# Rural Land Management Board - April 23, 2025 > Auto-transcribed civic record · Board · April 23, 2025 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/6411 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/6411?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2025-04-23 - **Body**: Board - **Last revised**: March 26, 2026 - **Length**: 17,278 words > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** Audio from the official Granicus video was auto-transcribed by OpenAI Whisper-1, with speaker labels folded in from Granicus closed-captioning. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude Sonnet. Speaker labels and verbatim wording may contain errors. See [methodology](https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/about/methodology) or [report a correction](mailto:editor@lexingtonky.news). --- ## Meeting Overview The Rural Land Management Board convened at 3:00 PM on April 23, 2025, with Gloria presiding over the session. The meeting covered four agenda items spanning both action and informational matters. The Board took a total of four votes during the meeting, approving the March meeting minutes and an amendment to Ordinance Section 27.5, while also receiving informational presentations on the Small Farm Program Applications and Farm Easement Defense. No public comments were heard during the meeting. ## Attendance The following individuals were present at the April 23, 2025 Board meeting: Gloria, Beth, Morton Searby, Boone, Olivia, Allison Tucker, Jim Coleman, Hannah Emig, Phil Hager, Phil Meyer, Robert James, Stephen Howard, Will Mayer, Margaret Graves, Tracy Jones, Mary Quinn, Christine Stanley, and Joanna. - **Late arrivals:** Mary Quinn and Christine Stanley attended but arrived late. - **Absent:** No absences were recorded. ## Votes and Decisions The Board took four votes during the April 23, 2025 meeting, all of which passed unanimously. - **Approval of March Minutes** [timestamp: 0:09:05]: Motioned by Jim Coleman and seconded by Hannah Emig, the Board voted unanimously to approve the minutes from the March meeting. - **Amendment to Ordinance Section 27.5** [timestamp: 27:23]: The Board voted unanimously to amend section 27.5 of the ordinance to include buffer areas. The motion was seconded by Phil; the mover was not recorded. No roll call vote was taken. - **Authorization to Purchase Farm 7-20-22** [timestamp: 1:21:45]: The Board voted unanimously to authorize an offer to purchase farm 7-20-22. The motion was seconded by Margaret; the mover was not recorded. No roll call vote was taken. - **Authorization to Purchase Farm 1-20-24** [timestamp: 1:22:15]: Motioned by Robert and seconded by Mary Quinn, the Board voted unanimously to authorize an offer to purchase farm 1-20-24 per the appraisal. No roll call vote was taken. ## Contested Items - **Farm Easement Defense:** The board discussed the need to defend a farm easement against proposed road improvements by the Kentucky Department of Transportation. The concern raised was that the transportation department's road improvement plans could encroach upon or otherwise affect a farm protected under a Purchase of Development Rights (PDR) easement. A key consideration noted was that failing to defend the easement could set a precedent that would put other PDR farms at risk of similar impacts from infrastructure projects. The structured data does not indicate a final resolution or vote outcome from this discussion. [No timestamp available] ## Approval of March Minutes [timestamp: 05:56] The board took up the approval of the March meeting minutes during the April 23, 2025 meeting. Gloria addressed the item, and Jim Coleman made a motion to approve the minutes, which was seconded by Hannah Emig. No concerns or debate regarding the minutes were noted. The motion carried and the March minutes were approved. ## Amendment to Ordinance Section 27.5 [timestamp: 27:23] The board took up a proposed amendment to Section 27.5 of the ordinance, with the discussion centered on expanding the section's language to include buffer areas. **Key Speakers:** Gloria, Phil **Discussion:** - Gloria led the discussion on the proposed amendment, presenting the case for modifying Section 27.5 to incorporate buffer areas into the ordinance's existing framework. - Phil seconded the motion to approve the amendment. **Outcome:** - The motion passed **unanimously**. *Note: The available record does not include additional detail on specific concerns raised or the full scope of debate during this item.* ## Small Farm Program Applications [timestamp: 31:14] Beth provided the Board with an update on the Small Farm Program application process. She reported that 35 applications have been received and are currently being processed. The item was informational in nature, with no action or vote required from the Board at this time. No additional concerns, debate, or discussion details are available from the meeting record beyond the status update provided by Beth. ## Farm Easement Defense [timestamp: 53:01] The board held a discussion regarding the defense of a farm easement in response to proposed road improvements by the Kentucky Department of Transportation (KDOT). The item was informational in nature, with no formal action taken during the meeting. Key speakers in the discussion included Gloria, Beth, and Margaret. The conversation centered on how the organization might respond to or defend an existing farm easement that could be affected by the state transportation department's planned road work. No additional details regarding the specific farm, easement terms, location, or the nature of KDOT's proposed improvements were provided in the available record. The outcome of the discussion was informational, suggesting the board was being briefed on the situation and the potential need to take a defensive posture regarding the easement rather than voting on any immediate course of action. --- ## Decisions - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Motion to approve March minutes - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Amend section 27.5 of the ordinance to include buffer areas - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Authorize an offer to purchase farm 7-20-22 - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Authorize an offer to purchase farm 1-20-24 per the appraisal --- ## Full transcript Diolch yn fawr am wylio'r fideo. Diolch am wylio'r fideo. Diolch am wylio'r fideo. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Yes, you do. You have exactly seven. And I know we have others who have said they are coming today. I had touched base with Mary Quinn, and I know she's coming. Yeah, I'll double check my emails. Okay, and I have on my phone that right this minute it's three o'clock. Yes. So, since we have enough and we can conduct some business, we have a huge agenda today and a closed session, so I thought we'll move on. Okay. So, I'll call the meeting to order right now at three o'clock, and make sure you have your recorder turned on so it'll be easier for you to record minutes later. And I'm happy to see, yes, we have plenty of folks here now. And we have two councilmembers sitting here and a legislative aide. Welcome, guys. Councilmember Morton Searby has just left the screen and Councilmember Boone and his very helpful and good legislative aide, Olivia. Welcome. And we have today, I'll go ahead and while we're waiting for everybody to introduce Allison Tucker. Allison, welcome. She has not been able to come to our meetings because of her very overloaded work ethic and zone that's going on right now, everything at her office, but she's our new Fayette County extension person. And in the past, they have attended our meetings and I'm delighted that you're here. There are so many good farming things you can contribute when questions come up. So, Allison, welcome to the Rural Land Management Board and tell us a little bit about yourself while we're waiting for everyone. Yeah, well, I'm happy to be here. I am a Fayette County resident. I was born and raised here. I actually grew up in the suburbs, but I have family that used to farm and so in southern Ohio. So that's where my passion for ag came from. And when I got to high school, I attended Locust Trace Agri-Science Center. And then I got my Bachelor of Science from Eastern. And then I have an Associate's in Livestock Management as well. I spent about 4 years at Southern Estates Lexington Cooperative and then I applied for this job and I'm happy to be here. I'll be 1 year in May. So, I'm happy to be here. And if anybody ever needs anything, please don't hesitate to reach out. Thank you. And I was talking to Allison before some of you all got here that our extension office has a new person there working with and under Allison that can help with our new small farm program and things that are going on on small farms. And I think that'll be a big help. So, I think that's a really, really good thing. Anybody have any questions or comments other than welcoming Allison to our group? Okay. Thank you. I do not, Beth, have any absences to record that anyone who said they would not be here. No, I don't either. And I hope you all have gotten our March minutes. We will need a motion to approve those. That everyone receive their minutes. I hope so, because Beth does go to a big time and trouble to do those and to get them out ahead of the meeting with plenty of time over a weekend so that you all can have time to peruse those and look for any additions you think need to be there. I think she always does a very good job and I appreciate her getting them out in a timely manner so that we do have time to go over them before the meeting. Do you have any additions? Corrections? Changes to those minutes? No, if not, I'll entertain a motion to approve. So moved, Madam Chair. All right. And Jim Coleman's made the motion. And I hear a second. And Hannah Emig's raised her hand. So, Hannah. I think now we definitely, Beth, have enough people who've signed on that just for the record, I'll read from the screen so you will have those for our attendance. And Phil Hager and Phil Meyer and Jim Coleman, Robert James, Stephen Howard, Will Mayer and Margaret Graves. And I'm here. And also, of course, you're here. And Tracy Jones is on the screen, but I don't see her. As I've already said, we have our council member representative, Councilman Morton. Good to see you. And we have Councilman Boone and his legislative aide. And I think that's it. Although, frequently, we have Commissioner Horn. He's in a meeting in Jesmond County, Nicholasville, today. And sometimes his aide is with us, but I don't see either one of them here. Does that get everybody? I didn't miss anybody, did I? No, I don't think so. Okay. I want to make sure everybody's accounted for. We have our small farm conservation easement program. And our deadline to try to get things in was April 1st. I am happy to tell you we already had a whole lot before the April 1st deadline. And we've had about 35 applications. We do have one issue that we need to discuss. In our applications, there were two that were in the AB zone. And we had some that wrote on their applications that they did not farm. They had, quote, no to farming on their application. Madam Chair. Those may not qualify. Madam Chair, point of order. I don't believe we actually voted on accepting the minutes. Oh, I'm sorry. Go back. All in favor of accepting the minutes. Show of hands. All right. Is that everybody? Okay. Thank you, Robert. And we've had, since then, a couple of people sign on. I was a little distracted. Mary Quinn is now here to add Beth to the minutes, as is Christine Stanley. Okay. So, welcome, ladies. So, we've had two others. And now we've voted on the minutes. And I think they actually were here in time to raise their hands. They voted on the minutes. Okay. Thank you. Back to our small farm easement program. It is going really well. I'm delighted that we've had so many apply. And I want to, first off, give a really big thank you to our GIS folks. I think Beth will agree