# Council Work Session - May 26, 2009 > Auto-transcribed civic record · May 26, 2009 - **Permalink**: https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/meeting/921 - **Source video**: https://lfucg.granicus.com/player/clip/921?view_id=14&redirect=true - **Date**: 2009-05-26 - **Last revised**: May 26, 2009 - **Length**: 16,823 words > ⚠️ **Auto-generated content.** Audio from the official Granicus video was auto-transcribed with OpenAI's open-source Whisper large-v3-turbo model, run locally by The Lexington Times. Structured facts were extracted with GPT-4o; the narrative summary was written by Anthropic Claude. Verbatim wording may contain errors. See [methodology](https://meetings.lexingtonky.news/about/methodology) or [report a correction](mailto:editor@lexingtonky.news). --- ## Meeting Overview The Urban County Council convened on May 26, 2009, with Mayor Newberry presiding over the session. The meeting focused on two primary informational agenda items: a Planning Committee Meeting Update and a Lexington Public Library Budget Report, both of which were presented for council information rather than requiring formal action. During the course of the meeting, the council conducted 14 motions and votes on various matters. No public comments were heard during this session, indicating either no citizens signed up to speak or no public comment period was scheduled for this particular meeting. The meeting served primarily an informational purpose, with council members receiving updates on planning committee activities and the public library's budget status. Both agenda items were categorized as informational, suggesting they were presented to keep council members informed about ongoing municipal operations rather than to seek specific policy decisions or approvals. ## Attendance The meeting on May 26, 2009 had strong attendance from city leadership. **Present:** • Mayor Newberry • CM Stinnett • CM Gorton • CM Blues • CM Beard • CM McChord • CM Feigel • CM Lawless • CM Martin • CM James • CM Henson **Absent:** • CM Lane **Late:** • None Eleven council members and the mayor were present for the meeting, with only CM Lane absent. No members arrived late to the proceedings. ## Votes and Decisions The council conducted 14 votes during the May 26, 2009 meeting, with 13 motions passing and one failing. **Approved Items:** • **Meeting Summary**: CM Stinnett motioned to approve the summary of the 5/12/09 meeting, seconded by CM Gorton. The motion passed unanimously. • **New Business Items**: CM Beard motioned to approve new business items A-X, except V, seconded by CM Blues. The motion passed unanimously. • **Family Care Center Audit**: CM Gorton motioned to adopt the Family Care Center audit report, seconded by CM Beard. The motion passed unanimously. • **Newtown Pike Design Ordinance**: CM Gorton motioned to refer the Newtown Pike Design Ordinance to full Council, seconded by CM Blues. The motion passed unanimously. • **Committee Item Removals**: Two unanimous motions by CM Gorton, seconded by CM Beard, removed the electrical inspectors' fees and the Hisle Park Master Plan from the committee list of items. • **Blue Horse Logo**: CM Gorton motioned to adopt the "Blue Horse" branding as the logo, seconded by CM McChord. The motion passed unanimously. • **Taxicab Special Events**: CM Gorton motioned to refer discussion of allowing a special events permit for a local taxicab company to the Services Committee, seconded by CM Lawless. The motion passed unanimously. • **NDF List**: CM Stinnett motioned to approve the NDF list, seconded by CM McChord. The motion passed unanimously. **Executive Session**: The council unanimously voted to enter closed session pursuant to KRA 61.810 (1)(f) on motion by CM Stinnett, seconded by CM McChord, and later returned to open session on motion by CM Blues, seconded by CM Feigel. • **Arbitration Decision**: CM Stinnett motioned to adopt the arbitration opinion and award regarding a disciplinary matter relating to firefighter Christopher Nead, seconded by CM McChord. The motion passed unanimously. **Failed Motion:** • **Item V Addition**: A motion to add item V to the docket failed on a roll call vote with 4 ayes and 10 nays. The meeting concluded with CM Gorton's motion to adjourn, seconded by CM Myers, passing unanimously. ## Planning Committee Meeting Update Chair CM Gorton provided an informational update on recent Planning Committee activities during the meeting. The update focused on upcoming business that would be coming forward from the Planning Committee. CM Gorton reported that five motions would be advancing from the Planning Committee for consideration. However, the specific details of these motions, their subject matter, or timeline for consideration were not elaborated upon in the available meeting materials. The presentation was informational in nature, serving to keep council members and the public informed about the Planning Committee's recent work and upcoming agenda items. No discussion or debate was recorded regarding this update, and no action was required from the council at this time. *Note: Specific transcript timestamps are not available for this agenda item.* ## Lexington Public Library Budget Report Burgess Carey, Chair of the Board of Trustees for the Lexington Public Library, presented a budget report to the council during the May 26, 2009 meeting. The presentation was attended by several library board members and employees who were present to support the budget discussion. The agenda item was structured as an informational presentation, with Carey serving as the primary speaker representing the library's financial position and budgetary needs. Following the presentation, council members engaged in a question-and-answer session to better understand the library's budget requirements and operations. The meeting provided an opportunity for the library leadership to communicate directly with city council members about their financial planning and resource allocation. The presence of multiple board members and library staff demonstrated the organization's commitment to transparency in their budgetary process and their engagement with municipal oversight. This budget report served as an informational item rather than requiring any formal action from the council, allowing for dialogue between the library administration and elected officials regarding the library's fiscal management and future planning needs. --- ## Decisions - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approval of the summary of 5/12/09 - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approval of new business items A-X, except V - **Motion** — failed (4-10): Adding item V to the docket - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Adopt the Family Care Center audit report - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Refer the Newtown Pike Design Ordinance to full Council - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Remove the electrical inspectors’ fees from the committee list of items - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Remove the Hisle Park Master Plan from the committee list of items - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Adopt the “Blue Horse” branding as the logo - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Refer to the Services Committee the discussion of allowing a special events permit for local taxicab company - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Approve the NDF list - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Go into closed session pursuant to KRA 61.810 (1)(f) - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Go back into open session - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Adopt the arbitration opinion and award with regard to a disciplinary matter relating to firefighter Christopher Nead - **Motion** — passed (0-0): Adjourn work session --- ## Full transcript Motion. Second. Council Member Stinnett has moved approval of the summary. Council Member Gordon has seconded that motion. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Opposed, no. The motion carries. There are no budget amendments, but there are some new business items. Second. I have a motion by Council Member Beard and second by Council Member Ellinger to approve the new business items. Any discussion? Council Member Stinnett. Thank you, Mayor. Just a couple items. One on item S, this request is the authorized catering sales agreement in the amount of $5,000 to benefit the senior intern program. I just want to make sure everyone knows this is not coming from the general fund. This is donated dollars. I know we have a no food policy until the end of the budget year. I don't want anyone to think that they're spending money on food while no one else can, so I just want to point that out. Thank you, Commissioner Hill, for getting us that information. And also on X, do we know what happened with the school board? Did they agree to the Land Bank Authority? They did sign it. I know their meeting was May 21st, which I don't know what happened at that meeting. I didn't know if anybody knows regarding the land bank. Mr. Tate. Yes, sir. It was approved unanimously. They did approve it unanimously. The state approved their end. Pardon? Who else is left to approve besides that? After you all approve it, it goes to the governor. Then it'll go, okay. Then the governor. Okay. Thank you. And then I also want to point out, oftentimes we do road projects here in the city, and we often come back with change orders asking for more money. Well, I'll point out on O, which is the Starshoot Parkway project. I want to thank Bob Barrett and everyone involved in engineering. This project actually came in under budget. So, I mean, that doesn't happen very often. So I get really excited when we save $20,000. It might not be a lot of money in the grand scheme of things, but it did come in under budget or on budget. And kudos go to Bob Barrett and engineering and all those guys that worked on that. So I just want to point out item O. Thank you. Thank you. Any further discussion? Council Member Martin. Thank you, Mayor. Is Commissioner Webb still here? I had a question about the – would it be the release of the sanitary sewer easements? Is that in your department, sir? Item W is the partial leases of easement for sanitary sewer property, 1950 Fort Herod Drive. I was wondering if anybody could enlighten us on what that is. These things go through many departments, actually. As you can see, there's a lot of people that sign off on these type of things. What often happens is that we build new facilities and abandon the existing facilities, and then there's no longer a need for the easement. I believe this one in particular is a pump station that used to sit back in there, and we took that pump station out and converted the gravity flow across Harrodsburg Road over into Rabbit Run. So thus allowed us to abandon the easements and restore full use of the property to the property owner. And what is the, so this will revert back to the property owner? Yeah, typically the easements are in encumbrance on a particular property and if the easements, whatever they may be, utility easements, sanitary, otherwise, if they're no longer needed, the property owner may petition us to be able to release those easements and that way their property is less encumbered than would be otherwise. Do we still have improvements or any type of facilities on these easements or? No, sir. If we would not sign off on it, if we still have facilities there. Just want to make sure we weren't sort of passing the dime to the neighbors as well. So this is – Yeah, that's why it goes through – when we have like streets that get abandoned, we see those, we review it to see if we have existing utilities, and we'll say, no, we can't abandon that right-of-way. We have to maintain an easement. Clearly, it's in our best interest to maintain easements if we have facilities there. So there's nothing really specific for these neighbors to maintain on that. It's just empty ground at that time. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. I had a couple of other. Okay. Council Member Gordon. Thank you, Mayor. Just a following comment to Council Member Stenitz's comment on item X, which is the interlocal agreement to establish the land bank authority. Council Members, this was the issue that was in planning committee, and we ask them to bring it straight to the full council. So it will not be viewed in planning committee. It's coming straight to everybody here. So that's that same issue. Thank you. Council Member James. On that same issue, Mayor, if I can have Mr. Tate come forward. I've got a couple of questions about the interlocal agreement. How are you? A couple of things. I read through this quite extensively because it's very dear to my heart. And I had a couple of ideas for changes, but I wasn't sure at this point, how do we go about making any changes if all three parties have gotten together? What's the process? If we want to revise this, what do we need to do? Dave, you want to come up? There's been conversations between our law department and their law department in terms of what the language is. I think a lot's going to depend upon what you're saying. If they were material, they'd have to be reapproved by the other parties. Okay. They probably are. So I'll just run a couple past you, and then you can let me know if this has been a discussion or not. The first one is the recital D. and I know one of the recommendations out of infill and redevelopment, one of the recommendations out of many of the at least discussion in the small area plans and Affordable Housing Trust Fund has been they are so excited about the land bank with the potential for addressing our affordable housing needs. And so where it says to facilitate the creation of development of housing, and in parentheses including affordable housing, I have an interest based on the market study, the housing market study, which says that we have, you know, 200 percent over our needs when it comes to market rate housing. Can we just have that, say, development of affordable housing? This is largely modeled after the state statute, and I do not think you would want to limit yourself. In other words, you wouldn't want to restrict yourself from what the state statute allows you to do. So I don't know that it would be prudent to further limit what their duties and powers are. I think you all can express a desire to have them focus on those types of properties and make that a priority. Just so you understand, when this is operational, we appoint, you all appoint one of the members, the urban county government member that's going to be on this. And the way the state law reads, there cannot be a transfer of the property without the urban, if it's within Fayette County, which all of these would be, without the Fayette County representative signing off on it. So you all would pretty much act through your representative in making it clear what your desires are with respect to how they're actually going to operate. But I wouldn't recommend in a general document like this that you restrict in any way what their duties and powers are. There may be, even though it may not be the focus, there may be some opportunities from time to time that are not directly affordable housing where it would make sense for them also to be involved in the housing market, for instance. Okay. And if you change that, you would then have to go back and change it again. Okay. And so you're talking about some other type of priority list. Do you know of some other type of citation or something that we would give to this authority that would allow for that to happen? Would that just be in rules or bylaws or what? All this does basically, all you all are approving is the interlocal agreement, which also includes the Articles of Incorporation and the bylaws. The actual guidelines and practices have yet to be developed. And I would assume that what's supposed to happen is you all would be involved in, along with whoever you all appoint as the government's representative on this particular entity, you all would be involved in knowing what those guidelines were and having input into what the guidelines were that are actually adopted. Okay. Okay, stay right there. Another question has to do with areas of exclusion or approval. So say, for instance, the area of the land trust. Would you want to include something here or include something in this other thing you're talking about that would exclude areas where there's a prevailing rule? So take, for instance, Council Member Blues' area of land trust. We wouldn't necessarily want to subject those properties to this. because it should prevail what they're doing there in that Newtown Pike area. I'm not exactly 100% sure what your issue is on that. The idea with this is to empower them to be as broadly acting as possible within the legal parameters of the statute. I suspect as a practical matter they are going to be limited in some of their focuses, but the whole idea right now is just to get them up and running within the state statute parameters. I think all of the operational details are probably likely to come, including how they're going to be staffed and some other issues like that and what their priorities and focuses off the bat would be. But I think that they could certainly work with that group, and I don't think there would be an issue with them at least intentionally trying to get in an area that they were already focusing on. Okay. My point and where I'm going is clarity. So if you're confused about where I'm headed, I'm just headed to this needs to be as clear as possible, even if it's listing by what other means we need to address other priorities. So this is talking it through because you and I haven't sat to discuss this. So that's what this is doing. With that, under miscellaneous number seven, under notices, and it gives the manner in which notices are given to the members of the interlocal authority, can we include something about electronic? Because we've got overnight courier, first class mail, return receipt. Can we set up something to where electronic is also a method? I think this notice provision perhaps is a little different than the one you're potentially envisioning. This is simply among and between the parties legal notice. I understand that. I think as a practical matter, they would probably do that in addition to that anyway. But I'm pretty sure, and I'd have to go back and look, but I'm pretty sure these were directly reflective of what normally takes place under the statute with respect to these types of notices. I would like to make an amendment that electronic be included as a method of notice as well. Would that be something that I would do at this point? Yeah, if you wanted to make a change, you would have to do it. Yeah, it would have to be done at this point. Okay, before first reading. And you all want to include, so your idea would be that in lieu of these other ones, you could do it electronically. Well, it says or for all these other things. But if you, I guess my point is, these are all legally acceptable means of notice. If you added electronically in there, you would not have to necessarily do any of these other ones. Okay, so the or for all of these other things? It means you can choose any of these as the method. Okay, so you could do or electronic? Well, I don't know if you can or not because I've never looked at whether or not you could use electronic services method because this is the first time I've been asked that. Okay. Well, we're aiming for high tech. That's one of the three H's. And I know that we're supposed to be able to transmit in the highest technology available as legislators. So can you check on that? Sure. Thank you. Also would like to know if members can have proxies. So since we're a board of three, it would be a board of three to make a quorum. The answer is normally no to that, and that's by operation of state law. Okay, so there aren't any states. The way the proxy normally works is unless the statute allows you to have a proxy, you're not allowed to have one. That's normally what works. So the statute does not allow the proxy. The statute does not specify that you can use a proxy. So my preliminary opinion would be you'd have an issue if you tried to use a proxy instead of using one of the members. Okay. Do you have the statute with you? The KRS-65? No. Okay. So because it doesn't state it, does that mean you cannot use it? I believe consistent with our prior interpretations of proxy issue, if you are not specifically statutorily empowered to use one, you're not supposed to use one. Okay. And who would be the staff member? Is that something to be determined later? I'm not aware of who the staff member would be so that's impossibly Paula King has talked about it doing the staffing out of her office with others helping as well but the staff would come out of Paula's office community development Okay, thank you. That's all I have. Thank you, Mayor Thank you. Council Member Henson Thank you, Mayor Mayor, I just I wanted to voice my vote for item B, no, on Lex Tran's budget. And I just wanted to explain this that I don't oppose the budget in its entirety, but I do oppose the portion of the budget that has to deal with paratransit or wheels. And I think that this is due to potential hardship that it could cause for individuals with disabilities and senior citizens. Thank you. Thank you very much. Council Member Beard. Thank you, Mayor. David, I was hoping to catch you before you got all the way back there. On the question that Council Member James was discussing concerning electronic mail, I'm not sure electronic mail could suffice instead of a certified mail where you need to return receipt with somebody's signature on it. Well, I haven't looked at that. My understanding was I was going to look at that and see whether there was an issue under this statute and how it was being looked at with whether that would suffice. And I would assume if there was, then we would not make your amendment. Yeah, if you can just let us report back to us before. Thank you. But you're correct. I mean, normally if it's a legal notice, it requires some sort of evidence of receipt. Right. And unfortunately, the statutes have not generally caught up with where technology is. I mean, you do have electronic receipts and stuff that would let you know in some instances whether someone had opened an e-mail or not. But you don't know who was at the other end. Right. It actually did it. Yeah, that's the problem. Okay, I just thought I'd mention that. Thank you. Thank you. I had Council Member Lawless on the screen a moment ago, but that has evaporated for some reason or another. Are you still interested in speaking? Council Member Lawless. I want to also on item V concur with Council Member Henson and another item in that is I don't oppose their budget but there was about $27,000 give or take that they used to use as a very large match. It's 10% of the total for a para-wheels, paratransit bus, and they took that out of their budget to do that, and I would like some information on that. There's a grant that pays 90%, 10% local match. I don't believe anyone is here from Blackstrand to provide that information this afternoon. If you would like, we could invite them to come at the next council meeting to address that or at the next work session. Do you have a preference? Whatever works the best and fastest and with the least amount of time. That's a reasonable enough approach to take. Mr. Green, if you'd follow up with Mr. Burke or others at Lex Tran and ask them to come preferably next week to work session. Councilmember McCord. Thank you, Mayor. I just want to concur with Councilmember Henson and Councilmember Lawless as to why I'll be voting no for the same thing. Again, appreciate what Lex Tran is doing, but have grave concern for folks with special needs and for older folks, and so I'd be voting no on item V. Does any other council member wish to speak to the business items? Council member Martin. I concur on the same issue with regard to item V. Me too. Several others are. All right. Council member Gordon. Gordon. Well, I have a question then. Is there a deadline by which we need to pass Lex Trans budget? I think they're on a fiscal year as we are, so June 30. So in the event that it doesn't pass today, what would you, I mean, I guess that's presuming. I'd say we'll have a more interesting work session next Tuesday. Okay, very good, very good. Sounds great. Thank you. Council Member James. Mayor, I will be voting in favor of moving item V forward and would ask of the council members who do not support moving it forward, if there are solutions and if there are ways that you think that the budget can be revised to help this item move forward, please bring that information forward to Lex Tran or to whomever, to somebody to get to them so that they can make whatever change is necessary to advance it. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Further discussion? Council Member Henson. Thank you, Mayor. The reason I feel like that I have to vote against this is because I have voiced my opinion of this budget numerous times. I've spoken with Rocky Burke, the director of Lex Tran. I've spoken with several of their board members, and I don't feel like that I'm being heard or whatever. the individuals that I care deeply about do not have a voice of their own. And if someone doesn't advocate for them, then who will? So I'm going to stand by it, vote no. And if they're willing to listen to concerns, compromise in some way, then I would be willing to change my vote. But thank you. Thank you. Council Member Lawless. Yes, I became aware of the $23,000, $27,000 in our outside agency oversight, and I just found out this afternoon how that had gotten shifted from LexTran to a request from the Red Cross to the LFUCG. So I apologize, but I just found that out and trying to track down how that was going on. So my resolution, I mean, I want to support this and move it forward, but for us to, for Lex Tran not to continue that match of $27,000 for such an important vehicle and service to our community. So, you know, I don't know what the resolution is to that, but I want to support it. Thank you. Further discussion? Mayor. I was just going to say when Lex Tran gave their presentation, Council Member Henson and I both spoke to them publicly and basically asked them several different questions about their budget regarding this issue and also asked them if there were several different things that they could do. And basically what I saw was that it was just an audit recommendation and they decided that that's what they were going to do and they hadn't even taken anything else into consideration. and like Councilmember Henson I believe that they are hurting the people who need this service the most and didn't even take into consideration that just because it was an audit recommendation we get recommendations from audits all the time and it doesn't mean that it's the best thing that they should be doing and they clearly said in front of all of us that well because the audit said they had to do it that's what they had to do and I just don't believe that they looked at any other alternatives with this. So I'm with Council Member Henson and I think that there wasn't even an alternative that they looked at. So thank you. Council Member Beard. Thank you Mayor. What actually happens to the funds, in fact the public passed a resolution to be taxed themselves and the funds are going to sit in the county clerk's office until we solve this problem? I don't know the answer to that question. If you were actually looking for an answer. I was looking at you, but whoever might want to jump up and take a shot at it is fine with me. I suspect in all candor what would probably happen is if this matter is not advanced to the docket today that there will be a fair degree of discussion between members of the council and Lex Tran board members and staff to figure out what the resolution is to move it forward between now and June 30th. I would hope so. But obviously operations will continue at least through June 30th. And again we are going to have an opportunity to vote twice on this anyway I assume. Even if it is forwarded to June 11th. It would be read twice and voted on after the second reading. So I will support. Thank you. All right. Council Member James. Thank you, Mayor. I am not here to advocate for LexTran necessarily. I'll vote as I see fit. However, I did want to state that there were alternatives. And one of the alternatives that was talked about after that audit, because that audit said they didn't have to provide any paratransit outside of that fixed route, but they decided, the board decided that they would, but at a higher rate. So there were alternatives, and they did choose an alternative that does cost more, and it wasn't, you know, it's still very tough for me to swallow as well. But they do still extend the paratransit outside of that fixed route for a higher cost. I'm sorry. He said that that was the alternative that they offered. I'm sorry to clarify. Council Member Martin. Thank you, Mayor. I guess as an open question, I'm not sure what the answer to this is. The council's function is to ratify the budget as presented. So we don't have the ability to suggest a change at this time. It's our charges to accept or not accept it, and then they come back. Is that accurate? I'll defer to Commissioner Askew on that. I want to take a look at the statute before I respond definitively, but you are required to approve it. So if there are some changes that you would like to see made, then there needs to be some discussion with Lex Tran about that and see if there's something that you all would be agreeable to. So we couldn't today vote to amend their budget. We simply can't approve or disapprove. No, I think you're going to have to go back and ask them to have some discussion with them. That was my guess, but I thought it was worth sort of – Yeah, I think that's correct. I think what the mayor said, they're good until June 30, but you are going to have to approve some budget before June 30 for them. It's my recollection. Well, I just think that this is – Council Member Henson has brought up a very important thing for our handicapped and disadvantaged citizens. And considering the increase in the LexTran budget over the last four or five years, I don't think this is a very large amount of money to be throwing their way. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member Myers. Thank you, Mayor. Council Member Martin brings up a great point. And to that, I'd add to it that the history is that before we passed the referendum as a city that allowed them to get a direct tax, they had to come before this body and ask for money to do certain things. And that was really the only oversight that we had. Now we don't have any oversight except for the passage of this budget. budget and so I'm going to vote against the budget so that we can use this as sort of a stick and a carrot to get them to change. And just like you said, they've got the money to do this. They need to do this. And so this is really the only effective way we have to make them change because once we pass their budget, there is no oversight. Does any other member wish to speak? All right. Given the nature of the debate, I think it would probably make sense for us to vote on item B separately. So if there's no objection by unanimous consent, we'll divide the issue. Let's first vote on all issues, all items of new business other than item B. Those in favor of approving item V excuse me all items other than item V please indicate by saying aye. Opposed no. Those business items are unanimously approved. Now those council members in favor of approving item V and adding it to the docket please indicate by voting aye electronically. Those opposed vote nay electronically. And Madam Clerk, if you would adjust the electronic voting. Thank you. All right. The motion to add item V to the agenda fails by a vote of 5 to 9. That concludes dealing with the items of new business. We're now ready for the presentations. First is from the Planning Committee. Thank you, Mayor. The Planning Committee met May the 12th, and the first item of business was the Family Care Center audit, and all Council members received a copy of this electronically in April. Commissioner Helm gave the background on this issue. The management audit report revealed the need for a more in-depth look, and so a financial audit of the Family Care Center was conducted by Blue and Company, and they were unable to give a clean audit. The conclusion was that the revenue cycle process was in substandard order and was not producing optimum results. One of the questions that was asked was about electronic billing in the clinic, and that has now been contracted out to a billing company. And, Council members, you will remember that the Council approved asking the Commissioner to move forward on discussions with the University of Kentucky to manage the Family Care Center clinic. And they are in discussions at this time and are hopeful that they can come to a mutual agreement so that the University of Kentucky can take over managing this clinic July the 1st. One interesting point which council members will want to know is that attempts have been made to recoup some of the money lost in billings. And to this date of this committee meeting, $170,000 had been lost in billings and was recovered. So they're still working on that issue. And the motion coming out of this is that Council Member Blue's move to adopt the audit report and move this to the full council for approval. So moved. I have a motion by Council Member Gordon and a second by Council Member Beard to adopt the audit report from Blue and Company. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. The second item was a report out from Chris King in planning on the Newtown Pike design ordinance. This is an ordinance which will address the design of the Newtown Pike extension, and public meetings have been held about this, and according to Mr. King, there are no areas of concern, And so this motion coming before the council today is to refer the Newtown Pike design ordinance to the full council for approval and review, review and approval. So moved. I have a motion by Council Member Gorton and a second by Council Member Blues to refer the Newtown Pike design ordinance to the council for consideration and approval. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. The third item, Andrew Grunewald from Engineering gave the Newtown Pike Status Report, which is an ongoing report that we hear regularly. The fourth item was the Liberty Road widening status, which was given by Bob Baird of Engineering. And then as far as further motions to come before the council, a motion by Councilmember McCord to remove the electrical inspector fee from the list of items referred is coming today. Because the council's already dealt with it and we want to take it out of committee. That's the motion. All right. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. The other item which Council has already dealt with and Planning Committee would like to remove is a motion to remove the Heisel Park Property Master Plan from Planning Committee. So moved. Thank you. I guess I need a little clarification about that. Remove it from the Planning Committee and do what with it? It's already been dealt with by the Council, so since the Council put it into Committee, We'd like the council to take it off of our issues in committee. I understand. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. And then, Mayor, last month, Council Member Blues reported out on the previous planning committee meeting. And, Council Members, you might recall there was a need to revise the motion on the Blue Horse. And so the motion, the language was not brought forward as was stated in the committee. So I'm bringing it forward today as a motion by Council Member Lawless to adopt the Blue Horse brand as the visual logo and to join the Convention and Visitors Bureau in using this as the visual logo for the wayfinding signage. So moved. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. And that completes my report. Thank you. Council Member Blues, do you have the corridor committee report today? Yes, I do. Mayor. I'm sorry. On the planning committee summary, it wasn't, I'm sorry, I didn't know the right time to say it, but the wording, third paragraph from the bottom is incorrect. It says CM James said she thought this was awaiting results from infill. It should say this was not awaiting results from infill. So we need that modified. Thank you. And with that, if we can, Rebecca, if we can have someone maybe double-check the minutes. The past few, we've had to do corrections, and I don't know what the process is, but can we just make sure that somebody's double-checking the minutes? Thank you. Thanks, Mayor. I take it that would be a correction to your minutes that you all would take up at your next planning committee meeting as opposed to our addressing the issue now. Yes, thank you. All right, Council Member Blues. Point of order on this item, please. If this is the corridor committee report out, I've not seen anything come forward to us. I didn't know if this was going to be something where it's going to move forward, a motion. I've seen no minutes or anything. So I just want to get clarification. We have a policy that you bring items before us at least 48 hours, I believe, or 72 prior to a Tuesday. Are you talking about the corridors committee report? Council Member Blues, I'll let you address that. I just received a copy of the minutes before the meeting. We'd be happy to defer the report out to the next work session until we can distribute those to all Council Members. Thank you. That would be appreciated. We'll do that. The next item on the agenda then is a report on the ice storm. and I'll ask Pat Duggar to step to the microphone. Mayor, we have the same issue on this presentation as well. I think you emailed everyone this morning, and it would be up to the council to continue on at this point. Again, as I announced a couple of Tuesdays ago, we're going to start abiding by our own rules. I hate to be the bad guy here, but this presentation was just given to us this morning. So unless anyone wants to make a motion to hear it, it really can't be heard today. Does anyone wish to make that motion? All right. We'll postpone that and plan on trying to get it back on as soon as possible. And Mr. Carey, if you want to step forward, we'll take up the library budget. Thank you, Mayor, Vice Mayor, and the Council. Before we get started, I'd like to say I enjoyed seeing most of you all up in Madison last week. I hope everyone got as much out of that trip as I did. Great timing for Bike Week this weekend. Mayor, you made a comment up there when we were discussing how best to become a next city and about how to get more library cards into the hands of potential patrons. I'd like to recognize Councilman Meyer in a joint venture with the Public Library. He's been working on the Gainesway Center, which by its design will expand library use and allow many more of our citizens to obtain used library cards. Thank you, Mr. Meyer. By the way, I paid for my trip myself. I have here with me Kathleen Emhoff, the Director of the Library, Bill Ambrose, former Chair, Tim Sineath, former Dean of the University of Kentucky, College of Library Sciences, and a 30-year member of the Board, Kathy Reynolds, who's our Audit Chair, member of the advisory board, Board of Trustees, I'm sorry, and the Board Management Committee, and our financial officer, Karen King. As you know, we're here to present our proposed budget for fiscal year 2010, which begins in July. The Lexington Public Library Board of Trustees is a fiduciary board. We are responsible not only for ensuring that there are adequate resources available for running the organization, but also that those resources are managed effectively. To offer you a clear picture of how the library board and staff work together to create a strong, growing library system, we put together numbers for a five-year period. During those five years, the Board of Trustees, CEO, and staff work together to set a budget and operate within that budget every single year, all while building a new library, expanding an existing one, and accommodating the large increases in usage. This budget and the library's priorities each year are set within the framework of the Board's 15-year long-range plan, which forms the basis for the library's three-year strategic plan. Each departmental goal and budgetary expense must correspond with a specific piece of the strategic plan before it's approved. To illustrate how this plays out, we'd like to draw your attention to two directives of the Long Range Plan. First, to improve library service to the people of Fayette County. You have in your folder statistics for the past five years of the library. As you can see, usage numbers continue to rise. We've had a 20% increase in circulation, a 66% increase in the number of borrowers, 101% increase in program attendance, 150% increase in the summer reading program participation, and a 2,638% increase in computer use. In this current fiscal year, responding to the needs of people in the community, we continue an emphasis on helping people find jobs during tough economic times through special sections of our website, resume workshops and assistance, interview workshops, and the establishment of a job help center at the Central Library. In the past five years, we have worked diligently to respond similarly to other community needs, such as the establishment of programming to older adults and senior facilities throughout Fayette County, with program attendance rising from 1,450 in the first year to more than 4,000 in the third year of implementation meet the increasing needs of our rapidly expanding senior population. The establishment of the Village Branch Library, the first and only completely bilingual library in Kentucky, to respond to the increasing needs of our Spanish-speaking customers. The second priority I'd like to address is to make the libraries more convenient to use. While our usage continues to rise in all categories, we are always seeking ways to make our facilities easier and more convenient for the people in Fayette County to use. Toward that end, our plans for fiscal year 2010 include the following improvements. The creation of an entrance from the garage directly into the Central Library. The renovation of the Eagle Creek Branch and the implementation of self-check there. And the continuation of self-check implementation at the Central Library and Beaumont Branch. The implementation of self-checkout, which is a major piece of our long-range plan, enables us to increase direct service and assistance to our customers without increasing our salary budget by redirecting staff time to proactive customer service rather than repetitive manual tasks, such as scanning each book checked out by our patrons. In this current fiscal year, we have implemented self-check at three library locations. We have also significantly increased our physical size. The new Northside branch nearly tripled the size of the previous branch, from 10,000 square feet to 28,874 square feet. The village branch expansion more than doubled the size of that location, from 7,000 square feet to 17,455. To accomplish our fiscal year 2010 goals and continue the growth we've seen these past five years, the Library Board has approved a physically sound and conservative budget. You have in front of you both the summary and the detail of this budget. The figures are budgeted at an increase in property tax collected at 2.5%. Historically, over the past several years, that increase has been 4.5%. You'll note that 10.5% of this budget is for materials. To continue to carry out our fiduciary responsibilities to the best of our ability, we are always seeking ways to improve our procedures. On July 1st, we will implement a new accounting system that will enable the library to offer clearer information, create custom reports and provide better tools for tracking various expenditures, including a separate garage report for each month. We have already implemented changes in the procedures for credit card use at the library. I want to assure the Council and the Mayor and the citizens of Lexington that the Board of Trustees of the Lexington Public Library takes its fiduciary responsibilities very seriously. And we feel this is clearly seen in the accuracy of our accounting, the proactive track record we have regarding policies and procedures, and most importantly, in the continuing growth in our entire library system. We'd like now to address any questions that you might have. Thank you. I have Council Member James on the screen here, but I think that's a little stale, so Council Member Lawless. I'm sorry, I have quite a few questions. Council Member Stenet, do you want to go ahead of me? Can we do that? Go right ahead. Council Member Stenet. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for coming today. We appreciate the information that you provided to us. Do you have what the, in terms of operating expenses, what they were in 03 versus what they are today? I know I see on here a couple good increases on different programming, but what are your expenses increases? Can we get that information if you don't have it with you today? Yes, you said 03? Yeah, well, just from whatever point, 04, 05, just the last several years, and we can see the difference in personnel costs and things like that under the expense category. If we can get that information, that would be great. Yes, absolutely. Thank you, sir. Can I expound on that for a moment? Yes, sure. One of the things that I didn't touch in here, but I did last time I was down last month, that I think is critical for this council to understand. When I first became an advisory board member over 10 years ago, the payroll system at the public library was going to choke the 15-year plan that I just discussed. Employees at the public library at that time were given raises automatically every year with very little review and no top-out. That averaged almost 7.5% a year. One of the first things that we did when Ms. Imhoff came on board was implement a program that the board had worked on that established a merit pay system that has several components to it, but it is based on the fact that you're paid and you get a bonus if your performance is superior. There is a cost of living component that's approved annually by the board. And I think Tim Sineath, who designed the plan, could expound more if you had any questions. But I think that's a significant accomplishment over the past 10 years. And I appreciate that, and that's why I just want to look back at the personnel costs. I know you have had those issues as well. I mean, even from last year or this year, you know, it's going up. You know, it says in here 60% of your costs, but, you know, it's going up $269,000, which compared to $8 million. Part of that reason is because we've had older employees who have, frankly, had their retirement and benefits accrued under the older system. They're retiring. There is some attrition. Okay. Very good. Thank you. Council Member Wallace. Thank you. First of all, I wanted to ask, I've got some kind of line item questions and then some overall questions. Payments to the Carnegie Literacy Center. in 2009 it was $65,000 you've reduced it to $45,000 this year can you talk a little bit about that? Yes, and I may ask for some comments from some of the other board members as well as I was not a board member of the Carnegie Center my history with that however is that the Carnegie Center occupies the building owned by the public library The Lexington Public Library supported the Carnegie Center for, I think, 15 years, 15 years, with five-year agreements. And we sent quite a bit of money over there every year. At each five-year increment, they were directed to become self-sufficient at the end of that next five-year term. Three of those terms passed where they had done very little to become self-sufficient in terms of fundraising or a foundation. This last time, or actually the term before this, there was a lot of feeling amongst the Public Library Board to cut off funding completely. Fortunately, Ambassador Farish and the city and the board at the time worked out a deal where the three entities contributed a share, an equal share, for one more term to the Carnegie Center. And with the directive that this time they really, really, really had to become self-sufficient. they didn't do it uh... so we were put this year on the spot with a request by the carnegie that this time they promised no matter what if we gave them the money they'd become self-sufficient uh... it was our understanding that the ambassador was willing and did contribute his share of the money identical to the previous term and we were put in a position that carnegie was coming to our meetings they came three months in a row they didn't have any money and they were looking for us to make a contribution. We had to make the decision, and we did, to agree to a new term of diminishing contributions. And at the end of this term, they're really, really, really, really going to be self-sufficient. I'm sorry. Camera? Commissioner Cole, sorry about that. Does the library board own the building, the Carnegie Center? The Carnegie Center, or does the Lexington Fayette Urban County government own that building? The building was donated to the library by the Carnegie Foundation years ago. It's leased to the city for a dollar, and the city is responsible for the maintenance and upkeep. Okay. But the land belongs to Fayette County? Lexington Public Library. Okay. When it was originally donated, it was to be used for literacy purposes. I'm not sure that that requirement is still there, but that was the reason that originally it was leased back to the city and then Carnegie was allowed to occupy it. Okay, thank you. When I look at your budget and on the