All right, we'll call to order the subdivision committee meeting this October 1st, uh, fourth quarter. All right, here we go. Good morning, everybody. Um, 1st of October. Um, the first plan on our agenda, um, final record plat, it's FRP 2627 GDK farm LLC property, the Turner property. Um, this is located at 5447 Tate's Creek road. Um, this is the final subdivision plat. We've looked at their preliminary, um, subdivision plat and the, um, uh, development plan for this a few months ago. Um, the purpose of this, uh, plat is to subdivide the property in a nine single family residential lots, 20 townhomes and two open space lots with associated right of way, um, and access easements. Um, you, you should have a, uh, revised staff report in your packet. They submitted a revised plan on, uh, September 29th. Um, so we have Tate's Creek road here along plan north. And then this is the County line with Jessamine County. Uh, so this development actually crosses the County line. Obviously we're just looking at the Fayette County side, uh, but there is a, uh, uh, concurrent development in Jessamine County. Uh, there's an existing neighborhood to the west, uh, with a stub street tykes pass. Um, there'll be continued into the property. And then they're proposing sanctuary lane, um, coming off Tate's Creek and then continuing on into Jessamine County. Uh, there's an access easement here, uh, facing out to Tate's Creek are, um, townhomes here, townhomes here on the other side of, um, the sanctuary lane with an access easement. And there's a pump station, uh, and an HOA pump stations in, I believe in this area. And then there's a, an HOA lot that spans the County line, um, for the, the drainage. Um, and then, uh, see there's another access easement here to access these townhomes. Uh, and then these are the nine single family lots here, uh, on either side of, uh, tykes pass. Um, zoom in just a little bit. Um, and then there's some HOA, HOA lot, uh, obviously surrounding the townhomes. Um, okay. And with, with that, uh, under the requirements not met, uh, number one, uh, label environmentally sensitive areas and provide required buffers or other protections. Number two, addition of missing sanitary sewer easements for the service laterals, uh, to serve the parcel. Uh, number three, amend the standard street tree note to include four to six species of approved tree location and 25 or 25% maximum planning rule. Number four, add tree protection areas, uh, shown to scale. Number five, depict the street tree planning location in the cross section. Um, and then number six, correct the commission certification. Um, and I'll, I'll get to it, but this will go to the full planning commission. And because of that, the commission certification that was on, it just needs to be changed to the more appropriate certification. Um, there are no waivers requested at this time under design considerations, uh, see all the comments provided by the division of engineering. And then under planning questions and concerns, um, number one, define the maintenance of onsite stormwater management areas. Uh, number two, discuss the removal of trees from the median of sanctuary lane and the need for planning commission review. Um, and I'm, I'm going to come back to that. And then number three, discuss the location and maintenance of the entry features. Um, a few weeks ago, uh, it was brought to our attention that the trees had been removed from the median, um, on sanctuary lane. And that was something that we discussed quite a bit and was a justification for the waiver, uh, during the development plan stage. Um, I'll let the applicant speak more to why that happened, but, um, that was something that we were concerned about. And that was something that we were concerned about. And because of that, uh, we're, it needs to move forward. They potentially need to, uh, update their preliminary subdivision plan to reflect that. Um, they don't need to update their preliminary subdivision plan. They just need the planning commission to approve this change from the preliminary subdivision plan in terms of tree protection. Right, right, right. Sorry. Sorry. My bad. Yeah. Um, so, um, and I haven't had a chance to talk directly to Eric about it, but there's been some emails back and forth. Uh, but at this time we're recommending postponement. The applicant will need to prepare a revised tree protection plan and propose a mitigation plan. Uh, and then we have the standard sign-offs for the final record plat, engineering, traffic engineering, landscaping, addressing urban forest or environmental quality, um, addition of utility and street light easements, uh, division of water qualities approval of the cap requirements, U.S. Postal Service, and then to correct all noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met herein. Um, and with that, I'll, I'll open it up to the committee. Yep. Yeah. Do we know whether the urban forester was aware in advance that those trees were going to be removed? I don't believe he was aware in advance. He was not. Um, he found out after. He has been in contact with them. And my recall previously in front of us was that that boulevard was set up to preserve those large trees. Right. And there's, I don't believe they're proposing, and again, Nathan can clarify, but they're not proposing to change the cross section or anything like that. Uh, there was, well, I'll let Nathan give you the history of it, but, um, we, we became aware of it, uh, by staff member drove by and saw that the trees were missing. So, that's how we were aware. Uh, anyway, if you have any other questions for me, I'd be happy to answer. Any other questions for staff? You mentioned access easements. Uh, show me where they, the access easements are again. Okay. So, off of Sanctuary Lane, there's an access easement. Okay, that's X. Yeah. And in the direction that the townhouses face, is it the access easement? Yes. Okay. I believe, and Nathan can clarify, but I believe from what we were told before, these would face out toward Tate's Creek. Okay. And then I assume these would face south. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Any other questions for staff? All right. We'll hear from the applicant. Good morning, committee. My name is Nathan Billings with Billings Law Firm, and I represent Troy Turner, uh, and the developer of this project. Um, so, uh, a couple of things. First is coming back to your question about the easements. They will face Tate's Creek. The ones that face Tate's Creek, they're on the easement, do face there. And then the bottom four or five face this easement, but all of these have their frontages that face Tate's Creek. And you all have previously granted a waiver for those, uh, for the access easements there. We've updated the plan for a number of staff comments, including that the detention area down here, it actually extends over into Jessamine County. So, we have one lot that's actually over the county line. So, we are, our revised plan actually shows, uh, how it goes over the edge there. I don't know how to move that up to show it, but oh, there we go. So, you can see right there how it's been added, uh, as a lot. Um, other changes were made. The big issue is the trees. As you all recall, we specifically designed the entrance of this farm to preserve the red maples on each side and sought a waiver for the cross section so that the, what is currently the farm road will be the linear trail walking path. And then the trees will be preserved on each side. Um, you know, I wasn't, uh, I wasn't aware of this ahead of time. If I had been, I think we would maybe be a little bit easier to talk through this, but my understanding is when Mr. Turner was in Florida on vacation, the contractor, uh, got into the tree roots, um, as they were excavating for the road. Um, they got a letter from Dave Leonard who said that these trees aren't going to survive that. Um, and the contractor went ahead and removed the trees. I think Vaughn, my understanding is maybe Vaughn contacted Mr. Turner. Is that right? Um, and got him involved. And then I was really involved, started talking with Eric as well about the project. Um, my understanding is that Mr., well, Mr. Turner's hired a landscape architect to work with Eric to come up with a tree protection area, a tree, uh, a tree mitigation plan. The plan is still that the waiver for the cross-section, he's still planning red maples. He's going to replace all those back through there. And they're working with Eric, not only to, to make sure that all of the tree plantings on the site to conform to the regulations. I've emailed, um, obviously the group, because it involves EGLE engineering, Eric, the tree people asking where their approval is on it. And I haven't heard back where they are. It's been the plan. I think we'll probably next week ask for postpone two weeks to be heard at the end of October, because I want to get my hands around it and make sure that it's good. Um, I'm out next week on fall break. So I was hoping to get it resolved this week, but I don't think this week. So, um, I know that they have reached out to Eric. Uh, I want to confirm, you know, affirm for you all, like the importance of this tree line path is very important, Mr. Turner. I mean, it wasn't done intentionally to go just to remove trees. I mean, he, he wants the linear path, the tree planting schedule that I've seen includes that. And actually what it actually adds a second line of trees on the outside of the road as well now, um, that wasn't there before because he, he's designed this site, this entrance to utilize the farm road and the tree line path is not going away. It is unfortunately been changed because of that, but it's not going to, I mean, we went through a lot of work on the waiver, which it would have been easier to not do the waiver. It would be easier just to take the trees out and plant trees somewhere else and do a regular road. Um, but it's, it's sort of difficult. You sort of look like you have egg on your face when something like this happens, but I want you all to know that, um, he hired a landscape architect to come in and work with Eric, not just the engineering, but somebody who knows trees, knows planting schedules. The one I see has, um, I want to say it's like, like three times the amount of trees that were moved or being replanted on site. But, um, I know Eric's in the field a lot of the day. He's not always at his desk, but he's the one who needs to sign off on the TPP. Um, so I've just asked Mr. Turner to work with Eric, the landscape architect and himself and what Eric signs off on. That's what we're going to do. Okay. Any questions for the applicant? So again, our intent is I'll probably send Zach over next week just to ask for, uh, to move it to the end, to the zoning docket. Um, of course the full committee will need to vote next week on it, but just because I think we want to make sure that the plan gets done correctly, everybody signs off on it before we come back. And if we can't, we'll be there in November. Okay. All right then. Thank you so much. Thank you. Wait a second. Okay. Nathan, wait a second. Wait a second, Nathan. Wait a second. Hold on. You know, I'm just thinking, uh, we've, we've heard plenty of stories as far as the bulldozer operator in the past. Maybe we need to start bringing these bulldozer operators in here to talk to us about this. I'll be glad to ask the Island Company guy to come in. I would, I would offer to say one, yes, you work with Eric, but this tree mitigation plan definitely needs to be in place and signed off on before this thing goes forward anywhere. Oh, absolutely. That's why, I mean, look, I'm, I'm a good one to stand in front of you and, and give the story and ask for permissions, but if you, I don't know how familiar you are with the site. I know your farm's on the north side of town, but I assume you've been out there. If you remember, I did a, a, a study when I was at UK with this farm. So we don't need to revisit that. So you, so you remember, I mean, the, the owner did not want these trees removed. I mean, this was, we spent a significant amount of time designing a linear park to utilize the farm road and the trees. And I guess the real question is like, why does that not get communicated? And you may not know, and the other attorneys in the room may not know, but like, I think the gap is there's no communication between the plan getting approved and then the person in the field. And how do we make that happen? Yeah. Well, it is my problem, right? I have to, I have to, I have to answer the question. Eric was at the pre-construction meeting. That's one thing that we as staff have done. And is Allen Company there? I assume they're at that pre-con meeting, right? I don't, I'm not in that, like sort of once these plans get signed off, I'm like, the attorneys are usually out of the construction business. Like we don't, we're not normally on site. I'm glad you showed up. Yeah. When I'm saying it's not your problem, I'm saying this is a system level problem. We need your input on how to fix it, but we got to fix it as a system. I mean, this is my, my understanding is that there are engineer plans that is given to the contractor and the contractor is supposed to follow those plans and staff signs off for the plans. I, I don't know if the plans are wrong. I mean, this is where I don't, I almost hope we'll welcome engineering's view too on this. Like this clearly showed where the roadway is. It clearly showed where the trees were. I don't know how that happens because this isn't something that was malfeasance. It wasn't intended to be that way. I mean, this is going to cost Mr. Turner a lot more money for a product that's not as good as what would have been there. So it is, it is, it could be a system wide problem. It's also Mr. Turner's, you know, practical problem because he now has, if you'd see the renderings before, he had 30 year old maple trees that are 40 foot tall to line the entrance to this subdivision to sell houses. And now he's going to have, you know, 20 foot tall, three inch caliper, whatever they're going to be, trees, which just doesn't have the same curve of it. So there's frustration that this happens because it's not, in fact, he had actually gone ahead and ordered, I believe it's 200 trees from a nursery until Eric said, no, no, no, don't do that. So he actually called and canceled the order until Eric can approve the new tree, the tree schedule. But I don't know from a system wide because I'm not. We've seen it before. Yeah, we, we saw seven burrow trees cut out on on the 4th of July. I mean, I don't know many people that work on the 4th of July. I mean, this is, I don't, I don't know if this is a solution because I don't know construction work very well, but like we have silt fencing, right, on the boundaries. Like, do you establish the tree protection fencing? I don't, I don't know if that works or not. I mean, he's, yeah, he knows this stuff better than I do. I don't, I don't know the solution because I'm not an engineer and I'm not a construction guy. I'm, I'm the lawyer. Well, but sometimes it's beg forgiveness rather than ask permission. That's been the approach so far, right? That just creates a lot of angst and resentment. I mean, it's, I've been around here a long time and this has been a problem ever since I've been here. And, you know, I don't, I don't want to put it all on the, on the, on the contractor because some of it is intentional and we've got to figure out how to stop that because in your situation, you know, that was a feature they wanted to keep. Sometimes it's just in the damn way and we want to put an entrance there and we cut I mean, in this case, I can tell you absolutely, Mr. Penn, this was not intentional. I mean, it's, um, no. If you're talking about systematic, I mean, the staff's going to figure out some way that we can do that. I don't know how you do it unless they're before true. There's supposed to be tree protection fencing around every tree that's being protected. So, when, when you meet on site before that happens, I'm assuming none of those, none of those things have been done yet. Yeah. So, does the urban forester need to come back after the fence is in place before they can start doing anything, you know? Well, in the question of the root structure and making sure that the people doing the road preparation know how to protect the root structure out away from where the tree is going, that's part of the problem. And that's, that's what, I don't know if you were on site, but that's what I think happened here is, and I don't know whether there was fence around the trees or not. I don't, again, I'm not, like, I don't look at the construction plans and I'm not on site. But my understanding is where the, you know, where the roadbed goes is, that's when they started cutting it in and they went down, you know, I don't know, 36 inches or whatever it was. That's where they cut in the roots. It wasn't, I said at the TRC last week, the root ball, it wasn't the root ball, it's the root system, I guess I meant. That's, again, I'm a lawyer, not the dirt guy. They're smarter than I am on how to do this stuff. But I don't have an answer for the system-wide stuff. This is the first time I've had to deal with it. So, but I do have to, but I do want to make sure that, like, you all know that he's hired a landscape architect to, not just to do renderings, but to come in and do a tree planting schedule. Her name is Sherry Miller, and work with Eric on that. I know they've submitted it to him. I've emailed him twice this week. I know he's in the field. Because we weren't able to get that done before today for staff, it seems to me it'd probably make most sense that we would try to get that done next week and then come back. If the zoning, I think it looks like a lot of postponements anyway, maybe. I don't know what, I don't know what the docket looks like, so it's... For the zoning hearing? Yeah. Yeah, we have six cases. Yeah, but... And three textings. Are they all going to be heard? Well, anyway. We'll know more this afternoon. We'll know more this afternoon. Yeah. I would say not all of them are going to be heard. And I'll be here this afternoon too, but anyway, that's, that's our project. Everything else is, I think, is just technical sign-off and revisions to the plan. So, they're probably... Vaughn, you know better than I am, when's your last inspection out there? When was the last time you were out on site? A couple weeks ago. Personally, it's been a few weeks, but I have an inspector that checks on it monthly and when things are happening that they need to look at. My assumption is they're still probably six weeks at least from closure, maybe eight weeks. So, postpone, you think more than that? They haven't built the roads yet and they're still working on... Oh, they told me they're building the roads this week. So, that was... Anyway, delaying