Yeah, Cheryl, before we get started, with all the applicants in the room, hopefully either Paula or Cheryl handed you your staff report, but we also handed out the new Article 21-6 standards. So if you have things that aren't being met, it might refer to a section of the zoning ordinance, and a lot of them are 21-6. So we provided that so you have a quick reference as to what that really means. And in some cases, it's like a specific note in the ordinance that needs to be worded exactly that way. So you have it in writing now and you can correct that when you get back to the office. If there are other sections of the ordinance reference, those are going to be on American Legal. But if you have questions, certainly contact your planning contact, which is at the top of the staff report. Again, it will say your project contact and then planning contact and Cheryl's at the microphone now and then Chris Chaney is also here, as well as we have one that's Daniel this morning too. And if any of the staff members need Article 21-6, because that's not quite published in American Legal yet, let me know. There we go. There we go. All right, I'm not sure which one's working, which one's not working. So let's move forwards. We're going to look at our first plan, PLN FRP 2519 Masterson Hills Unit 1R. This is located out. We got Spur Road that's way out this way, and Greendale is a little bit closer up. Right now they're proposing 14 buildable lots to dedicate easements and public right of way. With that, we have design considerations to review by Acela comments and considerations by the Division of Engineering. Division of Building Inspection recommends avoiding total utility easements of the building line for potential future use. They're looking at these building lines that are in front of the building line. They have utility easements, and they had some concerns on that. The discussion of the connection of the cul-de-sac right of way to adjoining property. When you look at this, we have what I consider a little spike. Consideration of pulling that cul-de-sac closer to the property line so that should, in the future, the adjacent property ever be redeveloped, it could be connected with minimal problems with the right of way connection. The staff recommends, with the following conditions from engineering, sign-offs from the following people, engineering, traffic, landscaping, addressing, Forester, Department of Environmental Quality, Bike and Ped, Open Space, utility easements, U.S. Postal Service. And with that, I'll open it to you all to see if there's anybody that has any comments or questions. I know I received an email from Brooke, and she said that she can be removed, so Environmental Quality can be removed off of the conditions. If there is anybody else. Cheryl, you can take me off. Okay. Take off Bike and Ped. Yeah. Thank you. You can remove Landscaping as well. Cheryl, you can remove Open Space as well. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Does anybody have any comments or questions? Did you want to say anything? Yeah, come on up. Let me see if that works. Hello. I think you're coming in on that one, because this one's still red. The streets and the lots match the preliminary subdivision plan, match the construction plans. It's built. I don't know what more discussions we want, but here I am. I noticed that that lot to the north. Yes. Page right. Yeah, page right. It doesn't have any connections from adjoining parcels. It would be nice if we could develop it from this side, rather than from Spur Road, in a small little, so you could extend your right-of-way right there, so you're not getting those corner lots. A little two-foot, four-foot piece. The gap in there, yes. Yeah. I can ask the owners. I don't believe they have any desire to do so. The owners of this or the adjacent? What are you talking about? No, only I can only talk to my project people. But that piece that's missing is the one-acre house or something. As Masterson was laid out, I think, to start in, like, 2004, that ownership had resisted ever having anything done to them. So we moved forward without them. Gotcha. Well, going forward, there's requirements that we stub into adjacent property, even if it's only an acre. So we'll push for that in the future. In the future, all right. Thank you. Staff recommends approval. Okay, so I'll make a motion to approve PLN FRP 250019. With the removal of four conditions, landscaping, environmental quality, bike, and open space. Correct. Second the motion. All in favor? Anyone opposed? We're going to move ahead to FRP 2520 Masterson Hills, Unit 1S, 2900 Spur Road. This one, we're looking at building, creating 56 buildable lots with one HOA and dedicated abeasements and public right-of-way. The HOA is located down in this area here. Better show the HOA. This is Spur Road along the backside here. With that, requirements not met. Addition of a 20-foot landscape buffer along Spur Road per zoning ordinance, Article 18-3. Design considerations review. Excel comments from Division of Engineering. Provide transfer layout from the Division of Traffic. Detail if corner lots have a preferred vehicular access frontage building inspection. Again, our typical sign-offs are engineering, traffic, landscape, addressing, urban forester, environmental quality. I'm going to remove her. She asked for it to be removed. Bike and ped, open space, utilities, United States Postal Office, and correct note deficiencies listed as requirements not met hereon. With that, I'll open it to you, the committee, see if there's any other comments or questions. Cheryl, you can remove bike and ped from that one as well. Is there anyone else that can be removed on this? What was the other one that was removed? You said? Environmental quality. Okay. I forgot to do this earlier. Rory Caley with VA Partners. We don't have building inspection here, and I haven't seen the question about preferred vehicular access on corner lots before. Does anyone have an idea what that means to me or what I'm supposed to know? Okay. I'll ask them. I just want to know which side, the front, and which side where the driveway is going to be. The front of the house. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Okay. Okay. I don't know what to do. Anything else? All right. Staff recommends approval, removing environmental quality and bike and ped. Okay, so the motion would be for approval for PLN FRP 2520 with the removal of conditions six and seven, correct? Correct. Okay. Second? Second motion. All in favor? Anyone opposed? All right. All right. Moving along. That's still on. Excuse me. Next plan is FRP 2521 Coldstream Farm Phase 2 property, lot 41. This is located at 1490 Citation Boulevard. The purpose of this plat is to subdivide one lot into two. This is Coldstream down here. I'm sorry, Citation Boulevard down here. Gatton Way is approximately in this area. The one lot divided into two. We have 16 requirements not met. Denote this property should be developed in accordance with the approved final development plan. Correct subdivision plat and title block to read final record plat. Project building lines on proposed lot 42, which is this larger lot. Denote list of public utilities per land subdivision regs. Clarify projected terminus point of proposed roadway. There's a proposed access easement across lot 41 for the benefit of lot 42. Let's see. Properties within the Royal Springs water protection area. Denote such addition of cross section for access easement. Denote all existing and proposed easements. Denote all structures shall have a floor that's not partially or completely underground that is at least one foot above elevation of the nearest downstream lid. Add required easements for maintenance and protection of storm management areas, storm drainage, and storm sewers. Add maintenance note per land subregs, article 5-4G. Depict sinkhole on lot 42. Depict 25-foot floodplain setback, vegetative buffer, and regulatory flood protection elevation per zoning ordinance. Denote development shall comply with article 19 of the zoning ordinance. Correct engineer certification. And depict the 100-foot building line along Citation Boulevard. There is a scenic setback along Citation Boulevard. This is the front yard setback. Right. Along a minor arterial. Right. But there is also a scenic easement. Waivers necessary. Number one, substantial improvements to be determined. That's by engineering. And number two is lack of frontage on an approved street for lot 42 requires a waiver or bonding. Design considerations. Review all Acela comments and design considerations provided by the Division of Engineering. Under plan, questions or concerns. Discuss the access easement recorded as a public street on adjacent plat. Discuss sanitary sewer service and possible need for a waiver. Is stormwater management located on site or by address? Is maintenance of on-site stormwater management defined? And then we do have 11 standard sign-offs, engineering, traffic engineering, landscaping, addressing, urban forester, Department of Environmental Quality, bike ped, open space, utilities, postal service, and then finally correct all the noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met herein. And with that, I'll open it up to the committee for discussion. Hi, Chris. Yes. Can open space be removed for sign-off? Thank you. Anybody else? No discussion? If not, if the applicant wants to come up. Thank you. Steve Vogel of Strain Associates here on behalf of the applicant. It seems like the two big questions that have come up on this are about the roadway, which really addresses the frontage, and then also the 100-foot building line. So the preliminary development plan shows the roadway extending and following basically as a direct offset of the property boundary up around. It actually included originally a crossing of the creek, which isn't anticipated to happen based on how the rest of Cold Stream was developed. But the intent is that that would extend through. I've talked to a lot of people that had comments and questions about this. Yeah, there was a question about whether Gatton Way, if this road here would extend and connect directly to Gatton Way. That's not the intent here. The intent is to have a roadway coming through and serving lot 42, which would be subdivided likely in the future, and then Gatton Way could tee into it. So that's the intent. And so ultimately frontage for both our property, 41, and the back property, 42, is intended to be provided off the road that is extending through the property. So our intent is not to use citation as frontage because we don't have access to it. We're limited to the access that was designed when citation was constructed in preparation for the road that was going to extend through the property. So I understand those are the two kind of sticking points. Did you say the preliminary plan was updated, I guess, to show the extension of the roadway to meet that frontage requirement? Is that what you're saying? For lot 42. I'm just saying the original preliminary development plan that was done in the 90s showed the road going up through there. But you're showing an access easement now as opposed to building a road. Sure. Yeah. And that was just a timing deal for our folks on the park side, wanting to make sure that we had flexibility on how and who constructs that piece. Ultimately, if it needs to be a private road instead of an access easement, we'd be willing to do that and extend that up to the property line? If that solves the issue. That would solve a waiver issue. Okay. Yes. Which issue doesn't it solve? Your 100-foot setback on Citation Boulevard. That doesn't solve that. So the 100-foot setback is not directly for citation. It's for frontage, correct? Sorry. Number 16, you have a front yard setback in the P2 zone on a minor arterial. So we're intending for our frontage to be along this private road. But nothing shows that there's a road. Okay. Everything you're showing us is an access easement, so then your only frontage is citation. Right. So if we change that from an access easement to a private road with the intent that in the future it would likely become a public road, would that address the concern for the frontage? Well, it doesn't negate the scenic easement that was designated. I think all of Cold Stream has the scenic easements along Citation and also Newtown Pike. So it's just within Cold Stream because the adjacent property right next to us is only setback the same setback. It is just within Cold Stream. Okay. So in order to modify that, we would either need a waiver or a new preliminary subdivision plan or preliminary development plan? Well, the scenic easement came from the original preliminary development plan, and then I believe it's also on a preliminary subdivision plan for the whole Cold Stream. And I guess, yes, you could modify it, and I don't know, Jim might be able to answer, if we've modified it on another parcel or another spot. I think McGrathiana may have a 50-foot scenic easement as opposed to 100, so there's probably some conversations there. But that was part of the original concept for Cold Stream was the scenic easement setbacks along Citation and at least Newtown. Okay. I guess I can't argue that if that's what's there. So I guess are there any other questions, or is there a path forward here? I still think that your front yard or the ordinance is really calling for a 100-foot setback on Citation, so that in essence pushes your buildings back another 50 feet. So even if this is a private road, our frontage is still going to be Citation? Well, I'm not sure we want it to be a private road either. That eventually has to go through a different process to become a public road. That has to go to the CAO and go through a whole different process to become public streets after they've been platted, which is a bit convoluted and very time-consuming. Sure. There is a process, yes. It's just kind of difficult to do. I guess from engineering and traffic engineering, I think we want to know why it can't be a public street from the beginning. Yeah, it was just a conversation we had between the developer and Cold Stream about timing for the construction of the road, and so this was the route we went instead. I guess we just need to know which way you're going to go, and then we can determine if you need waivers and what the easement or the road looks like. This is kind of like we can't give you the answer. There has to be some dialogue to figure out how to move forward at this point. Yeah, and we tried to meet early and several times with a variety of folks to try and nail this down, and I think when we met in planning, we said temporary access easement was the way to go, which is what we submitted. Right, but that then has a trickle-down of other issues. Then you need a waiver for frontage for 42 because it doesn't have any access based on that. It has an access easement, but it doesn't have street. All lots have to have street frontage. Right. I guess you can go the private route, but just knowing that it's going to be a process to effectively. Basically, in a year, two, three years from now, you'll have to prove that the street was built to public standards, which can take a long time, and then you've got to get council action. We had somebody come in a year ago to dedicate a street, and they're towards the end now. It's just a lot of investment to prove, so just to be aware. Well, I can't make that call. I need to talk to my folks about it. If you are filing for a waiver, those are due Friday. Okay. Anybody else? When I saw this, I assumed that this was going to be a roadway. That's why we picked up why I needed the name, and why I said the address of the parcel would be off your roadway because that's your connection to your new roadway. If it becomes a driveway off a citation, we're going to have a whole new ball of wax now. I think our intent is for it to be either a private or public roadway. That's what I assumed when I asked you for the street name. Right. Yeah, and we had had some other conversations about that offline. So, yeah, that was the intent was to make it a roadway. So we'll work that out if it becomes a roadway. Okay. I guess the other question would be timing of other infrastructure before you can record this plot and what would be bonded. So we've got to work through some of that as well. Sure. Yeah, those are obviously we can't work through that right now, but, yeah, we understand that that's a concern about the final recordation of this plot. Anybody else? Okay, so staff's recommendation was for postponement, so I'll make a motion for postponement for PLN FRP 2521 with, I guess, the removal of the open space plans approval of open space areas. Second. All in favor? Anyone opposed? All right. I've got a side item on this that just came up. We just talked about it. He's got 921 on the plan, but our record says an address of 1490 Citation Boulevard. Your sheet doesn't match the plan citation, I mean, yeah. Well, the plat sheet does. It says 1490. You're looking at the development plan? But the parcel is 921 Citation. Oh, okay. Gotcha. The whole parcel is 921 Citation. We'll get that fixed. Okay. Okay. We backed him up. Okay, we're going to, since we just went through Cold Stream Plot, we're going to move forward to MJDP 2548 Cold Stream Farm Phase 2 property development plan so that you all can see the development plan that's going with the record plot. Out here is Citation Boulevard. This is the proposed access for the apartments that they are proposing. They're proposing multifamily with 286 dwelling units. The access is in this location here in the middle. They show an emergency access out this way to Citation Boulevard so that we meet the two access points for the fire department is the way I'm understanding this. With that, requirements not met. Denote all buildings, paving, signs, fences. This is a note from building inspection. Provide enclosure specifications and backing distance for the garage area for waste management adjacent to the garage area. All internal pedestrian walkways must comply with zoning ordinance 16-6. Direct access to Citation Boulevard is required for zoning ordinance article 16-6. Review offsite drainage patterns and provides means and easements past their drainage for the Division of Engineering. Depict the regulatory flood elevation and flood protection elevation. Division of Engineering. Depict 25-foot building setback from floodplain. Division of Engineering. Depict vegetative buffer with Division of Engineering. Addition of written scale per the zoning or planning. Addition of record plan information from zoning ordinance 21-planning. Clarify contour elevations. I found one elevation and then it was kind of hard to find the numbers for the different elevations on the property. Dimension all points of ingress, egress, buildings, open space areas from division planning. Correct name of proposed street from planning. Addition of existing and proposed easements from planning. Clarify information and site statistics box. Moving the handicapped parking maybe to under the clubhouse. You have handicapped parking under one of the buildings that you're showing and then you have like the remaining of all the parking underneath the clubhouse. So I don't know that you have all the handicapped parking in one building. I saw them spread out. Addition of bike parking by the clubhouse. Addition of 100-foot scenic easement building line depicted on preliminary development plan. This is what we were looking at. The 100-foot scenic easement that went along Citation Boulevard per the preliminary development plan. Design considerations. Consider utilizing the cross section for an avenue outlined in the urban growth master plan from traffic engineering. I know that you said that this was part was going to connect. This road was going to ultimately connect over to the other part of Cold Stream. And so on the other side of cold on the other side of the creek, there was a boulevard. So the avenue is similar to what they're looking for. Denote review and recommendations from the Royal Spring Wellhead Committee from engineering and planning. Plan questions or concerns. Clarify projected terminus point proposed roadway from addressing. Discuss how maintenance building and enclosures will be joined and clarifying the use of enclosed dumpster and compactor. They show all of that together as one building and had concerns on the gates for the compactor. Discuss street cross section to match preliminary development plan and McGrathiana Parkway. As I said, this was to connect and it was going to be