# Rural Land Management Board - August 26, 2026 > Auto-transcribed civic record · Board · August 26, 2026 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/6867 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/6867?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2026-08-26 - **Body**: Board - **Last revised**: August 29, 2026 - **Length**: 5,936 words > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** Audio from the official Granicus video was auto-transcribed by OpenAI Whisper-1. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude Sonnet. Speaker labels and verbatim wording may contain errors. See [methodology](https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/about/methodology) or [report a correction](mailto:editor@lexingtonky.news). --- ## Meeting Overview The Rural Land Management Board met at 3:00 PM under the presiding leadership of Gloria. The board addressed four agenda items during the meeting, which included approval of previous meeting minutes, informational presentations on solar development, and updates on agricultural applications. The board took six motions to a vote and approved two items: the July 22nd meeting minutes and a white paper on industrial scale solar. Two additional agenda items—a large-scale solar vote and PDR and Small Farm Applications—were presented for informational purposes. No public comments were received during the meeting. ## Attendance The following individuals were present at the Board meeting on August 26, 2026: - Nathan - Beth - Lex TV - Alina - Brian Jones - Hannah - Jonathan - Margaret - Lena - Jim Coleman - Mary Quinn - Olivia - Robert James - Steven Howard - Will Mayer - Janetta - Phil Hager - Phil Meyer - Tiffany - Council Member Boone No members were absent or late. ## Votes and Decisions The Board took the following actions during the August 26, 2026 meeting: **Approval of July 22nd Minutes** [timestamp: 0:02:37] Motion by Jim Coleman, seconded by Robert and Anna. The motion to approve the July 22nd minutes passed unanimously. **Authorization to Share White Paper on Industrial Scale Solar** [timestamp: 0:14:28] Motion by Phil, seconded by Phil. The Board unanimously authorized Beth to share the white paper on industrial scale solar. **Enter Closed Session** [timestamp: 0:34:35] Motion by Margaret, seconded by Phil. The motion to enter closed session passed unanimously. **Return to Open Session** [timestamp: 0:35:06] Motion by Phil, seconded by Hannah. The Board unanimously voted to return to open session. **Authorization of Offer for Farm 220-25** [timestamp: 0:35:38] Motion by Robert, seconded by Phil. The Board unanimously authorized an offer for Farm 220-25. **Authorization of Offer for Farm 5-2025** [timestamp: 0:36:09] Motion by Margaret, seconded by Jim Coleman. The Board unanimously authorized an offer for Farm 5-2025. All six motions passed with unanimous votes. ## Budget and Financial Actions The Board approved a contract with Charlie Farmer for 65 monitoring reviews at a cost of $6,500. ## Contested Items **Large-Scale Solar Vote** The Board voted on a large-scale solar proposal, which resulted in a narrowly divided outcome of 8 to 7. This close vote indicates significant disagreement among Board members regarding the proposal. The narrow margin reflects a split in opinion on the matter, with the proposal ultimately passing by a single vote. ## Approval of July 22nd minutes [timestamp: 02:37] The Board reviewed the minutes from the July 22nd meeting. Jim Coleman, Robert, and Anna participated in the discussion. No changes or corrections to the minutes were proposed by any board members during the review. **Outcome:** The July 22nd minutes were approved. ## Large-scale solar vote The board discussed the outcome of a recent vote on large-scale solar, which resulted in an 8-7 decision that did not align with the board's position. [timestamp: 00:03:43] Gloria and Tiffany were the key speakers on this matter. The board presented this as an informational item to update members on the voting result. In response to the unfavorable outcome, the board encouraged members to contact their council members regarding the large-scale solar issue. This action was intended to mobilize community engagement on the topic following the vote. ## White paper on industrial scale solar [timestamp: 14:28] The board discussed a proposal to send a detailed white paper on industrial scale solar to council members. The white paper was intended to support the board's position on this issue. **Key participants:** Gloria, Beth, and Phil led the discussion on this agenda item. **Outcome:** The board approved the white paper on industrial scale solar for distribution to council members. ## PDR and Small Farm Applications The board discussed deadlines for PDR (Purchase of Development Rights) and small farm applications, with a focus on outreach efforts to potential applicants. [timestamp: 0:22:48] Key speakers Beth and Brian Jones addressed the topic during this informational discussion. The board examined the timeline for these applications and identified the need for targeted outreach to ensure eligible applicants were aware of and could meet the submission deadlines. The discussion centered on strategies to reach potential applicants and support