Okay, now, now you can hear me just as a reminder as we go through these, um, we are only seeing, the subdivision committee is only seeing cases that need waivers and then zone changes today. In the future, you might see adaptive reuse projects as well, but we don't have any of those today. So just as a reminder. There you go. Okay, so we're going to start on page one. We have PLN MJ DP 2542. This is the Phelps property. This is located at 4075 Old Richmond Road. Uh, this is Old Richmond Road. This is Aphids Way, which is now by the state is now being called Old Richmond Road. And this part here is the Old Richmond Road, which is now being removed. So, um, this is a project that came in a couple years ago for zone change for the CC. They are proposing to have a convenience store. They have a restaurant and then they have townhomes and apartments here. They have a private street. They have an access coming off of Old Richmond or coming off of Richmond Road into the property with the private street that circles around and then hits the aphids that comes through or Richmond Road. They came in and asked for, they had three waivers requested on this on this plan. I was going to get that real quick. Put that on the back. They have three different waivers that they're asking for. First one is for Article 16.6 to allow vehicular use area in the front yard. Um, as you can see, this would be a front yard here off of Richmond Road and the private street. We have another private street here. And again, this being aphids. So, we have parking here, parking here, and then this being, um, the convenience store. It says they're asking for a waiver to allow the vehicle use area in the front yard on a corner. The second waiver is to increase the amount of parking in the front yard in the CC area. So, they have double rows of parking here and they have a parking lot shown here in the corner. And then they have considerable amount of parking throughout the this project here. And then the last waiver is to increase the front yard for parking. This is, um, in the CC. This is Article 23A, um, in the CC zone. I don't know what I did with that, which it states it just a little bit differently to, um, increase the amount or to minimize the placement of parking between the buildings and the adjoining streets. So, they all have to do with having parking in the front yard. Um, but they wanted to follow through with the same layout that they had previously. When we received this, um, so we have the three waivers, but we also received an, um, email from the Kentucky Department of Transportation, um, in reference to the right-of-way here along, um, the old Richmond Road. At this current time, they have it proposed to have their landscape buffer right here within the right-of-way. Um, they're showing their property line to the center line of the road, and the state at this time has not given them permission to use that as their property in this development. Um, they feel like their right-of-way is 25 feet from the center line, um, and towards the property. So, that kind of takes up, um, the, they have proposed 11 feet for the landscape buffer between the CC and residential, and then they have their parking here. So, it takes up a good part of the buffer and the parking along here. So, at this time, I'm not, we haven't received any, uh, revised plans or anything to show that they're making changes to meet what the state, um, has asked for. Um, so, we're afraid that, or not afraid, we believe that there could possibly be some additional waivers that need to be requested. So, at this time, um, the only three, the only three that we received were for the parking and vehicle use area in the front yards. So, with that, um, we have our standard sign-off conditions as we have in all of our other plans. Um, this technical committee had recommended postponement on this, um, regarding compliance with articles 16 and 18 of the zoning ordinance. We have our typical sign-offs with engineering, traffic, landscape, addressing, forester, bike and ped, open space, fire, waste management, divisional water, U.S. Postal, Kentucky Department of Transportation Cabinet, um, and then to correct some note deficiencies and provide a planning commission grants the waivers that I've just spoke of and possible any other future, uh, waivers that they may need. With that, I'll open it to you all to see if there's any other comments or questions. Have any questions for staff? Okay. Okay. Um, can we have the applicant, please? Okay. Good morning. I'm Dick Murphy representing the applicant. Tony Barrett is with us too. Um, as you all probably recall two years ago, we had this zone change up here almost exactly two years ago and the final development plan we're showing to you is basically identical to the preliminary, uh, development plan that, that you all approved two years ago. Since that time, there's been some changes in the ordinance which, which, which require the waivers that we're asking about. But when we did this, we had, um, come in and met with the green space staff, uh, Boyd Seway and Valerie Freedman at that time before we had our layout set. And at that point, I was there and Tony was there and Dennis was there and Boyd and Val and, uh, they took it and drew it up, say, well, we, we had it roughly laid out, but I said, well, it'd be better this way. And that's the way we have it, the way that it was drawn out in conjunction with, uh, with the green space planning staff. But we recognize we do need waivers at this point. The, uh, as Ms. Galtrip, um, told you, they all relate to, there we go, the parking between the building and the street. This is our sit down restaurant. We'd originally had a drive-through restaurant in here, but they're suggesting this is a sit down restaurant with a patio to make it appealing to the pedestrian. This, this gray is not a vehicular use area. It's a, it's a sidewalk going through there to make it more appealing to the residential units that we have right here. So we moved this building back to get closer to the residential buildings. We made alterations in the Wawa to make it closer to the residential as well, put in a crosswalk on here. Uh, so we're asking for, and there's parking down here, same with this. This is our clubhouse building with the office swimming pool, recreation center, that sort of thing at the staff suggestion. We thought they were very good suggestions. We moved it closer. So we have more of a synergy, make it easier for our pedestrians living here to get to the restaurant clubhouse, the Wawa here on that as well. So we're wanting to keep the same layout that we had on this lot. It's interesting. The ordinance would allow us to have one aisle of parking between the building and 8th and Spoonsboro road, but we're asking for the waiver to have the second aisle of parking there as well. So we don't have to have to have it on both sides. So we can have it be closer to the, to the residential area here as well. The, uh, I know a lot of the reasons we want our buildings close to the road is to have the pedestrian synergy with the road sidewalks and have pedestrian connectivity and visual link to the buildings. On this site though, you can see here, the great height differential between Nathan Spoonsboro road and our property line. These contour lines are two foot contour lines. So every seat, every time you see a line, it's two feet. And I had the number here about what our, what our differences here, 13 feet at least here from, from the surface of the road up to our vehicular use area. And it's also a great distance. We're about 105 feet, I think from the edge of pavement to our property line. We're about 180 feet to the, this building, as you can see, we're even more, probably, uh, 250 feet from this building. So our parking area is not going to be even probably visible from the traffic on the roadway of Nathan Spoonsboro road. We're not going to have pedestrian. Um, you know, somehow I've got a dot now. We're not going to have pedestrian, uh, traffic through here because the state has designed this so that the big trail is on the other side of Nathan Spoonsboro road. So that's our, our justification for the waivers in a nutshell. I put a formal request in to the staff as well. Um, staff has made us aware of the, the highway department notification regarding the old Richmond road right-of-way here. We had shown on our development plan going to the center line of Richmond road. There's a question here. It's sort of a technical question. Was old Richmond road a purchased right-of-way that the state purchased or was it a easement or prescribed easement? Because more likely this road's probably been here for 200 years and they didn't have a formal planning process back in the early 1800s or 1700s. And, but it makes a difference because it may, may mean if the state had purchased this, and I think they said this in the letter, the, we'd have to wait two years after completion of this project and then we'd have the right to buy, buy the right-of-way at fair market value. On the other hand, if it was an easement, our property line always went to the center line and it reverts automatically. We're looking into that. We, our preliminary research indicates that our deed went to the center line of old Richmond road here, which may mean we'd get it quicker on here, but we're fine. We're checking on that. We'll have more information here. Hopefully in the next few days, we'll be talking to the staff about that. If our worst case comes up and it's, and we're going to have to wait two years to purchase this, we'll talk to the staff on, we've, we've thought about a timing restriction saying we cannot start these buildings along here until, and unless we receive the right-of-way from the state on it, or perhaps making part of this still a preliminary development plan instead of a final or, or something else. But we'll be, we'll be talking to the staff about this in the next, next few days prior to your meeting next week. Hopefully we can get this resolved by your meeting next week on this. So that's where we're at. Just to, if you haven't been out there, the RCUT project is finally well along. We had to wait until the state did this so we could get our elevations for our roads coming into the, the new, new, new roads. The, AFID's way has been totally removed. I mean, the pavement's been torn up. It's gone. As an example of what type of grading they're doing at this point, where our street, our private street meets what will be Richmond Road coming in, our grade is being reduced 20 feet. They're taking 20 feet down at this point. Less, a little less grading over the rest of it, but it's, we have to do grading on our property to meet the street grades that the state has established through this new project that they're doing. So that's where we're at. And I appreciate your attention to it and we'll hopefully have a lot more information to you next week on this at the hearing. Thank you. Any questions? There you go. Thanks for the technical help. If you could put apartments or housing in C.C., you may be the first person to do it. We, we, I can't tell you how many I've seen C.C.C.'s are going to put housing in. It never goes in. So is that road, could, could that road stop the housing? No, we'd have to re, we'd have to redesign the housing. We'd rather not redesign it because we think we've got a really good design here. We've got a number of buildings you can get from the apartment building to the restaurant without ever crossing a traffic, traffic, a driveway, a parking lot, a road or anything. So we really like the design we have here, but if it works out, we'll have to redesign it somewhat on this. Because I, you know, every C.C. I can think of, all this presentation I was thinking, but what C.C.'s we've had. And I can't recall any housing being put in a C.C. It's a lot of promises, but it never happened. So if you could pull that off, I thank you. We're real, real optimistic about it. So taking a higher level view of the area here, I really liked the idea of the sit down restaurant. I'm really happy to see that that went in there. There was a significant amount of opposition from the condo community in the same area. Will those people have pedestrian access, easy pedestrian access to come to that restaurant? Because it seems like some of the resistance may go down. You mean the condos over here? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have a, you see, we have a sidewalk going down to the old Richmond Road right of way here. That would be obviously our berm. We're showing a berm through here. Obviously, that would be a break in the berm so people can can get from the old right of way on their side up through here right to there or right to there. Curious question, Mr. Murphy. The old right of way, the question as to deed or easement and you all obtaining it, you said would have to wait two years to be able to purchase it. When's that two years start or when is that two years out? Well, our rule is, and we're looking into this, that it'd be, I think, two years if this is a purchased right of way. If we don't have an easement on the property, we're optimistic we have an easement. If it's purchased, as I understand, be two years from completion of the RCOT project in this, on this, surrounding this property here. So, you don't have any control. No, we've had to wait these two years. Reason we're in now is because they've started the RCOT. So, they've actually done the physical work. So, we know exactly where, how much lower those roads are going to be. It's going to be, I've been talking about the grading we have to have to do, but they are tremendously improving the safety over here. If you've ever been on Aphid's Way, it had tremendous vertical curves on there and you got on it and you couldn't see what was coming at you and it was very narrow as well. So, it's going to be a real safety improvement on the property. So, I don't mean to brag about it, but yeah, but we had to wait for that. So, we're hoping we don't have to wait more on this as well. Thanks. And just to put this on the record, because I know it'll come up in a hearing at some point, the reduction in the tree canopy there was directly related to the amount of grading you had to do. Yes, yeah, the amount of grading we're, we're forced to do is, is, is the impact, has the impact on that. Yeah. Mr. Murphy, you're, you've mentioned hopeful, possible hearing this next week. Cheryl's saying they could be other waivers, you know, is this thing really viable for next week? Well, we'll, let us check on that. I mean, we may be able to, I guess we could ask for a waiver down here. If we have to ask for another waiver, we haven't met the filing deadline, you know, so we'd have to probably be carried over to another one, but we're still, still got my fingers crossed that we'll be able to be in front of you next week. Just to clarify, there's a couple things that we asked be corrected or denoted and that would help us determine if another waiver is necessary, specifically about the, the entrance dimensions. Those are limited for traffic engineering purposes and where it's measured from. So some of them appear to be over 30 feet when, when we measure it at the right of way. Yeah. So I guess that was my quick, because like, they're all going in the state's building wall. So it was like, well, not the private street entrances. So are you sure on off Athens, the access off of their private street? Oh, I'm sorry. This little L. Those are not dimension to, to know how wide they are. In addition, you have a, you have a crosswalk that's crossing 50 feet of pavement from the private street to the back of the gas station. Totally. I talked about that yesterday. It has to be raised or you have to ask for a waiver, right? It's not denoted as raised, whereas your intersection is denoted as raised. So that's something else that we looked at. Yes. The landscape berm. I'm not sure if that's a variance or a waiver. Seems like it would, if you're dimensionally changing it, it would be a variance. And then your private streets, just so we're all on the same page, are streets still. So that makes your, appears to me, the restaurant on a corner lot as well. And then your gas station is surrounded on four sides by right of way. Obviously, that's kind of a unique situation. Where would you put your vehicular use area? It has to go somewhere, but yeah, just wanted to clarify that. Any other questions for that? Yeah. One thing that we'll be looking for some additional information on your grading and drainage. And you mentioned their APIDs or the state project has dropped in the elevations. I'd like to just discuss what your grading plan is and where your stormwater is going to be going, especially at the Richmond Road right of way with that culvert that goes under there. Anything else for that? Thank you. Do we have any public comment? Okay. All right. I'm going to bring it back to the committee. Madam Chair, with the information that we've heard and the possibilities that there's possibilities there, and I think, just simply think we need some more information concerning these waivers at this time. So my recommendation would be for a postponement of plan in MJDP 25-42, the Phelps property, with the noted waiver request or needs. And the 14 conditions. I'll second that. Okay. Motion has been made and second. Any questions to that motion? Not? All in favor? Which is unanimous. Thank you. Okay. Moving on to page three of the agenda. We'll be looking at making sure I'm looking at the right thing. That's okay. MJDP 25-52, Gainesway Mall Shopping Center, Southeastern Hills Subdivision, Unit 3. This is located at 1163 and 1165 Center Parkway. So, on the plan, Center Parkway is, let's see, how do we do that? Ah, there we go. Double click. Center Parkway is at the bottom of the plan and Appian Way is to the right. So, there's the existing buildings and they're proposing a new multi-tenant retail building in the southeastern corner with parking and circulation. We'll zoom in a little bit on that. So, they're showing a drive aisle around the rear of the building, parking along the front, and then this large rectangle is the proposed building. For this plan, we do have two waivers. They provided a revised plan with some changes, so you should have a revised staff report in your packet. Since we're just considering the waiver, the waivers for this, we won't go through the requirements not met. That'll just be part of their sign-off process for certification. The waivers that are necessary, a waiver of the Zoning Ordinance Article 16-6A-1, which doesn't allow VUA in the front yard for corner lot. So, they're showing this drive aisle, again, that circles the building. Appian Way is here and Center is here. And then the second waiver is Zoning Ordinance Article 16-6A-3, direct pedestrian access to the right-of-way. So, the proposed lot line is here. The existing sidewalk is along both of the roadways with a little bit of a grade down to the subject property. So, they're proposing their pedestrian access to connect off of the property to the right-of-way. And it's a little hard to see on here, but this sidewalk that goes along here is actually off of the property. So, they're showing a connection to it, but they don't have a direct connection on their property as the ordinance calls for. So, those are the two waiver requests that they're asking for. And then we have the standard sign-offs, engineering, traffic engineering, landscaping, addressing, urban forester, environmental quality, bike ped, open space, division of fire, division of waste management, documentation of the capacity assurance program requirements, postal service, and then to correct all noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met, and then provided that the waivers are granted. So, with that, I'll open it up to the committee. Thank you. Any questions for staff? Are you all good? All right, thank you. Now, we'll have the applicant. Good morning. This is Jihad Hallani with Vision Engineering. A little bit about this project. Basically, we're proposing the building is going to be an existing parking area for Gainesway Shopping Center. And so, removing some asphalt and parking spaces and placing the building. And the orientation of the building, just because there is a significant rate change between Center Park and Apian Way, I believe approximately 14 feet. Center Park is 14 feet higher in elevations than the proposed building. And so, we felt that orienting the building toward the other building so they can be facing each other, it makes more sense. So, that's in regard for why we have to have the building oriented that way. And for delivery of trucks or anything like that for kind of... So, that will be the road along the back and the sidewalk for the back door to kind of access for loading and loading area. And for the sidewalk, just because there's great change, this is the only place we can make the sidewalk connect to the public street if we need to get basically to make it ADA required. And so, this will be the access to a public street from that lot. And part of the final record plat will have reciprocal parking as well as access between all the different buildings within that area. And if you have any question for me, oh, and also for the trees, we're not impacting any of the trees. So, there's no... Yeah, all Sycamore trees, all of these trees are Sycamore. So, they are sitting way higher than the site. Way higher than the site. Yes. Is fire okay with the 16-foot wide drive aisle? Yes, we are. Okay. The plan actually shows 15. I think there was maybe a misunderstanding about the width. It's a 15-foot width. The applicant did provide an auto turn for this and then actually stated that it looks like that they will need to add some pavement in the corners based on the auto turn. I think I'm making 16. So, 15 is okay too? No, I thought we were discussing 16. Yes, I'll make the change to 16. Okay. Yes, sir. Thank you. Any additional questions for the applicant? Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate you. All right. Do we have any public comment? Okay. Yes, come forward and state your name and address. Well, I'm on staff. Oh, you're on staff. Okay. So, I'm Scott Thompson. I'm the bike and pedestrian coordinator and we review these plans for ADA compliance and accessibility. I'm assuming these are one-foot contours on this drawing. Is that correct? I think they're ones because the... So, if you look at the corner of that lot, there's three contour lines between the sidewalk and the drive aisle. That's three feet, not 14 feet. So, there's not that much grade difference between that connection. This is also on an extremely busy transit route. That transit stop location is right over here. Appian Way is allowed to have a sidewalk that is at the same grade as Appian Way, which is not technically ADA compliant as it relates to accessibility, right? ADA allows you to match the grade of the roadway with a sidewalk regardless of that slope, okay? But it's still not easy to navigate with a wheelchair. What is easy to navigate is a ramp from their property up to Center Parkway. This is one of the busiest transit routes that we see in Lexington, the three-year route. This area has a high school, a park, all kinds of pedestrians walking around everywhere. There are refugee housing. There is assisted housing over here. There's a very high walk-up rate. So, when we talk about the importance of connectivity and the regulation that requires a connection to the public right-of-way, these things are really important. It's not impossible to build a ramp at the grades required to get up to Center Parkway. Most people don't walk the opposite direction to walk to where they're going. This takes people directly away from the public right-of-way to try to tell them to walk up to the public right-of-way. So, they'll walk in the street. What we're trying to prevent is people walking in the street because that's where they get hit by cars. So, I think just consider those things when we talk about removing a requirement that could easily be built as a part of this project. So, that's what I have to say. If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks, Scott. Scott, show us again where you're talking about. We need a microphone. So, it's not impossible to build, right? And given the scope of this project and the other things that it does, turn it back to the street, closing in, there's all kinds of other things that we won't get into. But regardless, they could build a sidewalk access to Center Parkway. So, would that go across the... So, the sidewalk, the way we are showing it, we're showing to come here and then access the entrance. There's an existing sidewalk along the entrance. Is that sidewalk, is this ADA compliant or are there stairs at this location? No, there's no stairs. I don't know if it's ADA required. Okay. Provided that access is ADA compliant, you're asking to waive the access on your site to the public right of way, not the access from it. Any access from your proposed lot to the right of way. You are crossing another lot to get to the public right of way. Could they take that sidewalk out, the other development or the adjacent development? Well, I mean, is it the same owner currently? Yeah, you can make that part of your modification. Well, I just want to make sure that... I don't know how that helps. I mean, the sidewalk here is running that long of a distance heading toward the building because you can count one, two, three, four, five. The building, most probably, is going to be at that elevation. Otherwise, it's going to be, if you look at the building itself, there is one, two, three, four feet of drop in the building. So you cannot have the building this elevation and have four feet drop on the back. So most probably the building is going to be at that elevation and this area is going to be cut down. We just need, you know, the argument is to make sure that you have access to the public right of way that's ADA compliant from the site. So provided that that six-foot sidewalk meets that, that you're connecting to, I think I'd