# Technical Review Committee - June 24, 2026 > Auto-transcribed civic record · Committee · June 24, 2026 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/6811 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/6811?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2026-06-24 - **Body**: Committee - **Last revised**: June 24, 2026 - **Length**: 41,121 words - **Speakers**: Renee, Chair > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** Audio from the official Granicus video was auto-transcribed with OpenAI's open-source Whisper large-v3-turbo model, run locally by The Lexington Times. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude. Verbatim wording may contain errors. See [methodology](https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/about/methodology) or [report a correction](mailto:editor@lexingtonky.news). --- ## Meeting Overview The Technical Committee convened on June 24, 2026, at 8:30 a.m. ET in the Phoenix Building, 3rd Floor Conference Room. The meeting's agenda included 15 items spanning farm report plans (FRP) and major development plans (MJDP), covering a range of residential, commercial, industrial, and institutional projects. The committee took a total of 15 votes across all agenda items, with 11 items approved and 4 items postponed for further consideration. No public comments were heard during the meeting. Of the items acted upon, approved projects included PLN-FRP-26-14 (Glenmore Farm, Inc.), PLN-FRP-26-15 (Little Beginners Child Development Center), PLN-FRP-26-16 (40 Acres and the Mule LLC), PLN-MJDP-26-44 (Burke, Hockensmith, & Maggard, Lot 2), PLN-MJDP-26-48 (Samuel H. Bryan, Tract 8), PLN-MJDP-26-49 (The Church of the Good Shepherd), PLN-MJDP-26-47 (Southside Technical Center Property), PLN-FRP-25-9 (Ball Homes & Lillian Hunt Property), PLN-FRP-26-9 (Turner Property & Meadowthorpe Community Business Center), PLN-MJDP-26-37 (Coldstream Research Campus, Unit 4, Lots 23, 24, & 31), and PLN-MJDP-26-39 (Lexmark International, Section 1, Lots 9 & 10). Items postponed included PLN-MJSUB-26-4 (Lane Allen Park, Lots 2 & 3), PLN-MJDP-26-43 (Wolf Run Industrial Park, Lot 1), PLN-MJDP-26-45 (Beaumont Farm, Unit 10, Lot 12), and PLN-MJDP-26-46 (South Farm Marketplace, Lot 1). No presiding officer was identified in the meeting record. ## Votes and Decisions All votes at the June 24, 2026 Committee meeting were taken by voice vote. No roll call votes were recorded, and no individual vote counts were available. **Approved Items:** - **PLN-FRP-26-14, Glenmore Farm, Inc.** — Passed by voice vote, with conditions including removal of the landscape examiner's approval (item 3) and bike and pedestrian approval (item 7). [timestamp: 0:05:56] - **PLN-FRP-26-15, Little Beginners Child Development Center** — Passed by voice vote, with conditions including a change to note 16 under requirements not met to reflect flood protection elevations, and removal of conditional sign-offs for items 3, 4, 6, and 7. [timestamp: 0:12:08] - **PLN-FRP-26-16, 40 Acres and the Mule LLC** — Passed by voice vote, with conditions including removal of sign-offs for items 4, 6, and 7. [timestamp: 0:15:52] - **PLN-MJDP-26-44, Burke, Hockensmith, & Maggard, Lot 2** — Passed by voice vote with no noted conditions. [timestamp: 1:13:00] - **PLN-MJDP-26-48, Samuel H. Bryan, Tract 8** — Passed by voice vote, with conditions including addition of note 9 under requirements not met to denote HOA maintenance of the detention basin and open space, and removal of the bike and pedestrian sign-off (item 7). [timestamp: 1:55:50] - **PLN-MJDP-26-49, The Church of the Good Shepherd** — Passed by voice vote, with conditions including removal of sign-offs for addressing (item 4), DEQ (item 6), and open space (item 8). [timestamp: 2:06:40] - **PLN-MJDP-26-47, Southside Technical Center Property** — Passed by voice vote with no noted conditions. [timestamp: 2:19:58] - **PLN-FRP-25-9, Ball Homes & Lillian Hunt Property** — Passed by voice vote, with conditions including removal of sign-offs for landscape (item 3), addressing (item 4), DEQ (item 6), bike and pedestrian (item 7), and green space/open space (item 8). [timestamp: 2:23:57] - **PLN-FRP-26-9, Turner Property & Meadowthorpe Community Business Center** — Passed by voice vote with no noted conditions. [timestamp: 2:26:47] - **PLN-MJDP-26-37, Coldstream Research Campus, Unit 4, Lots 23, 24, & 31** — Passed by voice vote, with a condition to include an open space exhibit meeting zoning article requirements. [timestamp: 2:41:24] - **PLN-MJDP-26-39, Lexmark International, Section 1, Lots 9 & 10** — Passed by voice vote, with conditions including removal of design consideration notes 2 and 3. [timestamp: 2:48:49] **Postponed Items:** - **PLN-MJSUB-26-4, Lane Allen Park, Lots 2 & 3** — Postponed by voice vote, with amendments to requirements not met and removal of item 10 to design considerations. [timestamp: 0:38:39] - **PLN-MJDP-26-43, Wolf Run Industrial Park, Lot 1** — Postponed by voice vote with no noted conditions. [timestamp: 1:02:49] - **PLN-MJDP-26-45, Beaumont Farm, Unit 10, Lot 12** — Postponed by voice vote with no noted conditions. [timestamp: 1:23:11] - **PLN-MJDP-26-46, South Farm Marketplace, Lot 1** — Postponed by voice vote, with conditions including addition of a design consideration note requiring thermoplastic for all paint stripe markings, and removal of addressing and DEQ sign-offs. [timestamp: 1:38:31] ## PLN-FRP-26-14: Glenmore Farm, Inc. [timestamp: 02:35] The Committee took up discussion of PLN-FRP-26-14, a matter involving a proposed subdivision of property located off Gentry Road, brought forward by Glenmore Farm, Inc. Key speaker Gary Cam presented or addressed the item during the discussion. The application was flagged as having outstanding requirements that had not yet been met, specifically relating to compliance with land subdivision regulations and the applicable zoning ordinance. These unmet requirements formed the basis of the Committee's review. - **Applicant:** Glenmore Farm, Inc. - **Property location:** Off Gentry Road - **Outstanding requirements:** Compliance with land subdivision regulations and the zoning ordinance Despite the noted deficiencies in meeting regulatory requirements, the Committee ultimately **approved** the item. *Note: The available record does not include detailed debate, specific conditions of approval, or additional speakers beyond Gary Cam. Readers seeking the full discussion are encouraged to consult the meeting video beginning at timestamp 02:35.* ## PLN-FRP-26-15: Little Beginners Child Development Center [timestamp: 06:37] The Committee took up this discussion item concerning the Little Beginners Child Development Center, with the central issue being the dedication of Stone Road to public right of way. **Key Speaker:** Ethan Smith **What Was Presented:** Ethan Smith presented the item, which centered on the proposed dedication of Stone Road to public right of way as part of the development review process for the Little Beginners Child Development Center. The presentation noted that several requirements had not yet been met, specifically including outstanding notes and certifications that were identified as deficiencies in the application materials. **Concerns Raised:** The outstanding requirements flagged during the review included various notes and certifications that remained incomplete or unresolved at the time of the discussion. These unmet conditions were identified as part of the formal review process for the dedication of Stone Road. **Outcome:** Despite the noted outstanding requirements, the Committee approved the item. The approval of PLN-FRP-26-15 moves the Little Beginners Child Development Center application forward, though it is unclear from the discussion record whether the outstanding notes and certifications were resolved prior to the vote or are to be addressed as conditions of the approval. ## PLN-FRP-26-16: 40 Acres and the Mule LLC [timestamp: 13:13] The committee took up a discussion item regarding a subdivision proposal submitted by 40 Acres and the Mule LLC. The application, designated PLN-FRP-26-16, involves subdividing a property into two lots. John Hill was the key speaker on this item. The discussion centered on outstanding requirements that had not yet been met by the applicant at the time of review. Specifically, two deficiencies were identified: - **Plan title correction** — the submitted plans contained a title error that needed to be addressed. - **Building line depiction** — the plans did not adequately depict the required building line. Despite these outstanding requirements, the committee ultimately **approved** the item. ## PLN-MJSUB-26-4: Lane Allen Park, Lots 2 & 3 [timestamp: 16:25] The committee took up discussion of PLN-MJSUB-26-4, a major subdivision application concerning Lane Allen Park, Lots 2 & 3. The proposal involves subdividing the subject property into 28 single-family residential lots. Matt Carter was the key speaker presenting on this item. The discussion centered on the application's current standing with respect to applicable requirements, with the committee noting that the proposal does not yet meet all necessary conditions for approval. Specifically, two outstanding requirements were identified: - **Vegetative buffer zone:** The applicant has not satisfied the requirements for a vegetative buffer zone on the property. - **Street improvements:** Required street improvements associated with the subdivision have not been met. Given that these requirements remain unresolved, the item was not advanced for a recommendation or approval at this meeting. The agenda item was ultimately **postponed**, allowing the applicant the opportunity to address the outstanding deficiencies before the matter returns to the committee for further consideration. No additional details regarding a specific return date or conditions for resubmission were reflected in the available record for this item. ## PLN-MJDP-26-43: Wolf Run Industrial Park, Lot 1 [timestamp: 39:13] The committee took up a discussion item concerning a major development plan application for Lot 1 of Wolf Run Industrial Park. The matter centered on depicting a campground that had previously been approved by the board of adjustment. Key speaker Steve Harris presented the item to the committee. The discussion focused on the fact that the application had not yet met the requirements necessary for approval. Specifically, the outstanding issues identified included: - **Compliance with land subdivision regulations** — the application had not satisfied applicable requirements under those regulations - **Compliance with the zoning ordinance** — the application similarly had not met the relevant zoning ordinance requirements Because these requirements remained unmet at the time of the meeting, the item was not in a position to move forward for a decision. The committee did not take final action on the application. **Outcome:** The item was postponed, pending resolution of the outstanding compliance issues related to land subdivision regulations and the zoning ordinance. ## PLN-MJDP-26-44: Burke, Hockensmith, & Maggard, Lot 2 [timestamp: 1:03:24] The committee took up discussion of application PLN-MJDP-26-44, submitted by Burke, Hockensmith, & Maggard, concerning Lot 2. The item centered on a proposal to depict automobile and truck repair and service use on the lot. **Key Speaker:** Matt Carter presented or led discussion on this item. **Issues Identified:** Prior to approval, staff identified a number of outstanding requirements that had not been met, including various certifications and notes that were needed as part of the application package. The specific certifications and notes were flagged as deficiencies in the submission. **Outcome:** Despite the noted outstanding requirements, the committee approved the application. --- *Note: The available record for this item is limited. Specific details regarding the nature of the certifications required, any debate among committee members, or conditions attached to the approval are not reflected in the provided data.* ## PLN-MJDP-26-45: Beaumont Farm, Unit 10, Lot 12 [timestamp: 1:14:08] The committee took up discussion of application PLN-MJDP-26-45, concerning Beaumont Farm, Unit 10, Lot 12. The matter centered on a proposal to depict a building and associated parking on Lot 12. **Key Speaker:** Brad **Discussion:** Brad presented or addressed the item, which involved outstanding compliance issues with the proposal. Specifically, the application was noted as not meeting the following requirements: - Compliance with land subdivision regulations - Compliance with the zoning ordinance The nature of these deficiencies formed the basis of the committee's discussion, with the unmet requirements indicating that the proposal, as submitted, could not move forward to approval in its current form. **Outcome:** The item was **postponed**. Given the outstanding compliance issues with both the land subdivision regulations and the zoning ordinance, the committee did not take final action on the application at this meeting. ## PLN-MJDP-26-46: South Farm Marketplace, Lot 1 [timestamp: 1:24:16] The committee took up a discussion item concerning the South Farm Marketplace, Lot 1, identified as application PLN-MJDP-26-46. The matter centered on a proposal depicting a building and a reconfiguration of parking on the subject lot. Jared Hutchison was the key speaker on this item. The discussion focused on the application's current standing with respect to applicable regulatory requirements, specifically noting that the proposal had not yet met compliance standards under the land subdivision regulations and the zoning ordinance. These outstanding deficiencies formed the basis of the committee's deliberations. No additional speakers or specific debate points are reflected in the available record for this item. Given the unresolved compliance issues with both the land subdivision regulations and the zoning ordinance, the committee did not advance the application at this time. **Outcome:** The item was postponed, pending resolution of the identified regulatory requirements. ## PLN-MJDP-26-48: Samuel H. Bryan, Tract 8 [timestamp: 1:40:17] The committee took up discussion of PLN-MJDP-26-48, a major development plan submitted by Samuel H. Bryan for Tract 8. Matt Carter was the key speaker presenting on this item. The plan depicts 41 townhomes along with a common open area. As presented, the proposal did not meet all applicable requirements — specifically, the plan was noted as not in compliance with land subdivision regulations and the zoning ordinance. Despite the outstanding compliance issues identified at the time of discussion, the committee ultimately approved the item. *Note: The available record for this agenda item is limited. Additional details regarding the specific nature of the subdivision or zoning deficiencies, any conditions attached to the approval, or the substance of committee debate are not reflected in the provided materials.* ## PLN-MJDP-26-49: The Church of the Good Shepherd [timestamp: 1:56:22] The Committee took up application PLN-MJDP-26-49, concerning a proposed parish hall addition to The Church of the Good Shepherd, a place of religious assembly. Katie Beard was the key speaker presenting on this item. The application sought approval for depicting the parish hall addition on the site. As presented, the application had outstanding requirements that had not yet been met, specifically: - **Compliance with land subdivision regulations** - **Compliance with the zoning ordinance** These deficiencies were identified as part of the review process prior to the Committee's consideration of the item. Following discussion, the Committee approved the application. No additional details regarding the nature of the debate, conditions attached to the approval, or the resolution of the outstanding compliance issues were provided in the available record. ## PLN-MJDP-26-47: Southside Technical Center Property [timestamp: 2:07:10] The committee took up discussion of PLN-MJDP-26-47, concerning the Southside Technical Center Property. The item was presented as a discussion regarding the depiction of the current site layout in support of a requested zone change. Matt Carter was the key speaker on this agenda item. The discussion centered on whether the application met the necessary requirements for the requested zone change, with staff noting that outstanding requirements had not yet been satisfied — specifically, compliance with land subdivision regulations and the zoning ordinance. The committee ultimately approved the item despite the noted deficiencies in meeting those requirements. *Note: Additional details regarding the specific nature of the debate, any conditions placed on the approval, or further context from the discussion are not available in the source materials for this item.* ## PLN-FRP-25-9: Ball Homes & Lillian Hunt Property [timestamp: 2:20:31] The committee took up case PLN-FRP-25-9, concerning a proposal by Ball Homes related to the Lillian Hunt property. Macy Downing presented the item, which centered on the dedication of right-of-way for sidewalk improvements along Versailles Road. As part of the review, staff identified outstanding requirements that had not yet been met, specifically compliance with land subdivision regulations and the applicable zoning ordinance. These unmet requirements were noted as part of the discussion prior to the committee's consideration of the item. Despite the outstanding compliance items, the committee ultimately approved the case. ## PLN-FRP-26-9: Turner Property & Meadowthorpe Community Business Center [timestamp: 2:25:08] The Committee took up discussion of PLN-FRP-26-9, a final plat application for Turner Commons associated with the Turner Property and Meadowthorpe Community Business Center. **Presentation** A representative from Palmer Engineering presented the item to the Committee. The discussion centered on the final plat review for Turner Commons and the outstanding requirements that had not yet been met prior to the meeting. **Outstanding Requirements** At the time of discussion, the application had not achieved full compliance with the following: - Land subdivision regulations - Zoning ordinance requirements These unmet requirements were the primary focus of the Committee's review, as full compliance with both is a standard condition for final plat approval. **Outcome** Despite the noted outstanding requirements, the Committee approved the final plat application for Turner Commons. No additional speakers, dissenting votes, or specific conditions attached to the approval are reflected in the available record. --- *Note: The available structured data for this item is limited. Readers seeking fuller detail on the specific nature of the compliance gaps or any conditions placed on the approval are encouraged to consult the meeting transcript beginning at timestamp 2:25:08.* ## PLN-MJDP-26-37: Coldstream Research Campus, Unit 4, Lots 23, 24, & 31 [timestamp: 2:27:19] The committee took up discussion of application PLN-MJDP-26-37, concerning Coldstream Research Campus, Unit 4, Lots 23, 24, and 31. The proposal involves the construction of a grocery and pharmacy delivery station along with associated parking on the subject lots. **Key Speaker:** Tony Barrett Tony Barrett was the key speaker on this item. The discussion centered on a proposal to develop the delivery station facility, which is intended to serve grocery and pharmacy distribution functions at the Coldstream Research Campus location. **Requirements Not Met** At the time of the discussion, the application had outstanding compliance issues in two areas: - **Land subdivision regulations** — the proposal did not meet applicable requirements under the relevant land subdivision rules - **Zoning ordinance** — the proposal was also found to be out of compliance with the applicable zoning ordinance provisions These deficiencies were identified as part of the review process and formed a basis for discussion among committee members. **Outcome** Despite the noted compliance gaps with land subdivision regulations and the zoning ordinance, the committee ultimately **approved** the application. No additional details regarding conditions of approval, waivers granted, or the specific nature of the zoning and subdivision deficiencies are reflected in the available record. ## PLN-MJDP-26-39: Lexmark International, Section 1, Lots 9 & 10 [timestamp: 2:41:54] The committee took up a discussion item concerning a major development plan application for Lexmark International, covering Section 1, Lots 9 & 10. The proposal involves adding a building, parking facilities, truck circulation infrastructure, and stormwater management improvements to the property. The application was presented by Banks Engineering, who outlined the scope of the proposed development on the site. The plan addresses the physical expansion of the Lexmark International property through the addition of new building space alongside the supporting infrastructure necessary for truck circulation and stormwater management. At the time of review, the application had outstanding requirements, specifically noting that the proposal had not yet achieved full compliance with land subdivision regulations and the applicable zoning ordinance. These unmet requirements were identified as items that needed to be addressed as part of the development review process. Following the discussion, the committee approved the application. --- ## Decisions - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approval of PLN-FRP-26-14, Glenmore Farm, Inc. - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approval of PLN-FRP-26-15, Little Beginners Child Development Center - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approval of PLN-FRP-26-16, 40 Acres and the Mule LLC - **Motion** — postponed (0-0): Postponement of PLN-MJSUB-26-4, Lane Allen Park, Lots 2 & 3 - **Motion** — postponed (0-0): Postponement of PLN-MJDP-26-43, Wolf Run Industrial Park, Lot 1 - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approval of PLN-MJDP-26-44, Burke, Hockensmith, & Maggard, Lot 2 - **Motion** — postponed (0-0): Postponement of PLN-MJDP-26-45, Beaumont Farm, Unit 10, Lot 12 - **Motion** — postponed (0-0): Postponement of PLN-MJDP-26-46, South Farm Marketplace, Lot 1 - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approval of PLN-MJDP-26-48, Samuel H. Bryan, Tract 8 - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approval of PLN-MJDP-26-49, The Church of the Good Shepherd - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approval of PLN-MJDP-26-47, Southside Technical Center Property - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approval of PLN-FRP-25-9, Ball Homes & Lillian Hunt Property - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approval of PLN-FRP-26-9, Turner Property & Meadowthorpe Community Business Center - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approval of PLN-MJDP-26-37, Coldstream Research Campus, Unit 4, Lots 23, 24, & 31 - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approval of PLN-MJDP-26-39, Lexmark International, Section 1, Lots 9 & 10 --- ## Full transcript Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. you you Welcome to the technical review committee meeting of June 24th 2026 we're getting ready to get started if you do come up and speak make sure you speak into the microphone state your name and who you're with and that will get started we're going to start at the top of the agenda PLN FRP 2614 Glenmore Farm Incorporated. This property is located off of Gentry Road, which was originally a larger AR zone. The purpose of this plan is to depict track 1A, which was subdivided by deed on October 17, 1998, which is this portion here. It was cut out of the larger track of land. done by deed and not by plat per KRS. You're to record a plat to subdivide your property, and this wasn't done that way. It has now been transferred several times, so they're coming in to subdivide this by plat. So the requirement's not met. We need to denote that the KRS 100.292 plat's file pursuant to the section may be filed by the last transfer for E in the chain of title, including holders of deeds, which may otherwise be void under KRS 100.277. Denote steep slopes are present on site. Any development in these areas shall comply with Article 611 of the land subdivision regulations. Denote that no building permit shall be issued until a health department has issued a septic tank permit. Denote development shall comply with Article 19 of the zoning ordinance. addition of addresses on plan face, identify and label the sinkhole in spring on the property, depict note required floodplain information including regulatory flood elevation, regulatory flood protection elevation, and a 25-foot floodplain setback, depict the vegetated buffer, label street names. At this time, we don't have any waivers or design considered or other plan questions or concerns. but the staff recommends approval with the following sign-offs, engineering, traffic, landscape, addressing urban forester, department of environmental quality, bike and pedestrian planners, addition of utility and streetlight easements, and correct all note deficiencies as listed requirements not met here on. And I'll open it to you all to see if there's any other comments or questions. if anyone can be removed from this list for the sign off you can remove landscaping if no one else you can remove by compared as well if no one else applicant Gary Rowland, KM Sarvang. I don't have any questions or comments, but if anybody has any questions for me. Gary? Yes. Make sure that if you're using color like that, that it's reproducible in black and white. Okay. that may that light blue may not show up okay I change it all to black I tried to before I met my my large okay thank you all right anybody have anything else all right the staff recommends approval so the motions for approval of PLN FRP 2614 Glenmore Glenmore farm incorporated with the removal of number three landscape examiners approval of landscaping and number seven bike and pedestrians planners approval of bike trails and pedestrian facilities so moved all favor you want opposed motion passes Okay, we're moving down the agenda. We're moving to FRP 2615, Little Beginners Child Development Center on Stone Road properties. This property is located here off Stone Road. Then it passed the Dinos up in this way, and we have New Circle Road down here. We saw a development plan not too long ago for this property. We just did some revisions on it. This plat is here to dedicate Stone Road to public right away. With that, requirements not met. To note, all structures shall have a floor that is not partially or completely underground that is at least one foot above the elevation of the nearest downstream lid. sewage from plumbing connection below the floor shall be pumped and discharged into sewer sewer structure sewer line number two denote stone road on plan face three addition of maintenance note per land subdivision regulations number four depict drainage easements and add maintenance note number five additional street cross sections for stone road number six addition of private utility and agency inspiration. Number seven, addition of maintenance note for drainage. Number eight, correct owner certification. Nine, addition of surveyor certification. Ten, addition of urban county engineer certification. Removing the public acquisition certification. Eleven, correct commission certification. Twelve, remove development plan information, leaving setbacks and easements. This is a record plan. We do not need to have the information from the development plan. 13, addition of site statistics, including zoning and lot frontage, incorrect number of lots to one. A public right-of-way is not a lot. That's just a dedication of right-of-way. Addition of general notes for landscaping and street tree note for residential zone. Number 15, submit letter to withdrawal plan 2014-60F, final record plat that was started some years ago and was not complete. That's why they're here today with this plat. 16 provide floodplain elevations. This time we don't have any waivers. Design considerations. Review all the seller comments provided by the Division of Engineering. Plan questions or concerns. We have discussed how a lot is connecting to sanitary sewer. Number two is maintenance of on-site stormwater management defined. The staff recommends approval with the following sign-offs. Engineering, traffic, landscaping, addressing, urban forest, Department of Environmental Quality, Bike and Ped, Open Space, addition of utilities and streetlights, documentation of the Division of Water Quality's approval of the CAP, and number 11, correct all note deficiencies listed as requirements not met here on. At this time, I will open it to you all to see if there's any comments or questions or anyone can be removed as a sign-off of the plan. Cheryl, 16, can you change that to flood protection, elevation, not floodplain? Okay, environmental quality can be removed Landscape it to be removed as well Cheryl you can remove bike and pedestrian planner as well please And you can take the addressing off as well. Okay. If there's no other comments. As far as sanitary sewers, we did find the connection point, so it's good. Okay, so the comments about sanitary sewer under discussion discuss how lotting is connecting. We can remove that condition. that condition okay so we can remove the sanitary sewer connection number one under discussions or yeah playing questions and concerns anyone else no the applicant if you like to come up and speak Ethan Smith of Optic Engineering and Surveying. I don't think I have any questions unless you all have anything for me. I do have a quick question for you. Where the drainage easement is shown here, approximately, that's actually an old, inactive basin. I guess our question from water quality stormwater standpoint is just kind of what is your intent for this? Is that going to be changing in any way? Are you changing the flow characteristics in any way? So development plan-wise, I'm not sure. I'll have to get with the engineer on that part. For how it's working right now, it's conveying water from the subdivision to the north. There's a pipe on Kentucky utilities to the south of the park. We also didn't know how good that headwall was functioning. Yeah, yeah. When we were out there, it was good, but it's just conveying water from the subdivision to the north through the pipe to KU to the south. So I'll check with Steve to make sure, but as far as I know, it's just conveying some water through the lot. Okay, thanks. Anybody else? Thank you. Thank you all. all right the staff recommends approval so the motion is for approval of PLN FRP 2615 little beginners child development center with change to note 16 under requirements not met to flood protection elevations and the removal of sign-offs for three, four, six, and seven under conditional sign-offs. So moved. What's that? Oh yeah, and a discussion of sanitary sewer as well. So moved. All in favor? Is anyone