they have been already a tremendous help. You know, last time we discussed in our meeting that our FSA office and our federal partners, the NRCS office, were having trouble with their employees and the offices, and they were not going to be able to get our farm plans or our soil maps to us while Beth was trying to do these rankings. And I think a big thank you should go to especially Chris George. Is that correct, Beth? That is right. Yes. He knew we did not have the soil maps. And last week when Beth started processing and doing our rankings, he actually calculated all of our soil scores. He added up all the road frontage points using GIS. And I think that he deserves a real pat on the back and a real recognition for the time that he took adding that to his schedule, his already worked schedule. And back to the one issue that there were two farms that are in the A-B zone that Beth thought did not qualify. Do you have the map, Beth, that you can put up that they sent us today? Yes. Let me see. We relied, when we were writing this ordinance, on the Rural Land Management Plan and the information that we had. And the Rural Land Management Plan, there are only two pages in the plan, 55 and 56, that talk about the buffer area at all. And there's no map showing the buffer area. On page 56 in the plan, which is what we went by, it said the policy emphasis is to have land uses be predominantly residential and or smallholder farm uses. So we used that and moved on. Actually, our ordinance, as you all know, you've had a copy, in section 27.5, one of the minimum criteria says that the parcel of land upon which the conservation easement is proposed to be imposed must be located within the agricultural and rural land categories or the natural areas category as determined by the Rural Land Management Plan. And when you went to the Rural Land Management Plan, which, as we've already said, needed to be updated, there is no map. And on page 56, it did say that the policy emphasis was to also include the smallholder farm uses, which we did. But on this ordinance, it just, in small letters, just says agricultural and rural land or natural land. It does not say AR or AN. And we assumed that, and I apologize because I did not know. I talked to Commissioner Horn today. He did not know either. And the only thing our plan says is that there are only nine parcels that have AB zone and that are contiguous, that were created in 05, and that the remainder are zoned AR. And I take it these are the nine lots. And apparently two of the people on this road applied, and their properties are in this map, and two others on that road have applied, and they're not in the map. I would like to avoid any controversies for this, and I feel personally that if these applicants that we have actually meet the intent of the zones and if they actually are farming, and it is showing that they have a farm use on the property, and they meet the rest of the criteria that we adopted, that we need to include them. And the AB zone in our zoning ordinance is pretty clear that the zone was established to preserve the rural character of the agricultural service area by establishing agricultural land that can serve as a buffer area between the urban uses and the agricultural land and between land outside of Fayette County and agricultural uses. And the principle use says, number one, use for agricultural purposes, including small farm wineries and equine-related activities, as outlined in KRS-100. I'm to assume that when the zoning ordinance was updated in 2017 and this rural land management plan was written at the same time, that none of this small farm program was even, well, we know that it was not even anticipated. I would like to ask you all to amend that section 27.5a that has to do with minimum criteria to include buffer areas in this. And this is the map that planning sent us today that shows that two of these who have applied are part of those. Just for clarity, what's the difference between an agricultural buffer property and agricultural rural? I think Tracy needs to stop sharing so we can all see each other. Let's see. Well, let me say a couple of things. And I'm trying to catch up because I didn't know this was going to be an issue today until about two hours ago. So the buffer areas were identified in our rural land management plan and in our zoning ordinance. And they are typically, there's not a lot of them, but they are areas that are used to create buffers because of how they relate to the ag area and the urban area. But more importantly, for purposes of this discussion, let me say that we have an ordinance that has specific language in it that was copied directly from the PDR ordinance about minimum criteria. And so that has been applied with the PDR ordinance for the way it reads for years, which excludes the buffer zones. With this program, if we are going to amend it, we just need to be careful about how we do that because we have programs that have now filed under the ordinance that the council adopted and passed. And now we're going to change it before we actually process those. So I just want us to all be on the same page. There may be some procedural things if you want to go this route that you need to be aware of and we need to consider. Margaret, you may have some insight into this as well. I was just going to make the comment answer Stephen's question. I can make some assumptions and they could be completely wrong, but I'm familiar with this property. And on one side there's a ridge that had to have a road built at some point for a place for the houses to sit. And Crawley Lane is not a very good road. So I'm just thinking maybe that's why they designated this as buffer. This is very close to Belmar Lane, which has their 10-acre tracks out there also just right next to this that are AR. I'm assuming this was that zoning category at some point allowed for some of these things to happen. I know on the back part of that property there's like a creek, a wooded creek going through all of those lots. I don't know. I'm just trying to understand why it was ever AB. I assume, Stephen, that what happened was this was a large farm that somebody wanted to divide into lots. And I imagine, I do not know, because I did ask because I didn't get a heads up on this either until today. I assumed that it may have been a large farm that wanted to divide into the smaller lots and had the right to do that. Grandfathered in before or after the 40 acres maybe to be able to do that? Because those tracks are not like new-new, but I know that that happened in the last 10 years those tracks were. It might be 15 years. I lose track of years now. But in the last 10 to 20 years, I know those tracks have been developed out into homes. For my general, to me, it's the same as the property that's AR in reality. I was just curious what the differences were in the two zones. Well, and quite frankly, when you read the zoning ordinance, it's almost identical because the intent is for agricultural uses or small farm residential, which is the same thing as AR. In that respect, you're correct. Anyway, Margaret, I'm sorry. I didn't make sure he got his question answered. No, it's fine. So my recollection of what the AB zone was intended for was to be a transition zone between the urban areas and the rural areas and in specific locations. And this is, this is dating back to the 1996 rural land management plan. And the 1999 PD or PDR ordinance didn't refer to a B zones Tracy. But I think that was because at that time, the minimum acreage required to participate in the program was 20 acres. And these parcels are 20 or less. It's my understanding, right? In the AB zone. So now we've got a new program for parcels that are between 10 and 20 acres to participate in the small farm program. So now it's, we've got a different type of program within the PDR program for small farms. So to me, it seems appropriate that AB properties would be allowed to participate in the small farm program going forward. I realized that means amending this ordinance and, you know, we just got it. We just set it up, which is starting on our first round, but I do think it makes sense to give those people that are in an AB zone who want to participate in the program, the opportunity to do so because they want to, they, they want to stay in ag and they want to put an easement on their farm that ensures that that happens. I mean, obviously they have to have agricultural activity. They have to meet all our other criteria, but to me, conceptually, it makes sense. I agree a hundred percent, like just the practicality of it of knowing that area and what's beside it, there should be no reason why those people shouldn't be able to participate. I know that changes what the written word may say, but the reality of it is they should be able to apply my opinion. And I want to avoid any negative feelings about this program. We wanted to make it clear that these small lots we were not doing for the big McMansions and people who just wanted a nice estate in the country. We wanted to make it sure that these were properties that had horses and bees and chickens and whatever, a farm use as was defined in KRS and in our zoning ordinance. And we did go to a great deal of effort to make sure that that was the case. I don't want, and that's why I agree with you, Stephen, on this is it's on one road where apparently we have multiple applications and two people would not qualify because of that, even though they meet the intent, even though they have a farm use on the property. I don't want to exclude anyone who's made. The idea was to help the farming industry and our farming neighbors. So I don't want to do anything that's going to create a negative attitude in any way about this program. So Gloria, if we were to, if we as a board are to recommend a change in the ordinance to allow properties that are currently zoned AB to participate in the program going forward, you're not suggesting that we pause our current applications. You're just suggesting that we seek to amend the ordinance. To allow that in the future. So the two that are zoned currently zoned AB would not be able to participate in this round because we'd have to amend the ordinance first, but the, we could go on and proceed with the other applicants. Is that what you're. Yes. And let them let them know that if we're seeking an amendment, if we're seeking an amendment, they can. They can. Right. Right. Until we get it worked out. Right. And I don't know that these five were that you authorized last time to proceed with the top five. I don't even know that they're in the top five. All I was today. Beth was told that two didn't qualify because they're on this map. So I don't know that they're in the top five. I don't even know that they're in the top five. Do you want to say that, I don't know that they are in the top five. I don't even know that they are in the top five. All I was today. Okay. Beth was told that two didn't qualify because they're on this map. And, and I also. Two out of the five or two. Outside of the. Applications period. Okay. But not, not among the top five. I don't know that there, I don't know where they are. We haven't. We haven't looked at the plan yet. Oh, okay. Yes. So it's going to be a little while longer. Yes. And we did, we did look at the rural land management plan. If you'll recall, or getting together. When we were drafting this ordinance. And we, we knew that where these were, there was a list. Of not properties, but area. And we knew that along takes Creek road. There were some. We also knew that it was road. And we also knew it was cane break. And newest plan, they have absorbed all of those on road. In the expansion and those on cane break. So, therefore, they're not eligible. They're not eligible at all, because they're now inside the urban service boundary. And the plan said that. Outside of these nine, if these are the nine. Areas that are not eligible. There were no others. Everything else was on day are so. I want it to be an even playing field. I want it to be fair for everybody across the board. And that was why I'd like to make that 1. Amendment to that. 27. 