it two weeks isn't going to hurt us. That's what I'm trying to communicate. It's, we're still got plenty of time and if this gets pushed November, it's still not the end of the world. So, all right. Okay. All right. Thank you. No, anything else? Nothing else. Okay. Okay, great. Thank you. You've got to put up with some of this at times. All right. Part of the job. It needs to filter down. Okay. Do we have any public comment? Seeing none, we'll bring it back to the committee. Madam Chair, I'll move for recommendation, postpone and plan FRP 26-27, GDK Farms with the 10 conditions and noted discussion. All right. Motion has been made and seconded. All those in favor? We're unanimous. All right. We'll go to the next item. Okay. Our next plan, this is a preliminary development plan in conjunction with a zone change request. This is PLN MJDP 2660, Windhurst Place, Block B, Lots 12-17 and Hagerman Court Subdivision. This is the up-campus development and this is located on East High Street, Hagerman Court, Stone Avenue. So, on the plan, we have East High Street to the right, Stone Avenue to the bottom of the plan and Hagerman Court to the top to the north. Actually, I guess that would be more kind of west. The YMCA is across East High Street here. I'll give you a little bit more context. Let's see if we have got an aerial. So, you can see that kind of the green outline shows the lots that are incorporated into this development plan, this zone change request. So, again, you've got the Y across the road and then Hagerman, Stone here and East High Street. So, the applicant did submit a revised plan on the 29th and, again, the purpose of this is to depict a multifamily building in support of the requested zone change from an R4 zone and P1 zone to a downtown frame business B2A zone. Under requirements not met, number one, correct the title block to match the staff report. Oh, sorry. Let me go back. Go a little bit more into it. So, the revised plan is different from the initial plan. The initial plan showed more of the roof layout and this plan shows more of the first floor layout. So, they're showing a lobby, leasing, and amenity area on this corner, Stone and East High, then an entrance to the ground level parking off of Stone, and I believe there's another entrance that comes off of Hagerman into another level. And they're showing kind of a sort of like a plaza area here and then where they border the residential to the southwest. They have some space there between the building and the property lines for a buffer. They had previously shown a fence in that area and it's removed on this plan. So, without the fence, they don't have enough for the 15-foot buffer to the adjacent property. So, that's one of the questions that we had. So, under requirements not met, number one, correct the title block to match the staff report. Number two, denote the construction entrance location. Number three, add the RLA stamp or ISA certified arborist name and certification number to the tree inventory map. Number four, depict a minimum eight-foot landscape buffer along the adjacent R4 properties to be used in conjunction with the six-foot privacy fence, and that's what I mentioned. The six-foot fence has been removed on the revised plan. Number five, provide some short-term bicycle parking spaces outside the building within 20 feet of the lobby entrance. They do show, is it going in and out? I also have a head full of ragweed, so I'm not really sure if you can hear me or not. So, they are showing some internal bicycle parking in the parking garage area, but the bike ped's asking for, which is a requirement of the ordinance, that within 20 feet of the entrance that there's some short-term bicycle parking. Let's see. Number six, locate the stormwater management on the development plan. Number seven, depict the cross-section lines across the right-of-way on the plan face, and I think it just fell off from the initial plan. They were on the initial submittal. They're just not on there now. Okay, and I kind of thought that was the case, but, and then number eight, label three rooms facing East High Street on the northern corner of the building. They each just have a D, and I can't find any reference what the D is for, so just label the purpose of those rooms or spaces. Number nine, correct the purpose of the plan to match the staff report. I think it just, if you can just add something in the purpose of referencing the zone change. Let's see. No waivers are requested at this time, and then under design considerations, number one, see all of SELA comments provided by the Division of Engineering. Number two, commercial driveway entrances shall comply with standard drawing 307-2. Number three, address sanitary sewer capacity and confirm capacity. Number four, consider adding on-street parking to the left side of High Street, and I believe they, I believe on this, they are showing a drop-off area there, and I believe on, along Stone as well, and possibly, yeah, I think there's a couple spaces up here on Hagerman, so they've added some drop-off areas that we'd asked for previously. Let's see. Number five, while there is parking on both Stone Avenue and Hagerman Court, it's likely drop-offs will still choose to block traffic rather than park on those side streets, so it looks like they're kind of addressing that in a meaningful way. Number six, a sanitary sewer capacity application is required prior to the issuance of a building permit, and then under plan questions and concerns, number one, discuss potential drop-off locations along East High Street. Number two, discuss the existing street trees. There is a rather large tree near the corner of Stone and East High on the Stone side. Discuss the height of the building versus adjacent building heights. Number four, will the courtyard have pedestrian access, and the previous plan did show a courtyard on the upper level. Number five, discuss the activation of High Street and a more urban, open-use space for gathering and traversing. Number six, what is the proposal for stormwater management? Verify capacity and quality requirements are met. Number seven, check right-of-way for Hagerman Court against Platte Book 1, page 124 from 1906. Number eight, discuss removal of the six-foot privacy Number eight, discuss removal of the six-foot privacy fence shown on previous version of the plan, and number nine, discuss place builder criteria, and we are recommending approval provided the Urban County Council approves the zone change, and then the sign-offs for engineering, traffic engineering, urban forest, or open space, and then to correct all noted deficiencies listed as requirements not met herein. And with that, if you have any questions for me, I'd be happy to answer. Any questions? Thank you, Madam Chair. What was that? Yeah, right, yeah, yeah. Okay, Chris, thank you. I don't know if that would get it all or not, but the green line showing the outline of the property, what's going to be on the left side, I guess you would say the southwest corner. What else goes down Hagerman Court? I know there's construction on that other development. How, how much of, how much of the residential is left on Hagerman Court between the two proposed? There's a few. I would estimate maybe eight to ten single-family homes remain. They're very small lots, um, and then maybe six remaining on stone. Sounds, sounds right. Outside of something we've already considered, like we've obviously considered quite a few parts of stone already, but yeah. Okay. Does that seem right? Maybe eight or ten? I can pull up the development plans for you so I can show the pieces. Okay, all right, thank you. All right, anything else for staff? Thank you. Now we'll go to the place builder. Good morning, Dalton Belcher. I'm the planning staff. So, for the place type, the applicant has selected the downtown place type. Staff finds that would be appropriate. This is within the area of the downtown master plan. Based off the size of the structure they're proposing and the density of the project, we don't really see an issue with what they're proposing for the downtown place type. We find that to be appropriate. And then as for the neighborhood meeting, they had a neighborhood meeting yesterday evening at the library. Staff did attend that. It was well attended by the public. I'll let the applicant kind of get into more of the specific comments that they got about feedback on the, on the project. But at this time, any questions for me on this? Any questions about place builder? I don't know if it's, thank you, I don't know if it's place builder or if I missed it when Chris was talking a moment ago. How many, how many stories is this? So, it's 10, but there is also a kind of a step down going back, going towards the southwest portion here. I'm sure the applicant, the renderings will certainly show that. I'm certain, but it steps down, but 10 at the highest. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Let's hear from the applicant. Good morning, everyone. Brandon Gross. I guess this microphone is not working. Oh, okay. Sorry. Perfect. Well, I like, you know, I like to strut. So, Brandon Gross, on behalf of the applicant, I have Jahad Helene with me, and then I have Tyler Ammerman from the developers also with me, and so I'll go through, Paula, if you could pull that up, and this will answer a lot of the questions. So, a little bit of background. We filed this starting in July for the August filing deadline. I had to be in Dallas, Texas last month for a project, and so I had to miss last month's meeting, but we were not idle during the last 30 days. We have, we were able to take the stats report on both the zoning and for the development plan. We made substantial changes based upon that. We've met with the urban forester to discuss the trees. We've met with the pedestrian planner. We've met with traffic engineering, and so we've cobbled together all those comments, and we've made a bunch of revisions to address a lot of the things that were on here, and I'll walk you through some of that, and then Jahad will talk about the stormwater and some of the other engineering aspects, and so Up Campus is based in Chicago. This would be their first project here in Lexington, and so this gives you a general idea of where we are. So, there's, you can see the project site. We're about, we're within a five-minute walk of the University of Kentucky and within downtown, and so we are within what would be the core downtown district underneath the downtown master plan, and we're on the high street corridor, which we're going to see some new developments come in the future depending on which block we're in, and I'll talk a little bit about our vicinity more so, but eventually I've seen UK's master plan. You know, they have plans for this area. Then, you know, this area here is the post office, which essentially a one-story building on a parking lot. My understanding is a developer has purchased that. The post office has a year or two left on their lease, and once that burns off, we will probably see that site redeveloped into a higher density product would be my guess, but it's not been officially announced, and so this kind of shows you the projects that we know are ongoing, the projects that we know are coming but have not been officially announced of what we're going to see yet, and then our project. So here's our project at this location. This is the Maxwell project. This is Gil Bain's project. This is the VIRB, that is Subtex project. The YMCA is here. We know it's going to be redeveloped. I've heard rumors of, I've heard rumors up to 20 stories, and so, but that's a buy right project, so to my knowledge, nothing's been officially filed, so we have an idea. This is the CORE Spaces project that you guys saw last year. You recommended approval. The council on 8-7 denied that approval, and CORE has decided to move forward with a buy right project, and so you will not see that project. They have not announced that. I haven't seen the plans for that project, but my understanding is to make their project work, they're going to, rather than having 800 people on one block, they needed a second block, so they do, so I think they're doing two four-story projects now instead of one eight-story project, and so those are there. Once again, those haven't been announced either, but I think there'll be four stories because that's what's permitted by the zone. So, this is the overall site, which was already shown, so in this area here, we are doing the solid fence. That got, unfortunately, with the engineering software, you can actually check a box off. That was actually checked off. It will be added. The plan is also, we're going to have trees planted down this area, and then I'm going to show you what we have proposed for the step back against those properties, and so I'll show that in a minute. Then, as you can see here, we do have, I think we're going to end up removing about eight trees from this site. We are going to, we've talked with Urban Forester, we may be able to preserve this one. We'll work with him during the final development plan. It essentially splits, I want to say a hackberry, but I can't recall for certain which one, which tree. It's on our tree inventory map. I would describe all the trees in the center as voluntary trees. Some are growing under the garage, some are growing within two or three feet of the foundation. They're not located in places that you should have them, but on this street here, we were, we talked with him, and this is where kind of we have the balancing of different things the community wants, and so I'm going to talk about what we're doing with the roadway, but we think here and here are two significant trees. They're in pretty good shape. We're going to, there are, they are in within the public right-of-way, so they're pretty constrained, and so we're going to probably do bulb outs at those locations, so that will give them a little bit more space. We think we can preserve them. If not, we will come back and replant them later after post-construction if that occurs, but we've talked with Eric about these two. The two in the middle will come down, and that's part of the overall plan in our discussions with the pedestrian planner and traffic engineering on some things they would like to see, and also some things we've heard from you and the community of how we want to mitigate the short-term parking aspects of new high-density projects downtown. So here's our current, so this is Hagerman Court looking towards East Main. This is the corner of East, I mean, High and Stone. This is looking down Stone. This is the corner of Hagerman and High Street. This property here, this house here is the oldest structure on the project, but it's already zoned B2A. So that's not part of our zoning application. It is part of the overall project, but it's not part of the zoning application itself. None of these properties are within the H1 overlay. You know, as we saw with what's occurred on the blocks, the block that was before you last year, these buildings could come down today, tomorrow for redevelopment within their current zones. But there probably will be a lot of discussion with the public on that house. We have met with the Bluegrass Trust, Dr. Zach Leonard. I have not met, but my clients talked with him on several occasions. We have looked at, could we move the house forward? Could we somehow keep it, build over it? And so we've looked at some options. So far, we've not found one that's feasible. We did offer, if someone wanted the house, we would give it to them. There are surface parking lots within a quarter mile. So I don't think it'd be super expensive to have it moved. So we've offered for someone to have it for free. That didn't go over well last night, but it is an offer on the table. Yeah, it is an offer on the table. So yeah, it's a lot easier when it's someone else's money to save a structure than when it's your own. But we are in discussions. But right now, the plan, we've not found a viable way just because how far back it sits and how much space this project would lose. It's a very long building. Okay, so this is the overhead shot of the project. And so I'm going to walk up a little bit here. It'll be easier. Okay, so if you see here, these, oh yeah, so these are the two existing trees we were speaking of. This here is going to be one of the primary entrances to the development, pedestrian entrances to the development. We will have indoor bike parking here. We will show, the plan is to have exterior bike parking. We'll show that where it's going to go. So we'll take care of that. That's on the list of things to take care of. This here is going to be short-term parking. So the intent will be that will be for your Ubers, for any grocery deliveries, for any food deliveries, so that it moves the traffic out of the road and into these spaces. So that is going to be short-term. It's going to be labeled as such. So you're not going to be able to sit there all day in that spot. It's going to be, you know, one of the 10-15 minute type drop-offs. Then when you, so these are the two trees I was speaking of. You can see we're going to extend, close the gap a little bit here on to make the crosswalks more narrow for pedestrian safety. As we go around the building, we've talked with the planners, pedestrian and traffic, about adding additional spaces here. There currently are no spaces at that location. Part of the idea was if we had spaces here, and then the YMC project could add spaces on their side, that would create that narrowing effect to slow down traffic. We are in discussions about what to do at this location crossing High Street. Whether or not we do, we're showing a bump out. So these will be protected and narrowing it down. So we've talked with Scott about, you know, do we do the bump out, and then maybe they do the bump out, and the city comes in later and does a four-inch raised pedestrian walkway. But he said, and we agree that until we know what's going on here. So the final development, I told him we put a crosswalk here. It's a placeholder for us to discuss at the final development plan stage with him. Most of our students will be going that direction, but we do want them going downtown. We think with all this new residential housing, for those who are downtown a lot, if you cross Limestone down to Midland, there's a dearth of retail and services. And so we're hoping that with all these projects, we'll see a revival of some of those storefronts on that side of downtown that have been repurposed over the years because there were not enough, there was not enough foot traffic to keep them occupied. So that is part of the, I think the overall plan for the downtown master plan also. And so that's part of, we want to make sure there's a safe crossing. Then we get to Hagerman Court. Hagerman Court is interesting because it's number one, not a court. And