# Urban County Council - September 17, 2026 > Auto-transcribed civic record · Council · September 17, 2026 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/6887 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/6887?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2026-09-17 - **Body**: Council - **Last revised**: September 18, 2026 - **Length**: 7,871 words - **Speakers**: Marcia Andrews, Mayor > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** Audio from the official Granicus video was auto-transcribed by OpenAI Whisper-1, with speaker labels folded in from Granicus closed-captioning. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude Sonnet. Speaker labels and verbatim wording may contain errors. 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Thank you very much those all pass. Councilmembers as we start the communications from the mayor I want to welcome the Boy Scout Troop 186 I believe it is who are here and many of them are working on badges and we are always happy to have our Scout Troops visit and observe what's going on and earn your badges so welcome. Yeah we do have communications from the mayor procurements. Thank you. Vice Mayor Wu second by Councilmember Savigny. Are there any questions? All those in favor say aye. Is anyone opposed? All right that passes. Thank you. We have several communications from the mayor for your information only and we do not have fire or police disciplines tonight and that brings us to council announcements. Councilmember Reynolds. Thank you Mayor. I want to say a few words about Adrian Bryant as well. I have known him not only professionally but personally and as a constituent and I was really impressed with his work at Civiclex taking government information and making it available in a way that the general public could digest but then I was very impressed when he started a neighborhood association in a neighborhood that did not have an active one and I remember going to the first meeting and he already had a secretary and he already had other people all lined up and he had brought together a group of folks that were just from different generations and some renters and some homeowners and I was just extremely impressed by the tone that he set for that group and how they are so relational and they care a lot about their neighbors and I wish so badly that I could duplicate that in all the neighborhood associations and even start more with that same vibe that he did. So I just want to say thank you for your service. I know you're going to continue to serve our community in one way or another but you made a difference in a lot of different levels over the past five years that you've been here. I wanted to mention that Meadowthorpe movie in the park is coming up and I think it is tomorrow yes it is tomorrow at 730 in Meadowthorpe Park so check that out. There is going to be a community catalyst session from 2 to 3 30 tomorrow in Davis Park by the leasing office and this is going to be a time where we have a nationally known artist that is going to come in and have a conversation. His name is Emmanuel Pratt and he's with the Sweetwater Foundation and they're going to share examples of their work of regenerative neighborhood development and residents are invited to share feedback and ideas related to your vision for the greater Davis Park community. So he would like to do a project in Davis Park and they're going to have conversations around that tomorrow so if you're around please join them for that and we will see each other in a few weeks. Thank you. All right thank you very much. Councilmember Eblen. I also wanted to welcome the Scouts from Troop 186. Troop 186 was a big part of my life. I was an Eagle Scout in that troop as were my three younger brothers and my dad was Scoutmaster there for many years and my dad and I made that big wooden sign you take to camp every year which was we burned up several router blades on that hard oak but anyway welcome and I'm glad you're here. That's great. Thank you. Councilmember Beasley. Thank you Mayor. I have a few announcements tonight starting with we're going to have bingo at our community center on Family Bingo on the 22nd. It's free and open to the public. It's from 6 to 7 30. It'll be at the Tage Creek Community Center so we hope everybody comes out there and plays bingo. Our first one was great so we'll see what the second one does. Every other Monday we have the Kroger Mobile Market coming to Center Parkway so it's at 1165 Center Parkway and it is there from 10 to 1130 and the next time it'll be there is the 28th which is next Monday so if you need to get groceries stop by there and take advantage of that. Our office along with SWAG is having a citywide youth summit on Saturday October the 3rd from 10 to 2 at the Tage Creek Ballroom. We encourage all youth leadership groups to apply. You can go on the website and just tell us how many folks you're bringing. We just want to get the youth input on what they think we need to do to change our city and then we have the Lexington Nighthawk which is our semi pro hockey team coming to the 8th district to teach a street hockey clinic on October the 10th from 10 to 1130 and then they've invited the kids who play to join them for tailgating and to go to the game. Their home opener is tomorrow at 7. I think it's sold out already so if