be okay with that. But I don't know if it still meets the requirement of the ordinance. So that's a different... Yeah, this one here would be ADA for sure. Well, but the sidewalk on Appian is only ADA compliant because it's the same slope as the roadway, but that slope is greater than eight and a half percent and doesn't have landings. So ADA allows the sidewalk to be at the same slope as the roadway, but that doesn't mean that it's truly accessible. It just means that we have steep roadways and we have sidewalks adjacent to them. It would be impossible to make those truly ADA compliant. So I think that's a different It would be impossible to make those truly ADA compliant. So what we want to make sure of is that there's an ADA compliant access to this site that is truly accessible. It may meet the regulation in the public right of way, but it doesn't mean that it's truly accessible. So that's what we would need to know. That's what I would need to know about that other section. Okay. We can get to the information. Right. Should they be allowed to waive that, you know, that particular part of the ordinance? Okay. Thank you. Did y'all have any other questions for me? I'm learning. Okay. Thank you. Any additional public comment? All right. Let's bring it back to the committee. I just want to make sure I understand how we package what we just heard. Are we adding a condition that says change the fire drive aisle to 16 feet? Is that a new condition? I think fire will address that with their sign off. Yes, because they're sign off number nine. Okay. So then in terms of what we just heard, a condition that we ensure access to the public right of way that is truly ADA compliant. No, that's what they're asking a waiver of. They're asking a waiver of that? I do, but explain that to me. Yeah. On the front, so the requirements not met were identified at tech committee. Then they filed a waiver on Friday of two of those requirements to ask that they not have to adhere to the zoning ordinance for those two sections. So one is the VUA, which is their service drive that goes around the building. And the other is the pedestrian direct pedestrian access to the right of way. So again, they have access off the site to other sidewalks. So those are their two waivers. Then that translates to a condition. Condition number 14 provided the planning commission grants those two waivers. Otherwise, they're going to have to make some changes to their plan. So our option would be not to grant that waiver. Is that what you're saying? Right, which at this point, we don't have a staff recommendation on that. You've heard from the bike pedestrian planner, but the staff hasn't formulated a report for you. We would do that for next week. Okay. Grant one, not grant two. Do you have any thoughts there? I guess we have the option of moving this forward and then letting this conversation take place in the full in the hearing, right? With the staff recommendations and report. Yeah, that'll work. Okay. That's the best way to do it. All right. Madam Chair, I move for approval of PLNMJDP 2552 Gainesville Mall Shopping Center with the attached 14 conditions. Do we get a second? I second. Okay. All right. That motion's been made and second for approval. Any questions? Does that, are we approving both waivers? No, that just affects the recommendation on the plan and is still contingent on you reviewing the waivers and approving those. Okay. So that's what we'll discuss further next week. So, we're not going to make a recommendation as a committee on the waivers. If you would like to provide some feedback, that's, that would be great, but it's not necessary. Well, right now, I'd grant one, not grant two. So the question becomes, what makes it work better, the meeting? Well, at the meeting, Mr. Cheney will present their, the specifics of their request, and then also the conditions or the requirements, criteria in the ordinance. And are they meeting those? And if yes, then we would have a finding for approval. And if not, then. Okay. I can do it either way. I just didn't know. Because right now, with the information we have, I would not be in favor of granting a second waiver. So, I'm putting in a request to Mr. Thompson. Can you be at the public hearing? Next Thursday. That's what we need. Okay. We're fine. All right. Any additional questions to that motion? Okay. All in favor? Aye. That's unanimous. Okay. So, it's not necessary for us to act on the waiver today. I think it is. I don't know why you wouldn't make the committee recommendation. Waiver is part of the condition. You can bring it up for me. Oh, yeah. You know. Can't talk over me, Frank. Oh, good morning, everyone. Daniel Crone, Planning Staff. This is going to move us on to our zoning development plan. So, the first one this morning is the Cambrake Subdivision Unit 1, which is featuring the Basler properties. So, this is a development plan that's in conjunction with a request to rezone properties within the new expansion areas. So, these were areas that were incorporated into the urban services boundary with the 2024 Urban Growth Master Plan. So, these are in a sort of unique way. We're looking at this from the zoning ordinance perspective. We're also looking at this for conformance with that master plan that you all spent time developing with great detail. So, the comments today are going to be kind of a mixture of things that the plan called for as well as the zoning ordinance itself. But just to orient everyone, we have Cambrake, which is curving throughout the screen here. Right, this is as you're going towards Athens Boonesboro Road. So, the interstate is located further down here to the plan. Up on the plan here, we have that's the direction headed towards Blue Sky. And then Sayre's facilities are located across the road here. So, once again, Cambrake under that plan is envisioned to extend further back and really whereas now it's sort of dead ends with some kind of residential, large residential lots is anticipated to sort of expand and sort of be kind of like a further town center. The plan itself for here, though, because of its closeness to the interstate, Blue Sky, et cetera, was initially recommended for sort of that flex space industrial. And so, the request we have before us today is a mix of residential and industrial. So, this up here across Cambrake is proposed to be I-1 flex space. And then these areas here, as well as here, are also proposed to be I-1 flex space. But it does have a residential component as well. So, coming in off a road system that they are incorporating here and curving through is going to be a mix of single family, duplex lots, as well as multifamily of a couple different types as they kind of ring around here. They are also showing a roadway that stubs into the adjoining property here outside of the urban services area. So, once again, setting up a potential connection to the Blue Sky development if a couple of kind of dominoes fell. So, we have a variety of conditions on the plan right now. So, going from small things, just kind of working through the plan here, we have some aspects that traffic engineering has flagged. I'm talking about just pedestrian connectivity, much in a similar conversation of what we just had. But there are some elements of this that, once again, take direction from that urban growth master plan. So, the master plan has a very specific cross section that denotes how the boulevards are going to function. And so, cane break needs to be shown with the correct facilities to meet that. So, that includes a dedicated protected bike lane. It also prescribes roundabouts. So, here, the kind of main intersection between the residential development and then the flex-based industrial here needs to be shown as a roundabout. They are showing a portion of one here as well. But that's a treatment that's going to be very common kind of throughout going with the roundabouts instead of the sort of standard intersections here. Once again, we have some notation conditions relating to labeling streams, labeling the dimensions of things like access drives, some cleanup conditions relating to the site statistics box. But where we really start to get into actual kind of conditions, the 100-foot rural service area setback. So, one of the big components that was incorporated into the plan is a setback or a buffer where these areas that were brought into the expansion area adjoin areas that are zoned agriculturally that are outside of that. And so, it doesn't apply in this direction because this is now within the urban services area. But the Sayre School property, which is this portion here and then curving around to the north, that has a very restrictive 100-foot setback. So, that's no buildings, that's no parking. And so, that is going to have some substantial implications for what can be developed on this portion of the property here. It even has implications for how far you can show that stub of the road in. One of the later additions to your discussion on the plan and the adoption of the plan was not taking those sub streets where they adjoin the ag areas and extending them all the way. So, that is going to be kind of a big item that the applicant is going to have to address in order to kind of make this plan work. They'll need to show the group residential buffer. So, once again, sort of a labeling component. They have to show that they can meet the necessary other buffers and open space. Right now, there's not been any waivers identified or requested by the applicant. But there are kind of a number of discussion items, once again, touching on some similar things that we've already mentioned here. The first is, once again, an addressing. Just needed to have the applicant touch base with the office for addressing. From the planning side of things, the street layout and the alley system is a big deal. So, part of the core principles behind the new expansion areas was this idea of using the modified grid. So, essentially, we are going to have a larger number of streets that are going to provide connectivity between parcels and really where this is being shown or has the largest implications is here in the residential area. So, they are showing a street that loops around and then connects here and then one other internal street. But these are showing single family residential lots, once again, with each with their own individual driveway, which is not what the plan is calling for. The plan is calling for your building streets and then having things like residential served by rear alleys. Basically, moving that access so that you have the buildings fronting on the street and then an alley system serving from the rear. So, that has implications for how this needs to be shown as well as the multifamily residential as well. So, they're basically just not showing that and it's not set up to accommodate kind of the access management. And so, there's a couple different places within the plan that explicitly limits the number of non-alley curb cuts you can have. So, the applicant's going to need to address that. There is a concern with the street connectivity, kind of larger. The Urban Growth Master Plan actually shows a street network. So, they're more or less fulfilling that as they are extending through here. The track to the left is not included with the request, but it is within the urban services boundary. And so, the applicant needs to show in the plan that was approved, there's a street that would continue up this way. So, right now, they're not showing that connection. They're showing it as parking in a drive aisle. And so, that does need to be subbed in in order to meet that requirement. Talking about the proposed setbacks for single-family residential and duplex uses, they are showing a fairly significant increase over the required setback for residential here. So, as they are looking at, thinking about that site in regards to the access and the alley system, they also have a significantly reduced setback that they can play with in order to maybe more efficiently use those lots. The applicant is going to need to provide some information on the extent of floodplain. So, here we have included within the notation of correctly noting the streams, we do have areas of floodplain that are mapped to a certain extent. So, it kind of stops here. We're asking the applicants in a very similar way with the Parker's Mill rezoning that you all recently reviewed. In instances where we have a clear understanding that that floodplain is extending farther as shown, we're asking the applicants to show kind of the extent on a 100-year flood event, what that is looking like so that we can make sure we've got the buffers and that we're make sure we're not missing anything as we're evaluating that. So, we're asking the applicant to provide that detail and notation on the plans. It's got multifamily development. So, we need some information on how they're meeting the multifamily design guidelines. That's going to be kind of tied into Mr. Young's review on the zoning side a little bit more in depth, but those do speak to things like orientation