number two, it's essentially an alley. And so it's a very narrow street. It's substandard. If you walk Hagerman, I think most of the sidewalk is maybe two feet, three feet if you're generous. So we will be upgrading here. We are in discussions with widening, whether once again close this gap. This here is essentially a delivery area. So the garbage will be handled with a compactor inside. This here will be for service trucks. This is not for resident parking. Essentially these are where most of the back end services are on Hagerman. That's really the alley side of the building. And so that's where we've put our generators and our other kind of service related parts of the building. I'm going to, I will show you later, but we're going to make this, we've been discussions to have this to be two-way. This will be one entrance to one level of parking. And then this will be a second entrance to a second level of parking. There will not be any cross access to either one of those. So we'll have 80 parking spots off Stone and then another 80 off Hagerman. By widening this to two-way, it will encourage people to be able to turn back onto High Street. As part of this project, we've eliminated all vehicle access points along High Street. And then we've, we've gone down to essentially two vehicle conflict points with this project from the approximate five or six that are currently there. Now looking on the inside, and I'm going to go through this level by level because I know it's hard when you look at the development plan. It's 2D. There's lots of levels. There's lots going on. It's hard to see what everything is. So I'll go through that. But just from the top, we will have a courtyard. The courtyard will have access for the residents. So we can show a door there, but I can put on the record there will be access to the courtyard. The levels, we will start stepping those back. And I'm going to show you how that's going to go. It's going to be a tier terrace system will be how we handle that. And then, so we'll go to the next. Okay, so this is our ground level. And so the elevation from High Street back to Maxwell Street rises. And so our ground level will be mostly parking. And that parking is accessible from Hagerman Court. So people will be able to come in this direction, park in these spaces. You can see here where our trash hole, trash, electric generators, and other things of that nature. On the High Street side of things, we'll remove these D's. Currently, we have, we're showing townhomes. There'll be two level townhomes with an entrance onto High Street. But we are, I talked to my client, and if it's preferred to have a retail section here, we could also change that to a retail section. These will be built to height where that could be done. But we're also open to discussing with you and the planning staff if we want a retail. We think, my client thinks townhomes would work best there, but we're also willing to discuss that point with you. Then you'll have a lobby on High Street with a couple entrances here. And that's kind of this ground level. And these plans are attached to the justification letter, if you guys have access to that, on your systems, however they share information, if you want to look at these a little bit more closely. Then going up to the second level, this will be the second floor of the townhomes. This will be an open area. I came, mezzanine, what do you, mezzanine type space. So it'll open up to the second floor lobby. The building will go past, so there will be little covered areas. And then on this instance, parking will be accessible from Hagerman, and so will the bike parking. And then the other part of the lobby will have an entrance at this location on the second floor. Now, this is the renderings we have prepared. This is at Stonehenge High. So you can see part of the lobby, open air or amenity space. And then you can see the main entrance lobby here at that location. We are proposing to have either full balconies or Juliet style balconies to balconies to have access to the exteriors and to break up the building more than just the materials. This is the location at Hagerman in high, and so we think we will have spaces due to how you just set up residential units that work. The plan is to have murals and other art type things shown in the blank spaces. Stonehenge High at a higher elevation. And then, so this is the, I'm going to kind of jump through these, this is what quote is the second level. This is where we start getting into the residential portion. You could see the here, the entrances into the second level courtyard. It'll be open air through the top at that point. I'm just going to kind of flip through these because these are pretty standard levels, but I'll move back up here. So, here's where the terracing starts to start moving the building back as we get higher. I believe we are proposing at this point 63 feet and then we'll start going back 60. 60 feet is the maximum allowed in the R4. So, essentially that's the maximum height that's allowed on the next door property. So, we've started at that location to where, okay, now we're more or less approximately where they could possibly build and now let's start tapering it back as we get closer to East High Street. And then here, this shows you kind of the terracing that will occur and also shows you a better, like, this is, you know, the ground floor lobby, partially buried garage, second story garage, and just how we go with the elevation. So, this is stone facing east. So, this shows you with scale how this terracing will work in with the current heights of the buildings. There is, first you have the side yard for their buildings, then we're going to do, have our side yard, then we'll have trees and other landscaping, our solid fence. We'll go up and then we'll start tapering it back. We did do a solar and shade study. We did this at June, March, and December, three times of the day for this particular client. Where they're located is good because of the way the sun rotates around this site. You can see here, this building here is in the shade in the morning, but then by the afternoon it starts picking out. Here it's in the shade, but that shade is not caused by our building because of the way the sun rotates. And I've been studying this a lot because I've been planning some native gardens in my yard. And so, I have to go out and make sure I'm putting them in the right place because of the way the sun. And my wife has always corrected me that I'm getting it wrong. And I put it where she tells me and she's usually right on how it operates. So, my house faces kind of that same direction as this building. Yeah, that's exactly right. So, yeah, I was complaining about where we were going to put a new tree and she was like, it'll be fine. Don't worry, Brandon. I've already looked at this. I'm like, are you sure? And yeah, it was fine. Yeah. This is an elevation that shows the materials that are being proposed. So, another elevation. This is along Stone Avenue. This one is along Hagerman. So, as you can see, we pushed the tallest part of the building on High Street and we've attempted to walk it back as we got to the residential area. The single, two-story houses that are next to the building. So, looking north from Maxwell, this is what it'll look like, Maxwell Street. And so, yeah. So, that's kind of the overall. I know it's a lot of information, but I know you guys like the information. And I wanted to be able to answer questions so we can properly address any issues you see with the plan before we do another submittal. Just out of curiosity, because we went through these questions about the first time we saw one of these projects, what's the exterior building material? Are we talking brick and something else or what are we looking at? Yeah, let me go to this. So, what they're showing here is masonry brick veneer on the lower levels. And then, you know, there's corrugated metal, there's some other. And as you move higher up, it turns into fiberboard or other type lighter material as you move up. But at the ground level, it's going to be brick or other masonry materials. And yeah, that's what it is. Yeah. So, if you have fiber cement and it's essentially press board, that looks like brick, but it's actually a cement or an acrylic product. But as studies have shown, kind of once you get past what people can see with their naked eye, as you go up and, you know, you could use alternative materials. Those materials are like anything. Your asphalt shingles will last 20 years. Then you have to replace them. It's very similar. You'll have some maintenance on those levels like you would with any other kind of product. But the idea will be that bottom level where people actually see will be brick or masonry. Any other questions? Brandon, where you show these trees on the terrace part, does that have public access or not? Would that be for the resident to be able to access? Yeah, that's what I mean. I said public, but. Yeah. So. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, presumably, if you had one of those apartments, you could be able to access that. Yes. Each of those levels. Yeah. Push the resident farther away so that they're not standing right on that edge looking down into neighbor's backyard. So, again, bringing the grade level landscape up into the building and then creating a bit more of a buffer as well. I mean, that's a great improvement because where you put those terraces, you can't get to it. No, that's right. It's yeah, it's safety amenity space if you don't otherwise let people access it. Yeah. Could you state your name? Sorry. Tyler Ammerman with Up Campus. If I may, let me follow up with the trees up on the upper canopy setbacks. Uh, we have seen those disappear from plan to plan in the past. I'm presuming these will stay around through construction or will be put in at the end of the day. We can agree to that. I mean, the idea will be they'll be planted. It'll be planters. And so, yeah, that's not it. I mean, it doesn't do any good for anybody to tease us and then they disappear. Definitely, we'll keep the landscaping. We can agree to that. They will be smaller type trees just loading purposes. But we can make it. We could put we could put a note because we have to put a note on the plan anyways related to the multifamily design standards. So, we got a similar note related to that feature. But you are using that for green space. The terraces. I don't believe that's in the calculation. Yeah, it's not. That's not in the calculation. It will be open space. I don't think technically it could be counted as vegetative open space. We'd have to look into that and maybe be able to count it as innovative, innovative open space, maybe. But we have we otherwise meet the current standard on open space and green space on this plan without that terrace. Yes, sir. One of the things I would offer, it was mentioned a moment ago as far as the first floor townhouses or retail. My personal preference would be retail. You know, buildings like that, I just I just don't see people walking out of their living room onto a streetscape like High Street, you know, and I think it's a good amenity as well. And then lastly, I hope you have good communication with your bulldozer operator. Oh, why is that? You talking about for our trees? Oh, yeah. Well, I'm on I'm on the case. You may have only one tree. Yeah, I'm on the case. That's right. Yes, you do. Well, I'll tell you, this is a funny story. Even when you work with the city sometimes. So I've got so I own a duplex on Venice Park, side anecdote. And as part of the sanitary sewer updates, Charlie Martin's team has been in my backyard for now. Seems like since time began and as part of that process, they they were supposed to keep the trees and they were flagged to be kept by us. And then one day the trees were all gone. So even with the city, sometimes contractors could be miscues. Now, the good news is I have new trees planted and actually they're better trees. I've got a nice American elm. There's Prince, Prince Dean, that is actually elm disease. We got a red bud and we've got a sawtooth oak coming. So there'll be better trees than the junk trees that were there. But still, it happens. And I prefer it not to happen on my watch. We've seen some proposals where the people putting in the development are going to operate it as well. What's the plan for operation? Correct. We own and operate all our facilities. Not third party. I need to follow up on that. You operate it, you're going to operate it 20 years? Are you going to sell it to Reed or what are you going to do with it? Typically, it's it starts at 10 years and then kind of see how the structure goes from there. But I mean, we would love to continue to operate it. I mean, we would love to continue to operate it longer term, right, but it's fees for us. Our experience has been if the owner operates it, it's a whole lot better than if he Absolutely. I mean, especially with students. If there's an issue with it today, I'm going to hear about it when it becomes an operation issue because it comes back uphill. Would you explain what you mean by see how the structure goes? Are we talking about what does that mean? Correct. I mean, we could recapitalize this where a new institutional partner could force our hands. We're not saying it's going to deteriorate. No, no, no, yeah. Yeah, so generally on these type of projects, and you know, you can blame Mr. Forrester, the banks and the lenders will only give you a certain term, and so you hope that they're going to renew it and you've got investors. I know a lot of these, I know you hear a lot about private equity in the conversation and, you know, private equity, if you have a pension, here, there's more likely than not, your pension is invested in private equity. Life insurance companies are private equity. And so when the term that they've agreed to do the loan as part of their project, which is essentially the financing mechanism expires, you hope that they will renew it. If not, then you may have to sell it in that term. But it's like any other property in that instance. Well, Brandon, let me take that one step further. If it's student housing, it's going to have more wear and tear than if it doesn't. What's the life of this building as far as depreciation? Well, I mean, depreciation versus what is the actual useful life is a little bit different. My guess is depreciation for tax purposes, what, 39 and a half? I mean, that's just the federal government standard. It has nothing to do with how long the structure. My house has a 39 and a half if I were to make an investment property. This project, like any other property, it could last 100 years or more if it's well maintained. I can take a log cabin and I can keep it going for 200 years if I'm willing to replace the things that need to be replaced. We have lots of houses in my neighborhood that look pristine. We have other ones that people didn't take care of them. They look like they should be torn down. So really, it's all about whether the owner is committed to make the investment and do the repairs timely to make it look nice. As an example, the Lex could probably use a refresh there on South Broadway. But you're going back to my point. If the builder, if the operator, the initial operator keeps the building and with the cash flow that building is going to create, it's pretty attractive to sell because it has tremendous cash flow. Are you all selling, are you all renting this by the bed or by the apartment? It would be by the bedroom. I see. That's even better. So the question becomes, it's not a question of cash flow. It's a question of what you do with the cash. That's correct. And so, I'll let you- Operational budgets are substantial. I mean, you can look at our portfolio. Again, we're managing five, six deals currently. Charlottesville, Florida State, Ohio State, D.C., Texas, A&M. I mean, we've been managing them for years. Every year, we're reinvesting money to maintain them. I mean, there's a turn, what we call it, where we go through. We're repainting, making it look like new again, basically every year. Well, I need to inform you of this. This is just preliminary. These questions will be asked at the- I spent two hours last night getting hounded. No, I mean, I don't want to drag this out. No, those are good questions. Whenever this is heard, it's going to be. That way we get it on the record. Yep. Yeah, if there's anything like that, or like Mr. Owen's comments about the vegetative areas, those are- we're agreeable to those. We don't, you know, I live here, you live here. We want nice products and we, you know, and I know from time to time, not me, but other projects have had where the pictures look really nice and what comes back is a little bit different. You know, I would prefer not to have that client. And so my client is all- my recommendation to my client is stick to what you told them you were going to do and things go a lot easier for you if you want to do a second project in Lexington. Yeah. Well, and this, you know, they're coming into the Lexington, but we're just not picking on you because you're new. We're picking on you because we pick on everybody. Yes. And sometimes it's- and sometimes it's- some of it's lessons learned. We all learn every time we have a new application of, well, we should have probably addressed that and we didn't, so let's make sure we do it. So no, we understand that. We want to be transparent. We want this project to be successful. We did have a neighborhood meeting last night. I would call it not constructive, would be the description. I don't know if we will have any constructive discussions with the neighbors if it goes like it did. I don't think they let me finish one or two sentences the entire night. And they were definitely not in the mood for nuance of housing and planning. And fortunately for me, Daniel was there. And I think I quote, I think it's time for us to hammer the planning staff. And we handed the microphone over and they just pelted Daniel with questions. And so we are open to meeting with them again. I think the gap is just too broad. So unfortunately, we're going to look for your guidance on the comp plan and other things for us to make this the best project we can make for our community. For what it's worth, I went to the Kentucky Theater Saturday night and I got pelted with questions. So they're equal opportunities. Yeah. Let me make one more point here. We're in an environment right now that is becoming anti-UK because of student housing. And that's a cultural situation that we're all having to deal with. You know, when the University of 40,000 people decide they only want to house freshmen and the rest of them got to be pushed out in the community. That's a lot of people absorbing your community. It's going to change a lot of things. So we're looking for the best way to do that. And the