McGrathiana Parkway. So that was a boulevard on the other side. So there was question is, do we want to have that boulevard on this side here? Because that was what it was proposed. And plus with the question with traffic engineering, the urban growth master plan. Then the sign offs for the staff recommends with the sign offs, engineering, traffic, landscape, addressing, urban forester, department of environmental quality, bike and ped, open space, division of fire, division of waste management, documentation from the division of water quality, U.S. postal service, and then correct all notes deficiencies under requirements not met. I'll open it to the committee to see if there's any other comments or questions. Sure, my note about the roadway under plans. You can pull that note. Okay. The terminus point. Addressing, ask for concerns to be removed. I had a question. Yes. I guess does the, if it's a private street or a public street, would it need to be constructed to the all along the frontage with this construction and DP and there's something else. Oh, terminus does. I mean, I guess if it's supposed to extend on the old DP, then that's good. Right. If it's stubbing into the next lot, then that insinuates that there will be, you know, the road continuing and there would be frontage built for that lot. If they don't intend to continue it, we would expect a termination of some sort of like a cul-de-sac. But at this point, what we're seeing is half construction along what would be frontage to continue up to lot 42. So it's a bit of a mixed, mixed bag. And what is causing the issue on the plan, obviously, is this access easement that is only halfway proposed for construction. It doesn't go along the complete frontage of the property. Yeah. Chair, you can delete the number four on the requirements not met. They got that. I don't know what I was looking at. Requirements not met. Okay. Direct access to Citation Boulevard. It may be, it may be pertinent though to put a note saying that the sidewalk access remains if and when the vehicle access is removed. Because I think they have to have two access points to comply with fire code. But eventually, once everything is built out, their other access points will be at other locations. So I think they have a stub at the rear of the north of the property. So I think the intention is that goes away at one point in the future. But we want the sidewalk access to remain. So maybe just a note that that, or the south to remain if and when the driveway is going to leave, or is removed. So what would trigger the driveway being removed? I believe in discussion with Steven, it would be the connection to Gattenway and the route to the north. What's that? So they've got that stub into their property line. So eventually we'll, when Gattenway comes across and connects, there should be another access point. And I believe it, I believe it's their intention that the one at Citation would no longer be necessary. Okay. Any other comments, questions? In regards to trees, the proposed canopy coverage information is incorrect. It's currently listed giving credit for large trees as 900 square feet. That needs to be changed to 750 square feet. Which would change the total number of trees proposed from 122 to 147. And then on that note, I would like for them to consider any type of mitigation proposal to go along with the large number of trees that are being proposed to be removed. Any other comments? Applicant, do you have any comments? Steve Ogle, Strand Associates. Yes, the roadway access to Citation was temporary. That's something we discussed with Captain Lengel before he retired. And then with Firefighter Beatty as well, about having that secondary access as required by fire code. That is supposed to be temporary, but yes, the sidewalk to remain. That's definitely the intent. I guess I had a comment about the cross-section for the avenue. I was told that we would actually have to get a waiver in order to use that cross-section because it's not in the... It's not currently in the subdivision regulations. It was just, again, it was just a, hey, consider this. Obviously at this point we can't require anything like that. If it's greater than a collector street, so isn't the avenue replacing the kind of collector street? So if it's, say, a collector street is 70 feet and right away and has so much pavement and so much sidewalks, if the avenue is greater than that, you don't need a waiver, right? You're providing in excess of the current standard. If it's less than, then we would need a waiver. Gotcha. Again, it was just to consider. So we'll need to figure out the 100 foot building line along Citation. That's kind of our biggest issue right now. Obviously we're going to extend the roadway because that's the path of least resistance. It just makes sense to go ahead and do it. But we were trying to, I guess, get cute with it and it didn't turn out well. So we'll just do something different. And then I will just say the plat the city did for Coldstream that created this lot, it doesn't show any of this on there. So any of the setbacks, easements, building lines, none of that is shown. I did notice that in our, in our thing. It focused on the area that the city was purchasing or transferring and not necessarily this remnant parcel. So I agree. And then I think it was the thought was it would be taken care of when that property was brought in for development.  So we obviously used the older plat and then looked at the frontage on our roadway.  There was no building line on Citation at all. Right. Yeah. So that's where the, I guess, miscommunication happened and then with the canopy calculations we can, we can have the landscape architect fix those. Sorry about that. Any other questions I can answer? I was just curious. Could you walk us through or describe what that diagram in the north right hand corner is? Is it the courtyard by chance? So up here? Yeah. Yeah. Those are some just amenity areas. Yes. It's actually easier to look at without zooming in. But yeah, there's connected sidewalks to some amenity areas back around the backside of the pool. They're not enclosed in the pool terrace, but they'd be separate areas. Okay. And whenever you submit your open space exhibit, just highlight that area and describe what you're doing with that courtyard. That would be great. Thank you. Anybody else? So, I'm sorry, I'm waste management, Scott Burton. With the maintenance building, it's kind of unusual to have a dumpster enclosure, you know, connected. However, this is going to work out, but I will need to see some sort of a detail, you know, if it's going to be a double dumpster enclosure, the width, you know. Yeah. So I've got that based on the conversation last week. We just mentioned the clear opening, a minimum of 12 feet. So I can send you that updated architectural layout. That's fine. And one of my questions was the backing distance from that, the one side of that dumpster enclosure back to that, where that sidewalk is going to be at. We need to make sure we got a clear, we can get in there and square it up. Yeah. And we don't want to back over. We won't back over no sidewalks or curves or nothing like that. So. But. Okay.  we've got, we've got access there and I can give you a diagram showing that. There's a compactor and a recycling dumpster, and they're in two. All in the same with the maintenance facility. There's not any other dumpsters. Correct. So it is a compactor. Yes. That was one of his questions. And one last thing is as far as a dumpster enclosure goes, nothing else can be in there with those dumpsters. No tanks. No. You know, nothing. Yeah, sure. They're, they're isolated. Yep. Okay. So. Yes, they do. All right. Anybody else. So get this right. So we're removing four under requirements not met. And then did you say addressing his approval can be removed too? No, I think he clarified that under the plan questions and concerns. Okay. Number one has been answered, but. Okay. I would note we should probably add a concern is tree mitigation. Okay. Adding to the requirements or under concerns. Yeah. Tree mitigation. Okay. Okay. All right. With nothing else, the staff recommendation edition was for postponement. So we'll make a motion to postpone peeling MJ DP 2548. With the removal under requirements, not met of note number four, the removal of plans questions and concerns of clarify project terminus point of proposed roadway. And the addition of a tree mitigation to plans questions or concerns. Second. All in favor. You want to post. All right. Okay. Going back. On our agenda. P L N M P L N M J D P 2540. NDC property unit for unit one, a and unit three located at four 83 West Reynolds road and five 19 and five 23 Wellington way. The purpose of the plan is to create an additional access to subject property property from Dorchester place. Wellington ways here at the bottom of the plan and Dorchester. Right away is long here and they're proposing a access at this point. Oh, and this is not on the staff report, but Paul has let me know that there's no development plan affidavit or photos that have been submitted for this plan. So if you could get with us on that under requirements, not met a number one to note all buildings, paving signs, fences, the building inspection note. Number two, denote structures built in areas of alluvial of alluvial soils will have a foundation and footer detail prepared by a licensed professional engineer prior to issues of a building permit. Number three, provide dumpster enclosure and concrete pad specifications. Number four, depict internal sidewalks that comply with the zoning ordinance article 16 dash six. Number five, use standard site statistics box. Number six, remove either note number seven or number 11. They're they're identical. No. Number seven, denote adjoining property owners and record plan information for the zoning ordinance. Number eight, depict all existing and proposed easements. Nine group, all general notes together, add sidewalk connection connections to the right of way. Number 11, denote no building permits shall be issued unless and until the final development plan is certified by the secretary of planning commission. Number 12, dimension, all driveways, walkways and proposed entrance. Number 13, correct. Note number six, per the zoning or the zoning ordinance article 21 dash six. Number 14, revised note number four to read stormwater, sanitary sewers and public streets improvements shall be designing constructed in accordance with the LAPCG engineering manuals. Number 15, include open space requirements in the site statistics and label how common green meets the 10% usable and vegetated area requirements on the development plan. And then there are no waivers necessary or design considerations at this time that we've identified under plan questions or concerns. Number one, discuss traffic pattern for dumpster service and location of dumpster adjacent to proposed access. Number two, does the right of way for the new road on the adjacent parcel Dorchester place extend to the property line? Who is responsible for the green strip between this parcel and the proposed street and sidewalk? Number three, will the proposed entrance be a concrete commercial driveway entrance? Number four, have proposed entrances been approved by traffic engineering? Number five, what is the condition of the opposite side of the roadway? Does this entrance line up with another entrance on the other side of the new roadway? And then under the standard sign offs, we have engineering, traffic engineering, landscaping, addressing, urban forester, environmental quality, bike ped, open space, fire, divisional waste management, postal service. And the final condition is to correct all the noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met here. And with that, I'll open it up to the committee for discussion. If they could add provided canopy coverage totals to the plans stats, that'd be great. And provided the provided amount. Chris, you could pull it. You could pull addressing off of him. Chris, you can remove five. Any other discussion removals? Since all the structures are built, we can probably take the post office off. Yeah. There are two structures not built, but they're not proposing any new structures at this time. Is someone here with prime? Oh, or the owner. I'm Mike Ritchie, the owner and a license engineer. Prime is our, is our engineering consultant. Let me address a couple of things here on, to begin with the whole goal of this project is to provide alternate access. Right now. We don't have one. We have three. So it's three different projects. We're going to have four different projects. It's going to be four different projects. So that's a lot of projects. There's going to be a lot of work. The whole goal of this project is to provide alternate access. Right now, we only have one access. And quite frankly, it's a disaster. The reason for the location of this entrance as it's built right now is because there's a conflict between this. In fact, at the time, this proposed access road, Dorchester, was proposed at entrance when Wellington Way was, excuse me, Wellington Way was built. They had a direct access going into. Let me see if I can show this. Okay. Okay. See right here. This entrance. Instead of going straight in, there was a conflict. I think it's the blue book due to the other main entrance. I just shifted back. Okay. Being a minimum distance between the proposed easement here and the entrance. So the developer, this was way before our time. This was back mid-2004, 2005. All they did was just shove this. And what you have here is kind of a disaster at times because you have no storage whatsoever, and you have people coming out from both sides of the building. And this building right here is operated by the University of Kentucky Specialized Pharmacy. There's cancer patients in there. There's people getting infusion. We have had issues where people faint in the parking lot leaving after, you know, an hour or two infusion. And there's so much traffic in the front there, the ambulance can't even get in for several minutes. It's a disaster. And that's our whole intent and purpose of wanting this additional access back here for safety reasons. And right now we only have one. And I've heard you say in some of the other ones today, you know, police and fire always really want two. It makes total sense, okay? And that's all we're really trying to do. This whole project is about 40 feet long. And about 20 feet of it goes into this new right-of-way. Let me address on the plan concerns and concerns. Does traffic pattern or dumpster service location dumpster adjacent to proposed access? We'll deal with waste management on that. But, again, we didn't pick that. That was proposed years ago. Does the right-of-way of the new road or adjacent parcel of Dorchester Place extend to the property line? Yes, it does. Who's responsible for the green strip of this parcel of proposed street? I think this Dorchester Place is proposed to be a Lexington City dedicated street. Sidewalks are in. The streets are in right now. So whoever's responsible for the city right away, that's who would be responsible for that. Also, adjacent property owners are responsible for the green strip between their structure and the actual roadway. Okay. All right. You might have to start mowing some of that. We can handle that one for sure. Will it be a commercial concrete driveway? Probably not. It would probably be asphalt. The existing roads are asphalt. The existing parking lots are all asphalt. So I'm assuming that would all be asphalt. Condition of the opposite side of the roadway entrance? Right now, I have no idea. That's owned by North Asheville Avenue Baptist Church, and I don't think there's any proposed immediate plan for them to develop any of that. I can tell you they have been approached by a number of people even before this road got in, including myself, about some options for some property. They have zero interest in it. So maybe that addresses those questions. Any other questions? You know, the buildings, this goes into an additional lot. The tree canopy comment that, Eric, I guess you made. I did submit pictures as part of our tree plan, but I got to tell you, none of those, there's only about two of those trees are even on our property because the lot line for that right-of-way here is, see these curved lines here in this parking? The property line varies between six and eight inches behind that curve, and even the trees that are there aren't on our property. The only other trees that are there are the ones that I submitted that are planted because those lots are undeveloped at this time. There's trees in all the curves around the other areas, so does that satisfy what you need? I think that what I was saying is that just in the note in the stats, I think you all were just missing what canopy total you were providing. That's all. If you want to reach out to me. Okay, I don't think we're proposing any new trees. There's no trees really in this area, and there was none that would be affected by the construction. Yeah, I think it was just to keep everything clean, just whatever current provided canopy coverage you have, just make that explicit in the stats, if that makes sense. If you have 20 large trees, you would take them? Whatever you've got there. The largest tree there is probably about six inches in diameter. It's the only one that's not even on our property. I think they mean for the entire site. Yeah, the entire site. The development plan is, even though it's for this entrance, it's the entire site that they need the tree canopy coverage provided in the stats. Okay, let me be clear on that. Is that the entire Wellington Office Park development you're talking about? Yes, because that's what's shown on this plan. You just need to count the number of trees that got planted. Hopefully, they planted the ones that were intended. So if there's 20 times, if they're large trees, 750, and it gives you a canopy number. Well, there's no large trees in there. This site is off. No, it's the species. That's the species. So if it's an oak, tulip poplar, ginkgo. Let me follow up with you on that one. Yeah, it's not a complicated thing. It's just to make sure everything's spelled out. Okay, all right. Any other questions or anything while I'm here, if you have with me? Yeah, Henry Beatty with FIRE. Just to clarify, do you have two access points there coming off of Wellington, as it shows on the plan, or one? Well, okay, there is two, but one is predominantly an entrance because it's one way. It's one way in and one way out on that one. The main entrance there in front of the building is the problem because people come around from both sides of that building, and they're parked. Those that want to go left are blocking one of the lanes. Ones that are going right are in the other. But then when someone comes in, they can't even get off of Wellington Way because there's a car parked there trying to get out, and it backs up. It's a nightmare at 5 o'clock in the afternoon, 4, 30, or 5, but it's been an issue a few times because, you know, when police and FIRE shows up and the lights are going, people just freeze, and they just totally block it. Meanwhile, someone's down and out on a pavement or something getting treatment. So that's our major concern for this whole thing, just to provide an additional access. And quite frankly, that access coming in from Dorchester, you have the way to go right or left turn, and there's adequate storage obviously all the way down the strip. Clarifying on sidewalks, if I could ask one additional question on that before I leave. I appreciate your time. There is sidewalks on Dorchester Place. There's not any additional sidewalks around the parking area right there right now. That's just open pavement. Are you all saying you want new sidewalks? So there's two buildings that are unbuilt. Because they're unbuilt, basically you would have to provide the new standards for those two buildings. Now, that being said, you haven't built the buildings, so you wouldn't have to build the sidewalks until you build the building. But then those two buildings would need to have a sidewalk from the right-of-way to the building, basically. So basically a pathway, a dedicated pedestrian pathway to those two buildings, shown on the plans. And again, you're not obligated to build those until you desire. Okay. Question though, would that be like a striped area for a pedestrian access way across a parking area? So through the aisle, yes. But then like through the islands or as you connect between