. We should have had a party today. Anybody else going to be here? I'll be here. Alright, so that's three. So that should be enough for quorum. Yes? Yeah. I believe Connie said that she would be here. Okay. So then we will meet on April the 11th. Okay? And at such time, I believe we can hold elections. Yes? Okay. So then we will meet on April the 11th. Okay? And at such time, I believe we can hold elections. Yes? And so we need to be thinking about who we want to be the chair for the Opioid Abatement Commission the upcoming year. And also be thinking, also if you want to continue to serve on the executive board, because whoever that person is will need to know those names. And if you have an interest in serving. So be thinking about those two things as we prepare for our April 11th meeting. Alright. That's just one agenda item. We'll do the rest later. Okay? Alright. Carmen is one of our, this is one of our presenters. This is our only presenter for today. You know, Carmen is with us a lot, but she's going to come to us today and talk about the Substance Abuse Intervention Program. Alright. Her and Scott Llewellyn. Yes. Good morning everybody. We're going to be brief. We're not going to read directly from the PowerPoint and what you all have in front of you. That's not necessary. But we're going to discuss our program, the Substance Abuse Intervention Program here at LFUCG. And the importance of continuing funding opportunities so that this program can not only continue, but hopefully grow. Okay. So you mentioned a press conference that was held this week. And we were highlighting our partnerships throughout the community to highlight the decline in overdose deaths. In 2023 we had 177 fatal overdoses, and in 2024 we had 120. So we saw, it was about a 32% decrease. So we definitely need to continue the great work that we're doing throughout the community, through our program, as well as the partnerships with our harm reduction programs, the referral efforts that our outreach coordinator, as well as others do through mental health, places like the Empath Center, all of these great community partners. We don't want to not mention, I mean, we could stand here for days and just go on and on and on about all the different partnerships. But all of the voices of hope, just everybody, it's just great to be able to work in a multidisciplinary approach to reach more people together. But again, it's very important for us to kind of be the center of that so that we can keep that moving forward. So I have with me today Scott Lou Allen, who is our overdose, our outreach coordinator. Alright, so I'm just going to, like I said, talk about our program. Our substance use program is funded through, of course, the city, as well as a grant that we have through SAMHSA. And that grant was originally a grant that was with our first responders, as well as UKRF, who are represented here in the room today. So we'd like to say thank you for their efforts in the evaluation process and data collection. We also are behind RSLA, which is Recovery Supported Living Assistance. We also support the Mayor's Substance Use Disorder Advisory Committee, as well as the Opioid Abatement Commission. So a lot of this you guys are familiar with. Okay, so the SAMHSA grant is a four-year grant, and right now we are on our third year. So the grant year starts in October, so we are approaching the last year of our grant. Our grant allows us the ability to be able to purchase Naloxone, to, again, partner with the Lexington-Fayette County Harm Reduction Program, as well as the University of Kentucky, to collect that data and evaluate the program that we have. So we're thankful for that. It's been going since 2019, before my existence here. But it's been going, and it's been going great. And it's just our fear that, you know, with everything that's changing, we want to make sure that we're able to continue, because we are running on soft money, federal dollars. So goal one is to provide the Naloxone, to be able to administer it throughout the community, or distribute it throughout the community, I should say. And goal two is to provide the Naloxone training and overdose to first responders and just everybody in the community. That training literally lasts just a couple of seconds. We have... I like to do these. Scott's like, no, we don't need that. But we have these trainers, and we can go out to schools or wherever we need to go. It's like a little fake Naloxone trainer, just to show kind of what to do in the case of an emergency for an overdose. The good thing about this is that it will not hurt you. Should it be a heart attack, or someone has had a seizure, or whatever the case may be, you can actually administer this, and it's not going to cause any side effects based on that. It just reverses the overdose effect. So again, our grant is $499,997, and the majority of that is divided between those partners that I mentioned before to be able to provide the services that we're able to put out in the community. So we wanted to continue our partnerships, of course, and alleviate any barriers that we may have in the community. So that brought us to doing more of a non-traditional approach to distributing the Naloxone throughout the community. Again, I touched base early about the overdose numbers, and you can see the red represents the fatal overdoses, and the blue represents the