them through the application process. No specific concerns or objections were documented during this portion of the meeting. The outcome of this agenda item was informational in nature, with the board receiving updates on application deadlines and outreach considerations rather than taking formal action. --- ## Decisions - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approval of July 22nd minutes - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Authorize Beth to share the white paper on industrial scale solar - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Enter closed session - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Return to open session - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Authorize an offer for Farm 220-25 - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Authorize an offer for Farm 5-2025 --- ## Full transcript I have, it's three o'clock on the nose. Yeah, so we can start. We do have a quorum, so. Yep. Nathan is coming in. I'll go ahead and call the meeting to order at three. Beth, turn on your recorder, and I heard Lex TV say they could turn theirs on, right? Yes. Let's see if they've got us on the air. Hi. I'm putting you on there right now. Thank you. Okay. And Alina was here, but there she is. She got moved around on the screen. Just so that it's easier for you all doing the minutes. I think it's easier because you listen to the tape. I'll go around and make sure that all the names are listed. And Brian Jones, thank you so much for coming. It's been a big help having someone from NRCS here. So thank you. That's a big help. I see Hannah. I appreciate the opportunity. Thank you. And Jonathan, and Margaret, and Lena, and Jim, and, oh, well, I just said we've got, we do have law here. And Mary Quinn, and Olivia is here from Council Member Boone's office. Robert James, Steven Howard, Will Mayer. Did I, oh, and Lena, I mean- Janetta. Yes, Janetta's here. The screen keeps changing as people come on. Did I get everybody? And I'm here. And Beth. So I think that's everyone. And to my knowledge, we've had no requests for absences. I hope everybody got their July 22nd minutes. I know it was a big packet this time, but I hope everybody got their July 22nd minutes. We had a lot of minutes and a lot of things. So thank you again, Beth and Lena, for the good job you all do on the minutes. The having the minutes and being able to go back. I actually do that. Go back and look at them sometimes for updates on things we've done. And it's really convenient to have those. And they're so well done. So thank you very much. Do anybody have any changes, additions, corrections? Nobody? Then I need a motion to approve. So moved, Madam Chair. All right, thank you, Jim Coleman. And a couple of seconds, there's Robert and Anna. Our seconds. And all in favor, we have to have a show of hands just to make it legal. Okay, I think that's it. And Tiffany is here. So thank you. We're making it legal. Doing it right. We do have old business. Unfortunately, our large-scale solar, the boat to date did not go our way. Beth sent that letter to you all, the information yesterday. So you should have had how that turned out. The vote was eight to seven. And I would suggest that those of you call your own council member and let them know that you may or may not be happy about the decision that the Planning Commission had sent to them and what we had sent to them. The first reading is coming up and that's what Jim Coleman was talking about, the meeting to go to. And the second reading will be on September 10th. And I think, Tiffany, you can, if you are on the winning side, if you were on the winning vote in situations, you can bring it up again and talk about it and ask for another vote. Is that correct? I'm actually not for sure on that. I would have to look that up, I think. You have to be on the winning side. So one of those eight people could, in fact, bring it up, make a speech, could ask for another vote and could change their vote. Hmm, when is the first reading? I think it's August 27th. Tomorrow night. Yes, tomorrow night. I think it provides an opportunity for public comment tomorrow night, doesn't it? It'd be nice if you commented to your council member before that. I sent out a message to my neighbors with an email format to send to all of our council members, as well as a three-minute public comment that they could use. And do remember that you supposedly have four people on that council who are responsible for what you want. You have your own district council person and you have the at-large. Two of the at-large, James Brown and Chuck Ellinger, did vote to not have that in the rural area. And our vice mayor, who's our third at-large, did not vote, was not one of the ones. So bear that in mind, that who voted your way, however you feel about it. I just want to mention, Gloria, that our own council representative on the board also voted contrary to what this board requested and recommended. He voted for allowing industrial-scale solar in the rural area and did not mention anything about the Rural Land Management Board's position. And he's a member of the board. So I was very disappointed in that. He's unfortunately not here today, so he can't address it, but I did want people to