opposed? All right, motion passes. all right moving along next plan um frp 2616 40 acres in the mule llc property this is located at 244 and 246 warnock street the purpose of this plan is to subdivide the subject property into two lots uh their existing structures on each of the lots um and so they're just coming in to subdivide this so each structure is on a lot by itself um under requirements under requirements not met um number one correct plan title to match the staff report number two denote lot one and two lot one and lot two number three depict the building line number four denote commission certification and number five produce a street tree check uh no waivers at this time no design considerations listed and under plan questions or concerns number one verify each lot has independent sanitary sewer connection number two are any amendments to the street frontage curb sidewalk street trees required or proposed then we do recommend approval with sign-offs engineering traffic engineering landscaping addressing urban forester environmental qualities approval of environmentally sensitive areas bike ped open space addition of utility and street light easements division water qualities approval of the cap requirements and finally number 11 to correct all noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met herein and with that I'll open it up to the committee for discussion environmental quality can be removed you can remove bike and pedestrian planner as well okay six and seven anybody else you can remove addressing please Number four. All right. Anything else? All right, is the applicant here? Hi, I'm John Hill. John Hill answering. I've gotten no comments. Willing to entertain questions. All right, have a good day. Thanks. Thank you. Okay. So staff recommends approval, so the motion is for approval of PLN FRP 2616, 40 acres, and the Mule LLC property, with the removal of sign-offs for number 4, 6, and 7. So moved. Second. All in favor? Is anyone opposed? All right. Motion passes. All right. Now we're moving on to preliminary development plan. MJSUB 26-4 Lane Allen Park, lots 2 and 3. purpose of this plan is to subdivide the property into 28 single-family residential lots a street right-of-way and one HOA lot this is Parker's Mill Road property fronts that this is where Lane Allen Road comes out and connects to Parker's Mill at an angle the development accesses Parker's Mill across the road from Lane Allen and showing two cul-de-sacs. Drainage generally runs through the middle. The property slopes from the plan north and plan south towards the center. And then they're showing HOA lot in the middle with the single-family lot around the outside of the property. this did go through his own change in preliminary development plan previously now they're in for the preliminary subdivision plan so under requirements not met number one denote no land disturbance construction clearing of native vegetation or mowing shall occur in the vegetative buffer zone invasive species may be removed by handheld equipment or a forestry grinder number two denote stormwater management sanitary sewers and public street improvements shall be designed and constructed in accordance with LFUCG engineering manuals. Number three, denote development shall comply with Article 19 of the zoning ordinance, and that's floodplain requirements. Number four, denote the development contains a portion of the Wolf Run Conservation Greenway Corridor as shown on the 2002 Greenway Master Plan. Maintenance of the greenway shall be the responsibility of the developer, an owner association, or the owner of the parcel which includes the greenway. Number five, provide street names. Number six, denote construction access. Number seven, denote source of contours. Number eight, denote private utilities. Number nine, clarify label line across the rear of lots 8 through 10. And that's this line up here. We just weren't sure what that is. Number 10, locate hydrants so they are greater than 43-foot radius to accommodate for fire apparatus, turnaround, vehicle clearance at the time of water plan submittal. Number 11, identify and label spring on property. Number 12, extend sidewalks out to and adjacent to Parker's Mill Road with the appropriate separation from the street. Number 13, depict all existing and proposed easements. Number 14, denote all required floodplain information. Number 15, provide stormwater design that conforms with LFUCG standards and regulations. And number 16, depict cross-section improvements for Parker's Mill Road, and I think that means half-road improvements on Parker's Mill. We have a later comment regarding that too. Under design considerations, number one, see all Acela comments provided by the Division of Engineering. Number two, provide two street name suggestions or addressing staff will assign. Number three, address sanitary sewer capacity. under plan questions or concerns number one discuss intermittent stream that crosses lots four five and twenty that's in this area here I believe it's four five and twenty here the the three lots in question number two discuss intersection improvements at entrance with Lane Allen there was discussion in our plan review that in the future when Lane Allen, if Lane Allen and Parker's Mill in this area is improved, that when that's made to tee in at a 90-degree angle to Parker's Mill, it may not line up with the proposed entrance to the subdivision. So we just wanted to discuss that. Number three, discuss half-road improvements along Parker's Mill Road. Number four, discuss stormwater management proposal. Number five, did the street cross-sections match the standard cross-sections? At this time, we are recommending postponement. There's questions about stormwater detention and roadway intersection improvements. If the plan is approved, we have standard sign-offs for engineering, traffic engineering, landscaping, addressing, urban forest, or environmental qualities, approval of environmentally sensitive areas, bike ped, open space, Division of Water Quality's approval of the CAP requirements and finally to correct all noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met here. And with that, I'll open up the committee. If there's anybody that can be removed or we have any discussion. Quick discussion point on the spring. It's, yeah, we want that labeled, but we also want that researched a little bit. I mean, if that's going to be a constant source of water here, it's already a floodplain. You don't have much volume if it's already wet. So that makes us nervous about all the interior lots here. So it's not just about labeling the spring, it's about researching that spring and maybe doing some field evidence checking to see in different seasons or different conditions how it's behaving. Anybody else? On the sanitary issues, there was a topic brought up where you have the easement for the storm between lot 5 and 6, which could serve an unsewered area of 1911 Parker's Mill, if there would be a possibility of maybe just some discussion on if you would run a stub out there to try to pick up an unsewered area. And be sure to keep the cap out updated because this is in a low number. So you don't want to hit a waiting list. Yeah. All right. Any other? Number 10 about the hydrants and radius that can be put under design considerations more so than requirements not met. Okay. You pretty much covered my comments because you quoted what I have in SLO as far as stormwater manual sections that should be reviewed in more detail for this design. We have concerns about the amount of flow to this property from upstream areas and putting a headwall right at the rear of those two properties is a maintenance issue for long term. If it gets clogged, it's going to back up on someone else's property. There's no way for it to discharge. If it does get clogged, it's going to go into those properties adjacent. Anything else from the committee? What's that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The applicant want to come up? Good morning. Matt Carter, Vision Engineering. I kind of go in reverse order. What was your comment on the head wall? Was it on lot four and five? There's several concerns. For one, the location of that intermittent stream is not where that head wall is. So in order to reroute whatever flow upstream is, you would have to do work on the adjacent property. The concern is I think you're going to do two culverts at that location, and if they do get clogged, there's nowhere for the flow from upstream to discharge, and there's no easy way to access that. Okay, so upstream there's only one culvert. so there's like 100 acres plus upstream and the flow is over 100 cfs okay the flows 89 cfs and not based on the information that i have it's 89 cfs based on our drainage study we'll provide you our drainage study um it's not intermittent stream we've had uh we hired an independent company to determine that because you probably wouldn't believe us if we said it wasn't. So we hired an independent company out of Frankfurt, H&B, and they've done their analysis. They looked at areas that they determined were wetlands downstream where we're not doing construction. upstream they called it a non-jurisdictional stream because there's no defined channel there's no channel at all the field itself is just a giant swell with grass in it so there is no channel it's pretty obvious if you go out and look at it that there's no stream there to be intermittent it's got to be a defined channel for one. So, you know, when you see grass in it, it's... Okay, on your plant, it's labeled as Colonial Drive Tributary and Kentucky Geological Map Intermittent Stream Centerline. So, I guess... Okay, well, we will give you the report that was done on it. Does the report include the spring? Did HMB also look at the spring? Because then Eric could utilize that information. Yeah, I'll upload it to a cell, and then everybody can have a copy of the report. So, yes. As far as detention, we've met with engineering numerous times and talked about our intention is to all the water upstream is going in a pipe that bypasses the detention basin and discharges downstream of our detention basin. So none of the upstream water is going into our detention. The detention is only for, you know, what we're proposing. Is that labeled on here somewhere? Is there a stormwater line and easement labeled somewhere so we would be able to – so planning would know that that's happening? We've already done the construction plan. So we have the layout of it and the easements, and I'll add the easement to the. Yeah, we don't want any houses built on your drainage line. So, well, we've ran the easement down property lines, but we'll get you that. We'll add that to the plan. Right-of-way improvements, half-section improvements for Parker's Mill. I guess, in theory, we have no problem doing that, but our issue is we don't know what the final design for that road is. It's not just something as simple as take the same grade that's there now and put curb and gutter, you know, and just fall. We kind of feel like that profile of the road is going to change, and we don't know that yet. But we don't know when that will happen. A lot of times when there's a project that's pending, you know, within the next two years funded by the state, we can allow you to delay those improvements or not do them because the state has already committed to that. So at this point, my understanding from the MPO staff is there is a plan to improve Parker's Mill Road. There are no designs. There's no timeline. It could be 20 years. It could be five years. We don't know. But until then, the subdivision regulations require a collector street to be improved to collector standards. So, okay, so you're asking my client to build something and then. Happens all over. Yeah, and then potentially. Yep. It has to be tore out in five years. Or 20 years. It won't be five years. If it was five years, it would already be designed and in right-of-way or some other phase. It's at least 10 years out, probably more like 20 to 25 years out. We just don't know. So we have to factor in the safety of the people living there and everybody else on Parker's Mill where your new residents are turning right and left into the subdivision in the meantime and pedestrians. Okay. The fire hydrant location, I know you had commented about the cul-de-sac. It's kind of deceiving because on the plan we show a hydrant, but if we showed it actual size, you wouldn't be able to see it. It would be a little dot, so we kind of make it bigger than it actually is, just so you can see it. but we can easily make it 43 feet from the center point. Is the actual intersection of Lane-Allen going to possibly realign? No, you're talking about the southern approach going northbound? Yes. No, I guess we were just looking at it. It might be slightly askew with – I mean, that approach is askew as it approaches, but it looked like it might be slightly off-center where there would be a pretty big movement between – if you wanted to go through, I don't know what that offset is. Usually we keep it less than 10 feet. Center line, you see what I'm saying? That's what I was looking at, that you might want to move it over a scooch a little bit. And then as far as the signal itself, you'll probably do something sooner rather than later. I'm not sure you can even get heavy equipment through there without tearing the signal down at the moment. Low. Yeah, but maybe, yeah. So, yeah, I don't think it's even usually supposed to be a minimum of 17. I'd say it's closer to 14 or 15 maybe. And we were concerned with the cross section of the road at that entrance. It's not anything standard. It's not a 2% cross slope. It's probably closer to 5% or 6%. And so that was one of our concerns about widening the road now when we know in the future that's going to be. But, you know, we've kind of talked about that. Yeah, it'll be probably decades more likely, to be honest with you. It says, discuss street cross-section matches standard. Is that, I mean, we use the standard ones. Am I missing something? No, I just wanted to confirm that. Okay, we used what was in the subregs. Other than that, is there any questions I can answer for y'all? One last question regarding the road drainage. Mm-hmm. First of all, would this be a public street? Yes. Okay. Would all of the drainage from the roadway also go to the- Detention basin. Detention basin also? Yes, 100% of it. Which is essentially the floodplain, right? The- the interior portion there. I mean, that's where the floodplain essentially starts. I just want to make sure that we're not going to flood those interior lots. That's a lot of impervious area now going to that floodplain. We just want to make sure we're not going to flood out those lots. Yeah, we've done a study. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Normally at this point we wouldn't be finished with our construction plans, but we are, other than improvements to Parker's Mill. So we're very confident on the size of the basin, flood elevations, floodplains. Do you have a post-development floodplain identified? Does that mean you need to do a clomer? We have to do a clomer, and if this plan's approved, we're going to... You'll start that process? Yeah, I mean, if this plan is not approved, that means we've got to redo our design, which means I don't want to do a clomer two or three times, you know. So we've got to know this layout is approved, and then our clomer is ready to go. Well, I've just got to have approval on the plan, and we turn it in. Do you think we need a note on this plan indicating the clomer needs to be approved prior? Yeah. Yes, please add a note. prior to construction. Yes, yes. I'll bring it up. We are asking for waivers. I know they're not discussed here. We're filing street geometry waivers this Friday. And they have to do with just the entrance road only on the vertical curves and the grades within 50 feet of, I think you can't exceed 3% within 50 feet of the right of way. I don't know if y'all remember this but we discussed this when we were going through the zone change so we did design it once without needing any waivers and the subdivision couldn't be built it was just the grades were so extreme high that it just made it impossible so what we're going to ask for is we think minor, but I'll submit that on Friday. Do you have like a profile to go with that? Yes. Not just verbal notes? We have it designed, so I can, yeah, I can furnish the street profile. and then when you submit that you'll need to quote the specific section of the land subdivision regulations and then if it pertains to the design manual as well if you're all it sounds like you're wanting obviously construction plans are done you're wanting to move sooner rather than later you probably need to get an accroachment if you're going to need to modify that signal to get quick main you'll need to get with the transportation cabinet and get an accroachment permit for that modification yeah any improvements on the right away will be. And what our plan shows, what you see includes future right-of-way dedicated. Anybody else? Matt, anything else? No. Thank you. Alright, so at this time the staff recommends postponement. So the motion is for postponement of PLN MJSUB 26-4 Lane Allen Park, Lots 2 and 3, with amendments to requirements not met, the removal of number 10, or moving number 10 to design considerations, and the addition of add a clomer note to the preliminary development plan. So moved. All in favor? Does anyone oppose? Motion passes. Okay, we're moving on down the agenda. We're going to PLN, MJ, DP 2643, Wolf Run Industrial Park, Lot 1, Campground, Amended. To start with, do you all have your pictures and affidavit for your signposting on the property? If so, we need to have that submitted to Ms. Paula here. So we'll go ahead and get started. The purpose of this amendment is to depict the campground that was approved by the Board of Adjustments. This property is zoned I-1 for light industrial, and they went to the Board of Adjustments for ecotourism, and ecotourism allows for campgrounds, so they are proposing a campground on this site. This is Old Frankfort Pike, and this is Frankfort Court. They have an access point into the property with a welcome center and then a couple drive aisles to go around the property, and then a second one inside here, so then it connects up with this driveway. They are proposing several different types of campground layouts for RVs. So with that, requirements not met denote areas of alluvial soils will be developed in accordance with Article 6-11 of the land sub-regs. Denote no land disturbance, construction, clearing of native vegetation, or mowing shall occur in the vegetative buffer. Invasive species may be removed by hand, held equipment, or a forestry grinder. Correct note number 22 to read no building permit shall be issued unless until a final development plan is certified by the Secretary of the Planning Commission. Number four, provide dumpster enclosures and concrete pad details that comply with the dumpster service guide. Number five, fire apparatus access for one way must be a minimum of 16 feet. The plan currently shows 15. Number six, provide sidewalk from adjacent rights-of-way, perpendicular to the building, with no crossing of a drive aisle greater than 24 feet wide. Seven, provide number and location of bicycle parking. 8, provide 20-foot-wide landscape buffer immediately adjacent to and parallel with the Old Frankfurt Pike right-of-way per the Old Frankfurt Pike Landscape Corridor Ordinance 134.89. Number nine, upload open space exhibit to Acela and include open space requirements in the site statistics as a percentage. 10, commercial driveway entrance shall comply with the standard drawing. 3072, depict regulatory flood protection elevation and or flood protection elevation. Depict 25-foot building setback from the floodplain. depict vegetative buffer, add firm map information and date, addition of purpose of amendment note, addition of written scale, addition of adjacent property with dashed lines, 18 addition of adjacent property owners, 19 orient vicinity sketch to match drawing at 1 inch to 2,000 feet. 22 dimension all buildings walkways vehicle use area and points of ingress and egress 21 denote location and street cross-section on plan phase that's for both the old frankfurt pike and for frankfurt pike court denote building or board of adjustment date and approval of the boa 24-197. Label number for each campsite. Remove text from the middle of the plan to show camping layouts. Correct note 19 for fence around. It says outdoor storage area. I know on previous plans at one time they had proposed outdoor storage, and so I believe this was a note that was carried. And so if they're having camping sites, that's a different type of use. correct commission certification, complete outdoor lighting plan, denote driveways and parking to be paved. At this time, we do not have any waivers. Design considerations. See all Acela comments provided by the Division of Engineering. Two, a sanitary sewer capacity application is required prior to the issuance of a billing permit. Number three, label all utility hookups on plan face. Four, discuss walking paths shown on the Board of Adjustment adjustment application for ecotourism activity. There's a floodplain located in this area with some steep slopes. With the Board of Adjustment application, they had shown a path that came out of here and walked around this floodplain area. That was part, I believe, of the ecotourism activities on the property. Planned questions or concerns. Apparatus access must be an all-weather surface and fire support apparatus imposed loads. Does permissible hardscape support 75,000 PSI or 81,000 pounds? Discuss where potential connection or sanitary sewers will be located. Number three, has the Royal Springs Water Supply Protection Committee been contacted? Number four, address sanitary sewer capacities. Five, what is the proposed proposal for stormwater management? Number six, discuss who will own and maintain the stormwater management areas. Seven, discuss use of dump station per code or ordinances 1648E. Number eight, what are the circles adjacent to the Welcome Center? I have a large circle here and this doesn't look like one of the trees so we weren't sure what this was along with that. Remove pavement within the tree drip line for the walnut and chinkapin. Down here, we have a large chinkapin and the walnut. Over here, the paving needs to be out of the drip line of the tree. To pick location of retention easement that was released, there was a large retention easement that came along the back side here and it is our understanding that it was released but then there was a plot never done to show depict how that was released if there is any detention if it's reduced so we don't have that information um then the staff has recommended postponement. There are questions regarding the sanitary sewer disposal, conflict with tree, drip line and pavement, and the loss of the walking path from the Board of Adjustment approval. Should this plan be approved, we have the following sign-offs, engineering, traffic, landscape, addressing, urban forester, environmental quality, bike and ped, open space, fire, waste management, documentation of division water qualities, approval of U.S. Postal Service, and then correct all noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met herein. I was going to open it to you all to see if there's any other comments or questions. If anyone can be removed from this list, this is a sign-off. There's no comments. The applicant, if you'd like to speak. Did you have that? Hey guys. Steve Harris with the P-E-R-M-J-E. I want to kind of talk about some things. So the sanitary, our idea there is to actually tie in to a manhole. that's on the opposite side of old Frankfurt Pike. It's actually off the monitor, but it is on the bottom of that sheet. Our plan is to have individual water, power, and sewer to each of those individual RV stalls. Try to get a little more in-depth on that. Is each individual unit going to have a service that ties to something? Yes. So it will act as just a normal sanitary services? Yes, it is. This will be all private, right? It will be private, yes. And you plan on connection down here off Old Frankfort Court? Yes, it's actually Old Frankfort Pike. It's on the opposite side of the roadway. On the opposite side? Yes. Okay. And on the walkway, we can add that on. We actually have that drawn. It was turned off when we did this. I had a question about what that should be. Could we make this walkway out of mulch to keep that campground feel? What's your thoughts on that? I think it would need to be ADA compliant because it is a facility that's for people in the campground. And I'm not sure that mulch is allowed, but I know crushed stone is allowed, and there's specifics to that. Like, I think it's – they call out specifics. I think it's number 11. It's that real fine stuff, but just find out what that is. So that would be two things I think we'd be looking for is ADA compliance. and then the surface that's also ADA compliant. Okay. Just point to whatever you cite, whatever regulation you found on that. Okay. Or if you need help, I can help you with that too. All right. And if you plan to count the trail as open space, it'll need to be ADA accessible. Okay. All right. Thank you. So the two trees that were brought up, These are trees that we obviously want. These are awesome trees, and they would really bring this campground feel. It would just really, you know, like we love the trees. we are trying to come up with a concept here that works with everything. As far as the drip line, is that immediately under the edge of the tree, or is there a distance there? So I was actually in my comments in Excella, are those circles, are those the actual tree protection area, or is that a depiction of the actual size of the crown of the tree? So there's a tree protection plan that we did. Those are, are you talking about the little clouded edges on those trees? Yeah. Yeah, so those are our estimates of that canopy is what those are. Okay. I think what would help is using the formula for the tree protection area around each one, like maybe impose that first and then see where that puts you because I was curious about if those were actually the tree protection areas or just the tree. I got you. Typically, the formula is going to put you outside of the actual canopy of the tree. I'd be happy to meet you out there sometime if you want to look at it. I know Bird just reached out a few weeks back, and it's been crazy in my office. But that would be great. And then we can see actually what that looks like on the ground. because ideally we would want those fences put up and no construction happening in those areas. Right. What about the use of permeable pavement there to allow water to permeate through? I mean, that's always going to be ideal. Okay. But we just want to make sure we don't damage the roots. structures. Okay. As with the fire department and their vehicles, emergency vehicles, that was their question as to whether or not those permeable pavers are structurally all out. Yeah, anytime we have an alternative means of driving surface, that's just a question that we would have is it would need to be signed off by somebody that says, hey, it can support 75 PSI, 81,000 pounds, all-weather surface. So anytime I see sort of like pavers or grass pavers, that's when I kind of raise the eyebrow on that. Okay. All right. Yeah, and Steve, you might – there is – I know there's a company that does asphalt that's permeable, which would be a better – I mean, I don't know what – the pavers are stronger, but they also involve excavating. Yeah, I think it would be more – it might be more damaging trying to use the pavers. Okay. Right. Well, since we're talking pavers, let me add on real quick here. I assume the pavers are also to help with some of your stormwater quality, I would assume, to make some of that. But two little comments. I doubt it would go all the way to the core. We'd probably do a concrete apron there. And then I'm not sure if that would also work for the dumpster area. That's typically concrete. They can get into more of those details. But that was something that I kind of noticed there that I doubt that we would take the permeable all the way to the street there. We'd probably have a concrete apron. Gotcha. I think that's the engineering point. It's just because if it gets damaged, the utilities just have to put concrete back. So it's ended up just saying don't do it because of that reason. And then the easement for the retention, the call-out of it is a little bit vague where the limits are. We will make that clear. So, yeah, I can clarify that better. Thank you. Yeah, we'll make that clear. Yeah. As far as the other comments here, it looks like we had some, most of those are adding some notes or making some items on that site a little more clear. We can do that for sure. So if we are, if the trees are the only item that we really need to work through, could we look at a conditional approval here today so our recommendation is based on like either incorrect or missing information and generally the division of planning would not recommend approval until those things were corrected but it would be up to the committee I think I think if you're able to correct them and do it in a timely manner, it's possible to get an updated recommendation by subdivision, which is, is that right or not? Oh, okay. All right, gotcha. Okay. That's right. I forget. So the recommendation for postponement is regarding sanitary seal disposal. And so you have to show that on the plan, and it sounds like it's laterals and manhole and connection. So those are all things that would be, if you're comfortable with that being done in a week. Oh, a month. Oh, a month. They're not going to the thing. Okay. And then if you're confident with the tree drip line, you've said that you'll do the walking path. Are you confident that you can make that ADA compliant? Because when I look at those contours, cutting a trail into that. It's also in a floodplain. Isn't going to be easy to do. Scott, it's also in a floodplain. Yeah. Well, that's okay. We build trails in a floodplain. But I'm more concerned with when I look at a slope like that, how you come from where you're talking about. Even just running it parallel to those contours is difficult in that amount of space. And so there is a concern there, like how easy that would be to do, just looking at the grades that are there. so I think that's really what would change the recommendation from this committee to an approval yes so our trail is actually it's I can't really point it out but we do get down in that flood plain area there and we we pretty much we follow that and we gradually raise up it would be nice to see something more a little more concrete on the sanitary but he has to follow all the manuals and that's going to act as a private service only place it will affect us if you're getting outside of right-of-ways we will need to have of