you're ages 6 to 11 and you'd like to participate in that street street hockey you can go to our Facebook and scan that QR code and register for that and then lastly tomorrow is our Center Parkway hours from 4 to 7. We also hand out we have a food distribution on Center Parkway during our Center Parkway hours. Tomorrow we're going to start that early so instead of starting at 530 we'll do it from 4 to 530. Look for the the red tent that we set up in the parking lot. We're trying not to bother the employment solutions work. We're at 1165 Center Parkway and I want to take just a minute to make sure that we thank our partners that help us do this every week. So every week we give out sandwiches and drinks and non-perishable items to the neighbors on Center Parkway who need that to help with their groceries for the week and we couldn't do that if employment solutions didn't give us the space and community action didn't give us the product that we give away. So we just want to say thanks to our great community partners. That's all I have Mayor. Thank you. Thank you very much. Councilmember Curtis. Thank You Mayor. I just wanted to take a second and thank all of the folks. I know that we have quite a few folks signed up for public comment today. Thank you for being here and participating in our civic process and I also just want to make sure that you all know that the way it's all set up and how it works we cannot respond to public comment in real time. But don't think for a second that that means that we aren't listening to you. Thank you. Thank you. Councilmember Sheehan. Thank You Mayor. I just wanted to remind the community that today is Dining Out for Life and it's not too late for you to go and visit visit a participating restaurant because there are lots of restaurants serving dinner and snacks and drinks until the night. So please stop by because 25% of the proceeds go to support Aval Kentucky in our community. Thank You Mayor. Thank you very much. All right. So that brings us to public comment and just to remind council members we have exactly a quorum. So everybody has to stay here. All right. The way this works is when I call your name you'll come to the podium here and you'll need to restate your name for the record and please tell us for the record your council district and most of you will have three minutes. There are a few who have yielded time so you'll have six minutes and I need to just take care of that right now. So is Quinn Troia here? Okay. And are you giving your three minutes to Sean Howard? All right. And is Russell Allen here? Russell? There you are. Are you yielding your time to Katie Mullen? Okay. And then is Eric Beasley here? Okay. Are you yielding to Matthew Fawcett? Okay. Wait. No. Well you wanted to let's see you're yielding to Katherine Shinners. Okay. Excuse me. Yeah. How about Alyssa Coon Harris? Okay. And are you yielding to Colin Harris? All right. Thank you. And then Josh Adams? Are you yielding to Isaac Looney? All right. For all of those who've yielded time the person who received the time will have six minutes. So first up is Sean Howard who will have six minutes and then Katie Mullen who will have six minutes. Welcome. Hi there. My name is Sean Howard and I'm a resident of District 7. A common counter-argument that I hear in response to concerns about flock safety is that there's been no incidents of misuse by Lexington police. But that argument doesn't really make sense to me and I want to explain what I mean. On Tuesday WKYT reported an investigation they conducted into Lexington's audit logs spanning from January to July of this year. Over that period of time seven million searches were conducted. I want you to guess how many of those searches came from Lexington police. You got your guess? The answer is 63,000. So let's just do the math on that really quickly. 63,000 divided by seven million. Nine tenths of a percent. This is the problem with the National Surveillance Network. It's incredibly easy to find examples across the country of folks misusing ALPRs whether it's deliberate abuse or it's by mistake. The next time you hear one of these stories and think oh well that's their problem that's not our police department using our network. Remember our flock network does not work in isolation. It's merely one out of thousands of other networks across the country. So our police department only accounts for a tiny tiny fraction of the searches on our network. So this is why I feel perplexed when people say oh it's just a investigative tool for our police department. We know Lex PD. We don't have to worry about them. I agree. Lex PD is the least of your worries. Why? Because you can audit them. You can regulate the way they use the database. But that sounds great until you remember that that accounts for all of 0.9 percent of the searches. The leftover 99.1 percent are done by other agencies that we have no control over. Now you might be thinking okay we can fix this. We'll just go to flock safety and ask them to disable the agency sharing feature. That way Lex PD will only be able that way only Lex PD will be able to search our network. And I just have to be very upfront and stress to you that flock safety cannot be trusted. Boston did a pilot program with flock safety last year. They set up a network of 45 cameras across the city and they wanted to