the road and the street. It would be concrete wherever it can be, but through the actual driving aisles, it would just be a marked crosswalk. Okay. And there's standards for that in the regs, so your engineer can look at those. Yeah. Like I said, it's really for those two buildings that just haven't been built. Because for them, the new standards apply. The others, they're already there. Right. Thanks. Thank you for your time. Appreciate it. All right. Anybody else have anything? All right. So staff recommendation is for approval. So I'll make a motion to approve PLNN MJDP 2540 with the addition of a tree canopy, updating the statistics on provided tree canopy for the entire lot. So that would be number 16. The removal of addressing offices, approval of street names and addresses, removal of division of fire, and the removal of the United States Postal Service. So moved. Second. All in favor? Anyone opposed? All right. Passes. Okay, we're moving forward. We're going to PLNN MJDP 2542 Phelps property. This property is located out off of Richmond Road. Here's Old Richmond Road at this area here along this property boundary. And then we have Aphid's Way. There's a lot of work going on out there. They're closing Old Richmond Road and realigning Aphid's Way to connect over here to Old Richmond Road. Plus, we have the R-cuts that are being worked on here on Richmond Road in this area. They are proposing to have like a C-store here in this area with gas pumps. We believe this is a restaurant. We have townhomes and apartment buildings and the rest of this. This is an office area in here. They are proposing a private street to – let's see if I can – yeah, there we go. They're showing an easement or access coming off of Old Richmond – or coming off of Richmond Road into the property. And they're creating it and calling it a private street that runs through over to Aphid's Way. With that, as I said, that's a mixture of different uses on the property. Requirements not met provide dumpster enclosure and pad specifications. Depict all in existing proposed easements from engineering planning. Dimension all driveways and walkways. Engineering provide open space exhibit depicting location and area calculations for usable open space. Open space and planning. Clarify street cross-section CC and EE and the addition of a cross-section for the private street. On here, there's a couple – the access – the street cross-sections here didn't match up with the location on the plan, and then they're missing a street cross-section. Depict internal walkways in compliance with the Zoning Ordinance 16 from Traffic and Bike. Modify raised pedestrian crossways to comply with the Zoning Ordinance Traffic. Addition of new cross-section on Aphid's Way, including pedestrian path. Addition of building line per Zoning Ordinance. Addition of purpose of plan from planning. Provide 15-foot buffer between the adjacent EAR properties in compliance with the Zoning Ordinance Article 18. Provide typical detail for the landscape berm, how you're meeting that 15-foot landscape buffer between the two zones. Modify the vehicle use in the front yard on Richmond Road, Aphid's Way for planning. That's Article 16, 6A1. Modify the placement of parking between buildings and streets, Articles 23A. This is in the expansion area. This was rezoned CC a little while ago, and so this is still part of the expansion area master plan. There's no waivers at this time. They've been proposed. Review all ASELA comments and design considerations by Division of Engineering. Submit a 50% design report to Planning and Engineering. Appears that there are line levels that may need to be turned off for Aphid's Way. It looks like it's doubled up on the corner here close to Richmond Road. Plan questions and concerns. Provide street names, suggestions, or addressing. For addressing, we'll assign a name for the private street. Discuss connectivity with Lots 2 and 3 to provide a secondary means of egress. With the number of dwelling units, you're only showing two at the same point here, at the same location, and so they might be considering another access point back here in the rear portion of the property. Clarify if trail to Jacobson Park. Clarify the trail to Jacobson Park. Discuss how the property will be sewered and sanitary sewer capacity from Engineering. Discuss Section EE and where it is shown on the plan. Engineering is the intersection of the middle of the four-way stop condition. Discuss the raised pedestrian table and vehicular movement. What is the cross section of the 16'6 right end off of 8th and Spoonsboro Road and 16' in the Aphids. Have proposed entrance between project and the KYTC from Traffic Engineering. Has that been approved? Discuss construction entrance shown on the west side of the property. A construction easement encroachment with KYTC. They've shown the construction to be off the site over here. And so, with that being on the Old Richland Road, there was a question. Discuss Old Richland Road requiring timing of closure and back of the right-of-way and what it will become, taking back of the right-of-way. So, when this is closed, when Old Richland Road is closed, who is going to get what portion and how much is to each side of the road? What are the specifications for the eight-foot path? Will the parcel be subdivided? Is a sanitary sewer tap available for each proposed lot if subdivided public sewers are needed? What is the proposal for the Stormwater Management Division of Engineering? The plan shows encroachment into an existing stormwater management facility. Has there been an analysis to determine if the proposed reconfiguration would be adequate size and volume for stormwater quality and quantity in the existing and the proposed development? Discuss who will own and maintain the stormwater management areas. Engineering discuss addition of do not enter sign for the access from Richmond Road. Then, we have our typical sign-offs. Engineering, Traffic, Landscape, Addressing, Urban Forester. The Department of Environmental Quality, Brooke, has asked for that to be removed. So, six will be removed. We have Bike and Ped, Open Space, Division of Fire, Division of Waste Management, Division of Water Quality, U.S. Postal Service, Kentucky Department of Transportation Cabinet, for approval of access to Athens-Boones Railroad, and then correct all moat deficiencies listed as required, not met. Are there any other comments or questions? Anyone else can be removed from the list. I've got a suggestion, and that doesn't mean that much to us, but technically, APHIS-Y is gone. It's been removed, actually, from our database. I might suggest that people don't get confused. You might change that wording to Proposed Old Richmond Road right away. Because if people try to now find APHIS on our database, it's been pulled out from the center lines because Blacktop's gone. It's just dirt. So, that's just a suggestion. I don't know what other divisions think about that, but it's no longer there. So, it's just what you all might want to do. Okay. Anyone else have any other comments? I do have a comment. But I know, Tony, I know you corrected, just add your stamp to the TPP. And that probably just, while we're talking, on the tree inventory maps and the TPPs, you need to have certified arborists or registered landscape architects actually put their stamp or their certification number and name on the TIMs and the TPPs, please. Thank you. Thank you. Tony Barrett, Barrett Partners, here on behalf of the owner. And Dick Murphy is here as well on behalf of the owner. Really don't have a lot of specifics. I see that we have a postponement. Clarification, that's postponement to the next technical committee meeting. Is that how that works, or what's the process? Well, I guess one question would be we do have it as waivers, not necessary or none at this time, because you haven't asked for any waivers. Okay. If you are going to ask for a waiver, those are due Friday, and you would then go to the subdivision committee and the planning commission to determine the waivers. And I think from planning's perspective, 13 and 14 are the things that could be waived but would need your attention. And those have to do with the parking locations. So that's Article 16 and then also 23. Right. Okay. Yeah, that was leading into my other comment. We'll have to review those conditions with Wawa and see how they can address those otherwise, or we may need to come in with a waiver. And that's due Friday, so we can address that. Yeah, and if you haven't been out there recently, AFITS is gone, as was identified, been tore out and Old Richmond Road is being rerouted to a new intersection where AFITS came out, and it will just roll in and continue. So that is well underway, and an immense grading process is in operation there. And as part of the state improvements out there for the R-Cut, the entrances, as shown here, are being developed. And so they are visually there, not paved, but the route is clearly identified. And then, David, I think your comment, do not enter, was really do not exit. That was the intent. We'd like to come in, but we can't get out back onto Richmond Road. The reason for that was there was one other parcel down Richmond Road where they've got something sort of similar, and they wouldn't put up the do not enter, and we'd have to exit the entering. I don't know, just a thought to put it on the plan. That's the intent. So 30 years in the future. From the inside, we can't get out, but we certainly don't want to prevent somebody from coming in. Yeah, definitely. And, you know, we've got a lot of comments to address that we can probably best serve individually with the different staff levels. Any specific questions? And maybe it's just something we'll need to research a little bit. Maybe you have the plans, David, but the reclamation of old Richmond Road, I didn't know at some point there was a discussion of whether that would be a trail, but then it's not exactly being shown as a trail. And I don't know if somebody was going to pull up the pavement or just go away and leave it there. I just didn't know. We were not proposing it as a trail. I don't think the state is proposing it as a trail. We have a trail system that basically parallels it through our property as delineated in gray on the plan. I think Ellerslie folks were not interested in a trail at that location. I think I saw the plans. It looks like they're taking up old Richmond Road. Now, I think they're missing, I looked at the sheets, I think they're missing a sheet because the section between where AFITS met old Richmond and the roadway I couldn't find in the plans, but it looks like they're calling for demolition and removal. We're anticipating berming, our half of the right-of-way. So we were not anticipating that that would be retained as a trail. And it shows you have trail access exiting out to the previously old Richmond Road. So will that be removed or changed? That was a conversation during the zoning process to provide access. That lines up with Livingston Lane in Ellerslie. So if Ellerslie were interested in making that connection, the connection is available to them. The CC zone has to be connected to pedestrian access to all adjoining residential uses. I think there is an easement in the Ellerslie area, right, for if there ever were. Didn't we look at that? The right-of-way of Livingston comes right up to the right-of-way of Richmond Road. But it's not built yet. Yeah, it's built. The townhouse development's built. There's no easement, though, to connect there. I was thinking there was. No, there's nothing there. I'm pretty sure we were looking. We'll check it out. Move on. I only mentioned it, Tony, because I don't want the landscape berm to be blocking that access. Right, yeah. Perfect. And then the CC zone requires unique open space requirements. So I'm sure you and I can talk about that offline and figure that out. But it's just a little different. So we'll work that out. Okay. I think the landscape examiner noted that there's a 15-foot buffer between the EAR1, which is the Denton property side, and the CC. But your berm is 11. So I think planning was asking if we could get a detail of the berm, because the berm might be able to work with, again, based on its height, some of the other requirements of Article 18. Okay. So if you can put that detail on there. I guess we assumed there would be trees planted on top of the berm to meet the other requirements. But that might be helpful for the landscape examiner planning and then the Ellerslie folks, so they know what to expect. Lane and Ben and I have been in communication about how to address that. I had a real quick question about the sanitary. Have you all given up on the pump station, or can it be served all by gravity? I don't know the exact details of that, but we were coming up from the Ellerslie entrance. There's potential there along the right-of-way, or also to come up through the park. That way, I don't know that a pump station situation is going to be mandated. In our earlier review of that, we were anticipating that there was a gravity potential, if we could make those connections. Okay. Yeah, Tony, from a public safety perspective, right at where your dumpster enclosures that drive out from Lot 3? Yeah. My concern would be if something occurred right there, everybody in those units and the townhomes would not have a way to exit out if we needed to evacuate them. So if we could consider right where your dog park is coming over into Lot 2, if that could possibly be another access point. I'll have to talk to Dennis about that, but that's a good point. I'm glad you clarified that. I was thinking it was exiting from Lot 2, but now that you're saying exiting from Lot 3, that makes more sense to me. And we may be able to work out, or we'll work something out there, but it may be along the lines of what we have at Great Acres, where it's emergency access only that would be available, and not readily visible that it would be operated on a casual basis, but managed. Okay, we can talk about it. Thank you. Thank you. Tony, over here. Hi. You're showing, basically filling in an area that was designated as a stormwater management area, and there's a large culvert that goes under Richland Road that's visible on the plan. You're talking about here? Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure that's a culvert. I think it operates as a culvert. I think that was a cattle connection, but I don't know. There is a stormwater management area defined on our GIS, and so we'll be needing to look at that more closely. Yeah. And the grading, like if it drops off into that low crossing, now you've got – you're building up a wall or something? Yeah, we'll have to get you more details on how that's going to operate. It's unfortunate that crossing isn't big and wide. It would be nice to have a connection underneath, but it's pretty imposing if you go down there and look in there. I wouldn't go in there, no matter how much light you had in there. Anything else from the committee? Tony? No. Thank you. All right. So the motion, or the staff recommends postponement for this plan, so the motion would be for postponement of PLN-MJDP-2542, Phelps property, with the removal of the Department of Environmental Quality's approval of environmentally sensitive areas. So moved. Second. All in favor? Anyone opposed? All right. Motion passes. So, Tony, to clarify, if you do not file a waiver, then we would want you to come back to technical committee to address all the requirements not met. If you do file a waiver, it would go on to the planning commission on September 11th, 4th and 11th. Okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. We're going to move forward to MJDP-2543, Lexington Industrial Foundation Unit 2, Lot 6, amended. To start with, I'm just going to ask real quick, if you guys have your affidavit and pictures of the signposting, we need to get that information. The proposal here is to add, let's go back real quick, this is located at 524 Buck Place. Here's the Buck Place out here in the front. We have an access easement that goes back. This is an industrial area. It's been developed for quite a while. They're coming in and they're adding additional square footage to building number 7 and revising the parking and landscaping in this. With that, requirements not met, denote all buildings, paving, signs, and fences. This is a note from building inspection. Provide dumpster enclosures and pad location specifications with waste management. Provide an open space exhibit to correspond with those in the site statistics to ensure a 10% usable area and 10% vegetated from the open space. Correct plan title to match staff report from planning. Rotate vicinity map to match plan from article 21 planning. Denote location of construction vehicle access from planning. Denote location of street cross section on plan phase from planning. Denote location of missing information in site statistics box from previous plan from planning. Correct commission certification. Submit lighting plan in compliance with article 30 of planning. Provide bicycle parking that complies with article 16, bike and ped. Provide pedestrian facilities that comply with article 16, bike and ped. At this time, you do not have any waivers. Plan considerations. Address the sanitary sewer capacity with engineering storm water analysis will be required to verify storm water requirements. This new development with the vision of engineering, does the basin still work for this increase from storm and engineering? Ensure footings are not in an easement due to proximity to storm and sanitary. Verify location of the sanitary to make sure that the easement encroachment is not needed. Then we have our typical sign offs. We have division of engineering, traffic, landscape, addressing, urban forester, department of environmental quality told me they can be removed off of this plan. Bike and ped, open space, division of fire and water, waste management, division of water quality, and then correct all note deficiencies as listed in requirements not met. With that, I'll open it to you all to see if there's any other comments or questions. Or anyone else can be removed. Cheryl, you can take addressing off. Okay. You can remove fire, Cheryl. Anyone else? If not, the applicant can speak. I'm Mike Bashik, Civil Engineering. I just have a couple comments. Our original plan was approved for 10,000 square feet. We're adding only 1,150 square feet to original approval of the development plan. Comments number two. This is I-1 zone, and it's my understanding enclosure around dumpster pad is not required. And this existing concrete pad in front of the building is bollards that we are going to utilize. And it's 18 by 10 regular concrete pad. And currently, maybe later we will move it closer to the building. But currently, our goal is to utilize existing pad. We provided exhibit for open and open space for usable and vegetated open space. But we will upload it again on the side. I mean on Excel. You just need to include the dimensions. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm over here. Okay. In the exhibit, the dimensions for the cross sections, that would be wonderful. Okay. Yes. Thank you. Yeah, we will add all this information required. The only things I have a question, provide pedestrian facility that comply with the ‑‑ we show bike racks. There's a bike racks next to the steps. We show bike racks. But I'm not sure what pedestrian facility sidewalks will be required in this case. Currently, there's no sidewalks on this side. It's just, you know, next to the building. But there's no connection so the right way to the building. So it's not clear what pedestrian facility we have to provide. So the Article 16.6c has those requirements listed for the connection? And it's not clear what we need to provide actually based on these conditions. I think in my comments, I've included those connection conditions that are in Article 16.c. If not, reach out to me and I'll get you those. Yeah. But they're very specific as to what's required there. And then the bike parking, you'll have to add that to your statistics so we know how much there is and we can verify that it's 10% of the total parking required. And there's some other locational information in 16.12 as well. Yeah, we show statistics to bike racks and show on the drawings. Okay. And then there's some location requirements for those as well as the building here. Yeah. And then, you know, they can't paint on the pedestrian walkways, things of that nature too. So just make sure those things are covered. Okay. Yeah, we will address all comments. I don't see any concern here. Any questions? Anybody have anything else? All right. The staff's recommendation is for approval. So I'll make a motion for the approval of PLN MJDP 2543 with the removal of the conditions of approval from addressing offices, approval of street names and addresses, Department of Environmental Quality's approval of environmentally sensitive areas, and the Division of Fire and Water Control Office's approval of locations of fire hydrants, fire department connections, and fire service features. So moved. Second. All in favor? All right. Okay. Moving along. We're going to group the two interstate park development plans together, and I'll present one, and then we'll go through it, and then I'll present the other, and we'll go through it, and then we'll go back to the agenda as stated. So this next one, MJDP 2544, Interstate Park Development, IVCP, 8th and South LLC, Tract 1M, Fairfield. This is located at 5354 and 5380 8th and Spoonsboro Road. The purpose of this amendment is to depict location of a proposed hotel on Tract 1M and revise lot configurations for lots 1E through 1N. This is located off 8th and Spoonsboro Road, runs along Plan North. This is I-75. This is, sorry, is it Competition Way? I'm having trouble remembering that. It comes in off of 8th and Spoonsboro. Let's see. Requirements not met. Oh, do you all have the affidavit and photos for these two? Okay. Just for everybody, don't e-mail me anything. Put it in a cellar. Okay, okay. It's lost. Okay. All right. Let's see. I want to zoom in. This is Tract 1M. It's depicting a hotel layout with associated parking. There's an entrance here. And this is Competition Way here. I'm going to go back real quick. We're talking about this lot here. Okay. Requirements not met. Group all general notes together in one list. Number two, flatten PDF attachment in Acela. And actually, for any of you that are design professionals, if you could please, before you upload your PDFs to Acela, flatten those. It makes it difficult sometimes when we've got them up on a screen and we're trying to discuss things and notes keep popping up. So if you all could please do that for us. Number three, depict interior landscape areas per the zoning ordinance, Article 18-3B-4. Number four, provide dumpster enclosure and pad specifications. Number five, dimension the driveway that conforms to engineering standard drawings. Number six, addition of project address, 181 Competition Drive. Number seven, provide bicycle parking and storage that comply with the zoning ordinance, Article 16-12. Number eight, provide internal pedestrian walkways that comply with Article 16-6. There are no waivers requested at this time or that we've identified. Under design considerations, number one, as other development plans are certified, additional information will be required to be included on subsequent plans. There's a few plans going on in conjunction or concurrently. We just want to see that information updated as plans get certified into the subsequent plans. Under plan questions or concerns, discuss necessity of second access or additional shared access. Number two, discuss height of canopy. It must be a minimum of 13 feet, 6 inches. Number three, if property is subdivided, public sewers are needed. Number four, address sanitary sewer capacity and verify pump station has capacity. Number five, describe stormwater management proposal. Staff does recommend approval with the conditions and the standard sign-offs for engineering, traffic engineering, landscaping, addressing, urban forester, department of environmental quality, bike ped, open space, fire, waste management, division of water quality sign-off, postal service, and then finally to correct all noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met. And with that, I'll open it up to the committee. I just want to say one thing about the sanitary sewer capacity. The public pump station has been upgraded somewhat. We just met with our CAP consultant last week and the new capacity availability will be in CTMs here shortly. So it's still a concern, but it's not as much of a concern as it was before. One thing that I didn't enter into the SELA, but just looking at it on the screen, I can see there will be some grading over the existing storm sewer and just make sure that you're not putting a retaining wall over the storm. You can't put a wall over it, period. But if you were going to put a wall, you'd have to relocate the storm and the easement. No signs either. I see. Is there a sign depicted there? It looks like it's right out of it, but just keep that in mind. Yeah. They don't want any footers going into the sanitary or storm sewer easement. Good morning. I'm Stephanie Blaine with Palmer Engineering here on behalf of the developer. I just wanted to discuss a couple of items on here. We're working with the architect to define the height of the canopy. The property, I know Craig spoke about it a second ago, there would be a proposed subdivision. There is already sanitary sewer in the right-of-way in front of the property that has been accepted by Division of Water Quality. So I think that we have that. We are tracking sanitary sewer capacity for each one of these lots as they come on. And so coordinating with the tap-on desk as we're going through that process. And then the stormwater management proposal, we have a regional basin system that has already been accepted by Division of Engineering for the four basins that are on this lot. The way the development is set up is that the water quantity is regional, but each site will be in charge of taking care of their own water quality requirements. So we have not determined exactly the method, but my guess is we will probably do pervious pavers very similar to the way they were done at the Starbucks. That's also on this site here. What other items did I want to discuss? I did want to discuss, I guess, a question for Scott. I know in the new updated ordinance, it talks about having the bicycle parking within 20 feet of a main entrance. With this hotel, is the only main entrance you would consider the one at the very front, or there are like an entrance from each side of the building as one of those acceptable? Yeah, I would think that where people drop in, drop off. So the idea is that they can be seen from the people that are in the building. So generally that's where people enter to check in and check out, not an adjacent entrance or exit. A lot of those aren't even accesses, right? They generally control the other access points. Like they're exit only's and things of that nature. So it would need to be on an actual entrance and preferably the main entrance, which is generally pick up and drop off, unless they had two of those or something that was a little more specific. I know the distance requirement is from, it says from the entrance. Is that like, I know in this, this sort of got like a, like a drop off area. Could the, to stay out of the pedestrian area, could it still be like directly adjacent to that and not encroaching on that? Right, right. So it's not like from the center of the door, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think there's some leeway there, which is what we were hoping to kind of leave in a very specific regulation, right? Yeah. Well, let me see if I make sure, see if I can do this. And I think just maybe just showing a dimension. Right now I had shown it all the way down here. So sort of the thought was people would, you know, come off the bike lane. They could have here and then walk to the main entrance. But I guess you were saying that you'd rather see it in directly adjacent to the, to the canopy area. Yeah, I think so. Okay, we can get that moved. We can get that moved. I just want to ensure if they're, what the 20 foot was measured from. Right. Exactly. And what the entrance would on a hotel where, you know, it's not a storage or employee entrance type thing. Right. I guess I did also want to discuss, I know that there's one of the questions, the concerns was the necessity of a secondary access or additional shared access point. The, we are showing one in our, have lined it up with the proposed access across the street for the main access. There is consideration that we have given to a future connection on this side and a plan to make the grades available for that connection. We're not currently showing that because the plans for what is going to the south of this are very much up in the area still. And so we're not wanting to commit to a specific location, but the intent is that in the future that we would line it up so that it could be connected from either one of those access aisles. Is that required now that there is cross-site connectivity between the two lots? Okay. Is it. Did I read that right? I do have a question. How many units is the hotel? Or how many? 108. 108. What would that, just for my, would that mean they would have required a second connection as far as required? If it's over a hundred or how's that? Where's that like apartment units? It's just beds, I guess. I don't know how it works. That's usually more applicable to neighborhood works. Got you. Apartments are a number of single family dwellings. Makes sense. Okay. Yeah, I guess cross-access would be important. We intend, I mean, we intend probably to have another access point to request an access point just to be up front in the future for that second lot down there. And there would, our intent is to make a connection point to that. We're just hesitant to show that because we don't have a defined point. And we see that a lot on these, like we see that on these out parcel lots, like the Gibbons property, right? The idea is, as well, you're here first. You kind of get to establish where that is because we have to have the pedestrian connections as well. So the idea is, is that people can move between the sites if there's a, you know, quickie mart or whatever next to it, that they don't have to go out and come around. And so we want those pet connections as well. So we need to totally understand. So we at least need to show a pet connection coming across. Right. I get that that's complicated, but like, you know, the adjacent property, we're going to have to build, you know, like is it into a parking spot or does it, how do you mitigate that? And so it gets a little complicated. So we're showing a sidewalk sort of ending here. So maybe show it crosswalk and then a sidewalk to the property boundary. I think that would probably help. And then I don't know, is there a actual like stuff on a lot of the other outlets that we've had this on? There's an actual pavement stuff. And I know that hems you into a location, but they can't, you know, because then the adjacent property, I can't build on their property. Right. I mean, it does become a, I guess, or whatever, but you are in first. And so I know that can adversely impact the layout of the adjacent site. But in a way, how do we get what we're looking for in the long term if we don't do that? So that's my question. I don't know. I guess I'll need to go back and look and see in the code if there's like a specific requirement to have that connection. I know that there is for pedestrians. Right. I'm not sure in terms of the traffic access, since that would have to go through there. Yeah. So I need to go back and look at them. And we'll check to know if that's the case or not. I guess I had one question on the landscape interior landscaping areas. Not sure who's I guess that was planning comment. Do you all want that shown on this plan? It says it was planning to pick interior landscaping areas. Number three and requirements not met. Is that something that we need to show on this plan or could that just be shown on the open space exhibit? I guess we just have a lot. If we do that for every parcel, we're going to end up with a lot of areas shown. I think that was maybe you exceeded the 90 feet. I think that's what that was. Maybe a long competition with the parking spaces. You can't have more than 90 feet without providing an interior landscaping. I'll double check that and make sure that we're not exceeding that. Okay. It might be this one. I might need to shift this island here. It's probably not in the correct location potentially. Yeah, I think maybe it was that front. I don't know. Just check those. I just wanted to make sure I addressed that appropriately. It wouldn't be on the open space exhibit because interior landscaping cannot count. Yeah, I just was wondering how we needed to show that. Okay. Okay. Just to clarify, in the B3, which is what this one is, there is a requirement. Connection standards. Primary internal drive aisles should connect to established internal drive aisles. Well, excuse me, that's established. For projects with two or more buildings, internal vehicular and pedestrian walkways shall be provided between vehicular use areas. I'm not sure if that's per parcel. Okay. All right. Well, there might still be some clarification. Yeah, it's B5P. Oh, this parcel is – I need to change that. That's probably wrong. That side of the screen is B5P. Sorry. These standards apply to all zones, the P1, B1, B3, all the business zones. Okay. I'll get with you, David, and we can talk through that. I guess I don't – Josh, did you have anything else? Or just the zoning. Does anybody else have any questions for me on this one? All right. Everybody good? Stephanie, you're good? I guess one other thing, I do understand the requirement that we've – I know we've got this plan, the one we're getting ready to talk about, and the Taco Bell all out there. So we understand the request that once the first one is approved, that that would need to show up on any further plans. And actually, it's once it's certified. Certified, sorry. Yes, certification. So since the Taco Bell that was a couple months ago hasn't been certified, that's why we're not showing this. Thanks. Okay, good. Yeah. Okay. So staff recommends approval. So the motion for approval for PLN MJDP 2544. And there weren't any changes, right? Okay. So moved. All in favor? Anyone opposed? All right. Okay. We'll move on. The next one is MJDP 2547, Interstate Park Development, IVCP Athens South LLC, Track 1K Retail. So our previous plan was this lot here along competition. This one is to the north. The purpose of this amendment is to depict the location of a proposed retail center and revise lot configurations for lots 1A through 1N. So this one depicts what appears to be a three-unit retail center with associated two drive-throughs on either end unit. And it is showing access coming in off of the lot to the north, which comes in off of competition. Under the requirements not met, number one, addition of access easement cross-section and dimension. Number two, depict location of order point to determine adequate stacking. Number three, all interior pedestrian walkways shall meet the requirements of the zoning ordinance article 16-6. Number four, provide dumpster enclosure and pad specifications and depict no parking signage and striping to the left side of the enclosure. Group all general notes together in one list. And, again, flatten the PDF attachment in a cellar. Number seven, depict interior landscape areas. I believe this is the same thing. Yep. Number eight, denote correct commission certification if requesting a waiver. Number nine, provide lighting plan in conformance with the zoning ordinance article 30. I have to go back and look what that was about. I'll stop them. Okay. We can talk about that. Number 10, depict vehicle connection through tract 1J to 1I and include tract 1J in amendment area. Number 11, include open space requirements in the site statistics as a percentage. And at this time, we're not identifying any waivers or have been requested. Under design considerations, number one, as other development plans are certified, additional information will be required to be included on subsequent plans. Number two, review all Acela comments and design considerations provided by the division of engineering. Number three, discuss how open space requirements are being met. Note that required vehicular use area interior landscaping is not included in vegetated areas. For usable open space, please note zoning ordinance article 1-11. Under plan questions or concerns, number one, discuss who is responsible for construction of access easement depicted on tract 1J. Number two, primary internal drives shall connect to established internal drives on adjacent properties to create cross access and through connections. Number three, temporary address must be displayed during all phases of construction. Number four, is a sanitary sewer tap available for each lot? Discuss sanitary sewer capacity. Number five, address sanitary sewer capacity and verify pump station has capacity. Number six, discuss proposal for stormwater management. And then under the standard sign-offs, we have engineering, traffic engineering, landscaping, addressing, urban forester, environmental quality, bike pit, open space, division of fire, division of waste management, documentation of the capacity assurance program, U.S. Postal Service sign-off, and then finally correct all noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met. And with that, I'll turn it over to the committee. Anybody have questions? Okay. Hello again. We put these in order. Thank you for putting us together. I guess to start, Scott, we are showing the, I thought there was comments on Excella regarding, let me pull up, I printed them off. About one for every, I guess, do we want them included in the table? Because we had a note on the plan denoting how many bicycle spaces there were. So I was a little bit confused. I guess I didn't ask that about the other one either, but both of those, we had, they were one for every 10 shown, I guess. And there was about the location. This one was within 20 feet of the door. So I was wondering exactly what you were wanting to see different on these. I guess on these larger sites, it gets a little complicated in the site statistics, right? Because they're showing, so the site statistics will be for the entire. Well, we haven't broken down. Are you breaking it down? We haven't broken it down for each one of the lots, and it's listed in the table the number of bike spaces and parking spaces. Then that's probably fine. I just need to look at that. I don't know if I just didn't notice it or didn't see it. Yeah, it's a little, I mean, the text is small because there's a lot of lots. Yeah, this one gets complicated. So you might need your magnifying glass to be able to read it. But we went ahead and put all the lots on there just because we thought it was easier for record keeping as things are being updated, that those could be updated. So we went ahead and put all the lots we intended to create on there, or that are shown on this current plan. That should be fine. Okay. In terms of the location, I guess is there a concern with the location for the bike racks that's currently being shown? So without knowing where the sidewalks are, that appears to be in conflict with the pedestrian circulation. So we need to just know how, what that actually looks like. And will they hang out into the drive through? You need about 80 inches for a bike rack from front to back. And then it's placed kind of in there. I guess we had proposed, and we can look at a different, look at this again. We had proposed the connection that came across here as a connection to the right-of-way. But I guess hearing your concerns on the other ones, we need to connect to the north as well, probably. Yeah, you'll have to have an access off of that other entrance. That's required from the access. Like there's a requirement. And then you'll have to address where that crosses. So you may, you know, because you've got a larger than a 24 foot access there. So there's requirements around that as well. If they're crossing two drive aisles in a drive-through lane. I think there's a new drive-through lane. I don't know the exact rule, but I saw that in there. So just depending on where you do it, there'll be some different requirements. So if you have questions, let us know. Okay. I guess the other one I want to talk to David about the traffic. I know we've seen the lot to the Taco Bell to the north that showed sort of the curb cut for there. Is that something that you just want to see this road connecting that? Is that a requirement that we need to see the show that road connecting the two? Yeah. And then I guess who will be responsible for it or how is that going to work once, like during