non-fatal from years 2022 to present, or to 2024, I should say. And the non-fatal overdoses, thankfully we have, again, that partnership with Paramedicine, where they provide their quick response team, they do follow-up, and we want to continue our partnership with them as it pertains to potentially maybe starting to administer the first dose of Suboxone. And there's just a lot of opportunities there, and we want to definitely be able to continue those conversations to tap into those opportunities to help the people of our community. So implementing outreach, Scott's going to go over that, it's more of a non-traditional approach. We want to meet people where they are, we want them to be comfortable in the services provided. We want to be able to build relationships so that they understand there's transparency in the services that we do. They come to us in the time of need instead of in the time of crisis to do prevention. We also want to touch base before Scott takes over. We have been seeing a lot of things going on with the sober living homes, and so we are trying to be proactive in that effort to help everyone involved, meaning the community as well as those that are needing those sober living homes, the owners and operators, just so it all runs smoothly. We're working with the state so that everybody can be in compliance, but again, it's not just something that one individual or one organization can do, but we are working to do our best in those efforts. So Scott will take it over from here to talk about the outreach efforts. Hey everybody. So the first four years of the grant, the first two, what my position looked like was we coordinated heavily, and we still do, with the harm reduction team at the Health Department of Johnston, nurses, and the people that work there. So that's what that looked like the first two or three years. Then COVID hit and it was a nightmare. They had restrictions on their program, so we did a lot of video training and things like that, but we realized there was an opportunity if I could become a trainer, that I could start doing different kind of street outreach. And Seth Lockard trained me, and so at the beginning of the second part of this grant, roughly three years ago, I was able to start going out in the community on my own and start training and distributing Narcan. And it's been a game changer. And it was recognized by SAMHSA and they had us come up and talk about it and how we're doing this program. So what that looks like, what my day looks like, what my week looks like, these are just some of the, a few of the sober livings that we regularly train. I kind of cycle every two to three months when they get new people. And so that's on a continuous loop of training these folks. This gets me in these, I mean, there's dozens and dozens. Let's say we've done 50 or 60 different sober livings, and that's, you know, maybe half of them. I mean, they pop up, so we can't even keep track of them. And some of them just don't want us to come in because they're not really doing what they need to be doing, so they don't want us to come in. But for the most part, we have very good relationships with the sober livings. And as Carmen said, we are, that's helping us get this sober living ordinance in motion. But that's a different topic. So that's what that looks like. Again, there's a lot more than that. And that allows me, you know, I will go to these trainings and they're like, oh, I saw you at Shepherd's House, I'll be at the Ridge. Oh, I saw you at the Ridge. So you see you have a population that just cycles in and out of treatment, into active addiction, and they're in that cycle. They're in that cycle. But that, it keeps us in the loop on that. I guess we're done with that. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Thank you. So, again, this nontraditional approach, as we called it, we have a very good relationship with the Men's and Women's Hope Center. Those are some of the trainings we still do with the health department. We do those about every three months when they get a new class in, so to speak. I go to the Ridge every week. I go to Schwartz Center almost weekly, definitely biweekly. We have a very good relationship with some of these people. New Day Life Center, Lexington Rescue Mission, Lighthouse Ministries. We were able to, when the Hope Village was up, we trained all their security and had Nalox boxes down there. Catholic Action, we, like their hotel program, we've given them all their Narcan. I will just be able to go and, you know, people are hanging out at wherever downtown or, say, in somebody's parking lot, I can just walk up to them and train them in one minute and give them some Narcan. We trained all the, a couple years ago, trained most of the detention center staff. They're able to take it. They've taken that over since then. But that's what it looks like. Again, just pop in and talk to these folks, again, on a cyclical basis. Very good relationships with the recovery clubs here in town. I go daily to probably Alano and Grass Park and Token Club. We work with Recovery Café. And we've also talked to the Latino AA Clubhouse downtown. Again, they all have Narcan. We've done many community trainings down there. Very good relationship. Again, it's just really important to be plugged into those folks. That's who's using most of the, as John will tell you too, the most people that