make sure that only their police department could search the network. On Monday it came out that flock safety just didn't do it. I'm gonna quote from page 26 of Boston's surveillance technology report and I quote pursuant to the contract the flock ALPR pilot program was designed to restrict access to the data collected by BPD ALPR cameras exclusively to trained BPD personnel. The contract clearly noted that data sharing was to be disabled and BPD confirmed with flock that settings were off for sharing. Within three days of initiating the pilot BPD became aware that other law enforcement agencies were able to access license plate and vehicle information collected from BPD ALPR cameras using a nationwide lookup feature that was enabled by the vendor in error. When the Boston Globe reported on this on Monday they spoke to Cade Crockford from the Massachusetts ACLU. She said and I quote Silicon Valley's motto move fast and break things has done a lot of damage to our society. Flock seems to agree that move fast and break things is though is the way to do business and we can see that that has really negative consequences. Also this is a good time to point out that our contract with flock safety has a limitation of liability clause in it. We are paying $317,000 a year for this. Folks we're getting ripped off. This is a private for-profit out-of-state company coming into our city surveilling our citizens and then they give that data to other agencies outside our jurisdiction that we can't control and when someone misuses the system flock puts their hands up and goes oh don't look at us we're not we're not liable. That is such a raw deal you'd think they'd be the ones paying us. The only reasonable solution to this problem is to tear up this contract. Now I was happy to hear the announcement from the mayor's office earlier this month on the panel. I think it's a great step forward but as we take that step we need to keep in mind the ultimate goal here and that is to end Lexington's contract with flock safety. Thank you. Thank you. Next is Katie Mullen who will have six minutes followed by Sarah Katzenmeier. Excuse me. Welcome. Hello thank you. I don't think I'm going to need my yielded time but I appreciate it. My name is Katie Mullen and I am in District 9. Today I'm here to talk about flock cameras and AI data centers. So I'll start by explaining the relationship between the two. Flock cameras would be useless without AI. AI takes the raw footage that the cameras capture and turns it into a searchable database and they aren't just collecting data of your vehicle's license plate but of your face and even your gate. Data centers provide the infrastructure and compute power to create a profile of every single citizen and it's not just flock. We're recorded every time we walk into a retailer, by social media companies, by our phones and now by strangers wearing metaglasses. Flock footage along with the rest of our data that has been stolen to keep us safe and to shill us more things we don't need equips private companies with a mosaic of intimate personal details. They know where we go, what we like, who we love, what speaks to our soul, what keeps us up at night and our biggest fears, desires and insecurities. Flock cameras and data centers provide the infrastructure to erode our most basic rights and freedoms all in the name of safety. But who decides whether or not you are dangerous and by what process? The current administration has already called for many groups who oppose Trump's blatant corruption to be designated as terrorist groups. What happens when your every move is tracked simply because you disagreed with the government? What happens when what you thought was your private data is weaponized against you? These are big issues but this technology being integrated into our communities has the potential to usher in such a reality. Just because this feels far-fetched to you or because you haven't personally been affected by the Trump administration's policies does not mean you get to turn a blind eye to these possibilities. The empty promises of economic development and reduced crime rates are not worth sacrificing the freedom of your constituents. It's uncomfortable but this technology requires you to imagine these possibilities. No one needs this much of our data and by allowing Flock and AI data centers in our community you will be complicit in how it is used. I urge you to cancel the contract with Flock and to ban all AI data centers. You may not have asked for this level of responsibility but you must rise to the occasion. Do not abandon the people. Thank you. Thank you. Next is Sarah Katzenmaier followed by Jacob Stone and then Matthew Fawcett. Welcome. My name is Sarah Katzenmaier. I've lived in district one for 72 years now. I'm alive today because five years ago a bystander knew what to do when a heart stops beating. In 2021 I was dressed as a zombie dancing in the thriller parade in front of the Kentucky theater. I collapsed from sudden cardiac arrest. I was clinically dead. My best bystander was Charlotte Callen and she stepped up and performed CPR in the middle of the parade. She kept me alive until the ambulance could get through the horde of zombies. When EMTs Matt Dixon and Kyle Carr arrived they used an AED to shock my heart back to life while rushing me to the UK hospital