developers that are doing these projects, you're going to get the blunt of this. And we understand that. You need to understand this and what you've all done today is very helpful. Yeah. And I've got two points to that. What I've seen, even in my neighborhood, or even in what I call the Bird's neighborhood behind St. Joe Drive, we are seeing a lot more students coming into those areas. Gulfview, at this point, is gone to students. That was a nice working class area. And so part of this, while people don't want to hear it, could be the solution to part of that in that it brings people back to our campus, out of our neighborhoods. I'm not sure if some of the bells could be unrung on where they are, but it may slow them going through our other neighborhoods. And the second point is, last night, I asked everyone, you know, to raise their hand if they were not born in Lexington. And about half the attendants were not born in Lexington that were there. That's fine with me. I was born in Lexington. I'm glad Ms. Wirth is here in our community. Yes, but then when I try to explain, well, that's what growth looks like. It's the people in this room. I guess I was pretty roundly booed at that point for making that observation. But that's part of the community just needs to realize that this isn't in isolation. Growth is going to come whether we want it to or not. And people will come. And I want people to come because it adds to the fabric of our community by having more perspectives and more individuals. But what would help is if the University of Kentucky would communicate that not only to the community, but to us. Because it gets to be a bully mentality or seen as that. And I don't think they mean to do that. I think it's just poor communications. I agree. I wish there was better communications between the city and the university. Unfortunately for me, both of those positions are well above my pay grade to make that happen. But no, I totally agree with you that Lexington and the university are symbiotic. And they need to find a way to live together. And for the university to realize the benefits they bring, but also some of the burdens and to be the solution for some of the burdens. And then for the city to also realize that without UK, this city is not, doesn't exist. For the most part, is it such a big part of our GDP at this point? But the universities can probably exist without the city other than any housing. So it's very, they need to find a way to work together. I will sign that petition, Mr. Penn, whenever you want to put it. But you're missing my point. My point is, is that if the university would say, we made a strategic decision to move all students off campus because we need to use this campus for. Yes. And that's never been articulated. Oh, no, I understand your point. And I agree with you. My point is, I can't make them do that. I wish I could. You wouldn't like to share that long-term plan you've got, would you? Well, actually, it's online. You guys probably reviewed it. The UK master plan is online. I think the broader question has to do with, where do we think student housing should be located? And I'm not sure UK can go out on that limb and say, hey, yeah, that's a neighborhood. We see our students probably living there, and maybe all those houses going away. Like, that's not an acceptable. Correct. Public relations. I'm assuming that, Tracy, you have their master plan. We do have their master plan. And they have, I mean, if you look at it, they've been building what they said they're going to build 10 years ago. So we generally have an idea. Like, for example, the area Samaritan, we have an idea of what they want to do eventually there. It may be five or 10 years. But we have an idea. And if it's not on that master plan, UK is not saying, we're going to build it, more or less. And so student housing, 20,000 student housing units is not on that master plan. I can tell you that right now. Yes, it is not. And I would say no university. I mean, I just shipped my kid to Michigan. So no university has that kind of housing. This isn't a Lexington issue. This is every major university city combination. Ann Arbor just built a dorm this year, and they had not built a single dorm since 1961. Yeah, we at least have new dorms on campus. Can I shift the focus here a little bit? Would you tell us what the rentals going to be for these units? And how many beds, that sort of stuff? Yeah, so we are proposing roughly 750 beds, a mix of studios to four bed, ranging from 1,200 to 1,700. Let's go to, here we go. This is three through six. All the numbering, I mean, the lettering refers to their calculations units. So you can explain if you want. Yeah, so the S is studio. A is a one bed. B is a two bed. C is a three bed. D is a four bed. The plus is just a deep unit. And again, we're renting by the bed. Every unit is bed bath parity. So every bedroom gets a bathroom. Every unit has in-unit laundry, living room, kitchen. Why don't you say it's what the students expect and their parents don't realize what it costs? Oh, we realize. They realize. And they sign off on it. Yeah, my son got a B average last year. He's back at home this year. Yeah, well, he does not have his own bathroom. He's got his own bedroom and he's got a younger brother right next door. So he preferred to be in an apartment. But I told him, you get an A, we'll talk about it. You don't get an A average, then you're going to live with mom and dad. Oh, yes, yes. Unfortunately, I love my wife, but she has ruined my son for some future woman. So with that, are there any additional questions? I just have two comments. I guess it's more something maybe you all talk. So a lot of these renters we see, we don't show the power lines. From what we've been told, KU has not been agreeable to allowing them to be buried. So we've had multiple different developers say KU wouldn't allow it. Just to point that out. And that's the reason High Street is... I can speak to it as well. We have a bigger setback on High Street. Yeah, you can see on High Street, we are set back roughly 20 feet so that we're meeting building code and OSHA requirements. We know that there are overhead utilities along high on our side, as well as the opposite side of Hagerman. These aren't really of concern to us, but these will remain. We're in conversation with KU Utility to clean those up, but they will remain overhead. Again, they're not in the rendering. Just keep them pretty. I don't know the answer as to why. Maybe they have a good reason, but that's just what we've been told. What has been indicated is that at least some of the developers have offered to pay for them to be buried. In addition, but again, that's what we've been told. I've heard developers and the GC is supplemented with additional offers and they still wouldn't agree to it. So it's unique to us. We would prefer to put them underground and typically what we see in other jurisdictions, but we're working around it. And then I will just note that I think there are about 20 homes on Hagerman Corp. 13 of them have been purchased by Core Spaces. I think it's the KKE Entity. It says Core Spaces on the PVA. Oh, it does. Or that's what it reads. Yeah. Anyway. I think it will. I do. I think there is a horizon because at some point there is no more capacity. And so I would say I've talked with some people that are in this space. It's happened with other communities. It goes for two to three years of lots of building and then it gets to a point where the investors say, no, but we don't think the community can absorb. Anymore. So my guess is we have all the ones plus ours. Maybe we'll see one. Maybe we'll see two more. I understand Cardinal over on South Broadway where the Avis is. They've postponed. I think that is part of the okay. It's a race to market. We're behind. We don't think we'll get there in time. Let's move our let's look at a different community. So I think we are close to the end of this particular boom. And to be honest with you, I mean, I know once again, unpopular opinion. I would love to overbuild because then that's more capacity. That's more competition. I know people talk about a lot of times, you know, all I drive around, I see vacancies. That's good. You do not want to live in community with zero vacancies because that lets the landlords charge whatever you want. Vacancies between 90 and 95 for a healthy real estate market is what I've heard. And we don't have that on campus. And so, and if we did have oversupply, I think everything at the bottom would probably everyone at the top would start dropping their rents and they would just trickle down everybody else. Because if you look at Austin, who has just built a ton of that's exactly right. They overbuilt, but the flip side is they've had 19 months or 19 quarters of rent decreases in their market because they have so many options for people. And so, it's part of the balance, you know. Yeah, I would say given the way we work now, I think Lexington has a pretty good office space market downtown. At least there's not a lot of vacancies in what I would consider the class A market. But that's exactly right. People don't run in the office all the time. I'm in the office three days a week now. I share and I let other people use my office on the days I'm not there. Becoming the Brandon hour. Can we hear about your family and your office plans? So, with that being said, the staff recommended approval. We would like you to support that recommendation. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you. I'll see you next month. Okay. So, do we have any public comment? It doesn't look like it. Okay. So, we'll bring it back to committee. All right. Committee. Staff has recommended approval. Do we have a Yes, we're ready for a motion. Turn your mic on. Madam Chair, I move for approval of PLN-MJDP-2660 with the six conditions presented by staff. Second. Okay. The motion has been made in second. All in favor? Okay. We're unanimous. What's next? We do have a waiver for the Griffin Gate Center related to their development plan and the Clarion Hotel. And Jeremy, did you have any updates on that? So, Jeremy, I'm planning staff. We do have a waiver request for PLN-WAV-2621, Griffin Gate Center. It's a request for a waiver of the open space requirement. The applicant has submitted a couple of different plans. We're in the process of evaluating those now. And to determine whether those, whether that waiver is still necessary. And maybe the applicant can give you a little more detail on that. All right. I've got three. I'm not done yet. Good morning, committee. Again, Nathan Billings with Billings Law Firm on behalf of the applicant. We're working through a revised plan. We met with staff after TRC last week. So I think we're probably going to end up withdrawing this waiver as part of the process. I wouldn't spend more time on it today. Thank you. All right. Thank you. All right. Okay, we have anything else to bring to our attention? Yes, we do have a subdivision regulation amendment. So this is oftentimes you see a very brief presentation about text amendments to the zoning ordinance in this committee. And then the zoning committee will do their full review and make recommendations. But when we have land subdivision changes, regulation changes, that's the purview of the subdivision committee. So we don't have a whole lot very often, maybe one every three years when we make changes to the subregs. But now is a time when we do need to make some updates. And Mr. Taylor's here to present that to you. So we do need a recommendation on this item today. All right. Good morning. I am here for Kenzie Gleason, who has been leading both the implementation of the complete streets design manual and the update to subdivision regulation. She is on vacation. So I'm going to try to cover this at a fairly high level. If you have technical questions, Von and David are here because they've helped tremendously over these last two projects to get us to where we are today. So I'm going to go quickly through. If you were at your work session last week, this presentation is almost identical. But we wanted to give you a chance last week to see it, get in front of you and have any thoughts that you might have for us today. Very quickly, just that this subdivision regulation amendment, it implements the complete streets design manual, which is a chapter of the engineering manuals as of its adoption by the council. It governs the geometrics and the construction. It also implements some of the development standards listed in the urban growth master plan. It also covers a number of comprehensive plan goals and objectives related to connectivity. The scope here, all six articles are changed to some degree, some of them very minor. The bulk of these changes are in chapter six. We'll talk about those in a little bit more detail. Largely, these subdivision regulations have not been touched this heavily since they were established. So this is a fairly comprehensive update, especially again to chapter six. But it does, again, update the standards for the complete streets design manual and updates to include the network connectivity and block standards for the urban growth master plan. We also did look through this document for additional opportunities to clean up things related to the House Bill 443 that weren't handled through the zoning ordinance text amendment that you all did previously. So again, in article one, we're largely just updating terminology to match the manual. Again, add waivers for the creation of the block standards, which I'll come back to. And then again, we just otherwise modernized our definitions, again, to be in coordination with the manual. Some cross-reference, small cross-references in article two related to the types of plans that are filed. Same in article three, some street-related details that needed to be updated to match the manual. Four is largely around procedures in terms of the timing of infrastructure. I think the 0809 recession taught us some things about when developers disappear and when neighborhoods don't get complete that we needed to address. So it added some clarity to some of those procedures. And then again, more street details on the major subdivision plans. Article six gets into some of the meatier details and there may just be some things that I can't answer with Kenzie not being here and it may fall in the gaps between David and Vaughn too. So we will do our best to answer some of those. If there's anything outstanding, I'll make note of it and have Kenzie get you answers when she returns ahead of your hearing. This item will be on your, like everything else you have, October 22nd agenda. So you're welcome. So starting off in article six, we're dealing with some of the pedestrian access easements identified in the manual. It establishes the procedure for those off-trail connections. Again, our spacing requirements for pedestrian access into those facilities like greenways and parks, et cetera. We established lot and block standards that match almost identically to the urban growth master plan. And we've put some of those standards through the paces with a peer city that has had them in place for about 13 years and adopted some of their exceptions and provisions that they did sort of in the middle of their 13-year process where they were getting a lot of feedback from the development community that addressed lots of edge cases that they were having dozens of waivers a month. And they're down to less than a handful on the regular because of some of the changes that, again, exceptions they put into these block and perimeter standards. Again, the goal to get good connectivity but not overbuild the network, not build new streets where the gain and return on that is not necessarily worth it. So there's lots of exceptions where the street connectivity and the block perimeters do not have to be met. And they're very well articulated and outlined so that they are established without the need to go to a waiver to this body. Again, we established the street types and the typical cross sections. Again, just pulling those in straight from the Complete Streets Design Manual. It also establishes maximum links for dead-end streets, also known as cul-de-sacs, and then longer cul-de-sacs having pedestrian access to connect them back to a network to keep the blocks walkable as if they were fully connected and not dead-end. It does further enhance and define our sub-street requirements and making sure that we meet for adjacent development to be able to meet the block standards as new development continues on. Again, it talks about the street improvement requirements. Again, we had some redundant specifications. We cleaned those up. Again, intersection spacing. That was a doozy. We spent a good time on that with engineering and traffic engineering. And the joke was if there's a square root in the formula and nobody knows why, we should probably get rid of it. So we're not entirely sure how that was ever used. And we look to, again, a number of other peer cities to greatly simplify intersection spacing, but also to improve our connectivity through that process. Same with driveway access. We clarified and simplified some of the driveway access standards, further clarified multifamily as commercial, and then also removed commercial spacing requirements in the subdivision regulations because they are governed in the zoning ordinance. And we did not need to have conflicting standards, both a subreg to meet and a zoning ordinance regulation to meet. It did establish the traffic calming requirements that are, again, outlined in the manual. Those are your bump outs and your intersections. Those are your mid-block bump outs. Those are places that the things that neighbors and neighborhoods most want to see and need after developments are constructed. So this just outlines the spacing to incorporate those elements. Standard drawings, if they're not in there, are something that traffic engineering, I believe, is working on and trying to get some standard documents for the engineering and design community to have very concrete details on what's expected there. Street trees. I think a change in this ordinance is that it does require street trees on all street trees on all streets, regardless of zone in this text. So that is a change. I don't think we want to hide the ball on that, but that is something that has been long expressed as something that we should be including. And if there's a point of contention there, I think we want to make sure that we verbalize that to the community. And if there's people that want to talk about that issue, that you all have the opportunity to do so before you're hearing or at your hearing. It does, however, it does eliminate some very strict and precise tree spacing requirements that have been problematic when you have driveways and lot lines and things like that, that this clears that