be aware of that. So I do encourage you all to send an email or a note, letting members know. And just since we've discussed this, Phil Hager has signed on for the record, Beth, and Phil Meyer. Yes, and Olivia Grigsby has put in a note into the chat that there will be public comment at the beginning of both meetings at 6 p.m. tomorrow night and again on September 10th, since those are issues on the agenda. And so the public comment will be at the beginning of the meeting before council votes. And I see that our council member's name is on here as well as his legislative aid, Olivia. And thank you very much, Council Member Boone, for standing up for us. Anything else, Beth, to add to that? Olivia, do you want us to vote on the white paper? We could do that. Beth and I, if you recall, after our meeting when we sent the letter, James Brown, Council Member Brown, came to us and said he would like to have more detail. And so Beth and I actually worked on that. Beth spent a lot of time and did a really good job of trying to put together everything we had discussed in our meetings and I looked at it, thought it was great. Then Beth was concerned about sending to him just because you all had not voted on it. So you've not seen the white paper, but I do think that since he requested it, that we do need to send the synopsis of what we have discussed in these meetings. He said he wanted to use it, as did Council Member Boone, wanted to use it as part of their argument talking to the other council members. So it's still not too late. We could still send that. I think we should send it because if there's any chance of stopping this, we should take it. And I see, I don't know if Olivia's here, but I don't see Council Member Boone's face. I was gonna say he could ask if he thought it would still help. I am here, sir. I'm driving so my camera's not on, but I think anything that can be done, it doesn't hurt at this point. I know that obviously we've been talking about it for a while and a lot of people have kind of made up their minds, but I think if there's any chance to get something else that's kind of new information to them, I know at least one of them is a maybe. It's a strong maybe, but it's a maybe. So I don't know, but they voted consistently along the way. So no promises, but I think anything helps at this point. Okay. So you prefer that we would go ahead and send it to you to give it to you and James? Yeah, I think, I mean, any ammo we can have at this point is worth a shot. And I don't know how it's gonna be received, but it's worth, it's kind of our shot to try. Well, okay. Any other comments? Phil, I saw your hand was up. And this letter, is this something that Council Member Boone would read to the council? Or is it something that I'd be glad to stand up in front of the public comment and read it to them? It was not so much a letter as it was, he had asked us to do a little more detail than we'd sent in our one page letter to him before about our stance and what we discussed. And Beth did a great, great job of that. We can still send that to you so everyone can see it. So I guess my question is, how do we convey this new information to the council? How do they hear what we're saying in this letter? I think that Council Member Brown and Boone had specifically asked, they wanted to use it as part of their selling the other council members about the importance of doing it and why we had said that, why we felt the way we did about it. I guess I'm asking, are they allowed to present this information since they were on the losing side of the vote? And does it need to come from somebody in the public? Lightning has been detected near your location. And one thing we can also do, the letter you all voted to send earlier, I sent it directly to them on work email so they get it. So that may be effective tomorrow. I could even send it as soon as after this meeting or first thing in the morning. And then someone could read it tomorrow night if you all would like, or just enter it into the record. Well, I'm just, it's like, we may be limited with how this can be presented tomorrow. I'm just trying to find out, if Councilman Boone is allowed to speak on this matter or does he has to sit there and be quiet because he was on the losing side? No, he'd be able to speak. It's just a question whether somebody can call it up for a vote, another vote. Yeah, he can't call up. Yeah, yeah, I got you. Somebody in the majority has to call it back up if they want to seek a re-vote essentially. But I think since they take public comment, we could submit it as public comment or we could submit it to all of the council members prior to the meeting, or there's any number of ways of doing it, I would think. Okay, I guess we need to see what it says first. Is it appropriate when you're making your public comment to ask one of the council members to open the vote back up or not? Sure, you can ask. That doesn't mean they'll do it, but you can ask them anything. Yeah, you can ask them. Sorry, I was trying to raise my hand and I couldn't figure out how to do it electronically. I think that if you all are willing to send it to council members ahead of time, I would definitely do that as soon as you can. We're still getting a lot of emails even