where life-saving measures continued. I'm one of the lucky few. The national survival rate for sudden cardiac arrest is less than ten percent and it's even lower in Lexington but it doesn't have to be. After recovering I volunteered with the American Heart Association and now I'm volunteering for a nonprofit called Cardiac Crusade. Their mission is to map AEDs onto the 9-1-1 maps nationwide. You would think that this is already a thing but it's not. I asked Cardiac Crusade to put Lexington next on their list of cities to sponsor because I'm convinced that Lexington leadership will step up and they have been. The support from councilmember Tyler Morton's office, other council members, you know who you are, American Heart and UK Health Care has been incredible. My ask is simple. We need your voices. Please tell your constituents about this initiative. I have sent you the graphics and details about our kickoff meeting. Please share it with your constituents via email. In cities that map their AEDs survival rates have jumped from less than 10% to greater than 60%. All we need is for Lexington residents to download the free PulsePoint AED app. Then when they see an AED while they are out and about they just open the app, touch the plus sign, take a photo and hit submit. This puts it on the map as a gray shield. Then my volunteer group, the Cardiac Cats, will go verify their device making it a gold shield so that it integrates instantly into our 9-1-1 dispatch system. Once verified, 9-1-1 operators and anyone with the PulsePoint app on their phone can locate and direct bystanders to the nearest AED during an emergency. Your voices can help make Lexington more heart-safe just by asking your constituents to map every AED that they come across. The app keeps track of your mapped AEDs so that it makes it fun. I'd like to introduce you to Jacob Stone next, my cardiac rehab hero who was part of my amazing care team at UK Health Care after I suffered cardiac arrest. Thank you. Thank you very much. Next is Jacob Stone followed by Matthew Fawcett. Welcome. Good evening. I'm in the Fifth District. My name is Jacob. I'm an exercise physiologist and director of UK Health Care's cardiac rehab program. Sarah's story is remarkable and as a healthcare professional I've had the privilege of working with survivors like Sarah after they leave the hospital and begin rebuilding their lives. But the reality is for every cardiac arrest survivor I get the opportunity to work with, there are roughly nine who never make it out of the hospital. Those are parents, spouses, friends, neighbors, and co-workers whose stories end before recovery can begin. The encouraging news is that survival is not determined solely by what happens in the hospital. It is often determined by what happens in the first few minutes before EMS arrives. The person standing next to the victim matters. Hands-only CPR is incredibly simple. You do not need a certification. You do not need medical training. If someone collapses and is not breathing normally, call 911, push hard and fast in the center of the chest, and that's it. Those simple actions can triple someone's chances of survival. And CPR is only part of the story. The other piece is rapid access to AEDs. Many AEDs already exist throughout Lexington's schools, churches, gyms, businesses, and community centers. The problem is that during an emergency no one knows where to find one. That is why AED mapping through the PulsePoint app is so important. My challenge to the council and to the citizens you represent is simple. Download the free PulsePoint app and when you see an AED take a photo and submit its location. It takes less than a minute but it can save a life. Because when someone suffers a cardiac arrest the difference between life and death is often an informed bystander taking action immediately. Together we can make Lexington a city where more people survive cardiac arrest and have their opportunity to tell their story just like Sarah. Thank you. Thank you very much. Next is Matthew Fawcett followed by Carolyn Shinners, excuse me, Catherine Shinners who will have six minutes. Welcome. Hi I'm Mattie Fawcett. I live in District 6. I come here today as a concerned citizen. I am requesting that the LFUCG end its contract with FLOC and to not tender any new contracts with any ALPR companies. These cameras are being used to harvest your constituents data to then be sold off to the highest bidder and used to build behavioral profiles. ICE uses the FLOC cameras paid for with our taxes to track and monitor our immigrant neighbors in the effort to terrorize and deport them. They are unethical and go against the spirit of the Bill of Rights being used by law enforcement at every level to erode the rights granted every person in this country under the Fourth Amendment. A recent court case in Virginia, Schmidt v Norfolk, is currently being appealed to the Fourth Circuit Court. Schmidt claims that these cameras violate protections under the Fourth Amendment. It may be that the case here goes to the Supreme Court where they historically side with Fourth Amendment rights, e.g. Chatterey v United States earlier this year. This will most likely end up being costly for taxpayers to resolve a question we all already know the answer to in our hearts. That being these cameras are immoral and unethical. In