and how those are meeting. And so, we need to make sure that those can be met. There are notes concerning the timing on sidewalks and handicap spaces that is courtesy of engineering. And then we need to ensure that the sanitary system meets the engineering requirements as well, as well as who is going to construct and own the stormwater management. And then our last kind of discussion piece is discussing the place builder criteria. So, once again, this is a preliminary plan that's associated with a zone change in a master plan area. So, there's going to be normal place builder criteria that we will be talking about in the zoning committee today. There will be master plan specific criteria. But after you all have finished with your questions with me, Jeremy would be happy to come up and talk about public engagement as well as kind of the place builder. So, with that, the rest of the sign-offs are typical sign-offs. And be happy to address any questions you got of staff right now. I just want to clarify the 100 foot. Set back up there by the property. Are you saying that what's what's shown in the diagram currently is in that set back? Yeah, so they are not showing anywhere near. So I think so. Essentially, a 100 foot would take you at about this point right here, and then equivalently on the other side there. So it. Basically, all of these buildings and the associated parking would need to be relocated or change to meet that. That's about the only spot on the plan though. That meets that or that that hits that requirement. The other aspects are where it joins either is in the urban services area, or it's not zoned ag. And so they don't have to meet that. Daniel, beat you to it, Frank. Daniel, I must have zoned out just for a second. Hey, I'm honest. I'm honest. No, I've got the question. I move fast. I understand. Existing sanitary sewer capacity and so forth. This is, I guess, the 1st. Development we've seen as far as the new expansion area. Is there. Sanitary sewer out there, what's going to happen with that? How do we go forward with that? Yeah, so we did have 1 rezoning that was further down on came break. That was within that be 5 feet area. But, yeah, other than that. So, this is, I guess, flagged as 1 of the engineering's any, any inside of that or is that water quality sanitary section was here and they said they've done some upgrades to the pump station that this would flow to. So, they felt like there's some capacity, but they'll have to evaluate as things come in. And I know there's some sanitary just up towards Athens, so we'll just have to look at, you know, the lines and how they connect, can connect. I think you got it, Frank, you know, great minds work in tandem. My question is a little bit connected with that. And then I have another 1. So, this will go to pump station, be pumped back to Jacobson and then going to Force, Maine. I think they, I think they said this was going to blue sky. Maybe. Okay, so that would be the gradual fall to blue sky. All right, and my 2nd question is for Daniel and it's. How we have exaction fees on this news? No exactions. So, the developer is going to cover all of it up for. Yes, there is still in process and infrastructure. Funding plan, so the commissioner's office is working on that, but it's not complete yet. So, at this point, any development would. Any infrastructure related to the development would be at the developers cost. Okay, the reason I'm asking that question is, is that. You know, to do right, you got to start out right. And if this is our 1st, major 1, and I think it is. Then inquiring minds need to know. How that's going to work, right? And the infrastructure we're looking for is obviously sewer connections. Storm water, the road improvements. There's open space, although that may not necessarily be a public park. But those are the type of things we're interested in making sure are available for development. And apply to this particular case, so. Yeah, that's not really a question as much as a confirmation. Essentially, in the zoning we've got here, this is functioning almost like an zone and that we've got. In flex space with residential, presumably housing for the people who might be working in that flex space is that so it's split up into the so the way that it was master plan. This was recommended as this flex industrial areas, but sort of the core underpinning of the entire plan is we need the residential. So residential can go into any of the areas that were outlined in that master plan. Now, the way the applicants broken this up is just seeking 2 separate zones. So, once again, they've got all of their commercial here with that flex space. All of the flex space here and here are on their basically own dedicated tracks. And then that residential that's supporting that is located here. So that's sort of how they've navigated it because this is an area that was. Just recommended for that flex space, but residential can be a component of that. And it's something that we're looking to support. Any other questions. All right, Jimmy. Thank you. Jeremy, I'm planning staff. Mr. he covered a lot of the details, so I won't repeat and bore you with those, but I will give you the information about the zoning component of this. This is 2, 513. it is the Basler property. The request is from a R to R4 and I1, which are medium density, residential and light industrial. The place type that they've chosen is industry and production center for the I1. And new complete neighborhood for the R4, the residential component. Development type is industry and production non residential. And medium, medium density residential for the R4. They have done the applicant has stated they have conducted public engagement, having 1 on 1 meetings with the neighbors, but we don't have any details of what what some of the concerns may have been. From those neighbors, so we have requested a little bit more information about that. We also, this development requires a parking demand mitigation study. We have not received 1 of those as part of the application. I spoke with the applicant a couple of days ago and they're aware of that. So I think that we should get 1 of those soon staff has recommended postponement. There are a few things that we'd like to to get more information on, as Daniel said, like I said, I won't repeat those, but there are. Questions on how it meets the urban growth management or urban growth master plan and a few information or a few more details on how it meets the comprehensive plan. So, if you've got any questions about the zoning, I can answer those. All right, thank you. Do we have the applicant? Can I ask him a question? Roy. Hello, where have you guys discussed connecting to this existing sanitary sewers? I know there's a force main that crosses this, but what is the plan to find that that easement? We didn't have that. As far as I know, everything goes in to that system there, and it joins the process that gets pumped out for everything in that region. So, I don't know. Yeah, everyone over there's got it's going somewhere. I assume we get to go there too. All right. All right, you can go ahead and start at the beginning. Yeah, we know we're going to have a post moment, a whole lot of stuff that we've got no. I personally have no idea what's going on with the 1 item when we do finally get around to going forward with this. Uh, I would hope that the item number 7 post office. Could be to reflect the locations not to actually get a sign off getting the federal government to give me an answer in 2 weeks is a bit difficult. Um, that's the real technical stuff for me. That's my 1 question. We're going to have to end up meeting with every division. I think to go through all of these many items of recommendations that they've listed here for us and get it figured out. So, this is this may be too early to ask this question, but since we're all concerned about housing. Can you estimate how many housing units will be included in this in maybe break down by housing unit type? Um, yes, I could get my plan. Okay, I think it's all in there. Um, you guys. Can we will it will it? And I'm still not big enough I couldn't read it either. I got the plan. So many so many so many. 3, the plan is showing 312 apartment units. 250 dwelling units that being. That is separate, so I think that is the 4 plex is the duplexes and the single family. Although that might be a little high for that number. Part of planning staff's comments were to clarify that count in the box. Yeah. Yeah, that's a big box, but I got expanded. Oh, yeah, my vocals help the 2 at least a Bob. Yeah. It was mentioned a little bit about neighborhood engagement. Anything happening in yeah, as they reported our property owner lives out there and he's got a few residential neighborhoods. And they all seem to talk to each other. I don't believe there's been a formal neighborhood meeting. Not much of a neighborhood. Other than that, I don't know. I, they've been in touch with Sarah. I guess that'd be the. The corporate entity that we most directly affected are up next to. So. That conversation has been going on. So, um. That conversation has been going on, especially as we show the proposed road going. Towards them big picture. Big picture is that road, which is violating this 100 foot. Setback stuff would connect through essentially an unused portion of them. Tie over to the other side of blue sky and provided. An access, but I, I think there's some difficulty. Government wise with us getting there's a separate piece of ground in the middle and I don't know if we're able to. Make that connection that's what the area people kind of want to do, but. That's still up in the air as to whether that parcel can be brought in. And as far as that 100 foot setback, I think that is probably. 1 of the items that will really get scrutinized as we review this. At technical, I asked, I was told it was not waverable, nor a variance. So, say, or piece. Not being part of the urban growth master plan and. Being zoned as it is, you know, you look at it. It's not necessarily ag is developed. It's. It is something else and the setback went necessarily. We didn't feel like it. Had to be honored along that boundary, but we got to figure out. How to go around that you're losing a decent amount of. acreage developable area that we're supposed to be increasing all our densities on. If that is a setback that we can't get around. You're saying. You're saying it's, it's permitted use and they are zone. Say, yeah, yeah. Well, I guess we changed them a little bit ago. They're in an a B zone and they're at an outdoor recreation facility. That's a conditional use. Okay, thank you. The 100 foot setback is, or it's not a requirement. It's a recommendation from the urban growth master. So. And I would say the recommendation isn't setting stone yet, but I'm sure lawyers will weigh in on that one. Right, so I think it's incumbent upon the applicant to demonstrate how they're meeting. The comprehensive plan, the urban growth master plan, and if that particular element is not met. Something that they think is appropriate here, then they need to express that to the commission and then the commission will make the decision about whether that needs to be adhered to or not, or if it's a different distance because of those circumstances, whatever they provide to you, are you lady in the witness? Well, I mean, first, 1st statement was he didn't really know what was going on. So I'm trying to help trying to help. I'll take it. Okay, well, how okay, I did ask. Could not be a waiver so then is it just a discussion that the planning commissioners can have? It's not a technical waiver, but we can. Work through it. Okay. We'll see. That's that's a huge advancement from last week. So we're making progress already. I'm not sure all fronts are going to like that progress. I mean, you're asking the commission who put that requirement in place. To not apply it here. I mean, they've got a lot of recommendations in place that as I go through this little tighter wall, I might have a big waiver list. I don't know 1st. 1 is fine. All right. Okay. All right. Any other questions. All right. Thank you. Thanks. Any public comment. All right, let's bring it back to the committee. I think we have a direction. Madam chair, I'll move for the recommendation of postponement plan. M. J. D. P. 25 dash 50. Can break the 7th of July. Plan M. J. D. P. 25 dash 50 can break subdivision. With the noted conditions. Concerns and recommendations. 