process up for making it easier to get the trees shown on the plan based on the site conditions. So the staff is, again, recommending approval of these revised subdivision regulations. Again, there's four connectivity policies that speaks explicitly to this overall effort from Complete Streets related to the comprehensive plan. It does implement four specific design standards for the Urban Growth Master Plan, as well as this is implementation of the council adopted and administration supported Complete Streets policy. There was a follow up from that, a Complete Streets action plan, which identified the need for the manual and the need for the subdivision regulations to be amended. We're just going down the list, checking things off from that action plan, getting them done. And as well as the adopted Vision Zero policy, a number of items covered here are in support of the overall Vision Zero policy. And so, if you have any questions, I will make an attempt to answer them or write them down for Kenzie. This is an easy one. You mentioned a peer city. We worked with Raleigh. We had a great call with some of their traffic staff that implement, you know, not so much the planning staff there. They have a traffic section that fully administers their block perimeter standard requirements and reviews it as part of like their technical review. And they walked us through a number of scenarios because when we went through these regs, we had a number of questions about, well, that sounds great. How do you do it? And went through a number of plans. I think we showed them one or two of ours that we were looking at and said, how would you apply that here? And then they walked us through some of the exceptions that we kind of thought we understood. We want to make sure we heard it from them. And then what the impact of some of those things were. They said it's been a good exercise and give and take that, you know, there's one particular waiver exception that is, you know, they feel like they lose. But, you know, I think the development community feels like there's good avenues to pursue so that they're not building a street through a small development that might strictly get you in compliance with the block standards. But the overall network is not meaningfully improved, not to the point where you would justify building a new street. And I think that's important to have that balance where we're not going to overbuild a network that the city then has to maintain to have a strict adherence to a number. So it gives lots of exceptions in that text. And they expressed that that was, those were very good changes they made about six years ago. I noticed that the, at the back, the street geometrics looks like it's all crossed out. Is that going to be located somewhere else or? Yes. Okay. Yeah, so we do have a table currently in the subregs that lists the street geometrics. And it's very detailed. It is repetitive of what's in the design manuals. So in that particular case, I think the staff's recommendation is that those details remain in the complete streets manual, but that the cross sections will be included within here. The visual piece of that, that shows, okay, this is what a local street is. This is what an avenue is. This is what a boulevard is. And arterial, so that those are shown, which help the design engineers know what to plan for when they do their preliminary final development plans, all that sort of thing. So that's an easy resource, but it'll be, they'll be exactly the same as what's already been adopted in the manual. Okay. Great. Thank you. Any other questions? Do we need to take any action? Mr. Pitt. Let me ask a question first. Ron, are you and David good with this? You all had input and all that? Yeah, we met probably close to 10 or 12 times, I would imagine, with Kenzie and the rest as well. Well, I get to ask it here. I probably wouldn't ask it in the full hearing. So I just- Do you not trust me, Mr. Pitt? Do what? Do you not trust me, Mr. Pitt? No, I just, I'd rather ask it in this setting. I understand, I understand. Okay. You can interpret that, if you want to. All right. I guess we're looking for a motion. I move for approval of SRA 2026-1 amendment to implement UGMP and complete straights manual as recommended by staff. All right, those are the main and second. All those in favor? Aye. We're unanimous. Thank you. Tell Kenzie good work. Okay. All right, let's get some postponed and continued items. I have an update on one of the postponed items under C number two on page four. We don't have anything else, right? As far as- This is the only one that's- Number two, under C, the MJDP 2658 Germond property, the Andover Commons. This is located at 4200 Todd's Road. They- We met with them a couple weeks ago and talked through a lot of the plan and they've made some changes and they submitted a revised staff- or, I'm sorry, revised plan for planning commission next week. And we've started looking at the revised plan but we haven't provided a staff report yet for that. But they postponed it, subdivision committee, I think in August, I believe. So they're going to go back to the planning commission next week. We'll have a fully updated staff report for that once we've gone through the plan. And then Mr. Murphy and Mr. Baird are here if you have any specific questions about this one. But that's kind of where we're at. They also have a number of waivers. So since we met, I think it's September, not August, but- Okay. They went ahead and filed waivers for requests for a number of things and those appear on your agenda today. A waiver for use of an access easement has sold access to a number of lots, mostly townhome lots. And the same, then similar, no, they don't have lot frontage because they're aimed or oriented towards some green space. They're asking for waivers of the cross section dimensions, block length that might be greater than a thousand feet and then connectivity to adjoining parcels. So those are all part of their zone change and development plan request. I will say my understanding is the cross sections they're asking for match complete streets. So they're really kind of ahead of the ball there, but our current standards are slightly different. So they said, well, to cover our basis, we want to just go ahead and ask for the waiver now so that we don't have to make changes to our plan and then change it back. Jeremy, is there anything you would add to that? Was there anything you wanted to point out in the, and this is their first plan, so not the updated plan, but just as a refresher, they have commercial up along Todd's Road, multifamily, and then single family townhouses. It's a mix of residential. So they're showing the town center with retail, then apartments. I believe these are. Yeah, I don't think we have to get the details. Generally, they're asking for B1 and R4 on their property. I don't want you to show a bunch of stuff that they've already changed. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. Where are we on, excuse me, where are we on the white farm? The white farm. Did you have any questions for Mr. Murphy or Mr. Barrett about the Germont property? No, I was talking about the white property. Yeah, I just, I wanted to finish up this one. Finish up this one and then if nobody else. Okay, all right. Then I think we're clear on item number two. Okay, so go ahead, Mr. Payne. Yes, sir. He said thank you. Yeah, thank you. He was saying thank you for not making him come up front. Okay. Okay, so all right. So we're finished with item two. So Mr. Payne, you had a question about item number one. Yeah, I just wondered where we are on that. We still have to do the waiver on the pub station or? Deep. Okay. Jeremy Young Plainstaff. Mr. Payne, the applicant is exploring the possibility of a gravity system on that site. So we haven't heard anything from them in the last week or so. From what I understand, they're still in that process of maybe trying to acquire easements to gravity feed over to the HOA lot near Andover. So we're just waiting for updates on that. Thank you. That's really clay. And then we have a number of other zone changes that are scheduled for later in the month. We have not had any specific changes on the Encore Set Partners property or Berry Crest. The Fitzgerald Fuller property at all is an addition to our PUD 3 development at Turner Commons. And they do have a waiver request with that. We did, and I think a variance request as well, that we did schedule a meeting with them for tomorrow to discuss revisions. It does have to do somewhat with access to, you know, that front corner and how it can interact with the rest of the property. Good morning, committee. Nathan Billings of Billings Law Firm. I represent Darren Turner on this project. So finally, I can get my third case and go back to the office. We are meeting with staff. I think it's 2.30 or 3 tomorrow. I don't know. It's one of the two in the afternoon. We submitted an original plan that is to save and preserve the Stuttgart old gas station building there on Main Street as a restaurant, deli food and beverage. And our initial plan had, there's four access points on Main Street today. And the goal was to remove the two middle ones and keep the main entrance that we're realigning and the far entrance that's at the west end to access the front of Stuttgart's we had to come through. There's a 20 foot buffer along Main Street. And staff had, we found a waiver request for that, but staff had recommended, actually, I think they recommended approval of the development plan, but disapproval of the zone change based on the development plan. So we submitted a revised plan. They got rid of the road and the buffer, but included a, it kept the entrance where it is. We would still have three entrances on Main Street and staff had concerns about that. And so we scheduled a meeting with them to say, let's talk through these things on how they want us to resolve those tensions. We prefer less entrances, but I think we'll, my goal is to, after the meeting tomorrow with the engineers, we can have a site plan and come back to you all. And that may remove the need for the waiver. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Anything else? Yeah. We'll go back to Badger. Yeah. There hasn't been any movement on the two expansionary plans for the 8th and Spitsboro Road. I saw it on the list. I thought maybe they'd found a, because I know they didn't have anybody to develop it. They just put a hold on it. That's a separate. So the, this, the, what you're seeing as the, listed as the Basler property and Walnut Hill Manor, that's the okay gentry plan. So that's the zone change that we've been hearing about currently, not the piece you already approved on Cane Break. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And now we have a review of the plans of the new town break design. I wonder why you failed to sync. So Mr. Pena, Mike Stiller, the new town pike extension project was planned probably in the early 2000s. And they adopted a small area plan. And with that small, after the small area plan, they also, the council adopted a new town pike extension, commercial design and property access standards with an ordinance. I don't have the clicker, but when they did that, they identified things. I guess I could be up front too. Oh, gosh. That's not going to work. But you can go flip pages to the map. When they, when they adopted this access management and design standard ordinance, they did so and made it apply to all the parcels that front along that project. So from the northern end, we have the intersection with main street and the, you know, new town pike, and then it transitions. Instead of naming it new town pike extended, they opted or east, west, north, south, whatever. They opted to rename to Oliver Lewis way. So Oliver Lewis way starts at main street, comes down all the way to Broadway. And then there's a, the Scott street connector that juts off and is going to cross Broadway parallel to the railroad tracks and then come out on south limestone across from the administration building. Yeah. Thank you, Vanna. So this ordinance has been on the book since 2009, but it, we haven't seen a whole lot of development along Oliver Lewis way new development until I would say the last two or three years. It was not really on the staff's radar. It's not adopted as part of the zoning ordinance. It's not listed on the council's code of ordinance page either. So it wasn't something that our recent student housing developers found in their due diligence, but it did come to our attention recently that these projects that front onto Oliver Lewis or in some cases south Broadway do need to adhere to the design standards found in this document. Um, in one case we have a project that's happening on south Broadway across from the Lex. That particular group has opted to meet all of the standards. They, they would rather do that than go through the process of asking for waivers from the commissioner and the council. Our other project, um, has opted to ask for waivers. So, um, the project that's moving forward, you won't really hear about because they're going to meet the standards. The other project will be on your agenda for next week. And that is the landmark development group. And they, their project is located where it fronts on Oliver Lewis way, as well as south Broadway and has chair Avenue and Hayman. So it's very close to the railroad, um, and, and really kind of south of, um, the Davis neighborhood now. So those, that request will be in front of you next week. They submitted a detailed evaluation and kind of justification for their, their request. So we'll present that to the commission and have a staff recommendation. You will have to make a recommendation to the council. So any waiver does have to be heard by the council. And they are aware of that and being very, very kind with us as we move through the process to keep everybody on track. So could I ask David a question? David, when they designed the Newtown Pike quarter and they got to that bridge, it goes from three lanes into two or four lanes into three, right there where you turn on circle four. What? I'm sorry. Where you turn on circle four. Oh, okay. The Newtown Pike. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. I was thinking four lanes. Okay. Yeah. Yes. New circle road. Those of us that live out there that drive that two or three times a day, they have kept widening and widening and widening to try to make that work. And they're, they're widened to where, right where it goes into two lanes. So are they going to relocate or what's going to happen there? You can't just run in. You can't just put three into two. You're talking about, you're talking about up by the, up by new circle, right? Yes. Yeah. I mean, they'll, it'll, it'll, they effectively, one of the lanes will just dead end to go on to new circle. Yeah. The right most lane will, but it won't be a three lane anymore. It won't be a three lane. It'll be a right only onto the ramp. That's where the, that's where all the trucks turn. Yes. So is it going, all those trucks are coming out of a two lane into one lane to go on to that. It's backing up now. I can't imagine what it's going to do when they take those barriers down. It'll be, yeah. I don't know. Yeah. That's something. Did they design the bridge wrong or what happened? I don't know. That's the state job, so. I know. I know, but I'm telling you, you don't want to get caught between two big trucks. I can believe it. Yeah. Okay. I just want to know because I see it every day. Yeah. So we will keep this on the counter so we can refer to it frequently as more projects come in along that corridor. Obviously, there's a lot of development happening around Lexington, so we want to make sure that we adhere to this for our projects. So I think the Children's Museum is supposed to go where, have they submitted a proposal yet or? No, they have not. My understanding is the Lexington Children's Museum has received some funding from the state and maybe local government and done fundraising, and they hope to move to a site within the Davis neighborhood, Davis Inn neighborhood there. But they do need a zone change to do that, so they've been in communication with the council to ask them to initiate a zone change. So we have not received that yet. They're on break right now, and I anticipate that it might occur in the next month when they come back from break. But yes, this would apply to the property that we've spoken to them about as well. Did the year-round farmer's market fall through? You know, I haven't heard anything about that in terms of the Newtown Pike area here. I was wondering because, you know, they're building more apartments. It was a lot of work to do it, and that's a great location if you could do it. Yes, Mike, you have a question? About this project, I guess. Okay. Okay, Mr. Owens. Back to Oliver Lewis Wade. And I appreciate the information. I heard something where like there's a plan corner of South Broadway, Oliver Lewis chair, et cetera, et cetera, that we're going to hear next week. I guess my question is why haven't we seen it or heard it today or sometime prior? Well, the plan itself went to the technical committee and was approved already. The final development plan for that project. This is their proposal then to ask for waivers. So, generally, we let you know about the waivers at the subdivision committee, and then we present them in full at the commission meeting. You know, Mr. Woodall and Mr. Helani are here too for that project if you want to hear anything from them. Okay, Commissioner Collins, I can show you something. I was just curious. And did you want Daniel to go through all of them? Yeah, no, I was just curious as to why we hadn't heard something. Just the background. The final development plan MILAR for this project and the project across the street, which is a smaller property, was actually on, I believe, Mr. Duncan's desk or close to it to be signed when the existence of this ordinance was discovered. As Tracy said, it's not in the zoning ordinance. It's not in the code of ordinance. I think Mr. Murphy's project on the credit unit was, from what I've been able to find out back during COVID, was the last time it was applied. Since then, the fact is it's an anomaly. We have a new comprehensive plan. We have multi-family design standards, which is completely inconsistent with. And actually, the ordinance was passed before Oliver Lewis, or the Newtown Pike extension, was actually constructed. And now you got like a 50-foot right-of-way at the corner of Broadway and Oliver Lewis because that was railroad bed and they just took the whole thing. And if you'll recall, I mean, when our plan was approved, there were some comments made, I think by Commissioner Mickler, about the fact that there was no street activation really on that Oliver Lewis side. Well, it was because