easements because, you know, when you have everything. Right, yes. Yeah. I guess back to Vaughn's question earlier, and just the stormwater question in general, I mean, have we discussed, like, what is the plan for stormwater management here? I mean, I know that was a comment, and Vaughn might know more to this already, but that's kind of an overarching comment of ours also is what is the general concept here for stormwater management? Yeah, sure. So our plan is to utilize this area that was labeled as a retention easement area and manage it there in that area. I guess you'll probably need to look at that a little more closely since planting is requiring a more impervious surface where they've paved lots. Correct. Yeah, so the parking spaces for the vehicles would need to be paved, and then your roadway isn't labeled as paved, but we assumed it is. Oh, you're talking about on the plan. Yeah, I got you. Right, but if you were planning, if your plan for stormwater was for those RV spots to not be paved, and now they have to be, Vaughn's point is that increases your impervious impervious and and potentially could impact your stormwater numbers i would think it would yeah sure yeah yeah and i think given the amount and and how this all correlates it would be good to come back before this committee okay with the changes that are requested so in in my opinion i think a postponement is the right call unless someone else feels differently i think that would be our recommendation okay okay yeah yeah it never hurts to ask yeah yeah yeah that's my plan yeah even when you do widen that 15 feet to 16 feet that's going to affect other trades as well right for our apparatus access i do have a question though on your plans you had shown like a small circle it looked like it was on the back side of all those rvs is that like a campfire area is each lot has its own fire pit? I was just kind of curious. Yeah, those, they won't have those, no. Okay. Yeah, because I saw the identifier for the type of spot, but I also saw that circle. I was just curious that that was fire pit, but no fire pit? Awesome. No, no fire pit. Thank you. Yeah, those are probably carryovers that should not be there. We'll get those off. Yeah, that was an old identifier of the parking stalls, RV stalls. I've got a quick question also. I'm with Waste Management and Scott Burton. The dumpster enclosure, so those are pavers leading up to that? as of now yes okay it would have to have a concrete pad 18 feet in length and 20 feet wide for a double dumps room closure and I've got you a guy here if you need one I brought one with me I can get you but also just mentioning you know once our truck leaves Frankfort Court it's considered private property and it's the state in here that construction of driveways to containers should be strong enough to support the truck load so we don't want to potentially cause damage to pavers you know in there turning around backing up doing all that stuff to us so I don't know if that's going to work or not but just something to think about okay All right. Anybody have anything else? Applicant, did you have any other questions? I do not. Thank you. Okay, thank you. All right. So the staff recommends postponement, so the motion is for postponement of PLN MJDP 2643 Wolf Run Industrial Park Lot 1. So moved. All in favor? Anyone opposed? The motion passes. Yeah, so asphalt is... Okay. All right, next plan, MJDP 2644, Burke, Hawkinsmith, and Maggard Lot 2. This is located at 1792 Atoma Drive. Let's see. Back out here. So this is Georgetown Road. Atoma comes off of Georgetown. This lot is the end lot in this row here. So you come off of Georgetown onto Atoma. This is an exit. You come around. The entrance to the property is here, and it's a drive-through. I believe it's oil change. I can't remember exactly from the pre-app, but the purpose of the plan is to depict the development of a minor automobile and truck repair and service on lot two. So there is the drive-through structure, than with some associated parking and dumpster down here off of the main entrance. Under requirements not met, number one, denote all buildings, paving signs, fences, walls, and retaining walls that are depicted described are required. So require a separate review and building permit from division building inspection prior to construction. Number two, amend note number seven to read landscaping shall conform with article 18 of the zoning ordinance. the Georgetown Road Corridor Ordinance 13389 Article 6-10 of the Land Subdivision Regulations and Tree Protection Ordinance. Number three, verify correct commission certification. Number four, denote Royal Springs Wellhead Protection Committee review and recommendation. Number five, denote source of contours. Number six, denote lighting plan that complies with Article 30 of the zoning ordinance. Number seven, denote building lines. 8. Include all pertinent notes from previous development plan 9. Provide updated dumpster enclosure and concrete pad details 10. Upload open space exhibit to Acela and provide open space and site statistics as a percentage 11. Dimension all driveways and walkways, including VUA and front yard 12. Commercial driveway entrances shall comply with standard drawing 307-2 number 13 update site statistics for lot two to list use as minor automobile and truck repair and service there are no waivers requested at this time under design considerations number one see all acela comments provided by the division of engineering number two the sanitary sewer capacity application on file will need to be updated prior to the issuance of building permits number three lot two currently does not have a sanitary sewer tap contact water quality tap on desk for process number four verify stormwater management capacity and quality requirements are met and locate on development plan under plan questions or concerns discuss which portions of sanitary sewer are public and private for private portions please provide a copy of maintenance agreement. Number two, address sanitary sewer capacity. And then we are recommending approval with standard conditions, engineering, traffic engineering, landscaping, addressing, urban forester, environmental qualities, approval of environmentally sensitive areas and greenways, bike ped, open space, fire, waste management, documentation of the cap requirements, U.S. Postal Service, and then finally number 13 to correct all noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met herein. And with that, I'll open it up to the committee for discussion. Matt? Matt? Good morning again. Matt Carter, Vision Engineering. I guess to start with, we've already gone to the Royal Springs Wellhead Committee, and it was approved. And they actually liked our design, which is kind of unusual for an oil or gas station. So I was happy to hear that. As far, let's see. The sanitary sewers, we'll have to update our application for this use and the size of it, so we'll get that filed. The sanitary sewers are all private. That was questioned, so it's all private. But they're asking for a copy of the maintenance agreement. Is this the agreement that was filed with engineering when we built the sewers? Do you know? Is the maintenance agreement you're asking for the one that was filed with engineering when we originally built the sewers? The main reason, I think, for the question was if it was going to be public versus private. If it's private, it's pretty much. Maintenance is on the developer. Yeah. Yes. Stormwater management. There is an existing stormwater basin, and this lot was designed to where it will be routed to that basin. And so the only lot that didn't go in that basin is the one that Goodwill is built on. That would be the lot to the north. But the lot we're doing definitely is going to the existing detention basin. When we submit our construction documents to engineering for approval of a land disturbance permit, we submit our, we'll have to submit a drainage study for the drainage improvements we're going to be doing. So we'll, at that time, engineering will have all our calculations. water quality, because it's in the aquifer, they do not want us putting anything in the ground. So we will be utilizing a, like a storm scepter type or water separator. So all the water off the parking will go into that. The sewer tap, probably what I'll do is get with Chris Begley and see what his preference is. We'll have two choices. There's a mantle that sits on this lot, and we'll either core it, put a tap in it, or tee the line, and I'll see what his preference is. We like the T better because they seem to work better, not have leak problems. Core in the manhole, sometimes you get issues with that over time. So I'll leave that up to Chris, and we're open to either one. Typically, we'll go either way, but it's probably usually better to do like you're talking, put the T in versus having the core of the manhole. Yeah. And so there is sewer to the property. It just doesn't have a lateral, and then the plan is that's part of our project will be to put that tap in. I do notice you have your own private sanitary sewer easements. I guess it's in that 15th. Yes. Your line is in that 15th. Yeah. With that, I'll be glad to answer any other questions you may have. This is more of a design consideration. just you know you're required a pretty minimal amount of bicycle parking just trying to make sure that the way that's shown it's hard to tell but make sure it doesn't impede the like when they're hooked up to the rack they're not laying over the sidewalk does that make sense yeah like at this scale it's hard to look at but yeah you've got room just depending on the type of rack that you use it's more construction you know document oriented but just keep that in mind so that it it helps people lock them up correctly does that make sense always cracks me up oil change Get your oil change on your bike. Yeah. Some of those people that work there get there on a bike. So anyways. But anyways, just, you know, if you can, do that, please. Oh, I did have one question. David, I was looking at your comments. Oh, I got you. So ignore it. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. Thank you. Any others? Anybody else? You good, Matt? Yeah. Okay. All right. So the staff recommends approval. So the motion is for approval of PLN, MJDP 2644, Burke, Hockensmith, and Maggard, Lot 2. So moved. Second. All in favor? Same one opposed. Motion passes. Okay, we're moving forward now to PLNMJDP 2645, Beaumont Farm, Unit 10, Lot 12, the B6P amended. This is Beaumont Center Drive. This is Beaumont going back into the residential area. This was the original Kroger's, which now has moved over onto the other side. But what we're looking at is a lot exactly to the opposite corner here, this property right here in front. I believe last month we worked on or we reviewed the new strip center here with additional retail shops. So now they're wanting to come in and add another retail shop on this lot here, which this whole lot is labeled as a detention easement. so they're wanting to depict a building of 3,900 square feet plus an associated parking on lot 12, which also has a large floodplain area on our flood maps. The requirements not met, number one, correct note number 16, to read all buildings, paving signs, fences, walls, retaining walls that are depicted, described, or required on this development plan shall require separate review and building permit from the Division of Building Inspection prior to construction. Number two, denote development in areas of alluvial soils will comply with Article 611 of the land subregs. Number three, identify and label centerline of blue stream. Number four, identify and label spring. number 9154 on lot 5. Number 5, describe how the identified usable open space areas are usable and accessible from the building. Include open space requirements in the site statistics as a percentage. Six, dimension all driveways and walkways. Seven, depict all existing and proposed easements. Eight, denote required floodplain and stream protection information. Nine, show the regulatory flood protection elevation and or flood protection elevation. Protection or anyway. Correct note number one to read, no building permits shall be issued unless until a final development plan is certified by the Secretary of the Planning Commission. At this current time, we do not have any waivers. Design considerations. One, see all the cell of comments provided by the Division of Engineering. Two, the sanitary sewer capacity application is required prior to issuance of a building permit. Three, sewer capacity in this area is low at the time. Number four, if the vegetative buffer is on the parcel, add the vegetative buffer zone maintenance. Note from the stormwater management manuals, plan questions and concerns. One, how will the existing sanitary sewer system be accessed for the proposed development? 2. Discuss who will own and maintain the stormwater management areas. 3. Discuss building location in a recorded detention easement on Platt R-868. The staff recommends postponement. There are questions regarding building in a recorded detention easement per Platt R-868. Should this plan be approved, the sign-offs are engineering, traffic, landscaping, addressing, urban forester, environmental quality, bike and ped, open space, division of fire, division of waste management, division of water quality for CAP, the U.S. Postal Service, and 13 correct all note deficiencies listed as requirements not met herein. At this time, I'm going to open it to the committee to see if there's any other comments or questions, if anyone can be removed at this time. If not, I'll open it to the applicant for him. Good morning. I'm Brad Boaz with CMW, and I think Cheryl did a good job explaining what we want to do is build a building here in a green space that's underutilized, obviously in a detention easement, and we know that's got to be modified through a plat. So we know that is a big hurdle to get over, but if that did happen, this is what we'd like to do. And so just want to see what questions, comments you folks have to do that. There is a – as part of the Building 10 amendment or Lot 10 amendment, we are extending a sewer to the existing sewer that's on the site. And so the idea is that this would tap into that line, which is a lateral line. And obviously we'll clean up everything with the floodplain, stream, spring, all that stuff. But we're staying well away from that. I guess besides the detention and stormwater management area and elevations, are you proposing a retaining wall since you've got so much? No, that plateaus really nicely up there. And so we've graded it out and are not encroaching in the 25-foot setback and are able to make it work kind of as it sits outside that zone. And we can provide an exhibit to show that. I mean, I guess the obvious question is, since this lot was never really intended to be used like this, is this basin going to work for this additional hardscape, impervious? I guess all that will have to get reviewed, calculated, submitted through your process. Just want to make sure that's not forgotten. No, I mean, obviously not a huge development in the mass that is Beaumont Center, so we can show what impact this would have. Okay, thank you. Yeah, and we're at 41,000 this morning, but we'll send a cap in and make sure we get that. So I guess the question is, obviously, we can't do anything without the plot being amended, but if that did happen, do you need me to come back and do this again? Happy to do it. Concerned about your time. yeah that's a I guess that's more of a planning services you know do we need do it doesn't does this plan need to come back before this committee after a plat revision is the question I think to be clear the plat revision is contingent on the stormwater analysis and that whole piece being approved so it's makes sense it's not as much as just I'm changing a line on a plat right which would be fairly easy there's quite a bit of and to verify the buffer make sure make sure you get on the buffers particle or 19 in the stormwater manual too just to make sure that's all kosher I guess my concern is in your open space exhibit you have the entire detention basin highlighted as usable and we that should just be vegetated not usable usable should have been the area outside the detention the offset but we can clarify that either um the area is still considered part of the floodplain and i know personally what was the day with all the storms tuesday monday it was quite full yeah um So you can see the 965 contour. Everything outside is well above that 65, or if that thing ever did fill up, it would spill over Beaumont Center Lane and go on downstream. So we're confident that anything we label is usable is outside of that real floodplain elevation. Sure. I hope you can just understand my concern of the extreme steep slopes that exist on this parcel. and we all know water when it can be high and flowing fast is dangerous. So I have concerns with this area being labeled as usable open space for the public. So you're saying it'd be better to, because yeah, there's a flat area we called usable, steep slopes we called vegetated. Is there a delineation physically that would be potentially? Yeah, I guess I just wanted to know, you did not describe how the area around the vegetated areas is going to be usable. So if you want to label that space, you know, is there a picnic table? How are people activating that space so we can make sure that they're safe if something were to happen? Sure. All the sleigh riding happens across the street. So I think the answer is yes, it will need to come back before this committee. So, again, it never hurts to ask. We're not opposed to that. We just have to talk through it. No problem. Yeah. Does anyone else on the committee have anything? Brad, are you good? All right. So the staff's recommendation is for postponement, so the motion is for postponement of PLN, MJDP 2645, Beaumont Farm, Unit 10, Lot 12. So moved. All in favor? Anyone opposed? Motion passes. All right. Next plan, MJDP 2646 South Farm Marketplace, Lot 1. This is located at 4051 Nicholasville Road. So we've got Manowar Boulevard, Plan South. Nicholasville Road is just off of Plan Right. so this is for the walmart that's there uh adjacent to the lows and their associated outlots along the corner um the purpose of this amendment is to depict uh 76 7660 square feet uh square foot building expansion and reconfiguration of the adjacent parking um there are quite a number of cleanup items um requirements not met to note no grading striping excavation, filling, or other disturbance of the natural ground cover shall take place... Oh, sorry. Let me step back before I do that. The expansion is this corner here. Let's see. Do we have a... Yeah. So let me go back. So it's this bottom left corner of the existing Walmart building with the parking along there. A little bit of a blow up of that. They're just showing a building addition. with some changes to the parking. Okay, sorry, back to requirements not met. Number one, no grading, striping, excavation filling, or other disturbance shall take place prior to the approval of an erosion control plan. The plan must be submitted in accordance with Chapter 16 of the Code of Ordinances. Number two, denote no building permit shall be issued unless and until a final development plan is certified. Number three, denote all buildings, paving signs, fences, walls, and retaining walls. Shall require a separate review and building permit from Division of Building Inspection. Number four, denote the location of fire hydrants, fire department, or fire service features, if required, shall be approved by the Division of Fire Water Control Office. Number five, denote landscaping shall conform with Article 18 of the Zoning Ordinance, Article 6-10 of the Land Subdivision Regulations, and the Tree Protection Ordinance. Number six, denote stormwater management, sanitary sewers, and public street improvements shall be designed and constructed in accordance with the LFUCG engineering manuals. Number seven, remove the aerial imagery from the planned face. We just wanted drawing, not the aerial imagery underneath. Number eight, include all general notes from MNDP 2228. Number nine, denote the purpose of the plan. Number 10, depict the graphic scale. Number 11, depict property boundaries in conformance with Article 21-6B1 of the zoning ordinance. Number 12, denote record plat book and page. Number 13, depict vicinity map. Number 14, dimension all driveways and walkways. Number 15, denote construction access. Number 16, depict cross sections for all adjacent rights of way. Number 17, depict building lines. Number 18, denote conditional zoning Number 19, denote no change to exterior lighting or provide a lighting plan Number 20, verify commission certification Number 21, provide direct sidewalk connections to Marketplace Drive and Nicholasville Road Number 22, provide bicycle parking at 10% of the total parking provided for the site Number 23, submit a tree protection plan Number 24, provide vehicular use area statistics, including VUA size, interior landscaping required and provided, and interior tree canopy required and provided. Number 25, upload open space exhibit to Acela and provide open space and site statistics as a percentage. There are no waivers requested at this time. Under design considerations, number one, see all Acela comments provided by the Division of Engineering. Number two, move pedestrian crossing at Manowar Boulevard closer to the street to reduce occlusion issues. Number three, a sanitary sewer capacity application is required prior to the issuance of a building permit. Number four, address sanitary sewer capacity. Under plane questions and concerns, what are the new striped areas along the main draw aisle near the main entrance? and then we do recommend postponement because there are questions regarding conformance with article 21 of the zoning ordinance if it the when the plan is approved we have sign offs for engineering traffic engineering landscaping addressing urban forester environmental qualities approval of environmentally sensitive areas and greenways white ped open space fire waste management water quality approval the cap requirements u.s postal service and then Finally, number 13, to correct all noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met. With that, I'll open it up to the committee. You can remove addressing. Number four. You can remove environmental quality, too. And number six. All right, there's the applicant here. Good morning. Jared Hutchison with Carlson Consulting Engineers. I kind of wanted to just run through some of these denoting items. I got a lot of that in there. I did remove that aerial imagery. I just haven't updated the plan in Accela, but I did bring that with me. if y'all wanted to take a look at it by chance, but we'll end up uploading it. But a question I had was about the bicycle parking. So with 10%, we need about, I think it's about 90 stalls. Typically, we like to keep the, or in the past where we proposed bicycles, was that a comment from you? Okay. We typically put it in like those little, like where the expansion is being proposed just to the plan east side of that. In that area, that's kind of typically where we would propose that. And with us needing 90, we need about, I think the ones we typically propose, they're like a U-line rack, double-sided bike rack. but we'd need about three of them. I think we could probably fit them in there. In the event that we didn't put it in there, I guess we could stripe out an area in the parking lot and add those there. But does that sound like a – So the ordinance requires them to be within 20 feet, I believe, of the main entrance. Okay. So you could split that on either side too. So if you wanted to put them on the garden center side and that side to disperse them a little better. but I don't think it would meet it in the parking lot. Okay, yeah, okay. But, yeah, I think we should be able to get them all within that 20-foot. You said 20-foot from, like, the main vestibule door? Okay. Give or take. I mean, with these bigger box stores, we understand that there's a lot of usable space, and you all program that differently, so we understand that there might be some variation there, but that is the way it is spelled out in the audience. Okay. I guess, did anybody have any concerns or questions about it? I know the storm sewer brought up as an issue as well. For the storm sewer, there's just downspout leaders going into a line, a line and then it ties into the existing system, running along that Nichols Park Drive, and it's all on existing impervious surface, so no increase in flows are expected. For the sanitary sewer, did you have a concern? Okay. Are you adding anything else to the system? Yeah, there'll be stuff internally, I'm sure. I mean, maybe a slight increase. And that's fine, but that'll take care of it in the capacity application. Okay, okay. Yeah, I think Bill's asking, if you're adding fixtures, you know, right, any fixtures that add flow. Okay, okay. And even if not, with the change of use, you would still need to update the capacity application. Okay. One thing that didn't make it in was a request that you could add a note specifying to use thermoplastic for the nonstandard parking stalls rather than paint. Okay. I think actually that the access road was, I think it was restriped like a year, year and a half ago, and it's already almost completely gone. So by the end of the year, we're hoping to have it codified where that's a requirement, but right now what's our strong recommendation is that you use Thermos because we've had consistent maintenance issues with all these big box doors, like maintaining their striping, and then people will call us thinking it's our street. Is it the circulatory road? But really, any nonstandard parking stall is what we've requested because usually if it's like those cross-hatchings, it's there for a reason to mark increased safety area, notifying people who are going to walk through here. And paint just has not been shown to last more than a couple years. Like I said, by the end of the year we're having to codify it, but right now we're really strongly recommending that that be something because then usually thermal will last five to eight years and before it needs to be refreshed again. Yes, okay. And then I noticed that there was another comment about some striping that there was a question about on a particular side. Yeah, I was going to mention that. So it looks like, is this some kind of pick-up and drop-off area? Is that what this is to serve? Do you know what the need to use? Yeah, it's for the online grocery pickup. Sorry. So generally, like it looks like there's a lot of painted areas that are going to be utilized for people moving. And so we allow that where it crosses a drive aisle, but we don't allow that where it is adjacent to the drive aisle. So if you're just trying to remain flush, there needs to be a grade separation. So generally those areas would need to be raised six inches concrete. Okay, so are you talking about like the rear of the expansion side? Yeah, there's a bunch of painted areas in there that are going to be moving people through them, but there's no barrier in any of that, right? Okay. So if someone gets astray, you know, outside of where a known conflict point would be, right, it can be complicated. So we require those to be raised. Okay, and baller protection isn't most? I think we specifically call it out as raised. So, I mean, yeah, that makes sense, but, you know, the ordinance is the way it's written. Okay, so just some sort of, I mean, does it need to be like a landscaped island or just what you said, like a raised concrete? It's generally a sidewalk or, you know, like those areas would just be raised concrete. or, you know, we have seen in some cases, like in the middle island, where they just do a raised curb and leave the pavement flush, but you've got to be careful with that as it becomes a little bit more of a trip hazard under that condition, so that's more of something for you all to address. Okay. You know. Another concern I have is, you know, out front on the front side of that expansion, and we're proposing, again, another striped-out area next to that landscaped island up there on the front that runs along that frontage road in front of the store. I'm assuming that area would also need to be raised six inches. Those are crossing the actual drive aisle? Is that what you mean? Or you mean the area that is flushed already under the current condition with the pavement? We might have a zoomed in if you go to the next slide. I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure exactly. Click that big button. Big button. Oh, okay. The top left will later be on. Okay. My point in this – oh, well, there it is right there. This striped area here. So this wouldn't need to be raised if it's just this you're saying right here? You'll have to – there's another requirement for a direct connection to the JSON right-of-way. so that can come a couple – you could choose where to do that, but typically it's along the main drive aisle, so you would have to – something's going to have to – you'll have to accommodate that as well down here. Yeah, so David's – like the sidewalk's going to need to extend out to Nichols Park Drive to connect to that right away. So you'll need to make those standard-width drive aisles with sidewalks heading out, so those will all need to be grade separate. And the same thing goes for the other side where you'll need to connect to Nicholsville Road. as well so there's just sidewalk stubs along the street you'll have to you'll have to connect to those as well so i i think i'm a little i'm a little confused so so we're extending this sidewalk here into to to the building to the building to the building okay so just like along this portion right here? Yes. Okay. Okay. And this doesn't require planning approval. It's just would go back through for the tech review meeting again. Okay. And do you know is that submittal deadline a month before the tech review meeting or is it just? Any revisions need to be no later than 48 hours prior to the meeting. Okay, okay. Yeah, so you've got some time to work. Okay, perfect. The earlier you can get it to us, the better, but the deadline's 48 hours. Oh, no, I don't think I have anything else to add or we can work through at a later date. Anybody else have anything on the committee? All right, thank you. So staff recommends postponement. So the motion is for postponement of PLN MJDP 2646 South Farm Marketplace, Lot 1 amended, with the addition of note number 5 under design considerations for the use of thermoplastic for all paint stripe markings, and then the amendment to the sign-offs, removal of addressing, and Department of Environmental Quality's sign-offs, so moved. Second. All in favor? Anyone opposed? All right. We're going to move on down the agenda. We're going to PLN MJDP 2648 Samuel H. Bryan, Track 8, Carnes Property. We just saw a zone change on this plan not too long ago. This