2nd. All right. Motion's been made in 2nd. Any question to that motion not all in favor. We're unanimous. Thank you. Okay. Next. Okay, moving on to page 5 of the agenda. We have M. J. D. P. 2551 subdivision blocks. The lots 1 through 12, the hub on East Maxwell. This is also in conjunction with the zone change. This is this is similar to development plan. Um, this is, um. This is similar to development to what we've seen recently along Maxwell. We have East Maxwell down here, rose street. Stone Avenue and Cal me. So, this subject property is basically the whole block to the Northwest. Was the. The Maxwell that we saw earlier in the year. And then beyond, that's the more recent development we've seen along Maxwell. The purpose of this plan is to depict a multifamily residential structure in support of the requested zone change from a medium density residential are 4 zone to a downtown frame business B to a zone. The applicant did submit revised plans on Tuesday and you should have a. Revised staff report in your in your packet. Regarding the requirements not met. There's anything else we'll get to that. Regarding the requirements not met there are 2 remaining. Number 1 is to denote the plat cabinet and slide of the previous plat. Number 2 is to include include the soil type location type and location on the tree inventory. There are no waivers identified at this time or requested. Design considerations. Number 1, consider creating a larger Plaza space on the corner of Rose and Maxwell to accommodate more pedestrian. So, this corner down here. Continue Maxwell street traffic, calming ball bouts that were depicted on adjacent project. The Maxwell, so that would be. On the stone Avenue Maxwell side over there. Number 3 address sanitary sewer capacity. Um, questions and concerns number 1, discuss the type and location in proximity to road street of garage entry system. Number 2, confirm use of onsite compactor number 3. What is the proposal for stormwater management? Number 4, check existing and proposed layer management in CAD and clean up plan. That's from division water quality number 5. There is a known stormwater concern on Maxwell street clarify where the final site storm sewer will tie into the existing system. Number 6, how will the existing sanitary sewer system be accessed for the proposed development? Number 7, a consolidation plat will be required prior to construction. If approved, it is multiple lots and number 8, discuss the place builder criteria. And then we have 8 standard sign offs. The 1st is provided that the zone changes approved by the urban county council number 2 engineering and then traffic engineering forced urban forester, open space, environmental quality, postal service, and then finally connect all correct all noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met hearing. And with that, I'll open it up to you all for discussion. We have questions for staff. I don't like it. All right. Thank you. Oh, sorry. Applicant hold on. Zone change. All right. Jeremy young planning staff. I'll be covering the zoning component of M.A.R. 2 514. Um, it is for roughly 2.7 acres, um, along Maxwell and Rose. Um, place type is downtown development type is high density residential. Um, and as Mr. Cheney said, uh, it is a request to rezone from our 4 to B to a, which is a downtown frame zone. Um, the applicant has done public engagement. It was, um, a meeting was held August 27th at the public library. Mr. Crime attended, um, there were, um, concerns about size of building, uh, traffic, you know, potential effects on the, the neighboring properties. Um, and, um, staff has requested additional information concerning, um, streetscapes, uh, pedestrian accommodations, um, specifically along, uh, Calvin Avenue and stone. Um, in, in regard to, um, activation of the, of the public space and making it more, um, condoning or not condoning, but, um, promoting of pedestrian activity. Um, additionally, we've, uh, requested more information about, um, the possibility of possibly retaining any of the significant trees. I know that on a development of this type, it's, it's quite difficult, especially in the center of the project where, you know, you're digging down, um, you know, for underground parking, but, um, just more information on the possibility of saving any of the significant trees, uh, on the perimeter would be, um, was requested, um, and, um, questions regarding, um, compatibility with the adjacent properties, um, specifically with the H1 across Rose street. So if you have any questions, um, I'd be happy to answer them. Any questions about the zone change? Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Now we'll have the applicant. Okay. Good morning. And, um, is the microphone floating around Jeremy? I like to walk. Yeah. Do I need to, uh, unmute this or it doesn't matter? Good morning. Good morning. Brandon gross here on behalf of the applicant. Um, I have, uh, Jihad with vision engineering with me, um, to go over this. Um, so what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna break this up a tad. And then I have, um, the development team has come down from Chicago to meet with you guys today. Um, so I have Olivia and Austin and Nate, and so we have, they have a brief five minute presentation that we plan on giving this afternoon to the zoning committee. But since you guys get left out all the time, um, if you would like, they will come up and give that to you. So you get a little bit more background. Once I'm done going through some of the, um, items in the list, um, as you, um, sorry. So I'm going to walk up here. So on the requirements not met, um, we're down to just to clean up items. Um, I think the, um, developer team and vision did a good job of knocking out what we had. So we're down to basically clean up items on those, on the design consideration. Um, they're going to talk a little bit. It's hard, it's hard to see with a flat development plan, all what's going on. And even myself and the staff who have been doing this for looking at the details. So I'm going to give you a little bit of explanation on the development plan to help tell you what's going on. So, um, the first item is the ground level is going to have townhomes and it's going to have amenities. And so, um, we're going to have a slide that shows, but there will be, I believe, four townhomes here. There will be a couple here. This will be open amenity space. This will be more open, um, as David suggested. And so we provided him with some information, but this corner, this is the rooftop. Not necessarily, it'll be kind of like an entryway. So there will be more space for pedestrians in that area. And then there'll be some more townhouses here. These items here are actually setbacks. And so this is a, like, for example, a 23 by 24 setback. So once you get to that second level, the second level is going to divide the townhouses from the multifamily apartments above. And so there will be a break with materials and texture. So when you're walking down the street, you'll have the two level will be one type. And then once you go above that second level, it will then be multifamily. And these will be wells that actually go up the entirety of the property. So it'll look like three buildings rather than one big solid line. And that's hard to tell when you just look at the flat, um, the flat screen. And so that's one thing I did want to point out to you. Then these are going to be open air courtyards, which you've seen on other plans. And that will start after the garage structure. So right now, the plan is there'll be one level of underground parking, then two levels of surf, not surface, leveled parking in the building, which will be in the center. And then once that ends, it will then open up into an open air courtyard going up the balance of the property. So that's kind of just general highlights. And like I said, the presentation they'll give will give you a little bit more information. Right now, we're proposing an entry here for the parking and an exit here. So the parking exit entry won't be two way, it'll be one way only. And they'll be using a system similar to what my office uses at Central Bank, which is it automatically opens when it senses your car is close, which is great. So when I'm coming down South Broadway, turning into my parking garage, by the time I'm actually making my turn signal and turning, the gates are already open and I just pull right through. So that they will use a similar system to that, David, because I know there's a question about whether or not this could possibly queue into Rose Street. And so we think that will keep that from happening. But we'll discuss more with you on that. So that was design consideration. One was the plaza. Two is the bulbs. I've discussed with the client, I pulled the plan from the Maxwell that shows those bulbs. And for everyone, what that is, is that would mean we would bump out here, and then you'd have parking and then bump out. And so the parallel parking would have gaps between the parking. You could put trees and other things in those items. It's a traffic calming measure. And so that's on our list of things to look at from a design standpoint. Now, design consideration three, plan question three, five and six all relate to stormwater and sanitary sewer. We're in the field right now working on our capacity studies. The sewer will likely tie into multiple locations. And we're aware that we may have to do some upgrades in this area for stormwater. And so we should know the next few weeks once vision is done with that study, where all that lays out. But we're confident that we're going to be able to work through that item. We talked about plan question one, the access to the entry. The compactor will be on site. It will be located in this area here. But it will be on site, it will be interior to the building. So there will not be exterior dumpsters. Then we're at the number four, that's just a cleanup item for vision. Number seven, yeah, we're aware we'll need to consolidate all these lots, because if not, then we have a whole bunch of variances we need. And so we'll consolidate in this one big lot once we're finished. And then on the place builder criteria, I think a lot of the unanswered questions will be discussed by my clients in a few minutes. And so I won't bore you with all the details. But at this point, that's kind of the overall plan. And if you have any questions for me before I invite them up to speak, introduce themselves and speak with you. Any questions? Thank you very much. If you guys want to come up, introduce yourselves. And then Paula is going to put together your little presentation, so you can flip through it. And I know you like the mic. I do like to walk. I like to walk as well. And so this will go front and back. And then this will, and it may not, I don't know if it will work with the PowerPoint, but you can walk around too. Yeah, so if you don't mind introducing everyone, and then I'll hover. Good morning. I'm Olivia Paprik. I'm with Core Spaces. We have Austin Pagnotta and Nate Castillo, wherever he is behind me, who's our architect here. This is a very similar presentation to what we actually showed the neighborhood groups on the 27th. We've made a couple additions just for clarity, but we'll just run through it this morning. Try to keep it as brief as possible for any additional questions and comments. Or should I be pointing? I can walk. I can stand back there at the microphone if that's easier, so you don't have to push the button for me. Try now. Yep, there we go. Perfect. Thank you. Okay, so we'll just start out real quickly. For those who don't know Core Spaces, we are a national developer, vertically integrated. So we actually do develop, own, and operate, as well as acquire properties across the country. These are just some statistics here. I'm just kind of showing that we do provide a variety of different developments all across the country and some of the awards that we're very proud of as part of some of those developments. We like to show this slide as well, just kind of showing where we're at around the country. I like to show this particularly because as we get into the design, we really focus on the design of each location that we're developing in and make sure that we are identifying with the community and with the area that we are developing in. We are not a cookie cutter developer that copy and paste across the country. So this kind of shows where we're at all around the country and how many properties we actually might have in the same state. But if you were to actually look at them, they all vary by design. We're very proud of that. And we just wanted to show, too, the two highlights we have here in Lexington. We are here in town. We own and operate those buildings currently. The first one was the Hub Lexington Upper. This was 492 beds and delivered in 2019. This one, we wanted to showcase, one, because of the retail we were able to put on the first floor here and two, because this one actually, we believe, brought in some of the inspiration from the bluegrass country, our country's industrious and rich history, as well as the architecture and aesthetics of the upper and just kind of blends new and old here, but a little bit different from our second property, which is the Hub Lexington Limestone. This was a little bit larger at 566 beds, but also provided some retail and was delivered a year later in 2020. This, I think, showcases how, as a slightly different area of Lexington, it's a little bit more modernized, a little sleeker, and kind of works with that area. And so as we're moving into the design that Nate will kind of walk through, you'll see how in this particular