though that first vote has happened. So I would definitely recommend doing that just as you did your first letter. I think that would be really beneficial. I think it's better from you all first rather than council member Boone and Brown. Basically, it just elaborates on the letter. It discusses each of those topics in a little more detail. I think we should send it to all of them then. Yeah, I agree. Because if we present it at the meeting, they're not gonna read it before they take it, before they- In order to do that, I'd like to entertain a motion. Okay, I'll make a motion to authorize Beth to share the white paper on industrial scale solar in the rural area to send it to the full council prior to tomorrow night's meeting. So just- Is there a second? Send it ASAP, basically today after the meeting so that there is a chance for them to read it. I'll second that. And Phil seconded. Are there any other questions or comments? I wanna make sure everybody has time to get there. I would say five cents worth in, but that's worth nothing anymore. Can you show us on screen what it looks like, what this white paper says? She might be able to. Let me see if I can. You got that, Beth? Okay. And Beth and I both looked at what Fayette Alliance had sent. We also looked at what the environmental commission had sent, both of which were given in the meeting we attended. You were there, Robert. Phil was there. Margaret was there. I was there. We looked at all of those written comments that they did. And it's actually, some of those were 10 pages, 20 pages. And this is a total of four or five. The fact that the environmental commission was recommending this, there was a lot made of that. And there was very little said about the Rural Land Management Board's position or the fact that we would have a role to play in monitoring these facilities if they're in fact authorized and built. And part of our concern has been that they expect our staff to monitor these in the rural area. That is not our area of expertise. And it is not our area that we have by ordinance been expected to take care of in the rural area. So adding that to our small staff's requirements is certainly unacceptable. And we've tried to make that clear all along that an annual monitoring that they have put in there is not feasible for us. Okay, is this showing for you all? Yes, it is. Well, I- Okay, I'll let you all read for a minute and I'll slowly scroll rather than trying to read it to you. Can you all see it okay? Yeah. Okay, all right. And we'll go ahead and start and I'll. Okay. You might scroll up just a little bit. Okay. Yeah, okay. Cause it only shows on mine about half a page at a time. Okay. Okay. Too fast. Oh, too fast. Okay. It's a speed reading course. Okay. I'm good. Okay. Okay. I'm good. Back it up just a little bit. Cause it was, we tried to stress because one of the comments was that, what does the, how much that's gonna contribute to Fayette County? And we, on the other hand, tried to say that the economic contributions from the agricultural sector was, you know, outstanding. Okay. Beth, can you also send this to us so we have a copy of it? Yes. Okay. And Gloria, I'm noticing we don't have something specific about the part that involves rural land staff, but we can certainly quickly add a paragraph before we send it. Well, we had already told them that on occasions, but I think it's important after they went ahead to vote that way, I do think it's important to put that in because it's not part of our budget. It's not part of what our staff does. I mean, I would make it clear. We did not request to be given this role, nor do we seek it. Okay. You know, and that it places a burden on the program when we don't have the staff or the resources. Okay. Ellen, it's not our charge. It's no, it's not. It's not to monitor solar. Installations. No, it is to monitor what's going on in the farms. Did everybody have a chance to see this? I'm good. Okay. We talked about it. You have a motion and a second. So we should vote. Are there any other comments though, before we vote having seen this? Any additions other than what Margaret and Beth just talked about adding? We don't have the staff to accommodate what's in there. Okay. We have the motion and a second. All in favor of signify, show of hands, please. Unanimous. Okay. I think so. Yes. I do think that at least we've tried to be straightforward and we've tried to do our homework and we had them at several meetings. I sat down with some of those council members on more than one occasion. Still didn't seem to help. So I do think everything we can do is good. Next thing on the agenda. Are the small farms and the PDR farm applications. Yes. So as I sent out an email, so NRCS has moved their application date back from December 31st to September 25th. So we are hustling on PDR applications and Brian can address that if needed, but they knew there was some short notice for us and the other Kentucky applicants. So there's a possibility they may have a second application deadline in the end of March, if needed, if we do not get some good applicants this time. But we've already had several inquiries. 