is Clay's Mill Road. We have Nakomi up here. Down in this area, we have Stone Road and New Circle Road. But this was a residential piece of property, and they came in and rezoned the property so that they could do 41 townhomes and create a common open area. So here's the layout for the townhomes and the common open area up in the front. So they have a new road, Holland Drive, which then stubs into Loretta Drive, which then stubs into an existing residential neighborhood. and on the other side, it steps into a piece of property that at this current time has a single-family home on it. Requirements not met is correct. Note number one, to read no building permit shall be issued unless until a final development plan is certified by the Secretary of Planning Commission. Number two, traffic calming features to be added in accordance with the land subdivision regulations. Number three, provide justification for removals and proposed mitigation of significant tree loss. Four, upload open space exhibit to a cell and provide open space and site statistics as a percentage. Five, addition of existing and proposed easements. Six, delete note number 14 as a duplicate of note number one. Number seven, denote street waiver. PLN WAV 25-7 approval. This was approved at time zone change, so we need to have that waiver added to this plan. addition of elevation on contour lines. At this current time, we don't have any additional waivers being requested. Design considerations. Move pedestrian crossing closer to the intersection at Loretta Drive. Keep detachable warning perpendicular to the crossing, not the radius. To sanitary sewer easement will be needed parallel to Clay's Mill Road right away to allow connection to 2916 Clays Mill Road. Three, sewer capacity in this area is low at the time. Four, design doesn't protect. Greatest number of tree, plane questions or concerns. Will there be on-street parking? If so, 20 feet of clear right-of-way must be maintained per the fire department. The stack recommends approval with the sign-offs, following sign-offs, engineering, traffic landscape addressing urban forester environmental quality bike and ped open space division of fire division waste management division of water quality the US Postal Service and then it says correct all mode efficiencies listed as requirements not bet here on I'm going to open this to the committee to see if there's any other comments or questions or if any sign offs can be removed at this time if not I think you can remove me from this one David's got the only thing that I would have concern with okay so remove bike and bed yes please I think we need to discuss if those lots that are in the environmentally sensitive areas slash sinkhole area before they get building permits that they should have a geotech report that Matt can elaborate on what he thinks is necessary. They have it outlined here as far as the lots that are in that area. Okay. If there's not any other comments or questions, I'll open it to the applicant. Again, Matt Carter, Vision Engineering. As far as the environmentally sensitive area, we did do a geotechnical investigation of that. I can provide that. But even though we've done that, when we're under construction, we have kind of guidelines if something is encountered, what to do. And we'll make sure the contractors are aware of that. But I'll get you a copy of that if you don't already have one. I guess, David, you were looking to move. Yeah, I think there is something in the engineering center drawings about putting it in the tangent. But really, if it's greater than, like, 15-foot radius, it ends up pushing the crossing back off the road too far. The stop sign would be way back here, which is kind of a lot. Yeah, so it just ends up, yeah, we probably need to put more nuance in that drawing. Can we line it up with kind of in line with that sidewalk? Yeah, pretty much. The closer to the street, you know, without being in the street, the better because you're at the intersection. And what I mean about, like, with the detectable warnings is a lot of times the contractors want to perpendicular with the radius. Keep them in line. Yeah, so just, yeah. Yeah, okay. That's my problem. That's it, because, yeah, it's just, yeah, not that far off the road. It's hard to see. Under design considerations number two, we'll add that easement he's talking about. we've got a sewer crossing here and then this piece here would have to have an easement. The rest of it falls within the right-of-way so there's no easement that would go with it. Sewer capacity, we'll go ahead and apply now for that so we can get that reserved. Hopefully there will be something there. Matt, are you all thinking about the same thing for the Clays Mill Road crossing? Yeah, I actually did. I noted that on my plan. Okay, I didn't know if you – I just want to make sure that we – yeah. Yeah, and just for everybody he's talking about right here. number four design doesn't protect the greatest number of trees and eric i think it'd be really beneficial if i could just meet with you and uh we've got a good handle on all the trees and you know i just need to come up with justifications that you would understand and agree to. And I think there's some trees that fall in this area where I'm certain we can protect them, but I don't know that it would meet that requirement for the protected area around it. Some are like right in here's significant trees. I can't move the road. The road has to go there, but I think we could save those trees, and even this one here would just have to be really careful. So I'll work with you on that if that's fine. Yeah, yeah, let's meet out there and see what it looks like. Bring your bug spray. Okay. Okay. Okay, plan questions and concerns. I know the fire is saying you need 20 feet clear, and our section is only 27. So most likely we'll just put signs that say no parking anywhere. All along here, where the drives are in here, you can't park anyway. The only places that you could possibly parallel park would be along this road here, here, and up in here. But I don't think seven feet is enough room for a car to park in. Is it? Yeah, we've used sevens, more so in the downtown area. Eight's the typical, but in the downtown area, a lot of times you'll see it'll be seven. Okay. Some of the larger trucks. Maybe we should sign it because I know people, a guest is going to park somewhere. So I'd like to designate areas if they are okay. Yeah, at least one side will be signed, if not both. Like you said, the driveways really take up. You can't really park without blocking a driveway anyway. Yeah, and that's what I was looking for as far as guests showing up, parking in front of the driveway once the owner is actually in the driveway. So that's what I'm kind of looking out for is people parking on both sides in front of the driveways. Yeah, okay. So I guess to sum up what we just said, we will put no parking in front of the houses, but in this area here, here, and here, we'll have parallel parking. Other than that, if you have any questions. Quick question from the – I assume the roadway drainage will be separate from all the lot drainage, and will there be a street tie-in somewhere? There's a – For storm. Yeah. Okay, right here is an existing curb box inlet. There's another one there. And all of our roadway drainage is going to be directed to this detention basin where our outlet structure will tie in. With the lot drainage also? So it all goes to that one basin there? Yeah. I mean, that's just interesting with that being a – it's going to be a public street, right? Yes. Okay. Who's going to maintain – I mean, is that all going to be – I guess maintenance becomes a question then. And if you get public street water draining to a basin that's private, is that kind of what I'm walking my way through here? That could get a little tricky. It could. I mean, you're right. Maybe it ends up a – I don't know. That's something we'll have to – That's a little odd for maintenance purposes. I'm just trying to think out loud here. Does that sound odd to you, Vaughn? I mean, we can buy – I mean, it's typically when you do neighborhoods, they go into – the streets go into a basin. And most of the lots are typically – there's no storm drainage on them. They're just overland flow into the streets. So, you know, I don't see this any different than any other neighborhood. This one's a little bit different, I guess, because of, are those townhouses or just duplexes? Townhomes. Yeah. So who's going to maintain the basin? It's always great when there's townhouses because there's a lot separate. They're usually separate. Not laid out like this. So who's going to maintain the basin? Yeah. We'll just have to define that. Yeah. I mean, my plan was that the neighborhood creates an association, and the association is responsible for they'll mow right away, and they'll probably do all the mowing, but they would be responsible for keeping up the mowing and cleaning out any garbage or anything that gets in the basin. so i guess i mean usually townhomes are their own individual lots typically is that the case are okay these are also these are all single family lots okay and the detention basin is on its own lot as well yeah it'll have an address so i guess yeah maintenance is a big question for us we can continue this discussion if you want to have a separate meeting with us in engineering perhaps, but I've got to think about that a little bit more on how that's going to work. But, I mean, what you're saying might be fine. I just want to make sure that we're clear on maintenance and ownership transition to that basin. And there's a new maintenance manual that you can share with your homeowners. I mean, yeah, who will actually own that lot? Right. Yeah. For the basin. Yeah, it would be owned by the association. Okay. Yeah. So it is like an HOA? Yeah. Okay. And it's not the HOA for the adjoining. It's just this 41 lots, 42 count in the basin. Go ahead and note that on the plan, I guess. Yes. Okay. Yes. Currently, that detention basin is labeled as your common open space. I've not seen an exhibit, but I assume it is. It is, and I think we discussed it. I can't remember. But we put a sidewalk around it to kind of activate it. Yeah, the only question is if that law transitions to a neighborhood association and it goes defunct and maintenance isn't upkept and it goes to the city, then the city is now taking care of a common open space for a neighborhood. So just something to consider. I mean, what would be the alternative to dedicate it to the city now? Is it considered a greenway at that point? I mean, we just need to keep these in mind. Yeah. So maintenance is a good discussion point. Matt, I've got the parcel address that you'll consider to you. Yeah. Okay. Copy Mark McIntosh, too, if you don't mind. All right. Anybody else? Matt, you good? Yes. Okay. Thank you. So staff's recommendations for approval. So the motion is for approval of PLN, MJDP 2648, Samuel H. Bryan, Tract 8. So moved. Oh, I'm sorry, with the removal of bike and pedestrian planners, approval of bike trails and pedestrian facilities. We also want to add number 9, under requirements not met, denote HOA will maintain the detention basin. Okay. Okay, so the motions for approval of PLN MJDB MJDP 2648 Samuel H. Bryan tracked 8 with the addition of Note 9 under requirements not met denote maintenance of Detention Basin and open and open space for the HOA and then removal of number 7 Like and ped for sign offs so moved All in favor Is anyone opposed? All right, motion passes. What are all of these? Yes, we're going to move on down to the next plan. I think we had these out of line because I think the zone change is in your packet next, but the next one would be PLNMJ DP 2649, the Church of Good Shepherd amended. This property here is located off of Main Street, and then this is Bell Court back here in the rear. they're proposing a new building to be added here in front a new, to pick the parish hall addition to the existing place of religious assembling and corresponding site improvements at this time I was going to say do you have your copy of your picture and your thank you, if you could hand that to Ms. Paula I appreciate it. Requirements not met. Improved plan legibility to pick boundaries of property with dark, solid lines and bearings and distances. Number three, dimension existing proposed driveways, walkways, parking areas, points of ingress and egress, access points for construction vehicles. Four, denote location of street cross-section on plan phase. Five, correct note number ten to reference. 6-9 of the land subdivision regulations from the previous plan. Number 6, to mention all proposed and existing buildings. Number 7, addition of new site statistics box, completing all missing information. 8, addition of notes 10 through 12 from previous plan, DP 2015-92, for the Board of Adjustment and Board of Architectural Review approvals. as being in a historic overlay. Number nine, remove extra commission certification. Ten, clarify lighting plan. Eleven, add bicycle parking at 10% of the total vehicular parking provided. Twelve, submit tree inventory map and tree preservation plan on a separate document with required information depicting tree protection areas to scale. 13, tree canopy coverage for the lot is not met. Number 14, provide justification for removals and proposed mitigation to offset loss of significant trees. 15, locate stormwater management on development plan. At this current time, we have listed a tree canopy for a waiver, tree canopy minimum of 30%. The filing deadline for the waiver report is on Friday of this week. Design considerations. See all the solar comments provided by the Division of Engineering. Number two is sanitary sewer capacity application is required prior to issuance of building permit. Number three, design does not protect greatest number of trees. Preserve white oak. plan questions or concerns, are any amendments to the public right-of-way proposed, curb, sidewalk, utility strip. The staff recommends approval with the following sign-offs, engineering, traffic, landscape, addressing, urban forester, Department of Environmental Quality, bike and ped, open space, Division of Fire, Water, control office, Division of Waste Management, document of division water quality, provide planning commission grants waiver for the tree canopy requirements, and then correct all note deficiencies listed as requirements not met here on. I'm going to open it to the committee to see if there's any other comments or questions or if you want to. Anybody can be removed from this list? Cheryl, you can remove me. Okay. Can you show me what the outline is of the new building? Because it just looks like stairs or ramp or something. Is that it? Is that one? This area here. it looks like you have a fence possibly yeah that needs to you can remove that out of the middle if you had some dimensions that might be helpful to really determine where the location of the building is anybody else you can remove environmental quality okay so remember removal of six and eight anyone else can be removed from this take addressing off anyone else if not applicant if you like to speak Good morning, I'm Katie Beard with Prime AE. Jordan Sebastian, landscape architect with Florida Sergeant. We're agreeable to all of the comments. I think the main thing we needed to touch on today is probably the tree canopy. I will briefly touch on the stormwater too. We're planning to remove the underground pit that's shown. There's an underground detention, and then there's also a small above-ground detention in the front of the building near East Main. So that'll all be removed. We'll take that off this plan. We'll pipe it around to the front to underground detention under the landscape area in the front. So that's the intention there. The disturbance is less than an acre, so we have not proposed water quality treatment for this. I think that is really like I say the only real issue we have besides the tree canopy and I'll let Jordan kind of speak to that yeah so we have already modified the plans so we're going to save the white oak out front on main street the difficulty we're having with the tree canopy is the existing coverage is only 25 percent so it doesn't meet that and we are So we're basically taking out six trees, one stump. We're adding back in nine trees. So we're actually adding canopy. We're going from 25% to 28% tree canopy coverage, but we're still not going to be to the 30%. And are you going to apply for a waiver for that? Yeah, we're going to get that in on Friday. Okay. Um, there's also some, we could probably talk about some options as far as meeting that maybe offsite in the area on public land. So, depends on how that goes. Would that still, still file the waiver and go through that process? Yes. Okay. And that'll be kind of after that or as a part of that process? Potentially a condition of approval. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. Thank you for saving the white oak. That's great. Is there a filing fee with that waiver? Okay, so just the documents, file on a CELA and the notification requirement. There's a separate application in a CELA for all waivers. There's no fee yet, but eventually there will be. Okay. Quick clarification, just a quick question on the underground detention area there. Is that just like a, it's hard to tell what kind of what's going into that area. Is that like a planter bed or the structural line? Is that going to be like a hard structure there? Or I'm just curious what that is. Yeah, so there's two sets of stairs, one going up kind of the connector with the parish hall and the existing building. The other set of stairs is going up to what's essentially a little grass terrace. There's a labyrinth out there. And then there's a ramp that's kind of getting our accessible route up to the building. and there is underground detention underneath that kind of raised terrace area. Okay, so that's like a ramp to come around. I can kind of see it now. Okay. Will it be accessible for inspection underneath whatever? Oh, the underground. Yeah, we will have a structure. All of that that's kind of hatched is grass area, So we'll have to have a structure for access to the underground at some location. We haven't fully thought that out yet. And it'll connect where it currently connects. You can see the existing piping going out to the storm sewer there in the street to that structure. I didn't mention one of the other questions was about modifications to the right-of-way. We don't propose any. The only thing would be if we have to cut through the sidewalk and curb to make our sanitary connection. I'm not sure yet exactly where the new sanitary connection will be, but that would just be remove and replace, no improvements or changes to the right-of-way. So have you applied for the capacity application? No, but I'll do that right away. There will be additional fixtures in a kitchen with the sink. Anybody else have any questions? Applicant, you guys? Katie, Sebastian? You good? I think we're good. Alright. Thank you. Okay, so, staff recommendation is for approval, so the motions for approval of PLN, MJDP 2649, the Church of God's Shepherd amended, with amendments to the staff recommendations for sign-offs, so the removal of addressing number four, DEQ number six, and open space number eight, so moved. All in favor? Anyone opposed? All right. Motion passes. Okay. All right. Our next plan is a preliminary development plan in association with a zone change. This is MJDP 2547 Southside Technical Center property. I'm sorry 2647 This is located at 1770 and 1800 Harrodsburg Road on the plan this is Harrodsburg at Plan North with Clay's Mill Plan South and McCubbing coming through here so this is formerly owned by Fayette County Public Schools I believe it was a trade school before. The purpose of the plan is to depict the current site layout in support of the requested zone change from single-family residential R1C zone to a corridor business B3 zone. And the intent, the use of the land is to be for a trade school. And they're not really proposing any changes to the site. This is just to support the zone change. So there's the main structure. There's some smaller structures associated with that. There's an entrance off of Clay's Mill that's gated. This rear area is fenced. And then there's a circle entrance off of Harrodsburg Road that was formerly for a bus drop-off pickup. up and then there's an entrance into the main parking area off of McCubbin there. So under requirements not met, number one, to depict the building lines. Number two, denote no change in exterior lighting or provide a lighting plan. Number three, depict pedestrian entrances to the buildings. Number four, addition of a direct sidewalk connection to McCubbin Drive. Number five, addition of bicycle parking at 10% of the total vehicular parking provided. Number six, submit a separate tree inventory map. Number seven, upload open space exhibit to Acela and provide open space and site statistics as a percentage. There are no waivers requested at this time. Under design considerations, see all Acela comments provided by the Division of Engineering. Number two, any future plan will require a dumpster location. under plan questions or concerns number one discuss place builder criteria number two discuss removal of circle drive on harrodsburg road that was something that we discussed in the the pre-app meeting if it was not needed that potentially they could remove that number three confirm there are no proposed site changes including the right-of-way number four address sanitary sewer capacity. Number five, discuss plan type preliminary versus final development plan. And then staff does recommend approval with sign-offs. Number one, provided the urban county council approves the zone change to B3. Otherwise, any commission action of approval is null and void. And then sign-offs for engineering, traffic engineering, urban forest or open space, environmental qualities, approval of environmentally sensitive areas. And then finally, to correct all noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met herein and that I'll open it up to the committee I just wanted to clarify that the address of the parcel is 1770 where the school system came up with the 1800 that they slapped on the building nobody seemed to know but they did that I think it's a pva issue they got 1770 on there well they if you look um in all of harrodsburg road you can kind of do a range in between 1700 and 1900 it does show and in our gis the little square and my interpretation is that's how they tax them separately right they can tax the land but that little square got thrown on there peter did that to try to track that but since this building kind of goes that it's probably gonna be taxed yes I don't think currently there there's so they're showing different ownership yeah so that's the thing that I can strike the PVA to drop that 1800 off that thing we prefer if we didn't drop anything until after the zone changes well yeah okay I clarify that but I mean I just want to be sure that somewhere along the line we don't end up two addresses and confuse everybody which one they're supposed to look at for the PVA record because right now there is two PVA records and it's confusing who owns what. Right, they're listed with different owners. Yeah, so at some point in time I'll get up to the sixth floor and try to figure that out. At some point further down the line here we'll figure this out. But we'll work something out with them later on after this gets done of course. But you're saying the building actually has 1800 listed on it? The school system, they put an $1,800 on the building. When they did that, that created a tax record that PVA created because of that. Somewhere along the line, that $1,800 came from the school system, so PVA followed along as a way to tax it, or not tax it in this case. Anything else from the committee? Matt Carter, Vision Engineering. So we got no problem calling it 1770. We never understood the 1800 either. I did see on the PVA, like you said, a little square on the building with 1800. But as far as we're concerned, it's 1770. Really, there's no changes to the site proposed by the owner other than there's a fenced-in area here. He said at our public meeting that we had this week, there's a few shed-type buildings in there. He said they're not in good shape. He's just going to get rid of them. But no, he's not going to replace them with other buildings. One of the comments was to add a sidewalk connection from the building over to McCubbing. Is that correct? And then, Scott, I don't know. Did you have a comment about a sidewalk along here? Yeah, we were kind of discussing this when we were reviewing this together. And, you know, there's this – there's that sidewalk that kind of goes along the access from Harrisburg Road and up to McCubbin Drive. And to me, that would be – a better solution would be a sidewalk adjacent to McCubbin Drive as opposed to that straight-out connection because then it would kind of – that would serve that purpose. Does that make sense? Yeah. It would be a better improvement for the site and for the people accessing it and using the space than another one directly out that almost follows that same pathway. Yeah. So I was thinking in lieu of that, that might be the solution because then you – it's not straight direct, but it's really close to direct to McCubbing. There is a sidewalk here. Right. But it doesn't go – you know, it doesn't cross. It's kind of steep right in here anyway. But I guess, well, and then there's a sidewalk here. Yeah, that's the one I was referring to. But there is no sidewalk adjacent to McCubbin Drive. And to me, that would be a better improvement to the site would be to put the sidewalk there because then you're addressing sidewalk on both sides. It connects to all those surrounding sidewalks and improves that access. And the owner, he's basically said he's okay with that. So he'll do any kind of improvements to help pedestrians. And this is a weird, you know, these triangular lots with three different, right? We ran the same thing with the coffee house. So that to me would be a better solution if you want to show that. And then we'll consider that other one a direct connection. It's kind of a weird intersection here with those pylons. If you're on Clay's Mill, you can't access the property except for right there. but that doesn't, you know, go into here. Yeah, there were several injury collisions there, and the neighborhood wanted a solution. They wanted a traffic signal, but there was a $10,000 solution instead of $200,000. And we've not had any injury collisions, so it did work. My way of getting into the site was to cut through the bank, and then it comes out in front. And I tried that Tuesday night, and the bank was tore down. I didn't expect that. Let's see what else we have. As far as preliminary final, I know, Tracy, we talked about this Tuesday. Can we go ahead and call this a final then? Is that going to add more sign-offs? It will add a few sign-offs, so I would encourage you to talk to everybody. Yes, talk to fire and waste management. DWQ I'll circulate the plan around everybody sewer capacity do we need to apply because there's no change in square footage or use if it's not a change of use no it's kind of interesting it was a trade school owned by the state, you know, operated as a school, and the people that bought it is a trade union that does the exact same, teaches the same thing, so they're moving into it. They're private, and that's why we had to do the zone change. Does ownership change mean they need to at least fill out a form with you? Usually through our tap-on desk, if it changes, you probably need to re-up the application just because of change of ownership. because change of ownership kind of depicts change of views. Okay. I mean, a little redundant. I mean, it was a school for academic instruction because it was a primary-secondary school. It just happened to be focused on the trades and technical school, and now it's owned by a union that is educating people after their high school graduation. So it's slightly different, but I do think it's pretty similar. It might just help to update that. So I'd do the same process, file it, but just say there's no change, and it's basically a change in ownership. Yeah, okay. Other than that, I don't have any other questions or comments. So they're not doing like a remodel of the whole building and changing? Exterior, nothing. Interior, they said they would be painting, and they're going to be making, like, HVAC improvements. It's all internal. If they add fixtures, then that wouldn't need to be. No, they're not doing that. They're just, the air conditioning wasn't working Tuesday night, so they're going to fix that. Yeah. All right, anybody else? Matt? You good? Yep. All right. Thank you. So, staff recommendations for approval. So, the motion is for approval of PLN, MJDP 2647, Southside Technical Center property. So moved. Excuse me. All in favor? Anyone opposed? Motion passes. All right. Now we're moving on to postpone items. So the first one, FRP 259, Ball Homes property and Lillian Hunt property, 711 Speedway. This is located at 1318 and 1320 Versailles Road. The purpose of this amendment is to dedicate the right-of-way for the terminus of Divine Avenue and sidewalk improvements along Versailles Road. So we've got Versailles Road, Plan North, and Red Mile. to the right and so our subject properties this kind of hatchet shaped thing Divine Avenue stubs into the property here and so they're showing a hammerhead for the termination they did submit a revised plan on June 16th we are recommending approval with sign-offs for engineering traffic engineering landscaping, addressing, urban forester, environmental qualities, approval of environmentally sensitive areas, bike ped, green space, addition of utility and street light easements. And then number 10, division of water qualities, approval of the cap requirements. Number 11, U.S. Postal Service. And then 12, depict streets and adjacent properties per article 5-4D of the land subdivision regulations. Number 13, depict parcel addresses. Then we added number 14 remove old bot line which has already been resolved by minor consolidation plat s 604 That I'll open it up to Committee for discussion You can remove open space slash green space number eight You can remove environmental quality Number six Yeah, you can move by bed everything's built and we've already had emails about it so it's fine it's number seven yeah thank you could take addressing off I'll have GIS kind of that hammerhead goes to public correct that's what we're doing yep all right I'll make sure GIS time it takes our center line into that so we get we count it but otherwise you can take us off okay you can remove landscape as well all right this is the updated plan yes is the urban county engineer certification on there uh i don't think it's the full plan oh so i'm not 100 sure if it's on there we'll we'll double check make sure Any other questions, concerns? All right. I don't think there's a... Hello, my name is Macy Downey from McBride Dale Clarion. I don't really have anything to add. we do have the engineering certification on the full plat just checked but I'm happy to answer any questions or provide any color okay thank you all right so staffs recommendations for approval so the motion is for a approval right now we real approval of PLN FRP 25 9 Ball Homes property and Lily Hunt property with amendments to sign-offs for number three landscape number four addressing number six DEQ number seven bike and ped and number eight green space open space planner so moved all in favor anyone opposed motion passes Okay, so the next one on postponements, FRP 269 Turner Property in Meadowthorpe Community Business Center, Turner Commons. This is located at 125 Turner Commons Way. We had postponed this because there was a question about whether it needed to be a preliminary or final plat, and I believe they've documented all the infrastructure improvements, so we've determined that it can go forward as a final. So we don't have a revised plan or revised conditions. I guess I just want to get on the record that I guess previously they were dedicating public infrastructure, but since then we've had conversations that all of it's going to be private. All right. Anybody else? So is this an approval, re-approval, or is there any action needed? Approval. Approval. Okay. I will just add that for Palmer if you could note make sure and note the waiver approval that occurred on the face of the plan we could we didn't ask the applicant if they need anything do so just do we do do you all need have any questions for us sorry I'm going to leave them out I'm Brian Ward, Palmer Engineering. I just got a couple standard notes I need to add to it, including the waiver approval note. And I think everything else is good and the infrastructure stuff is submitted and it should be good. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, so the motion is for approval of PLN FRP 269, Turner Property and Meadowthorpe Community Business Center. some moved. All in favor? Anyone opposed? Motion passes. All right, so next one. MJDP 2637 Coldstream Research Campus Unit 4, lots 23, 24, and 31. Coldstream Farm Sky 3. This is located at 1501, 1525, and 1776 McGrathiana Parkway. The purpose of the plan is to construct a 224,000-square-foot grocery and pharmacy delivery station with associated parking. So on the plan left, this is Citation Boulevard. This is McGrathiana. And, of course, it comes and loops around and then connects back into itself. and the Newtown Pike is off the plan to plan south. So what they're proposing, actually, then the greenway is here to the plan north. So they're proposing this main structure kind of in the center of the property. And currently this is three lots and there's a consolidation plat required and release of easements. The property line at this time goes roughly through here. And then down here, so there's a lot here, there's a lot here, and there's a lot here that make up the site. But they're showing parking off McGrathianna here with what looks like, I guess, the main entrance probably for the employees there. Then there's an entrance off McGrathianna back here into this other parking area with a future building depicted. and then they're showing a truck entrance directly off citation with their loading dock area there. Under requirements not met, number one, provide the dumpster enclosure and concrete pad specifications. 2. Denote required floodplain information. 3. Depict vegetated buffer in 25-foot buildings setback from floodplain. 4. Depict and label proposed storm sewer and drainage easements to address pass-through drainage. 5. Depict all existing and proposed easements. 6. Submit a tree inventory map and a tree preservation plan as separate documents with all required information. Number seven, mitigation proposal is required for all proposed significant tree removals above and beyond requirements for Article 18 and 26 of the zoning ordinance. Number eight, provide justification for removals and mitigation proposal on tree preservation plan. They did revise the plan so that they would not require waivers, so those are no longer necessary. and under design considerations, see all SELA comments provided by the Division of Engineering. Number two, address sanitary sewer capacity. And then under plan questions or concerns, number one, discuss the status of release of easements. Number two, discuss Citation Boulevard access. And this is something that we've had some conversations about. they have to get approval from the UK Design Committee for Coldstream to allow any access. There was also recently a development to the Plan North on the other side of the Greenway for residential apartments, and that was not granted an emergency access. So we had some questions about the consistency between the two sites being allowed access. so we said that as a discussion item number three clarify floodplain information number four is the internal sidewalk through the parking lot at pavement grade or is there an actual sidewalk number five is their potential for roadway lighting conduit and pole bases to be installed as part of this project number six design does not preserve the greatest number of trees and then we do recommend approval with sign-offs engineering traffic engineering landscaping addressing urban forest or environmental qualities approval of environmentally sensitive areas bike and ped open space fire waste management water water qualities approval of the cap requirements u.s postal service and then finally number 13 to correct all noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met and with that i'll open it up to you all for questions Chris, I just had a clarifying question. If I haven't signed off, does number 9 under requirements not met need to be unstrived through? I still have a final sign-off. The original number 9? Yes. So I think we would expect you to review the information, but they did add those pieces of information to the table, so if you need to confirm the numbers, that would just be through your sign-off. They uploaded an exhibit, but I don't think it is perfect yet. Okay. I didn't know. Okay. If you still need another exhibit, we can put that back on. Okay. I think I just marked it out because I saw that there was the exhibit, and I saw that they did put it as – I mean, you still have your sign off. Perfect. Thank you. Okay. So we need to put that back on. Okay. The original number nine under requirements not met. Any Anything else? Will they have dumpsters at this location or is it going to be compactors? We've got a compactor on there so it will be a compactor. Okay, we're good. Okay. All right. Tony? Good morning, Tony Barrett here on behalf of Stonemont Financial. This is Caleb Jones, Stonemont Financial, and Kim Lee Horn is the engineer of record on this, and I'm just facilitating as the local processor, local liaison. So Chris has gone through. We've submitted a revised plan addressing most of the conditions. Scott, you were, my first response was we're going to have a dumpster or a compactor on site, and that's depicted on there. We'll get the floodplain information per, I think, Article 19 is what you sent me on another project this morning, so probably similar information. And the buffer, vegetative buffer as well. We think we have all the easements on there, but we'll make sure we have that addressed. Kimmelie Horn submitted a tree inventory map and a tree protection plan on June 6th, April 6th. We'll make sure that that's up to date and you get what you need there, Eric. So, and then sanctuary sewer capacity, we'll file an application for that if we haven't already. Easement releases, we need to get on site to construct so that we can release. So we've added a note on the plan that the building permit would be restricted to the easements being resolved. That applies to the property lines, too. Right. So, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Consolidation plat and easement release documentation. they've made an application for a consolidation plan but that's as far as we've gotten nobody's submitted anything else they made it in a cella no plans have been submitted well they sent us papers and checked but the mylar showing with the easements being released or new easements is not coming we'll talk about the sequencing of how that has to happen But our intent is to get land disturbance permits so we can disturb to install the utilities, and then we can release. So it's a little bit of a sequence matter. I mean, that's how we've done it in the past, right? Yeah, you'll have to go through Debbie Barnett and water quality. Yeah. They breached out the issues. What was the issue with Citation Boulevard access? Kentucky and the U.K. has allowed that from their perspective, and the state is allowing that. I think from our preference would be not to have access on Citation Boulevard and all the access from the industrial park roads, which are collectors, and they were built size-wise to accommodate industrial traffic. And then we received some information from KYTC about they said Kim Lee Horn or whoever told them we had required an access on citation, which is not true. I'm concerned that that's being communicated to KYTC, so I'm now in contact with Robert Baker to clarify. Yeah, there might just be a submission patient. Okay. The requirements by Goldstream. Yeah. That came from the U.K., not LTC. I don't think the UK can require you to, and we had this discussion last week, UK can't require you to access a public road when they don't have control over that. Sure. Yeah. So that's not really their call. They're in control of the building plans, like what color your brick is and what it looks like. But these are public streets. They're not U.K. private streets. Right, yeah. I think the concern remains the same about tractor-trailers accessing there and having to do U-turns somewhere to get to it because it's right in, right out. There's no crossing the median on citation. Yeah, they understand that. The plan is that they would come in Newtown Pike and leave Georgetown. road so to get interstate access or Georgetown doesn't have interstate access it does it well at Ironworks speed differentiation too is a thing right it's 55 miles an hour so it's just a different beast than a collector street so collision severity is greatly increased especially with heavy vehicles so that's another Vision Zero kind of thing that we're trying to keep people from dying. Imagine that. That's a good goal. Floodplain information talked about. Internal sidewalk, those are raised sidewalks with crossings, so that would be addressed. Roadway lighting, I think we propose that we would assist with that. Yeah, I think really we just kind of came to where if we could get power to – We sent the plans over somewhere in that corner of a Gratheana incitation because right now there's a switchgear kind of up on the hill in the middle, and it's been so costly for us to get to it that we've not been able to put the streetlights in. But if we could get somewhere closer, it would make it easier on us, and then we'll do the rest. We've got the impression on it to you. Okay. All right, and then the trees, Eric, will make sure we get the right information on the tree plant preservation plan. This is something brought up again, not a requirement, but just a connection to legacy for your employees if you want to. Because it eliminates them having to cross-citation or whatever. It might be something to think about. Also, especially because you need common open space identified, so that connection would be. Okay, connection-wise, yes, but we're identifying the part there as the common open space. That's perfect. Yeah, that's not currently on your open space exhibit, but we can get it. It's on the DP now. Perfect. Yeah, part of your condition is that. Yeah, we understand that. Okay. Anybody else? Tony, do you have anything? You good? We're good. So just if anybody wants to come off, we'd be happy to. And you had noted on there that all those gates are electric gates, and I'm going to have to click the inner system. Yeah, there's a note on there about that. Awesome. All right, thank you. Thanks. So staff's recommendations for approval, so the motions for approval of PLN, MJDP 2637 Coldstream Research Campus, Unit 4, Lots 23, 24, and 31. with one amendment to the staff report to include a Open space exhibit That meets the requirements of zoning article 20-3 so moved All in favor anyone opposed motion passes Okay. Last plan. PLN, MJ, DP, 2639, Lexmark International, Section 1, Lots 9 and 10. This is located off of Newtown Pike, this freight boulevard coming in here. The lot that we're looking at is this lot here. They're wanting to add 28,915 square foot building, parking, truck circulation, and then stormwater management on the property. They brought this plan in previously and they had a recommendation for postponement. They did a revised plan, so we have now got revised conditions for this plan. What we still have is, number one, provide dumpster enclosure and concrete pad specifications. Two, update lot number seven per MJDP 2491. The last development plan over here, we want to make sure it meets that plan. complete outdoor lighting plan, provide vehicle use area interior landscaping required, proposed, and ILA tree canopy required, proposed for Lot 10. Upload an open space exhibit to a SELA that matches the site statistics box, including open space requirements. Depict all existing and proposed easements. Depict tree protection areas to scale. At this current time, we do not show a waiver. Design considerations. We have see all the select comments provided by the Division of Engineering. Two, move sidewalk off curb to increase pedestrian comfort. Three, design does not preserve greatest number of trees. Plan questions or concerns discussed with a vehicle use screening. Number two, discuss underground detention in the Royal Springs Wellhead Protection. Three, update on right-of-way dedication of Freight Boulevard and corresponding sidewalk infrastructure. Number four, what is the plan for the relocation of stormwater? Five, discuss who will own and maintain stormwater management. Six, address sanitary sewer capacity and access. Seven, clarify notes 19 and 14. Number eight is tree removal justification is not explicit and proposed mitigation is not sufficient. Heading back to, they do have a Royal Springs Wellhead Protection Area note that they did go in front of the committee. The wellhead said that it would be, they would need to meet the engineering manuals, specifications. So, in the ordinance... Well, actually, didn't they say that they did not want underground detention? Right. They did not want it, but it would be up to the engineering manuals. Up to LFUCG. Engineering manuals. Well, okay. Just a little bit. So, I was just going to say, we discussed them taking this in front of the full planning commission. So this will follow through and go to subdivision committee, and then it will go to the full planning commission because of the wellhead protection notes, recommendation on the plan. But the staff recommends approval with the following sign-offs, engineering traffic, landscaping, addressing, urban forester, Department of Environmental Quality, bike and ped, open space, division of water, division of waste management, division of water quality, U.S. postal, and then to correct all note deficiencies listed as requirements not met here on. With that, I'll open it to the committee to see if anybody can be removed from this list, or if they have any other comments or questions about the plan. If not, I'll leave it to the applicant. Good morning. Greg Smorstad with Banks Engineering. Let's see, just going down through the requirements not met. We have updated the lot seven with the approved development plan, so I don't know if there's anything additional that we need to add to that, but we can coordinate. Okay, all right. Okay. Then moving down to design considerations. We have shown the sidewalk to be moved off of the curb on West Road, so that should have been addressed. And then just the design does not preserve the greatest number of trees. The urban forester and I met out on site, and we took a look at some of the trees to be removed, and I think that we are okay with the plan moving forward of the ones to be removed plus how we're going to mitigate those. and then I think a lot of these things under plan questions and concerns we discussed last month I don't know if we need to go through all those again the main ones are the Royal Springs and so we have added their recommendations to the plan so I guess where we are with Royal Springs is that they would prefer no underground detention be in the area However, if it is approved by LFUCG, then we would just need to meet all of the stormwater manual guidelines for that underground detention. And they reiterated to us that the recommendation they gave us was a recommendation. So we've got that, but then we've also got you all's rules and regulations that we have to follow. So that's kind of where we are on that. But I'd be happy to answer any other questions that you all have. You and I had spoke on the phone earlier about putting a gate on plan north on the longed out fence. Yes. Did you end up indicating that? Yes. So there is a gate shown here, and then now there is also a gate here. Okay. Thank you. Will it have a dumpster location and all the details updated and needs to be put on the plan? Yes. All right. Anybody else? So just to clarify, I need to come back to subdivision, and then this will go to Planning Commission as well. Okay. Yep. All right. Staff recommends approval. So the motion is for approval of PON, MJDP 2639, Lexmark International, Section 1, Lots 9 and 10, with amendments to the staff report to remove notes 2 and 3 under design considerations. So moved. All in favor? Anyone opposed? Motion passes. Thank you. Is there anything else, Chris? I'm not going to put them aware of. Okay, so we're adjourned. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I love you, Mama, I care. Mama, I love you, Mama, my friend. And you'll be my, my, my, my girl. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Thank you. We'll be right back. No, no, no. I'll tell you what's wrong before I get up and close. Don't bring me down. You want to stay out with your fancy friends. I'm telling you it's gotta be the end. Don't bring me down. No, no, no, no, no. I'll tell you once more before I get off the floor Don't bring me down Don't bring me down Don't bring me down Don't bring me down Don't bring me down What happened to the girl I used to know You let your mind out somewhere down the road Don't bring me down No, no, no, no, no I'll tell you what's wrong before I get off the floor Don't bring me down You're always talking about your crazy nights One of the days you're gonna get it right Don't bring me down No, no, no, no, no I'll tell you once more Before I get off the floor Don't bring me down Don't bring me down Don't bring me down Don't bring me down Don't bring me down You're looking good just like a snake in the grass One of these days you're gonna break your glass Don't bring me down No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I'll tell you what's wrong Before I get off the floor Don't bring me down You got me shaking, got me running away You got me crawling up to you every day Don't bring me down No, no, no, no, no I'll tell you what more before I get off the floor Don't bring me down, down, down, down, down, down I'll tell you what's wrong before I get off the floor. Don't bring me down. Thank you. We'll be right back. Playing in the shadows I'm looking to at night Till the morning light We were running Running in the night We were looking so good, girl Heads for turn You and me on the top We let it all hang out If it was enough We were burning We were gonna go on the way And we never had a doubt We were running with the night Playing in the shadows Come to at night Till the morning light We're ready Oh, I'm ready At night We were so alone, you and me All we're gonna want, wild and pretty Didn't all we got, laid it down Taking every shot, took the time We were running for the night Playing in the shadows Just you and I Baby, what's all right? Baby, what's all right? Sometimes I'm telling you, baby. I'm out. Just do it like that. All night, all night, oh, every night So hold tight, hold tight, oh, baby, hold tight Oh, she said, any way you want it, that's the way you need it Any way you want it, she said, any way you want it, that's the way you need it Any way you want it, she said, any way you want it, that's the way you need it I was alone. I never knew what good love could do. Then we're touched. Then we're sang. Oh, my beloved thanks. All night. All night. Oh, every night. So hold tight. Hold tight. Baby, hold tight. She said, anyway, water, that's the way. You need it, any way you want it Oh, I said, any way you want it That's the way you need it, any way you want it She said, oh, oh, oh Hold on, hold on, hold on Anywhere you want it, that's the way you need it Anywhere you want it, anywhere Anywhere you want it, that's the way you need it Anywhere you want it, I wish it to say Any way you want it, that's the way you need it. Any way you want it, that's the way you need it. Any way you want it, that's the way you need it. Any way you want it, that's the way you need it. Thank you. Rescue me And your love too. Come on and rescue me. Come on baby and rescue me. Come on baby and rescue me. Cause I need you by my mind. Can't you see that I'm lonely? Rescue me. Come on and take my heart. Take your love. And comfort every part. Cause I'm lonely and I'm blue. I need you and your love too Come on and rescue me Come on baby and rescue me Come on baby and rescue me Cause I need you and I'm dying Can't you see that I'm loving? Rescue me, but take me in your arms Rescue me, I want you tender time But I'm lonely and I'm blue I need you and your love too Come on and rescue me Come on baby, take me baby Take me baby, let me go Can't you see that I'm lonely? Can't you see that I'm lonely? Come on and take my hand. Come on, baby, and be my man. Cause I love you. Cause I want you. Can't you see that I'm lonely? Take me, baby Love me, baby Need me, baby Can't you see that I'm lonely? Rescue me, rescue me Thank you. traffic jam staring at the faces in a rearview mirror looking at the promise of the promised plan one kid dreams of fame and fortune one kid helps pay the rent One could end up going to prison One just might be present in Only in America Dreaming in red, white and blue Only in America Where we dream as big as we want to We all get a chance Everybody gets to dance All in America Some going down On L.A. freeway Newly weds in the back of a limousine A welder's son and a banker's daughter All they want is everything She came out here to be an actress He was a singer in a band They just might go back to Oklahoma And talk about the stars they could have been Only in America Dreaming in red, white and blue Only in America Where we dream as big as we want to And we all get a chance Everybody gets to dance All in America Only in America Where we dream in red, white and blue Only in America Where we dream as big as we want to We all get a chance Everybody gets to dance Only in America Yeah, only in America Only in America Where we dream in red, white and blue Yeah, we dream as big as we want to Only in America I'm sorry. Oh, my God. Walk like a man, walk like a man, walk like a man, my son. Go on and find, go on the earth, so walk like a man, my son. Woo! Walk, walk, walk, walk. Woo! Bye, baby I don't need a baby Gonna get home somehow Soon you'll be crying On count of all your lying Oh yeah, just look who's like me now I'm going to Walk like a man Fast as I can Walk like a man From you I'll tell the world Don't forget about it, girl. And walk like a man from you. Woo! The End Seems to me You don't want to talk about it Seems to me You just turn your pretty And walk away Places I've known Things that I'm growing won't taste the same without you. I got myself in, what's the mess I've been? And I find myself starting without you. Seems to me, dark, raw, mad here comes the morning. Seems to me, you guys fall in front of the set and breathing day. I'm out. You don't want to talk about it, it seems to me You just do your pretty head and walk away I got to clean myself down Stopping around Thinking some words I can't name ya Meet ya halfway Ain't nothing to say Still I don't suppose I can name ya Seems to me You don't wanna talk about it Seems to me You just have your way to head far away Walk away Thank you. Keep it coming, love Keep it coming, love Don't stop it now, don't stop it No, don't stop it now, don't stop it Keep it coming, love Keep it coming, love Don't stop it now, don't stop it No, don't stop it now, don't stop it Don't let your well run dry Don't stop it now Don't give me no reasons why Don't stop it now Keep it coming, love Keep it coming, love Don't stop it now, don't stop it, no Don't stop it now, don't stop it Keep it coming, love Keep it coming, love Don't stop it now, don't stop it, no Don't stop it now, don't stop it Don't build me up just to let me drop. Don't stop it now. Don't turn me on just to turn me on. Don't stop it now. Keep it calm and love. Keep it calm and love. Don't stop it now. Don't stop it now. Don't stop it now. Don't stop. Keep it calm and love. Keep it coming, love Don't stop it now, don't stop it, no Don't stop it now, don't stop it Don't tell me there ain't no more Don't stop it now Don't turn me down Just close your door Don't stop it now Ooh, keep it coming, love Oh, yeah Thank you. Come and love, keep it, come and love. Don't stop it, now don't stop it, no don't stop it, and don't stop it. Keep it, come and love, keep it, come and love. Don't stop it, now don't stop it, no don't stop it, and don't stop it. Keep it, come and love, keep it, come and love, keep it, come and love, keep it, come and love, keep it. Come and love, keep it, come and love, keep it, come and love. Keep it, come and love, keep it, come and love. Don't stop it now, don't stop it, no, don't stop it now, don't stop it. Keep it, come and love, keep it, come and love. Don't stop it now, don't stop it, no, don't stop it now, don't stop it. Come and love, come and love Don't stop it now, let's talk No, don't stop it now, let's talk Come and love, come and love Let's talk The lights are going dim The sound of your breathing Has made the mood I'm in All of my resistance Flying on the floor Taking me to places I've never been before And I can feel it, feel it, feel it, feel it Way down where the music plays Way down like a tire of waves Way down where the fire plays Way down Way down Way down Oh, my head is thin You got me in your spare A hundred magic fingers A swirling carousel A better swim within me A doctor could describe Your love is true in something That I just can't describe Well, I can feel it Way down with the music plays Way down like a tired wave Way down with the fire plays Way down Way down Way down Hold me again As tired as you can I need you so Baby, let's go Way down Way down Way down Way down Way down Way down Way down Way down Way down Way down The End With the heartbreak open So much you can't hide Put all the little makeup, makeup Make sure they get your good side, good side If the words aren't spoken Get stuck in your throat Send a treasure token, token Riding on a pound, pound, pound, pound Goody-toot, goody-toot, goody-goody-to-shoes Goody-toot, goody-toot, goody-goody-to-shoes Don't drink, don't smoke, what do you do? Don't drink, don't smoke, what do you do? Something in you and don't follow There must be something inside We don't follow fashion That'd be a joke You know we're gonna set them, set them So everyone can take note, take note When it's all you need and Cry the words that you need Opening the eyeballs, eyeballs Pretending that you're out green, out green Goody-toot, goody-toot, goody-goody-toot shoes Goody-toot, goody-toot, goody-goody-to shoes Don't drink, don't smoke, what do you do? Don't drink, don't smoke, what do you do? Subtle innuendos follow, must be something inside. No one's gonna tell me the song I want to fight. Or tell me it will slip with a battle from the big, bad, big man. The cattle will tell you, your answer will die. Two weeks and you're an awesome legend. I think the game that goes much too far. If the world's so spoken, I can't stop you, folks. Send the judges, don't be token. Ride it out, pound out, pound out. Don't drink, don't smoke. What do you do? Don't drink, don't smoke. What do you do? Something in you and don't follow. Must be something inside Is that don't drink, don't smoke What do you do? Don't drink, don't smoke What do you do? Subtle, innuendo, don't follow Must be something inside Is that don't drink, don't smoke What do you do? Don't drink, don't smoke What do you do? Subtle, innuendo, don't follow Must be something inside Is that don't drink, don't smoke What do you do? Don't drink, don't smoke What do you do? Subtle, innuendo, don't follow Must be something inside Cause I don't drink, don't smoke What do you do? Don't drink, don't smoke What do you do? Just I look in you and don't follow Must be something inside Well, you wake up in the morning You hear the work bell ring And I march you to the table You see the same old thing Ain't no food upon the table There's no fog up in the pan But you better not complain, boy You get in trouble with the man Let the midnight pressure Shine a light on me On this edition of Lexington Now, new tennis and pickleball courts, the Kentucky River Clean Sweep, and Pets of the Week. I'm Neil Noah and welcome to Lexington Now for the week of June 22nd, 2026. New tennis and pickleball courts are now open for play. We stop by Bella Woods Park for the ceremony. Today we're celebrating some rebuilt courts that will now accommodate both tennis and pickleball. And these double-striped courts are ideal for neighborhood parks. They allow people to enjoy a variety of recreation in all areas of our city while maximizing our green space. And I said to someone earlier, you've got to pay attention to which game you're playing and which lines you're following, right? Because they're all right here. And these courts were completely rebuilt with new asphalt, the fencing, and a bench. And we have similar courts at Lansdowne Merrick, Mount Tabor, Metathorpe, and Southland Parks. And if you're interested in where all of our sport courts are, I really encourage you to go to the city's website, lexingtonky.gov, and you can just search sport courts, parks, whatever you want to find there. You know, when I first decided to run for office here in the 4th District, one of the first calls I made, what I heard was, you're going to be dealing a lot with the Bella Woods Neighborhood Association. It's all good. And it is. These projects don't happen without the advocacy of those folks. And I want to thank each and every one of them for being here today