5 B that includes the word buffer area. Agricultural buffer. Is there a 2nd. Bill a 2nd. And let's, let's have discussion to see. If there is any discussion before I call for a vote. I feel like this was an unfortunate. Oversight, and I think that it was not anything that was deliberate. I don't think that anybody intended. Not the planning staff, not anybody on our committee. I don't think it was anybody's intention to. Eliminate anybody in the rural area that was actually. Had a farming use and regardless of the property. Any discussion. All in favor signify by show of hands. I think it's unanimous. Hey, and what is your exact wording for this? For the motion to amend section 5 B. Of the ordinance for minimum criteria to include buffer area. I don't need to say agricultural buffer area back. The agricultural buffer area. Okay, I think it needs to be very simple. Okay, and all of the others are in small letters. In the ordinance, it just has agricultural and rural land category in small letters and natural area. Category small letters, I think it should be agricultural buffer area in small letters. Because there's no, those letters are not in there at all. Okay. Even, even if we did include the letters beforehand, we could easily forgot to include a B. we're talking about 90 acres inside Fayette County. So. And so to even know that there is an a B. I didn't the commission I talk about it this morning. We didn't know that that we did not know about that map. So, I apologize. I always try to do my homework and I obviously didn't do enough. Gloria, no need to apologize my dear. I do not like to ever amend the ordinances and we tried to address all of these things up front from the get go. And it's 1 of those things that. Most of us did not know about. Okay, I think land and if they want to participate there. If the council agrees with the amendment, they will be able to participate. Well, and we have, we've had this discussion and we have 2 council members here who certainly can understand the issue. And I know from these 2 council members have not been on the council very long, but I've been observing them and they both try very hard to be fair to everyone. And so I feel certain that they would be able to explain this. And we, I can attend and. Commissioner corn has already said that. He will be there as well to explain this. I think the question will come up at the meeting know what the differences are. So we might want to make sure we know what the. Few differences between the 2 are. Beth gets, I will tell you that this is the small farm program has added work for everyone. And Beth has been taking the applications. We got putting them. On the sheet, and why don't you take it from there and explain what else you've been doing that has to do with it? Beth. Okay, yes, so as Gloria said, and I do want to note that you want to has just joined us too. Okay. So we will add her. She joined after the vote. But, yes, so we received 35, so that is great. It is an enormous task. We've not had 35 applications since 2007. I think when we probably had 3 staff people. So, we are doing it, it is a slower. It is a, it's a very, we have to be very thorough and we had a snag at 1st, because said, reached out and just said, we do not have the capability. We don't have the staff anymore. They've had so much downsizing to make these soil maps for you all, or to do the conservation plans, which is something we'll have to discuss at a future meeting. But. So, our staff did jump in, they have to use software. The software does not have boundary lines on a parcel lines. You have to create them yourself. And so the staff was able to use their mapping to overlay it and get those made for us. So, that was a tremendous help. And then they created ranking maps of every farm with all the criteria that's in the ordinance and just provided those to us midweek last week. So, I have started going through those. Then we'll go out to the farms and make the site visits and we have to confirm their farming and look at other things. Like, do they have natural areas that they may get points for different things like that. And then the ranking. So, and as Tracy and I were going through the ordinance today, 1 thing we realized is that last month, you all authorized that as soon as I'm done with the rankings that I go ahead and order appraisals for the top 5. But actually, she and I were pouring through the ordinance getting ready for this issue. We just discussed then. We realized that it states, I have to give you all a written report of the rankings 1st, and I have to visited each of them. So I will have that by next month's meeting and then present those to you all. And then you all can reauthorize the top 5 or 10 or whatever we decide to do, but it's going well. It's what we've seen so far with the soil scores and things and different types of farming are interesting. So, I think it'll be a great batch, but I just wanted to update you all on that part of it. Do you have any questions for Beth? About that, how many total applicants Beth and how many 5. How many 25 or 3535? 35. Yes, so I think it's around 400 acres. Or no, yes, somewhere to 3 to 4, we'll have to see because they are more fed. Yeah. So, and it was interesting to note that. Some of them are 10 or just barely over, but there are others. 1 of them in particular was all all the way up to 9.7, 9, 4 acres or something like that. 19 point something. So we had. We had a range, we had 13 and 12 and 10 and 11 and 19. so it's not just. For 10 acres only and it was noted in what was the announcement that came out that this program would be open year round. So we've already had some people who said they were preparing an application and Beth and I've discussed that. They can give us the application, but they will, they will just have to be added. At the end of the list, because. Because they did not get them in by April the 1st. So, we will need to look at that if we're going to. Limit dates and set dates for when people can apply in the future. Eastman acquisitions, Beth, the closing and the funding, which is next on our agenda and is is a big issue. Beth has just heard today that. Kathy Terry, or this week, Kathy Terry that has been wonderful. Helping us and we really like her. Yes, correct. Unfortunately, yes, so I've been working with her. To wrap up what we can before she leaves on Friday and she has been wonderful and has been helped us move along and get these 12 farms closed that were in the backlog. And so it's going to be a huge loss for us. But she is training 1 of the people that are working with her and I think is. Getting ready to lose another round of people, but feels like that a couple of people that work on easements may be staying. So, we're hopeful for that. We. And then we have 2 others that they are still working on their adjusted gross income compliance that the prior staff was supposed to check before they issued the grants and didn't. But both people have turned around. And Kathy did share with us that. 2 of ours that we submitted that we're going to be moving forward with those. So, we're going to be moving forward with those. So, we're going to be moving forward with those. And Kathy did share with us that 2 of ours that we submitted 3 farms on our federal application this year, and 2 of the 3 are getting funded with farm bill funds. They've sent those to Washington for approval. So, that's good. Unfortunately, they do not believe they're going to have the inflation reduction agreement. But they do believe that those farm bill funds are intact and that's what we've been using and closing farms with this year. And so hopefully we will get that. Maybe even before she leaves. I think she's hoping that maybe they'll get approval from D. But, as you all can imagine, that process is slowing down. So, but I think that is it on the report from NRCS and our closings. We do have a limited amount of time. We can only spend 40,000 on our appraisers per year before having to get an RFP. And it's hard to seek others because there are not many in this area that are trying to get an RFP. So, we still have, we have plenty to do, you know, 5 to 10 small farms. Before June 30th, and maybe a couple of extra of the large farms if the funding does come through. But I just want to let you all know that. And so it may be because it's a little bit late. So, we still have, we have plenty to do, you know, 5 to 10 small farms. Before June 30th, and maybe a couple of extra of the large farms if the funding does come through from NRCS or we decide to pursue some more, but I just want to let you all know that. And so it may be because if we're going to see such interest in the small farm program, especially. that we may need to do an RFP for this upcoming fiscal year, because we did check with our purchasing department and we asked because these are 2 separate ordinances. Could we have 40,000 for the small farm and spend 40,000 for the large farm? And they said, no, it all comes out of 1 since it's out of our same division. So, we're fine for the rest of this year. But, you know, as we get towards June 30th, we'll have to watch that and then think of probably about an RFP for next year. So. Well, we're a little bit, Beth, and I've discussed, we're a little bit between a rock and a hard place here because we do have, in fact, at the same time that we had the small farm program. We've had applicants file for the PDR program. 1 is 160 acres. The other 1, the person has 2 tracks. 1 is, you may need to correct me on this, but 1 is 80 and the other 1 is 125. Yeah, on those, and they've applied. We don't know if they will meet the or not, but they have applied. So, on 1 hand, we're concerned about appraisals and. And our law firm running out that money, but on the other hand, we're being asked to spend the money we have and that they want us to get that done as soon as possible and spend as much as we can by the July 1st. So, we are doing our best to do that. And we do, I do want to recognize Beth for the record that we have gotten these other farms, these other applications for the regular PDR. We've also been instructed that if the federal money is not coming through that, we certainly have the money there and we've been authorized to look at spending it on our outstanding farms. So, Beth, and I will certainly, and I will be coming back to you to see if we need how we need to proceed with that since since we've been told to spend the money and get that down, because we have been held back as we discussed. So, let's see. PDR farm signs. Do you want me to go ahead with that? Okay. So, you all remember that. Well, that our estimate for 400 signs, we already have 300 farms in PDR. So, we want to get an extra 100 signs that that was just over 13,000 and we have 10,000 out of that. So, we want to get an extra 100 signs that that was just over 13,000 and we have 10,000 allocated for this project. So, we wanted to use 3000 of our grant from the American farmland trust if possible. And so we reached out to them and asked them to review the grant and determine if this was appropriate. That was just over 13,000, and we have 10,000 allocated for this project. So we wanted to use 3000 of our grant from the American farmland trust if possible. So that grant is Matt Matt managed by the city's division of grants staff. And so we reached out to them and asked them to review the grant and determine if this was an expenditure. That was allowable under the grant and they said yes, so we will use 3000 from that, which is great. So we'll go ahead and get those ordered. They did bring up, they told us our balance was 9600 and out of the 10,000 we received and I knew that you all had, and they managed the finances with that. So I knew that you all had authorized. Authorized 3 or 4000 to the conservation district in the fall of 2023 to supplement. Payments to farmers for planning cover crops and so I reached out to Phil Meyer