1,400 postcards went out. The majority of that being probably approximately 1,000 were small farms. That deadline is not until November 2nd. But we are getting a lot of inquiries from those, probably at least 10 a day. But so we think that's gonna go well. We are hopeful. We made this small farm deadline a lot later in hopes that gives them time to get those mortgage subordinations beforehand and be able to work on that. And we've put materials online for them and stuff. And Jim Coleman has taken the initiative to host. He has set up a webinar for the Royster Road and Briar Hill Neighborhood Associations on September 14th. At 6 p.m., it's gonna be a Zoom where they can log on and learn about PDR. And so I'm sure if any of you know anyone who would want to join, that even if they're not a member of that, Jim would be happy to accommodate them and let them join our group. But thank you to Jim for organizing that. And he had it scheduled for September 10th. And then with this council vote on solar, he sent out a message to his neighborhood association it was important for them to be at a council meeting instead on September 10th. And so we've moved it to September 14th. But thank you very much, Jim, for organizing that. So if you all get inquiries from anyone in your neighborhood or colleagues or anyone who needs assistance or needs materials or has questions, just let me know. We have made the websites, both the PDR and Small Farm. We've put a lot of information out there and hopefully made them very user friendly. So they're able to access what they need and download the application and things. But yes, so we will know by the September 22nd meeting how many PDR applicants we should have received and can let you all know that. The questions that I've been answering and while we have NRCS here with us, the questions have been about the FSA and the water quality plans. And I've said, well, the water quality plan has been a state law for a good while. And some of these people have been farming for a long time and didn't know what an FSA, what that even meant. So it shows that a lot of people who are farming and have been for a long time don't have water quality plans and don't know how to do that or where to do that. So I take it, Brian, they can call you and Allison Tucker and that's good enough? Yes, that'd be fine, yes. And I think that's kind of a problem, Gloria, that people are not aware of that and I don't know if they've done a good outreach campaign to make landowners with 10 acres or more that have an agricultural operation realize that that's actually the law. So that's something that we probably need to some kind of a better outreach approach to that to make people aware. That's not good to hear that people are not aware of that. So, yeah, but yes, absolutely could call me and I could guide them through the process. And I take it, Allison, because the extension agent is what you have, what is written down for people to contact, so. Yes, they are actually, the extension service was really good at helping our first round of small farm applicants through that process. And they specifically on their website provide a staff member's name and resources on their page. So we've provided all of that on the application and our info sheet too. And I bring that up because two of the farms that I've been working with this past week, helping with their applications have been farming and neither one of them knew about either one of those. Though you'll be getting two applications, Beth. They wanted to know if there was a way, if they didn't get it by the deadline, could they still get them in? And I said, well, I knew there'd been some short staffing issues and that maybe they could, as long as it's written on there, it's coming this week or coming soon or. Yes, yes. We want to get as many as possible folks, yes. And Hannah has her hand raised. Oh, I don't, okay. I didn't. Intentional or not. Hannah. No, okay. I can undo it. Let me get straight in my mind. I was distracted, but for the regular PDR program, the deadline got changed. September 1st. Okay. And so now we're hoping to have a deadline of maybe at the end of March to work with all these applications that we may get in here in the next month or so? No. Well, no. So NRCS, their first deadline is September 25th. And so that's why ours is PDR is September 1st. But NRCS may have a second deadline March 31st or around that time. They may have a second deadline, okay. So we're hopeful for that because I suspect we're not going to get too many in before September 1st, are we? I don't know, maybe a handful. And so if not, we'll re-advertise and try for that. Brian, do you all feel confident there might be a second date or do you all know yet? Yes, we will have the latitude to do that. And the reason is the national office is requiring us to line all of our programs with a set batch date. So like our EQIP program, Environmental Quality Incentive Program, Conservation Stewardship Program, all of our Farm Bill programs, we had to line them all for the same date. And also having that earlier signup date, the quicker for all of our programs we can get to our obligations, like actually obligate the financial obligations, the better chance we'll have to receive additional funding. So the quicker we can get easements or whether it be a Farm Bill contract, actual something like a BMPs