addition to that there is a lack of human oversight on use of these cameras. Police officers across the country use FLOC cameras to track unsuspecting women to virtually stalk them for a multitude of personal reasons or to track women seeking reproductive health care. According to an article published by 404 media on September 14th 2026, a FOIA request to dozens of local police agencies across the nation on FLOC searches revealed that in the reason column all cops have to fill out to make a search there were many that just mashed keys, put LMAO or leave me alone. These reasons are supposed to be checked by a human to determine the validity of the search claim. It is obvious from this report that little to no oversight is occurring. Even if oversight were occurring, as you heard from Sean earlier, seven million searches came just to the Lexington FLOC system. If each of those searches were given just five minutes of review that would be a cumulative amount of 67 years of checking. This indicates a great lack of oversight and that these people who access the system can search whoever they want whenever they want for no reason. This raises large questions about whether these cameras are safe to have in our community. I believe ALPRs are a harm to all of us and should be removed once contracts have been terminated. Thank you for your time and have a wonderful evening. Thank you. Next is Catherine Shinners who will have six minutes, followed by Pete Lynch. Welcome. There they are. Glasses. My name is Catherine Shinners. I live in District 5. I appreciate being able to speak to you this evening. The data center market is experiencing an accelerated period of expansion in the United States, primarily due to the rapid expansion of artificial intelligence or AI computing needs driven by a few major competing players in the AI market. According to the market intelligence company Clearview, there are 1,287 operating data centers in the United States developed over the period of the early internet days and the enterprise and cloud computing eras and now more recently AI. Now with AI demands there are another 2,090 data centers planned. That is over a twofold increase in a very short period of time. That level of data center expansion energy growth will require six times more megawatts of electricity used than is currently used by these centers in the United States. Any time outsized rapid growth like this occurs so quickly it's often hard to grasp the nature of the change for communities, civic leaders, and governing bodies. Here are some things that are different about AI data centers and perhaps can be a launch point to continue to have careful conversations. AI data centers use special high-powered chips configured in server racks that need up to ten times the power of other data center technology. They operate in a way that generates much more heat and use water-cooled not air-cooled architecture requiring large sustained water use. Their physical plant is also structured differently to accommodate these and other characteristics. Unlike other types of data centers AI operates at peak workloads 24 by 7 meaning there are no peaks and valleys in their operating cycles adding to their overall energy needs. Data centers also generate noise that can impact neighborhoods and wildlife. The jobs picture for AI data centers is variable as well. Construction periods of a year or two do yield construction jobs. Data centers however are lean staffed operations with perhaps 50 to 150 permanent employees. Louisville's Metro Council is also actively working on data center regulations. Their moratorium expires in February 2027. Their planning and zoning committee chaired by their district 9 member Andy Owen met this week to consider zoning restrictions as well as a possible ban. Beyond the important questions of local economic growth, land, energy, water use, and environmental considerations we are all now also now at a moment of national conversation about the nature of AI as a factor in broader social and societal risk. I encourage the council to extend the moratorium to give citizens and leadership the time needed to consider a technology of this magnitude. Thank you. Thank you. Next is Pete Lynch and after Pete is Colin Harris who will have six minutes. Welcome. Hi my name is Pete Lynch. I live in District 11. I teach politics at UK and I'm running for Andy Barr's seat in Congress. I'm going to talk about two things here today. AI data centers and flock cameras which is that this is the third time I've done that here in front of you guys. As I said the last time I was here there are still many issues with the zoning ordinance that you're currently considering. I'm not going to go into all of them right now but I'm going to focus on one in particular. So you've created this new limit where a single property can have up to 25 megawatts of energy being drained from the grid. I actually brought up the idea of a megawatt limit back in June in front of the Planning Commission and that's finally been integrated but it hasn't been done correctly. So the fundamental problem here is that you need to make the limit be based on total properties owned by a company rather than an individual company or an individual property. Hypothetically DART points could subdivide its property under this new ZOTA into like 128 different