we couldn't open, we couldn't have an entrance, you know, in a public right-of-way. There wasn't anything we could do about it. So, what you're going to see, what we're bringing to you is, because of the characteristics of our particular site, drainage, the accommodation we've made for Scott Street extension, which, you know, the city, the state, whoever doesn't even own our property yet, but we've tried to make, we tried to make, well, we did make accommodation for that. We're trying to meet as many of the tenants of the ordinance as we can, and then what we can't, we've asked for waivers. But frankly, the council needs to either, they're under a duty by law, it's crazy what happens when you look back at the law when things like this happen, but they're supposed to review their ordinances every five years to determine if there are ordinances that are not consistent with one another. Well, this one's clearly inconsistent with what we got, what you all are enforcing right now, and what we went through the process with, with staff. It makes no sense, but that's another process. So, we're just trying to meet it the best we can, and then, you know, so we'll bring that to you next week. But, and I, while I'm up here, I just can't resist the bulldozer issue. Okay, so. I mean, Brandon was up here for 45 minutes. They don't, they don't go, they don't go looking for trees. All right. So, they go where they're, they go where they're told. It takes more fuel and time to push a tree over and all this other stuff. But what happens is, and Vaughn may remember, you remember a fellow by the name of Albert Wellings that was a longtime city inspector? Okay, there you go. Well, when I was in college, my father put me on a job, and he said, there's going to be a gentleman come out here by the name of Albert Wellings. He was an inspector for the city, and he said, you just, you'll be fine, just say yes, sir, and no, sir. Well, the first time I met Mr. Wellings, you know, it was, why are you here? You look awful young, all this stuff. And then it got around to, if you'll listen to me, I'll teach you how to build a road. Well, learned a lot that summer from Mr. Wellings. Went to his funeral, actually. Passed away a few years ago, but in any event, he had a saying, you know, that right there is good for growing tomatoes. It's not worth a damn for building a street. So, and what he was talking about was clay versus topsoil and everything else. So, there can't be any encroachments into the roadbed. So, when the fella on top of the bulldozer, and now we've got female operators and our family's company, but, and they see that, it has to come out. Because you have to, this is where the city's road building requirements and the state road building requirements come in. They all go through a compaction test, whether it's private or public, and we have to meet that. And if you have any foreign material in the roadbed, it won't. So, that's where the legality comes in. So, about all you could do to protect this, as somebody mentioned, the orange construction fence, it would just have to be wider, and the person, the guy on top of the bulldozer, Allen Company, who else? Allen Company's a great company. Represented them for years. They're going to call the foreman and go, what do I do? You know, they don't typically take matters into their own hands unless they've been told to do it. So, there's that. And the same thing, I learned in the sewer question, as Brandon brought up, the hard way, myself. During COVID, you know, we had the, everything's, the whole house has got COVID and everything's upside down anyway. Everyone's home. And we go downstairs and there's a foot full of whatever floating and it's just terrible. Well, when the city comes out there, if there is a tree or grove of trees that is where the roots have come from that's near their manhole, you've got to get somebody else to do it. Thank goodness, I happen to know somebody in that business, and my dad was alive at the time, bless his heart, and he showed up and we've solved the problem. But that's the other issue. That's why Mr. Martin and his crews, when they go to replace sewer lines, if there's trees in the way, they're taking them out because that's the law. So, anyhow, that's just my two cents on that part. So, we'll be back next week on the waiver. We're, once again, my clients were into the construction drawing phase of their particular project. So, you know, they're anxious to get moving on it and we're going to do the best we can to comply with something that doesn't make sense anymore, but it is what it is. Staff does the best they can. We were in good company, not trying to mess. Okay. Right. Mr. Gross ran into it, too. All right. Okay, well, thank you for that explanation on building streets. Okay. All right. This has been a very, very enlightening day. All right. Okay. I think that is it from the staff. Is that it? Or did you have, Daniel, have something? I can real real quick. Okay. Good morning, everyone. I also have some personal anecdotes to share now. Just just as a real quick reminder, we talked about this just at the last work session, but accompanying the complete streets subdivision regulation update, we also have the UGMP implementation ZOTA. We haven't made any changes to the text since it was sent out to you all. So, you already have a copy of that, but we've sent out the staff report for it. So, if there are any lingering questions, happy to hear them. Otherwise, I will let everyone be free for their morning. All right. Thank you. All right. With that, I think we're adjourned. I keep thinking any minute you'll be coming home, honey. I ain't seen nothing of you in a month, but some days tell me how long gone are you gonna be. All you said was you had to get going. Oh, but baby, I wouldn't mind knowing just how long gone are you gonna be. How am I supposed to make any plans when I still don't even understand if you're ever gonna come back home to me. Tell me please, how long gone are you gonna be. Baby, I didn't pay enough attention, but I do believe you forgot to mention just how long gone are you gonna be. The phone ain't ringing, cause you ain't calling. Tell me, how long gone are you gonna be? Yeah, how am I supposed to make any plans When I still don't even understand If you're ever gonna come back home to me Tell me please, how long gone are you gonna be? Yeah, how am I supposed to make any plans When I still don't even understand If you're ever gonna come back home to me Tell me please, how long gone are you gonna be? Tell me, how long gone are you gonna be? Tell me, how long gone are you gonna be? Tell me, how long gone are you gonna be? This ain't a song for the broken hearted A silent prayer for a faith departed I ain't gonna be just a face in the crowd You're gonna hear my voice when I shout it out loud It's my life, it's now or never I ain't gonna live forever I just wanna live when I'm alive It's my life, my heart is like an open highway I think I should've did it my way I just wanna live when I'm alive It's my life This is for the ones who stood their ground For Tommy and Gina, milked back down Tomorrow's getting harder, make no mistake Love can't even help you, gotta make your own breaks It's my life, it's now or never I ain't gonna live forever I just wanna live when I'm alive It's my life, my heart is like an open highway I think I should've did it my way I just wanna live when I'm alive It's my life Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh Never stand tall in a coldly-lite dorm And don't break with a dark background It's my life, it's now or never Cos I ain't gonna live forever I just wanna live my life It's my life My heart is like an open highway My mind can set a deal in my way I just wanna live my life It's my life Well, it's now or never I ain't gonna live forever I just wanna live my life It's my life My heart is like an open highway My mind can set a deal in my way I just wanna live my life It's my life Aruba, Jamaica, ooh, I wanna take ya Bermuda, Bahama, come on, pretty mama Key Largo, Montego, baby, why don't we go Jamaica off the Florida Keys There's a place called Kokomo That's where you wanna go To get away from it all Bodies in the sand Tropical kid melting in your hand We'll be falling in love To the rhythm of a steel drum band Down in Kokomo Aruba, Jamaica, ooh, I wanna take ya Bermuda, Bahama, come on, pretty mama Key Largo, Montego, baby, why don't we go Down in Kokomo We'll get there fast and then we'll take it slow That's where we wanna go Way down in Kokomo Martinique, that Montserrat mystique We'll put out to sea And we'll perfect our chemistry And by and by we'll defy A little bit of gravity Afternoon delight Cocktails and warm midnights That dreamy look in your eye Give me a tropical contact high Way down in Kokomo Aruba, Jamaica, ooh, I wanna take ya Bermuda, Bahama, come on, pretty mama Key Largo, Montego, baby, why don't we go Way down in Kokomo We'll get there fast and then we'll take it slow That's where we wanna go Way down in Kokomo Prince, I wanna catch a glimpse Everybody knows A little place like Kokomo Now if you wanna go Then get away from the law Go down to Kokomo Aruba, Jamaica, ooh, I wanna take ya Bermuda, Bahama, come on, pretty mama Key Largo, Montego, baby, why don't we go Way down in Kokomo We'll get there fast and then we'll take it slow That's where we wanna go Way down in Kokomo Aruba, Jamaica, ooh, I wanna take ya Bermuda, Bahama, come on, pretty mama Key Largo, Montego, baby, why don't we go Come stop your crying, it will be all right Just take my hand, hold it tight I will protect you from all around I will be here, don't you cry For one so small, you seem so strong My arms will hold you, keep you safe and warm This bond between us can't be broken I will be here, don't you cry Cause you'll be in my heart Yes, you'll be in my heart From this day on, now and forevermore You'll be in my heart No matter what they say You'll be here in my heart, always Why can't they understand the way we feel They just don't trust what they can't explain I know we're different, but deep inside us We're not that different at all You'll be in my heart Yes, you'll be in my heart From this day on, now and forevermore Don't listen to them, cause what do they know We need each other to have to hold They'll see in time, I know When destiny calls you, you must be strong I may not be with you, but you've got to hold on They'll see in time, I know We'll show them together, cause you'll be in my heart Believe me, you'll be in my heart You'll be there from this day on, now and forevermore You'll be in my heart You'll be here in my heart No matter what they say I'll be with you You'll be here in my heart I'll be there always Always I'll be with you I'll be there for you always Always and always Just look over your shoulder Just look over your shoulder Just look over your shoulder I'll be there always There was a time when I was so broken hearted Love wasn't much of a friend of mine The tables have turned, yeah One calls me and then wears that party That kind of love was the killing kind So listen All I want is someone I can't resist I know all I need to know Right now is I need you Yeah I've never met a girl who makes me feel the way that you do You're all right Whenever I'm asked who makes my dreams real I say that you do You're out of sight So be kind, be fun Look out baby, cause here I come And I'm bringing you a love that's true So get ready, so get ready I'm gonna try to make you love me too So get ready, so get ready Cause here I come Get ready, cause here I come I'm on my way Get ready, cause here I come If you wanna play hide and seek with love Let me remind you It's all right But the loving you're gonna miss And the time it takes to find you It's out of sight So be kind, be fun Look out baby, cause here I come And I'm bringing you a love that's true So get ready, so get ready I'm gonna try to make you love me too So get ready, so get ready Cause here I come Get ready, cause here I come I'm on my way Get ready, cause here I come Get ready All my friends should want you to understand me Be all right I hope I get to you before they do The way I plan it Be out of sight So tiddly-dee, tiddly-dum Look out baby, cause here I come And I'm bringing you a love that's true So get ready, so get ready I'm gonna try to make you love me too So get ready, so get ready Cause here I come Get ready, cause here I come I'm on my way Get ready, cause here I come Get ready, cause here I come Saturday night is the loneliest night in the week Cause that's the night that my sweetie and I used to dance cheek to cheek I don't mind Sunday night at all Cause that's the night friends come to call And Monday to Friday go fast And another week is past Saturday night is the loneliest night in the week I sing the song that I sang for the memories I usually seek Until I hear you at the door Until you're in my arms once more Saturday night is the loneliest night of the week Saturday night is the loneliest night of the week Saturday night is the loneliest night of the week Saturday night is the loneliest night of the week Saturday night is the loneliest night of the week I sing the song that I sang for the memories I usually see Until I hear you at that door Until you're in my arms once more Saturday night is the loneliest night of the week Until I hear you at the door Until you're in my arms once more Saturday night is the loneliest night of the week You know I can't be found Sitting home all alone If you can't call around At least please telephone Don't be cruel To who heart is true Baby if I made you mad For something I might have said Please don't forget my past The future looks bright ahead Don't be cruel To who heart is true I don't want no other love Baby it's just you I'm thinking of Don't stop thinking of me Don't make me feel this way Come on over here and love me You know what I want you to say Don't be cruel To who heart is true Why should we be apart I really love you baby Cross my heart Let's walk up to the preacher And let's say hi to him Then you'll know you'll have me And I know that I'll have you Don't be cruel To who heart is true I don't want no other love Baby it's just you I'm thinking of Don't be cruel To who heart is true Don't be cruel To who heart is true I don't want no other love Baby it's just you I'm thinking of She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah You think you've lost your love When I saw her yesterday It's you she's thinking of And she told me what to say She said she loves you And you know that can't be bad Yeah she loves you And you know you should be glad She said you hurt her so She almost lost her mind But now she says she knows You're not the hurting kind She said she loves you And you know that can't be bad Yeah she loves you And you know you should be glad She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah With a love like that You know you should be glad You know it's up to you I think it's only fair Why does her to do Apologize to her Because she loves you And you know that can't be bad She loves you And you know you should be glad She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah With a love like that You know you should be glad With a love like that You know you should be glad With a love like that You know you should be glad Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Well, our hearts beat like thunder I don't know why they don't explode You got your hands in my back pockets And Sam Cooke singing on the radio You say that I'm the boy Who can make it all come true Well, I'm telling you that I don't know If I know what to do You say that's all right, hold tight Well, I don't even know if I'm doing this right Well, all right, hold tight We could stay out all day We could run around all night Well, all night, all night Well, it's time to go home And I ain't even done with the night Well, I don't know no good come-ons And I don't know no cool lines I feel the heat of your frustration I know it's burning you up deep down inside You say that I'm the boy Who can make it all come true Well, I'm telling you that I don't know If I know what to do You say that's all right, hold tight Well, I don't even know if I'm doing this right Well, all right, hold tight We could stay out all day We could run around all night Well, all night, all night Well, all night, all night Well, it's time to go home And I ain't even done with the night Ain't even done with the night Hold tight Hold tight We'll be there to share their work that they're doing in the community And we want you to join a board of commission. So please join us We will have food, games and lots of fun for the entire family Help us say goodbye to summer and learn how you can get involved with boards and commissions Come join us at STEM Academy, that's where we are right now On Georgetown road, Monday, September 14th from 4-6pm for the boards and commissions fair See you there Music I'm Tom Evlin, the third district council member and an avid cyclist I ride mostly for fun and exercise On country roads, bike paths like the Legacy and Town Branch trails and around town An increasing number of people in Lexington commute to work on bicycles and use them as a major form of transportation And I'm Dave Savigne, I'm the tenth district council member and I'm also an avid cyclist In addition to bike trails, Lexington has added street bike lanes on many of the major roads But unfortunately, most of these bike lanes are not protected from traffic Mainly because our major roads are old and narrow Lexington has designated bike lanes on such major streets as Main Street, Euclid Avenue and corridors around the University of Kentucky campus They also are on a few busy suburban streets such as Shenowee Road and Wellington Way It's important to know the difference between designated bike lanes and other lines on the road like lane narrowing lines A designated bike lane will have an image of a person on a bike on the pavement Sometimes the entire bike lane will be painted bright green Lane narrowing lines are white lines on the edges of car lanes but they don't include the image of a cyclist Cyclists may ride in these lanes, but that's not their main purpose Some streets have what are called Sherrill lanes There is no designated bike lane, but cyclists may take up the whole vehicular lane if necessary A Sherrill street includes the cyclist image in the center of the lane with stripes that indicate the cyclist may ride there Cars are a big safety issue for cyclists, especially when they are parked in bike lanes It's fine for vehicles to park on the sides of the streets with narrowing lanes if there's enough space They can also park on many Sherrill streets but obstructions in a designated bike lane mean a cyclist must suddenly divert into traffic to avoid a collision with a parked car To make things safer, Council Member Evelyn and I worked on