on a farm, the quicker we can get those obligated, the better chance we'll have to receive additional funding. But as far as having additional signup, I see no issue with if we need to have another signup, we at the state have the latitude to do that. So that shouldn't be a problem. Good. We have people who are interested. Great. Any other comments? And I do remember, Phil, an answer to that. They still have till 1st of November to do our small farms from the 10 to 19. Yeah, that'll be enough to keep Beth busy. Okay, and next new business. So we'll move right on to PDR and small farm easement. We closed three more easements this month. So two false small farm easements and one PDR easement on August 12th. And the two small farms were around 10 acres and the PDR farm was 30. So it was 50 new acres. So we are now at 33,579 acres and 317 farms. So a lot of farms and growing all the time that, so that is 12 easements this year. And we have one more small farm that may be closing before our September meeting. And that may be it for closing right away, but we actually have two farms newly funded by NRCS just this summer that have already signed contracts. That's two that you all approved last month and we'll discuss more today. So we're already proceeding on signing the contracts for the funding we were just awarded this summer. And those will start moving through the closing process. So it's all going very well. And we can give them a full report next meeting. Yes. I'll wait until the other one closes in September and then we can have a report. And we do need to, let's see, is that your hand, Jim? No. Closed session. We need- Yes. And Gloria, before we go in, I don't know if Olivia or Council Member Boone had anything to ask. Okay. I don't believe for that, or anything to add. I mean, not ask. Do you have anything? I don't think much of anything. I will say we did add the PDR and the small farm information and deadlines to our newsletter that went out earlier this week. And we'll continue to do that until the deadlines occur. I think that is it. Our office has also been helping organize, as we do every year, Ag Day for all of the Council Members, which is mainly coordinated by Erica Rogers in the Mayor's Office. I'm not sure if she's reached out to you all to invite you all to that day yet, but if not, I'd be glad to send you some information. And I think that's it, unless Council Member Boone has anything to add. I wanna add that your newsletter is wonderful. I get newsletters from several of the Council Members and you get the gold star. And I've encouraged this group to sign on and take your newsletter, because it is a great update, not just for the 12th District, but for a lot that's going on in the County as a whole. So thank you for doing all that. I know it takes a lot of time and effort to put it together, but it's a really good one. And I wanna encourage you Board Members to, it's free and it's good, and it'll keep you updated on a lot of things. So if you don't already get that, please do. So thank you for putting that in, Olivia. Any other comments? Okay, it is 335 for the time Beth, and I will call for a motion to enter closed session, pursuant to KRS 61-80810-1B, to discuss a potential acquisition of real property interest, the public discussion of which is likely to affect the value. So moved. Second. All right, motion's made by Margaret, second by Phil. All favor, show of hands, please. Great. It is now 352, and I will make a motion for the Board. We have had our closed session and we are now in open session again. And I'll need a motion to return, which we've, did he get that or do we need to do it again? We might do it again for the, since we're online. I'll move that we return to open session. And Hannah, second still? Okay, all in favor, show of hands again. Okay, good. We need a motion to authorize an offer for Farm 220-25 as discussed in closed session. So moved. All right, you're off, Phil. You're, yeah, Robert's made the motion. I'll second. And Robert made the motion and Phil's saying that, Phil's trying to make the motion, but he was mute. And is there any other discussion? All right, motion's been made and seconded. All in favor, show of hands, please. Okay. Unanimous, I think, Beth. Okay. And now I need a motion to authorize an offer for Farm 5-2025 per our discussion in closed session. So moved. All right, that motion's made by Margaret. Is there a second? Second. All right, Jim Coleman. Motion's been made and seconded. All in favor, show of hands, please. All right, that's it, Beth. Okay, and Mary Quinn has her hand raised. Oh, no, okay. I think she was voting. Okay. Hi, anyway. All right, moving right along. Treasurer's report. Phil. We have one invoice this month for Charlie Farmer doing 65 monitoring reviews as the bills for 6,500. It's been paid by Beth. So this is part of his annual process. And they're in our email for our minutes and whatever. There's a list of the farms he actually inspected, if you all want to see that, or haven't seen it, it's there for your review. And I do always look at those. Yeah, I like to see which ones I, how many I remember where they actually are before I see the address. Any questions about that or this invoice? Because that's all I got. One of