properties of 10,000 square feet and then build 25 megawatt data centers on every single one of those for 3.2 gigawatts overall. So this is not even close to a serious limit on AI data center construction as long as they have many properties. So you need to make this not be about a single property it needs to be about all properties owned by a single company and its subsidiaries. Now this problem should be obvious and the fact that it's not been addressed yet in the ZOTA gives reason for deep skepticism. This was always going to be a problematic process because the original moratorium was too short. Now I've just mentioned one problem that's the amount of megawatts used but that's far from the only problem. There are many many more problems because not enough time was given for the moratorium to address these issues. If you want to represent our community you need to start by extending the moratorium by at least a year to October 31st 2027. Then you need to ban all data centers follow the example set by Woodford County and then allow server rooms of up to one megawatt for colleges, universities, banks, and hospitals. You also need to impose a cap of 25 megawatts for all properties owned by a single company and its subsidiaries and you need to think about county-wide numbers. You should impose a cap of 50 megawatts across all data centers and server rooms in the county. That's what we need here. Now in terms of flock we have these recent reports from WKYT that 96% of the queries were from out-of-state. It might be tempting to just limit the amount of queries that can come from out-of-state but that's not enough either. You need to end the flock contract. I know that the people of Lexington do not want AI data centers or flock cameras and if you don't know this already you need to hold a public forum so that the people can show you what they think. Then you need to vote on both extending the moratorium and ending the flock contract in October before the elections. The public deserves to know where you stand on data centers and flock cameras before they decide whether to let you stay in office. Thank you very much. Next is Colin Harris who will have six minutes and then Isaac Looney who will also have six minutes. Welcome. Good evening. My name is Colin Harris. I'm a resident of Lexington's District 1 and I'm here to talk about flock cameras and data centers. So first of all I just want to speak briefly about the regulations being considered for data centers. I'm very thankful that we have a City Council that unlike so many others across the country is genuinely receptive to the backlash that this issue is getting and is working on regulations. However I was looking at the public opinion survey and frankly I just don't think the regulations are nearly restrictive enough. Mainly the size restriction. I think the lowest number that I saw offered as an option was 40,000 square feet and I think that is far too large. If we're using square footage as a metric I think there's no reason to go any higher than 20,000 square feet at most or preferably 10,000. Although I do think the 25,000 megawatt restriction is appropriate and I'm glad that it is seriously considered after discussions that it might be difficult to implement. However I will say the concerns raised by Mr. Lynch are very valid and that those loopholes need to be very carefully considered and closed. Based on the statements made by dark points at the last council meeting I attended I have no doubt they will the second they get in they will erode those regulations as much as they can and they will if not just straight-up ignore them and challenge the city to to do something about it. Second I'm calling on the council to immediately give the 30-day notice to flock that Lexington is canceling our contract with them to remove those cameras and to not enter into any future contracts with flock or any other ALPR companies. So my neighbors tonight and in other council meetings have given plenty of reasons that we should want these cameras out of Lexington. Their inaccuracy, the ways that they are abused and the fact that a vast majority of their queries come from outside Lexington. I mean I want to talk about something that scares me more than any of that and that's the role that these cameras play in our national political environment. So currently we have a president who spent the past decade trying to silence any of his critics and actively weaponizing the justice system not only against his political opponents but frankly just anyone he doesn't like. And even beyond the current administration we are ruled by two political parties that show an open contempt for democracy and freedom of speech. Even now we're already seeing multiple cases of these cameras being used to track women in red states crossing state lines for abortions which is legally dubious at best. What kind of crimes do we think these cameras are going to be used to track in a political environment where both political parties are trying to make it illegal to criticize Israel or when agencies like ICE have been given free reign to just kidnap people and send them to concentration camps just off of the accusation that they came to this country illegally often without due process to even have to prove anything. What hope do we have a freedom when the primary project of our