first page, fund balance, it's at the end of a period. At the end of FY09, you are assuming a $3,154,970 fund balance, which has increased a couple hundred thousand dollars since the beginning of FY09, or did. And then for FYO 10, you're predicting a $3,224,000 and some change fund balance. Again, that has grown this year. Can you talk some about that fund balance and what it's being used for? The increase, the reason it's gone up. Yeah, and why you carry over $3 million fund balance. Well, I'll address the second question first, and then I'll ask one of the staff members to expound. As I mentioned in my presentation, we operate from a 15-year plan, and then within that, a three-year strategic plan. We and previous boards to this one had made the decision to keep any surplus funds in cash invested in state money market insured funds. We use those funds to build our capital expansion, and we have needs right now that are not being met in the Hamburg corridor specifically. Fortunately, we've been victims of our own success at Village Branch as well, and even at Northside, which is our newest branch. So we do have ongoing capital needs, and this is the primary source for those. But the increase, what's the number one reason why that increase to the overage? Interest. It's primarily interest in Carrie. Okay, on the next page, 51, this is the general fund budget, not your capital fund budget. I'm assuming your operating expenses. Is that correct? Yes. And there you show a $2 million fund balance in operating expenses for FY 2010. So, which increased your fund balance from... Yeah, I'm going to let Karen answer that. You're looking at the general fund budget summary? Yes, ma'am. I don't believe there's a fund balance. I think she's looking at the revenue figures and the total expenses. The total at the bottom. You were looking at the $2,061,000 figure, is that correct? That's expenditures? That's the total operating and maintenance expenditures. Okay. I'm sorry. The, it would assume, just one second. So what is your fund balance for FY09 and 2010 in operating? Because it looks to me like. It still looks to me like it's about $2 million. The general fund budget doesn't necessarily detail the fund balance. It does show that in 2010 that we'll end up with $176,000 growth in the fund balance, and then it summarizes into the overall fund on the front, which gets you to the $3.2 million fund balance that we have. So if you look at page 52, the last line item there is, I think, what you're addressing, the increase of $176,000. Correct. And that, I know one thing, we saved money on our health care and benefits this year. So that may have something to do with that. Also looking at staff education, which is under personnel, which is kind of an odd place for it to be, but $53,000, and then we have travel of $51,000. Can you explain what those items are for and what is the policy on that? Is there a budget for each individual person? There is a budget by department. Is that correct? And there are 84 people in that department, and librarians are required to renew their certifications through continuing education every three years, five years. The other question I had, I noticed there were quite a few library employees, two or three at least, on the Commerce Lexington trip in Madison. Is that part of the continuing education? I think there were probably more library staff there than there were just about anybody else. Actually, that's not true. There were two. Two? And this was the first year they'd attended, and they did it at my suggestion. After the Austin trip last year, I felt we were remiss not being there. Okay, and I'm assuming that the board members that were there were paying out of their pocket? I was the only board member, and I went as a private citizen, and I paid myself. Okay, thank you very much, and thank you for your service. I have some other questions for the library board, but I assume this is not the time to ask them. It depends on the nature of the questions. If it has to do with the budget, now would be the appropriate time. Well, I was just wondering where they were with the city audit, and do they have a – does the city or do you all have some idea about when we will get that audit information? We haven't heard anything since we provided all the information. Okay. I'll submit the other questions. they're more of a process rather than budget. Thank you so much. All right. And thank you, Mr. Carey. Let me go back to a question you raised a few moments ago. On the lease at the Carnegie Center, as I recall, and Commissioner Cole may be able to refresh my memory about this, the terms of the lease there are we lease it for a dollar a year. we have the obligation to maintain it, which is a pretty broadly defined maintenance obligation. And if I recall correctly, that's a 15 or 20 year lease term. Is that correct? 99. 99. Pardon me. I knew it was a long term. And that has been in existence for 15 or 20 years, I guess. I believe it started under Mayor Basler. So that's kind of where we are on that building right now. All right. Council Member Beard, I think. Thank you, Mayor. I'm fairly fuzzy on this, so somebody could correct me, but I thought that if the building went away, the land reverts to Transylvania College. Is that correct? Bill Ambrose is shaking his head no. Yeah, I think that was if it were not used for literary purposes. Mr. Ambrose, if you'd step up to the microphone where we can hear you and folks on GTV3 can see you. About 15, 20 years ago in a friendly lawsuit, all those issues got resolved. And I think it was between Transylvania and the library and the issues had been resolved. So the land is now the libraries. Okay, well, that's probably what I remember from 20 years ago, it seems like just yesterday. Yeah, but that's probably what triggered your thing was in that friendly lawsuit to get all those issues resolved. Okay, thank you, Bill. For purposes of introduction, this is Bill Ambrose, and I know you were and maybe still are on the board. He's former chair. Former board chair. Current board member. Thank you. The question I did want to ask, what part of the Carnegie Center's mission is differing from the library's mission? I think Kathleen could probably best address that, and I'll ask her to step up. But I'd also like to say that that has been an ongoing issue between the Carnegie Center and the library, not to have duplicative programming. In fact, that's part of the agreement that we have with them now. Are you saying there is duplicate or there is not? It would depend on who you asked, but it is part of the agreement that there will not be duplicated programming. This is Kathleen Emhoff. Every quarter they submit a report to us in which they show us exactly the programs that we are paying for, and those are non-duplicative programs. If the Carnegie Center went away, would you have to pick up those programs, or would you be not necessarily bound to do so, but in all probability pushed in that direction? We would need to investigate it, but many of those programs are things that we would consider continuing, yes. At what cost? We pay them $65,000 this year, and it's $45,000. No, I understand, but if you took them over yourself, would you have to add staff? Yes. Yes, we couldn't just do it without staff. Okay, I think I've maybe made my point. Thank you. Council Member Myers. Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to have Rama come down, if he could come down for a second. And I want to thank Mr. Carey for talking about that partnership that we have out at the new building in Gainesway because we are elated that you guys are wanting to partner with us on that. What I was going to do is start out by having Rama kind of go through where we're at on that and what we were looking for from the library system in that partnership, and then I can talk a little bit about what that gets us. Well, I think we have a computer lab there. From the earlier discussions we had with the library, I think, Council Member Myers, you were looking for extending the service where you could use the library card there and the maintenance of the lab would basically operate very similar to the computer labs they have in the library? So what we asked for originally was someone to staff that computer lab, right, and then also access to their software, which would be a fantastic partnership because what that does then is increase, if it were Lex Jam, we'd say ridership. If it's this, we'd say library attendance or access, because in order for someone to use the computer lab, they would have to have a library card to log in, just like you do it in a library. And so one of the things we were wanting to do was get that software package from you guys to install on the 21 computers and then have that person from the library staff the lab so that we can have it open and accessible to people in the community. We all know this has been a community or part of the community that's been sort of underserved, and I'm not pointing out the library and saying the library is underserving them, but it's just been an area the community has been disinvested or divested of, and this new building creates an awesome opportunity to, one, create a situation where in order for citizens to access the computer lab, they must also access the library system. And so that's going to get parents reading with their kids. It's going to get literacy programs going on there more vibrantly. It's going to provide longer access for the computer lab to be open and force citizens to actually access it. And so I guess now that you guys have agreed to do that, I'm wondering when we can solidify that and how we roll that out. Immediately. I mean, that's very doable. Now that I've just said that for her. Let me tell you a little bit about what we are doing there. We do have library staff that go and teach classes there, particularly to senior adults. We also have offered to senior adults who graduate from that program reused computers from the library, and that has been a very successful program. I believe what we still need to get sorted out is the fact that you would actually like us to staff it for you. And that's something that we've had continuing conversations about, and we'd like to continue those conversations. But we haven't been able to work that out at this time. Let me ask you, what do we need to work that out since we're all here today? Well, we ordinarily do not staff things that are a separate agency. Right, but is that a matter of policy? Is that a matter of law? Because we talked about in our meeting that this would be a great satellite because you've got Tate's Creek Library over on Tate's Creek, and you've talked about how full the library or the computer lab is during the school when the college students are there and that this would be a great overflow for that as well. We talked about the problem of security in that building. I don't believe that a single individual could be there by themselves. We would have to also provide security. We have that. There's the difficulty of having open access for the children. We talked about that. So, I mean, I'm sure if we get together in another meeting, we can sort something out. But whether or not our board wants to decide to actually put library staff there, I can't speak for them. Okay. I'll pass that question on to your board chair. And just for a point of clarification, we do have a security guard in the building. Whenever the building is open, we do have a security guard staff in the building. And it would stay that way while you were there. Councilman Meyer, we'll get it worked out. Part of what you're touching on is something that the Board feels very strongly about. And if all of you all have not been yet to the Northside Branch, our newest branch, I'd encourage you to do so. Libraries are evolving. And you can see clearly in the design of the buildings that were built in the 1980s and the early 1990s the differences when you visit the Northside Branch. The information age has changed libraries tremendously. You can see from that statistic I cited earlier about the increase in computer usage, libraries are becoming more community center oriented and more responsible for disseminating all sorts of information and for open access to information than just being books on shelves. And this is a critical mission of our library and we'll continue to evolve in that direction. So I guess I'll meet with you. I'll get with you and we schedule a meeting with Rama to wrap this up. But I thank you for your commitment. and this is definitely your target community. So I appreciate that very much. It's reflected in the usage. It's clearly serving a need. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Martin. Thank you, Mayor. I think I've said before that no good deed goes unpunished. And, again, we're extremely fortunate that individuals, Mr. Carey's caliber, have stepped forward and agreed each and every day to volunteer for organizations like the library or other nonprofits in town. I just want to thank Mr. Carey for his leadership at the library during these last couple months and express my appreciation as a council member for his continued service to the library. It's good to have good people involved in our nonprofit organizations and our affiliated agencies. And we have talked about before on this council that as these things sort of come up, it's important to really sort of keep good people involved. We certainly don't want to discourage folks like Mr. Carey and many, many others who are on nonprofit boards from serving. So I just want to say thanks. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member James. Thank you, Mayor Burgess. It was a pleasure to meet you on the trip and Sarah as well. And I am thankful for the library and their services. And as you know, it's tough economic times, and people have ideas of how we can utilize our tax dollars appropriately. And I just kind of just want to put it out there. You know, the library has a dedicated tax, and I guess at times when there's balances in those accounts or folks for whatever reason don't see the programs that are being utilized, they start wondering, you know, is that amount needed for that particular service? And just answering that question, responding to that, do you feel as if it's time to reduce funding for the library? Well, in the first place, we're funded by the minimum amount required by state law, and that is never said. That hasn't been said by anyone through this whole process. The state law requires for a city of our size to be funded for $0.05 to $0.12 on every dollar of property tax assessment. We get $0.05. I think that's significant. And as Mr. Martin just said, no good deed goes unpunished. We had a board wise enough during the savings and loan crisis of the late 1980s to decide then and there not to invest any money in the stock market. Any of our fund balances were to be put in federally insured money market accounts. As a result, we have some cash. And it looks to the untrained eye like we have a surplus of cash. And of course we want to be good citizens, but our cash, frankly, isn't enough to address our 15-year plan as it stands right now. Land costs have not come down yet in Hamburg. We have a critical need out there. We're overrun at Eagle Creek. We're successful at Northside, and we have no branch from one end of that rapidly growing area of our city to the other. So, you know, certainly we would like to help in any way we can and be responsible citizens, but our task has been to be the best fiduciary managers for the Lexington Public Library, and I think previous boards, far before I was involved, have done an excellent job of that. Okay. One thing I will suggest to you, and I will do this of all the dedicated funding, is make sure that we are all apprised of what your future plans are. Whether it's a five-year, 10-year, 15-, 20-year plan, you've got to make sure that we all know what that is so that we all have our eye on the prize and that we're all part of the, you know, walking towards that step with you. and take some suggestions if given the opportunity. So that way you have, you know, the support. You've got representatives around this horseshoe of the entire city of Lexington. And if we hear that there's planning coming up for ideas for the library for the next 15, 20, or you're looking for locations for new sites, or you're looking for new programming or something like that, come and utilize us and make us part of that, and then maybe that would do away or maybe add to, I don't know, some of the support or input that you would get from constituents of Lexington. Do you all have any plans out at Hamburg? You need to ask Council Member Stenner about that one. I think that's a great suggestion, and I hope that this process will help foster better communications between the Council and the Lexington Public Library. If there's one regret that I have over the last several months, it's been our ability to get the right words out and to make people understand what our mission has been, because unfortunately there's been a lot of rumor and misinformation, and I don't think that serves anyone, particularly the citizens of Lexington, who have every reason to be very proud of our library system very well. And I, too, want to thank you for your service. I've been a member of a nonprofit board before, and it's a tough job, and I really do appreciate you and all the other board members that spend your time. on such a public entity. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Wallace. Again, I would like to say thank you to you and all the many, many volunteers and a lot of tremendously dedicated paid staff at our public library. However, and so these questions aren't meant to in any way diminish that. However, with over $13 million of taxpayers' money, Lexington Fayette County taxpayers' money, going to the library system, yes, we do have a grand system. And a lot of people's 15-year plans have been changed dramatically in the last year. And so I hope that what I'd like to see is how the belt's getting tightened, how checks and balances are being tightened, and ways in which you all are rethinking your 15-year plan with the downturn in our economy. You know, you said it appears to the untrained eye that we have all this cash. Well, in my eye, over $3 billion is a lot of cash in this economy. But thank you very much for your efforts, and I'll be getting with you with some other questions. Thank you. And you bring up a great point because, as I've said last time, this isn't about me. This is not about our director. This isn't about any individual. If it's about anyone, maybe it's about the staff and the patrons of the library. But the library is a fantastic institution due to the outstanding staff that we have there, many of whom have served for decades and have provided consistency through the years, and I'd be remiss if I didn't acknowledge that. Council Member Feigl. Thank you, Mayor, and thank you, Mr. Carey. I also have served on many nonprofit boards, and I know how difficult it is. Had a couple of questions, though, on this report that you've given of library usage. I'm not a librarian, so I just want to make sure that I'm understanding the terminology. the circulation, is that actually just how many users, how many books checked out? That's why it's a lesser percentage of growth than some of the other things. Right. So that's number of books checked out. Okay. And then borrowers are just the number of individual people who have a library card? Yeah. Yes. Okay. So borrowers increased by 66%, but circulation only increased 20%. Only of books, but you can also see the program attendance and computer use has had explosive growth. And that speaks to what I was mentioning to Councilman Myers about the evolution of libraries. Okay. And so program attendance, also that number, 78,000, that indicates individual people that have participated in a program. Yes. Even if it's a duplication of a person, it's just total people. Okay. And same for the summer reading? Yes. Okay. Okay, on the budget summary, I just am trying to confirm, you know, I read articles in the paper and I like to confirm the information that I get. So the parking and copy sales and revenues, is that relative to the parking garage? It is? Yes. Okay. And so that is at a deficit? It is. However, that number does not take into account the free parking we provide for patrons and employees of the library up to three hours every day. Employees park free? Yes. Okay. There is a cost associated with that free parking. Okay. And video sales, what is that? CDs and videos, they're a dollar a day for rentals. Okay, movie rentals. Correct. Okay. All right, thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Council Member Stennett. I just want to put a plug out, as Council Member James said, we need more information for him to help you. How much land do you need in Hamburg? Five acres. You can't settle for three? If you could get us some parking. Smaller branch. If everything's digital now, you may not need a lot of room for books. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Council Member Wallace. I think I didn't get erased after I spoke. Usually people erase me after I speak, but in this case, I slip by. Well, people are coming and going on my way. No one at the library erases you after you speak. Council Member Myers. Thank you, Mayor. I do have one quick question. Actually, I just got a text and asked me to ask this question. With the growing increase in the Hispanic population, Latino population in Lexington, can you speak just a little bit about what you're doing to meet that need? Well, we just opened one of our newest branches and doubled the size of that branch, the village branch. We just took over the other half almost of that shopping center. You want to speak to some programming issues? And before you go, if you could answer the question, now that Operation Reed is not active, were there any federal grant dollars that they were getting that you might be able to write grants to receive? Kathleen, answer. Okay, thank you. To speak first to the Hispanic initiative, we have tried at Village Branch to really emphasize service to people that live in that neighborhood, and there are many Spanish-speaking people that live in that neighborhood, as there are people from Somalia, from Russia, and some of the Eastern European countries, and we're also trying to address that. We also are trying not only at our Village Branch, but at all the branches, to have bilingual staff, because people are living any place in our community that might not have English as their first language. We are teaching computer classes. We are in Spanish, and we're doing that at multiple locations. We're doing that at Northside. We're doing that at Village Branch. And so we are trying various initiatives. We do other programs, such as Prime Time, which is a family program that we translate into Spanish and English. So we've been trying to do a lot of things at all of our branches. Then with Operation Reed, their services were transferred to the BCTC, and any money that they would be eligible has gone there. So we haven't found that there were funds that they were receiving that we would be eligible for. Okay, thank you. That's the last person I show on the list right now, but I'm not totally confident the list is functioning correctly this afternoon. Does anybody else wish to raise questions? All right. Thank you, Mr. Berg. Mr. Carey, appreciate your being here today and bringing the folks with you. Thank you all for your time. I think we're ready now for the council reports. Council Member Gorton. Thank you, Mayor. I had two items. The first is a motion, and this has to do with a special event permit that the local taxicab companies could use to promote the World Equestrian Games. And so today I simply want to move to put into Services Committee a discussion of allowing a special event permit for local taxicab companies for a limited period of time to advertise a special event. So moved. I have a motion by Council Member Gordon, second by Council Member Lawless. Any discussion? All in favor, please vote aye. Aye. Vose no. Motion carries. And then finally, I just wanted to elevate the passing of a wonderful neighborhood advocate, Joanne Bell, who many of us knew. And Joanne and I first became acquainted when she served as a neighborhood representative on the committee to make a recommendation for the Dog Park Master Plan, which was done back in 99-2000. And Joanne was a real beacon of light for neighborhoods and neighborhood issues, as well as many, many other things. And I just wanted to note her passing and how much she meant to our community in a number of ways Thank you councilmember stennett Thank You mayor move approval of the NDF Have a motion by councilmember stennett in a second with councilmember McCord to approve the NDF any discussion all in favor Please say aye Opposed no motion carries a couple other things one. I want to recognize that it being public works week I want to thank all of our folks in public works, whether it be in solid waste or traffic engineering or building inspection on down to planning. Thank everyone for all their work, and hopefully, Councilman, you'll get a chance to participate in some of the activities. I know Sheriff Figo had some opportunities today, and many of you have some other ones. So, again, just want to thank all of our individuals in our public works departments. Also, since public works seems to be on a lot of our minds, and our last councilman, we did a lot of talking about stormwater. I was kind of disappointed this morning not to see many more of my council colleagues at the Water Management Oversight Committee meeting since we've all taken a new interest in stormwater. We meet monthly, and we have since 2001. So, again, I would extend the invitation to all my colleagues for the Water Quality Management meeting to come. That's where we're going to be paying close attention to our sanitary sewers and stormwater fees that we now have here in Fayette County. So, again, every month, usually it's the third Tuesday of every month, I would invite everyone to please come, and we'll also be working on the incentive program over the next several months, and you'll be seeing a lot of other things coming. So just want to put that plug in. And last but not least, speaking of stormwater, we'll be having a design for the public to preview on June 2nd at 630 at Spenserian College. It's the Wickland-Aniston Drive stormwater project that many folks have been waiting decades for. We'll have the preview of the design and the plan for those folks that live along Wickland and Aniston Drive. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member Henson. Thank you, Mayor. I wanted to report Cardinal Valley is participating in the Great American Cleanup on this Saturday, the 30th, beginning at 10 a.m. They're going to meet at Oxford Circle and Fursell's Road. So anyone that would want to join in is more than welcome. And their neighborhood meeting will be next Tuesday, June 2nd, at 7 o'clock at Faith Baptist Church, 125 Garrett Avenue. And I would like to invite the at-large members to come if they're available and a lot of good people over there that I would like for you to meet. And also, I wanted to introduce the Lexington Urban Gleaning Network. John Walker, who's a good friend of mine and president of the Hamilton Park Neighborhood Association, is here. And I hope he won't mind, but I've passed around some literature, and I really wouldn't do the program justice by explaining it, so I wanted John to come up, just take a minute or two to talk about the program, And then information we've passed out has got contact numbers, I believe, if anyone's interested. Thank you. Yeah, what you should have is a letter to each council member with some inserts. You should have something like a green trifold with my son on the front. You should have an urban gleaning guide, which is a four-page guide, a postcard, which looks something like this, and then a planter row for the hungry PDF printout. And the idea behind this is really to do two things. One is to feed the needy. I mean, there's a great need with the economic downturn for the God's Pantry Food Bank and other emergency food banks. And this idea of gleaning is an old biblical one, and it has an advantage also that it builds communities. It gets hopefully neighbors out speaking to neighbors. And in fact, I met one of Peggy's neighbors by this very process of walking around asking if they got fruit trees that I could pick. and that food went to places like the Women's Hope Center, Catholic Action Center, and so on. So what I would like to ask you, if you could, is to pass this information on to either certainly the presidents of your neighborhood associations, any other churches, groups, schools that you have in your district. I have copies of all these inserts in a PDF form that I can send electronically So just ask me for this information and I'll send it to you. And I found today, Kristen Ingwell-Good sent me something called ampleharvest.org, which is a grassroots movement trying to get backyard gardeners to feed America. So there's a lot of things going on in this area, and we need to get something a little more organized than simply me deciding to take my extra half a bag of tomatoes to the Women's Hope Center or something like that. Anybody have any questions? Thank you very much for being with us. Thank you. Anything further, Council Member Henson? Great. Thank you. Council Member Feigl. I'm sorry. I don't know what's going on. All right. I've got Council Member McCord now. That's fine. Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate Council Member Gordon bringing attention to the loss of a very committed citizen who was in the Stonewall neighborhood and who had a very far-reaching impact on our community, Joanne Bell. And certainly her loss is felt, and my sympathies go out as well. And in keeping with Memorial Day this past weekend, I just personally want to thank those who served in our armed forces and serve in our police and fire and to keep us safe over this past Memorial Day. We certainly appreciate those who do a job that keeps all of us safe, and I trust that Memorial Day weekend was good for all of us to remember that. And my thanks also, Mayor, I want to give special thanks over the activities of this weekend. While there were many, I really appreciate Mike Lexington and the job that was done by all of LFUCG staff on that, but specifically Kenzie Gleason and Keith Lovett and Cindy Dietz, who have, I say sometimes, sowing seed in a parking lot, where for years they've been talking about this and doing things to improve and elevate bikes and what we're trying to do in Lexington, and for years having very small results, but all of a sudden starting to see that there's a lot of people out there that want to see more biking opportunities, more opportunities for community that were done at Bike Lexington. And to have almost 1,000 people come out in the middle of a rainstorm and bike through town probably speaks to the desire to see this more often. And so I certainly appreciate those folks. But also for the police who had a fun time with trying to corral 10 miles worth of folks going at different speeds in the middle of the rain, I certainly appreciate those guys and gals that did a great job for us yesterday. And, again, last week, 260 leaders went to Madison, Wisconsin, and saw one of the most bike-friendly cities in America. And over and over and over you kept hearing about how wonderful Madison was, and especially in regards to that. But I'm here to tell you that for a place that has below zero weather for a large part of the year, terrible signage on their biking paths where you can't hardly find your way around, Lexington has a unique opportunity, and I was very heartened to see a lot of our community leaders go and sit with the traffic engineers and the city leaders of Madison to talk about how they had put that system together over the last 20-some years. And I look forward to working with a number of those folks, but especially up here on council, where we can maybe forward some of those ideas in a more rapid fashion and start to see this trend that we know our citizens are wanting. Elbar had done a study three to four weeks ago that has showed that in the 10-county area surrounding Lexington, the Bluegrass area, it is almost ironically off the chart the types of response people are saying they want more of this. They said in other communities where they see this, hey, we want more trails, more parks stat, it's usually around the 5% to 7% mark. And in and around Fayette County, it's 30% and 40% that are saying we want more of this. So I think we have a real opportunity, and I hope that Madison was an eye-opener for folks, because on the last two chamber trips we've gone to somewhere that is brutally cold and then brutally hot with Austin, Texas, and yet they're 12 months. They've got a biking and cycling culture there, and I think that yesterday was indicative at Bike Election and that there is a growing demand for this. So, Mayor, I certainly appreciate all your efforts with regard to bikes from trails to events. Thank you. Thank you. You mentioned both Memorial Day and Bike Lexington, which happened this year to be on the same day. I have asked, just so everybody's aware, that we take another look at rescheduling that so we don't have the conflict between the observance of Memorial Day and the Bike Lexington events. And so hopefully we'll find a way to avoid that issue in the future. Now, Council Member Freigl, I think. Thank you, Mayor. I have two things. First, I'd like to announce the Kenwick Neighborhood Association is going to have their annual bungalow tour on June 7th. And it is from 1 to 6 p.m. And you can buy tickets at 148 Victory, which is a church, and I don't recall the name of the church. But this is an annual event for them, and their neighborhood is extremely unique. There's so many of the older bungalows that have been renovated, and it's just a very, very charming neighborhood. So I hope that you will take an opportunity to attend their bungalow tour. Also, I would like to thank the mayor and the vice mayor and vice mayor, excuse me, Council Member Ellinger and Council Member Gorton for joining me tonight at the Fifth District Neighborhood Association meeting. at Spencerian College on Winchester Road. It begins at 6 o'clock, 6 to 8. And also we'll have three staff members there to speak with us as well, Pat Duggar from Emergency Management, Jerry Hancock from the Parks Department, and Harold Tate from the Downtown Development. And they are going to be there to give short presentations and answer questions from the audience. So if anyone's listening from the 5th District, I'd be happy to have all you there at 6 o'clock tonight. And also I would like to invite all the other council members to attend as well. Thank you very much. Thanks. Council Member Lawless. Thank you. I had several announcements, but Joanne Bell was my professor, my mentor, and a dear friend for many, many years, and I just found out about her passing. She's the first person that ever suggested that I run for a public office, and I respected and loved her dearly. So the one thing I do want to mention is that corpsmen and CSX have agreed to fix the railroad tracks on Walton Avenue near Winchester Road. And because it is going to take all day, they've been asked to wait until after school lets out because of so many of the school buses that use that route. So be aware that that's happening. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Martin. Thank you, Mayor. As a footnote to the Madison trip, and given this is the budget season, I wish I could see more, I guess a greater commitment in the budget to acquiring right-of-way and building trails. I know these are tough budget times, but we are spending money on something. We really need to commit millions of dollars every year to this. I was just blown away by the enormous trail system they had in Madison. So I guess I'm jumping on the Jay McCord train. Trail, that's right. I think the great lesson of Madison is that great bike and pedestrian trails are not just a safety issue or a recreation issue. It is an economic development issue. This is a way to attract and retain the intellectual talent that is necessary to drive a city such as Lexington, which is a university town, into a 21st century economy. We need to make our town as friendly as we can to the kind of folks who are thinking up the things that we're going to be using next year and in 20 years. I believe Lexington is not in the game. We've got about 15 miles of trails. What did Madison have? About 150. And so it is one of those things that if we committed millions of dollars every year for the next 15 years, we will still never catch Madison, I'm guessing. We used to say at the Economic Development Cabinet, if we keep doing things the way we're doing them, we're going to end up where we are. And I think that is what we are going to have as far as our trail system. I do think it's things that folks want. I think it adds quality of life and it will help our economic development as far as retaining intellectual talent. As we've heard in heading to budget negotiations, I guess I like as a council that we sort of try to find a way to do this. I think it's an important thing, and it will change Lexington for the good. I think it will really make a visible and public change that folks can use, that folks can