because it means a lot and our community is better for it. You know, these projects take a long time to come to fruition. They're bigger than any one of us. And so that steadfast advocacy across several different council members has finally paid off thanks to the amazing work of our Parks and Recreation team to create this vital, vital third space here in the 4th District. You know, right now, I think a lot of us are feeling like there is a real distance and divide in our communities, right? We feel isolated and we're struggling with what some folks have termed the loneliness epidemic. And I'm a steadfast believer that you don't solve those problems on Facebook. You don't solve those problems on Nextdoor. You solve those problems by going out and having fun with your neighbors. And so I am so, so proud of our world-class parks department for building these courts so that our neighbors here in the 4th District can come out, connect with each other, and have some summer fun in the summer sun. It's a real joy to be here, and I'm so humbled to have played just a small part in making this project a reality. So thank you so much. With the recent improvements to the tennis courts, which are also, as you heard, now aligned for pickleball play, even more people can enjoy the amenities here at Bellawoods Park. We are very fortunate to have the leadership that values and invests in our public parks. So thank you, Mayor Gordon. Thank you, council members, both past and present. Bellawoods benefits from a vibrant neighborhood association. As Mayor Gordon said, I've had many meetings with neighbors here, and you guys are really engaged. we appreciate that. It helps activate the park. You help activate the park through advocacy, volunteerism, and community involvement. The success of our park system is also possible by countless team members who design, manage, program, and maintain our public spaces. Are you ready? All right, ready? Three, two, one. Folks, we're out and about this past Saturday at the annual Kentucky River Clean Sweep at Kelly's Landing. Randy Rosenbaum was on site and spoke with Lidgreen Lexington's Seth Holbrook about the event. I'm Seth Holbrook, I'm a program coordinator with Lexington's Division of Environmental Services. We're here for River Sweep today, a little event just kind of all about picking up litter and trash from the Kentucky River. Just kind of celebrating water quality and making sure people know that they can get out here and kind of help the city and help our environment by Picking up trash and making things a little cleaner We're just kind of to try to get as many people out on the water as we can we had about a hundred people register with us So we're hoping we can kind of beat that on people showing up and everything But we've got kayaks and canoes ready from some of the cities and some local services And we're hoping people can bring their own canoe kayak whatever they've got, hop out here on the water and see what they can do. We've got our friends from Canoe Kentucky as well as Marine Solutions as well as the Lexington Fire Department all down here all helping us out doing all kinds of great things. People can help out every day in a wide variety of things. You can help out by you know just picking up after yourself making sure you're not producing any litter or anything like that. You can also help out through some the city's volunteer services. We've got things like Creek Sweep where you can get some some litter cleanup materials and things like that directly from the city. We've got some stenciling activities and programs where you can kind of make our storm drains known and make sure that litter's not going down those. Keep your eyes on them through our Adopt-a-Storm Drain program. All kinds of little things you can do all the time to make sure that you're keeping our water clean. Folks can always go to lexingtonky.gov slash livegreen for all kinds of information on any of the programs we're doing. For anything specific, there's always a webpage for it, whether it's lexingtonky.gov slash riversweep or any of the other stuff. Thank you, Seth. Thank you for being out here today. Thanks, everybody, for joining us. We love everybody coming out to these community events and everything, so it's always great to have everyone out here and joining us in some really important work. Pets of the Week are after this. Thank you. Welcome back to Lexington Now. Randy is back as always with our Pets of the Week. Hey everyone, welcome to this week's Lexington-Fayette County Adoptable Pets from LexTV and the Lexington Humane Society. We've got Lisa Frank, white and brown in color, a female, approximate age, four years old, does well with other dogs. Meet and greet is required, does well in apartments, also does well with children. And look at Lola, brown and black in color, a female, approximate age, seven years old, looks like a German shepherd mix. Does well with other dogs in apartments and also does well with children. And look at Katniss Everbark. Brown and white in color. Female. Approximate age two years. Likely an American bully mix. Well with other dogs. Meet and greet required. Does well in apartments and also does well with children of all ages. Thanks for watching these adorable and handsome pets available at LexingtonHumaneSociety.org from LexTV and the Lexington Humane Society. Amelia Armstrong from Historic Preservation joins us with the weekend's events. Hi there, I'm Amelia Armstrong of Historic Preservation. here are some upcoming events this weekend in Lexington and Fayette County for this weekend starting June 20. Please note events that require registration may sell out or fill in advance. Be sure to confirm by visiting lexingtonky.gov backslash calendar. On Saturday, June 27 at 9 a.m., bring your little ones to kindergarten through 5th grade to Raven Run Nature Sanctuary for the Junior Naturalists. This special Pollinator Week event will teach attendees about the life cycles of butterflies and moths and tour the pollinator gardens. Registration is required and available online. And also on Saturday, our last pace in parks will be meeting at the Phoenix Park at 10 a.m. Walkers and runners at all levels are invited to long some of the miles before next week's Bluegrass 10,000 and 5K. Speaking of Phoenix Park, the Bluegrass 10,000 Wellness Expo will begin at 11 a.m. Here you can browse a variety of vendors, take fitness classes at the Pam Miller Downtown Arts Center, and pick up your packets mingled with fellow runners and more. A detailed schedule can be found online. Brunch with the Arts will also take place with live music and food trucks to enjoy. At 2 p.m., join park staff at McConnell Springs for the guided tour of mosses and liverworts that called the park home. At 6 p.m., Here by Design will kick off from the Front Porch Concert Series at Isaac Murphy Memorial Art Garden. Bring your blankets and pack your picnics or grab dinner from the on-site food trucks. Enjoy another free monthly jazz show in the local parks. And lastly, on Sunday, June 28, all participants in the Bluegrass 2000 race can pick up their race packets at the John's Run Walk Shop in Hamburg starting at 10 a.m. On-site sign-up will also be available that day. At 5 p.m., join fellow environmentally-minded community members at the Environmental Commission Awards at McConnell Springs. Networking will begin at 5 with food and awards ceremony starting at 6. I'm Amelia and that's just some of the things going on this weekend in Lexington and Fayette County. You may need to pre-register for some of these events. For more events and more information, be sure to visit LexingtonKY.gov and click the calendar tab at the top. Thanks for watching and we'll see you next week. Amelia also has this week's Meeting Cup. Hi there. I'm Amelia Armstrong of Historic Preservation. Here are our current live meetings scheduled this week, June 22 for LexTV. Remember, you all can watch our live meeting coverage on LexTV channel 185 and always at lexingtonky.gov. On Tuesday, June 23 in the afternoon, watch the Budget, Finance and Economic Development committee meeting at 1 followed by council work session at 3. And on Wednesday morning, June 24th, watch the Technical Review Committee meeting at 8.30 followed by the Transportation Policy Committee meeting in the afternoon at 1.30. And then you can watch the Rural Land Management Board meeting at 3.00. Finishing for the week on Thursday afternoon, June 25th, we'll cover the Planning Commission regarding zoning items at 1.30. That's our current live meeting schedule for LexTV for the week of June 22nd. Watch all our live meeting coverage on LexTV channel 185 or always on LexKY.gov and click the LexTV tab on the top. I'm Amelia and we'll see you next time. That's all for now, but as always, you can keep up with us on social media, check out the latest traffic updates on X at LexRex, or catch our live traffic cams on LexingtonKY.gov. For all of us that like TV, I'm Neil Noah, and that's it for now. She poured her heart and soul into their three-bedroom ranch Spent her days raising babies, ironing his pants Came home one day from the grocery store and found his note And without him there to stop her She let herself go Let herself go On her first blind date Had the time of her life With some friends at the lake Let herself go Buy a brand new car Drove down to the beach He always said was too far And sure felt good between her toes She let herself go On a singles cruise To Vegas once Then to Honolulu Let herself go To New York City A week at the spa Came back, knocked out pretty When he said he didn't love her no more She let herself go To Vegas once Honolulu New York City Came back knocked out pretty Thank you. Days when the rains came, no rain this year. Down in the hollow. Yeah, in the new game. Laughin' and a-runnin'. Skippin' and a-jumpin'. Gettin' up this deep morning far. Yeah, where the heart's all gone. Here was you. The proud-eyed girl. Where'd she go? You're wild, brown-out girl Hey, whatever happens Tuesdays are so slow Throwing down your mind with me Transistor radio Hiding on a slip-leg lane Slipping hotter in the swamp Slippin' in a slide in the air All along the waterfall It was you My brown-eyed girl I see ya You're my brown-eyed girl Let's do it Do you remember it? We used to sing Sha-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la Look it good! So hard to find my way Now that I'm on my own So hard to find my way Now that I'm on my own Thought about it just the other day Where has the time all gone? Lord, take me back there now Sometimes I'm overcome thinking about Naked love in the green grass A key high in the stadium With you My brown eye girl You're my brown eye girl Let's do it, girl You remember when We used to sing Sha-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la Shalalalalalalalalalalala Shalalalalalalalalalalala Shalalalalalalalalalalala guitar solo Girls soccer team, I'm ready! Yeah, girls rule! Thank you. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la All righty. This is a little song, one of the very first ones I wrote down at Key West. We haven't played this song in quite a while, but I kind of wanted to do it. And it reminds me of my old days down at the Keys way back when. And contrary to rumors and things in the paper, I still go down there quite a bit. There's a little thing called 10 Cubs Chalice about seeing that sunset for the very first time down there at the end of Mallory Square. I'll take you there right now if I can. There's not a lot of things to do I wouldn't rather do with you Guess I'm funny that way Lately I just sit and stare I talk to people who aren't there To get through one night a day One night a day One step away From leaving you behind Sit up with the radio Sing along with the ones I know To get through one night a day I'm calling every friend I've had I wake them up and make them mad To let them know that I'm okay I used to sit and talk to you But they're all just a substitute To get through one night a day One night a day One step away From leaving you behind I stay up with a late, late show Just another way I know To get through one night a day To get through one night of me Thank you. Thank you. I'm sorry. With a short little note said I had a good time It was written in lipstick red She didn't sign her name, I wonder If that's a little secret that she keeps Ooh, she's walking around in my sleep Dream walking, pillow talking She's calling my name again Day is breaking I ain't breaking up I'm sleeping in I'm on a roll now I gotta know how this dream ends She took my new sunglasses And my old jean jacket And she never even bothered to ask You could say I haven't seen her since late last summer But every night she comes back Just like smoke through the keyhole She slips in so silently She's walking around in my sleep Dream walking Little talking She's calling my name again Day is breaking I ain't looking up I'm sleeping in I'm on a roll now I gotta know how this dream ends Oh, there's a bitter line between dreams and memories I'll be losing my mind until she comes back to me Dream walking, pillow talking She's calling my name again The day's breaking I ain't waking up I'm sleeping in I'm on a roll now I gotta know how this dream ends I'm on a roll now I gotta know how this dream ends I'm on the road now I gotta know how this dream ends She's walking around in my sleep Hey, it's Fajan Nikova and we're back with another episode of Your Lex PD. And we are here for season three. I love it. Season three. Who would have thought when we first started this, right? But we've had a great time with it, and we appreciate everybody. We appreciate the chief and all the chief staff for supporting the project. We appreciate all the people that have been on the project with us, all the different interviews that we've done, and LexTV. I know we mentioned them at the end of Season 2, but LexTV does a phenomenal job. What a team they have and what a team when they work with us. and we want to thank you, the viewers out there, everybody that's watching the show, all the comments that we get, the people that come up to us and say they watch it. We appreciate that. If you have any ideas on some of the episodes in the future that you'd like to see or things you want to learn more about, reach out to us and let us know because this is about you and your Lex PD and you learning about our agency and how we work together. And I would love that. And so this season we're kind of going to focus on public safety partnerships. So we're going to start off this season with E911. Yeah, and when we talk about partnerships, we're very blessed in Lexington with all the different partnerships we have, both within the Lexington-Fade Urban County government and then also just in the community itself, all the folks and all the partnerships that we have. Very, very important to make it all work together. We're going to highlight some of the things and specialized units and so forth over the next few episodes and over the next season. but yeah that partnership and the one we're starting with today that's where you know I remember when we did the patrol episode I said it all begins here well it actually almost always begins there because it begins when you call 9-1-1 and the folks that you're going to be talking to and how they're going to dispatch that whether it's a police call fire call so I'm excited about talking with our enhanced 9-1-1 center today on your Lex PD. So let's go talk to them. Hey, and it's Bajan Niko, and we are back, and we are here with some of the people that work at E911. So we are going to talk to the director, Ms. Janelle Patton. How are you doing today? I am doing fabulous today. Thank you for asking. So glad to have you here with us today, talking with us. I'm glad to be here today. So you are the director of E911. Can you tell us how you came to be in that position? Yes. It's been a long road. I started in 1999, the year before the world was supposed to end. And I started as a police dispatcher. I took a promotion to a supervisor. I enjoyed that position as well, and I became a PSAP manager. And then ultimately I became the director in 2021. Nice. Well, congratulations on your promotion. Thank you. So what does, I know I say E911, what does the E stand for? E stands for enhanced. And what enhanced means, it's you're able to get location information. So when a call comes in, of course, you're going to get a phone number. Enhanced, it actually shows the latitude and longitude. in case the caller has difficulty providing that location information. It's also integrated now with GIS mapping systems, which makes locating people a lot easier. I think Lexington was one of the first E911s in the state, is it right? It was. Okay. It was. And that's very significant because you all get calls all the time where people don't really know where they are. particularly if they're not from Lexington, if they're on the interstate, things like that. So that helps maybe save somebody's life. It does. It does. And now with AI technology and just all of the cutting-edge technology, we're able to do a whole lot, a whole lot. Well, when you look in this room, you haven't been around as long as I have, but you do remember the old 911 center. And so things have changed a lot. I think everything at one point from the police side was contained at police headquarters downtown, and the fire department was over at Station 1, I believe, at one point. Yes, I'm sure. So when did all that change, and has it made a big difference? It all changed in 2015. Fire Department dispatchers actually came to police headquarters and we all started dispatching out of that location. In 2016, we moved to this brand new facility and it definitely has made things better. Having everyone in the same room when an incident occurs, it's vital to communication. And this building is unique in that it has everyone that is really providing a customer service response in the event of an emergency. We're all here together. So it definitely has made a difference. And it's obviously state-of-the-art, all kinds of stuff. Yes. I've been over here. So for anybody out there that maybe is thinking about being a telecommunicator, being a call taker dispatcher, what kind of training goes into that? And you've got a lot of personnel. How many personnel do you have? I have 81 personnel. Okay. And so I'm sure there's a lot of training involved. There is. There is a state mandatory training that you have to be a certified telecommunicator in the state of Kentucky. And that right now is four weeks of training at Department of Criminal Justice Training Center. That teaches you the basics of being a telecommunicator. There are a few cities in the state that split the duties up. Lexington is one of those. We have call takers and we have dispatchers. Of course, call takers are talking to the citizens and dispatchers are talking to responders. And that is strictly due to volume. So some of the smaller agencies, they do it. One person dispatches in, does the call taking as well. But we are hiring right now. So if you like a fast-paced environment, you want a steady career, you want to provide a service to citizens and responders, it's a great career. It's a great career. Awesome. So when should people call 911 and when should they not? I know it seems like, yeah, you call 911 for emergencies, but. Yes. And life or death emergencies. and also times when something is going on criminally. Something is going on where harm can be done to an individual. You know, we always say, you know, if you see something, say something. If you feel like you need to call 911, definitely call. But if it's not an emergency, if it's for a report, if it's for some type of instruction or a question, there's other means that can be used, like the administrative number. And I've heard we would have people call, they're stuck in traffic, and they would call 911 and say, why am I stuck in traffic? That is not a reason to call 911. That is true. So that was a good question as to why, right? But if you, and I always tell people when I'm at neighborhood meetings and so forth, if you have to stop and think, should I call a non-emergency or 911, just go ahead and call 911. If it's close enough that you really don't know if it's an emergency, it may be. So now we are here because you had mentioned call takers. So we are here with Michelle Haynes. Thank you for joining us today. You're welcome. And so you are a call taker, correct? Yes. So can you tell us how you came into your position? Okay, so I started in 2009. I had a friend that was in dispatch and was like, you need to come work with me. So I came and listened with her, and it was a lot different and a lot of different variety that I didn't get and buy their job. Well, you know, when people call 911 many, many times, it's the worst day of their life. something tragic has happened something significant is going on they're not always in the frame of mind that they they live in so you as a call taker I'm sure you've experienced some unbelievable things that you've had to do deal with over the phone and talk people through encourage them support them until first responders could get there so what would you what would you say about your job what is it I mean obviously it has to be stressful it is stressful sometimes you laugh with the callers um you know they'll call me like I don't know what else who else to ask and it'll be like this the weirdest smallest thing or it's something simple like I helped a guy get home that was in a motorized wheelchair and lost his way he literally just needed to keep going straight and I just stayed on the phone with him and I got a compliment from it because he was very thankful. So sometimes people call in and they're freaked out and they're young and they just had their first accident and, you know, you just calm them down. So not every call is going to be highly, highly stressed or terrible. I had a really terrible one just about 20 minutes ago. But, you know, it bounces out and sometimes they're thankful and it makes you appreciate, you know, hey, I got to help somebody today or my life has a purpose, my job has a purpose. Well, I know on patrol, we appreciate it. So how do you all prioritize, I guess, the calls that you do get? Because some people call and they think, oh, I've talked to the dispatcher. And I was like, you did not talk to a dispatcher. You talked to a call taker. They don't understand the difference. And a lot of my friends think I work in dispatch, you know, because they don't understand the call taking and, you know, and dispatching. So when people call 911, they expect a response right away. Whether it's 911 or administrative, we are the same people. So even though you don't have an emergency or you do have an emergency, we're going to prioritize how we need it. So, yes, if you're in a car wreck and you're on the shoulder and you're out of traffic, it's going to be a lower priority. The higher priority calls are going to be if you're in traffic, you could easily get hit. Sometimes we're like, we've been doing high priority for welfare checks on individuals because it's been so cold. So they're worried about the homeless that have been out in the elements for a long period of time. High priorities are like if suspects are somewhere, like if a crime just happened and the suspect still might be around, or a domestic violence situation where the person that they were arguing with might be around, they'll put them in danger. So those are high priorities. So other than just prioritizing it, then you have to make the decision whether it goes to a fire dispatcher or a police dispatcher. Is that right? Correct. and sometimes we we have um the cape we have the capability to put them both on a call okay okay which i guess like a an accident with injuries or an accident with injuries we'll definitely send fire department and police um i had a call several years ago that the young girl had an accident and she was hypervillain on me and it was a non-injury accident but i ended up sending an ambulance because i couldn't get her calmed down just to make sure she was checked out and okay Right. So sometimes, you know, we just we add to the call because, you know, you've got police going and then all of a sudden they say something. No, there's blood on their face or that they might have an injury, might need to get checked out. So we just we just send the fire department to. So when you call 911 and you hear 911, what's your emergency? That's you. What do you want to hear? What are the questions that are very, very important of where you're at or where your emergency is? OK, that's number one. Right. Because if we don't know where to go. We have wonderful maps that can almost pinpoint exactly where you are. But if you're in an apartment, I can't tell what apartment you're in. So the big thing is a lot of people don't know their apartment numbers. So, you know, I have to have them look at the door or look at their mail. So it's a good idea to just know your address. And depending on the capabilities of the phone, if it's an older phone and not the best service, I might can get close, but I don't think it's where they're exactly at. So it's a good idea to always know your address, always know your surroundings. We get a lot of people say, I'm not from here. But if you can tell me, like, what business you're around or what you see around you, I can pinpoint usually where you are. I grew up here, so I'm very familiar with the streets. And we have this wonderful thing called Google Maps that we can pull up. Okay, I think you're at the Speedway and something else. So I can pull up the map and make sure I'm correct in my head. Or somebody that's not from here that works here can figure it out. So you don't necessarily need to know the address, but you just need to tell me what you see, because I don't see what you see. So you tell me what you see, and we can figure out where you're at. I'd like to interject just for a second, because Michelle, she does a great job. And a lot of times, callers, they don't understand why we're asking the questions. You know, they just want to say, just get me somebody out here now. Well, we're asking those questions, number one, to keep the callers safe and to keep the responders safe. and keep them apprised. We are dispatching when we get the location. We have the capability to keep adding to the call, so responders are actually on the way. We just want a picture of the scene so we can relay that to the responders. So you're typing information in and the dispatcher's already getting it and talking to either the police officer or the firefighter before you get off the phone. So it's not one of those things that we're not going to tell anybody until we get off the phone. Right. Okay. Sometimes they're still on the phone. I've arrived on calls, and they still have the call taker on. I'm like, oh, it's Officer Owings. I'm here. And they're like, okay, I'm going to let you go. And I'm like, oh, that's nice. I stay on the phone with them because they may be freaking out for whatever reason. We keep them calm or situation changes. You know, when we first get the call dispatched, the person's in the house, and now they're down the street. And so the officers need to know that. And everybody thinks because we ask questions, yes, we're not coming. But it's because we are coming, and we might get to you faster. The more questions you ask, the better location we can get, the quicker you can get response. All right. Well, very good information. Lexington is blessed to have the 911 system, the enhanced 911 system that we have, and the folks that work here. You know, I've been around for a long time. There's still a few voices that I remember from back in the day on the radio and understanding the importance of what you all do for both the callers and both for the first responders as well. So we appreciate everything you do as far as coordinating and being the director of the Enhanced 911 and everything you do as far as being a call taker. So thank you all very much for joining us today. Thank you. Thank you. And we are back, and we just talked to the E-911 director and the call taker. So now we are going to talk to Jessica Carreras with dispatch. So can you tell us how you became a dispatcher? Started as a call taker for about six months, then got promoted to telecommunicator senior, police dispatch. And I've now been doing that for about three years, been here about three and a half. You like it? Love it. It's interesting. You never know what you're going to get from day to day. Yeah. Well, you know, we talked to the call taker, and the call taker is the one obviously dealing with the person that is having the emergency and the stress that's involved with that. But you're our lifeline as far as making sure that the officer knows where to go and making sure that the officer is safe and maybe gets backup or whatever they need. So what are some of the things that you have dealt with that are some of the stressors in your job that can make for a difficult day? My biggest thing is responder safety. I want to make sure everyone goes home at the end of the day, regardless of how I feel, what I'm going through. Leave it at the door. Biggest thing for me is location. I don't really mind what you're doing, who you're out with. Just let me know where you are. Because if you yell for help, if you start chasing someone, shots fired, because I've had those calls before, those will just pump the adrenaline, make your heart stop, and you really just want to get there and get people to them as quick as possible. and as a patrolman that's yeah that's why i trained my recruits to our probationary officers was like location location location location because whatever the last location you gave is where they're going to send help and you may be five blocks from there so that car is not stopping give every block that oh we're turning here we're turning here oh we're in this parking lot now they'll update your location so location is very important for us as well yes if i have to we're going to hold the traffic until we get someone to you if we can't find out where you are That's been a trend today because we talked about the importance of who's calling, making sure that you give us location, but it's also the first responders obviously knowing our location as well. Yes. So we talked a little bit about the training involved in this. So you went to, is it, you go to Richmond for a period of time? DLCJT, four weeks. They certify you and train you on how to handle stress, high priority calls, radio etiquette, just stuff like that. And we're lucky here in Lexington, again, we talked about it being an enhanced 911, so that helped. There's a lot more to learn here, I'm sure, from a telecommunicator side as well. Yes, a lot of information coming at you. So we are here with Paul Hamilton with Fire Dispatch. Thank you for joining us. Can you tell us how you came to be in your position? I came down and started working as a fire dispatcher, and I've been here for 10 years. So we talked a little