and said, you know, and I thought maybe it was the pendant trauma. I remember there was a large expense and he said, yes, we were supposed to have given 4000. I believe you said, Phil to the conservation district. So I reached back out to the grants people and said, are you sure that we have 9600 dollars? Because we made this expenditure and they said, yes. So, we're, I'm going to reach out to the conservation district. So, it appears they either never build us, or the bill isn't receipt. I'm not sure what happened there, but they never raised the issue. So, you know, it seems like the conservation district would have raised the issue. So I'll do a little more research, but even if that 4000 is gone, we would still have 5600, which is plenty to cover the 3000 for the sign. So, but just to let you all know that we're looking into that. It's great that we can use that for the signs because it's important. Yes, I think that will be a good use. It's very good PR and it explains a lot to the driving public people going by the farms. I think it's a great, great incentive. Any comments questions? Yes, Stephen. I agree. I'm sorry, Phil, go ahead. I'm disagreeing. It's a great use for that money. Yeah, that's the grant was for public relations and public education of our program. So, yes, I agree. I'm glad we got the money and. I hope so conservation figures out what what they've what's happened with the money. We supposedly gave them. Now, Stephen, I just had, I just want to have 1 point of clarity. I studied the zoning map real quick. I was listening, but I did study the zoning map and there is another property. Uh, that's talent winery that is so divided tracks. I just wanted to make sure everyone knew there was more than 1 location in the county that had that zone. That's I just want to add that. Of the, but not of was already included. It was only the AB that had been excluded. That's what I meant. Sorry. Update on farmstays next and this is. Has become an issue again, that's 1 reason I, it's important that. I would like for everyone to always thank you for attending. Beth did write the letter. She did. I did look at it. We did talk about it. And before it got sent, the administration said they would like to. So, they did, they did that and I asked Beth, we talked about, we do not have a copy of that, but you want to comment Beth. It went, even though. Yes, yes, so that was the 1 reason I wanted to thank you for attending. I did look at it. We did talk about it. And before it got sent, the administration said they would like to send that letter and support it themselves. So, they did, they did that and I asked Beth, we talked about, we do not have a copy of that, but you want to comment Beth it went, even though you and I did not sign it. Yes, yes, so that will be great. So the mayor sent that and so we should, we hope we'll have something soon. But we have had 1 issue arise where. 1 PDR farm owner applied for an and there is a difference in an farm stay as you all know is what we've talked about allowing for PDR farm owners. If says that's okay. And if it's how you all decide to proceed, but farm stays are defined in our zoning ordinance. Now, they were just added with the language as a type of bed and breakfast. And so 1 of our. Farm owners did apply for an, which is not permitted for PDR. So they applied with the board of adjustment and then we saw that on their list that the planning staff puts out each week and reached out to them to let them know. I think they feel like they should be able to have that right. And so Tracy and I, Tracy Jones and I met with the planning staff yesterday and are all on the same page about this, that it's not permitted under the easement. So, we're going to send a letter to notify them and we'll keep you all updated of that. We shared with that landowner that, you know, we've sent this letter to NRCS that farm stays may be something we are able to consider, but that just in regular Airbnb or BRBO are not something permitted on farms right now. So, we will keep you all posted. We should know more next month about that. And there was initially we did. I know Mary Quinn provided us with a list of back in January when all of these people a year ago, or at least this past January had to apply. And I think we only had 13 people. Is that correct? In the rural area who did go ahead and sign up and this property was not 1 of them. Is that correct? That's correct. Yes. So, it's not 1 of the farms in the list, or 1 of the properties in the list in the rural area who had notified us about it. So, just just to make that clear. Yes. Any other comments about that. And I'm sure that all of, you know, that if in the original easement, these farms had, if that was a prohibited use on the easement that they had asked for on their properties that we are obligated to uphold that. So, I just for the record, I think everybody knows it, but I will make that clear. Treasurer's reports next. Phil. Madam chair, I have, I have nothing to report. No bills, no bills got paid this month or only copies of invoices. I'm going to have some next month, evidently, but not this month. I don't know how many of you all were able. I suspect. Council member Morton, I saw him on the screen as I did council member Boone. So I know they were in attendance for the mayor's budget address on April 15th. And they did include the funds for our program and our. Appraisals for next year, so that's good. Our hearing with the council budget link will be on Monday, May the 12th. Our treasurer and our vice chair will be in attendance as well as Beth. We don't know that that sometimes. Uh, since we didn't ask for anything new, and we are sticking by what we had before. We don't know that in the past, they did not always require that we be there. Beth will tell us. If that's changed as it is, we're still listed for Monday, May the 12th for the council link. We are yes, they actually sent out a schedule yesterday. So it looks like we will have that meeting and I have it down that the 1st reading of the budget is June 10th and the 2nd reading is June 12th. So, unless. Council member Morton, do you have anything to add about the budget process or any comments? No, ma'am, no, ma'am, I'm not on that link, but I will be attentive to it. And okay, and said is correct. So, okay, thank you. Well, I did we have. Do we have a time for that budget link an estimated time for it? I think ours is 1030 am and it's going to be on Microsoft teams. So, I'll send you all that link are there any other comments? I think chair reports up next again. I will apologize to. Our Jim Coleman, he, and I've been trying to meet to talk about some of you have been working for the small farm properties and other in the area where you live or no, and he and I've been trying to get together. I've pulled up a lot of the pages in his area and in, I want to sit down and discuss how we might address and encourage some of those folks. And it's still on our agenda. We'll still we'll still be able to make it happen. I do say that I'm happy about all of our small farm. Program applicants that we've had, I think that that's a great, great showing for a new program like that to have had so many and when some of them Beth happened to be luckily on about the only vacation she's had in a while was gone. And so a lot of them asked to deliver the applications and I took them and I did go see some of those and we do have some really good applicants. And I think everybody, the board, and everybody will be very happy with these. I do want to ask your permission. We have an issue that has come up. Beth will be discussing in more detail, but 1 of our farms from 2006 has been notified by the Kentucky Department of transportation that they want to. And I have been working with him with this property owner. He's been worried about this for at least a month, and I have been talking to him and looking at all the maps, the, all of the maps have and their plans have been. I have looked at those. It does have a significant, I think, very significant loss of the front of the property. It's hundreds of feet of plank fencing mature trees all across the roadway. And I do plan. He's supposed to have a meeting. We have asked that 1 of the NRCS people attend I definitely want to let, you know, that I do intend to help defend the easement. And Beth will go into more detail because she's been dealing with the folks. I see this as precedent setting if we have an easement on a farm that is a working farm that is 1 of our 3rd bred operations and has been for many years, it's a historic piece with an older house and huge trees. I think the fact they want to take 475 feet across the front with all the plank fencing and the large trees along that roadway is definitely a negative. And if you can, if this starts, then all of our easements along any major roadway could be. Endangered this. This has an NRCS has sent lists of what you would have to do in order to do this, and it would require. Condemnation and a lot of legal work other than that, I wanted to let, you know, that when that meeting occurs, I do plan to attend and I do plan to defend the easement Beth. Will you can you go on from there and more. So, this is farm 52006 that is on military Pike. It is over 200 acres and the Kentucky D. O. T. would like to make some improvements on military Pike, but they're only doing it on this side of the road where the farm is and the other side of the road. There is no easement, so our easement, of course, prohibits this and this was a federally funded easement and you cannot take any action like that without the written consent of NRCS and it says that in the easement. And so, when we reached out to NRCS, they said that anytime, for instance, if this were something we wanted to do, you can apply to NRCS for an administrative action is what they call it. And they laid out, they sent us this whole process, but they said it is very hard to meet the standards of that. And the 1st, very 1st step is that the landowner has to want it and the board has to want it. If either says no, then you can't even initiate this process. Then after that, there are several steps, like, it has to be benefiting the easement, which this obviously would not there are numerous steps. So NRCS said, if you all don't want it, the landowner doesn't, then it's just a no. So, they, and then, you know, it could get, if the state wanted to fight that, they could try to condemn, but the federal government would then also step in. And they said that, you know, in an email today that if that became necessary, they would be involved. So, we're going to our 1st step is to send a letter. We're going to do that. Tracy and I will work on that to the Kentucky DLT, letting them know that this easement is there, that it prohibits it that and we'll be copying NRCS and that it was federally funded and the NRCS does not allow this. So, hopefully, that will put an end to it and we will have good news to report next month. But we wanted to make you all aware and just put that on the record that it is Farm 5, 2006 and that we will keep you all posted on the developments for that. I will, I just looked at it again, Beth, just for the record. It looks like that they'll remove about 145 linear feet with plank fencing in 1 direction, maybe another 485 feet. They're going to remove at least 6 large mature trees along the frontage. They're going to have to relocate water main and relocate utility poles. So, basically, they're going to be disturbing hundreds of linear feet of this easement in 1 way or another. So, it's, it's, I consider it a precedent issue that we need to make sure they understand our position. Are there any comments, questions? Yes, Margaret. Okay, I agree wholeheartedly that we need to defend the easement. I have visited the property. It would have a major adverse impact on the frontage of the property, which is very scenic and significant trees, significant fencing. And the last thing that we want to have happen is for the Kentucky Department of Transportation to