location that we're proposing to have the development on, it does adjust the design itself to accommodate the neighborhood. And like you said, we just wanted to show these ones to show that we are not new to Lexington. We wanna be here. We're long-term holders. We like to make sure that we're paying attention to what the community and the city wants to see. And so we'll be doing the same here with our proposed development. So I'm gonna hand it off to Austin to talk a little bit about the market. Yeah, thanks, Olivia. So briefly, one of the things Olivia mentioned was just the, us being long-term holders and investors. I think that's a really important point. Obviously we were here, we presented to some of you six years ago on Hub Upper and Hub Limestone to get those projects approved. We worked with the community and we still own those today. So when we think about investing in the community and building these projects, we really take pride in what we do because we do hold them for the long-term. And that's why we'd like to get out in front of the neighborhoods early and try to incorporate as much feedback as possible. And one quick note on that, the plans that we're going through today haven't been updated to incorporate any community feedback yet, which Nate will go through in a minute, but we are looking at changes from that meeting that I think we can commit to some now, but we're still working on other changes behind the scenes that we're not sure if we can get to pencil yet, but we are already starting to make changes from that. So quickly, I'm not gonna go into depth on this, but just very high level from a university growth standpoint, obviously we all know that the university has grown significantly over the past four years, added roughly 3,500 students, which is causing a huge pressure on the demand here on housing, single family homes, university housing, pretty much everything. There has not been a lot of supply added in that same time period, but something that is important to understand from a go forward perspective is that over the next four years, if UK's freshman class stays exactly the same as it is for 25, 26, assuming they don't grow this anymore, which they might grow, but assuming it stays at 6,900, they'll add another 3,300 students over the next four years, assuming no growth in the freshman class. And that's because they have much smaller graduating senior classes that are getting replaced by now a freshman class of 6,900. So without the freshman class growing, they're adding another 3,200 students. If it does continue to grow at a 3% rate yearly, then they'll add another 4,500 students. So from a supply and demand standpoint, that's why we're back today. And we like to give that background because that's gonna put even more pressure on the housing supply than there is today, especially if there is not significant supply added to offset that demand. And we won't go through this. I'm sure everybody knows about population growth here, but I just wanted to add that a little bit more color on the university growth. Hi, Nathan Castillo, DLR Group, the architect on the project. We already talked a little bit about the site. So we're all aware where that is, just adjacent to campus on the northeast side. These are just some views from each of the corners, just to kind of get context, because that's super important to our design and how we approach the building. Just some high-level metrics. We're about 983 beds. We're trying to park the project at about 40% to 50%. This is a new slide from our community meeting. I think some people had a hard time understanding kind of the massing, and Brendan did a great job of explaining the light walls. And this kind of breaks it down a little bit further. So each on Rose and Maxwell and Camilla, we have these large light walls that are setbacks in the buildings. And that was done intentionally to break this big, massive building up. So it appears like three to four buildings on one block. So that shows that we have 24 by 26 foot light walls that set above that level two where the townhomes are located. And then you can see in the central courtyards there that those are all open to sky from level two and above. So that was very intentional in breaking down the scale, trying to respect the context in the neighborhoods. This is the overall site plan, just kind of furthering what Brendan already talked about with the pool deck and main entry being on Maxwell and Rose. And that was done intentionally. It's right adjacent to the kind of the gateway to campus. There's that nice University of Kentucky sign right across the way, large open space. We're trying to create some adjacency with that main entry, creating a nice, large plaza space there at the corner. Also the crosswalks there. So it kind of made a little more sense to locate that entry there. And then the townhomes and amenity align on Maxwell. We have the townhomes on Rose. This is a little bit, yeah. Can you go back to where we're planning to do the lobby now, updated lobby location? Yeah, so there was some comments that came out of the community meeting that suggested that we flip the main entry from Maxwell and Rose to Maxwell and Stone to be adjacent to the newly development that's coming in across the street on Stone Street. So that was something that we're gonna look at. We're gonna study and continue to consider. So something to think about on where that entry makes the most sense. And some of that was in regards to the pool being located at that corner. And that's just kind of how the internal circulation works with the core and the entry. So that pool deck would also flip to the opposite side of the building as well to try to respect the neighborhood across the street. And that will be updated in our next plan. So that's something that we can commit to, the entry being flipped and the pool being flipped. So in that next plan update, that will be flipped. And this just takes a closer look at that ground floor plan with, if you imagine sort of this floor plan flipped a little bit. I think we'll have to study the trash and loading because we really wanted to keep that out of main public view. So locating that on Stone was intentional as well to kind of keep that tucked away by the garage. So if that lobby flips, it'll be on Stone. So will that elevator core in the pool above would also flip. But this takes a look at the townhomes on Stone Avenue. And then on Rose, and we'll show some 3D images of that. But that was really intentional to try to relate to the context and be respectful of the neighborhood, bring in an extra level of detail and thought and adding stoops and stairs and things that make it a little more pedestrian friendly. This is just a view from Maxwell and Rose at the main entry. You can kind of see that trellis above signifies where that pool would be for the pool deck. We've added some images. This is new from our community presentation to try to just reiterate kind of the light wells and the kind of the breaking down the scale of the building. So this just spins around. This is still looking at the main entry here, but you can kind of see how we've struck a datum line at the top of the townhomes and really articulated the base to have an extra level of detail and pedestrian friendliness. And then we kind of have that belt line above level two that breaks down that mass with additional brick volumes that are signifying the multifamily above. This spins around. This is still on Maxwell. So that would be all activated amenity space facing Maxwell Street. And then two townhomes there on the corner of Stone and Maxwell. But as we discussed flipping that, those townhomes would flip to the right and the entry would flip to the left. Just some elevations that kind of show Maxwell, the two main streets, Maxwell and Rose, but kind of those light wells and how it kind of recedes in the background and trying to break down those volumes further. So on Maxwell, it essentially appeared like four volumes. In Rose, it appeared like three volumes above the townhomes. And then I'll let Austin speak a little bit how we can incorporate some historical elements into the development. So just very quickly, this project here was a development we did in Madison, Wisconsin. Madison, Wisconsin, we had a lot of neighborhood feedback that they liked the facade on Gorham Street here. They liked the brick. They wanted to keep it. It's been there for a while. It wasn't necessarily historic. Planning Commission didn't recommend we preserve it, but we worked with the community to tear these bricks down, sandblast them, refinish them, and then put them back up on our building in a very similar pattern. So this is during construction. We were going through the process and kind of reintegrating a lot of those key elements that you experience on the pedestrian level so that hopefully as you're walking downtown, it's not a significant change, especially with how we did the light wells here, which is what we're also doing on Hub Maxwell. So this shows the construction of it. And then if you go to the next slide, this is the after. So all of these bricks were the original bricks, refinished, sandblasted, and then incorporated into the new development on the ground level. So from a pedestrian experience, people loved it and we incorporated it into that ground level experience. So how does that relate to what we're doing today and kind of what we're thinking about? So similar situation here. We're not in a historic district. These are not historic buildings, but what we want to do is preserve the pedestrian experience of walking down Maxwell or Rose especially, or you're adjacent to the historic district. So how do you pay homage to that and make sure you're not disrupting it fully? So we're coming into this and saying, we're looking at things and we presented this during the neighborhood meeting and we're asking for feedback on anything else that we're missing that we're not catching here that we should incorporate into our ground floor level. And we're going to do a similar thing, which is let's take these bricks, let's take these cool patterns and kind of replicate them. And this stone is going to be included to refinish them and then incorporate them into our ground floor townhomes around our building. So from the pedestrian level or from when you're driving a car down Rose Street or Maxwell, all you can see is 20 feet up anyways. And this is what you'll experience. Very unique, thoughtful townhomes at that level. So if you go, here's the first pass at it. Again, we're very open to feedback here. This is where we love community engagement, involvement, what are we missing here? How do we incorporate it better? Again, this street is facing the historic district. So we're trying to pay a lot of homage and make sure that pedestrian experience stays the same, even though this isn't in the historic district. And you'll notice that brick patterning we're including. You'll notice the stones. So we're going to use the original and then replicate on the other townhome so that it kind of will stand out that way. Doors, Juliet balconies. So we're pretty excited about this and we're going to continue to iterate off of it so it doesn't feel so cookie cutter. We want to make sure we're really taking feedback from the neighborhoods on this, but just wanted to go through this a little bit. Sorry. Yes. Yeah. So if you go back, thank you. So if you go back to the pictures, yeah. So here, this is the Juliet balcony and you can see that there's, it's like a little small place to stand. There's not a lot of room to like go out on a balcony and like, you know, disturb the environment. But there's, you can open your doors and, you know, have a coffee next to the balcony. So if you look at our new development, the same concept here. So there'll be a door here, Juliet balcony on the actual town home. So same thing. Exactly. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. I think, yeah. I think there's some of those on North Limestone. Some of those older buildings on North Lime, you can essentially, it's a way for second floor people to get air and circulation. Just clarification. Some cities are doing vertical gardens. Is it space for growing potted plants outside or? That is not the intention at this time. So that would be an operable door at the railing. And then on the adjacent windows, we picked up on some of the historical context with the kind of the more white muttons and kind of breaking down the scale of the windows on the lower levels. And then you can see above where it's multifamily. It becomes more of a traditional punched window. So adding that extra level of detail, just in the fenestration patterns, bringing in some of the whitewashed wood at the entry as well. That's white at entries is very prominent. So we did want to introduce that at the entries as well. And then adding things, subtle things like colonial style lights, wall sconces. So really kind of bringing that scale down and making it kind of a warmer, more inviting pedestrian experience along the walkways. And then you can see at the landscape in the front, we've elevated the landscape with a limestone base. So many of the homes in the area have the limestone base for a couple of first couple of feet. So that's intentional at the kind of the planner areas as well with kind of the wrought iron black fences as well. Yeah, when you think about the townhomes, this was really hard to explain. These light wells, these setbacks that break the building up, that kind of combined with the experience of the townhomes during the neighborhood meeting because we didn't have that other view. But when you think about this in combination with, maybe show one of the light wells real quick. With the step backs, and I think the other one does a good job too. Yeah, and you're walking on the pedestrian level. It's not gonna feel like this massive building. It's gonna feel like a nice, activated ground floor experience with nice breaks in the building as you go around the building. And I know there's a lot of comments about landscape. So this would all be native landscaping. We would come back with street trees and all local native plants that feel like it's part of the context. Yeah, question, thank you. Since you kind of brought it up, above the so-called Juliette Balcony, there's what looks like glass in that well, light well. Is that an open space that people can get out to? What's the glass partition, glass wall for? Yeah, so you're speaking about this area, I believe. And you saw it more on that ground level view. So this is a guardrail. So for safety, if anybody were to get out there, they wouldn't be able to fall. But then I think what we'd be looking at is there would be two living rooms on the back wall here where we would provide balconies for those people. So this is really a safety feature. And whether that's glass or steel. So I understand that. I was just wondering if, yeah, is it usable open space? Yeah, yeah. So we would activate that, not for the full space, but for partial, we would look to do that. Did the neighbors comment on the size of the building in general? How did they feel about the height and all that? They did. They did comment on the size of the building. And that is partially why we were looking at how we were breaking it down and kind of showing that we can use the design to actually show the intent of how we can make it feel like multiple buildings in one. Obviously, this building here, I think we're proposing 85 feet. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you. And so that's a little bit taller than the other two properties that are being developed currently. But we feel that was contextual with the new ones going up. And we didn't have the other renderings we're showing now, which we hope helps break down how we're thinking about it. It's not just one square block here. It's broken up into multiple facades that kind of help that pedestrian experience. And as Austin mentioned, there were quite a few comments just in general that we're looking into. We just can't commit to any changes currently. Except for the lobby. Except for the lobby. The way that we can look to break it down even further and maybe carve away at either the design or the actual materiality to make it feel a little softer is what we're gonna be looking into. You mentioned 85 feet, I think. I'm counting. Is that eight stories? Yes. I heard something early on as far as underground or maybe even underground parking. Yes. There is one level of underground parking. Okay. And then one level of surface parking? One level of surface parking and then one level of raised parking. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. So that's tucked behind the amenity level that you're seeing here. So we'll keep that front face of Maxwell really activated and the parking will be tucked behind it. The underground parking, is that essentially the same as the surface parking? Yes. Space? Okay. Yes. Is this all student housing? It's geared towards student housing, but we do not, we would always rent to anyone. The plan here would be for it to be, you know, young professionals, anyone can live here. But typically due to the location adjacent to campus, it tends to go towards students. We do have like studios, micros, one bedrooms, two bedrooms, which in an environment like this, where it's close to downtown and close to campus, you might see a larger mix. We have multiple projects that might lean more like 75, 25 between student and market rate renters. And we by no way restrict in any way. How's that worked out with the first one you put in here? Is that the way it worked out? Upper and Limestone are both probably like 90 plus percent students right now. This one I think is a little bit different of a location because it's kind of more closer to downtown versus those two. But yeah. Your biggest plan all over the country is to keep these buildings how long? We hold for as long as we're around. I mean, we're holding for the long term. We have capital that allows us to hold. So at least through the depreciation stage. Yeah. I mean, we're. Yeah, exactly. Thank you. And I think that that's an important point when you think about the townhome experience and the setbacks and kind of how we're designing this building because we are long term holders and investors. And we want to put the high quality materials into it because we're going to be responsible for it for the entire hold, which isn't very typical of developers. Well, my concern are REITs. It goes into a REIT plan and then it becomes sold. So if this can continue the way it is, not only will the maintenance be better, but the opportunity to keep the kind of clients you want stays higher. Yeah. And we still own Upper and Limestone so you can see that, right? So it's not like we're just saying we still own those two projects that were built years ago. Well, I just think that's the way you sell it to the neighborhood too. Because it makes a difference. Any other questions for the applicant? Thank you all. Just this is a comment. I just appreciate your sensitivity to the neighborhood. We've been through several iterations of some of those other developments going in and First Pass was a very contemporary on one that totally did not fit the historic neighborhood. So thank you. Appreciate that. Thank you. Okay, thank you so much. Okay, Brandon. Yeah, appreciate everyone. I don't know if there's anyone here from the public that wants to speak. But if not, do you have any questions? I think right now the staff's recommended approval. We would love to stay with that with the consideration that our plan is after today, getting your comments and then getting this afternoon's comments. I already talked with staff about getting a meeting with our side and them to work through some of the place builder criteria that we may either be deficient in or need to supplement our materials. So we will be making some tweaks. And as my client said today, they're committed to move that entry closer to the Stone Avenue rather than being close to the Ellsford neighborhood. So thank you very much. All right, thank you. And I think as Mr. Gross mentioned, I don't think we have any public comment. Okay. All right. So we'll bring it back to the committee. If there's no further comments, I'm ready to make a motion. Anybody else on the committee have a comment? Okay. Madam Chairman, I move for approval of PLN NJDP 2551 with the conditions as recommended by staff. Second. Motion has been made in second. Is there any questions? Is that all in favor? Aye. We're unanimous. Thank you. Anything else? Okay. Tracy, I guess it's for you as much as anything. Two things. One, help me understand looking through the agenda yesterday and so forth. You know, there's three or four plans. There was one plan that had a staff recommendation. None of the others did. They obviously had technical, but none of the others had a staff recommendation. I'm just curious as to how that occurs. education for me going forward. Sure. So, our first step is the technical committee review committee and so at that point the staff is making a recommendation to the technical committee and then the technical committee makes the recommendation to you. So, that's historically the how we've worded it on the agenda. It should have always said technical committee recommendations. There's one of them. Which one is it? It's on page three. Yes, so in that case the staff made a recommendation regarding the development plan and the technical committee wanted to make sure that it was clear that they were referring to the Commission the two waiver issues. They weren't making any kind of recommendation on the two waiver issues. Those would be coming to you all. Maybe we need to continue talking later because that's not real clear to me. The second thing and this would be I guess as much as anything just a request with us looking at these things going forward with the waivers and so forth. The revised report did have a some language as to what the waiver need was as opposed to just referring to the article and zoning ordinance article. On the agenda is it possible to have a brief description to help us going forward? And are you asking just what is the section of the ordinance they're waiving? So, you're right on our revised plan recommendation for the Gaines Way Shopping Center we listed what those two things were. We can do that on the agenda. Are you asking for more information beyond that? Well, at least that. I'll take as much information as you'll give me, but at least on the agenda itself. You know, what are we talking about? So, thank you. All right. Anything else from staff as far as we're good? On that last item on the agenda, the Boonesboro Manor, the FRP 2514. The applicant has indicated that they want to make changes to the plan, removing the need for the waivers and for access to lot 1N. So, they're gonna revise their plan and go back to Tech Committee and without the need for a waiver so they could potentially be approved by Tech Committee instead of moving forward to the Planning Commission. Likely not. They're gonna try to redesign so they don't need waivers. Well, they've been to Tech Committee and then they postponed and now what they're asking is can they revise and go back to Tech Committee. So, they're just gonna start over without, without need waivers and they... I was meaning with Planning Commission. Are we still, when do we think we will see them on Planning Commission agenda? They won't. They'll just go to Tech Committee. Okay. Right. Well, it'll still be on the agenda because you've had it on the agenda. So, what we'll have to have you do is accept the withdrawal of the waiver and then that will trigger the plan going back through Tech Committee. Otherwise, they, we never want a plan to just disappear off the agenda without you all taking some action because it's confusing for anybody participating in the planning process, right? We want to be transparent about what's happening. That'll be our first time doing that. We're all learning, right? Right. Yep. Okay. Nothing else? Meeting adjourned. The plan that finally gets to you. And it feels something to hurt so bad. And suffer just enough to sing the blues. So turn them on, turn them on, turn on those sad songs. When all hope is gone, why don't you tune in and turn them on. Turn them on, turn them on, turn on those sad songs. When all hope is gone, why don't you tune in and turn them on. Sad songs they say so much, sad songs they say. Sad songs they say, sad songs they say. Sad songs they say so much. So turn them on, oh turn them on, turn on those sad songs. When all hope is gone, why don't you tune in and turn them on. They're reaching to your room, oh I can feel their gentle touch. When all hope is gone, no sad songs they say so much. Sad songs they say so much, sad songs they say, sad songs they say, sad songs they say. So we try to visit a lot of our specialized units. The K-9 unit is part of the Special Operations Bureau and they do some fantastic work and everybody wants to know about the dogs. So let's go in, have a talk with some of the handlers and see how the K-9 unit operates. Hey, we are here with K-9 Supervisor Sergeant Rob Frazier and K-9 Raya. Thank you for joining us today. Thank you for having me. And we're going to talk a little bit about the K-9 unit here at the Lexington Police Department. I think you've already made a friend. I did. You did. So Sergeant Frazier, you have inherited quite a bit of history when you came to this unit. How long have you been out here? Four years. Four years. So Lexington was one of the very first K-9 units in the country in this particular region. Back in 1962, then it was the Chief E.C. Hale chartered the first K-9 unit. That's when it was Lexington City Police Department. And he had sent an officer out to Missouri to receive weeks and weeks of training and came back and started the unit with about six officers, I think, at the time. They built the first facility in 1964, second one in 1968. How long have you been in this particular building? This kennel was opened in 2020. Okay. And this is state-of-the-art? Probably