federal government is collecting every scrap of information they can on us knowing our exact location at all times, routine, what we like, where we live, all accessible in the case of flock cameras without even needing a warrant for reasons like El de Mayo. Every day we keep seeing headlines further demonstrating how cartoonishly evil the people running these tech companies are. Pierre Thiel, the CEO of Palantir, another tech company that is obsessed with learning more about you than you know about yourself, has publicly stated in front of cameras that in the future technology could be used as an alternative to politics. I challenge anyone in this room to find any interpretation of a statement like that that isn't a totalitarian dystopian surveillance state. Now obviously I don't think there's much the City Council can do about that stuff on a local level but flock cameras are a huge part of the local apparatus being used to build that world in cities all across this country and this Council does have the power to remove those cameras with nothing more than a 30-day notice. We're thankful that the Council is at least looking into regulations but to be clear the goal is not for the cameras to be regulated, we want them removed. Up until recently not many people knew about these cameras but all it takes is a handful of social media posts raising public awareness and suddenly everyone who has heard about them is not in favor of them. Once people understand what these cameras are and what they do, they do not want them here. Please remove them. Thank you. Thank you. Next is Isaac Looney who will have six minutes and then followed by Hudson Chamberlain and Robert Rancine. Welcome. Okay, good evening. My name is Isaac Looney. I'm a resident of District 3. I'm here tonight to speak on the topics of public safety and the use of flock cameras in Lexington. I want to start by thanking this Council, the Mayor and Vice Mayor, for listening to the community about this issue, taking the opinions of your constituents seriously. I'm pleased to see the appointment of a board to review the use of ALPRs. However, many Lexingtonians, such as myself, still firmly believe that Lexington's contract with flock safety should be terminated due to numerous concerns surrounding ALPR technology. For example, it's been recently confirmed that software running on identical flock devices to the ones deployed in Lexington do in fact detect people and pedestrians that pass by them. In conjunction with license plates and bicycles. But Lex PD has stated that our LPRs are not set up to capture images of people or cyclists and I believe them. I think that that functionality may not be employed here in Lexington specifically, but I want to emphasize that this is just a software update. This isn't even an entire change of devices that has to be brought into the city to make this happen. I believe and appreciate that Lex PD takes steps to handle ALPR data as responsibly as they can. However, as you've heard about already tonight, reported by WKYT, over the past seven months there were seven million searches on the Lexington flock camera system and a staggering 96% of those were conducted by external agencies. Meaning that having confidence in Lex PD's use of these cameras is just not enough. The police here have said that an agency has to submit a request that the Lexington police manually approve. I am very interested. I would like to know more about this process going forward. How many people are working on these requests? How long is spent reviewing each request? What constitutes a request that gets denied versus approved? And how many denials have there been? Because you can check my math, but it looks to me that for seven months, if we were spending five minutes to review each request one by one, it would take us 67 years to get through all of those and that's just for seven months. So let's say we wanted to hit that seven month number and we drop it down to a minute per request. It seems to me like you're gonna have to have 60 full-time employees doing exclusively that. So I'm still very curious on how we're handling this. Finally, I do want to acknowledge concerns surrounding community safety. I and everybody in here want to live in a city that is safe. That's absolutely true. However, we just aren't seeing the data proving that these cameras are actually reducing crime. We do, however, have programs in Lexington that successfully reduce crime. One such program being One Lexington. It does excellent work. Programs like One Lexington make Lexington a very special place to live, a very wonderful community to be in, and should be considered a genuine investment in the community when we're putting money towards that. Something that expensive, poorly regulated surveillance technology like flock cameras just isn't. So I state again that I and many others would like for the council here to consider terminating that contract with Flock Safety. Thank you. Thank you. Next is Hudson Chamberlain followed by Robert Rancine. Welcome. Good evening council. My name is Hudson Chamberlain. I am a resident of District 8. I would like to thank you all for maintaining quorum. It is something that could be easily used to politicize or silence your constituents, and yet you choose to stay here and hear us out. I really appreciate that. All