a bike lane ordinance that prohibits vehicles from stopping or parking in a designated bike lane with some exceptions Keeping vehicles out of bike lanes is safer for cyclists It's also safer for drivers because they don't have to worry that a cyclist might suddenly have to veer into their lane Because certain vehicles need curb access this new ordinance includes some exceptions for police and emergency vehicles and for buses, for rideshare vehicles, and for delivery trucks with a 10-minute limit Once this ordinance becomes law, there will be a 30-day warning period After that, violators can be cited, and it will cost them $50 Lex Park will do much of the enforcement That's because Lex Park's coverage area around downtown is where we have our most crowded streets and bike lanes and the most frequent obstructions in bike lanes Lex Park operates Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. to 7 p.m. Outside of Lex Park's area, and after hours citations may be issued by Lexington police or traffic safety officers while on patrol or in response to complaints On the University of Kentucky's campus U.K. Transportation and U.K. Police will be in charge of enforcement To keep everybody safe, you can report whenever you see someone parked in a bike lane and especially if they are there for more than 10 minutes If it's downtown, reach out to Lex Park In residential areas, dial 3-1-1 In after hours, call the Lexington Police Department's non-emergency number Whether you drive, bike, or walk to get around Lexington we want everyone to be safe We think this new ordinance will help Well good afternoon, this is Councilmember Morton representing the 1st District and I'm here with Tim Vaughn with Kentucky 811. And we're here to talk about 811 dig and the process to take before digging. Yeah, summertime, everybody's doing home projects, digging is involved with a lot of those. We certainly want those to go safely and there's a service that we provide statewide, it's called 811. You call or go on to our website, Kentucky811.org and you request a utility locate and what we do is notify the utilities in the area and they respond and they put paint down on the ground to mark where the utilities are so that when you're using that shovel or using whatever tool, you don't hit that utility line. Right, right. So how about you just tell us about the importance of that, why that's needed. Wow, I mean there could be penalties for violating the law because it is the law that you have to do, that you call 811. In addition to that, if you cause a service problem, a service interruption, then you've got a needless interruption to, let's say you cut the fiber that's feeding your internet and your television, your service is out. Or injuries, someone could get injured, the cost of having to repair what you damage. And here's the key, calling 811 is free, it's a free service, so trading free for something that could cost you a lot. There it goes, there it goes. So I know there's some misconceptions out there regarding, you know, if private property owners should do it or if it's just for contractors. Can you talk a little bit about the misconceptions? Sure. That's a good point. Most people think that this is geared just for the large contractors doing the big construction job. Nothing could be further from the truth. For instance, let's say that on a Saturday morning project you're replacing your mailbox. It's about a foot off the edge of the road. Guess what else is about a foot off the edge of the road? This is a damaged gas line where someone got into it with a backhoe tooth. And if you've got this located, when you're digging that foot off the edge of the road, then you know it's down there, so you dig differently. And you use hand tools very carefully. And what could that lead to? Gas, water? Well, this is a plastic gas line. Most gas lines are plastic nowadays throughout pretty much the whole state. You've got an escape of gas, so now you've got a response that needs to take place from emergency responders. The fire department's got to roll out on a gas job. Columbia Gas, who's very concerned about the safety, so they spend a lot of time and effort and money promoting safety around their facilities. But they've got to respond, and now their workers are in jeopardy and working around blowing gas. And no one wants blowing gas. And just with one call, 8-1-1, and maybe a couple minutes of a conversation, you don't hit that gas line, huh? That's right. And it's not just gas. It's water, electric, fiber, sewer, all the utilities that you have at your property. Can you tell us a little bit about the color code system and what that is? Sure. So there is an international color system that's used by the utilities to locate their facilities. It's funny that gas pipe is yellow because that's their color that they're going to mark it with. That's by design. That's not anything, but it's planned that way. Blue is for water. And you go to our website, and you can download a file that shows you what all the colors mean. Everybody's probably driven down the road in an intersection to see paint marked on the street. That's what that is. That's where someone is doing a project, or have done a project, and they've had the utility lines marked with the different colors to indicate what different utilities are below the ground. I'm big for spreading information, and this right here is actually a great tool to spread information. But what other sources or resources with information could folks use? Sure. Our website. We just launched a new website last week, as a matter of fact. It's full of training videos, full of information. Just a ton of stuff that's there. It's Kentucky811.org, and that's where you can actually go to request the utility locate. You don't have to call on the phone anymore. You go straight to the website and do it. Kentucky811.org. And one last thing I'm going to tell the folks out there. Always call before you dig. Always go online and notify 811. It's the smart thing to do, and it could save your life. Well, you've got a cool little flag in your hand right there, and I know that there's also some misconceptions with those flags. Can you tell me a little about those and the importance of keeping those in place, and what they actually mean? Sure. So, as Tim mentioned, sometimes when we get a call to locate our lines, we may use paint. But in some cases, we may use little flags like this. And so it's very, very important that you not remove those flags if you do see them in your yard. When someone calls to request a line be located, that locate ticket is good for 21 days. So after that period, then the excavator, if they haven't excavated yet, would have to call in another locate to have that done again. But again, that's another reason why, just because you see them out there and you think, oh, wow, that flag's been out there for a week, it's still good. Leave it alone. And another thing, too, is that just because you see a yellow flag that says Columbia Gas on it, that doesn't necessarily mean it's a Columbia Gas project. It may be a city project, it may be a water project, something like that. But it doesn't necessarily mean that it is a Columbia Gas project. Indeed. So how do they find out if it's not a Columbia Gas project, or if they just want to know what project it is? How can they figure that out? So, Kentucky811.org, you can go on there and do a ticket search and put in the address of where you saw those flags, and it should be able to show you exactly what company requested those utilities be marked. Yes, ma'am. And you say do not remove the flag, huh? Right. You leave those flags right there, yeah. Yes, indeed. And can you just, I guess, talk a little about the importance of not removing the flag and what that might entail if they do remove the flag? Right. So, yeah, if you remove those flags, those are very, very important for whoever is going to be doing the excavation in that area. So if they don't have those guides to go by, it's very easy for them to then hit one of the underground utility lines, be it a gas line or an electric or water, whatever. So, it's very important to leave those in place because they're there for a very good reason. And that, assuming that they hit that, that could directly have a direct impact on those surrounding communities and those neighbors that the reason the flag is there, I guess. That's right. That's right. It's just to keep everybody safe. If for any reason at any time you smell gas, you smell natural gas, please call Columbia Gas, the emergency line, which is 800-432-9515 and report that. We will come out 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year and investigate that odor. It's all about safety. Don't hesitate to call. Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. So, if you see any flags in the ground or if you see paint marked on the ground and you want to, you just are curious about what's going to be, what's taking place there or if they're going to dig there, you can go to KY-811 to get more information. And always remember, if you do happen to hit a gas line or hit a line when digging, please call 911. Don't take it into your own hands. Call 911 and make sure the appropriate personnel responds to the scene. So, just remember, before you dig, call 811. That's the important piece. I think I'm in love I think I'm in love And my love's looking up I think I'm in love And I can't get enough I think I'm in love It's gonna be love It's gonna be love I think I'm in love It's gonna be love And my love's looking up I think I'm in love It's gonna be love And my love's looking up I think I'm in love I think I'm in love I know it's late I know you're weary I know your plans Don't include me Still here we are Longing for shelter From all that we see Why should we worry No one will care Look at the stars So far away We've got to know Who needs tomorrow We've got tonight Why don't you stay Deep in my soul I've been so low All of my hope Fading away I've longed for more Like everyone else does I know I'll keep searching Even after today So there it is girl I've said it all the time And here we are again What do you say We've got to know Who needs tomorrow We've got tonight baby Why don't you stay I know it's late I know you're weary I know your plans Don't include me Still here we are Both of us lonely Both of us lonely We've got tonight Who needs tomorrow Yes Let's find a way Turn out the light Come take my hand now We've got tonight baby Why don't you stay We've got tonight Who needs tomorrow Let's make it last Let's find a way Turn out the light Come take my hand now We've got tonight baby Why don't you stay We've got tonight Who needs tomorrow Let's make it last Let's find a way Turn out the light Come take my hand now We've got tonight baby Oh Oh Why don't you stay Why don't you stay Pretty little angel Lie Pretty little angel Lie Pretty little angel Pretty little pretty little Pretty little angel Angel eyes Angel eyes I really look for Angel eyes I'll never let you go Because I love you My darling angel eyes Angel eyes You are so good to me And when I'm in your arms It feels so heavenly You know I love you My darling angel eyes I know you are sent from heaven above To fill my life with your wonderful love I know we'll be happy for eternity Cause now that our love is really real Angel eyes I really love you so Angel eyes I'll never let you go Because I love you My darling angel eyes Pretty little angel eyes Pretty little angel eyes Pretty little angel Pretty little angel Pretty little, pretty little, pretty little Angel eyes I really love you so Angel eyes I'll never let you go Because I love you My darling angel eyes Pretty, pretty little angel eyes Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh Riding along in my automobile My baby beside me at the wheel I stole a kiss at the turn of a mile My curiosity running wild Cruising and playing the radio With no particular place to go Riding along in my automobile I was anxious to tell her the way I feel So I told her softly and sincere And she leaned and whispered in my ear Cuddling more and driving slow With no particular place to go No particular place to go So we parked way out on the Kokomo The night was young and the moon was gold So we both decided to take a stroll Can you imagine the way I felt I couldn't unfasten her safety belt Riding along in my Calaboose Still trying to get her belt to loose All the way home I held a grudge For the safety belt that wouldn't budge Cruising and playing the radio With no particular place to go ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ Hey girl, what you doing down there? Dancing alone every night while I live right above you I can hear your music playing I can feel your body swaying One floor below me, you don't even know me, I love you Oh my darling, knock three times on the ceiling if you want me Twice on the pipe if the answer is no Oh my sweetness, means you'll meet me in the hallway Twice on the pipe means you ain't gonna show If you look out your window tonight Pulling the string with the note that's attached to my heart Read how many times I saw you How in my silence I adored you And only in my dreams did that wall between us come apart Oh my darling, knock three times on the ceiling if you want me Twice on the pipe if the answer is no Oh my sweetness, means you'll meet me in the hallway Twice on the pipe means you ain't gonna show Oh, I can hear the music playing I can feel your body swaying One floor below me, you don't even know me, I love you Oh my darling, knock three times on the ceiling if you want me Twice on the pipe if the answer is no Oh my sweetness, means you'll meet me in the hallway Twice on the pipe means you ain't gonna show I know your pain, are no match for me baby You like making it rough on me don't you My, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my Back to the shack, high, high, yeah Ain't nothing suits me better than that It's time to start creating Got to learn to be the boss And I can't keep from laughing at it all I'm going all the way Simulating, gotta love somebody Don't care how far you get Like a shot to the heart, I've got news for you I may not look so smart, but I'm nobody's fool Oh no, that's enough for me baby You're taking it slow It's too much for me to analyze Still alright Heading into the rhythm of the summer light Winter wild and Saturday Blow with me tonight It's time to love all you cowboys All right I'm going all the way Simulating, gotta love somebody Don't care how far you take You can turn up the heat, but I'm playing it cool I know it's hard but for me, I ain't nobody's fool I'm going all the way Simulating, gotta love somebody Don't care how far you take You might think that I'm not going to school on you Baby, like it or not, I ain't nobody's fool My illumination May come with some surprise You may try to deny it You'll amaze when the crowd slaps you in the face Leaves you dumbfounded there in his way I'm going all the way Simulating, gotta love somebody Don't care how far you take Like a shot to the heart I've got news for you Baby, I'm not so smart But I'm nobody's fool I'm going all the way Simulating, gotta love somebody Don't care how far you take You might think that I'm not going to school on you Baby, like it or not, I ain't nobody's fool I'm going all the way Boat Race Boat Race Boys in the band ordered boat race Visitors scored on the home rank Everything seems to be wrong Maybe Newspaper mentioned cheap airfare I gotta fly to St. somewhere I'm close to bodily harm Twenty degrees and the hockey game's on Nobody cares they're waiting for God's screaming Boat Race Something to keep them all warm This morning I shot six holes in my freezer I think I got cabin fever Somebody sound the alarm I'd like to go where the pace of life's slow Could you meet me somewhere, Mr. Scott? Any old place here on earth or in space You pick the century and I'll pick the spot Oh, I know, I know I should be leaving this planet I got a verse but can't rhyme it I gotta go where it's warm Boat Race Wintress, I need two more boat trains And I'm heading south for my grain train I gotta go where it's warm I gotta go where it's warm I gotta go where it's warm I gotta go where there ain't any snow Where there ain't any road Where there's not been six or more I gotta go where it's warm It don't matter to me If you really feel that You need some time to be free Time to go out searching for yourself Hope you can find Time to go to find It don't matter to me If you take up with someone Who's better than me Cause your happiness is all I want For you to find Your peace of mind A lot of people have an ego hang up Cause they wanna be the only one How many came before it really doesn't matter Just as long as you're the last Everybody moving on and trying to find out What's been missing in the past It don't matter to me If you're searching brings you Back together with me Cause there'll always be an empty room Waiting for you An open heart waiting for you Time is on my side Cause it don't matter to me It don't matter to me It don't matter to me It don't matter to me It don't matter to me It don't matter to me Cause there'll always be an empty room Waiting for you An open heart waiting for you Time is on my side Cause it don't matter to me It don't matter to me My heart is filled With so much love and I need Someone I can call my own Love, that's what everyone's dreaming of I hold this feeling oh so strong Life is too short to live alone Without someone to call my own I will care for you You will care for me Our love will live forever Shower me with your love Shower me with the love that I long for Shower me with your love Shower me with the love I've been waiting for I close my eyes And pray all my wishes come true Every night I go to sleep Until you're mine I'll wait for you endlessly Can't you see Fairy tales they do Sometimes come true If you believe it Could happen to you Like the stars that shine Way up in the sky Our love will live forever Shower me with your love Shower me with the love that I long for Shower me with your love Shower me with the love I've been waiting for Like the stars that shine Way up in the sky Our love will live forever Live forever Shower me with your love Shower me with the love that I long for Shower me with your love Shower me with the love I've been waiting for Shower me with your love Shower me with the love I've been waiting for Shower me with your love Heart in my mouth, thoughts in my head Mercury rising into the red The smell of the skin can light up all the fires in me Hungry to touch, eager to please Out of control and I hand you the keys In the night I am burning to make love to you But don't try to tell me you think it's all physical It goes much deeper than that You ought to know it's an affair of the heart It's an affair of the heart It's an affair of the heart Have a little blind faith, believe