are using the Narcan and utilizing are people that are, again, in this gray area of they're in treatment, they're in sober living, they're relapsing and back into active addiction. That's who's using it. So here's what this looks like too. So we just, and Carmen, when she first started, we went to Cowboys. Yeah, we went to Cowboys and trained those folks. But when this first became an opportunity, like the bus stop outside the Lyric, I'm like, man, I'd like to go give those folks some Narcan. And sure enough, I got to do it a year later. And barbershops, we'll go to gas stations and dry cleaners. Not dry cleaners, what's the other word? Laundromats. So I've hit all the, like the Winchester Road corridor, like those motels out there at the end of, in there, those high-risk areas where there's a lot, you know, there's human trafficking and drug activity going on. They were very, very receptive. Brought the little red Narcan. The LOX boxes in there. Liquor stores, you name it. Tattoo parlors, I mean, there it is. That's what it looks like. I mean, we've really hit probably three-quarters of the city. Of course, like Days Motel, places like that, again, high-risk populations. And again, I just continue to cycle and pop into like the Thorntons on Broadway. They use it. They've used their Narcan. They've had to use it. So there's just some information. Our lovely and talented Erica Pike, who does our data for us, can maybe enlighten you a little bit more. She's better at this than I am. Oh, you put her on the slide. Well, I didn't realize I was doing this today. So this shows the naloxone distribution for the current FR care grant, which is the expanded one. As you can see, the dark bars are the naloxone kits that have been distributed by Scott and Carmen's outreach. And the lighter blue, which look kind of white here, are from the health department. But as you can see overall, this nontraditional approach and the outreach that Scott and Carmen have been able to do in the community has really gotten more naloxone kits out into the hands of folks in the community. And then this figure is showing Scott's referrals by year. So if you want to talk about those. So again, by just going to the Ridge and going to the sober livings and going to meetings, I'm really not, I mean, honestly, I'm never really off the clock. I mean, I'll get calls. I've given out over a thousand business cards. I've been on the beach and get a phone call. And it's fine, you know, that's part of it. I'm up here. I've been on the other end of that phone. And just again, referrals to, say, the Ridge or Empath Center or whatever that looks like, whatever they need. It could be to the rescue mission or to Jubilee Jobs or whatever that looks like. So those have ebbed and flowed. But the more I've been able to be out in the community on my own, those referrals have increased pretty much or stayed the same. But that's what that looks like. Again, I've given out like a thousand business cards. But it is important. I mean, other agencies are out there in the community, no doubt about it. We have great relations with them. But it's important that we're able to do this and, again, be connected to the population. I would say by the end of this month, we're going to be approaching 900 community meetings in the last six years. Community trainings. And that blew me away, too. I was like, wow, that's a lot. But that's what it looks like in a nutshell, what we're able to do. And one other thing about these referrals, we're glad to be able to partner with people like Paramedicine because they have transportation. In our program, we don't have transportation. So there's been days that Scott and I have been in the office trying to figure out who or how we're going to pick up these individuals that call our phone to get them the services that they need. Transportation is a huge barrier here in Fayette County as it pertains to this population. And so, therefore, if we, in our department, were to have transportation, we'd be able to do that as we receive those phone calls. We've received phone calls. One day it happened to be, I was in his office, and he received a phone call. And it was a guy just from the hospital saying, you know, I need some help. Well, the next thing you knew, everybody in the emergency room needed the help. And so we had to figure out how to get those individuals to the help they needed. And that was, you know, one may have been, I don't know, the empath center. One may have been a sober living. But they needed substance use support and help. And so we had to actually call Paramedicine. And, you know, they're able to do those things and respond. But, of course, they're dealing with their own situation. So we need, you know, more hands on. And because we have been able to partner with different communities, we have, again, been successful in seeing a decrease in overdose deaths. And that's, you know, great. But we want to keep pushing because the more, you know, the more we see, the more that's out there. Trends change, as you all know. And as those trends change, we have to shuffle around to figure out what we need to do to best respond. And, of course, you know, prevent. What was the number? How many kids this year total? Do you remember? 