right. Last time I spoke about freeing up the funds directed towards the Flock Safety contract to more historically proven means of keeping a community safe. We need more funding and support to employing social workers, expanding those in government processing records requests, as my friend and neighbor Isaac just spoke on. And yeah, I wanted to give a thank you to Commander Brotherton for efficiently facilitating democracy and the transparency it so desperately deserves when he speaks about Flock Safety from a Lexington specific perspective. I understand their policies are most likely above most others, but we've seen that Lexington can't control Louisville's policies on how they access our data. They just do it. Right. So what better way to start down this path than by canceling the contract with Flock Safety? They are now, there are no added fees or whatnot for ending early. Make the motion to write the letter, suspend the rules if you have to, do whatever parliamentary tricks that you have up your sleeves, and do it. After we get done speaking, I would love to, I would love to see it. I will make time to, you know, to sort of see that happen. Right on. Excuse me, it's been a really long day. Here we go. Show the upcoming voters that you take their privacy and right to exist without a big tech hall monitor who acts only in their best interest watching over their shoulders. We've had the good fortune of hearing how Lexington's flock data does not stay when it's within its defined urban service boundary. Despite what many on the other side of this issue espouse, some of which have the privilege of marking a timesheet to do so. This city set a global trend through its conception of an urban service boundary. It's one thing that really surprised me. Sort of just all across the globe, the fact of that we are not going to expand, we are going to focus on what we've already created. There I go off script. In a time where more was better, our city chose to focus on what already was. I challenge this council in its pre election phase to continue that intent to live up to many of your stated progressive beliefs. Stop funding technology that continually pushes the privacy boundary. Many, many of my friends and neighbors have returned to your appropriate roots as a governing body to a time where our city had elected representatives that understood what it meant to invest in its community instead of enabling the corrupting influence of capitalists seeking a bigger, greener number at the intentional expense of the working class. Thank you. Our final speaker is Robert Rancine. Welcome. Hi, my name is Robert Rancine. I live in District 10. It's my first time speaking actually, but I'm here to speak against flock and AI dentists because I think it's an important issue. I'll keep it relatively quick. I just kind of have notes here. I think the main point I want to say is just I've talked to my family, my friends, just my community on this over a dozen people at some length of time and we don't feel that flock makes us feel safer and we see concerns for flock and other similar companies just kind of needing use of AI and some of this other technology that I feel is being pushed. As a software engineer, I think technology is great. I work with it every day and I support the use of technology making our lives safer and better, but I do feel like there's a lot of concerns that many people have brought up here that I fully believe in and I'm seeing myself that I think we need to consider more. I think last time I was here I didn't speak but heard many people speak and one gentleman mentioned some of the flock issues that they had a report coming out with basically saying that they weren't dealing with security issues for some of their security scans that happen over their technology. I thought that was very weird to me because I don't work necessarily exactly with that kind of stuff, but many of my co-workers do and we have timelines to fix security issues that are higher critical within a week. So he talked about that being an ongoing process that hadn't been fixed. It was very disturbed by things like that for a company that is a private company and is handling our data. I did want to highlight that they talk about not having a national database, but they also openly talk about their own goals being that they want open APIs which can and will be used by law enforcement across the nation and they're involving AI technology in this which allows things like dents in cars and other behaviors to be used in these systems to search things and I think it's a concern for our our safety and our privacy and I haven't seen good evidence that this will help safety. I think in Atlanta is the biggest case study there and I think carjacks were the only thing that had any meaningful change over four years with 3,300 integrated cameras. I think that might have been just flock but there's over 28,000 with that include flock, ring, all these other cameras all around this area and yeah I just I think this kind of technology needs a lot more time and a lot more effort to be done correctly so thank you. Thank you very much to all of our speakers tonight and that brings us to the end of our agenda. I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. Thank you. All those in favor say aye. We are adjourned. Thank you all for coming.