bit about what a police dispatcher does and the type of communications they deal with as far as working with the officers. So tell us a little bit about the fire department and what goes on with that after the call comes in to 911. I think they parallel quite a bit because we work hand-in-hand with the police dispatchers, but the big difference is every call for service that we get, we're going to dispatch on within 90 seconds. The same concerns, you know, getting the information as to where we're going, if there are any responder safety issues, are there any firearms on scene, are there any knives, are there any biohazards there, you have gas situations. So most of the times in those priority calls, we'll have police going as well. So both Jessica and my job now becomes taking care of both sides of the equation. We have to communicate with her to make sure police officers are safe. She has to communicate with us to make sure our responders are safe. Well, a lot of people, I'm not sure everybody understands that in Lexington, fire services are both the fire department and EC, emergency care units, which are ambulances. So you're dealing with both of those. Yeah, and one unique thing about Lexington, and I believe all of our engines have paramedics on it. And I think this is one of five cities in the United States that have paramedics on their engines. So if this is a critical situation like a chest pain, we're going to send an EC. We have 13 ECs spread throughout the county. We have 24 first responders that we can send. So geographically, we can get a first responder in an engine or a ladder that are quicker that has a paramedic on it to start rendering care before we get on scene. Now, Lexington, like I said, is unique in that we're one of four or five, I think, cities in the United States that does that. We get a lot of questions about that. Why are they sending a fire truck? Well, it's because we're helping people before we can get an ambulance there. and the quicker we can get assistance, the quicker medical care can start, obviously the better outcome we're going to have. And we talked a little bit about the stressors of the job and, you know, the fire department. And as both of you all said, we go to a lot of the same calls, whether it's collisions with injuries or various things. We go to a lot of the same types of calls. But what are some of the stressors that you deal with as far as from dispatching from the fire side? It's similar to Jessica. We want to know where you are. We are unique in that we have GPS, so we can see where their truck is at all times. We can zoom to them on the map. But sometimes when they go into buildings, my great stressor is silence. When I'm calling out on the radio and I don't get a response back, Sometimes, you know, they're in, you know, these big, you know, UK hospitals. Sometimes the radio is not going to work inside. Sometimes, you know, there's a lot going on at the scene. And I'll say, Jessica, hey, holler at your officers. Have them check to make sure my responders are safety. She'll do the same thing. Hey, I can't reach them on the radio. Ask your responders if they see the officer and if he's okay. So in that regard, we have to really make sure we mesh what we do and communicate with whoever the dispatcher is that has that sector that's on scene with our responders. Well, you know, I would like to say that we are a team. And the entire public safety community in Lexington is a team. And we all work together. We all have functions. And, you know, we appreciate and the community appreciates what you all do as far as taking those calls all the way from the call taker into getting officers, getting the fire department on scene, making sure that the folks there are safe, making sure that we're safe. And so we appreciate everything you all do. And we want to thank you for joining us today. Thanks for having us. All right. Baj, it was so good talking to the folks at E911. I learned a lot even being on patrol, how the setup is down here and everything. Yeah, and again, we're very fortunate in Lexington to have that enhanced 911 and having the people behind the phone calls, people behind the mics talking to us, just great, great team down here at Communications. So the folks out there in Lexington are very fortunate, and we're very fortunate, too, as first responders. And how important location is. Absolutely. Absolutely. Don't forget that. So, Baj, what are we going to talk about next month? Well, the whole public safety team is a lot of different functions, a lot of different people. But the whole police team involves a lot of different people, too. And you think about sworn, uniformed officers and detectives and all when you think about the police department. but we have a whole lot of folks that are behind the scenes that do amazing work and so much for the police department so next month we're going to be talking about some of our civilian personnel and some of the different functions they have it may surprise a lot of folks things that they do to help us and help the the actual folks out in lexington too from that perspective as opposed to just seeing the uniform and then from there we got all kinds of different episodes but i think that's so important to focus on those folks because they play a very very key role yes they do so join us next month for another episode of your Lex PD I'm out. Every time I'm with you, baby, I can't believe it's true. When you're laying on my arms and you do the things you do, you can see it in my eyes, I can feel it in your touch. You don't have to say a thing, just let me show how much. I love you. I need you. I want to kiss you all alone And over again I want to kiss you all alone Till the night closes in Till the night closes in Stay with me, lie with me, holding me, loving me, baby Here with me, near with me, feeling you close to me, baby So show me, show me everything you do Cause baby, no one does it quite like you I love you I need you Oh baby I wanna kiss you all alone And over again I wanna kiss you all alone Till the night closes in He came from somewhere back in her long ago He sat up as a fool, don't see Trying hard to recreate what had yet to be created Once in her life she musters a smile for his nostalgic tear Never coming near what he wanted to say Only to realize it never really was She had a place in his life He never made nothing worse Thank you. Hey y'all, it's your Vice Mayor Dan Wu. And I'm Dave Savigni, the Council Member for the 10th District and we are here in the Music Capital of Lexington. Well Dave, that's a pretty big claim. Can you back that up? I sure can! We're here at the Moon Dance Amphitheater in Beaumont, home to a whole slew of musical activities, including Big Band and Jazz on Tuesday nights through June 30th. We've got Southland Jamboree on Thursday nights through September 3rd. and we've got summer nights in suburbia every other friday through september 18th all of these events are free and open to the public wow that's a lot of events in one place but wait dan there's more we even have tall sound which is a music festival that takes place behind alika shrine on southland drive and it's generally on the fourth sunday of the month i think you almost convinced me. There's even more Dan. We actually have Woodsong's Old Time Radio Hour which takes place on Rosemont Garden at the old Scottish Rite Building on most Mondays. Okay that settles it. The 10th district is definitely Lexington's music capital. We'll be right back. neighborhood looking to hear from the neighbors of Smithtown both those in the that currently live here that used to live here in the past but then those other connected to Smithtown and our main goal today is to take steps towards preserving the history and the culture of Smithtown through many different efforts one through policy two through making sure that we can try to bring some type of capital investment that actually preserves the history and culture of Smithtown but then three I'm trying to make sure that we get input towards what resources needed so that folks can live comfortably in the homes and in the places that they live here in Smithtown. So multi-function solutions we're looking to do here at Smithtown. But at the end of the day, we're looking to preserve the history and culture of Smithtown. And the first step, what we want to do is listen to neighbors here in Smithtown and those that have been connected to Smithtown. So this all started first, you know, actually in February 2025, where I initiated the legislative item, Anti-Displacement and Vulnerable Neighborhood Preservation. And that item was initiated because we've seen a lot of our vulnerable neighborhoods here in the city of Lexington are facing pressures of growth. So we wanted to dive into the issue of how we can preserve the history and culture of some of our neighborhoods, but then also how we can make sure that we can address that challenge of displacement, making sure that folks have resources to live comfortably where they are. In that process, my office worked with Councilmember James Brown's office in the Office of Planning, And we dive into the to the challenge. And we realize that a lot of the tools in the toolbox to combat gentrification, to combat displacement and just to combat trying to preserve, you know, different neighborhoods just don't work for some of our undervalued neighborhoods. So we wanted to come up with a solution. So we started at square one and that's listening to the community, listen to the neighbors, listen to what do you want to preserve? What is important? What is historic about this neighborhood? All the great things. And then I'm trying to get that input and then putting that into action, whether that be through capital investments, whether that be through expanding resources, or whether that be through creating policy so that we know in the future, if growth comes, when growth comes, those developers have access to community input, have access to information and context of how this neighborhood, how these neighbors want to grow in the future. So, yeah, today we're having a community event here in the Smithtown neighborhood. and it's part of the Neighborhood Voices Project that the Division of Planning alongside the offices of council members Morton and Brown are working on to basically uplift the history of neighborhoods and do a little bit of proactive community engagement in neighborhoods, especially those that are experiencing development pressure. So the outreach and strategic planning section of the Division of Planning is the newest section And so we've only been around for a little over a year. And this is exactly the type of work that we want to be doing, is like meeting people where they're at, out in the community, talking to people, trying to get as many people as possible engaged in the planning process, because we really believe that, you know, the planning process works best when, you know, folks have a voice and, you know, just really trying to engage as many people as possible. So that's why we're out here in Smithtown today. I think today's event is kind of follow through on the work that we did with neighborhoods in transition, the mayor's commission on racial justice and equality, the subcommittee on housing and gentrification. When you're talking about neighborhoods that are vulnerable and are seeing a lot of change, it's good to hear from the folks that have historically lived in the neighborhood, have a tie to the neighborhood and have grown up in the neighborhood to tell us what the neighborhood used to be, the history, share some of that insight, but then also talk about what the neighborhood could be going forward for the future and how it can adjust and absorb some of the change that's happening. So I can see this being a model that's going to go throughout the city and being something that we can do in other neighborhoods to empower the neighborhoods to tell the city, developers, or whoever else coming into the neighborhood on what their neighborhood used to be, what it is, the history, and what it could be for the future. I'll just give a shout-out to Councilmember Morton on the back for this initiative. and then also the planning department. Our planning department came to the table with him and myself and actually brainstormed and worked together to create this initiative. So I just want to give him some credit for this and give our planning department a lot of credit for this. Thank you. I've been in the right place, but it must have been the wrong time. I done said the right thing, but it must have used the wrong line. I've been on the right trip, but it must have used the wrong car. Head is in a bad place, and I wonder what's good for. I've been in the right place, but it must have been the wrong time. My head is in a bad place, but it's been such a good time. I've been running trying to catch hung up in my mind Just got to give myself a good talking to this time Just need a little brain salicyltery Got to cue my insecurity I've been in the wrong place But it must have been the right time I've been in the right place But it must have been the wrong song I've been in the right place But it seems like wrong, wrong I've been in the right world But it seems like wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong Slipping, dodging, sneaking, peeping, hiding out down the street. See my life shaking with every who I meet. Refrain confusion is making itself clear. Wonder which way to go to get on out of here. I've been in a right place, but it must have been the wrong time. And I don't say the right thing, but I must have used the wrong line. I took the right road, but I must have took the wrong train. I took a right move, but I made it at the wrong time. I've been in a right trip, but I made it in the wrong call. It isn't a good place. I'm out. But what you got is all so sweet You gotta make it hot Like a boomerang I need a repeat Give me all your lovin' All your hugs and kisses too Give me all your lovin' Don't let up until you You gotta whip it up And hit me like a tunneling If I blow my top Will you let it go to your head? Give me all your loving All your hugs and kisses too Give me all your loving Don't let up until we do guitar solo We'll be right back. Use it like a school ball would. You've got to pack it up. Work it like a new boy should. Give me all your loving, all your hugs and kisses to love. Give me all your loving, don't let up until it is. We'll be right back. We'll see you next time. Thank you. I used to be such a sweet, sweet thing So they got a hold of me I opened doors for little old ladies I held the blind to see I got no friends cause they read the papers They can't be seen With me And I'm getting real shot down And I'm feeling mean No more Mr. Nice Guy No more Mr. Glee No more Mr. Nice Guy They say he's sick He's obscene I got no friends cause they read the papers They can't be seen with me And I'm feeling real shot down And I'm getting mean No more Mr. Night Sky No more Mr. Glee No more, Mr. Nice Guy, they say He's sick, he's a sea My dog beat me on the red today My cat clawed my eyes Mom's been thrown out of the sofa, she said girl And Dad has to hide I went to church, incognito When everybody rose Reverend Smithy He recognized me And punched me in the nose He said No more Mr. Nice Guy No more Mr. Glee No more Mr. Nice Guy He said You're sick You're sick No more Mr. Nice Guy No more with the B No more with the nice guy He said, you're sick, you'll see My baby makes me proud, Lord, don't she make me proud. She never makes a scene by hanging all over me in a crowd. Cause people like to talk Oh, don't they love to talk But when they turn out the lights I know she'll be reading with me And when we get behind closed doors Then she lets her hair hang out And she makes me glad that I'm a man Oh, no one knows what goes on behind closed doors My baby makes me smile Lord, don't you make me smile She's never far away Or too tired to say I want you. She's always a lady, just like what ladies should be. But when they turn off the lights, she's still a baby to me. Cause when we get behind closed doors Then she lets her hat hang down And she makes me glad that I'm a man Oh, no one knows what goes on behind closed doors Behind closed doors I'm a man. And to say I need you, darling So come go with me Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa Come, come, come, come Come into my heart Come in, darling We will never die I need you, darling So come go with me Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa Yes, I need you Yes, I really need you Please, may you never leave me Well, may you never Yes, you really never You never give me a chance Come, come, come, come Come into my heart Call me, darling We will never die I need you, darling Come and go with me Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa You never give me a chance The love, darling, darling Come and go, baby Come, hold on me Baby, I'm just kidding I'm darling, darling Come on, don't believe Come on, don't believe Come on, don't believe Come on, don't believe Just the other night at a hometown football game, my wife and I ran into my old high school play. And as I introduced them, the past came back to me, and I couldn't help but think of the way things used to be. She was the one that I'd wanted for all times And each night I'd spend praying that God would make her mine And if he'd only grant me this wish I wished back then I'd never ask for anything again Sometimes I thank God For unanswered prayers Remember when you're talking To the man who stares And just because he doesn't answer Doesn't mean he don't care The sum of God's greatest skill Our unanswered prayer She wasn't quite the angel That I remembered in my dreams And I could tell the time changed me In her eyes to it seemed We tried to talk about the old days Wasn't much we could recall I guess the Lord knows what he's doing after all And as she walked away Well, I looked at my wife And then and there I thanked the good Lord For the gifts in my life Sometimes I thank God for unanswered prayers. Remember when you're talking to the man upstairs. And just because he may not answer doesn't mean he don't care. Some of God's greatest gifts are unanswered Some of God's greatest gifts are all too often unanswered Some of God's greatest gifts are unanswered prayers I'm not a man. While I live right above you I can hear your music playing I can feel your body swaying One floor below me You don't even know me I love you Oh my darling Not three times on the ceiling If you want me Twice all the fight If the answer is no Oh my sweetness Means you'll meet me in the hallway Oh, twice on the pipe Means you ain't gonna show If you look out your window tonight Pulling the string with the note That's attached to my heart Read how Thank you. We're good. Okay. Call to order Transportation Policy Committee meeting June 24, 2026. Going to our agenda. First action item would be approval of the meeting minutes from April 29, 2026 TPC meeting. Second. All in favor, signify by raising your right hand. All opposed? Motion carries. Okay. Second action item, we have resolution 2026-5, approval of proposed Amendment 3 to the Lexington Area Transportation Improvement Program for fiscal years 2025 through 2028. Staff presentation. Mr. Avila. All right. So just as a quick reminder, the Transportation Improvement Program is the implementation part of the transportation planning process. These are projects that have previously been identified as part of our Metropolitan Transportation Plan and are either ready or funded to proceed to some phase of implementation. And just to go over project readiness, today what we're going to be talking about are two projects with right-of-way acquisition, ready to move forward. And so in order to be able to do that, not only do you need the money in place for that phase of work, But the design, or at least the preliminary design, needs to be complete, and you need to have environmental review pretty much complete as well. One of the other things for our tip that you, the Policy Board, directed us to do is to do a review of that preliminary design before we start talking about including right-of-way utility or construction phases in the tip. Basically, what we're looking for are things like complete street best practices. Are we providing for bicyclists, pedestrians, public transportation where appropriate? We're also looking at safety. Our goal is to eliminate fatal and serious injury crashes by the year 2050. So do these designs help us move in that direction? And not only do staff provide a review, we also do this review with our TTCC technical committee, and we will present both of their recommendations to you today on these two projects. So we have the first, okay, two work phases for right-of-way. I've already covered that. Winchester Road and New Circle Road. Quick map showing where these are. Winchester Road is from Polo Club Boulevard over to Haley Road, which is also known as Kentucky 859. In the MTP, we actually have this separated out into two projects, and that may be fortuitous because, as we'll mention, funding's a little tight over in Frankfurt right now, so it's quite possible we may have to split this into two phases when we get to the construction phase. The New Circle Road project, wrong button, starts at, this is Trade Center Drive. So it's a little bit south of Winchester Road, and it goes to the R.J. Corman Railroad overpass that's in between Liberty Road and Palumbo Drive. The big part of this project, besides a major widening, is also an overpass for Liberty Road, and we'll go through that and a little bit why that's kind of the preferred alternative. we'll start with winchester road this is a major widening uh it's going from two to four lanes not four to six lanes as we had a typo in our uh information sheet um it does add a shared use path on the south side of the roadway as far as cleveland road um and we'll talk about that in a in a second here because we did have an ask of District 7 as we move forward. The big changes are several modifications to some of the intersections along that, and we'll walk through that in a second as far as what's changing. And we've already mentioned that we may have to split the construction phase when we're ready into two separate projects because of fiscal constraints. This is a $51 million project when we add up all the costs together That's part of why we're having that conversation about splitting the project in two So let's go through the various interchanges here Because that's the most significant change that we're talking about Besides adding a lane in each direction The Manowar intersection is the first one that we want to talk about This is currently what's called a Green T intersection. What it allows westbound traffic to do is go through the intersection without having to slow down or stop. There's no conflict point there. But the left turns both cross where the eastbound lanes also cross through the intersection here. We did express a concern to District 7 about that being a fairly significant conflict point, and this is still going to be a somewhat high-speed roadway. And so we asked if there's a possibility to consider another design alternative. And the answer is yes. They are willing to look at reconfiguring this as a RCUT-type design instead, which would greatly reduce the number of conflict points and still maintain a pretty good flow of traffic through this intersection for Winchester Road. Bigger right-of-way cost. And if I remember correctly, this property here at the corner here, it's a historic property, so there's a significant constraint at that particular location. In our cut, the right-of-way is pretty much the same as what you're seeing here. And plus, we also have some desire to make sure that flow through this intersection for Winchester Road remains okay. A roundabout would definitely slow things down, and we do have a couple of roundabouts in here for consideration. but the R-cut is what District 7 said they were willing to consider. So the next intersection is the Bahama Road intersection and this is proposed to be a roundabout and this should be a big help for the folks in this subdivision here in terms of trying to get out of their subdivision. This also will help slow things down on this section of Winchester Road. Royster Road is another roundabout but you'll notice that the intersection is kind of being pushed to the west a bit and the reason for that is related to the next intersection that we're going to to review and that's the Cleveland Road intersection and what you have here is this is an R-cut design and you have a Loon out here to the west and that's pretty close to where go back to Royster Road, where the Royster Road intersection is. So the Royster Road roundabout is being shifted to the west basically to minimize that conflict, the potential of conflict between those two intersection designs. The final intersection we want to talk about is Haley Road, which is half an ARCUT. and part of the reason for that is this is the terminus of this project. You do have a loon here so that traffic coming from Haley Road that wants to head towards Winchester would have to turn right and then make a U-turn but traffic coming from Lexington wanting to get onto Haley Road and over towards I-64 would have a left turn lane. They would not have to go past the intersection and then make a U-turn. Now, that may be something to consider in the future because I think the long-term plan is to have Winchester Road as four lanes all the way to Clark County and the western bypass around Winchester. But that's quite a ways out in terms of timing. So that can be considered at the appropriate time. we do want to talk a little bit about the urban growth master plan for area two here if you recall that plan has a concept for haley road that as it comes across i-64 then curves away from its current alignment to come back through the proposed development and at least the concept brings it into a brand new intersection which happens to be about two 250 feet east of the existing Polo Club Boulevard intersection. Unfortunately, that's too close. They're just too many conflicts to make that work. Very complicated signal timing pattern to make that work. And so what District 7 has told us that we'll have to consider is basically aligning this to basically come down this kind of curved road instead that lines up with Polo Club Boulevard. That's where your main intersection will be. And because of that, there's going to be enough traffic coming through that Polo Club intersection that the proposed design is more of a traditional signalized intersection at that location just because trying to accommodate that volume of traffic through something like a roundabout and an orcut would be potentially problematic. So staff is recommending approval, at least for the right-of-way phase here. We do have a couple of things that we've asked District 7 to reconsider about the design. And so when we're ready to talk about construction phase, entering that in the tip, we're going to have another review of this project before we bring this back to you. but we feel that outside of Manowar, we feel that the intersection designs do a pretty good job of addressing conflict points in speed. We do want to talk a little bit about shared use paths because when this design phase was started, there was not an urban area expansion on the table yet for Area 2. That's changed, and so one of the things that we've asked the district is to add a shared use path on the north side of Winchester Road, at least as far as approximately where Channel 27 is, which is about where the expansion area ends. We talked about the possibility of having both shared use paths, both on the north and south side, going all the way to the end of this project. The challenge we've got there is some new guidance that's coming to us from D.C. about bicycle and pedestrian projects. And inside the urban area, no problem. In a very rural setting, however, the concern from D.C. is that these are more recreational projects, not transportation projects. And as such, recreational funds should be handling those types of projects. And so there's some question about the continued eligibility of federal funds for bike-ped facilities in rural contexts. So that's just one of the challenges that we're kind of navigating here in the new world that we're in right now. So just to make you aware of that. All right. Let's talk about New Circle Road. This is also a major widening project. Yes. Before we get to New Circle, I want to follow up with what Council Member Brown said about the roundabout there. Could you explain again why? Because Bahama and Manowar is not really a long distance between those two. Right. Yeah. So there is an additional right-of-way cost associated with that. and I think the question was kind of traffic flow through the Manowar intersection. It's going to be more traffic coming through that intersection than you're going to have in Bahama and Royster. And so trying to make sure that that intersection operates adequately, I think, was the concern. And I guess would you say there was some – the property there had national historic – It has historic significance, so you don't want to touch that. Right. Okay. All right. Thanks. Hi. When you're talking about doing the things on Royster Road, I know that in fiscal court we have a couple of things slated for Royster Road. Does this dovetail with that, or do you all know about that? Okay. Well, we're aware that there's a request for an interchange off of I-64 where Royster Road crosses. No, I don't mean that. I just mean that we have some road repair slated. Maybe not this year because we only have $400,000 in the budget. Right. But Royster's kind of up next, kind of. So do you work with that or coordinate because maybe this would help? Well, this is probably still at least four years away from construction, maybe a little bit longer. Rob, is that a good time frame? Yeah, so four years. So if you've got some repairs to do, you're probably still going to need to do them. Sorry, I wish I had a better answer for you. Okay. Let me go to New Circle. Okay, so New Circle, this is from Trade Center to the R.J. Corman overpass. This is also a major widening project. This one's going from four to six lanes. And then what it does is it constructs an overpass for Liberty Road to go up and over. And so there's some connection roads that are necessary to be able to provide that connection from Liberty down to New Circle Road. And we'll kind of show you what that looks like here. It does add a shared use path on both sides of New Circle Road. And the concept is that at some point, at least for the signalized section of New Circle, we will have continuous shared use paths along that entire section. but that's going to be done a little bit piecemeal here as projects enter the pipeline here. If there's an opportunity to do something sooner, we'll investigate that, but that's kind of where we're heading right now. Did you say every road is up and over? That's