construction because it's off this lot and things like that. I guess as far as the development plan, does that have to be with that connection between those two have to be constructed with one of the lots or just shown? So when that lot gets... Also the Taco Bell has its own access. Right. And then a connection to the south. Whereas this lot only has that connection. So you need to include that lot as part of your development plan because you're going to be building on it. Okay. So we don't necessarily have to connect to the north to Taco Bell. Basically our tip was to show it's to build this now because we, again, don't know what's going on this other lot, but at least we showed the access. It'll guarantee that that access has to be maintained is the concern of staff. Show the through access and you can denote that the rest of 1J or whatever, is that 1J? Yeah. Would be constructed at the time, you know. The next lot. Yeah. The construction of 1J. Right. Okay. Rather than showing that radius inward, you would basically just have a stub to the right and then not build whatever you don't need until you need it. You have any concerns with that, Josh? Okay. Yeah. I know they're hoping that one's going to be, well, something else there. They're hoping that that's coming quickly behind us. So hopefully it won't be like that. We don't need two Taco Bells beside each other. I thought you were hoping the Taco Bell would be quick. Oh, yeah, I don't think so. I guess the other one I want to talk about, I think may have been David's comments as well, in terms of the drive-through, the order points. Just to pick them. Okay. I guess is there concern about the two drive-throughs? There's nothing in the zoning ordinance that prohibits it. Okay. How about that? I think we generally don't encourage the stacking to be behind parking spaces because that creates conflicts with the customers that are going into the buildings. But, as David said, there's nothing in the ordinance that prohibits that currently. There is a draft in committee that would say. Okay. So that hasn't passed yet? No. I must have found that and thought it was. It also reduces the stacking requirements for almost all uses, too, though. So it's like, you know, it alleviates on the one end. You wouldn't necessarily have to show six vehicles either. So I guess based off of the way our intent for the order points were sort of where the stacking is shown starting now. Based on that, there wouldn't be a need to file a waiver based on the current ordinance that's in place. Great. I must have gotten a copy of the newer one. There was a draft that came out of the planning commission, but the council put it into a committee. So they want to study drive-throughs. So we're going to help them do that, I guess. Josh, I think I know what's on the lighting plan issue. I had seen some deficiencies that we couldn't quite get worked all the way out. And if we can't get that worked out by Friday, I'll make sure we submit a waiver for that. I know one of the issues, I believe it was this one, was showing that they were 4,000 Kelvin lights to match the soccer stadium. They can't do that. Yeah. Yeah. Noted. Any other questions? Open space? I'll get that cleaned up. I know. Yeah. And you show usable open space along Competition Drive. And if you wish to use that as usable open space, you just need to show access or a crosswalk from the building to that road. Okay. I should. There is a sidewalk there, basically, that comes across here and then comes across here. We probably just need to show the actual crosswalk in the paving area. Yes. In the exhibit. Thank you. Yeah. Yes. I mentioned in my notes here, the face of the dumpster, the left-hand side of it would either need to be striped off, no parking, or preferably like a median, something put in there. Yeah. So I guess we are anticipating putting a median. This is on this side right here, that there would be a median directly adjacent to it. Okay. Is that a? Huh? Yeah. It's not a spot. It's a raised median. Okay. We're assessing internally, which they may request going to a double dumpster, which I know would impact shifting down parking. We still have a spot right next to it that would not be allowed for parking. Okay. So currently, it's a single dumpster. It's currently a single. Internally, we're assessing the potential needs for the building and don't want to end up with a situation where they don't have enough storage. So trying to talk with the users about what they need. Okay. All right. Thanks. Anything else for us? Everybody good? So, Craig, on this one, the same issue of the sanitary sewer capacity, the pump station covers this as well. Yes. We're good. Okay. All right. So staff recommends approval. So I'll make a motion for the approval of PLN MJDP 2547. So moved. Second. All in favor? Opposed? All right. We're moving forward. We're moving backwards. Let's say we're moving backwards. We're going to go to MJDP 2546. This is Ingleside Apartments. The stretch, which is an amendment. They are proposing a maintenance building and to reconfigure the pool area. This is the pool area up at the top of the plan. Up in here. There we go. And then they're adding a maintenance building in this area down here. There's the modified pool. Oops. We didn't get. Huh? Maintenance. Yeah. Yeah. Maintenance building over here. Requirements not met. Recommendation. Add additional features to the proposal. The ad hoc plan to adjust the size, the depth of the parking spots along new fence line to a minimum of 15, five. Remove either the stop bar or stop sign at the entrance to the property. Depict all existing and proposed easements. Correct plan title to match staff report. Additional total column for the site statistics box. Correct commission certification. Provide open space exhibit that includes location and area calculations and include open space requirements in the site statistics as a percentage. At this current time, we have no waivers. Design considerations. Any fencing that goes through the sanitary storm, sanitary or storm easement will need an encroachment. Sinkhole is shown on the property near 1200 Unity Drive. Plan questions and concerns. Is the fence termination point at the end of the existing sidewalk as it approaches the common area? Up north. To the left of where the pool is. To the left. If you go up to the left, they're showing a new fence there. Left. Down. Right there. Up. There. Yeah. I think that's a new fence, I believe. Okay. Yeah. So that was my question. Yeah. Movement through there. Correct. Yeah. And that's also where there's existing parking spaces, and adding wheel stops, and that's why the 15 and a half, you would have to just mark them compact, and you could basically be fine with it. Discuss addition of crosswalks for traffic. Is this part of it? No, this is different. I think they currently have stop signs at each aisle, end of each aisle. You wouldn't need stop bars and the stop legend if you have a stop. You just need either or. So you can take it off if you already have a stop sign. You don't need it. Will the existing dumpster enclosures be affected by this plan? Will service trucks be able to use the same traffic flow to enter and exit the property with the new fencing? Any fencing that goes through a sanitary or storm sewer will need an encroachment. Discuss tree protection areas that do not match the previous plan. Is maintenance building being constructed on a sidewalk? Relocate sidewalk around proposed building. Then the staff conditions, the division of engineering, traffic, landscape, addressing, urban forester, Department of Environmental Quality, bike and ped, open space, fire, waste management, division water quality. I believe the U.S. Postal Service can be removed, because this is an existing apartment complex. And then correct all note deficiencies listed as requirements not met. With that, I'm open it to the committee to see if anybody else can be removed from the plan. I have a, I need to add something to requirements not met. So the access, the emergency access on the east side of the property has a sidewalk connection out, but has a fence across it. And they're required to connect to that public right-of-way. So you can't block that pedestrian access that needs to be removed. So that might just be a note or something so that when their occupancy permit comes in, they know that that needs to be checked out. Yes, that's similar to what David mentioned from traffic engineering on the, near the main entrance, but you're saying it's also, it also applies on the emergency. Yes. Because that's the connection to an adjacent public right-of-way. So I guess that would be under requirements not met right now. Cheryl, I also need to add to a note to requirements not met. The access point over on the Devonshire Avenue, that's currently has a gate across it and it's locked. That needs to be an open access point. They exceed the number of access points based on the units that they have there. Right now they're only showing one access point in there, approximately a hundred and, a hundred plus units. So therefore they need to. Okay. So that needs to be an open access and not gated. Right. Okay. So can we just make that one condition or does it need to be broken into two? Cause that's the same. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. And what's the name of that street? Devonshire. Devonshire Avenue. Okay. Anybody else have any comments or questions? Cheryl, I think you can remove addressing. Okay. Okay. Applicant. Do you have any other comments? Scott, you want to say anything? Sorry. I thought you were talking to me. We call him Southall. Mr. Southall. Well, yeah. In this condition, Mr. Southall. Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Scott Southall, Earth Cycle Design. I think we're good on all the items. I just want to make the note that this is an existing plan. It's an existing facility. That gate there has been up for I don't know how long. So in the same with the gate that goes across the sidewalk. So I can bring it to the attention of the owner that that needs to get removed. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. And same for people like myself. I think we're good on all the items. I just want to make the note that this is an existing plan. It's an existing facility. It has been up for I don't know how long. So in the same with the gate that goes across the sidewalk. So I can bring it to the attention of the owner that that needs to get revised. Excuse me. To click to open type of facility. No, it needs to be an open access point at this point. The gate needs to come down, and the lock needs to come off. And same for people like myself. I think we're good on all the items. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And same for pedestrian connection. It can't be kated. Needs to be an access point. Okay, but in the future, could they put a control? No, not at this point. It needs to be an open access point, not just an emergency access. Okay. All right. Well, I'll discuss that with the owner. And then the only other item that I saw was being able to get all the bicycle facilities updated to, we may have to, the only place I see Scott right now is probably eliminating some parking spaces to accommodate that. For multifamily stuff, there's a requirement 50% are covered. So if you have breezeways or locations where you can do that, you can do it that way or you can do it wherever, but it is a requirement of the ordinance. Okay. And it's very specific as to for these types of developments, what some parameters for what that needs to look like. I mean, I understand new, but I'm trying to retrofit. So right. Right. Well, unfortunately, there's not a lot of leeway because it's written as it's written. So we have to, we have to get to that point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We can work. Okay. Regarding open space, I was curious if it would be possible to add some type of formal access or sidewalk to the dog park. And I'm not sure if this was mentioned, I stepped out earlier, but right now currently it looks like there's just parking and then a series of landscaping and planting and there's no formal access to the dog park for residents. So if you're accounting that as your open space, we would love to see a formalized pathway to get there. It's make sure I hit the right button. It's right there. Correct? Yes. Yeah. And I know the purpose is just to add a shed, but since we're here and we're discussing this, I thought I was bringing it up. We'll work with you to try to find a path. Let me go back to my statement in reference to the second access point. If it's going to be an automated gate, it is acceptable to have a click-to-enter. So if you're going to put in an automated gate there for the access over onto Devonshire, we'll accept a click-to-enter. Right. And that would be also the future condition on the main entrance as well, is they would look to have a click-to-open for both of them. Right. So you do plan on making that an automated gate there? Yeah. That was on the plan as noted, but we can make that a note on the secondary entrance onto Devonshire too. Yes. Both will be required for click-to-enter. But the pit access has to be open. There's no point in building a sidewalk if you're going to build a fence over the top of it. Right. With no gate. Well, that's what I'm saying. A gate would be there too. But it's not now. Right. I understand the existing conditions is not... So if you're removing that fencing, the fence needs to be pulled back to allow for the sidewalk movement to have connection. But in future, we could have click-to-enter on the gate or some kind of code access on the gate and for pedestrians as well as the code access on the drive. So I guess the future operative word is that saying like, if we ever get to that, if we ever amend that area, we'll put a gate in that's not locked. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think that's the intent at this point. No. If you're going to do a click-to-enter at the front, then you'd be upgrading the back. Is the previous development plan, does it say locked gate on it? Because I doubt it. It probably says some sort of fire access gate on the previous plan. I don't know. I don't know. We have to look at that. But go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead. I'm done. No, just to clarify, I'm not sure what your future plans are, but that access point either needs to be open, non-gated, or it needs to be click-to-enter. Correct. As a part of this development plan, not in the future. That's a condition of the approval and occupancy of the new stuff. Right? That's, yeah. I would imagine. Fire is probably the occupancy part. Like, yes. My issue is your number of units versus the number of access points you have. You're not meeting that as is right now. So we need you to either make it an open access or remove the fence. Yeah. I'm sorry. Or put in an automated gate with click-to-enter. Yeah. And I'm not sure if you can gate that sidewalk. I think you have to allow the access to be compliant for ADA. It needs to be access to public right-of-way. So I don't think you can block that. I'll bring it to the attention of the owner. Yeah. The new owners, by the way, they recently purchased. And is the maintenance building on top of a sidewalk? There's... We'll add a sidewalk to route around. Okay. Because right now, it just, like, stubs into the building. And if there's a door there, okay. But my assumption is that people were walking in that area before. We'll route. We'll add a sidewalk to route around. Oh, yeah. There's a whole... People jump at it. I mean, it's clearly used. It's just... Understand. Yeah. Okay. Anybody else have anything? Scott, are you good? Or Mr. Southall? Yep. Okay. Yes. Very good. Yeah. All right. So let's see. Staff recommends approval. Motion to approve. I'll make a motion to approve PLN-MJDP-2546 with the removal of Addressing Office's approval of street names and addresses and the United States Postal Service Office's approval of kiosk locations or easements. So moved. Well, can we make sure that the requirements that are met do include ensuring that all the pedestrian accesses are not blocked and the division of fires requirement related to click eight. Yes. Thank you. Yes. So moved. Second. All in favor? Anyone opposed? All right. Thank you. Okay. Moving along to the next plan. This is MJDP-2549 Patchen Wilkes Unit 2, Lot 8, located at 1811 Winchester Road. The purpose of this plan is to depict development of a Kroger Marketplace and automobile fuel station on Lot 8. So we recently looked at the preliminary development plan for this. This is Winchester Road to the bottom of the plan. This is moving all over the place. The preliminary plan showed outlots along Winchester Road and then Lot 9 with multifamily. We're just focused on Lot 8 with the Kroger Marketplace and the fuel station. At this time, fuel stations in this area, the Kroger Marketplace and associated parking. Under the requirements not met, number one, provide dumpster enclosure and pad specifications for behind the grocery store and at the fuel station. Number two, clarify street names. Number three, remove note 12. Sidewalk location should not be conceptual at this stage. Number four, depict internal pedestrian walkways that comply with the zoning article-16-6. Number five, denote site totals in the site statistics. Number six, dimension all driveways and walkways. Number seven, depict all existing and proposed easements. Number eight, correct note number four for the zoning ordinance article-21-6B1. Number nine, denote crosswalks shall be raised where they exceed the 24-foot maximum. Number 10, correct location of external bike racks. Number 11, provide internal walkways that comply with the zoning ordinance article-16-6. Number 12, provide open space exhibit that corresponds to those specified in the site statistics and include open space requirements in the site statistics as a percentage. Number 13, list VUA tree canopy provided. There are no waivers requested at this time. Under design considerations, number one, review all Acela comments and design considerations provided by the Division of Engineering. Number two, at grade entrance should be reserved for an access easement or private street. Under plan questions or concerns, number one, clarify whether there will be a dumpster or compactor behind the grocery store. Number two, discuss which portions of Thunder Stick Drive and Charleston Drive will be built as part of this plan. Number three, discuss timing of infrastructure construction. Number four, is a sanitary sewer tap available for each lot? Number five, address sanitary sewer capacity. Number six, how will the existing sanitary sewer system be accessed for the proposed development? Number seven, what is the proposal for stormwater management? Where will the proposed discharge to or connect to a public system or drainage easement? Are there additional easements going to be required to make the connection? Number eight, will easements be needed for pass-through drainage? Number nine, discuss who will own and maintain the stormwater management areas or storm sewer system. Number 10, discuss access to the frontage road. And then the standard sign-offs, engineering, traffic engineering, landscaping, addressing, urban forester, environmental quality, bike ped, open space, division of fire, division of waste management, documentation of the capacity assurance program, U.S. Postal Service, and then correct all noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met herein. So, committee, comments or questions? In addition to those. On your item 13 there, that's actually the landscape examiner, not urban forester. On the requirements not met. And then on requirements not met number 11, I cited the wrong article. It's 16.6A3 and the wrong zone. So we can delete 11 because I think four covers that. Yeah. Oh, yeah, so just delete node 11. Okay, so I'll have to delete. Anything else? All right. Rory Kaley, quick general question. Yeah, new process. Requirements not met, that whole list. Is everything that appears on there a waverable item as I go forward and talk to clients and such? Some of, not knowing exactly what all of them are off the top of my head, it could be a variance. Okay. So if it's a dimension. Okay. That was just it, how I have to address all those when we go through it. All right. Where do you want to start? Compactor at the grocery store and behind, we'll label that instead of just dumpster. Construction plans for Thunderstick and Charleston. Plans for