think that PDR protected properties are easy targets for road improvements. So, I think we do need to fiercely defend the conservation easement on the property. We've spent significant funds protecting these farms, and we've made an investment to do that. And the landowner has has made an investment in determining their future of their farm. So, I think it's very important that we defend it and defend it rigorously. And it is precedent setting, so it's not just this 1 farm. It's potentially all PDR farms could be impacted. So, and we have more than 1 PDR farm in that immediate area and military. Right. So, I think it is very important that we push back on this significantly. This person feels like it would have a negative impact on the business, on his business. It does take away some of the acreage in the paddocks. It does, even the mailbox goes and the farm sign goes. So, there are a lot of things to address here. It's really not necessary because they could take frontage on the opposite side of the road on a farm that is not protected by a conservation easement that does not have historic does not have plank fencing and significant trees. So, I think there's, it's. You know, it really is incumbent upon us as board members to defend our conservation easements, particularly if we hope other people will participate in this program in the future. So I feel very strongly that we need to do this. And we have people who have have signed up and have participated knowing that their properties would be protected and this would hurt all of them. Yes, Hannah. Did they say why they wouldn't do it on the other side of the road? Do we know why they're choosing this particular side of the road, this farm, you know, why not the other side? Not to my knowledge, has that been communicated to the landowner? I got some information out there for knowledge. Having lived on that road most of my life, no longer. They would solve a whole lot of problems on military Pike if they would lower the speed limit. And they restrict the size of the trucks that go down it. Unless you live on the road, but I think the answer to the question of why they're picking 1 side and the other, I'm assuming this is on the North side of the road. On the South side of the road is where the Kentucky American waterline is that would put it in 1967. Okay, so my guessing they don't want to mess with that. But, you know, move it. I think that we're going to have to move it. Yeah. Yeah. Any other comments? Beth, it's time for your staff report. Do you have other things to add? Okay, other than that, the only thing I was going to tell you all is that. Commissioner horn would like to initiate an amendment trial ordinance to allow board members to serve 3 consecutive terms right now. You all can only serve 2 for your terms. But some of the other, all of the other land boards, the planning commission and board of adjustment that are under commissioner horn can serve 3 consecutive for your terms. And so we value all we think this is a complicated program that it generally takes most people a while to grasp and we would love to have you all keep serving. So, he would like to go ahead and initiate that amendment and Tracy, I'm not sure they need to vote. Do they just need to know or verbally support it? Or do you prefer they vote or. Sorry, I got a new computer and I found my mute button. They. I mean, they don't have to vote because I think he's going to come out of the commissioner's office, but if they want to support it, they could express that too. Okay. Thank you. Do you all have any comments or questions about that? Some of you may think no, not 12 years. No, but it does not and you don't even if that is changed to serve that. You did not have to accept that when it's true when it's your time. Although I would, I would encourage it. And for 1 reason in particular. Right now is that our treasurer Phil Meyer, I consider to be a tremendous help to the board and to you, Beth. He's very good to always go over having worked in insurance for years. He's very good to go over our numbers and he understands the spreadsheets and his term will be coming up and I would very much like for him to continue. I've asked him if he would, if this were to pass, and he said, yes, he would. So that's 1 of the reasons that I think it's important and board members need to know that when your term comes up. If you don't want to continue on, you don't have to. That's that's also there is time for another choice. Yes. Matter of fact, we have for Mary Quinn. Christine Stephen, because he was refilling another position, he would start his actually 1st, for your term in July. So they all just received notices from the mayor's office that they are eligible to reapply. And as long as we're going over that, I'll tell you all that process. So, if you are already appointed by your nominating organization, like, say, Mary Quinn with visit, they do not have to re, nominate you. They will just, if you say, yes, I want to, I'm willing to continue, then that automatically puts you through. So they don't have to go back to visit Lex or KTA or whoever. So, but you do get that option to say, no, I'm too busy or I'm not Gloria and I might hound you, but you have that. I might twist your arm from time to time. But I really, the people we have, this has been a great board and I can never pat you on the back enough for always attending these meetings for helping out because we have, we're, this is a multi million dollar business and we have a lot of properties we're dealing with that people count on us. And I want to make sure that our farming community and all of the affiliated industries that have to do with it know that we are supportive and that we will help them do what we can. So, I do, I do think that it takes a while on this board to learn all the ins and outs and the zoning ordinance, everything that matters. So, there's a lot to learn. And once you're here, I hate to see people. I hate to see people leave when, when they don't need to. So, you don't think we need to vote on that Tracy. I think she said, no, that is everybody's generally supportive of that. It's not okay. Are there any other comments? Okay. I see some thumbs up some nodding heads. Okay. All right. Okay. Thank you all. And when we get ready to do the members reports, which that's next and I'll go around 1 of the 1st things I want to bring up is Margaret, your. Bluegrass land conservancy event was. This week, and I know you're going to comment on that and I want to say that it was. A great event, it sort of showcased phasic Tipton and the land in that area and you had a map that showed all of our farms as well. Well, posted at the entrance when everybody came in, so it was, I'll let you go 1st. So you can talk about your event and then I want to go around to all of our board members to let them put in there. 2 cents, 5 cents, 10 cents worth well, thank you. Gloria. It was a great night. It was April 17th. we raised a substantial amount of money for the bluegrass conservancy's bluegrass land conservancy's operations. We are now in 25 counties, and in Fayette, of course, we work arm and arm with the program. We were very excited to announce that night that we have just recently recorded a conservation easement on the entire Elmendorf farm on Paris Pike. It's over 700 acres, and we are holding that with the Kentucky heritage council. So, it will conserve not only the land, but the incredible historic resources on that farm. So, as excited as I was to have a successful night of fundraising, I was honestly equally or more excited about the Elmendorf easement. It's been a long time and coming and it's, it's been a 5 year effort at least. But we're thrilled to have it and we'll keep on working together with the PDR program and trying to conserve as much land as we can, not only in Fayette, but in 24 other counties as well. And I think it's wonderful. Yes, congratulations Margaret. Congratulations to all of us. It's more, it's just more. And I'll just start across the top. Phil Hager, do you have anything that you want to add that's gone on in your area? Not really, that's awesome news about Elmendorf. I've been on that farm quite a bit. It's really cool. So that's that's awesome. Phil Meyer. Nothing, nothing to, nothing new to report. Other than sorry to hear about what might happen on Military Pike. Robert James. Nothing to report. Margaret, you just gave yours. Let's see, Christine, do you have anything you need to add? I don't think I have anything to report. I did see somewhere, let's see if I can find it real quick. Well, I thought there was like a farming conference coming up, but it might have passed already. But so I have nothing to report. Mary Quinn. I know you have, we had a great March and so far in April, and I know you are smiling ear to ear. Yeah, it's busy season as we like to refer to it at the office. And if anybody's curious, today is actually what we call Visit Lex weather. So you're welcome. And when we get off this thing, we should all go outside and enjoy it. And just stay for the closed session, please. Joanna, how are things going with you? Everything is well and good. I got my 60 great plants in and I'm just going to watch them bloom this year. Oh, good. And you let us know first time we get a glass of wine. I will, I will, I will. Or grape jelly, whichever. Whichever come first. Jim Coleman. Madam Chair, I went to the Dr. Benson luncheon yesterday at Kentucky State. Dr. Acapo is just doing a marvelous job, had over 100 students that received outstanding achievement awards. I also was interviewed at Carter G. Woodson yesterday, yesterday morning by a group of young students who are building a marketing plan for my farm as a class project. So they wanted me to present. The last thing is that Coleman Crest Farm is having the first Kids Fest at Coleman Crest Farm on May the 19th. We've got about 50 young kids who are disadvantaged who are coming out to the farm. We're partnering with PAL and a few other organizations to bring them out to give them some exposure to agriculture and to learn all about plants and to do a tour and have face paintings and all kinds of fun. So I hope to do that each year for the community. That's fantastic. Thank you. Great. Well, I do want to tell you that I started the persimmon trees, the native persimmons from the seeds. And when they got up about a foot tall, I planted them last fall with cages and I went to look this morning and I had planted seven and they all seven have little green leaves the top. So we may have some more native persimmons. And I do have some pawpaws. If you know anybody, I know that Kentucky State is doing a big pawpaw study and I'd be happy to share some of my pawpaw sprouts if they need any more. But I suspect they have more than they want. They come up, they spread pretty fast. So, Stephen Howard. I'm going to come back and get some of those on my farm. I'll make a call. Say that again, Joanna. I'll come out and get a few just to experiment on my farm with those. Okay. I'll give you all you want. Stephen Howard. Nothing to add. Thank you. Will Mayer. No report. Thank you. I'll add to your report that the Southwest Clark County Neighborhood Association will be meeting on, I think, April the 28th at the waterfront. And I usually, I am a member and I try to go. And I know Will is usually there and you may be on that board. Because they do work with us a lot because of the Boone Creek Watershed that we share. The entire Boone Creek Watershed is in a National Register Rural Historic District. So, half of it's in Clark County and half of it's in Fayette. And they have been great to help us protect the farming in that area. So, we stand with them and they usually stand with us. So, I think Will's, you may be on that board. Are you, Will? I'm not. Okay. I know you do support it and you do attend meetings. They help you as well in yours. Did I miss anybody? Is there anything, Traci, that you need to add from a legal standpoint that we need to be looking at that we might have missed? No, I