a little bit different than where you came from? We'd like to think so. Okay. All right. So you've got all the dogs are housed here? Yes. Okay. All right. So we're going to spend some time today talking with a couple of your officers. Can you tell us a little bit about who they are and what they do? Sure. I've got Officer Chas Grider, who's our head trainer right now. He also can deploy on the street and he operates a bomb K-9, so he can also run events and that kind of stuff. We've also got Officer Pat Murray, who used to be a trainer here, but he is also an officer on the street and handles a narcotics K-9. All right. We're looking forward to it. We are here with K-9 Officers Chas Grider and Pat Murray. Thank you all for joining us today. Thanks for having us. Could you all tell us a little bit about how you came to be in the K-9 unit? Sure. Yeah. I came in in 2011 after I had been on the street for about five years, and I'm coming up on year 14 on my second dog, who's had a good, long career, and it's been great. Yeah. I came to the police department in 2012. When I got here, I knew exactly what I wanted to do. It was K-9. So, I spent four years on patrol, went to K-9, and I've been here for, I don't know, probably 10 years now. All right. So, Sergeant mentioned how many dogs we have. So, how do we use the dogs? What are the purposes and what do we have? Patrol dogs? We have different types of dogs? What do we have? Yeah. So, our primary three things are going to be patrol dogs, narcotic dogs, and bomb dogs. Obviously, we use dogs because they smell better than us. So, the main breeds that you're going to see is, obviously, your typical German Shepherd. That's what everybody thinks about for a police dog. We also have Belgian Malinois. We have a Dutch Shepherd, and then, obviously, you saw Raya. We have lab, floppy-eared dogs sometimes for single-purpose use. Okay. What is the difference between the three, the patrol, narcotics, and bomb? So, the patrol dogs, they're going to be used primarily whenever we need to find subjects who have committed crimes, whether it's someone's broken into a building, they've committed a violent crime, and we need to track their odor and find them for the sake of us and the public. Your explosive dogs, I'm sure Chaz can go into it more. This is going to be for your big events to make sure that we don't have any explosives hidden. And then, narcotics, primary use is going to be for vehicles that we suspect there's narcotics inside. So, I know we talked about the different types of dogs. Are they multi-purpose, or do they just, if that's a narcotics dog, that's just a narcotics dog? Yeah. No, most of our dogs are dual-purpose. We'll have, I think we have two single-purpose dogs. One was Raya, who you spoke with earlier. Yeah, I spoke with her. Yeah, I spoke with her. She's an explosives dog. That's her only job. We have another narcotics detection dog, and he's with our narcotics unit. He's only narcotics. All the other dogs are dual-purpose, which means they'll do patrol, which is apprehension, finding people, finding evidence. And they're also either narcotics or explosives. My dog, Kato, is a dual-purpose patrol and bomb dog. So, he does both, and we're considered a regional asset. So, we go outside the county. We may go to the Derby. This year, we helped out with Derby. Anywhere they need us for explosives detection, we'll go when we're called. Well, I think that's a good point, too, to talk about how we assist other agencies. Because having some of the resources that Lexington has, even with other units as well, that smaller agencies that just don't have those capabilities, we can help out with that. And that's been very beneficial in a lot of different ways. So, tell us a little bit about how we get the dogs. How do we select the dogs? How do we train the dogs? And then I guess we've got to select the officers, too. So, tell us a little bit about the process. Super important processes. When we look for the dogs, we look for a dog that is environmentally sound. We need to make sure that they're comfortable in every environment, because it can be really weird out there in the world, right? And you're dealing with something with the mentality of a toddler. So, you want them to be very environmentally sound so they don't get afraid of things. We look for dogs that have great noses. Pat mentioned their best feature for us is their nose. It helps us locate what we need to find, whether it's missing people, criminals, narcotics, explosives. So, we always look to make sure that they have a really good hunt drive and that they hunt and that they have really good changes and they can find things. First, it's just the ball, because they know what a ball is. It's easy to see. So, we make sure they have a lot of ball drive and that they hunt methodically. So, they're always checking and looking and hopeful that they're going to discover something, because that makes the training take a lot better than if they didn't care. Well, as far as, like, the training process, I know when we talked a little bit about the history of the unit, I know it was at the time it was patrolman Kenny Watson had gone out to St. Louis and received weeks and weeks of training. He actually retired as assistant chief. But he was the first one that brought a lot of that back from another department. So, I'm assuming that we have to train the officers and the dogs. So, we do. We have two in-house trainers as of now, myself and Officer Joey Lasardi. Joey has just stepped into that role. I've received training from a place called Tar Heel Canine in North Carolina, certified trainer there. So, we train all the dogs in-house. So, we'll go get these dogs green. They don't know their name. They don't know anything. We bring them back, and we teach them everything there is to know about how to do their job here for this city. And that's it. It's pretty efficient. It can take a little longer, but sometimes you want a good product, right? You don't want a mass-produced product. So, we pride ourselves on that here. We have excellent dogs, and we have excellent handlers. When we go into the handler selection, we want to see a good cop first. Were they good on the street? Were they active? Did they get along with the community? Are they professional? Did they have a good head on their shoulders? And then we have an interview process by which they come down. They have an interview, a selection, and that's how we select our officers. You're obviously getting the right ones because I noticed when we walked in out here, we noticed a lot of trophies and a lot of things that the unit has fared well over the years as far as competitions and things like that. And I know we depend on patrol. Thank you. We depend on K-9 a lot. As a matter of fact, just a few weeks ago, there was an abandoned building that we got an alarm at, and it was empty. We knew no one was in there. But K-9 went in, and they were able to clear it so quick. And I remember years ago when we talked to K-9, they were talking about how quickly a K-9 could clear a building looking for someone compared to multiple officers. And the success rate of them finding suspects that the officers would have missed, spending way more time. The suspects, the officers spend way more time to search, and their success of finding all the suspects is rarely 100%. The K-9s, it's a fraction of the time, and they have almost 100% success rate. So for officers that want to put in for the K-9 unit and get selected, how do you pair the officer with the K-9 personality-wise? Right. And so typically what we'll do is we'll just say, Handle this dog, it works, it's a good dog, and we can just pair it with anyone. If we do see a personality conflict, we might say, This dog might need a senior handler, somebody that's going to be getting another dog, their second dog or third dog. And so we just kind of play it by ear and just see what works best. But we make sure that everyone gets the most out of the training and that we have a good team that goes on the street to make sure everybody's safe in the community and at the play day, like the dogs and the handler. Outstanding. You all do great work, and I know everybody on the police department appreciates you, and I'm sure the citizens of Lexington certainly appreciate you being there too. And everybody loves to see it. When they see the vehicle pull up, it says K-9 on it, they just don't want to come over and pet you, right? Pet the dog because that's probably not the kind of dog you want to pet. Preferably not. All right. Well, thank you all very much for joining us this month and educating the community a little bit about our K-9 unit and what a stellar unit it is and the good work that you do. Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you. So, Bajie, it was so nice learning more about the K-9 unit here at the Lexington Police Department and what they provide to us on patrol and just the community. Outstanding resource and so much history behind it. And as you mentioned, when we first started the episode, we are at the Roy H. Martis K-9 Center. That's the name of the facility. A lot of history on that. A very sad story. Officer Martis, he was a 13-year veteran with the Lexington Police Department. And the officers earlier had talked about how we help other agencies. And Martis and his bloodhound, he had a bloodhound at the time, her name was Amanda. She was actually pregnant. And they were actually searching and assisting with a manhunt for a suspect that had escaped jail and was also a murder suspect. And they actually located the suspect. And unfortunately, they were struck by a gunfire during the event in Mercer County. And that was on August 23, 1985. And it was a very sad day in the history of the Lexington Police Department. But his legacy carries on. And now the building is named after him. And every officer that's ever worked for K-9 certainly is very aware of his contributions and what he did to the unit. And there's also a street named after him, where the old facility before this one was built. Yeah. So join us next month for another episode of Your Lex PD as we continue to explore specialized units here with the Lexington Police Department. Your Lex PD. 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So welcome, and thank you so much for being here. Thank you for having me. First, I wanted to ask you about the significance of 811. So, well, it's two different questions. So, it is a construction project. And I say that, but in your yard. Any time you're digging, you're moving, it's buried below that. So, 811 is a way for folks in the area who come out and locate your stuff. You know where that stuff's at. So, you're weekend. Right. So, before you dig, what could happen? Sure, you could get into. Some of them are enforced by different agencies. The Public Service Commission could issue to get things located. But, you know, you could. Which we certainly don't want that. It could cost you. Take out your own water line and go inside. How convenient would that be? And things like the fiber. Internet and fiber now. So, if you cut the fiber line. But just. So, if somebody's going to do any. In their yard, around their house. 811. And can they. By phone. Yeah, so about. Are done online. And that's Kentucky811.com. Yeah, and we'll take your phone. 365 days, we're available. But, yeah, you can go online and do it. It's very simple. And so, should we call. Or should big development. If you're digging, the law defines digging. Any kind of machinery or hand tools. And we're trying to prevent stuff like this from happening. Looks like a trencher maybe got into this. Or a bucket. This is what we're trying to prevent. So. And all the major utilities around us. With a color code system. By going to our website and saying, like, blue is water. Is yellow. And that's what they locate it with, is yellow. That way, when you start your digging. That's great. 811. How long do they have to. The law requires that you have to wait. Excluding the date that you make the request. You can dig on Thursday. So. Yes, you're clear. Or will they just not. The response, which is required. One-on-one. And they'll send you a notification. Or something. There's something. Back and forth. So you'll know you'll hear. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It's another tequila sunrise Staring slowly across the sky He said goodbye He was just a hired hand Working on the dreams he planned to try The days go by Every night when the sun goes down Hello District 2 neighbors. I am standing in front of the Black and Williams Gymnasium The Black and Williams Center in the District. You may remember from our last tour Inside the Black and Williams Center The resources that are offered in the center. Well today we're talking about the Black and Williams Center. Why don't you come inside with me And take a look at all the resources That are offered in the Black and Williams Center Facility in the 2nd District. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 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