correct, and we'll show you what that looks like in a second here. This is a $54 million project here. Overpasses are expensive. And you may recall that the original project here actually went from Trade Center all the way down to Woodhill near Richmond Road. You can approximately double the cost to get an idea of how much that combined project would be. So, again, fiscal constraint being an issue. this project is being cut off at the RJ Corman overpass. So here's what we're looking at for the Liberty Road interchange here. So as I mentioned, Liberty Road, here we go, goes up and over New Circle, which means that in order to get from Liberty to New Circle, you have to have a brand new road here constructed on the east side. it starts off where Wilderness and Christian Road come into Liberty. There would be a roundabout constructed at that location, and then a new road that connects over to New Circle, and this would basically connect to the northbound lanes of New Circle. On the opposite side, for the southbound lanes, we would be using Creative Drive, which actually already exists. There would probably be some improvements made to creative. But then when we get to the other side, there was a lot of talk about putting a roundabout at that location. This is a severely right-of-way constrained location. Those two water tanks here, that's Kentucky American Water. That's basically not something that we're really able to touch there. That's an important distribution facility for them. And then what looks like a parking lot on the opposite side, this is actually a new maintenance facility that the Lexus dealership constructed. Very expensive taking in order to make a roundabout work here. We went ahead and did a quick review, had some discussion with Doug Burden on this about whether that intersection would still operate sass factorally as a signal and whether we have any significant concerns about safety there. It operates satisfactorily, probably not the ideal design that we would like to see, but what we would very much like to see is the shared use path as the extension of the Bryden Rail Trail that runs along Liberty Road. This provides a much better way for that trail to cross New Circle Road, and that's really what we're trying to see here and get that moving forward so that when Doug is ready to move forward with the Liberty Road project that's going all the way from here to Winchester Road, we have a continuous trail that connects up to downtown all the way to the existing part of the Bryden Rail Trail. I'm sorry. I just got a question. So what is this project and what's the intent of this project? It's just to keep traffic moving from Manowar to Liberty Road to get to Winchester Road? So there are two goals. So one is for New Circle Road. This is a congested part of New Circle Road and providing some additional capacity for this section of New Circle Road. Hopefully at some point we can get to the other phase which heads down to Winchester Road. and then also to address some of the safety concerns we have there with the existing intersection with Liberty Road. So by grade separating this, we're greatly reducing the number of conflict points at that particular location. And what you're not seeing here is that there are also improvements at Trade Center Road that's going to reduce the number of conflict points at that location. And then the other part of this is to have something that operates better for Liberty Road, which is a heavily traveled road. You may also recall that to the south and east, there's another project that KYTC is working on to widen Liberty Road for that section that's still two lanes. This is a heavily traveled corridor, and we want to try to make sure that we have a good facility to accommodate that traffic. Liberty Road is kind of a relic of when this was a much more rural area. The only thing I'll ask, and I'm sorry, I'll be talking about it. No, no, no. Why do the grade change here and not consider doing a grade change at Russell Cade? In my mind, it seems like the traffic flow on Russell Cave is greater than Liberty Road. Is that not the case? No, I think Liberty Road has a higher traffic volume than Russell Cave. Okay. And I can get back to you on exactly what those numbers are a little bit later. Judge? Would, if you were going on Liberty Road, you know, from this way to that way, I got it Is there any kind of light there or do you just get to go through like poof you get to go through Well it's a bridge So it doesn't have a stop light or anything like that Right you're going up and over but you're going to have a roundabout on the east side here where you have this new road being constructed to connect you to the northbound lanes and then where creative currently comes in, you will have a signal there to handle that traffic. Okay. Thanks. All right. Any more questions for Mr. Avilia? So let me just mention that our recommendation is approval, and by the way, the TTCC concurred with both the staff recommendations on both of these projects here, and our findings are that this addresses satisfactorily the concerns that we have regarding complete streets, specifically providing the shared use paths on both facilities, New Circle and Liberty, and also addresses some significant safety concerns we have at the Liberty Road interchange and also at the Trade Center interchange as well. So we did conduct a public comment period to solicit comments on this proposed amendment. That went from June 4th to June 18th. We did not receive any official comments as part of that. But we have on the agenda a public hearing for anyone that wishes to submit comments directly. Okay. At this time, we'll enter into a public hearing. Any members of the audience wishing to address the Transportation Policy Committee? Seeing none. Any questions for Mr. Avilia or staff? Okay. We'll open it for consideration and action. For a motion and a second. All in favor, signify by your right hand. All opposed? Motion carries. Thank you, Mr. Villiot. Okay, moving on. We have Resolution 2026-6, Adoption of MPO Title VI Plan for Fiscal Year 2026 Reporting Period. Mr. Villiot. All right. So Title VI of the Civil Rights Act basically says that for federal programs, You cannot have any discrimination against race, sex, national origin, and there are a couple of other categories. But basically the Title VI plan is to line out what efforts the MPO has undertaken and continues to undertake in order to ensure that all persons have equal opportunity to participate in the transportation planning process. and that the mix of projects being included in our plans and tips provide a similar level of service to all areas of our jurisdiction. The Title VI plan is required in the state of Kentucky to be updated every year, and so part of that is to look at the latest socioeconomic data that the census puts out to see if there are any significant changes that have occurred in the last year, but also to document the efforts that we've undertaken in the past year related to public involvement, also to identify if there are any points of concern that have come up during that time period as well, and if so, how are we addressing those. Thankfully, we have not had any concerns come up so far. Now, I'm sure that many of you are aware that we are in a different environment regarding some parts of this particular topic. So there are a number of executive orders that we were also including in this document that dealt with things like environmental justice or disparate impact analysis or limited English proficiency. In the last 18 months, there have been executive orders that have revoked those provisions. And the environmental justice and disparate impact analysis was also based on Supreme Court ruling from last year as well. So as a result, environmental justice and disparate impact, we are required to remove references to that from this document and really from all of our documents. Now, we still do some analysis that is kind of on the fringes of some of this. but as far as what we were specifically doing related to these particular efforts we are required to remove that limited English proficiency interestingly is a little bit different yes the earlier executive order was revoked the Trump administration did specify that English is the official language of the United States But then the executive order went on to say that the efforts that we have previously been engaged in can continue. So we're trying to navigate through what that means here, and I'll kind of explain what we've come up with so far. So for limited English proficiency, there's a process that was prescribed to us that is prescribed to us called the four-factor analysis. And really, the two parts of this that really apply to us is an analysis of census data to identify what languages are commonly spoken here and have a large proportion of folks who do not speak English very well. The threshold here that's really relevant for us is do you have 1,000 persons that meet that criteria for a specific language? And for us, that's Spanish and Mandarin Chinese. We are getting close for Arabic, but at least with the latest census data, we're not quite there yet. The other part of this is, do we have any contact, as staff, do we have any contact with persons who speak a particular language and are desiring to participate in our process, have questions about projects or anything where they need additional information. information, that also kind of checks the box as a language that we would need to start tracking. At least as of right now, there are no other languages that meet that criteria for us. That's always subject to change, and that's one of the reasons why we do this update on an annual basis, that if that has changed, then we need to start providing core documents in that new language. So, at least as far as the federal requirements are concerned, there are kind of three documents that we have to ensure are translated into these languages that are identified. The Title VI Notice of Protections Against Discrimination, the Title VI Complaint Form, the Title Complaint Procedure, those three documents. And we do provide that for Spanish and Mandarin Chinese currently. And then we need to make sure that we do have adequate translation services available in those languages. Now, we do go above and beyond that for our core products. So if you go to our website, similar to LFECG, there's a button that you can press that will translate everything on our webpage to, I think it's something like 100 different languages. In addition, being a part of LFECG, there's also a service that if folks call in, we can get assistance for, I forget exactly how many languages, but it's several dozen languages as well. So as far as folks being able to participate in the process, we're actually going above and beyond what is required under this process. But as far as what the federal process requires, we just have the two languages at this time. Now, what hasn't changed is that we still do an analysis based on the latest census information from the American Community Survey for places that have a high percentage of the population below the poverty level. folks who are age 65 or older folks who have some sort of cognitive or physical disability households that do not have access to an audible meal that's something we also track and we do go ahead and do an analysis of persons who speak english less than very well regardless of language. And then what we do is we overlay our transportation projects from our Metropolitan Transportation Plan, and then we overlay the transportation services LexTran provides to see if we're providing an adequate level of service and providing inadequate assistance in terms of transportation projects for areas that have a high percentage of these various groups. And there really hasn't been a significant change from 2023, which, as you can imagine, a year-to-year comparison, it doesn't change a whole lot. But once you get kind of three, four, five years out, that's when you start seeing some changes. And so that seems to coincide pretty nicely with the development of our Metropolitan Transportation Plan. So we're about, let's see, 2029 we have to do that. So we're probably about two and a half years or so away from having a discussion of the next transportation plan. and so that's when you may see some changes to the mix of projects that we'll be recommending to you based on some of this analysis. Since this is something that we do annually, there's continuing work. A big part of this, of our effort right now, is making sure our website complies with the requirements of the Americans with Disabilities Act. And this is very specifically aimed at folks who are visually impaired or maybe colorblind. And, in fact, the federal government has a requirement next April that we have to meet a certain threshold of compliance. And so we're working towards that. We've already implemented quite a bit, but there's still some more work that we've got to do over the next year. And we are moving forward on that. It's also time to do another review of our public participation plan We do that every five years in advance of when we do work on the Metropolitan Transportation Plan And so we're going to be taking a look at that document And assessing what's been working in terms of soliciting public input into our process What's not working so well, things that we might need to change So that's something to be on your radar screen over the next year And then, of course, any updates to federal requirements we're trying to keep track of and trying to feel our way through. The guidance and interpretation is in an evolving phase. And so the next time we revisit this document next year, there may be some additional changes we have to consider. and then of course we do have reauthorization coming up and we'll talk about that in a little more detail in the next discussion item so we did conduct a public comment period for this effort as well that started June 5th went through this past Monday again we did not receive any official comments as part of that process but we are scheduled for public hearing for anyone that wishes to make comments today. Thank you, Mr. Villia. At this time, we'll open the meeting for public hearing. Any members of the audience wishing to address the Transportation Policy Committee? Seeing none, we'll close the public hearing and open for consideration and action for adoption NPO Title VI. Question? Can we go against what the federal government has asked? The danger there is we're using federal dollars. So we kind of have to follow their rules to use their dollars. I move we approve of this current Title VI plan. Motion. Do we have a second? Second. Second. All in favor, signify by using your right hand. All opposed? Motion carries. Thank you, Mr. Avilia. Next up we have for our information discussion items, review and discussion regarding the latest information on federal transportation reauthorization. All right. So we sent you in your packets a huge amount of information. We're not going to cover all of that today. We're just going to highlight a few important points here, but we wanted to make sure you had everything, and we'll do our best to address any questions that you might have. Well, this information comes to us from our national association, the Association of MPOs, who are actively on the Hill and engaged with members of Congress on a daily basis, so we very much appreciate their efforts here. Where we are right now, we have a bill, the Build America 250 Act, that has been voted out of the House Transportation Infrastructure Committee by a vote of 62 to 2. And that's important because that's a level of bipartisanship that we don't see very often right now. However, that is just a committee recommendation, so it has to go to the full House now for a vote. There's some thought that that could happen over the next month or two, but it hasn't been scheduled yet. On the Senate side, there's been less public activity. We know that there's work occurring in the various committees of the Senate. The challenge there is they actually have three separate committees that have to weigh in on transportation authorization. So the level of complication there is a bit more. so we'll go over this in a little bit more detail towards the end but because of there's still quite a bit of work left to be done we're fully expecting a short-term extension to be voted on in September prior to the expiration of the current authorization which is the Infrastructure Investment Jobs Act and that expires on September 30th We do want to kind of go through a little bit of details on the Build America 250 Act. Because it passed the House T&I Committee with such a huge margin, the feeling is that whatever actually comes out of Congress is going to be very similar to what the House T&I Committee approved. There may be some changes on the margin, and of course the Senate wants to put their own stamp on things, but this is probably not going to be massively different from what's in here. Big thing is that we're looking at a paradigm shift from the IIJA. You may recall that the IIJA had a whole bunch of discretionary programs, over 100 in fact, that were competitive and many of which only about 10% of the applicants were successful And so Congress kind of recognized that there was a lot of wasted effort associated with that. And so the move is back to the core funding programs. And you still have some discretionary programs like BUILD, previously known as RAISE, previously known as TIGER. those you know programs like that may continue but a lot of these other new discretionary programs are being discontinued and folded into the core funding programs for the mpo this is a win it represents a pretty significant increase in the federal planning dollars that we use to operate it also decreases the non-federal match requirement for those dollars down to 10 percent that's that's a big deal for LFECG because LFECG provides over $100,000 each year to match the federal dollars that we operate with. And so that's a big benefit here. A lot more resources for local efforts. In fact, a big 22 percent, about 22 percent of the total. And right now we're probably somewhere in the low to mid-teens as far as the total that's available for things that are not covered by the state government. And so that most notably is our SLX dollars, which seems to be the catch-all for things that are important to us that are not on the state highway system. transportation alternatives, which is what we fund a lot of our bike-ped improvements with. There are a couple of new categories that would be added to this bill that would also be sub-allocated to the MPO, and so that's important as well. A couple of things to look to be monitoring. The carbon reduction fund that was new out of IIJA, that's being eliminated as part of this effort. And then there's a consolidate funding program that we're not quite sure what that exactly looks like, but that's focused at the state level. And so we're just trying to get some more information on what that is and how that might impact things. so the first part big increases for things like slx tap but there's a new bridge program or the bridge program's not new but what is new is there would be a sub allocation of the bridge program to directly to the mpo for addressing structurally deficient bridges thankfully we don't have a huge number of those, but we do have some. And so this would be beneficial to be able to make sure that all of our bridges are safe and remain open to traffic. Pre-sizable, the STBG dollars, that just, when you see that, think SLX. It's a big increase there. CMAQ is a pot of money that we are eligible for that's related to air quality. And thankfully our air quality is good right now, but it wasn't always. And under the federal program, if you've ever had a problem, you're always eligible for that pile of money. The challenge we have right now is that it's discretionary for KYTC, and KYTC has not had a call for projects in four years. so that's something that we're trying to put a little bit of pressure on them maybe not so much for us but i know louisville and cincinnati who are air quality non-attainment that's a big deal for them um on the transit side the demise of public transportation is greatly exaggerated um and i know fred is thankful to hear that yeah um so while we're not seeing an increase maybe even a slight decrease in the dollars, but they're not going away entirely. So that's some good news. There are some structural changes to some of the programs. Probably the most notable one is under the bus-bus facility program, where the low and no emission program is eliminated under this proposal, but the dollars are folded into the larger Section 5339 funding. and I believe eligibility still remains to acquire those vehicles, but it's not a set-aside program. For the MPO, we're looking at a pretty sizable increase, about 23% increase for our planning dollars over the life of this bill. The other big thing is we have some expanded eligibilities for the use of our dollars, so that's helpful for perhaps some work that right now we're just not allowed to do. But also, MPOs could become direct recipients of the federal dollars. That's something we'd have to have a discussion about whether that would be a good thing or not. Right now, I'm kind of thinking it's not something we're interested in. But we would get direct access to the federal management information system, which right now we do not have access. and makes it very difficult for us to track the use of our sub-allocated dollars. So that's something we're looking forward to. So real quick. Sorry, I've got a quick question. So what's the path for the federal dollars to come down now? If the NPO could be the direct recipient, how do the dollars come down now through the state? Everything comes through KYTC. So the challenge is that means we also not only do we have to follow the federal requirements, we have to follow all the state requirements. And if we are a direct recipient, then we don't have the state requirements that we have to also abide by. If it comes through the state, how many other MPOs are there? Are there two other ones? No, there are eight total for Kentucky, but nine. Nine, that's right. I always forget about Paducah. They're brand new. But Lexington, Bowling Green, and Elizabethtown are the only ones that are entirely inside of Kentucky. So I guess my question is, if it goes to the state, are those dollars then become competitive with the other MPOs? No. We have a direct allocation, and the state is just a simple pass-through. The state is a pass-through, but they have been given oversight responsibility to say, okay, you have to make sure that we're doing what we're supposed to be doing, not only under federal law, but because now they've taken on all the characteristics of state dollars, we have to abide by all of the state requirements as well. Okay. Well, I guess the reason I brought it up is if there's a way not to be competitive with other NPOs, NPOs, wouldn't we want to take that money directly and use it here? And then if fiscal administration is part of what the eligibility is to use that money, then we could use that to hire somebody to make sure that we're compliant. But, I mean, that might be another conversation. Yes, and I think the grants division will say, well, we already have those folks. but as far as how those dollars are then distributed once they come to Kentucky there is a formula that's agreed to by the the nine MPOs and then I think KYTC has some way in on on the final formula yeah we we do the actual calculations based on the formula it's agreed to by the MPOs as a group. And I'm not really sure how that would change if the MPO became a direct recipient, because there would still need to be some way for that allocation to be determined. So you might end up still going through that process to determine the funding levels, but then once that was determined, then the funds would flow directly from the Federal Highway Administration to the MPO without going through us. Right, yeah, and that's the big unknown is how would those funds be distributed initially? You might take on more responsibility and not get a bigger slice of the pie. Right. I have a question. Yes, yeah. Along that line of thinking, is that the only drawback from being a direct recipient? is? Well, there are a number of tasks that KYTC is currently performing related to ensuring that we're using the dollars correctly that then we would have to take on ourselves. Okay. And one other thing to think about is that the state currently provides a 10% match for those PL funds and And I think if the MPO became a subrecipient. The federal highway portion of the funds, not the full toll. Right. But I think if the MPO was not a subrecipient, I'm not sure how we would be able to provide those state funds because I think the state requirements would naturally have to be attached to those. I think our assumption is that we probably would not receive those. Is that correct? No, not at all. Just a consideration. Well, that's one of the reasons why we've been advocating to just eliminate the match requirement altogether for our planning dollars. This proposal, it's down to 10%. We haven't given up on the concept of just eliminating it altogether. A couple of other things to touch base on here. Safe streets and roads for all, right now it's a competitive discretionary program. It would become a formula program under this proposal, and the MPOs would have a set-aside, a sub-allocated set-aside for this program. We mentioned about CRP being eliminated, carbon reduction fund. We mentioned about CMAQ. And just real quick, there are some winners and losers in this. Keep in mind the entire bill is about a 4% increase over IIJA. Active transportation, kind of a wash. Not a lot of huge wins, but not huge losses either. Transit, I've mentioned, yeah, once again, not huge wins, but it's still pretty much intact. One big thing that might be of interest to us is the capital investment grants program, the CIG program. Our conversations regarding BRT basically revolve around that pot of money. The limit right now is $100 million for a project. That increases to $1 billion. So that pretty much eliminates any possibility of bringing up against a cap for any effort in our area. The big loser is rail. In fact, a lot of those programs are eliminated. Pretty much it comes down to an Amtrak and rail safety funding program. and a big thing on the permitting and project readiness part of this we spend a lot of time especially with our metropolitan transportation plan identifying alternatives for projects that just are not feasible however those cannot be considered in the environmental review process this changes that so we don't spend a lot of wasted time and effort investigating alternatives that we already know will not work. And as I mentioned, right now there is work going on in the Senate, but it's behind the scenes. So the IIJA does expire on September 30th. We expect a short-term extension because basically all the programs stop if we do not have an extension by that point. Under an extension, the core funding programs continue. The funding is flat. There's no adjustment for inflation. But the discretionary programs do not continue. So under IIJA, BUILD or RAISE, SS4A, say Streets and Roads for All, those are discretionary programs. They would not continue under a short-term extension. We don't know how long of an extension we're looking at. The feeling after talking with some of my colleagues is six months seems pretty likely. And so we're probably looking at some type of extension when we get into September. And then the hope is, well, the expectation is that it's going to be the next Congress that's going to be actually tasked with coming up with a long-term authorization act. So that's a quick Well as quick as I could do Overview of the Build America 250 Act Happy to address any other questions That the policy committee might have Okay any questions for Mr. Avilia Okay thank you At this time we'll accept general public comment Any audience members wishing to address the committee? Seeing none. Other business, other TPC items, questions, comments, or new business? Seeing none. Next meeting day. Next meeting is Wednesday, August 26th, 1.30 p.m., same location. All right. Thank you, Mr. Avilia. We'll see everybody next meeting, August 26th, right here in this room, Phoenix Building. Open the table for a motion for adjournment. So moved. Second. So moved. Second. All in favor, signify the voters, raise your right hand. All opposed? Much curious. Have a good evening. Thank you. I do. If you choose to You can live your life alone Some people choose the city Some of them Choose a good old family home I like living easy with our family ties Easy of a whip of will of freedom Sadly, right between the eyes Cause I live and free It's a feeling of deathly of freedom From the day that I was born I'm not waiting to fly Well, I got the feeling To make me high to a man Give me peace on my mind Daddy never had A fellow tell me a friend Shout on me I love you Shine a light Glory I want the world left behind Shine the light, shine the light Shine the light, won't you shine the light Feel the doubt, tell me you're free I love my body Yes I do I'm going to be a little bit Shine the light, I want you to shine the light Hey, it's Fajan Nicole, and we're back with another episode of Your Lex PD. And we are here for Season 3. I love it. Season 3. Who would have thought when we first started this, right? But we've had a great time with it, and we appreciate everybody. We appreciate the chief and all the chief staff for supporting the project. We appreciate all the people that have been on the project with us, all the different interviews that we've done, and LexTV. I know we mentioned them at the end of Season 2, but LexTV does a phenomenal job. What a team they have and what a team when they work with us. And we want to thank you, the viewers out there, everybody that's watching the show, all the comments that we get, the people that come up to us and say they watch it. We appreciate that. If you have any ideas on some of the episodes in the future that you'd like to see or things you want to learn more about, reach out to us and let us know because this is about you and your Lex PD and you learning about our agency and how we work together. And I would love that. And so this season, we're kind of going to focus on public safety partnerships. So we're going to start off this season with E911. Yeah, and when we talk about partnerships, we're very blessed in Lexington with all the different partnerships we have, both within the Lexington-Fate Urban County Government and then also just in the community itself, all the folks and all the partnerships that we have. Very, very important to make it all work together. We're going to highlight some of the things and specialized units and so forth over the next few episodes and over the next season. But, yeah, that partnership. And the one we're starting with is...