our new farm applicants is in your old neighborhood. You'll be happy about that. Good, okay. Robert. Any other comments? All right. I guess up next is chair's report. I do want to tell you all last time we talked about restaurant week. And I did go to five of them. And I specifically picked out restaurants that I knew were supporters of our farmers. People who get things from our folks who are also selling things to the farmer's market. And the meals were wonderful. So I will encourage you all to please go to the restaurants in town, a lot of them, and Mary Quinn can probably tell you exactly. A lot of them have little notes on their menus that say farm such and such supplied by so-and-so and such and such supplied this. So it is, please do comment and thank them when you're there for having done that and for having supported our farm folks. Because some of our small farms are the ones doing that, are raising the tomatoes and the peppers and the things sending in. And that's one of the reasons we want to encourage the small farms is because those folks are doing a lot when it comes to small orchards and vegetables and things to our folks here and at the farmer's market. So support our farmer's markets. If you don't, there are lists where they are and the dates all around town. And they've grown and we have a lot more sites and it's wonderful for the produce. So I want to encourage you all to do that. I want to thank Lena in signing the papers that I have to do for John Watts and for our closings and our offers. She has been great to meet me on the days that we need to do that and notarize those. And thank you very much, because I know it's out of your ordinary day that you have planned. So thanks. And I do want to thank Beth again for working on that white paper. I think that is something that was really important that we need to at least let them know how we feel. I have met with some of our small farm applicants and I'm happy to say Jim Coleman and I have been talking about this and working he's been also, I did some PVA work for him for some of the bigger farms in his area for the regular PDR farms. And he's been working on that too. I want to encourage you all to please look at the friends and neighbors and folks you know who might qualify and encourage them. I know Steve, is Steve still here? Steven Howard had to leave. He texted me. He waited till after vote. He did solicit folks all through his neighborhood and we did have people in his neighborhood who did sign on. So the subordination letters are sort of the trouble. And I've talked to Brian a little about before the meeting started. Some of those folks will probably be calling you. Some of our small farms from the past have had problems. And one of the people has been trying forever. Her mortgage was through farm credit but apparently farm credit sold it to someone else. And so she has a hard time. And I hope it's okay that I've given those people your name to maybe you can help do that. I've also told them that Jonathan Disney is now our banker on board and knows also about appraisals and that maybe he can. So I hope Jonathan, it's okay that I give you, give them your name as well to try to help see if they can resolve that. The appraisals are available and I do try to read them even when they come in 24 hours ahead. And Beth will have those. They're supposed to give us three copies. One of which is what notebook, a spiral notebook. So we keep those in our records forever. But if you all, any of you ever want to see how they're appraised, see all the things that are commented on, the maps, the soil maps, everything that's in there, please, I would encourage you to educate yourselves about those if you don't know much about the appraisals. But Beth does have those if you're interested. And I do want you all to please solicit friends and neighbors for our PDR and for our small farms. If we're going to get to 50,000 acres, it's going to take all of us. Cheerleading. So get on your tall soapbox and your cheerleading pom-poms and go for it, please. Okay, Beth. Okay, I think that's about it. I was going to tell you all about the Council Ag Day that Olivia mentioned. That is on September 1st, so it's next Tuesday. And they are going to, oh my word, I can't think of the, Food Chain, that's where it's starting off. Down there by Smithtown Seafood on West 6th. And they're going to start at Food Chain and then go to Kristen and Todd Clark's farm out on the western part of the county. And then they are going to the Kentucky Horse Park. And so there's no PDR farms this year, but I plan to go and it's good for the Council members to see all of these things, and especially things like Food Chain that they might not correlate with our working farms and realize that non-profits like that that are existing in town, that how that is tied to the ag area. So if any of you are interested, let me know, I'm happy to send that information. If you think you might want to go along that day, we'd be happy to have you. And I did sign up, but the only reason you need to know is that they are providing a lunch and they need a number ahead because of the lunch. So any of you who want to go are welcome. Just let them know ahead, let them know ahead so we can pass it on. Yes.