engineering. No, we're waiting on just them to turn everybody loose. Sewer taps, no, not until we get construction plans in. Sewer capacity, I think Craig says is out there. We just got to apply for it. Oh, six, seven, eight. Looks like most of those and the easements, we won't know until we have construction plans approved and all the easements appear on the plats. And then I don't know what number 10, what would we like to discuss? The zoning ordinance limits access to frontage roads to two access points per lot. And if this is all lot eight, you have four access points to your frontage road. So that could be a waiver. Okay. Okay. Anybody have any questions? Scott? Yeah, just a quick question. You know the ordeal at the enclosure over on Newtown Springs, I don't know if it's going to be doing these, but we need to make sure we get the correct dumpster enclosure built this time. They did admit that it was their mistake, but moving forward, now they're having to have a dumpster with casters on it serviced by a private company because our trucks won't get in there to get it through small. Okay. FYI. Thanks. Anybody else? Rory? Yeah. All right. Staff recommends approval. So motion to approve peeling in JDB JDP 2549 with the removal of note 11 under requirements not met. So moved. All in favor. Anyone opposed. All right. Motion passes. Okay. Next on the agenda in JDP 2552 Gainesville mall shopping center, southeastern hills subdivision unit three located at 1163 and 1165 center Parkway. The purpose of this plan is to depict parking and circulation for a new multi-tenant retail building. Excuse me. Center Parkway is down here at the bottom of the plan. There's the existing site and what they're proposing is a new multi-tenant retail. Down along center Parkway. The. This is showing the building here with a what looks like a one way drive lane behind it and associated parking. The requirements not met. Number one, to note address for new structure, 1189 center Parkway. Number two, provide sidewalk for all adjacent rights of way to the building entrance that meet the zoning ordinance. Article 16 six. Number three, reorient building to front, either happy in way or center Parkway. Appian way is to the plan, right? Number four, she'll not be in the front yard for corner lots per the zoning ordinance. Article 16 six a number five revised dumpster enclosure detail to include include gate retainers, drop rods along with drilled holes and one additional bollard. Number six denote structures built in areas of alluvial soils will have a foundation and footer detail prepared by a licensed professional engineer. Prior to issues of the building permit. Number seven, provide internal pedestrian walkways that comply with the zoning ordinance. Article 16 six. Number eight, provide bicycle facilities that comply with the zoning ordinance. Article 16 12. Number nine, provide open space exhibit that complies with the zoning ordinance. Article 20 include and include open space requirements in the site statistics as a percentage. Number 10, provide crosswalk or sidewalk to the park per zoning ordinance. Article 20 dash five. Number 11, submit tree protection plan that complies with the zoning ordinance and denote tree protection areas per article 2062. There are no waivers requested at this time. No design considerations at this time. Under plan questions and concerns. Number one, identify box depicted along driveway at the rear of the building. We were wondering what what this what this is. Number two, discuss drive all around building only 16 feet wide. Number three, please revise note number four to include include public streets. Number four is an access easement needed to allow this parcel to use the existing driveway. Number five is a sanitary sewer tap available for each proposed lot. If subdivided public sewers are needed. Number six, it isn't clear where the new lot lines will be and easement for the proposed service connection may be required. Number seven, what is the proposal for stormwater management? Number eight, where is the stormwater management facility for this area? Number nine, verify that stormwater management requirements for quantity and quality are being met. Number 10, who owns and maintains the existing stormwater system? Number 11, consider if easements are required. Number 12 is a commercial maintenance agreement and organized commercial development group to share responsibility for the driveway and the existing storm system planned. And then the standard sign offs, engineering, traffic, engineering, landscape examiner, addressing, urban forester, Department of Environmental Quality, bike ped, open space, Division of Fire, Division of Waste Management, documentation capacity, assurance program, approval, postal service, and correct all noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met herein. And with that, I'll open it up to the committee and. The purpose note on the DP says you're creating a lot. So that's why my comments kind of are geared towards if this is subdivided out instead of one owner for both buildings. Anything else for me? Good morning. This is Jihad Halani with Vision Engineering. So basically this project is an existing parking lot. So we are going to remove the pavement and insert this building. So that's basically where it's located. So from topography point of view, Central Parkway is like almost 14 feet higher than the parking lot the way it is. Appian Way, the same circumstances, is kind of higher elevation. So orienting the building and having the front along either Central Parkway or Appian Way is going to be like somebody looking into an embankment fronting the roadway. So I don't know how we can approach it in order to kind of make it look an appealing entrance. Like say you have a two roadway and then parking lot sitting way below them. So that's why we can orient the building in that direction. So the lot is going to be subdivided. It's going to be transferred to a new owner. And the final record plan needs to be submitted as a subdivision plan in that regard. So we can provide... The reason we have a sidewalk from the main entrance into the building and the reason we don't have a sidewalk into Appian Way is because of topography change. But we can add the sidewalk through the parking lot. So we can revise the dumpster to meet the requirement. So as I mentioned, it's only basically we are subdividing this lot. So I guess we have to rework. Assuming... That's a question. Assuming we have to add the sidewalk. Are we talking about having sidewalk in the middle of the parking lot or along the street? Because there is sidewalk along Appian Way and there is sidewalk along the main entrance that cannot lead to the main building. So this lot needs to connect to the adjacent public rights-of-ways with pedestrian connections. Yes, sir. Per that zoning article. Correct. So we are adding a sidewalk in that location that connects. Maybe we need to depict it better. To Center Parkway and to Appian. Directly. Not through and around, but directly. It's pretty specific about that. So I would just familiarize yourself with that and make sure that it meets those requirements. Does that make sense? And if you have questions, let me know. No, I understand what you are saying. But you can see how much there is drop in elevation. It's written as it's written. So you have to read what those requirements are and meet those requirements. Okay. My follow-up question. Can it be steps? It needs to be accessible and that's addressed in the article as to what the connectivity standards are. Is this something we can waive, Tracy? In addition to that, if you want to count the park as your open space, you'll need access on Appian Way or through the parking lot to the park directly. Yes, ma'am. And I'm not sure if that's waivable. We can look into the access through the parking lot, but also there's access from here into the main center parkway and the main entrance to the shopping centers that kind of run along the front. If we go to the other drawing, it can show how the connectivity to Gaines Way Park next to it. Sure. Just in your open space exhibit, show that access on that. Yes, ma'am. Just out of curiosity, what is that little box that runs along where the 30-foot building line note is? Like right above it, there's a box that kind of is parallel with the road. See that? Yeah, right there. You're right on it. Up a little bit. Down a little bit. Right there. That box. Offset from your curb. Yeah, it's like a little strip. Almost looks like a sidewalk. There's a sidewalk behind the building. This is kind of a grass area or something like that. Probably wouldn't need it if there's nowhere to go. Well, it doesn't connect to anything. It's just if it's a sidewalk, where does it go to and from? Well, maybe we need to add the doors. Yeah, if you've got something where you can show its usability, then that's fine. Then that would need to connect back in. It looks like your building's corner is right adjacent to your... So you have to meet those dimensional requirements for that to connect into the rest of your pedestrian infrastructure. Okay. Or if there's nothing at the rear of the building, there's nowhere to enter or exit, you could always just remove it too. Right, unless you're using it for your other access out to those other... You also would need a waiver of the no VUA in the front yard because this is a corner lot. And you're showing a drive-all all the way around. So, so far we need to have two waiver, the one for the sidewalk. Waiver request, yeah, correct. Okay. So provide bicycle facility, we can add it. Open space, we just discussed the exhibit. Crosswalk, we talked about the crosswalk. And also on the trees, we'll provide the tree canopy. But basically, that's the only tree along the front of the property, which is most of them that are kind of at the edge of the right-of-way. They are on the project site, but they are located here. We're trying to protect them, but we'll provide an exhibit and reflect that. Yes, for fire protection, I'm assuming this has to be 18 feet, so we'll revise it to 18 feet or 16 is okay? I know I had 16, but if you show me auto turn with our 47-foot tower truck, I'll stay with 16. Okay. Thank you, sir. I got a quick question. Where is the location of the dumpster going to be at? Is it going to be back in that back corner where the structure is right there? That's the location we're proposing to. Okay. That's going to need to be, like, shown on the plan as far as how we're going to nose in and get on and so forth. Correct. Yes, sir. Is access needed? Yes. I guess we have to provide. We are hoping that we can do it as part of the final record plan and show all the parking and access easement to all the different buildings. Sanitary sewer tap available? It's not available, so the sanitary sewer is basically not available. All the different buildings. Sanitary sewer tap available? It's not available, so the sanitary sewer is basically the closest sanitary line is here, so we have to get an easement from the property owner and then get it to the property here. So it's not clear where the lot line. So the property, basically, this is where the lot line was depicted better, and then we can also submit a subdivision plan. Proposed stormwater management, I guess this used to be asphalt, so we are replacing parking lot with some building, and then we are adding a little bit of landscaping, so I'm assuming we can provide an exhibit that the stormwater and pervious area is going to get reduced. And the way it's drained, it's kind of drained toward, I guess, toward the Gainesway Park where there's a large pond, and this is something we can provide at the construction plan levels. And if there's any other question, we'll be glad to answer it. So, Jihad, is this a final development plan? That's how you filed it, but you keep talking about a subdivision. So is it a preliminary subdivision plan, too? No, it's going to be final. You're not building any public infrastructure? We're not building any public infrastructure, but it's a final development plan, but we're going to do subdivision to create the lot itself. So you will do a separate plot? Correct. It's not a preliminary subdivision plan. It's a final development plan. Let's make sure that we're signing the right regulations in our efforts, because there's different ones that apply to subdivides. Tracy's mentioned this a few times, but if you are going to request a waiver, it's due by Friday. And if you want to be heard next Thursday, it's due by Friday. Including your mail notice. Yes, ma'am. Okay. So any other questions? Okay, so I do have one question. So do I need to say something about waivers, or is that? I guess it would be helpful for us to know if you intend to file a waiver of those requirements. Correct. You do? Yes, ma'am. Okay. So then we would refer it to the planning commission to address the waivers. Okay. So do I in the motion do anything? Otherwise the option is correct all these things, and then you don't go to the planning commission. Well, I mean, if the lot line is going to stay the same, which is we have to have a waiver for the sidewalk. We cannot make it ADA requirement. There's 10, 12 feet difference in 30, 40 feet. You can make it ADA compliant. You can build a ramp. And I mean, there's ways to make that ADA compliant. So it's not that you can't do it. You want to do stairs. Instead of that, you can't do that. So the waiver would be to not do it. It's not that it can't be done, right? I mean, just making that clear to you that that's not a, the railroad request is to remove that. But it can be done. I understand. We can discuss it. Don't want to take people's time, but there's a limited distance. And there's a limited height. You can't do so much in that distance and that height. We can discuss it. Don't want to take people's time. Yeah. So if you've expressed your intention to ask for waivers, I would suggest the committee recommend to the Subdivision and Planning Commission just a referral to them to address those. Thank you. All right. And so that was the only thing, right? No other additions or removals? OK. All right. So the motion, I guess the staff recommended approval at this time, right? We don't need to say anything about, OK. So the motion is for approval of PLN MGA DP 2552 with the addition of the referral to the Planning Commission Subdivision Committee to review the waiver request. So moved. Second. All in favor? Anyone opposed? All right. Morning, everyone. Daniel Crum, Planning Staff. First time caller, longtime listener. Moving on to development plans associated with our zone changes, we've got NJDP 2550. So this is the Cane Break subdivision. This is a host of lots located on Cane Break Drive that are associated with a zone change request from agricultural rural to light industrial I-1, as well as a median density residential R4 zone. So here we have the proposal, Cane Break Drive kind of cutting through here, headed towards Athens-Boonesboro Road to the plan south here. We've got the interstate located down there. We've got a host of different conditions here. So the first, I'm going through the requirements that are not met. We're talking through providing direct pedestrian connections to all buildings of the street. That's courtesy of traffic engineering. When we were talking about the Cane Break Drive cross sections, updating that to reflect the urban growth master plan. So this entire rezoning is located within the areas that were brought in within the updated master plan. So those cross sections and the contents of that need to be in agreement. With the respect to the master plan as well, the intersection of Cane Break Drive and the new street. So we do have one roundabout shown here conceptually, but this intersection as well needs to have that treatment as per traffic engineering. Once again, making sure that our internal walkways comply with Article 16 CE2. That relates to our light industrial flex space areas. With respect to environmental services, there's a condition to address and label the blue line stream on the property. That'll come up a little bit later with some of the comments from engineering and planning staff as well. We have several notes on comments or conditions 6, 7, and 8. So denoting the structures built in the alluvial soils as per the requirements of environmental services. A steep slope note, courtesy of environmental services as well. And then our standard note relating to the final development plan and not issuing building permits needs to be denoted as well. There are a couple of different buffers that need to be provided with this request. So a 15-foot landscape buffer between the I-1 zone and the adjacent B-5P zones. So I believe that those are going to be located down here in this area. The proposed residential portion is generally in this area and then three pockets of the I-1. So there's required buffers when they adjoin the I-1 zones. Some of the comments from planning side of things was just dimensioning access points, driveways, parking spaces, kind of the standard comments for that. We wanted on comment 11 to clarify the residential unit count. Down in the site statistics box, it splits up. There's a category for units. But there also is a category for the provided number of beds. It looks like that's also being units as well. So just cleaning that up and clarifying what the total number of units are between the proposed duplex, single-family, and multifamily uses in total there. The R-4 zoning requirements, those actually vary based on the housing type being provided. So it's different standards based on whether it's single-family residential as in these portions versus here as well. So the R-4 requirements just need to be broken down based on kind of the respective use because they do differ as far as their setbacks. Depict the 100-foot rural service area setback. So where these project areas adjoin land outside the urban services boundary that is zoned agriculturally. So to the north and sort of, or I guess, plan north, plan west here. A 100-foot setback or buffer area needs to be provided. There are specific rules of what can and can't be shown in there. It has impacts on how far this connection road here can be stubbed into that area. So those will need to be addressed and updated. Those are a part of the urban growth master plan's requirements. Depict the group residential project yard. So it looks like portions of the areas that contain the multifamily do have that shown, but it doesn't look like it's labeled along kind of the fronts of the property there. So just making sure that that is carried through the entirety of the property. Depict all existing and proposed easements and as well as the required vegetative buffer that relates to that. Once again, we've got the stream, the associated floodplain areas that fall through this as well. There's associated vegetative buffers that are required. Condition 17 relates providing the required open space exhibit to the satisfaction of staff there, as well in the same vein, a tree inventory map to meet those requirements. With respect to waivers and design considerations, there haven't been any noted as of yet, but there were a number of planned comments and concerns. First, dealing with addressing. So they're asking to forward street name suggestions or the addressing office will assign. With respect to planning, on number two under plan questions, discuss street layout and alley system requirements. So one of the bigger aspects of the Urban Growth Master Plan is limiting and kind of managing access. So the plan calls for, within this residential portion here, that these houses, the single family, be served by alley system. As it shows now, it's just our standard street layout where each would have their own respective driveway. So the UGMP has very specific controls as far as curb cuts, access, and once again, promoting sort of that alley system and more of a grid network. So the access concerns apply for the multifamily as well as that single family duplex area. So that's gonna be kind of a larger item to address moving forward. Discuss street connectivity to adjoining tracks. So the Urban Growth Master Plan shows a street network that the applicant is sort of providing here, but it needs to extend and connect to this adjoining track in this portion as well. They are showing a connection that could potentially connect to the Blue Sky area that was kind of denoted on the plan, but it needs to show also the development to the north as well. Discuss the proposed setbacks for the single family