5,000? I think 5,000 kids distributed this year. So far. And so the year's not over. And the year's not over. So I mentioned before the recovery supportive living assistance. This is RSLA. You might hear people refer to it as RSLA. When I first started, we gave, I believe it was $425. And now it's $500 because there has been an increase in the amount that clients may have to pay upon entering those facilities. We want to make sure that they, we are supporting those individual homes or houses, recovery houses, that are either in the process or are already NAR certified so that we can all be on one accord and making sure that the clients are getting what they need. And so they're not just in a vicious circle or cycle of someone just trying to take their money. We want, ultimately, to support the end goal, which is their sobriety and success. So with that, we've been able to assist those clients throughout the year. This year's been a little more tough because of the funding stream and the pot of money that it's coming from. But again, we're thankful to even have money to be able to do that. And so we're working through it and going over those hurdles the best that we can. The next point that we want to touch on is the Mayor's Substance Use Disorder Advisory Council. Some of you are on that council. It consists of folks from all different backgrounds. The mayor has appointed we meet once a quarter. We're able to put our heads together, have presentations to kind of understand the things that are needed here in the community and how we can best support those needs. One of the things that, and since being in my role and just doing some research and being in different meetings, I was able to do Overdose Fatality Review Board. That takes people. We only have two people in our program. I want to say that I will be able to do it, but I'm unsure. I have a lot of people that have agreed to support that effort and be on that board should we do that. But the reality is we may need another person or two or maybe even three in our program to make it continue to be successful and take advantage of all the opportunities and save lives. So, any questions? Yes. Thank you all both. Scott, you've helped me numerous times with friends and family. As far as overdoses and things, is fentanyl just still, is it number one? Does heroin or meth or cocaine, do they play a role? There's no heroin, really. It's all fentanyl. Yeah, because we're seeing fentanyl in everything. They're making it on the streets and that's why you have the overdose because they're cutting it differently. So, one hit might be like, oh, yeah, that was great and the next one might be your last. So, that's definitely what we're seeing and some, was it the car fentanyl? Yeah, I mean, most people know they're using fentanyl and that's their drug of choice now. Clearly, I mean, and we don't even, we capture some of that data of how they're using the Narcan but most of it's unreported. We don't know. But then there's the accidental. They think they're doing meth. They think they're doing a Xanax bar or a Percocet 30. It's got fentanyl in it. They don't know. They're not prepared and that's getting folks to. Yeah, I was hearing that meth and that's why it's important to get this in the hands of everybody because it's your loved ones, the people around you that are going to save you because I don't think you intentionally go in thinking this is going to be my last. Thank you. Carmen, I was just going to ask for a clarification on slide six. It was hard to see the numbers because they're white. It was a bar graph. Which is it? Fatalities. This one? Yeah. Could you read the numbers? It's just hard to see those. Let me see if I have it. I also sent it to the commission in email. Hold on one second. I know in 2023, again, the fatal was 177 and then in 2024, the fatal was 120. Let me look at the numbers. 210. I couldn't see. I can see that. I can see it. It's 210. My apologies for that. It came down from 2022 also. Yeah. It's still crazy high. What's driving it is folks cannot or will not call 911. We have a good Samaritan law which protects people and our data shows that 95% of the time there will be no arrests or anything like that but that's what's driving the deaths. They're giving each other Narcan. Narcan wears off. Two hours later, they go back and overdose or they use again. Now they're out of Narcan. This is part of my spiel every day. We talk about that and the importance. You're not going to have enough. You might one or two times but I just talked to a guy at the Ridge the other day. He was on an IV drip of Narcan for three days to clear the overdose. That's the norm a lot of times. This is keeping people. This is just a stop gap to what they're getting with the kits. The problem is not going to the ER. They're in that mindset. Again, I've been in that mindset too back in the day. We understand that. That was one of the opportunities. I believe Jesmond County has done it where they administer their first dose of Suboxone. We've had that conversation with our paramedicine team. Again, funding is important. Their strength in numbers. That's something that we have explored as an opportunity to continue pushing forward to save lives. Of course, Carmen, John Moses. We appreciate the partnership always in everything we've been able to do in the last eight and a half years throughout these grants. As far as transportation goes, am I hearing that you all need a bicycle to canvass the area? I'm kidding. I'm just kidding. I