enjoy, and that will help our economy. Thank you, Mayor. Thanks. Council Member James. Thank you, Mayor. I just had a couple of announcements. This week, the Commission for Citizens with Disabilities, we typically meet at the library. We're not meeting at the library. This week we're meeting at the Lexington Art League. That's at 209 Castlewood Drive. It's a big building that you'll see. There's some art, some sculptures out its front door. We're going to meet there. There's an art exhibit that features some art by citizens with disabilities and other types of illnesses. So we're excited to be surrounded by beautiful art and talk about the Commission for Citizens with Disabilities and what's going on there. So I just wanted to let everybody know that that change of venue, it's the Commission for Citizens with Disabilities at 9 a.m. on Wednesday, May 27th at the Lexington Art League. Just a change of location for this one meeting. Also, it's not on our schedule of meetings, but on Thursday, the 28th, we will have our Neighborhood Development Bond Fund meeting. It starts at 1 o'clock, fifth floor. It should be wrapping up many of our projects going on, and we'll get an update from all of those. Thanks, Mayor. Thank you. Does any other council member wish to report? All right. I've got just a couple of things. I'm going to ask Commissioner Askew to give us just a real quick update on the LexTran issue that we talked about a moment ago, And then I'd like for Commissioner Bill O'Mara to step up and give us a quick financial update. Mayor, thank you. I did not, as I indicated, have the statute in front of me earlier when Council Member Martin raised a question about the Lax Tran budget. But I want to read something to you. You all can amend that budget. But let me read it to you. Such annual budget may be approved or disapproved by public body or may be caused by such public body to be revised, amended, or otherwise altered in the sound discretion of the public body, provided, however, that no disbursement of any funds within any mass transit trust fund shall be made until such budget, annual budget, shall in its final form be approved by the governing body. So you do have an opportunity to amend that budget and approve it, but it needs to be done by June 30. I just wanted to make everybody aware of that additional piece of information in the aftermath of our conversation earlier. Any questions? Council Member Martin. Thank you, Mayor. I guess I was going to ask Council Member Henson whether she wants to make a motion to amend the Lex Tran budget or you want to hold off until a future meeting. No, sir. I would rather, in my opinion, I think it would be best if Lex Tran, you know, if they want to meet with us and then amend it with our recommendations or whatever. But I don't think, at this point, I don't think it's necessary for us to amend their budget. Mayor, we are going to run into a time crunch. So whatever proposals we want to make to LexTran, we need to be going ahead and doing that. So I don't know whether we want to have a committee meet with some folks from LexTran or how that needs to be done. Council Member Gord. Well, my question is simply, someone I trust today has already told them we've not approved their budget for moving forward, right? Has someone already done that? I don't know about that. So they will ask why, and they will get the message. So, I mean, would they not automatically bring us back something? If they know what you would like to see. I think, yeah, if it's what Council Member Henson mentioned, and that's the only issue with it, then I think they need to put something together. If there's some other issues, though, we need to outline what those are so they can comment on those. Council Member Beard. Do we need a committee appointed or something? We're not going to negotiate 15 people, negotiate with them. So we need to develop a smaller group, and I would probably suggest Council Member Henson being one of them. But I would be glad to serve and maybe somebody else. Would anyone else care to serve with Council Member Beard and Henson? All right. That being the case, why don't the two of you convey to Mr. Burke and others with Lexstrand your sense of the council, and hopefully when they come next week they'll be in a position to put a definitive proposal on our table, which would then get us back on track from a time standpoint. And hopefully we'll have a tiebreaker from somebody in case we don't agree. All right. Thank you. If there's nothing further on the LexTran issue, Mr. O'Meara, if you would come up and just give us a quick rundown on where we stand financially. I know typically this is a presentation that's made at the Budget and Finance Committee meeting, but you don't have one of those going because of the budget process. And I wanted to just give you a little bit of an update. Thank you, Mayor. We have the new format of April report, and so I wanted to pass that out to you all. But just to give you an overview or comments, we touched a little bit on it when we talked about the revenue portion of our budget. But April results are in and they're closed. Year-to-date revenues are flat with the same period of last year. That's not necessarily good news. The month of April is actually $3.4 million less this year than the same month of last year. and that is a million dollars less in the withholdings category and a little over a million dollars less in the net profit category, another quarter of a million dollars in the insurance category. So the message is that the economic uncertainty has finally, the winds have finally start to blow in Lexington, and we now need to see if it is low pay or slow pay. We're looking at the major revenue categories by week, and the first week of May showed that collections were higher than the first seven days of May, but then by the 14th of May they were flat again, which reinforces my observation that people are still paying us, but they're paying us at a later time than they did in the past. So if something is due to be postmarked on the 30th, they're making sure it's postmarked on the 30th, not received in our office and worked by the 30th. However, you have to work all that mail to find out if you truly have lower receipts than the same time last year. I'm hoping that the slow pay is more of a description on the withholding category. I do feel that we are definitely seeing a reduction in collections and net profit. We expected that, and that's partly reflected in the 2010 budget. So that's the sad news. There is some good news. The personnel category is 2.8 million less year-to-date April of 2009 in the same 10-month period in last year, 2008, and an additional 2.5 million less year-to-date in the operating accounts this year, April year-to-date, than April of last year. So I guess from our perspective, the controlling of cost is key because we don't know how elastic the revenue will be in the last part of the year. So this was discussed at Commissioner's meeting this morning, and we sent out an email asking, well, first we configured our accounting system for all purchase orders to go through the Commissioner for approval from starting tomorrow until the end of the year, trying to make sure that we are very wise in our expenditures throughout the year, and we're asking that the expenditures be limited to emergency expenditures or costs required for the day-to-day operations of the safety of citizens, employees of our facilities. We have to have gasoline. We have to feed children on the summer break, but we don't have to necessarily buy all the office supplies or various other discretionary expenses, And so we're wanting to be judicious for the rest of the five, six weeks left to control those costs. We want to have a fund balance at the end of the year, and we want it to be as healthy as possible. That's obviously a very top-line sort of review of the financial situation, but we thought it would be appropriate for everybody to be made aware of that in light of the circumstances. And if anybody's got questions for Mr. O'Meara, Vice Mayor Gray. Bill, can you give us those numbers for payroll and for net profits as a percentage of the total, as a percentage, well actually last year, this year, and then what's the decline as a percentage of the total receipts to date? In the withholding category, year-to-date of this year, we've collected $119,956,000. That compares to $120,101,000 year-to-date last year. So we're 0.12% less year-to-date in withholdings than the same period of last year. And in April, it was how much? In April itself, we collected $6,974,000 compared to April of 2008 of $7,978,000. So for the month of April, we collected $1,004,000 less than the same period of last year. So April was about 20 percent, not quite 20 percent less than last year. And Vice Mayor, this schedule that I'm reading from was part of that handout from the presentation. Okay. So year-to-date, we're $119.9 million. $120 million last year. In April alone, in withholdings, in payroll, it was $1 million. So the million that were off, in some sense, is all in April. But it's actually occurred in March and April. So those months were significant declines. Yes, sir. All right. What about the net profits tax? Net profit year-to-date for the 10 months, we're at $27,054,000, and that compares with last year year-to-date for the same period of $26,793,000. And so we're 0.97% year-to-date ahead of schedule. But I would remind you that we were trending $2 million ahead of last year at the end of December. So the six-month ending December of 2008 versus the six-month ending December of 2007, we had a $2 million favorable variance. That's now eroded to $260,000. And again, numbers for April? April, we collected $10,890,000, and that compares to last year for the month of April of $11,945,000. So we collected $1,55,000 less this April versus the same period last year. So April alone, just in terms of in absolute dollars, April is a very big month for the year, right? Yes, sir. $10 million out of $27 million? Yes, sir. In April alone? There are more people that are calendar filers than any other. Thank you. Anything further? Council Member Gordon did want to know when that particular schedule was distributed at what meeting? It was at the Cal meeting where the council, I made a presentation on the 2010 revenue budget. And it was part of the handout. It was the time when we had all of the, I was challenged with not having copies because I tried to make them color and we couldn't get the color copier, and you all stood here, and we waited and waited. So I spoke from the handouts instead of having them to show that. So that was distributed afterwards, that afternoon. So everything you said today we got before. For these four major categories in revenue? Yes, ma'am. What is new is we finally closed the entire financial books. So this is total revenue and expenses through April. Let me tell you what I suspect all of you already appreciate, and that is this is a very difficult time to be doing the finance job at Urban County Government, and Bill O'Mara has done it in a superb fashion. And I'm very appreciative of your efforts, and I hope you all are feeling the same positive feeling I have about the quality of the information we're getting, and I really appreciate it. Thank you. All right, that's all I have. It takes us down to public comment on issues that are not on the agenda. Does anyone wish to address the council? Seeing none, Council Member Stenet. Thank you, Mayor. I move that we go into closed session pursuant to KRS 61.8101F for a discussion that may lead to the discipline or dismissal of one or more employees. So moved. You've heard the motion. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Who voted in opposition for the record? Okay. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Are we ready? Okay. I move to place on the docket for Thursday, June 11, 2009, council meeting, a resolution adopting the arbitration opinion and award with regard to a disciplinary matter relating to firefighter Christopher Need. So move. I have a motion by Councilmember Stennett, a second by Councilmember McCoy that we add that item to the June 11 Council meeting docket. Any discussion? All in favor please say aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Is there any further business? Do I hear a motion? We adjourn. I have adjourned. Councilmember Gorton has moved. We adjourn. Councilmember Myers has seconded the motion. All in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Thank you.