residential and the duplex uses. So these are showing in here a larger setback than is required by the zoning ordinance. So that can be reduced down in order to get yourself some more developable area. And just note that on the plan. Discuss the extent of the floodplain and the need for a flood study. So once again, providing the, we have an existing mapped floodplain that sort of ends here. We're asking to have the, basically that regulatory floodplain. So based on the Division of Engineering's requirements, like to see the extent of that reflected on the plan as well as any associated vegetative buffer areas to make sure we're getting the full extent and that there isn't any conflicts with that. Discuss the compliance with multifamily guidelines. Once again, when we're looking at a rezoning request, we're looking at the multifamily component being provided. That'll be an ongoing point of discussion on how those can demonstrate that they're meeting those guidelines. It's also intertwined with the zone change application, the justification in there, but there is bleed over kind of between those items. Engineering on note number seven, says discuss the timing of note number 12, which relates to some of the handicap parking and other aspects being denoted as more conceptual. So that will need to be addressed with engineering. Number eight talks about discussing how the existing sanitary sewer system is going to be accessed by the proposed development and the availability and capacity for the areas. That's with the division of engineering. Discussing the location of the stormwater management areas and who will construct, own and maintain them is also with engineering as well. And as always with any of the zone change development plans, we'll be discussing place builder criteria and how those relate as well as the implications within the urban growth master plan. So at this time, staff is recommending postponement. There are questions regarding compliance with the urban growth master plan. And then our sign-offs, if the plan is approved, once again is contention on a successful rezoning. But we have as sign-offs, the engineer, traffic engineering, urban forester, open space planning, division of environmental quality, post office as well. So is there any sign-offs that can be removed or changed with this request? Otherwise, that's all the staff has. Daniel, the tree inventory map was submitted, so that can be removed from the requirements. Not met. Thank you. I think number 18 on the back. Rory Kaley with EA Partners. Nick's out there too. He can help me if I need it. Requirements not met, number 13. My rural surf area setback. Is that waverable or a variance? Because it is a dimension. And I ask because we're trying to get our land used and we're the first ones in, we didn't expect this. Yeah, so that's actually, I don't believe either because that's an aspect of the adopted master plan. So it's not a part of the zoning ordinance. It's not part of the subdivision regulations. It's part of you basically showing that you're meeting the intent of this plan. So it's neither. So you either kind of meet it or don't. And on this one, it's just the Sayer lot. So it's developed, but it's the RSA line. Yeah, I'm sure when that tidbit was added, the idea was horse farms, not ball fields. But yeah, I guess to that point, I guess I had a, yeah. What's that? Well, yeah, that's right. I didn't just, no discernment, was it? Yeah, meeting a plan. I guess that's, I don't know. Cause I could see why that could be impactful in the context. Cause this is probably the narrowest strip of any of the urban growth areas. As far as 100 foot is a larger percentage of your total width than probably any other area in the, that is shown on the expansionary master plan. So yeah, good lawyering might get it done. That's what I knew. Let me ask about the roundabouts. I knew there was, the drawing showed the roundabout. I didn't know it. Every single intersection is called out for a roundabout design? Yeah, and that'll stay. Basically every intersection collector to collect to like an actual street. Not necessarily, not like a driveway or anything, but like an actual street, yeah. Well, the neighborhood streets don't have to be all be roundabouts, but the collector streets, that'll be something to go with it. Everything that hits a collector is expected to be a roundabout. An avenue? An avenue, or sorry, yeah. Our new language, yes. All the new. Yes, so and that will likely, I mean you'll see that again when the Complete Streets Manual finally gets out for you to look at. So they just, they do a great job. There's no traffic calming. We don't come back and say people are speeding because you gotta slow down for them. And there have been so many implemented. I think the state of Kentucky said they're, they've implemented a bunch, but oh, in the planning conference this year, they're gonna build 1,200 in the next decade, so in the state. So we're actually farther behind than the rest of the state, so we're trying to catch up. Okay. Yeah, there's a ton of requirements here. We'll be meeting with all of you to try to figure out exactly what, where I failed, so. You're the first. You're the first one. It had to be somebody. We understand the postponement. Anything else? I did have a question about the floodplain. So because it is mapped on your plan north here. Yes. Or I guess it's east in real life. The, where, do you have a good idea of where the floodplain extends over to the interstate? I mean. No, your request of stuff beyond the regulatory floodplain's new on me, so no. The flood study, you mean? I think it's probably. Sort of like what we did up Harper Woods. The stormwater manual, you would have to set a flood elevation, since there is a stream. And anything that you build adjacent to the stream would need to have an elevation of the 100-year storm event. That's basically where we're coming from. What we need, because we don't wanna show any buildings that could be in the floodplain, even if early on. Well. We need to understand the extent of it. Yes, asking for that extent on the day we filed the zone change is also a bit new for us. So I'll go back and talk to the engineers. Do you remember Harper Woods? Yeah. Yeah, that's, we've asked for it since then. Harper's Mill? Armstrong Mill, too. They have the same thing. Well, it's a, there was a mapped floodplain that stopped, didn't go onto the Featherston Farm, and we asked you to identify the floodplain there at the zone change. Well, that I don't remember. On Armstrong Mill. Yeah, I don't remember. I never thought we went beyond our, the regulatory, but okay. Again, there's no regulatory there, right? It's not mapped. That's the. That's what I'm saying, and that's what you're saying. We need you to map something. That'll be fun. All right, anybody else? All right, so staff recommends postponement. So the motion will be for postponement of PLN-MJDP-2550 with the removal of number 18 under requirements not met, provide treatment for the floodplain, and the removal of the floodplains. Not met, provide tree inventory map in compliance with zoning article 26-4B. So moved. Second. All in favor? Anyone opposed? All right. Thanks. All right. We have another preliminary development plan in conjunction with a zone change request. This is MJDP-2551 Linnhurst Subdivision Block C, the hub on East Maxwell. This is located 251 through 273 East Maxwell, odd only, and 256 through 270 Calmea Avenue, even only. The purpose of this plan is to depict a multifamily residential structure in support of the requested zone change from a medium-density residential R4 zone to a downtown frame business B2A zone. Let's see. So we have East Maxwell to the south and Calmea to the north. This is similar to two plans we've seen previously. Which would be to the northwest, which is to the plan left. The difference with this proposal is it does kind of take up the whole block on all four sides. The proposal is for 322 units, 983 beds, and it's an eight-story structure. The requirements not met for this denote the purpose of the plan. Number two, use standard site statistics box. Number three, denote plat cabinet and slide of previous plat. Number four, remove land use criteria from development plan and provide as a separate exhibit. Number five, dimension all driveways and walkways. Number, excuse me, number six, revise note number four to include public streets. Number seven, provide open space Number seven, provide open space exhibit that complies with the zoning ordinance article 20 and discuss how the requirements are being met. Number eight, existing canopy coverage and site statistics must be depicted on development plan. Number nine, include soil type location on tree inventory map. There are no waivers identified at this time. Design considerations, number one, consider creating a larger plaza space on the corner of Rose and Maxwell to accommodate more pedestrians. Number two, continue Maxwell Street traffic calming bulb outs that were depicted on adjacent project, the Maxwell. Number three, address sanitary sewer capacity. Under plan questions or concerns, discuss type and location in proximity to Rose Street, a garage entry system. Number two, confirm use of onsite compactor. Number three, what is the proposal for stormwater management? Number five, check existing and proposed layer management and cleanup plan. Number six, there is a known stormwater concern on Maxwell Street. Clarify where the final site storm sewer will tie into the existing system. Number seven, how will the existing sanitary sewer system be accessed for the proposed development? Number eight, a consolidation plat will be required prior to construction if approved. Number nine, discuss how open space requirements are being met and provide open space exhibit that corresponds to those specified in the site statistics. Number nine is discuss the place builder criteria. And then the sign-offs, first condition is provided that the Urban County Council approves the zone change to B2A. Otherwise, any commission action of approval is null and void. And then engineering, traffic engineering, urban forester, open space, environmental qualities asked to be removed, so we can remove number six. And then U.S. Postal Service, and finally, correct all noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met herein. Now, I'll open it up for discussion. Any discussion, comment? I have a comment about the sanitary sewer. This is one where we're gonna have to split flows on that, and you'll just have to do an analysis of how much you're putting on each section versus what's already there. So, what we're doing is that basically, we're doing sanitary sewer capacity analysis. We're gonna determine which line, how much there's available flow to kind of drain to, and then we're going to split the flow accordingly to multiple of different location. All right, thanks. Yeah, thank you. All right, this is Jihad Hanan, I'm sorry. Yes, we're in the process. We had the surveyor picking some sanitary sewer manholes and things like that for elevation and pipes. Can you show where the entrance and exits are for the parking garage, because it wasn't real clear to me. Yes, ma'am, yes, ma'am. So, this is the entrance, and this is not illustrated clearly in our plan. That would be the exit in that location. So, there would be one in to the parking garage and one out from the parking garage. So, on the requirement not met, I think some of them are, most of them are cleanup item, which is, we'll take care of them, and provide an open space exhibit. We can provide that. Existing canopy cover, we'll add it to the statistic, and then also, I know Mr. Sutherland, Mark at our office met you on site a couple of times, I believe, or one time, I'm not sure, but there's some communication between you and him about the trees. Okay, and then we can include the soil type, location, and inventory, and that's no problem. Consider larger, create a larger plaza space at the corner of Rose and Maxwell. This is something we can look into it to see if it's something we can make it work. Continue Maxwell Street, the traffic calming, similar on the next, the previous project. Also, this is something we can look into it, and then we can present it, either discuss it at final development plan, or we can see how feasible it's going to be. Sanitary sewer capacity, we'll just discuss it. Discuss the type and the location. So, I'm assuming, David, you basically mean you're worried about queuing into Rose Street? Yeah, yeah, so yeah, just depending on the system, there could be significant delay getting in, and that could be, yeah. Yes, sir, this is something we can work with you at the final development plan. I mean, we don't have specific requirements as it relates to it, but obviously, you all don't want to create a problem. That's a good point, I mean, this is something we don't want to do. For those living there, either, but yeah. A lot of places have gone to licensed place entry, things like that, because of the issues with getting in and out, but I don't know what the implications are of that with the residential, so. Yes, sir. Confirmed use of on-site compactor. Yes, sir, we are using on-site compactor. That will be in the garage. And what's the purpose of the stormwater management? Basically, as Chris mentioned, we are using the whole block. What we are also doing at the same time, similar to what we did on the next door project, the Maxwell, we're doing a stormwater analysis to kind of determine what the storm capacity, and if there's any upgrade of stormwater required to up-size the pipe to a larger pipe, that's what we'll do it, and this will come at the construction plan stage. So, we'll do the cleanup on the cab. There's no stormwater concern on Maxwell, which is, we find out when we did the previous studies, on Maxwell, there's, and Maxwell and Lexington Avenue, both of these streets have some stormwater, which is, when we submit our plan, it includes additional pipe to kind of alleviate all these issues. How will the existing sanitary sewers access? Like we discussed, it's going to be multiple across the building, and consolidation plant, that was something we'll submit at the final development plan stage. Open space will provide an exhibit, and not only for on-site, also, that that project is within half a mile from multiple of city parks, and discuss place builder criteria. This is something we can discuss at the zoning committee, I guess, next week. And if there is any question, we'll be glad to answer it. Thank you. Pedestrian walkway, is the idea that the utilities will be underground through here? Just thinking about how that would interact. So, you're talking about electric? Maxwell and Rose, yeah. Yeah, so, we're not sure yet. We're working with Kentucky Utility, with Rodney, on this kind of project. If you are going to go underground, to stay overhead. The intent is to go underground, but we're not sure how feasible it's going to be. If it's feasible, we're going to do it. If it's not feasible, we're going to maintain the overhead electric, and have the building set back to whatever required by OSHA. And this is how it's designed right now, actually. And there's some 3D renderings, that has been uploaded to our cell. Somebody wants to kind of take a look at what the building is going to look like. So, they are online. So, that will impact the pole locations. I'm assuming, if you, I'm guessing, that they're trying to maximize the size of this building. So, if you have above ground utilities, that means you're going to push those poles as adjacent to the curb as you can, right? So, that you can maximize that offset from this building, and that impacts that PED circulation. So, we'll need some kind of idea of how that's going to impact it. Because you reduce that usable space pretty significantly, not knowing the size and location. And in the past, we've seen some pretty, you all don't have much control over that, but maybe you do. And so, we're trying to mitigate some of the impacts of what we see with poorly placed utilities. More recently, it was a much smaller project, but they had sidewalks in the development plan, everything looked good. KU came in, put their poles in the middle of the sidewalk. Yes, sir. It's like, well, that didn't work. Over here, the existing power poles are going to be at the same location. And then what we did is that we have, you have the power pole, and then you have a line on both sides of the power pole. So, we shut the overhead electric of KU. We have talked to them, and they told us how much they need setback from the overhead electric. So, based on that, we pushed the building. And if we decided to go underground, as I told us, your easement has to be 20 feet, and center 10 feet from the right, from the right away to the line, 10 feet, 10 feet from the line to the building. And the building between these two criteria has been placed at the farthest location. So, there's no issue with the KU. That lesson learned from the previous project, because we came back, and we had to amend, change a few setback lines based on KU location of the overhead electric. You said, so the intention would be if the overhead lines remain, there would be no change in those pole locations. And maybe they could depict those on the renderings, because those are pretty important piece. Like we see these nice, beautiful renderings, and no utility poles. So, if we're gonna do that, it'd be nice to see how it impacts the actual, what does that look like, or anything? Actually, as I mentioned, the intention is to go underground. Oh, okay, good. That's the intention. Assuming for some criteria, we were not able to make it work for some reason, then it has been designed with the worst case scenario for offset, which is that's the building where it is between these two criteria. But our goal is to go underground. When developing your open space exhibit, keep in mind that both Third Bread Park and Woodland Park are over, if not more, half a mile. And the zoning ordinance says a quarter mile within walking distance. So, I just wanted to double check what you said earlier. Okay, thank you. Thank you for the clarification. Anybody else? All right, staff recommends approval. So, the motion will be for approval of PLN-MJDP-2551 with the removal of staff sign-off, or number six, Department of Environmental Quality's approval of environmentally sensitive areas. So, moved. Second. All in favor? Anyone opposed? We have one more plan. We had, didn't make the agenda because it's asking for a reapproval and the deadline is after the agenda was created. So, we're going to MJDP-2435, Kidwell and Otis Property, Gulf View Estates. This plan, they are proposing to add three townhomes. The applicant has asked for a reapproval of this plan. It expired July 11th of, expired this year, July 11th of 25. And so, they're just asking for a reapproval to move this plan forward so that they can get it signed. And so, it has, I didn't get the list of conditions, it has just typical sign-off conditions that have been reactivated in the ACELA program for all to see. And so, with that, just whether you all approve. Yeah. With the standard conditions, so. We just need a recommendation of reapproval. So, is there an associated number with this plan? I'm sorry, I thought I said MJDP-2435. I thought I showed that on the plan. Okay. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. So, the motion is for approval of, reapproval of PLN MJDP-2435. No, sorry? It didn't appear on the agenda. Yeah. All right, so moved. Second. Okay, all in favor? Anyone opposed? All right. Can I ask for clarification? As it's been rebooted or whatever in ACELA, do people need to sign off again or did their sign-offs carry forward? I can reactivate what was on the staff report. Did some people already sign off? Yeah, everybody signed off except for Mary. Oh, okay. All right, we're good. You were able to, okay, you probably didn't notice if everybody else had signed off. Well, if everybody else has already signed off, then she can... Bring that forward. Yeah, basically cancel the new ones because we don't want them to sign off again. Right. Yeah. Okay, all right. Thank you. And then in terms of the last three items on there that are postponed, some of them under our new Article 21 regulations, they would stay on our tech committee agenda for up to a year. And at the point they reach a year, we will ask the committee to indefinitely postpone them. So there is one case here that does fall in that, and it's a final record plat for Hamburg Place Mall Unit 2. So the staff would ask that the tech committee indefinitely postpone this item since there's not been any movement since last July. A PLN FRP 24-25 Hamburg Place Mall Unit 2, Lot 3. Okay, so the motion is to indefinitely postpone PLN FRP 24-25 Hamburg Place Mall Unit 2, Lot 3. So moved. Second. All in favor? Anyone opposed? Thank you. And I think that's it for today. There's donuts in the back if anyone wants some. Just one last thing, and then we'll sit next to each other. You can have one. 