was on a training yesterday about drug trends and what things are looking like. It appears that nidazines are also getting into the drug supply. There's a lot of different analogs. They're even seeing things like lidocaine and different things that are being put in with the drugs and cut. We've had some participants come through that say that they've given themselves the shot and then that whole area has gone numb. That's just something we might want to keep on the radar as to what's happening to the drug supply. Thank you for that feedback. We'd like to thank the Health Department and Mr. Moses for the great job they do in the harm reduction program. Scott is able to go over there a couple times a week and partner. Again, their strength in numbers. We appreciate your efforts and all that you do. Angela. I'll kind of piggyback off of what John was hinting at. It sounds like you have some recommendations and that's kind of what we're here for. So that's and I don't know how appropriate it is given that you're over this. But again, I think that kind of takes me back to what I said before is that you clearly have some ideas and some requests and we need to have those in writing and clear ones. Don't hint. Because that's what we're here for. And if we don't have your recommendations and our recommendations then why are we here? So there are some things I think you already like you said, you hinted at. So however, we're taking those. I just strongly urge you to do that because that helps us just get to our final task. I mean, that's why we're here. So please put those in writing. Thank you. I wanted to ask and let me first say thank you for the work that you've done even before Carmen, before you got here, Scott, I've seen the work that you've done especially being at the Hope Center and all of the trainings. Scott would wear me out. Hey, you ready for another training? He was proactive. I'm saying that in a good way. But I wanted to ask a couple of questions. My first question is is there and I know we've got stuff going on around us as far as federal dollars are concerned but is there talks about reapplying with you being in the third year and if so, is there any enhancement of services and I'm thinking the transportation is that. Yes, ma'am. So we meet on a regular basis with SAMHSA to go over those things but as you know as administration changes at the top there's a lot of gray areas. We have been informed that it is forecasted in terms of that grant opportunity so if that should come about, yes, we have every intention on applying but we just you never know. So we would revamp the current grant to definitely include what we already have going on with those additions. And my second question is as a faith leader I saw all of the different places that you all partner with. Is there any opposition of going to the faith base? We definitely want to do that. Again, there's strength in numbers so we always have to partner. If we had a couple more people in my program that would be something that that person could solely concentrate on. We've gotten a lot of response from the faith based organizations from different denominations that are interested and on board to have those trainings in their communities. Most churches as you know are in the communities and people make up the communities. So that's something we want to look at a little more extensively and be able to support. It's just the fact that we are just a two man show right now. We've done some training at churches over the years but there's plenty more to do. Thank you. Any other questions? Is there anything else before this commission today? I have a quick question. Going back to the nominations for chair, how do you want that done? Are we just going to do nominations? I don't have a cold either so I'm going to speak up. It's the weather. Going back to your previous question, it was about the board chair and executive committee. How do you want nominations? Are you going to do that from the floor? It will be on the floor. That's not done by a motion. You would nominate for that agenda item. Then you would vote on that agenda item. It would be on the floor. To do that in April, will we have Matt's position filled at that point? How do we move forward on that? I'll send an email out to the mayor. I'm pretty sure she gets notice. Just to make sure she's aware. Do we need to wait until that position is filled before we have elections? You don't have to. Anything else, Mark? How many do we have to fill? One, I believe. All the other positions are filled. I think it's just one, right? Two. There's two positions to be filled. Just one. One or two. We may have a second one. Oh, yes. Like confirmed one. Confirmed one. Got you. Okay. All right. Anything else? Any other questions? Anybody? All right. All right. Hearing none. We're going to be finished before 11 o'clock today. I encourage us to be weather aware. Enjoy the sun while you can. I'll entertain a motion to close this meeting. Let me double check to make sure there's no open comment. I didn't see any. I didn't see any when I came in. I jumped the gun. None? Okay. Hearing that there's no open comment. Okay. There has been a motion. Who seconded the motion? I'll second. All right. Mark? Mark made the motion and Margaret seconded the motion. Are you ready for the question? All those in favor? Meeting adjourned. Thank you all.