think we're all good. Okay. Well, we do have a closed session and we are going to have to come out and vote on a couple of things. So, I have that it's 4-12 and I want to call for a motion at 4-12 to enter into closed session pursuant to KRS-61810-1B to discuss the potential acquisition of real property interest, the public discussion of which is likely to affect the value. Do I have a motion? All right, Anna. And is there a second? I see Mary Quinn raised her hand too. And Stanley. Christine and Mary Quinn will be our seconds. All in favor? Show of hands. Okay. Beth, I think. Check time here. I've got 4-19. Lex TV, can you take us back on the air, please? Yes, ma'am. One moment, please. Thank you. Go right ahead, ma'am. Thank you. We're back in open session. It's now 4-20. I need a motion to announce for us to come back into open session. So moved. Just somebody, Phil. So moved. So moved. So moved. Seconds, Joanna. Seconds. All in favor? Raise a hand. Suggestion. Okay. We're okay. We're all covered. Having discussed what we did in closed session, I need a motion, two motions. One to authorize an offer to purchase farm 7-20-22. We'll take it one at a time. So moved. All right. And is there a second? The motion, Margaret. Lots of seconds. Christine. All in favor, signify by raising hands. I think most everybody. Okay, everybody. I think that was unanimous. And I need another motion authorizing to make an offer on farm 1-20-24 per the appraisal. So moved. All right. Robert, is there a second? Second. Gwen. Everybody. Okay. All in favor, show of hands. Perfect. I think, Beth, you can move right on with both of those. Okay, great. Thank you. And they've been, as you can tell, that's been outstanding. That's from 22, and it's now 25. So it's nice that we are moving on with these. And it's good to try to get those closed as soon as possible. It's wonderful that we have the funding in place. Let's see. Our next meeting, May 28th, another Wednesday. That's right after Memorial Day. Thank you all so much for always letting Beth and or me know if you're going to be here. Because like today, making these offers, it's important that we have a quorum to be able to do that. In fact, we have to have more than just the simple quorum in order to make purchases. So we need to make sure when we're voting on things that have to do with dollars that we have as many here as possible. I will ask, have we heard any more from Commerce Lexington? Have they said to us when they'll be sending us another member? They did say that they had a few. And they asked us about 1 that lived in Bourbon County, but owned farm or owned property here, but they reside. And we checked with the law department and the ordinance specifically states you must reside in Fayette County. So, but they said they had a couple of others options besides that 1. So hopefully we'll have a rep soon. Because we need them. So, I think that's it. Yes. Our time is. 725. Or 425. You're rushing us. 725 we might be falling over. A time to call for the motion to adjourn. So, yeah, we have a semi have a time depends on what time you're on. I guess you're still in Europe. Do I have a motion or any comments before we close? All right, Hannah's raised her hand. The motion fills a 2nd. All in favor. Signify by show of hands again. Thank you all. Let me please remind everybody that what we discuss in closed session is not to be discussed in the public arena. Do not let anyone know what the dollar value is or the farm, even though you may know the person and or the location, because we've all been so active in the community, but it is very important that we never discuss in the public arena what we discuss in closed session. Just a reminder. I usually try to do that beforehand, but I forgot. So it's on the list and we've already voted. So it was unanimous to adjourn. So, thank you all very much for coming. Thank you. Been a very productive meeting. Thanks guys. Thank you. You won't get through. It's a given. Someone's faster on the truck. No matter where you hide. I'm coming after. Hey, it's Baja Nicole with another episode of Your Lex PD. We are in season two, episode two. We're going to be talking with the Victims Advocacy Program that's under the Special Victim section here at the Lexington Police Department. And it's such a great program. A lot of times when we talk about law enforcement, you think about solving crimes. You think about officers responding to crimes, but sometimes we forget about the fact that there are victims or victims' families out there that have to navigate their way through the system after the fact, and we don't want to forget about them. We want to take care of them. And so this month, we're going to spend some time talking with them, see what kind of programs and resources are out there. So let's go talk to the Victims Advocate Program. All right. Hi, we are here with Ms. Leticia Hagerman and Ms. Cornetta Harris. And they are with the Victims Advocate Program with the Special Victim section. Thank you all for joining us. So law enforcement, many times when we think of that, we think of solving the crimes, responding to the crimes, the detectives solving the crimes, but we don't think about the victims. And we don't think about the victims' families. So obviously that's very important and something that the Lexington Police Department is extremely committed to work with and help these folks. So give us some examples of ways that this program helps those victims and families. So a lot of what we do, what we're talking about here is the follow-up. Okay, so if you have had to have police to your home or someone has had to call police to your home, we already know that you have survived a traumatic event. And it's very natural and normal to wonder, what do I do now? What happens next? What can I do to keep myself safe? What are my rights? And so that's where we come in. And we will reach out and contact by phone primarily, but also in person too as well, any survivors of an intimate partner violence, interpersonal violence, or any violent crime as well. And just let them know what the next steps are in prosecution. We can register them with Vine to be notified if their offender is released from custody, let them know when their next court date is. All victims, thanks to Marcy's Law, have the right to be notified in a timely manner of court proceedings as well as attend those court proceedings. So we call and let people know what their rights are as a survivor of a violent crime in Lexington. And you hear people talk about Marcy's Law more now, obviously. So that's really one of the major components of that is the notification process. It is. Marcy's Law made victims' rights in Kentucky a constitutional law. And so victims and survivors have the right to be heard in court proceedings involving their offenders. We work with every unit, every section of the police department. But if you are a survivor of an intimate partner violence crime, or we're talking about a crime against a child, you are also going to get assigned a detective who is highly trained, trauma-informed, victim-centered, and is also going to follow up with you as well. So all of our detectives in our unit are also very well-trained. They're like advocates as well. So it is very much a team effort between us and the detectives to make sure that anybody who has survived a violent crime in Fayette County, especially when we're talking about domestic violence or interpersonal violence, is going to be very well taken care of. So it's more than just the justice of getting the crime through the court system. It's about helping those victims all the way along. Very much so. And in a lot of cases, the investigation is still ongoing. If the patrol officer could not make an arrest due to various reasons at the scene, there's going to be a detective that's going to follow up and take those next steps and go above and beyond for that victim. And every single one of our detectives in the special victim section does that. And I've heard you say before that Lexington, and I think I've heard you say it too, that Lexington is very resource-rich as far, and that's really what you all do, is kind of put people in touch with those resources. And what are some of those resources? So we are extremely fortunate in Fayette County to be partnered with a lot of our outside agencies. A lot of what we do is referral-based. So our job is to make sure that victims and survivors get connected to resources to get help and get the next steps. We're very fortunate to have Stephanie Theakston in our Domestic and Sexual Violence Prevention Coalition board. We are a member there. And she provides us with resources for survivors of domestic violence to help them with their next steps, like providing them with security equipment and things that they might need to feel safer in their home. We're also very fortunate to be partnered with Divine Karama and One Lexington. And so he helps us provide access to programs and counseling and support for families who have survived an incident in Fayette County involving gun violence. So it's a huge program, what he's doing there. We work very closely with the other advocates at the county attorney's office, as well as the Commonwealth, so that the survivor has a streamline from the arrest to prosecution. And so hopefully the process for them is a little easier, given what they have survived. Now, does your program refer the victims to these? Or can they reach out and call them? Or does it have to? It's a little bit of both. It's a little bit of both. We communicate weekly with the county attorney's office. It's basically just communication to let them know what we've done with the victim, just so that, you know, because a lot of times victims, they may tell us one thing, but then tell them another thing. So it's just a way of communicating to see kind of just where we're going with that person. Kind of keep everybody in the loop. Exactly. So how would someone get in contact with you all? With the passing of Marcy's Law, try, with there being the four of us, we try to assign an advocate to as many case reports every single day as we possibly can. So ideally, if you're a victim of a violent crime in Fayette County, you shouldn't have to do anything. We will reach out to you. But if you need us, if you have a follow-up question, if there's anything we can do to help you, you can call 258-3700 and ask to speak to one of us. So it's more than just resources, right? And I've heard you all talk about this before. And the Lexington Police Department obviously very committed to this, that sometimes people just need to, when they're a victim or a victim's family, sometimes they just need to ask questions. They need to have answers. But I've heard you say before that sometimes they just need someone there for them. Yes, that's a very good point. Sometimes we're not going to make a referral. Sometimes we're not going to provide certain things. Sometimes what anybody might need after surviving a tragic situation is just somebody to talk to. And that seems like a small thing, but it's incredibly valuable. It's incredibly valuable to have somebody to talk to. You've just survived a violent crime, and you just want to talk it out with somebody. And we do that day in and day out, every day. We sometimes have communication with survivors. We no longer are working their case, but they still call and check in. A lot of times, too, and like Tisha was saying, just to kind of feed off of her, is that it may not be a referral base because there's a lot of times that victims will also come into like the lobby and want to speak to us. And it's just a matter of just, like you said, just listening and just hearing them out. And it may not be an actual referral that we get. So a lot of times we get individuals from just that may not be a referral to us. And they'll call us from downstairs and say, hey, so-and-so is here. Can you speak to this person, provide them with victim services? And we make ourselves available for that as