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The night goes into morning just another day. Happy people pass my way, looking in their eyes, I see a memory I never realized, how happy you made me. Oh Mandy, well you came and you gave, well I'll take it, but I sent you away. Oh Mandy, well you kissed me and stopped me from shaking, and I need you today, oh Mandy. I'm standing on the edge of time, I walked away when love was mine, I'm caught up in a world of uphill climbing, the tears are in my mind, and nothing is rhyming. Oh Mandy, well you came and you gave, well I'll take it, but I sent you away. Oh Mandy, well you kissed me and stopped me from shaking, and I need you today, oh Mandy. Yesterday's a dream, I face the morning, crying on a breeze, the pain is calling. Oh Mandy, well you came and you gave, well I'll take it, but I sent you away. Oh Mandy, well you kissed me and stopped me from shaking, and I need you today, oh Mandy. Oh Mandy, well you came and you gave, well I'll take it, but I sent you away. Oh Mandy, well you kissed me and stopped me from shaking, and I need you. Oh Mandy, well you came and you gave, well I'll take it, but I sent you away. I wake up every morning, and stumble out of bed, I sit here in a yawning, another day ahead, it seems to last forever, and time will stop. On this edition of Lexington Now, Gatton Park opens a new pool and a new council member. I'm Neal Noah, and welcome to Lexington Now for the week of August 25th, 2025. Gatton Park, sure to be one of the crowning jewels of Lexington's park system, is officially open. We were there for the ribbon cutting. Welcome to Gatton Park! Gatton Park is nearly 12 acres of new possibilities, over 500 new trees, and 30,000 native plants fill this space. A restored stretch of Town Branch Creek, the body of water Lexington was founded on over 250 years ago, with a historic wall rebuilt with stone from the 1790s. You've got to go see it. A half-mile pedestrian loop, a 35-foot gristmill playtower, and yes, it's been safety inspected. Five public art pieces, countless places to sit and gather, and a dog park for small and large pups. I could go on and on as you might imagine, but you'll just have to experience it for yourself. I am grateful to be here. I'm honored and privileged to be able to stand here and represent Mr. Gatton. I only wish he were here to see what's happened to this old parking lot. He would be absolutely thrilled. He would be honored and humbled that the park is named after him. The Bill Gatton Foundation, we've already paid about half of our commitment that we promised to give. We still have about $7 million owed on our commitment, which is to be paid between now and December 31, 2030. $3 million of that remaining $7,000 is to go to the Conservancy, an endowment for the Conservancy. That $3 million is not to be paid until 28, 29, and 30. Allison, we're going to pay that now. We're going to pay it immediately. And we're not only going to pay the $3 million, we're going to add $1 billion. You all will remember from Field of Dreams, build it and they will come. We adapted it a bit here and said, build it first for your own people, then others will come. We are building it first for our own people, and yes, then others will come. Great cities have great parks, but first, great cities have generous citizens who are willing to step up and help out, and that's what we're celebrating today. There's an ancient Greek proverb that goes something like this and applies to all of you right here today in this generation. A society becomes great when its people plant trees in the shade of which they will not sit. In the shade of which they will not sit. Those trees have been planted by so many of you here today, and I want to thank you. Thank you so very much. I just love this effort. It's going to attract not only residents, but tourists alike. And I know I am one of thousands of grandmothers around Lexington who can't wait to get her grandchildren down here. Congratulations to everyone who's worked tirelessly on Gatton Park on the town branch. It has been a true labor of love. Two years ago, many of us stood right here at the groundbreaking. Back then, there wasn't any dirt anywhere, just a lot of asphalt. I'll never forget climbing into that bulldozer to break the piece, the first piece, and I about turned the darn thing over. But nothing compares to today. This is the moment we've all been waiting for, the opening of a true community treasure in the heart of our downtown. With the input of more than 16,000 voices and the generosity of so many, we created Lexington's Living Room, a place where everyone will welcome and where our community can gather and thrive for generations to come. Now I'd like to invite those on the stage behind me to come up so we can cut this ribbon. Three, two, one. Another park, Douglas, now has one of Lexington's best new aquatic centers. It was officially opened at a ceremony this past week. We are thrilled to officially open this long, long, long-awaited facility. A fun, refreshing, wonderful addition to our community. Of course, none of this would have happened without our outstanding Parks and Recreation team. Commissioner Chris Ford, heads up General Services, Director Monica Conrad, and her staff. If you're Parks and Rec staff, give us a wave. I know you're here, lots of you. You have worked tirelessly to make this day possible. Thank you. And to the neighbors who are with us today, including members of the Georgetown Street Neighborhood Association, thank you for your patience. Thank you for all the ideas that you contributed to make this a reality. Direct community input makes it possible to create the programs and the facilities that people truly want and need. The rebuild took a little time, but I think we can all agree it was worth the wait. What an exciting day it is for the First District, for the West End, and for the entire city of Lexington. Today we celebrate the opening of the new Douglas Aquatic Center, a project that represents so much more than bricks and mortar and water. This aquatic center is about community, opportunity, and equity. For years, neighbors have shared their hopes for a safe, modern, and accessible space where families can gather, kids can enjoy, healthy recreation, and seniors can stay active. Today, those hopes are now reality. This pool gives our young people a safe place to play and learn, our families a welcoming space to build memories, and our lovely seniors a chance to stay connected and engaged. This project is also an investment in public health and safety. We know that when young people have access to safe and fun and structured activities, it helps them stay away from harmful influences. We also know that opportunities like this can spark lifetime love for swimming, fitness, and wellness. But beyond recreation, this pool creates and supports jobs, local programming, and drives investment into our community. It represents a commitment to equity by ensuring that every part of our city receives investments, resources, and opportunities they deserve. And let's not forget, this is about joy. Too often we want to face our challenges and we focus on our challenges, but today we can celebrate something that brings us smiles, laughter, and pride to our neighborhood. So most importantly, this investment builds community. Today, we'll open the doors for opportunity for years to come. To the parents, to the children, to the seniors, and to everyone in between, this pool is for you. Let's use it, let's cherish it, and let's continue to build a stronger, healthier, and more connected city in a healthier, connected first district. So as I conclude, I would like to give a special thank you to everyone involved in making this happen. Special, special shout out to Director Conrad. I mean, she has really been leading this charge. She's been great. Special shout out to the administration, Commissioner Ford, and all of the city employees, as Mayor Gordon has stated. So with that being said, and my apologies, most importantly, a special shout out to the community and the Georgetown Street Neighborhood Association. So with that being said, together we're making history, we're bringing a brighter future to the West End, and this will be a gem for years to come. So now let's get ready, and it's not right now, but we'll get ready to cut that ribbon. So thank you. Oprah Winfrey once said, passion is energy. Feel the power that comes with focusing on what excites you. From day one, the Aquatic Center has brought out everyone's passions, and the excitement has been contagious. This project collectively brought us together for the shared goal of establishing a new Aquatic Center in this park, and we did it. I distinctly remember attending the Georgetown Street Area Neighborhood Association meeting in January 2023 after being elected into office, and the first thing that was asked of me was about, what about the pool? We need a new pool. Thus, I am extremely excited that this day has come, and we are all here to celebrate this long overdue project. I would first like to thank my District 2 neighbors for bringing their energy, passion, and input to this project. Your input shaped what you are witnessing here today. A huge shout out to former Councilmember Tana Fogel, because we started this journey together in 2023. Thank you to Councilmember James Brown, who has been supportive of this project from the very beginning. Thank you to Councilmember Morton, who energetically picked up the baton and carried this project forward to today. Thank you to our Mayor and her team for staying focused and staying the course with this important passion project. Last but certainly not least, a big thank you to Commissioner Ford and Director Conrad and the entire Parks and Recreation team for prioritizing this project for my neighbors. Thank you so much. My closing remarks today are exactly the same ones I gave when we cut the ribbon at the new Black and Williams Gymnasium right down the road. District 2 neighbors, you are invited into this space, a space that has been yours and will continue to be yours. You are invited to make this space your multi-generational community gathering space once again. You are welcome. Welcome home. A new Councilmember in the 6th District when we come back. Thank you. Welcome back to Lexington Now. Lexington has a familiar face back on Council, filling the vacancy created with the departure of Denise Gray. Here's more. I'm honored today to announce that I am appointing Lisa Higgins-Hord as the Councilmember for the 6th District. As many of you know, this is the second time I have named Lisa as a Councilmember. She is a proven leader. She did a great job as a Councilmember in 2020, a very trying job. She is a great leader. She is a proven leader. She did a great job as a Councilmember in 2020, a very trying time for our community right in the middle of the pandemic. I am confident with her strengths and background, she will once again do an excellent job for the District and for our entire community. Lisa has worked at the University of Kentucky for many years in a variety of roles. She currently serves as Assistant Vice President of Community Health, where she works with U.K. Health Care to identify opportunities for collaboration to address health disparities. Yes. Do you solemnly swear that you will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of this Commonwealth? And be faithful and true to the Commonwealth of Kentucky so long as you continue a citizen thereof? And that you will faithfully execute to the best of your ability the office of Councilmember, Lexington-Fayette-Urban County Government according to law? And do you further solemnly swear that since the adoption of the present Constitution, that you, being a citizen of this state, have not fought a duel with deadly weapons within this state, nor out of it, nor have you sent or accepted a challenge to fight a duel with deadly weapons? Nor have you acted as seconds in carrying a challenge, nor aided or assisted any person thus offending? So help you God. I do. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor Gordon, for this incredible honor and for the confidence you have placed in me. I accept your appointment to serve as the 6th District Councilmember beginning today, August the 22nd of 2025, through December 2026. Your trust in me for this appointment is very special. Thank you. Let me reacquaint myself to those of you who knew me during my first appointment to the City Council and those who will be hearing from me for the first time. I am a civic-minded and community-engaged individual with more than 25 years of experience in working with community organizations, businesses, and stakeholders. I also have viewpoints, relevant skills, and civic experience that I feel could immediately complement the exceptional talents and skills of the current Lexington Fayette Urban County Council. During my time on Council, I will be committed to working alongside my fellow Councilmembers, at-large Councilmembers, Vice Mayor, the Mayor's Administration, and City staff to lead with integrity and foster consensus around issues of critical importance to our constituents. I have honed my ability to navigate challenging environments, collaborate effectively with stakeholders, and drive meaningful change. I am firmly rooted in providing the necessary assistance to the 6th District, keeping safety at the forefront, and being thoughtful in my decision-making while ensuring citizens are updated on matters within the District. I look forward to re-engaging with my constituents, deepening relationships with neighborhoods, listening to concerns, as well as recognizing the positive aspects of the 6th District. The District has a rich history and has grown significantly in the past few years and even gone through a redistricting process. I plan to review all of these updates and plan on keeping residents up-to-date through my legislative aid as well as other communications. Thank you again, Mayor Gordon, for your confidence in me and this opportunity. I am ready to serve the residents of the 6th District. Volunteers of America has announced a new partnership with Lexington, benefiting our veterans. Volunteers of America believes every veteran, every veteran deserves dignity and respect. We're committed to promoting the well-being of veterans and their families, whether they're newly transitioning from the military to civilian life or they served a long time ago. We owe them our gratitude for serving this great nation, and many of them now need our help to move forward in their lives and to achieve self-sustainability. Our supportive services for veteran families programs helps unhoused veterans and their families, as well as those at imminent risk of becoming unhoused. We help them find safe and permanent housing. These programs provide eligible veterans and their families with outreach, with case management and assistance in obtaining VA and other benefits. Then there's our Moral Injury and Preventing Suicide Program. We call this MIPS. It provides case management to connect veterans, active duty members, and all first responders to mental health services that help prevent suicide and address moral injuries. That's the psychological trauma that results when you're exposed to events that violate your moral or ethical beliefs. It could be something that we did, something that we witnessed, something that we failed to prevent, or something that was done to us. But the results are often the same, guilt, shame, and loss of trust. So when I think about the impact of our veteran services, I know it isn't just about the person who served our country that we impact, although clearly that's a special point of pride for all of my colleagues who do this work. But it's so much more than that. It's about their families who are also stabilized through our services, and it's about the community that they get to contribute to again. I just want to say that VOA Honor, our Supportive Services for Veterans Families teams, and our MIPS team have served 185 veterans and their families in fiscal year 2025. And much like Jennifer said, we've helped those who are experiencing a housing crisis find housing, maintain housing, those with moral injury or having suicidal ideation, connecting them to community resources, and traditional and more nontraditional type therapies. We were able to do that, like equine therapy, gym memberships, those kind of things. Things that we don't realize, but they really do help your mental health. Being physically active, just being out of the house. Our hope is to have a place for veterans to come and just be. Share time and space with other veterans. Play games. If you haven't been downstairs yet, there's an impressive game room down there. Pool tables, foosball, PlayStation 5. So make sure you get a tour before you leave. We also have there's Kenwick also has a very impressive weight room and cardio room over there. So be sure to check that out. It's just a place for veterans to come to decompress, to have no agenda. Like you don't have to come here because you need something. You come here just because you need a friend. You just need somebody to be with. And then we will be here. And we will be here in the background to offer those services that anybody may need. I believe it's important to recognize the deep commitment that people make in service to others. And our veterans have lived and still live that commitment today, putting the good of our country ahead of themselves. Too often the challenges that our veterans face are felt in silence or isolation. And this Veterans Unity Point will stand as a place of camaraderie, support and belonging, a space where no one has to feel like they're walking their journey alone. As many of you know, I have a very strong connection to the military. My husband, retired Army Major General, was in the active duty army for eight years and the reserve for 31 and a half. So I've lived the life as a spouse. I know the hardships that many of you and your families have taken on in order to serve. My son is currently active duty army, and my son-in-law is active duty Air Force. And through them and their service, especially in Iraq and Afghanistan, I understand, Jennifer, what some of the things are that you were talking about and the things that they had to do there. And it's very difficult for families and others who understand this. And I appreciated you talking about that and how these military members, when they come out of war, they need help. And it's not just then. It's forever, isn't it? So many of my family members served. They wore the uniform in World War II, Korean War, Vietnam War. Needless to say, I understand the pride our veterans feel in serving our country. And they have shared sacrifices. And the challenges that come with military life, some of you probably do what my son and my son-in-law do. They move every two years. Their furniture is broken. Their kids go to new schools. They give up their friends in the old place. It's not an easy life, but it's an honorable life. And we honor those of you who have served. Three, two, one. A busy week of live meeting coverage on LexTV and streaming online lies ahead. And remember, you can also find the most up-to-date information on non-televised city business at lexingtonky.gov. Here's this week's meeting coverage. ♪♪♪ That's all for now. As always, you can keep up with us on social media. Check out the latest traffic updates on X at LexRex or catch our live traffic cams on lexingtonky.gov. We wanted to take a moment to say a fond farewell to longtime LexTV supervisor Chris Edwards. We wish you all the best in your retirement and many happy fishing days ahead. For all of us at LexTV, I'm Neil Noah, and that's it for now. ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ Hey, it's Vaja Nicole with another episode of Your Lex PD. So this next episode is going to be near and dear to you. It is. We're going back to early beginnings of my career, and we're going to talk about the Explorer Post 357 program that we started back in the early days.