it's an affair of the heart We make love, it's a passionate thing Your shuddering shakes sink the teeth in my skin I almost believe you were made to be played by my hand You make love, it's an affair of the heart It's an affair of the heart You were made to be played by my hand And you've got the power, it amazes me still How you play my emotions with constant skill I don't have to look any further than into your eyes So don't try to tell me you think it's just physical It goes way deeper than that You better know it's an affair of the heart It's an affair of the heart It's an affair of the heart Have a little blind faith, believe it's an affair of the heart I'm sure I'll never touch you Until I make you Hey! Don't try to tell me you think it's all physical It goes much deeper than that You ought to know it's an affair of the heart It's an affair of the heart It's an affair of the heart It's an affair of the heart You gotta know it's an affair of the heart It's an affair of the heart You gotta know it's an affair of the heart It's an affair of the heart Baby, it's an affair of the heart It's an affair of the heart It's an affair of the heart It's an affair of the heart I've been alive forever And I wrote the very first song I put the words and the melodies together I am music and I write the songs I write the songs that make the whole world sing I write the songs of love and special things I write the songs that make the young girls cry I write the songs, I write the songs My home lies deep within you And I've got my own place in your soul Now when I look out through your eyes I'm young again even though I'm very old I write the songs that make the whole world sing I write the songs of love and special things I write the songs that make the young girls cry I write the songs, I write the songs Oh, my music makes you dance And gives you spirit to take a chance And I wrote some rock and roll so you can move Music fills your heart Well, that's a real fine place to start It's from me, it's from you, it's from you, it's from me It's a worldwide symphony I write the songs that make the whole world sing I write the songs of love and special things I write the songs that make the young girls cry I write the songs, I write the songs I write the songs that make the whole world sing I write the songs of love and special things I write the songs that make the young girls cry I write the songs, I write the songs I am music, and I write the songs Ladies take to cowboys like kids take to clowns They both love them without asking why There's those come on looks and laughter But when it's time for leaving town Seems nobody cares enough to cry Everybody loves cowboys and clowns You're everybody's hero for just a little while But when the goodbyes are said And the spotlight goes dead There's no one left who cares to hang around To love the cowboys and clowns Cowboys love candlelight and lacy things on ladies While kids love carousels and funny painted faces But there's no balloons, no sweet perfume When midnight brings you down No one to hold you close when the morning comes around Everybody loves cowboys and clowns You're everybody's hero for just a little while On this edition of Lexington Now, in one accord, Lextran's downtown circulator and new rules for bike lanes. I'm Neal Noah and welcome to Lexington Now for the week of September 28th, 2026. Lexington's second annual In One Accord music festival is coming. Here are the details. I am so happy to be joined by the ever talented Dr. Everett McCorvey as we preview the second annual In One Accord Lexington Sacred Music Festival. The festival will feature a week-long celebration of the music that fills Lexington's churches, our chapels, our sanctuaries, our synagogues, our concert halls, and places of peace. The celebration is set to begin on October 3rd and continue through October 11th. Over 20 sacred music experiences will be open to all and scheduled at religious and non-religious locations alike. This has been a dream of mine for probably around 20 years to have this festival. It's been something that I felt that we had so many wonderful musicians in central Kentucky, in Lexington, we had so many artists of all types, so many creatives, that I felt that we needed some sort of festival to celebrate all of those creatives and people who participate. There were probably over 900 artists who participated in last year's festival and we are so excited that it has come back for a second year and I'm very thankful to the mayor for championing this and for the 250 Legacy Committee. After last year there were a few funds left over from the Legacy, the wonderful 250 celebration that we had in Lexington and so they chose a couple of, I guess, acts or a couple of events from last year's festival to continue this year and the Sacred Music Festival was one of them and we were so excited about that because we felt that it was so successful and multi-generational. This festival is going to bring in all types of creatives and one of the other things that I wanted to do was to expand the meaning of sacred, so a lot of people have a very narrow view of what sacred means, but we are expanding what sacred means because sacred means something different to every person. Sacred doesn't always happen inside of the church walls, sometimes it happens in a park, sometimes it happens at an art museum, sometimes it happens at a library. You just never know where that sacred moment is going to happen and so we want to encompass all that it means sacred. Music Did you know that LexTran has a downtown circulator? Mayor Gorton and Fred Combs talk about how it works. I just hope that a lot of people will ride LexRides. This is a free shuttle and so we caught it right here in the distillery district. And where are we headed next? So we're going to head back into downtown and that is where both routes of LexRide meet up. So we have one route that would come from downtown here to the distillery district and a second that's going to go from downtown to the warehouse. Okay, it really, I think for people who are out and about on Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays, it's really special. It is and we're so thankful for the partnership that we kind of brought together to bring this idea to life. It's been really wonderful I think for not only downtown, but both of these hot spots for life in Lexington. But also good for the community that we all kind of came together and tackled a problem. Yes, I mean Lexington and LexTran. A lot of people don't realize that LexTran is not part of the city government. I've had this conversation with a lot of people who don't realize that. But we always try to partner when we can. Absolutely, even though we're not an official unit of the city government, we do feel very close. We work very closely with many city departments. We provide a very valuable service to the community. And we're always trying to do forward-thinking things, create new partnerships with other agencies. I think it's an exciting time for LexTran and for Lexington. I'm personally very thankful to be a part of it. This is so easy. It sure beats driving around, doesn't it? It sure does. A conversation like this can happen at any time on one of our vehicles. So it's harder to do if we were driving around right now. Now let's see, you can take 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 plus a couple wheelchairs. Yep, and standing room also available. But yeah, this is fully accessible vehicles. All of our vehicles are fully accessible. So we can definitely take a wheelchair too. Happy to have anyone and everyone aboard. So where are we going to land and get off? So we're going to be near the Courthouse Square. Okay, near the Courthouse Square. And then someone at the Courthouse Square, if they wanted to come back out here, they could get on it and ride through downtown and come back eventually. And we do have additional stops along each route. They're marked by special LexRide signs. And you'll see those near our LexTran bus stop signs. All of this information is available on our website. It's www.lextran.com. And just look for LexRide and someone can find all of it. There's maps inside the vehicles of where all the stops are. Oh, that's great. We have real-time arrival and departure information that's available on our website. And through our app, which is the My Stop mobile app. And if anyone needs help, they can call customer service. We're happy to help them. There you go. So it looks like there's a blue line and a green line. And we are riding the blue line. We're on the blue line. So the green line, does it go all the way, where's the eastern end of it? So it's going to go from downtown to the warehouse block, so National Avenue. Okay, National Avenue. So if you have a favorite restaurant or something you want to do in the National Avenue area, you can take the green line. There are some great ones out there. Great restaurants out there. That's great. But this is a way that, if you want to experience more of Lexington in an easier way, I think this really helps you get around town very conveniently. We try to run every 15 minutes, so you don't have to wait very long for a bus to show up if you're at one of our stops. That's easy. Very easy. Very convenient. Do you know, does the ridership increase as the time gets a little bit later on Thursdays and Fridays? It does. We found the biggest, when ridership is the greatest, is when some event is happening, either at the Borough or National Avenue, like a concert or something that everyone's trying to get to, that's when we see our highest levels of ridership. That's great. Well, I think for people who want to go out and have a little fun and don't want to worry about it, they can park away from it, come to a stop, and just, you know, tool around on the bus. You can park downtown and go anywhere. Yeah, that's great. So this is going to run, we start in April, and this is going to conclude on Halloween. So the end of October will be the conclusion of this, so we're kind of booking with Keeneland. Oh, sure. Are you ending before or after Thriller? This will be after. This will be after, yeah. Thank you very much. Keep up the good work. Great ride. Have a good day. All right, you too. New rules for bike lanes when we come back. New rules for bike lanes when we come back. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Lexington Now. A new ordinance has been passed making biking around the city easier. Here's what that means for you. Last year I chaired the Street Safety Task Force with Councilmember Sheehan and we collaborated with our colleagues on council, community advocates, LFUCG staff and LPD to develop actionable steps to improve safety for all modes of transportation in the short term as we begin the year-long rollout of the Complete Streets policies. The result of the task force was a living document, an action plan outlining education, engineering and enforcement initiatives that could be implemented within 12 to 18 months. And here we are today, less than a year later, putting that plan into action with the Bike Lane Ordinance. This ordinance is the product of thoughtful collaboration throughout the year between our council colleagues, Lex Park, LPD, the Department of Law and several local groups. It complements our Complete Streets and Vision Zero efforts by adding a policy that moves the needle, creating safer and more equitable mobility for our neighbors. Cyclists have been telling us for years that bike lanes on busy streets don't work if vehicles are constantly parking in them or blocking them. Those obstructions force cyclists into the main traffic lane at unexpected moments, creating a safety hazard for them and for drivers who must react to them. Starting September 27th, violators will be fined $50 for parking or stopping in a designated bike lane, with some exceptions for emergency vehicles and police vehicles. But this ordinance won't enforce itself. Lex Park and UK Parking Services employees, as well as police officers, can write citations when they see obstructions in bike lanes. Realistically, though, much of the enforcement is likely to be in response to complaints. So if you see violations, please report them. Here's how. If a bike lane is blocked in or around downtown between 9 a.m. and 7 p.m. when Lex Park is patrolling, Monday through Saturday, call Lex Park at 859-231-7275. If it happens on a street through the University of Kentucky campus, you can call UK Police at 859-257-8573. If it's after hours or outside Lex Park's coverage area, call the Lexington Police non-emergency number at 859-258-3600. It's also important to note that this ordinance only applies to Lexington's designated bike lanes. Those are the ones with a white stripe on the side of the street and the image of a cyclist painted on the pavement between the stripe and the curb. Many neighborhood streets have what's called lane-narrowing stripes or lines, but there's not a cyclist insignia painted on the pavement. The ordinance doesn't apply to them. Cyclists may ride in them, but their main purpose is to slow traffic and to make parking on either side of the street safer. This ordinance isn't perfect, and it won't solve all of the conflicts that happen between cyclists and motorists, but the less often cyclists must move out of a blocked bike lane and into traffic, the safer Lexington streets will be. Randy's back with our pets of the week. Hey everyone, welcome to this week's Lexington Fayette County Adoptable Pets from LexTV and the Lexington Humane Society. Hello Neil, we have some wonderful adoptable pets this week from your Lexington Humane Society. Let's see who's first up. Oh, we've got Aerith, red and white in color, a female, approximate age six years old, large mature size, does well with other dogs, does well in apartments, also does well with children. Let's see who else we have, Neil. Oh, we've got Bailey, baby is tricolor, a male, approximate age seven years old, looks like a quarter cali mix, and also does well with other dogs, does well in apartments, and also does well with children. Absolutely adorable. And last we have Neil, Cher, yeah, white and gray in color, a female, looks like a pit bull mix, approximate age two years, does well with other dogs, does well in apartments, also does well with children. Please adopt these adorable adoptable pets this week from the Lexington Humane Society and LexTV. Thanks for watching these adorable and handsome pets available at LexingtonHumaneSociety.org from LexTV and the Lexington Humane Society. This weekend's events are brought to you by Olivia Lesheen Grigsby. Hey there, I'm Olivia, the 12th District Council Aid. Here are some upcoming events this Friday, October 2nd through Sunday, October 4th in Lexington and Fayette County. Please note, events that require registration may sell out or fill up in advance. Be sure to confirm by visiting LexingtonKY.gov slash calendar. On Friday, October 2nd, join us for our first family-friendly freaky flicks of the season at Masterton Station Park. Activities will begin at 6.30 p.m. and seating is first come, first served. Food, drink, and dessert trucks will be available, but please feel free to bring your own picnic setup, including blankets and chairs. The free showing of Hocus Pocus will begin around 7.30 p.m. On Saturday, October 3rd, we have a lot of event options taking place at 10 a.m., First Up, Junior Naturalist at Kelly's Landing. Kids in grades K-5 will learn all about trees through hands-on activities like scavenger hunts, crafts, and more. This event is free, but registration is required. Story Walk will be set up at McConnell Springs Park, where you can view laminated pages of a children's book posted along the trail for you and your family to explore at your own pace. Also at 10 a.m., Street Fest will take over Shropshire Avenue until 1 p.m. Scoot, skate, ride your bike, or just walk freely as you enjoy games, food trucks, live music, and activities while celebrating our streets as shared spaces. You can also spend your morning by joining park staff by lending a hand clearing invasive species at Raven Run Nature Sanctuary. Volunteer activities are best suited for adults and teens ages 16 plus. Tools, equipment, and gloves will be provided. Lastly, on October 4th, join the Environmental Commission at noon and help plant bulbs in the Pollinator Garden at the Kilrush Food Forest. I'm Olivia and that's just some of the things going on this weekend in Lexington and Fayette County. You may need to pre-register for some of these events. For more events and information, be sure to visit lexingtonky.gov and click the calendar tab at the top. Thanks for watching and we'll see you next week. Olivia also has our week's meeting coverage. Hi there, I'm Olivia, the 12th District Council Aide. Here's our current live meeting schedule this week starting October 1st for LexTV. Remember you can watch all of our live meeting coverage on LexTV, Channel 185, and always online at lexingtonky.gov. On Thursday, the 1st of October, watch the Planning Commission Subcommittee meeting at 8.30 a.m. and later that same afternoon, watch the Planning Commission Zoning Subcommittee meeting at 1.30 p.m. That's our current live meeting schedule for LexTV this week. You can watch all of our live meeting coverage on LexTV, Channel 185, or always online at lexingtonky.gov and click LexTV tab at the top. I'm Olivia and we'll see you next time. That's all for now, but as always, you can keep up with us on social media, check out the latest traffic updates on X at LexRex, or catch our live traffic cams on lexingtonky.gov. For all of us at LexTV, I'm Neil Noah and that's it for now. ♪♪ ♪ Even on my favorite table, he can't beat my best. His disciples lead him in, and he just loves the rest. He's got crazy flippin' fingers, never seen him fall. That deaf, dumb, and blind kid sure plays the beam-jim-ball. He's got crazy flippin' fingers, never seen him fall. 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No. Okay, all right. So, and obviously we are not too good at picking the color of wires and all that kind of thing, so let's go talk to the folks that do know what they're talking about, and we're going to be visiting with the Lexington Police Department hazardous devices unit. Hey, we are here with Commander Greyhouse and Officer Kaylee Sizemore with the hazardous devices unit. Thank you all for joining us today. Thanks for having us. You know, we've had Commander Greyhouse on several episodes. He obviously is involved in a lot of things in the police department, but I know one of your true passions, along we always talk technology with you, but I know one of your true passions is hazardous device unit. So, I guess we'll get started. I always like to talk about a little bit of history, so if you can kind of tell us when it started, how it started, how it evolved, and why it started.