well. Awesome. Well, we thank you all for joining us today. And I've learned a lot more about the Victims Advocate Program. Yes, thank you. Yes, no problem. Yes, you are very welcome. Hello. We are here with Ms. Robin Anderson and Marisol Contreras. Thank you for joining us. So you all also work with the Victims Advocates Program. Yes, ma'am. And one of the things you do is what's referred to as the SOS Program. Is that right? Can you tell us a little bit about that? SOS stands for Surviving Onward Sessions. And it is for families and friends that have lost someone due to homicide. We meet the first Tuesday of every month at the Dunbar Community Center. We start with some food, a little fellowship. And then typically we have a speaker every week in which we bring in from all different community agencies, such as One Lexington. We have a prosecutor come from the Commonwealth Attorney's Office. We bring in our Robbery Homicide Unit, Bluegrass Care Navigators, and many more. And also some of our grassroots type of services, such as SWAG, which is Tonya Lindsey who works with homicide families as well after losing her son. And it's just a way for families to come together and learn a little bit more about what our community has to offer and then find support with each other. Now, I know you had mentioned that these are, I guess, victims of homicide deaths. What about overdose deaths? Now we pretty much, you know, work up every case as much as we can. And one of the new areas that we are working with is overdoses, in which the person does not survive. And we will reach out to the family and just offer our condolences and let them know of any support that our community has and offer those services to them. Awesome. So, Ms. Contreras, can you tell us about your background? Yes. Like you said, my name is Marisol Contreras. I came to the department in 2022. That was the goal of the department when they opened a position for bilingual advocates. You know, it's a matter of trying to help the community, to make them feel safer, and to make them feel comfortable coming through with reports. When I talk to the victims, I always like to explain the process of what's going to be happening next. You know, I let them know if another person is going to be trying to reach out. their role is and why they're reaching out. Sometimes, you know, the barrier of the language makes a big difference in the impact. It can be intimidating for the person. So that's the reason why we try to provide the services in their language. So both reporting and also following up, that's very important to have that, absolutely. So when we were talking to Leticia and Cornetta, we were talking about, you know, the resources. So I know being on patrol, we're familiar with some resources, Greenhouse 17 and The Nest. Can you all tell us a little bit more about that? Well, when it comes, yeah. I'll give a little bit from when it comes again for the Hispanic community. We try to network with those agencies. Some of those agencies have also make efforts to have a bilingual person. So by different workshops and meetings that we attend with those agencies, we try to network. So let's say that I have a Hispanic person that only speaks Spanish, you know, I'll let them know. We have these resources that are provided through a different agency, but you can reach out to this person. She also speaks Spanish. You talk to them and they should be able to help you with this, this. And if you have to reach out to another agency, this is what their services are so that they have clarification on those resources. Ms. Contreras, is there a message in Spanish that you would like to say? Sure, yes. Mi nombre es Marisol Contreras. Trabajo para el Departamento de Policía de la Ciudad de Lexington. Soy la defensora de víctimas bilingüe. Trato de proveer servicios en español. Independientemente de cual sea un reporte que usted tenga que hacer, solamente quiero que sepan que pueden llamar para hacer sus reportes a la policía. Estamos aquí para ayudarlos y ayudarlos a navegar el sistema para que se sientan conformes y más apoyados por el departamento. Everybody here at the police department appreciates you as well. So thank you very much for joining us. Thank you. Thanks. So Bajie, it was really nice talking to the Victims Advocacy Program. I did not know that there was that many resources for the victims and their families. So what are we going to be talking about next month? All right, episode three of season two. We're going to be talking about something that's kind of near and dear to my heart. It's a program that I actually started 25 years ago and just recently turned it over to some other officers that were part of that program in their youth. It's our Explorer Post 357 for ages 14 to 21, giving them an insight and training into law enforcement. So I'm excited about that and going back a little bit and talking with some of the officers now that were part of that program when they were as young as 14 years old. So that's coming up next month. So join us next episode on Yearlex PD. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ We call them cool, those hearts that have no scars to show ♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ Hi, I'm Jenny, and welcome to Lexington Senior Center. We are doing chair yoga today for about 45, 50 minutes. You will need a sturdy chair, not a rocking chair, not a reclining chair, something sturdy to sit in. We'll also be scooting in it, make sure it doesn't scoot away from you. You can do this class with shoes on, shoes off, flip-flops off, socks. I'm going to choose shoes today, so let's sit up nice and tall. And we're just going to start with deep breaths in through the nose. Exhale through the nose or just a slight opening of the mouth. Just want to quiet your day, kind of be intentional of your next 45 minutes of stretching, twisting. We'll stand up just once and see how you do with your balance. So right now, just kind of come into yourself with your breath, those deep inhales once more through the nose. Exhale through the nose with a slight opening of the mouth. As you take those deep inhales, lift up your diaphragm, open the rib cage, and then on the exhale, closing the rib cage. On that inhale, think about lifting your spine up, even taller in your seat, drawing your navel in a little. Exhale, relax. Two more, just like that, nice and smooth. On this next inhale, let's take an inhale and slowly lower left ear, left shoulder. You're just going to slowly tweak your chin forward, and your head backwards, just a little tweaking front and back. Lifting your head up again, take a big inhale. And then this time, right ear, right shoulder. A little front, a little back. Lifting the head up once more, take a big breath. Exhale, lowering chin to chest. And raising that chin up, slowly lifting it to the ceiling as the head rests back. Feel free to open your mouth here if you want a little more stretch of the mouth, the jaws, that whole front neckline. Coming everything back up, let's take some half circles. So ear to shoulder, roll chin to chest, ear to shoulder. Drop back down, chin to chest, just these half circles. And good, drawing that head up center. One more here, we're going to turn your chin towards your left shoulder. And draw center with an inhale. And to the right shoulder. And coming center. Let's go ahead and start with just a few of the hands. Taking your left hand out, give it some waves. And some water flicks. And the other hand, reaching out. Put your right hand, give it some waves both directions. And flick of the water. Perfect. Coming back down, let's start with our shoulder rolls. Going up to the ears, roll back to the shoulder blades, lower down and forward. Take a big inhale as you lift. Exhale as you roll back. Exhale completely. Flowing one more this direction. Let's reverse three to the back. Blades, shoulders, ears, release down. Twice more. Inhale. Exhale. One. And good. Just going to relax there, shake it out. Just going to extend your right arm. And take it across the body. Now, if this gets confusing, just lengthen it and gently draw your left arm towards your chest. So you're stretching this back shoulder here. You can also take your thumb and touch each individual finger, give you a little more hand stretch, finger stretch. Taking this right, left arm, little more waves, reach high. Think about lifting through the ribs and then pat yourself on the back. It's going to stretch down the back of your arm. Inhale and exhale to enjoy that stretch. And good. Slowly relaxing, releasing, shake out any tension you may have. Let's reach out with the right arm. Reach, reach, reach. And then slowly just take it across the body. Give it a little hook there if you wish. Touch the fingers. Thumbs, give them a little roll around. And let's rise that hand up. Give it some waves. And pat yourself on the back. Enjoy that stretch. You can always assist the stretch if you want or just kind of hang out right there. And good. Now, reaching high, lift up through the ribs. I want you to interlace right there, flipping the palms. Keep reaching up through the ribs and then gently draw the chin to chest as the shoulders go behind us. You can pulse these shoulders out a little. And good. Taking it back up, take your eyes up and just flip your palms up. We're going to release the left hand down. Keep reaching up and take it over. So you can hug the side of your chair if you want to. Think about lifting up through the body, not so much shoulder to ear. Let's take three more breaths here. Good, one more. Slowly rise, this time just point those fingers up, reaching high through the ribs and sway to the other side. Up, up and over. Try not to collapse in the side bend. Up and big stretch. One more deep inhalation. And good, slowly release. You'll see more of those side bends. Now, I want you to just shimmy just a little center of your chair forward. The other way the spine moves, different flexion here, which is called cat and cow. So the hands go to the top of the knees, your spine pushes far away. Pulling that belly in a little. Take a big exhale here. And then inhale. This is called cow. Lift the chin, a little sway of that lower back and your inhale is here. Let's do that twice more. Rounding, contracting and exhaling completely. Inhale, scoop it up, take a big inhale. Exhale, contract. Last one here, just lift that chest up. And the chin and inhale. Come back to neutral spine. Sitting up super tall. Let's take our focus to our feet now. Heel toeing out. Think about rolling the ankles just a little. Get some activation in the ankles. Do that twice more. Heel toe out. Pushing the ankle out a little bit. And then heel toe back in. One more, one more. Sitting up super tall. We're getting ready to take a fold with a straight spine. Now come back in just a little wider. This is called small straddle. Taking the hands to the hips or your thighs. I want you to go ease into a bend with a super straight spine. Some people like the forearms just kind of hang out here. You're stretching this lower back where it meets your waistline. Some people will all the way down, touch down. So listen to your stretch. We're going to take three long breaths here. One more in the nose. Exhale through the mouth or nose. Helping ourself back up, hands go back to the lap. Push yourself up. Keeping that super straight spine. I want you to take your left shoulder and turn it to the right. Just a little turn. Super straight spine. Come back center. Right shoulder. Just turn the right shoulder. A little twist. And come back center. Now we're going to add some folding here. Left shoulder turns to your right thigh. And then take your shoulder towards your thigh. Pressing gently into that left knee. If you don't like that, you can always dangle the arm. Press it if you can. And then let's push off. Readjust that super straight spine. Right shoulder turns. Right shoulder folds. We hold and breathe. One more breath. And push off. Come back up. Now we're going to add it all together. Left shoulder turns. Left shoulder folds. Feel the fold. Roll center. Feel the lower back again. Come to the other thigh. And push up. Two more times. Left shoulder. Fold. Roll. If you want to go slower than I am, go ahead. Come back up super tall. Straight spine. Twist. Fold. And roll. Help yourself up. Back to the center. Now we've got three on the other direction. Right shoulder folds. Rolls. Thigh. And rise. Twist. Fold. Roll. And rise. Last one here. And take it up. Let's heel toe back in. Point up your left knee. Think about drawing it all the way up to your shoulder. Ankle circles. Other direction. Good. And then readjust. We're going to scoop underneath this time. I want you to sit as tall as you can. Bellies in and flex the foot. That means push the heel away. And then point the toe. And flex. And point. This time we're going to add the leg movement. If you, if your knee doesn't allow this, just leave it out. You can continue that point and flex. We'll do this twice more. Flex high. Point return. Flex high. Point return. Last one. Push through that heel. And then lower the leg down. Still with the toes facing your shins. Take both hands to the bent knee. And fold your body over the long leg. When you get there, try to point your toe a little bit. Enjoy this stretch. Take some deep breaths here. Now we're going to add a little twist here. Your right hand's going to go on the outside of your left foot. Maybe your left knee, wherever you are. Place your left hand right there on top. Just like you're in prayer. Let's open that prayer up and go to the twist. Fingertips to the sky. And close the book. Come back to prayer. And then help yourself roll up super slow. Scooping up the back of the knee there. And give it some hip circles. Reverse that circle. And shake it out. Other leg. So readjust that super spine. Try not to collapse in your seat there. Draw it up. Knee to shoulder the best you can. Ankle circles. Reverse that direction. Good, good, good. And then readjust. I like to scoop underneath. You can stay it on top, but it's easier this way. Flex and point. Flex hard. Push through that heel. Point hard. Twice more. Flex. Point. Flex. Point. Now let's add the knee bend. Flex and rise. Point and lower. Sit up tall. You'll try to collapse there. I know I do. Flex. Point. One more. Flex and rise. Point. Return. This one we're going to keep up and lower. Flex up. Super straight leg for the hamstring stretch. Both hands on the bent knee or the bent leg. Let's take the fold. Super straight spine. Straight spine. Straight spine. Get to the stretch. Then point the toe. Enjoy the stretch. Now option to add the twist. So your left hand's going to go way over on the outside of the foot, the leg, the knee, whatever you, wherever you are. Palms together. And then open up. So that is your right arm opening to the sky. And let's close the palms again. Roll up slowly. Scoop up the back of the knee. And give some circles. Blood to these hips and the other way. All right. Shake it off. Anytime you need to grab your water, grab your water throughout. And let's go for right. This is sun salutation. You'll see it in every yoga. Get comfy. We're going to sweep all the way up. Big stretch to the sky. At the top, start to wiggle the fingers. This is called raining down. Wiggle the fingers. Hands go to the top of the knees. And now you can round over and slide down your shins down to your ankles. If you can. We're just going to relax and take three breaths here. Your whole back is expanding. This is like a child's pose in a chair. Good. One more breath. Take the hands to the top of your knees. Push off like we did earlier in cow pose, lifting the chin. And then you're going to reach the hands straight up. Open up like a cactus. This is called cactus arms, goalpost arms. Good. And let's do it again. Inhale, rise. Take a big inhale. Exhale as you rain down. Hands to the knees and we slide down. Three long breaths. Hands to the top of the knees. Lift the chest, lift the chin. Take an awesome stretch. Inhale as you reach the arms up with it. Cactus arms. Exhale. One more all the way through. Sun salutation. Reach up. Rain down. If you need a little wiggle in the fingers, slide down. Three breaths. Now we're going to add a little, little something something here. Take your left elbow. Elbow up like a puppet. Add the twist. Look at your elbow. And then extend the fingers to the sky, little twist. Your chest might still be on the thighs. Go back to the bent elbow and come back to the shoes or your feet. Your right elbow is rising up. Just like a puppet. Reach it up to the sky to add a little more twist. Bend the elbow. Return back to the floor. Take one more big inhale and exhale. Help yourself. Come back up to your knees. Sweep back up to the sky. Take a big inhale. And exhale cactus. Taking the fingertips right there at the top of your shoulders. Warming up or loosening up some shoulder joints here. Let's roll those elbows to the front. You're actually obviously working your shoulders. Elbows are just drawing a line. Let's reverse. Two more. Good. Continue. Elbows straight out from the shoulders. Let's tap the shoulders, elbows together. You'll feel a stretch in your back and open it back up. Two more. Close and open. And one. Close and open. Now we're going to add a little something here. Take the fingers, just the back behind your ears. As you close your elbows, I want you to push your spine away and chin to chest. It kind of gets a nice flexion of the spine. Now big opening. Elbows, chest lifts, chin lifts. Take a big inhale. It's kind of like a good morning stretch. Elbows come back together. Your sternum tucks in. Your spine pushes away. Crunch. And a big extension. Inhale on the extension. Just one more through here. And open. And good. Extending the arms out. Taking your left arm straight out in front. Palm up, elbow up. Take your left arm, put it right in between if you can. Then you're going to, these are called eagle arms. If your hands can come around and touch the hands. If not, knuckles. If not, prayer. Stay right there. Sit up really, really tall. Now you should feel a stretch all the way across the shoulder blade area. We're going to point the fingers up and try to go up an inch with an inhale. And a slow lowering of the elbows with the exhale. Two more, slow. Feel the stretch in the back. Down. And just one more up. Awesome. Super slow down, all the way down to the chest and release. Extend the arms back out. Get a nice stretch. Big inhale. This time your right arm's coming out. Palm up, elbow up. Tuck that elbow in there. Swirl around if you can. Put knuckles if you can. No biggie. Little up, just a little, about an inch. Lower back down. Little up. Little down. One more. And elbows to the center of your chest as you release. Arms extended. Thumbs up. Little more for the shoulder rotation. Thumbs under. Thumbs up. Thumbs under. Thumbs up. And then this one, thumbs under. Hinge forward. Maybe scoot a little to your chair. Thumbs stay down. And if you can grab the back of the chair, you're going to have a stretch from shoulder to shoulder. And maybe you want to lift your chin for a further stretch in the chest area. And good. Help yourself come back in and shake it off. Okay. This is going to get into the hip flexor. This is called Warrior Series. Let's heel-toe. Get the ankle working again. To the side of your chair. So your left leg is on. You're going to slide your right knee down. Pointing the right knee down completely. Try not to be open. If you're open, it's okay. But if you can get that knee down in line with the spine. Now, if you're a little more flexible, take your right hand on your thigh and slide the toe back a little more. Some of you will be really tight here. All we're trying to do is open up this hip flexor, which is important for tight lower backs. Okay. Just hold that stretch. Hug in the back of your chair if you can. Right arm's going to rise straight up. Called 12 o'clock and the knee's pointing down to 6 o'clock. Hold that stretch. And then just turn your palm to the back of the chair. We're going to lift up from the ribs and take a side bend to the back of your chair with three breaths. Pointing that knee down is important. See if you can point it down. One more in and out of the breath. Come back to 12 o'clock with the hand straight up and three big back circles. It's always good to keep our shoulders loosey-goosey. This next one, we're going to scoop up the back of our knee. Bring our knees together, our thighs together. Get comfy in your chair. We're twisting to the back of our chair. So, with that said, go tall with the spine. Fingers to the sky. Take an inhale. Now, turn your body to the back of your chair as you place your hands down and slowly twist your spine. You want to relax that back shoulder, chin's trying to line up with it. Two more breaths here. It's a deeper twist. And one. Now, when you unwind, always unwind super-duper slow. Get these vertebraes lined back up. And we're going to the other side. Let's heel-toe again, maybe. Articulate these ankles. This time, your right thigh is on the chair. Your left thigh will be sliding down, pointing down to the floor. You can point the toe. You can curl the toe. Whatever feels comfy. The main thing is you want to take advantage of a nice stretch if you sit all day long. A couple of breaths there, just taking the stretch. Left arm's going to rise straight up, 12 o'clock. Think about reaching through the ribs, not shoulder to ear. Ready? Reach high. Take a dive to the back of your chair, pointing that knee down. Three breaths. Help yourself back up nice and tall. Three big back circles. And feel like you're swimming. Feel some resistance. Reach up, up, up, over, over, over. Last one. Up, up, up, up, up. Scoop up the back of the knee. Bring those thighs together. Before you ever twist, you always want to think about straight spine. So we're reaching high up, turning to the back of our chair. Hands come down, and it assists the twist. Relax your back shoulder. Good. One more big breath. Exhale and unwind, super-duper slow. Unwind, unwind. And let's heel-toe back to the center. Heel-toe, heel-toe. Good. I'm going to grab a little water. All right. We are going to go up and do... Oh, let's do hips first, and then we'll get up and do balance pose. I know you all love that. Left leg. So here's the options. Maybe you've had a hip injury, knee injury, and you can't get it above your thigh. Taking it down to your shin, your ankle is just as good. So, and then the harder it is with the ankle to the knee, a little easier shin to knee or knee to knee. Pick your poison there. Sit up super tall. All we're going to do is gently press into the knee and try to relax this hip. So this is called thread the needle if you're in real yoga. So let's sit up nice and tall. Take that deep inhale. Now you really take like an eight count inhale and an eight count exhale to try to loosen up any tension that is stored in your hip. And we're going to do it four long breaths. So if I count to eight, that's kind of the idea of how long you want to hold this breath. So here we go. Inhale. Six, five, four, three, two, one. Big exhale. As you exhale, gently press. Eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one. Empty completely. And then some people, if you don't store stress in your hips, you'll be able to fold forward and get a little, little unreleased there if you have any. Okay, here we go. Three more. Inhale. Exhale. Gently press. Completely exhale. Good. Inhale again. Option to fold. You don't have to. And exhale. Press. Good, good, good. One more. Inhale deeply through the nose. Exhale completely. Tell your hip to relax. Send that warm heat to the hip. Let it relax. And good. Relax. Help that leg off. You can give it some circles again. Sometimes people like to do that. Anytime you need to. All right. Other leg sitting super tall. Pick your position above the knee, below the knee, ankle, shin or knee. Tall, gently press. And here we go. Four breaths. Inhale up.